Casey/Caylee Anthony Case: Tattoo and Duct Tape Photos Released
Orlando, FL– The State Attorney’s Office Has released additional discovery this morning including photos of Casey Anthony’s tattoo and the duct tape found across the mouth of 34 month old Caylee Anthony’s skull.
First Set Of Docs Here
blinkoncrime.com will be posting the images and discovery as soon as it becomes available. More Images Here.
Shovel and Duct Tape Here
Party Pics Here
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Looking through all the recent photos tonight, I’m seriously wondering if Brian Burner’s shovel was new as I recall he said it was (why sticker was still on it?), what then is all the brown-purplish discoloration on the back of it? There appear to be major scrapes on the back as well, but the brown-purplish discoloration really got my attention. Anyone know if LE ever tried to test for chemicals possibly used on it after the fact? A new shovel with have neither discoloration like that nor chemical residue left on it. Anyone care to enlighten me? Do we have any chem majors/engineers among all the Blinkers here?
I have just gone to WFTV and looked at photo’s of ducktape and got the shock of my life…Photo 15 of 18 has what looks like a picture in the tape of a small child holding something…where someone has written 100812/60 look above it, can you see it ?
maybe this has been addressed and i missed…was the pregnancy test used? dna????
The Laundry Bag – - ??
In the close up photos, on pages 9770 and 9771, of the rectangular laundry bag found in the garage, WHAT IS THAT MARK that is circled and initialed on the inside liner to the left of the tag? Looks blacked out in the first photo, but it’s a lighter shade shape than the rest of the bag in the 2nd photo. Is this the LINK TO THE VEHICLE?
Is it possible Casey poured gasoline on the stain in the trunk?
I think I recall reading something about gasoline destroying DNA, could it also destroy blood and bodily fluids? Could that explain why no biological fluids or DNA were found?
Could it also explain the high amount of gas vapors and stuff they found while testing the trunk? I always thought it was odd to have so many vapors in the trunk when it had been so long since the gas tanks were actually in the trunk…wouldn’t the vapors dissipate (by that time) if it was just fumes from two gas tanks that were sitting in the trunk?
Holy Cow all this brainstorming? Woah. In the end we can all pretty much surmise that caylee didnit tape her own mouth nor did it get on her face by itself. The heart shape residue or lack thereof matters naught. JMO of course.
The heart shaped sticker was mentioned in a letter by Karen Cowan? I’m too tired to know whoe Karen Cowan is or to quote from the letter but I will tomorrow. HOWEVER, there would be no reason for any one at the “scene” to look for a corresponding sticker to the residue if it wasn’t observed. AND they wouldn’t have gone to Casey’s room looking for my heart shaped stickers if they didn’t see the HSR. And the fourth piece of Henkel tape did not have the the HSS(heart shaped sticker)on it. I’m with you #153
AND
The ME office DID image the duct tape on the skull, not in scale, but there are images….
B
Oh I can’t handle it when this place goes over the edge. We need to reign it back in? This is the ONLY sane place left out there to discuss this case.
What’s over the edge?
B
Thank you, suz, for posting that the residue on the knife is not the same as the tape adhesive. Sigh. I was so hoping it would be.
I’d like to share some of my thoughts and comments on this doc dump. First, whatever happened to the toy horse that early reports mentioned?
In as much as this doc dump doesn’t necessarily connect KC to the crime scene, what we must keep in mind is that it certainly didn’t connect ANYONE else to it. That is important to remember!
Very
B
I understand what you mean, suz, about “seeing’ things. I was not looking for that heart shape since there were reportedly no pics of it. It just wasn’t on my mind to be looking for it. On another blog a couple of commentors said they were seeing an upside down heart and a large distorted heart and I was able to see them because I was looking. Earlier in this thread there was a commentor who said she could see what she thought was the O factor in pic 13. I looked and could not find it. Plus, the heart shape is too perfect to be caused by perception or the way the duct tape is laid. On photo 6 of the WFTV pics of the tape it shows the non- adhesive side and there is a faint heart shape though not as “seeable” as photo 8.
