Kyron Horman Missing: New Years Eve Settlement Ends Horman Marriage
Portland, OR- In a surprise court hearing, Judge Henry Kantor signed off on the agreement between Kaine Horman and Terri Moulton Horman to end their marriage this afternoon.
Details of the agreement have not been released publicly, but according to KGW, a financial settlement to include child support and a lump payment to Terri Horman has been reached.
In what can only be described as a bitter family court feud- the divorce matter was last in court on December 16th to decide if the Horman landscaper, Rodolfo Sanchez Estrada -who alleges Terri Horman tried to hire him to murder Kaine Horman at a lunch meeting – would testify.
Judge Kantor has not yet filed an order from that hearing but Attorneys for Terri Horman were granted a continuance from the pending temporary custody motion scheduled for December 19th and 20th.
BOC Associate Editor Tarin Kenley contributed to this report.
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What would you ask the DA
I think I would ask if he thinks Kyron is still in Oregon
interesting erose.
http://www.cleanupclackastan.us/clackastan-the-bad-cops-list/
my impression is there is also, given the sentences, a systemic problem with the County judges, several of whom are probably on the take. Would be a good project for an O reporter to evaluate the Clackamus bench for corruption by looking at each judge’s “unusually light” sentences for patterns.
Second, nothing will change unless there is a Federal civil rights case against the Sheriff Dept, citing all of this evidence, and once founded, the Dept put under Fed receivership and monitering to impacts hires, fires, standards, & accountability. Given how many DV cases there are, and how many women captive in jail & on home detention were abused, imo Amanda Marshall could’ve been interested in such a case, but not the current old boy crew at local DOJ.
Rose says:
January 5, 2016 at 12:58 am
I suspect the advocacy de jour by Admin and defacto mcso & Desiree is to try her for a felony, child abduction, and plea bargain with estimable Houze to learn where kyron is to give the family closure and garner evudence against the
the more culpable & assured murdered, SZ.
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I agree
I don’t understand if its so important to them to find out what happened to Kyron then why don’t they just give Terri immunity from what ever it is she can’t talk about(I think it may have to do with steroids) and get the answers they think she has. Terri is probably never going to be prosecuted for anything anyway so why not at least get some closure.
@ Malty says:
January 5, 2016 at 4:32 am
What would you ask the DA
I think I would ask if he thinks Kyron is still in Oregon
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I would ask:
Who are the ‘non-suspects’ that you have cleared, and why (what evidence) clears them?
We know he has refused to officially clear DDS because “she was never a suspect”, even tho the flyer clearly shows she was… I want to know who ALL of the ‘non-suspects’ are, and what evidence clears them. (Including if the bios are 100% cleared).
Just to confirm, Those were Rees’s comments directly, not Underhills.
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@ erose says:
January 5, 2016 at 3:52 am
Not only was Kyron alone, but he must have been disappointed that his mother was supposed to come up, but then cancelled.
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I have never believed there was any truth to that ‘expected’ attendance by the southern folks for the Science Fair. Why start THAT time when DY had only been to Kyron’s school on the first day of kindergarten? Just another one of her dramatic lies to garner sympathy in the media, IMO
I am not sure where the rumor started that DY was ever coming, but my intel would confirm that to be false.
B
http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/12/31/kyron-horman-missing-new-years-eve-settlement-ends-horman-marriage/comment-page-186/
erose says:
March 16, 2015 at 12:50 am
About nailing down the ID of SZ and the LE request about the SF list, I wonder which question LE wanted answered, but had to pose both to remain un-bias;
someone on the list that wasn’t there, or
someone not on the list that was there.
The only way a person could vouch for someone not being at the SF, IOW proving a negative is to know the exact location on that person for the entire duration of the SF. What would it prove in relationship to a missing child to have a name on a list, claiming a person was at the location where a child went missing, but the person was actually somewhere else?
So the real question has to be who was there that wasn’t on the list. Now that has relevance. It also acknowledges a suspect other than or in addition to TH.
