Kyron Horman Missing: New Years Eve Settlement Ends Horman Marriage
Portland, OR- In a surprise court hearing, Judge Henry Kantor signed off on the agreement between Kaine Horman and Terri Moulton Horman to end their marriage this afternoon.
Details of the agreement have not been released publicly, but according to KGW, a financial settlement to include child support and a lump payment to Terri Horman has been reached.
In what can only be described as a bitter family court feud- the divorce matter was last in court on December 16th to decide if the Horman landscaper, Rodolfo Sanchez Estrada -who alleges Terri Horman tried to hire him to murder Kaine Horman at a lunch meeting – would testify.
Judge Kantor has not yet filed an order from that hearing but Attorneys for Terri Horman were granted a continuance from the pending temporary custody motion scheduled for December 19th and 20th.
BOC Associate Editor Tarin Kenley contributed to this report.
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Nothing on the case
But let Terri move out of state And all the local media jumps
I don’t know how that is not embarrassing to reporters covering it. I asked Iboshi to post his own address. These idiot are doxing for clicks.
B
OT… Oh, if only Kyron’s case had this sweet of an ending…
http://katu.com/news/local/portland-police-searching-for-missing-girl-9
@ Rose says:
January 7, 2016 at 9:21 pm
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Wow. Raising eyebrows. WTF?
My thoughts… Isn’t Sacramento where K does his distance work with Intel? Does he take lil k in his work travels now? Could this by the way to keep lil k safe from stalker/chalker creepers and implement visitation with her mother?
@tkg. re ” Could this by the way to keep lil k safe from stalker/chalker creepers and implement visitation with her mother?”
sorry, can’t imagine K permitting, & not wholly obstructing, the meagerist of visitation.
He has dealt in bad faith for 5 years.
K needed, & needs now, to be required to document a child care
plan during his working hours and during travels which is
more stable than Kristen. Other attorneys than Bunch would have nailed it.
Zebras don’t change stripes, and a k traveling
with K woukd’ve precluded bedfellows & bars.
And who would sit her during his CA company work hours?
” It is interesting this occurs after the rafter dump on Underhills FB
B”
dang just when I moved on from DY’s lips to Kyle’s ears (info from Tony tho)
to Kristen’s lips to Kaine’s ears (info derived from Sacramento sheriff unioneer Kevin), you
remind me Underhill & office have the greater motive–to redirect the crazed WS’s from his
FB site to gallopping after Terri on a Fresh Stalk. And I think door 3 makes the most sense.
love this: “Does anyone mind posting where Kyle lives
and where his personal property is registered?”
but why not bring katu & koin to the table?
I use urban dictionary a lot here (doxing).
The greater journalistic sin on kgw is not penny ante stalking
facilitation for digital hits, but the vacuum wrt real news.
LOL- I am embarrassed for him and the rest “posted by staff”. As I understand it, not citing, but there are legal protections in place here- my sources say straws and camels… we shall see.
B
If Terri changed her name and registered her car or maybe another car with her new name how did anyone find her in the DMV database. So did someone search the database using Terri’s Mustang for the search and not her name. Wouldn’t that person need the VIN number of her vehicle for a search like that?
Who would have that.
Kaine or Kristine – maybe an old registration or in the divorce property settlement
DMV in Oregon – could she have traded the car in and the dealer searched the VIN or CarFax record and then someone at the dealership shared Terri’s info with the media/DY
MCSO – They searched the automobile so they probably know the VIN
It is odd that finding Terri comes on the heels of RU getting cyber stalked. It will be interesting to see if that slows down now. I do believe that no matter who found the registration the rest of the research address Phone number was done by someone in the media.
IMO The media in Portland is nothing short of disgusting
Blink, You are not fat, lol.
If my beloved Mother was still with us I am positive I would be better behaved, LOL. As it is there is a celestial delay in what she would say that gets in the way
“Don’t get in the mud with the pigs you’ll shoot your eye out”
I don’t know if any of you watch the leftovers, but I swear this is how I picture the hater craters anymore.
B
@TKG, Thanks for the Oregon Zoo info. That zoo seems a nexus to something.
IDK if k would travel to see her mother in Sacramento. I think TH would have to travel to Portland to make it easier on k, or at least Roseburg.
Isn’t Sacramento is the general area where KH’s nanny with benefits hail from?
This is such a scary attack on personal privacy and rights, it’s hard to believe the ACLU isn’t on this. Maybe TH will be better protected by LE in CA. Wondering if crossing state lines to stalk and harass is a crime.
@TKG, Went back and looked, that is a tight grip on the wrist, I agree.