Thanks for your comment, Caylee’s friend!
Comment by tarnishedfork — October 9, 2009 @ 9:18 pm
…The heart shape residue or lack thereof matters naught. JMO of course.
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Aw, gee, thanks for saying that NOW! lol
You are so right!
Perhaps we all need to just step back, for a moment, take a deep breath and consider: the tape, which is very rare, is still extremely important, and can well be connected to the Anthony home, be it through the strip left on the gas can or the strip that held Caylee’s poster to a lightpole, let alone the THREE STRIPS (three – foresight of malice) of appx. 6″ long (thought out and purposefully cut) that covered her nose and mouth. There doesn’t have to be fingerprints or Casey’s DNA or even a heart shape sticker. Considering the tape evidence along with the abandonment and odor of the car, as well as the 31 days missing (and all that goes with that and a dozen other evidences, like those items of clothing that can be connected to the house and Casey) it isn’t likely that the defense will be able to create REASONABLE doubt enough to merit Casey an acquital.
Hang in there, Caylee’s faithful warriors. Justice will be served.
Well said
B
#39, Shelly: I too was chilled to the bone seeing Casey’s eyes all done up as though she was modeling for a mascara ad. It astonishes me that, despite everything Casey is facing (being put to death by the state, for God’s sake!), she is still vain enough to spend time carefully putting on eye makeup. Is she hoping some gorgeous guys are going to see her pictures online & fall in love with her? Send money to her commissary account?
Casey and her mother are missing some part of that which makes us human.
I am not sure she did her eyes, but if she did then she does it daily, she was not given advance notice, she was taken from her cell once the warrant was issued and the pic taken.
B
Myers #126, That was a remark that was made to Leonard or Rob or Tracy after they bailed Casey out of jail.
Blink,
The 3 pieces duct tape that was attached to the hair and skull is what has been analyzed and released so far correct? On page 42 #3453 evidence collected under Tag# J-60013 item #4 one large piece of duct tape from lane 7 item #5 two pieces of duct tape from lane 7. Have these items been analyzed and released? Thanks
I believe that may be Q100 (w/heart sticker) and Q104 referenced earlier as processed by LPU, but no results for those 2 items were contained in the latest release. Q104 is definately Henkel tape.
coreysmom
the duct tape pic is #9 on blink’s pics above. It may be a mind trick ut it looks like a nose on the right with the mouth in an O shape going down the left. Hope I explained it well enough. so sad and very hard to look at!
Sigh. Deleted again. Is there a guideline page I might refer to so that I don’t say or do whatever it is that I say or do to get deleted? My utmost apologies, Blink, for whatever it was, yet again. But please do advise me. Thanks so much for all you do.
Gav-
I have never deleted anything of yours friend, the site is moderated, and on rare occasions for some reason, the askimet program designed to boot spam picks up a regular poster comment. I have stopped using the bulk function for that and now go through them one at a time as a result.
B
To think that anyone other than Casey Anthony murdered Caylee requires everyone to suspend rational thought. The grave wax and coffin flies in the Casey’s trunk ties her car to the crime. I know that Cindy has said that the car didn’t smell when Casey abandoned it at Amscot, but her text to Amy suggests otherwise.
I agree totally, but the states burden does not allow them to seek prosecution based on absence of evidence it is someone else.
B
The 3 6″ pieces of duct tape found over her mouth and nose shows intentional death by suffocation which would keep the DP on the table.
I know thats the logic, but I personally disagree with that as an “aggregor”, to me it is more of a possibility absent corroberation. The ME, Dr.G, says the tape was affixed prior to decomposition. That is a patio door sized window, imo.
Also, the anthropologist report states the matted hair, in effect, kept the duct tape in place on the mandible and nasal aperture area. I do not think the State can prove that tape was put there as the “means of her murder” for many reasons.
I continue to believe there is a forensic link to Casey and the crime scene/death of her daughter. I do not believe the state would ever have put the DP back on the table without it.