Agreed.
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erose says:
March 16, 2015 at 1:33 am
Is it possible that someone’s name was on the SF list who was not there, but someone else who was there used that person’s identity, thus making both questions valid?
*******
erose, you made me realize something. I think maybe this was a case of mistaken identity. That would explain WHY E Matthews let Kyron go out the door with someone. Perhaps to E Matthews, on a quick glance, she thought it was so and so, but it turns out it wasn’t so and so after all. If this were the case, it would explain firstly, why EM’s interview wouldn’t have raised an eyebrow until so and so was interviewed and it was found it wasn’t him that Kyron left with, as he, so and so, never left and could be alibied at the time of Kyron’s departure. It also would explain LE not releasing an identity, if in fact the identity points to someone who was working, or still works at the school. So here’s the deal, if in fact this was a case of EM mistaking SZ for someone she knew, then who would that be? Because whomever he is, it means he looks just like SZ, even though he is not.
This would explain the weird wording in the task force list too, as you noted in your post above. If this were the case, then the question is, did SZ know he looked like so and so? What are the chances? Slim. Or did someone hire an SZ, who just happened to look just like so and so? Talk about pre-planning.
I know this sounds strange but I guess it’s possible and IIRC Blink’s witness(s) mentioned something like, *at first I thought it was*.
Has everyone seen a photo of every male teacher that was working there? Does SZ look like one of them? Just a new thought.
just to clarify- the “at first I thought it was” was in reference to another male child, not SZ.
B
Stumbled on this, weird as heck. Kristian Scott Horman’s photobucket, I guess.
http://photobucket.com/images/kristian%20scott%20horman
Lots of pictures of Terri, Kyron etc.
But what really got my attention was a photo of someone who looks just like a young Kaine Horman and under the title it says:
“Scott my little brother”
Remember the photo we had floating around of the young Horman family, is there another Mengel son (was that Kaine’s last name? I’m forgetting) who went with his Dad, who just happens to look just like Kaine? Also, looking like Kaine is a photo of someone titled “Kristian sophomore 2013″ on one of the earlier pages. Very strange.
I added to that post before I hit submit, Page 9 is where that photo is.
@cd. re immunity. I think, in practice,
a DA would prefer both bios’ concurrance,
& hell would freeze over first.
also there’s no point in a DA giving Terri immunity for anything of any kind if
they have realized she has no value-added info shedding light on the abduction
@Truth
I went to page 105
A strange bunch of pics I give up as I can’t figure out who is who
Thanks
The following quoted comment was posted on a FB page (link below). It refers to a photo that was posted with it. The photo prompted the page owner to make these comments (below, with link if you have FB to see it):
“I see some web blogs, message boards, etc.. doing a lot of speculating on this case. Well, Someone sent this to the page in message. They are e-mail addresses Terri Moulton Horman/Ecker/Tarver/Claire Sullivan used pre Kyron abduction. More than 3 people have confirmed to this page she used them to post and participate in sexual related things on the dark web. Is it a stretch to say maybe “Lewd Conduct” met a pedophile online who was willing to help her do whatever happened to Kyron on June 4th? I don’t think so. Previously this page supported innocent until proven guilty and it still does! This is speculation just as most crime blogs do. I also want to add that this page has received undeniable evidence of deception regarding Terri/Claire. She brings the suspicion on herself and she is not a nice person.
Lets speculate. What are your thoughts?
Also if you or someone you know had conversations with these e-mails contact LE.”
The link: https://www.facebook.com/The-Kyron-Horman-Case-Turning-of-The-Tide-1428477140699516/?fref=ts
For those not on FB, the photo copied that accompanies the comments above is of a list (3 columns, 17 visible addresses, 2 appearing to be cut off due to limit of photo size) of email addresses claimed to have been used by TMH. No proof for public to view that TMH actually used them — only 3rd party claims about her alleged use of the emails on the “dark web.” Since anyone can create a series of email address names using another person’s name, the existence of the email addresses along doesn’t tell me much.