I’d say imo someone who does IT for the DA’s Office, tired of monitoring Underhill’s FB and deleting/blocking crazies, would be both motivated and capable of accessing CA DL database and passing a “tip” to 3 local media stations simultaneously to redirect WS Admin & her wolves. They would be mire likely to immediately run with it if they thought they were currying favor with the DA Office than if it came in anonymously or via Desiree. So how does Houze get at the DA Office or LE employee who accessed the CA DL database illegally?
I dunno, I can say if it was accessed by some DB that is not public, there will be a record of it. I have never ever had any problem finding anyone for professional purposes but malicious or nefarious intent has never been a motivation- there is only one reason to make that sort of info “news” and it is doxing- which courts are starting to pay serious attention to. I worked on a case where prosecutors were using database look ups ( I know and have access to same) to find dirt on defense counsel and they got caught.
B
Desiree’s Soldier repeatedly states she has the address and will give it privately by im to those
saying they will put Terri wanted fliers up near her residence. Soldier also had the power, or knows
who does, to call Kyle and get his headline changed. For Soldier to have the address, and
disseminate, imo it is most likely Desiree secured it and directly or indirectly gave it to the stations.
I hardly think Underhill or Kaine shot Soldier a message, altho Kristen collaborated with her early on.
What motivates this guy to jump when Young calls, answering his cell sitting in an active Courtroom?
https://m.facebook.com/KyleIboshiKGWTV/
Same motivation that publishes nonnews individual privacy info?
So Soldier posts in black and white on her site she will
dish to any stranger on the internet who im’s her Terri’s address.
That is dangerous.
Who with database access did she get it from? Yes, Blink in my
opinion a Medford man is just that stupid, esp with a demanding wife.
I know from a source he did it before, iirc in an effort to influence Quinn custody prior to 2010.
B
(Stalker/chalker creepers) are really excited. Bus tickets for Sacramento LOL I am kidding
If this works
https://mobile.twitter.com/pinkspiritgirl/status/685499977976557568
No one will name the source of where they got this information? Surprise! (not) Absolutely someone from the thin blue line. IIRC, TMH has family near Sacto, Roseville I think, so perhaps that’s why she’s relocated there….but could
someone refresh my memory about this:
Mr. Horman stated publicly Terri has not made any attempt to contact her daughter, didn’t he?
Wasn’t there a stipulation in the divorce settlement documents about how far away one could move in regard to the minor child’s custody arrangement? It makes me wonder if there have been changes in the custody arrangements, due to the fact that Terri was required to pay something, I can’t remember if it was child support or child’s health insurance, but anyway, if it was being made impossible for her to get and keep a job here, would/could she have gone before a judge to get the order changed, so she could move out of state to seek employment? and if so, wouldn’t that document show up in the civil court documents? Where is vw and gh when we need them?
I believe that was a reporter recap- not a Kaine quote.
If TH was behind or a subject of any child support enforcement or modification it would be part of the public record. Interestingly- it should be noted that every bit of info provided by CreeperKeeper was in fact, false. No mention of that, I notice.
B
Rod is getting more messages, not less.
Before Xmas Stacey made promises, incl physically demonstrating
at DA Office bldg. Desiree has a multiprong offensive
https://www.victimsofcrime.org/our-programs/stalking-resource-center/stalking-laws/criminal-stalking-laws-by-state/california
@ cd says:
January 7, 2016 at 10:17 pm
I forgot link to what SG says is the latest picture for Terri from twitter.
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That pic of TH is actually over 2 years old, taken in Roseburg at one of her neighbors gardens… before the name change petitions. And it is one of the best representations of her. IMO
I am going to be very bold here…Everyone here, Malty, Rose, Erose, Mockingbird, CD, ATG, everyone should please take the time to watch “Making a Murderer”. I don’t know yet if it is terribly slanted or if it is a true representation of what happened, but it embodies so much of the essences of what I have learned from Kyron’s tragedy. The questions of trust in people I expect would stand for the real principals of what I think is my country. It is a very challenging documentary to watch and to apply things we have all seen in many of Blink’s publications. I have said it before…Blink is a pioneer in rational, considerate thought development. Everybody please watch this show.
If you can get that reporters Twitter I had it for a short time then got cut off
He was talking about this to a guy with SAR About this named Humpheries or some thing like that
Sounded like a source I was cut off so fast But I think I saw something going on
There was a poster on WwS by a name like that with no profile who claimed to be reading a blog who did not
Think Terri did it claimed to be training some dog
Some one may be able to check out this smarter than I am also I don’t have a sign in
“According to documents obtained by KATU, Terri Horman relocated to Sacramento. ”
http://kval.com/news/local/kyron-hormans-stepmother-terri-horman-moved-to-california
If that don’t beat all. I missed the docs reference elsewhere.
