Casey/Caylee Anthony Case: Tattoo and Duct Tape Photos Released
Orlando, FL– The State Attorney’s Office Has released additional discovery this morning including photos of Casey Anthony’s tattoo and the duct tape found across the mouth of 34 month old Caylee Anthony’s skull.
First Set Of Docs Here
blinkoncrime.com will be posting the images and discovery as soon as it becomes available. More Images Here.
Shovel and Duct Tape Here
Party Pics Here
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Blink, and Peggy, please don’t forget a generous helping of good old fashioned chicken soup! Be better and be blessed.
Gavriella, Good morning to you,
Oh gosh, no, my question was not of a personal nature, so very sorry to have alarmed you. I feel terrible for causing you to worry. Considering your caring nature and paramedic background, I apologize for not defining my question. Rest assured that I watch over my loved ones like a hawk and react immediately at even the slightest sign of a sniffle.
I was speculating on the syringe found at the crime scene. Wondered if there was a somewhat “commonly used” pharmaceutical that came in the form of a pre-filled syringe for adult use, that would have an adverse affect such as heavy sedation on a 2 to 3-year old child. I focused on an asthma-related med as a first example.
#350
All good points suz.
WPG. Whew!!! Glad to hear you and yours are alright! Good point on the syringe, but I believe both Casey and Caylee were typically healthy, unless I missed something. No medical reason for a syringe to be there; but of course, the syringe was found in a wrapper, inside a toilet paper roll, that was inside a Gatorade bottle, that contained an unknown brown liquid, if I recall the info correctly. I am most interested to know the chemical composition of that brown liquid, aside from, perhaps, muddied water, as it just seems to me that great care went into concealing it within the bottle, ie: in a toilet paper roll? Do you know if there’s any Anthony with say, diabetes? Insulin would be common. Would you have any further info on the wrapping of the syringe? Was it the original packaging, unopened or a wrapping placed after the fact? It’s good that it was wrapped, perchance the contents of the syringe might be better determined. Do we have any info on that?
Again, I am so glad everything’s okay with you! There is nothing more frightening to a child (and I hate to say this considering the duct tape and suffocation, but) than the inability to breathe.
: Gavi
O, sorry, insulin injection in a non-diabetic could be deadly.
There was so much trash in those woods, I think it’s really hard to know what if any of it is related to the case. But i am curious to know what was inside the bottle.
Suz, you’re absolutely right! When the syringe was introduced my first thought was “druggies” who frequented the wooded area. We once lived on Sun Vista Way, and though I would say the majority of kids in the neighborhood are pretty decent, there were a few, as everywhere, and everyone knew what went on in the woods. My own kids built a few forts in there, back when they were in elementary school.
Gavriella, you are a sweetheart.
I agree, no “medical” reason for that syringe being there, which leads to thinking of “nefarious” reasons. The syringe found is suspicious, IMO, as CA had a couple of potential options in terms of unauthorized access to pharmaceuticals.
No information on the syringe contents has been released.
Right now I am only speculating on it. I particularly want to focus on asthma. If an adult is having an asthma attack, could an injectible be administered to counter the effects quicker than an inhalant, and could the same syringed medication and dosage cause heavy sedation if administered to a healthy, non-asthmatic 2 year-old child.
If I recall, The Gatorade bottle with the syringe, wrapper and toilet paper roll, contained an unknown liquid with some white sediment.
A Crystal Lite bottle with the brown liquid (again, if I recall) was either found in the car or in the trash bag from the car.
Also, if that found syringe was indeed used on little Caylee, hopefully some trace of DNA can be recovered.
Since there was an empty container of Copenhagen chew, I’m going to hazard a guess that the brown liquid in the crystal light bottle from the apartment trash was tobacco spit.
westsidehudson, I’m still trying to imagine it happening, even with my ‘she snapped’ scenario. When does it happen? She leaves with the kid, then Geo goes to work and Casey sneaks back in. Kid starts throwing a fit about something and Casey snaps and then what? Gets the duct tape from where? Is is sitting out because they were fixing something, so it’s really handy? Is it in a closet? Does she have to go the garage to get it? A shed? Then where does she do it? And when does she realize the child has died? Does she stick it on her in the bedroom and then storm out, not intending to kill her, then comes back and finds her dead? But in that scenario, wouldn’t she have panicked and torn it off to try to get the kid breathing again? Does she apply it and stay there while the child expires? Gawd, it’s just too horrible to contemplate. That’s why I am always hoping the tape was applied after death to fake a kidnapping, cuz like Blink I just don’t want to imagine the horror otherwise.