What is most interesting to me about this is that the FB page posting this information was created with the initial message that there was every reason to believe that TMH might not be the guilty party. The page has stayed the course with that idea, but, I sense re-direction occurring. Someone has been sending the page owner some information to press for the “Terri did it” point of view.
Using FB you can see the photo on the email list:
https://www.facebook.com/1428477140699516/photos/a.1428496690697561.1073741827.1428477140699516/1716510511896176/?type=3&theater
And just for the hell of it, I copied the pic to my own laptop. It’s interesting — I don’t see any of this information as top secret, since the page on FB I lift it from can be viewed by millions.
I’m as usual suspicious if someone claims to have some sort of damning information, but does not show that information to anyone. I can write “people sent me proof that TMH eats snakes,” and I haven’t proved a damned thing to anybody by making such a statement.
I’m so “put up or shut up” on the case right now.
Wow, so if EM thought the child was someone else, then the man she okay-ed his departure with must have been related to or sanctioned by the school or parents to be with that child.
T. Ruth says:
January 5, 2016 at 7:26 pm
snip>
just to clarify- the “at first I thought it was” was in reference to another male child, not SZ.
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Not her quote, that was a witness and i will say from the rear of face down I could not tell the children apart.
B
captioned:
kristian
this is my man i love him very f***ing much!!!
- See more at: http://media.photobucket.com/user/MacAttack_161/media/kristian/052810141310.jpg.html?filtersterm=kristian%20scott%20horman&filtersprimary=images&sort=1&o=66#sthash.GVpOBEM2.dpuf
Anyone recognize where this photo was taken. It caught my attention because of the John Deere Tractor plaque on the wall.
http://media.photobucket.com/user/Caylee_Is_Missing/media/Kyron%20Horman/28560_1451097918487_1264414625_1277040_6217724_n-1.jpg.html?filtersterm=kristian%20scott%20horman&filtersprimary=images&sort=1&o=14
@ Blink “I am not sure where the rumor started that DY was ever coming, but my intel would confirm that to be false.
B”
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IT came from DY herself, if I am not mistaken… in one of her press cameos, tho I am not sure which one.
@TRuth. I Do not understand FB, but if someone, say older brother Kelly or Kaine H sent Kristian a young picture of himself, FB to FB, does that picture’s tag or label (brother Scott) travel with it? Scott is Kristian’s middle name, and iirc, he goes by it. Younger brother Christopher’s middle is Neil. The Soph 13 Kristian could be Kelly’s son.
@Truth
http://www.examiner.com/article/kyron-horman-update-details-emerge-about-kyron-s-uncle-charged-child-molestation-cases
Bad. Link sorry
just to clarify- the “at first I thought it was” was in reference to another male child, not SZ.
B
Thanks for that update. Though I still wonder about even more mistaken identity. IOW, still trying to figure out why no composite sketch was ever released, let alone mention of any *unidentified* man.
OT
posted for the comment by R Ellmyer, Portland, and its followup info, alluding Art Balizan’s follow on as OR FBI Spec Agent in Charge is LDS.
http://videos.oregonlive.com/oregonian/2016/01/harney_sheriff_explains_why_he.html#incart_most_shared-news
which seems true
https://m.fbi.gov/#https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/gregory-t.-bretzing-named-special-agent-in-charge-of-portland-division
OT no surprise that both Sean Cruz & R Ellmyer comment here
http://www.wweek.com/2016/01/06/all-hat-no-cattle-three-things-to-know-about-the-militants-standoff-in-southeast-oregon/
I’d wondered why a cordon (seige) had not been set up to prevent food & supplies in, rather
its being treated like a long term party. decades in Salt Lake City,
including college, maybe affect the new FBI Field Office Director’s perspective.
So, no point Blink in turning over Kyron’s case to OR FBI Field Office.