That means the CA DMV database accessor, no doubt by vin in the new title appl coming in from OR, printed out and provided the vehicle, name, addr, phone info and gave to 3 stations (by fax? email scan? snail mail?) Documents does not refer to a written note or email from Soldier or Young(s). Imo it refers to a printout if an official State document containing the info
written about. That means any stalking crazies coukd just tap a buddie in LE to get privacy info about any of us from a State govt agency and dish it to strangers online.
Blink, you surprise me that the Youngs tried to wrest her elder son from his home of say 16 years during his
high school years. Quinn recently wrote online what a wonderful mother he has. That’s nice.
He is quite happy he moved to Medford for Sr year, with his community college AB, and his
moving in with his girlfriend out of high school. I wonder what his life trajectory would have been
had his brother not been kidnapped, and he remained in his longstanding home.
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How might a McCullough differ from the Youngs’ parenting? Idk. I know
what would go with us … I would hope a dad would’ve emphasized the value of a
4 yr degree, and if he went inState public, I would have positively
reinforced (bribed) him with frequent flier miled cheap cooking schools in Italy or
France each summer as a reward and to open his eyes beyond Oregon resort cooking
as a job. Further, there’d be no living together with anyone until graduation. I can’t
imagine a teen leaving a longstanding HS peer group, his teachers & counselor who know him, track coach, and so on in the all important Sr year to become a parental child to a devastatedly grieving mother. Must have been an informal arrangement, because I don’t see a Judge making that change that Sr year.
For Tony to access databases to seek
negative info on the McCulloughs to effect a custody change is super selfish, aka narcissistic imo.
longtime Union Pres KM finally flips from employee defense to no comment.
http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/crime/article2578912.html
The KGW facxebook page has been transformed into a hater page.300+ comments mostly hater lots of comments by SG and world soldier.
Wonder about Kyle Iboshi’s involvement Doxing Terri see below comment by
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Stacey Rivera-Green Thank you for not giving up on Kyron, Kyle.
http://www.spj.org/pdf/spj-code-of-ethics-draft-final-2014sep6.pdf
Shannon Stoy Kyle Iboshi (KGW-TV) #kyleIboshi Please let us know how the residence of a private citizen, who is on the record at a court proceeding you personally recorded attempting to exercise her right to privacy and to *not be considered a public person* out of fear to her personal safety and that of her children is either news, or ethical reporting? As a result, on this page alone there are dozens of calls to incite criminal activity and personal threats to this womans safety. This is a woman who has never been charged criminally in any matter relative to Kyron Horman and two different grand juries did not indict her or anyone else. Apparently the ethics standards for professional journalists has gone missing from your news editors office so here is a copy http://www.spj.org/…/spj-code-of-ethics-draft-final… I lost count at how many ethics codes this post breaches. I sincerely hope this woman and anyone else adversely affected seek available remedies to them.
B
I missed this on Missing Kyron FB
Dec 26:
“Desiree Davidson Young
Thank you all for the well wishes, I truly needed them today and I feel better already. Hope marches on and carries me with it. We will never give up searching for my Ky, and we will not stop until Terri is held accountable and Justice is brought forth for Kyron”
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I do not understand why Houze has not brought something in Federal Court related to conspiracy and interState stalking and murder and mayhem threats. Interfering with all kinds of Terri’s constitutional rights. liberty interests.
I’d like to see depositions wrt the latest address reveal.
I note the use of her word “we” (supports conspiracy count).
and her public accusation again that Terri did it.
Desiree seems to have these accusatory outbursts about every 3 months.
Houze is not a civil attorney.
No doubt he must “sign off” as TH criminal counsel for a civil action ( as he did with Bunch). Makes one wonder if TH established residency in CA for some sort of litigious advantage purpose.
B
CNN just had breaking news that TH was spotted buying a coffee at a McDonalds near Sacramento. Not.
For reals. Hide My Ass Dot Com will allow you to go un-doxed via VPN (virtual private network). Maybe I’m just rummy tonight.
https://www.hidemyass.com/
And all I do is wrap a jacket around my waist. Who knew?
B
Apparently January is Nat’l “Stalking Awareness” month, and at 2:58 to about 11:00 is a nice little professional powerpoint pressntation in one of the many US towns & States where a City Council & the DA take it seriously:
http://vp.telvue.com/preview?id=T04959&video=260617
Thought I’d better watch myself what I posted.