B
Thanks, B. You’re so absolutely wonderful, and your work here, essential to all of us, and I would never, knowingly, overstep whatever boundaries might be.
Most, most fondly,
Gavi
I know, ty for your contributions.
B
“(Analyst Note: During examination of the duct tape found on CAYLEE’s remains, the Lab identified a residue in the perfect shape of a heart indicating that a heart shaped sticker may have been placed on the duct tape…”)p. 10309
When they test blood in labs for DNA and use it up, did it never exist?
Also, has the “bug and plant” analysis been released? It seems I read that everything is public.
There are no entymology reports yet, no findings on the cleaning equipment from the A home. Here’s another thought. I know Lee’s home was searched via a warrant, where’s that?
B
So, in light of the last doc dump – does anyone think there is still some evidence, yet to be seen, that will tie Casey to the murder of Caylee?
I guess the good thing is…there is no one else tied to her murder, from the evidence we have seen.
Please, someone…throw me a bone, here.
Q188, j-60053 item #11, “piece of cardboard mat with a pink raised heart shaped material”, was found on Dec 18, 2008 during sifting and handcomb, along with a bunch of other items, mostly dozens of pieces of black plastic, all of which were sent off to the FBI on Jan 12 2009.
I agree with you, Mariann. I think the only reason they said it was murder was that (as it seems to me they have said many times) duct tape doesn’t just get there by itself, so a person had to put it on deliberately. First report of duct tape is on Dec. 11 by Yuri Melich who accompanied Kronk to the remains and noticed a piece of silver duct tape across the mouth). Melich: “The tape appeared to have been purposefully placed there.” (pg 3376 http://www.wftv.com/_blank/18740699/detail.html
Okay, I know my posts tend to be more philosophical than technical—I try to leave that stuff to the big brains on the board, but in looking at the latest doc dumps, I’m surer than ever that Casey will be convicted soundly, even if on circumstantial evidence.
Glaring to me is the laundry bags, one found cradling Caylee and the other hidden in the Anthony house. I know they’re different models of bags, but they are of the same make. Even if they weren’t sold as a set of two, I can see someone buying two packages, each different enough to hold different (person’s) laundry. I’m not able to believe yet that Casey went out and purchased a laundry bag to dispose of Caylee, and have it turn out to be the exact make (even though not model) of the one at the Anthony home. She would not have wasted stolen money on that when she could (and would) just grab things from others (garbage bags, laundry bag, food from the fridge/freezer,…).
Maybe I need to gently put the remote down, but it seems that CSI and investigators will be able to pull manufacturer info to determine the lot numbers, and time of manufacturing. You’d think investigators would be able to determine purchases the Anthony’s made through credit cards or receipts, and through the cooperation of the stores that sell them. I wouldn’t expect that information to be part of this doc dump, but they would have certainly had to have TRIED to link them and I haven’t seen anything that says they had belonged to anyone other than the Anthony’s (a neighbor or friend), or that they couldn’t find a link at all. Surely someone (again, other than the Anthony’s) would have claimed ownership if it turned up missing, especially knowing where the bag turned up.
In short, I think the laundry bags have the potential to be quite damning. Even if they determine the bags are mass-sold, if they can link that make and those models to ones the Anthony’s have purchased, a reasonable juror could reasonably deduct (with the evidence in its entirety), that Casey is probably the only one who would have thought to use one as a cotton coffin for her daughter.
Same with the duct tape. If they eventually rounded up every person who bought that brand/type, which clearly would include the Anthony’s, a reasonable juror could reasonably assume that no one else would have a reason to use it on that particular child in that particular manner, again, as part of the totality of evidence.
There’s just so much out there that we’re not privy to yet. Patience, patience.
On page 10150 of the evidence, it says there were black acrylic like fibers found in Q59, the hair mass. I don’t see anywhere where these fibers were analyzed. Is it possible they could be from the trunk?