No more experience there with a SZ than MCSO & Sheriff have, at least not in Breitzing.
Would have to be a specialized Hdqtrs predator unit.
Makes you wonder about that FBI retiree who is niw “on the case” per mcso and da,
who served on a Local Portland CART team. Probably has no experience in this type
sexual pedophile predator either, probably family abduction experienced.
OT
http://m.deseretnews.com/article/700090887/Invisible-FBI-agent-unveiled-Brian-David-Mitchell.html?pg=all
my kind of bureaucrat.
He joined the FBI 2 years after Breitzing.
imo he should have had that Oregon Field Office Dir’s job.
But, alas, he was never near the top of the Salt Lake City McTighe’s
shop, but rather a pariah for solving the Smart case.
Now in figurative exike in sub suboffice Eugene. This is the
man to put in charge of investigating the Horman abduction, imo, move & situate
him in the Portland field office. But since he embarrassed fbi Salt Lake City
office, Breitzing’s home base, fat chance.
If I were Desiree, I’d be on a neverending phone call to Wyden & Comey & fennerty, getting him
transferred to Portland to take over management of kyron’s case (expecting him to work
with hdqtrs predator unit).
more Mick Fennerty casework leadership in Eugene:
“…case uncovered more than 100 Eugene area women and children working as prostitutes, using online commercial sex ads…”
http://www.genderberg.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=5045
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Rees quoted cheek by jowl with Fennerty’s case success
http://www.dailyemerald.com/2012/05/22/saldana-human-trafficking-isnt-just-a-third-world-problem/
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“Agent Mick Fennerty who bypassed agency channels in order to get the needed pictures to the Washington FBI office so”
agency channels in this case means Salt Lake City supervisors
http://criminaljusticeschoolinfo.com/legal-justice-news/2011/05/fbi-helps-elizabeth-smart-find-closure/
@Truth I looked at about 35 more of these pics and find them disturbing on page 74 the pic of Kyron’s uncle is a bit much
Are these people family or friends of a man over 32 Very odd
I did not understand KSH did this crime in 2009 and was free until June 2010
Links on him are not working for me
OT. Fennerty’s been distracted since 2012 & apparently has to stay in Eugene (children).
https://casetext.com/case/fennerty-v-dept-of-the-army
Guess he’s had his own sweer encounter in Lane Cty family court.
He divorces her.
She remarries.
He checks the guy out.
A custody dispute arises.
Manipulative (imo) stepdad
goes to an attorney in his Federal job (Corps)
who begins to act outside of her job role &
litigate as his private attorney. She calls FBI
& local DOJ offices to file formal complaints against
Fennerty. Due to custody quarrels, imo he’s in a
career-ending deadend job in Eugene with a
malicious ex. (I call her that as she went after his job.)
that’s “sweet” encounter with a Lane Cty judge.
Fennerty apparently put the ex he divorced thru law school. to become a
divorce/custody litigator. Odd that she delegates to new husband’s federal
worksite to do her own side litigation for her, unless Corp atty Jennifer R and
she were law school student pals. Anyway, he seems the best inState resource
for Kyron case supervision imo.
http://www.avvo.com/attorneys/97401-or-erin-fennerty-1771000.html
OT. I get curious about people, Fennerty case. J Richman was newly arrived in her job and at a distance
(Portland) from the Fennerty-Eric Petersons in Eugene when she inserted herself as a
Federal employee into the divorced parties’ custody dispute by reporting him to his employer
and the DOJ: http://usaceportland.armylive.dodlive.mil/index.php/2013/12/portland-district-people-jennifer-richman-deputy-district-counsel/ Imo, if employee Peterson had safety concerns, she should have told him to pick up
the phone down there in Eugene and call his Sheriff, tell his knowledgeable lawyer wife to get an RO, and tell him to hire a lawyer. Looks like the people of Portland have quite the local Corp of Eng Counsel. After what Fennerty did for
smart and to fight pandemic sex trafficking in Eugene, he’s been illused by a govt employee who knew nothing about his personal life. Richman could have jeopardized a while string of sex trafficking cases by her “reports” discrediting him.
http://katu.com/news/local/kyron-hormans-stepmother-terri-horman-moved-to-california
PORTLAND, Ore. — Terri Horman, the stepmother of missing Portland boy Kyron Horman, has left Oregon and moved to California.