I was reminded of the use of gps in stalking, esp in
DV scenarios. That triggered my wonders. Did
either Horman car have gps? Could that relate
to saying you keep the truck today honey. Had Terri’s
spouse been tracking her by gos? DY has a car mwchanic
brother, could Terri needs a cars sweep for a hidden gps?
Could Kaine & Desiree really be collaborating and only put
on the appearance of estrangement? (with my Intel job
I can’t direct these stalkers, but you can.) And I did not realize
domestic violence (inhouse) was one of the 2 prominent precipitators
of stalking.
Also it said stalkers escalate over time.
One wonders why the local DA Underhill not only triggered but has not
intervened to halt this egregious stalking. Maybe he himself has
domestic unhappiness he is acting out vicariously, like an O’Donnell’s history.
If Houze ever takes a conspiracy action to Fed Court (Young, Oregon; Soldier, Washington; Subject, Calif), imo he has to name the Mult Cty employees and their agencies who kicked it off. Wonder if it can be filed in CA now? Iirc Underhill in pressor and iirc Gates in pressor. And, in fact, two joint plaintiffs strengthens the case against the govt actors. That would allow DDS to testify and the other plaintiff Terri would not need to testify except in the damages phase. Soldier has said many times Terri will never sue, or she would have to testify. Imo Desiree WANTS a PI stalking suit so Terri goes to Court and has to testify at her own expense. 2 plaintiffs solves that. And 2 govt agencies solves the deep enough pockets to be worthwhile issue. In the course of it, upfront, get a TRO on the stalking acts.
If I were Underhill, I’d take steps to mitigate now.
Stalkers attacking his own DA website heightens his notice.Steps
he has had to take to rebuff them (pull his site, block his stalkers)
and the content ($@X$ Terri & DDS) heightens his “notice” of the
problem, in fact gives him personal experience of what the 2 face.
I’d say if Houze files a Fed conspiracy suit, Soldier’s actions will
backfire on Desiree’s Army.
@cd re “I do believe that no matter who found the registration the rest of the research address Phone number was done by someone in the media”
Katu said they were given “documents” (url above.)
Have to believe stations had no need to double source
as these were printouts of internal CAState car registration
application documents. Our state maintains address, phone,
and email on the registratio.
(like to know if car registration document provision
to media violates CA privacy laws)
OT A Clackistan Sheriff’s Deputy and daughter, booted from A team to B team, have the power to arrest & exike a reputable coach for his home for almost 2 years while his wife dies:
http://www.oregonlive.com/clackamascounty/index.ssf/2016/01/soccer_coach_joe_leonetti_sues.html#incart_river_mobileshort_home
The good news is this was removed to Fed Distr Court. Plaintiff is underclaiming $. Needed a big punitive against the Clackistan Sheriff & DA agencies. Dismissal on eve of trial after 2 years, what a croc. This was always a Deputy
family’s vendetta imo.
I asked that question early, after learning TH assisted Porter in reading assessments for her students (sans Kyron as is proper) from a source. Seems a logical inquiry, right? I was told that LE never asked the question of any witness that would know that answer. That said, I am unaware of any sort of issue in that regard.
B
I wonder if any MCSO deputy family had a child at Skyline, say with a reading disability,
whose child came into Terri’s orbit? or who conflicted with Kyron? While not
related to tge crime, coukd be related to aftermath mcso focus on Get Terri.
@CD
KGW FB You are right sounds just like WWS I didn’t even read most of it except SS It gets to be the same old same old With the Soldier so excited spread Terri hate Now she thinks she has a foot in with local news
A lot of this is about her own image and importance Even more than Terri hate she loves the attention of being known
@Humphreys now and Elk Grove CA Posting
Is something to watch for
Most of this is really beyond normal people thinking Like Terri hiding If she had a job and been left alone by these
Crazies. Why move.
Have a comment with some questions hanging out from the 8th.
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Speaking of civil attorneys. What happened to Wagner coming out of retirement. He isn’t by chance retired in CA is he?
Rose says:
January 8, 2016 at 7:58 am
So Soldier posts in black and white on her site she will
dish to any stranger on the internet who im’s her Terri’s address.
That is dangerous.
Who with database access did she get it from? Yes, Blink in my
opinion a Medford man is just that stupid, esp with a demanding wife.
I know from a source he did it before, iirc in an effort to influence Quinn custody prior to 2010.
B
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A souce is saying TY accessed ODL information on Quinn’s dad? In an attempt to prove what?
I am not discussing that- just that I know for a fact TY used his creds to investigate issues surrounding Quinn.