Also, from all that I had read previously, I thought the knife was just a table knife and I couldn’t understand how it could have been used for cutting anything. It actually looks like a steak knife to me — pointed end and serrations — much better suited for cutting duct tape. I know the adhesive on it didn’t match the duct tape, but then again, it was taken out of the car by Cindy so who knows if this is the exact knife that Casey had in the car.
Here’s my thinking- OCSO did NOT remove any cutlery from the Anthony home… Er go..
I wonder if she stole that knife from Jesse?
B
what more can you say, I am speechless, and crying…
I wonder what the odds that anyone who posts here or on any other Caylee site would be chosen for the jury.
shasta, they submitted the pregnancy test into evidence along with black plastic—said TP/ORA is interested in processing the black plastic with this submission (page 9808).
Ok, who or what is TP/ORA? I notice that TP/ORA (ora=orange county?) “looks to the lab” with help with the balloon, heart sticker, and other stuff, too.
SuzeeB has solved the mystery of the duct tape evidence numbers:
What OCSO refers to as Q100 (Henkel duct tape found in zone 20)is called Q104 by FBI. BTW, Caucasian hairs (very fine) light brown found along with fibers it seems (pg 9777, 9822) On 9805 they ask to examine Q100 for prints.
The other odd pieces of non-Henkel duct tape collected on dec 19 2008 are called Q316, Q17, and Q318 by the FBI, whereas OCSO called the two short pieces (3″x2″ and 1.5″ x 2″) Q230 and called the long piece (13.5″) Q229.
Pg 9899 in new disc talks about these odd pieces of tape – no knowns taken, no hair or fibers (one is , one is 13.5 x 2) no adhesive left either. pics 9908-9911.
Clear as mud, right?
ok then, if that is accurrate we still have Q100/104 still “presenting” as having been through the LPU, where’s the result?
B
No personal attack on Casey, but an observation.
When one tries to tick off twenty-four hours of a day sitting in a jail cell, not having to factor in at this point working in the license-plate-making department, I think they’ll find that putting on makeup would be something that would while away the minutes of your day, while waiting for your acquittal and all. In fact, looking at her photo, and in observation only, it seems like Casey has spent an inordinate amount of her day trying to perfect her makeup application, as it’s quite stark for someone who has no one to impress, and whose most daunting daily task otherwise is to accept her meals without dropping the tray.
Personally, I don’t consider her makeup to be anything more than passing time, and I’m only offended to the point of her apparent refusal to acknowledge that there are “tons” of ways to pass the time if she’d approach it from the standpoint of a full length mirror, and not one limited to the size of her compact.
Okay…okay…even I can see where I’m headed. No chastising necessary! Back to the evidence.
Blink my dear-
Wandering out of lurkdom long enough to remind you that not everything is out there yet. You know that. Entymology and botany reports…remember those plants growing (God forgive me) in and around the remains…I don’t believe we’ve heard much about them yet. Likewise, significant pieces of testimony still missing…reports from various pieces of evidence still missing…it’s not all been thrown out there yet. Promise.
And, if by some strange chance, it has been…there is MORE THAN ENOUGH circumstantial evidence to hang her…figuratively of course. If there is no smoking gun (and I truly believe there is for there to be a DP still on the table), the evidence overwhelmingly points to her and no one but her as the responsible party.
A recent murder case just down the road from me was highly circumstantial and yet the State meticulously crafted from that evidence enough proof to convince 12 jurors that only one person had the means to commit the murder. Heck, they even convicted the man without EVER HAVING TO PRODUCE A MOTIVE. Gotta love those prosecutors.
And, respectfully, as to appearance of the accused. Having long suffered bouts of anxiety, stress and depression, I believe you’re witnessing Casey’s body’s reaction to her very real circumstances. That face is the face of a woman who’s coming to terms with reality, probably for the first time ever. That’s the face of a woman who is beginning to realize she’s losing this fight. I have to believe her attorneys (incompetent though some are) have laid some very unpleasant facts on the table before her and a plea may come out of this after all. Blink, you know I never thought she’d do it, but looking at her now in these pictures, she’s just about given up. IMO
Keep the faith fellow Blinksters. There will be justice for Caylee.