Kyron was last seen June 4, 2010 at Skyline Elementary School in Northwest Portland. The 7-year-old was at a pre-class science fair, where he was photographed, but then disappeared.
Terri Horman was the last person to see Kyron that day.
According to documents obtained by KATU, Terri Horman relocated to Sacramento.
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This is not news, doesn’t have a staff name attached – why would they think anyone needed to know this? Who told them/gave them documents? I doubt any reporters are bothering to check on her on their own – if they were that interested, they’d know she wasn’t the last person to see him.
Seriously- bitter ass local media with no play in Making of a Murderer. #Getoffyourass #checkprotectionorders
Sigh.
B
http://www.kgw.com/news/local/kyron-horman/stepmother-of-missing-portland-boy-kyron-horman-moves-out-of-oregon/11963007
another version
The CBS affiliate in Portland KOIN channel 6 just announced on a news break that the have found Terri Horman and that when the news is on the will tell everyone where Terri is living.
Because it is news where a private citizen is living whose address is protected legally…
B
Our CBS channel 6 news just announced that Terri Horman registered 2 vehicles in Scramento California along with the report that even though Terri is not even a person of interest in the Kyron Horman case that her own lawyer has said that she is the prime suspect in the case.
These guys KGW channel 8 have Terris address and even tried calling her
http://www.kgw.com/news/local/kyron-horman/stepmother-of-missing-portland-boy-kyron-horman-moves-out-of-oregon/11963007
About Terri
http://www.kgw.com/news/local/kyron-horman/stepmother-of-missing-portland-boy-kyron-horman-moves-out-of-oregon/11963007
Well, well. both koin & kgw get her addy via CA DL data on the same day?
har de har har.
Someone with access to CA DL database (imo LE), AND motive after the holidays, having
had a family break/ repast, gave both koin and kgw the info simultaneously, hoping one low life reporter (wasn’r kgw Desiree’s bestie Kyle?) would bite.
FBI needs to deal with local LE illegal self-interested access to CA DL data base for a self interested private purpose, except Breizling is preoccupied.
*har de har har
deep belly laugh Rose
B
dadgum. not only koin and kgw, but katu got the Terri addy and contact info from Desiree or her associate.
3 ducks in a row, same day, with privacy info from a government database is over the top.
who could access a CA DL database as an Xmas present to Desiree?
If it can happen to Terri, it can happen to anyone.
Get fbi Fennerty from Eugene on this!
these are newsbreaks on Terri?
when A Cooper was doing an extraordinary town hall mtg with the Pres,
and Trump specified at length in VT on msnbc,
avowing both his education (Wharton) and IQ were higher than anyone elses’
on both sides (really? yale law, harvard law?)
but kgw, koin, and katu rather than featuring prez v trump in progress
breaks the news to say CA DMV notes Terri has 2 vehicles registered in CA?
They deserve to have their stations occupied by ammon bundy…
What does #checkprotectionorders
mean? Only Kaine has a 2-way PO.
Sacramento is where KM hails from, generally.
Her imo flighty mother lives there.
Someone got this particular info from CA DMV (2 registered cars, addy, phone).
Who could do that but an employee with Medord PD, with MCSO, orcwith MCDA (investigator)?
That Someone chose to give to 3 media outlets.
Oh, oops. Kristen’s brother is an LE member in that neck of the woods (Sacramento area).
Iirc another Union Prez.
Now how can I address that Rose, lol?
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cd says:
January 7, 2016 at 6:29 pm
The CBS affiliate in Portland KOIN channel 6 just announced on a news break that the have found Terri Horman and that when the news is on the will tell everyone where Terri is living.