B
@ blinks response to cd says:
January 8, 2016 at 10:36 pm
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BIG FIST BUMP!
Excellent post and notification to Kyle personally.
Kyle iboshi has his own fan page on Face book The Kyle Iboshi fan club
snipped –
In June 2014, a Multnomah County judge granted custody of the daughter to Kaine Horman, but approved a plan to help reunite the mother and child and allow visitation.
Terri Horman had started meeting with an assigned “parent coordinator” as required, but the logistics and costs of having a psychological assessment done proved challenging, according to sources familiar with the case. The plan is now on hold.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2016/01/terri_horman_stepmom_of_missin.html
Maxine’s version – I think this is the first time I’ve seen a reporter mention the issues with the parenting plan. Since she has had difficulty holding a job, how could she be expected to pay for everything? She ought to include that as part of the damages when she sues, don’t you think?
The way it is written, I think it makes it seem LE, the DA, and the judge think she is guilty of the unstated, non-existent charges although Maxine appears to be more careful in how she reports it (ex. no “last person to see him”).
@erose. I believed you. hah.
@nelmel. TY for CA resources.
@malty. Who set up and administrates that Iboshi Fan Club do you think?
Admin entries are drenched in Terri.
@Blink. Got my Urban Dict out for doxing. Some might call
it professional prostitution.
Here’s back at you with Nifonging: 2010 to 2016 Candidate, Underhill.
LOL.
B
ought to be a new DSM whatever (V, Vi, Vii? I’ve lost count) called
Facebook Persecutory SM Character Disorder. notable feature:
dehumanizing others while
leading symbiotic subfeeders to slay them.
As I sat feeding $1 thrift sale CD albums into the computer tonight, I contemplated the current General & Soldier campaign.
A phrase “The Hounds of Hell” came to mind. So I looked up the Masefield poem which I did not recall:
http://saltandice.blogspot.com/2013/01/the-hounds-of-hell-by-john-masefield.html?m=1
“Black ” (said the traveller), “black and swift,
Those running devils came ;
Scoring to cry with hackles stifft,
And grin-jowls dropping flame”
The “devil-hounds” are hunting humans.
Their directress is a huntress.
Color me confused. Just reviewed Underhill’s FB.
(aside, it seems from the many bizarre statements that
American’s might believe, follow, & elect any nut job, so I am
now worried about the crazy side of the Prez candidates)
How can a County DA play Stalking Host
on his FB page to myriad hate speech statements on line?
I thought him a nice man with a family, who runs or bikes, I forget which. And after
decades of kissing Frink’s nether parts, he worked his way to DA. Kudos.
Now I just see him as another member of a Stalking Conspiracy against a plain citizen who
probably plotted this whole squeeze campaign because his Grand Juries just won’t do what he wants them to.
But he has kicked off (Oct 2010) and fed a Stalking Conspiracy.
He needs to rectify, or he does not have the character public service requires.
DA convictions do not equal public service.
Convicting the right person does.
Right now Stalkers and their Sponsers should be prosecuted.
In fact, if he’s about to ask for a GJ vote forindictment, this coukd all be orchestrated antiTerri publicity by the DA
to soften the voters up.
@Ode. I googled Making a Murderer due to Blink and thought it looked interesting but wasn’t going to go further.
Without much thought, I put it in another dime a dz crime story. But, on yr rec I will watch and I bet it’s good.
OT using iirc your recipe our now formerly Expensive IBD Dog has not seen a vet in 2 years (but for shots).
OT
I’m sorry, I just have this cynical satirical attitude going that I am trying to shake.
http://truthinjustice.org/nifonging.htm
Rose says:
January 10, 2016 at 12:16 am
“…forcing the audience to rethink how valid even the proof we like to think is most reliable — DNA evidence — may not in fact be trustworthy.”
http://www.vox.com/2016/1/8/10734268/netflix-making-a-murderer-avery
How does that square with Tony’s interviews saying dna, or any forensic evidence, is not necessary for convictions?
In the case where he said that, unreliabke witnesses while discounting exculpatory evidence + his instinct sufficed.
Actually, the statement above says even dna expert testimony may be unreliable. What’s a week-intended detective to do.
On the movie trailer discussion, without seeing the doc, I do feel a rural upstate Wisc PD employee could absolutely plant evidence & mfg a case. Rural matters because oversight & accountability are less, and the Officers can trend toward feeling autonomous and superior to the laity….as is a risk in say Clackistan or Medford.
He looks like hinkley; his mom should’ve taken shears and done a 360* shave.
well-intended