My good friend DJ is correct. I have felt the current of “plea vibe” for a few weeks now. I personally believe it has to do with Lee. If you noted the last doc dump where he forwarded the email to his attorney to go to “the state” and his immunity, I think he told them something fatal to the defense. Pure speculation on my part.
I have every faith in the State’s case. I admit I am emotionally engaged more then I should be as well. I dont care. I stand for Caylee. I dont want this girl to have her day in court where she maligns everyone and her real estate goes up and she gets to go on a daily field trip. I dont want her parents living a lifestyle they dont deserve or would have had without the murder of their granddaughter. I dont want some other loser who thinks she can pull the same chit to weigh the odds with her baby.
B
Here’s more for the tape quagmire: If I read correctly, Q63 and either Q62 or 64 were stuck together and then separated. We haven’t seen much evidence about Q63, maybe that’s where the fingerprint is????
It was Q63 and Q64 stuck together, no prints on any of them
B
Suz -your post reads October 10, 2009@ 4:39 pm
Have you got Timer55? Just kidding. How did you do that?
Lol, that might have been Ole Blink fixing the time from the location of our tech time. They really prefer I leave things alone technically, cant imagine why..
B
Looking at Casey’s back I have to wonder if she doesn’t have Kaposi’s Sarcoma which is highly correlated with AIDS infection.
Type this in your google search:
Kaposi’s Sarcoma back american heritage events
Look at the picture and compare it to Casey’s back. I wonder if she hadn’t tested positive for AIDS shortly before all of this began. She wanted to “live the good life” while she could.
I have a few questions.
I have read and read and read but, but, I know I missed “stuff”. If anyone can direct me to where to read–I might need the help.
1. Page 3 (Page 10309) discusses pullups found at the crime scene. It states: “…seems this is an insert to a child pull up…could be from the same lot as those found in the home. This would show Caylee was not in the care of a nanny for an extended period of time as the suspect continues to suggest.”
Are there results released to this? Maybe I missed them.
2. Page 4 discusses pull up retrieved from the Dora back pack. It states: “…this would help show that Caylee was not with someone else other than her mother, for an extended period of time prior to Caylee being reported missing.”
Again are there result released in the + 1400 doucments and I missed it? If it is please direct me.
3. Blink what are your feelings on the “O” effect. Have you changed your theory? I am waivering on tape being placed so as to drownd the child.
4. Someone had posted a thought on Casey leaving for California, so she asks her Mom for “just one more day.” Post #31 reminds us she had made an appointment for a tattoo, thqat sound like she wasn’t planning on going anywhere. hmmmm…..
5. (Q 104) I must be mistaken……on Post #133 there is a link. It states in that link that Q 104 is: “small pieces of black plastic.” It is marked at 1208 hrs. I did not find anywhere that Q 104 is tape.
You have to match OCSO numbers and FBI numbers, I know it is confusing.
I have not changed my opinion on the O theory, it is my exact belief. I believe she murdered her daughter in some sort of rageful act which would qualify as premeditation, but I do not believe she murdered her by duct tape. So help me Jesus if I ever learn that is the truth I dont even think I could process it.
B
PS
Blink, What is juxtipah?
I know what juxtaposed is. Sorry to be dumb.
Something else I don’t understand:
Casey’s car is still in custody, right?
And, it still smells, right?
If these is NO body fluid/dna that can be extracted from that stain..where, exactly is the smell coming from? I would think, in order for a smell to still be present, there must be SOME decomp fluid somewhere in that car, right? And, then, can’t that fluid be tested for DNA??
ok Im scanning the pics here in my lab
and I do see some awful things
I also noticed that on either side of the tape, the edges are jagged like it was cut with a knife, not with scissors or the old fashion way of starting a tear with your teeth and pulling, which usually because of the fibers in duct tape will be a smooth straight line.