Because it is news where a private citizen is living whose address is protected legally…
B
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IMO I’ll bet the media has already supplied the HC/DY/KR with a description of Terri’s car and her address/phone number including her name if she changed it. The HC had a twitter picture of Terri posted so they must know her name.
It will only be a matter of time until they find her place of employment. She really should leave the country if she wants to get rid of those people. Ill bet there was someone working for the California DMV that clued in whoever broke the information to the media.and the media researched the rest.
So much for legal protection.
imo some family lawyer (imo not Bunch, switch to Stanwyck) needs to fike for custody eval based on changed circumstances of sole custodian:
new mommie has now worked fulltime at least a year.
new mommie stated online she must leave her
constantly seizing 8th grader alone against medical advice, relying on a dog.
a 55 lb 1 yo dog is moving in.
teenage new mommie daughter has moved out.
mother has stable home in CA.
has been the Sacramento deputy sherrif’s assn union pres for 8 years:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevin-mickelson-4192507a
can’t get katu, kgw, koin to dish their source.
a Stanyck- type can get Kristen, Kevin, and Kaine under oath.
LOL.
I infer from you noting #check protection orders, your inference is this comes from Kaine and associates, not Desiree and associate. Is that so? If so, what the heck is his (or Kristen/Kevin’s) motive?
Desiree’s theoretical motive: crazed hatred.
Kaine’s would be more complex and sophisticated
Not necessarily- I am saying somebody should have checked the court file before hitting blast. Moreover, my own research indicates the DMV info is incorrect , wtf is wrong with people?
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thinking on to info access, and dissemination motive.
Iirc kristen’s eldest said she’d lived in several places in a few years.
(she gave exacts nos. on twitter, I don’t recall them)
So kristen got a roof over her and her kids’ heads in her move.
She got an entry level job at Aveda, she said her choice because a daughter was
in their training.
So now she’s had a year of stable work, and 2 kids have left home.
Daughter 2 wrote mom on twitter, don’t blow this (so we have to move) before I graduate HS.
The question is whether an 8th gr medically challenged child, with a 55 lb dog moving in (and eating),
would cause Kaine to serve notice, and therefore causeKristen to tap her brother for info on Terri to pleaseKaine.
I forgot link to what SG says is the latest picture for Terri from twitter.
If SG has her twitter then she probably has her (new)name. I am sure the media does since they tried to call her.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=930594857030436
BTW
IMO She looks really good
I am annoyed by this.
First reading above the source seems like they should be in a bit of legal trouble. And second katu states in their article that she was the last person to see him alive. That is not true.
http://katu.com/news/local/kyron-hormans-stepmother-terri-horman-moved-to-california
I feel like law enforcement needs to stop everyone from making false statements.
Complete shitshow Meg, how is this womans personal privacy invasion news?
erose says:
January 6, 2016 at 2:06 pm
Anyone recognize where this photo was taken. It caught my attention because of the John Deere Tractor plaque on the wall.
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That pic was taken at the Oregon Zoo… it’s always bugged me due to the way KH is tightly gripping Kyron’s wrist… yet loosely lapping lil k… it was NOT a good day for Kyron… IMO
The new ‘story’ being spread like herpes, started with a KGW on the alert pages. That would be Kyle Iboshi who authored this cut/paste media push… and we all know whose got the bug in his ear, from the text he tweeted about being sent by DY during the Horman divorce hearing where DY was indignant that TH had showed up for her own divorce!
My bet is Kyle is behind this digging up of location. And that his source is likely the Medford connection who has DMV privileges. What better way of directing her minion stalkers to TH’s location whileing bypass any legal implications pointing at her? IMO
What I will say is this- if this information was gleaned through a database that is subscription based for LE professionals- it will be learned as a result. I doubt anyone is that stupid. It is interesting this occurs after the rafter dump on Underhills FB
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