And, with that obvious fact, did they ever find the rest of the duct tape roll? and possibly match it to the end still on the tape?
And, any of the knives in the possession of the Ants or in the car have duct tape residue (which really sticks around, pardon my humor)
hmmm…
#187 I think she meant “chutzpah”. “In Hebrew, chutzpah is used indignantly, to describe someone who has over-stepped the boundaries of accepted behavior with no shame.” wikipedia
ROTFL, yes, I can be overly phoenetic at times, and underly spell checkish. I have also been known to speak in tongue known only to close friends and associates that wish I would refrain from it.
Thanks ada.
B
B-you are really good with the text abbreviations though. I kept looking for IIRC thinking it was roman numerals or something for evidence!!!
#162 coreysmom too obvious right? lol. Just thinking thaat the state should keep it simple even though casey IS a bit of a openbook and not the enigma she thinks she is.
Re: the knife. Blink, I think you may have hit on something. It never made sense to me that OCSO would have just taken Cindy’s word for it that the knife she gave them was indeed the knife she removed from the car and washed. If it was one of a set of the A’s dinner knives, you’d think they would have taken and tested the whole set. But it doesn’t appear that they did that. I also remember there being a lot of confusion a while back about whether there was one knife from the car and/or perhaps a knife found with the body. I don’t recall the specifics now, but you’re right — maybe the knife in this doc dump did not originate in the Anthony home.
I would be willing to place a bet it is not. Remember Rev Grund saying he was told Casey planted something in the car to implicate Jesse? He WAS the first person she called when her car ran out of gas at the Amscot… Just a thought
B
Blink –
Re: my post above regarding the decomp smell in the car.
If there is no more decomp fluid left in the car..why does it still smell so bad?
Because if there was decomp – they could test that for DNA, right?
I do not believe you can pull DNA from decomp fluid – I thought it had to be from a once live cell, blood, semen, saliva, etc-
They could potentially get lucky and get a skin cell or “touch dna” but doubtful.
I think for me the equation has become. Car= decomp in air. Car= hair with apparent decomp. Car has no decomp fluid.
B
Blink-
I am coming at of lurkerville to tell you that you are driving me nuts. I pour over thousands of pages of discovery and I NEVER, EVER see the stuff you do before you point it out. The knife thing put me over the edge.
OF COURSE she planted it. BRILLIANT. Frickin Brilliant. Why would she need to plant evidence if she was not guilty. I swear if that knife is Jesse Grunds I am nominating you for something. But I probably will sit here in awe and keep trying to develop my head to think like yours and all your amazing posters. I do however make the world’s best banana bread.
I will take the nomination to eat that Banana bread, Blink Jr is a peanut butter banana-holic.
TY kindly.
B
Re: the pullups, i think there was info in Conway’s personal doc dump from last week re: item 21 (the pull-ups). What they found in the house and car (backpack) were princess and little mermaid patterned ones; most pieces from the remains site were too deteriorated to discern a pattern, but a scrap from the remains site (Q92) has an apparent teddy bear pattern that is easy to discern (page 9588 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/conwayrelease.pdf).
So what does that mean? Zanny did it???
On the same page, FBI sez no additional mfg info was located in the laundry bags Q84 and K33.
Blink #195,
Thank you for answering.
If there is no decomp fluid – why does the car still smell then?
Thanks in advance!
Because there was a dead baby in it for 2.6 days, approximately.
Sorry, not being glib, I am working on the answer to that myself.
B
I honestly feel Casey drowned Caylee in the pool either in a fit of rage or with maniacal forethought. The tape was used to stop the foamy liquid from escaping from her mouth and nose, the result evident in drowned victims.
There is no emotion for Caylee, as presumed Casey had in covering the “O” factor.
Just got the book “People of the Lie”. Thank you Blink for the recommendation.
Tug, enjoy, but it was a readers recommendation, Jan or one of our lovely Suz’s.
B
I wonder what sticky stuff is on the knife if not duct tape adhesive. Odd.