WPGMouse, injections are faster, and yes an overdose in a child can cause loss of consciousness, I’m just not certain how much it would take to cause the snycope, and will try to find that out for you. I’m at work, so it may take me a bit.
WPG, finally get a minute. The epi dose for young children, as I recall, and though it may have changed since my days in the streets, is 0.05 to 0.1 of 1:1000 solution, not to exceed 0.5. An adult’s dose can be up to 1mg. (If there are medical people here, correct me if I am wrong, please. It’s been a while. Just about 10 years). The only instance of overdose from Epi that I know of was when a child was administered 5 miligrams instead of .05. This child suffered severe repiratory distress, but was treated and survived. I don’t know that he lost consciousness.
If you don’t mind my asking, why epi and asthma? Is there a history of asthma associated with Casey, which may have attributed to her adamacy about smoking?
Gavi
If Casey were going to (or did) inject her with something to kill her, then why the duct tape? Seems like overkill, to use an unfortunate phrase.
Casey is in the NEGATIVE in her account. Ill be curious to see who will be the first to deposit some $.
& what if, WHAT IF Friday A.M. The Judge goes you know what, your aquitted…of all charges, and lets her just WALK OUT. I mean, its not like she would even make it out of teh front steps of the Jailhouse, she’d be taken care of…but wouldnt that be interesting. -More punishment? – Because she would NEVER survive.
Gavriella
Many thanks to you for the information.
One of the things CA is not, is asthmatic. I am still working on the rest.
suz
IMO, she was not injected with the intent to kill. I typed up comments yesterday on a theorized application of the duct tape but decided not to post them. It was in regards to multiple pieces of duct found on, with, and around the little body of Caylee Anthony, that indicated to me premeditation, amongst other (heinous and cruel) things.
I am attempting to give Blink (and others) “something” in that this little baby could have been sedated first, then the duct tape was applied causing her death. Sedation could suggest remorse or “sensitivity” towards the suffering of the victim, and I have not seen a display of either emotion. JMO
# 349-
Suz,
I’m so sorry I’ve confused you! I mistakenly included the heart shape residue as one of the two items (stickers) found at the crime scene.
#358 wpgmouse
“If I recall, The Gatorade bottle with the syringe, wrapper and toilet paper roll, contained an unknown liquid with some white sediment.
A Crystal Lite bottle with the brown liquid (again, if I recall) was either found in the car or in the trash bag from the car.”
FYI – Tony Lazzaro’s room mate Nate ‘chews’ so that could be what the brown liquid was found in the crystal light bottle. My brother used to chew (or ‘dip’ as he called it) and he always had a empty Mountain Dew bottle with him to spit it into. (I know, discussting, but not the point I am trying to make) Cameron drinks Crystal Light. So Nate could have easily used a Crystal Light bottle to spit into. This was most likely found in the garbage bag in the trunk of the car. The garbage bag that came from Tony L’s apartment. So I don’t necessarily think the brown liquid found in the Crystal Light bottle is nefarious. There was also a can or an empty can of Copenhagen tobacco found in that trash bag.
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/6035332/2008-0908-Police-Interview-Tony-Lazzaro
#126 myers (from thread called caseycaylee-anthony-case-tattoo-and-duct-tape-photos-released)
“I would like to know if anyone could direct me as to where I believe Casey said, “They haven’t even found her clothes yet” or something to that effect. I have watched the jailhouse visits and can’t find where she says that.”
This was a statement that Tracey heard Casey state while she was in the Anthony home. I believe that Casey made this statement at the time she was saying that the OCSO had the timeline wrong and/or when Leonard Padilla was in the Little Econ searching for Caylee.
My take on this is that perhaps Casey left some incriminating evidence elsewhere and not at the remains site by the Anthony home. I would think Casey wouldn’t want anyone to find the baby’s body and planted some clothing elsewhere to throw investigators off.
Here are two links that allow me to have this belief:
“An independent volunteer search team for Caylee Anthony may have discovered evidence in the case of missing Caylee Anthony. Orange County, FL deputies were called to the scene and carried away bags of potential evidence. According to one of the volunteer searchers, some of the clothing articles collected, “were girls clothing and they matched the sizes on the search warrant.””
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2008/08/16/caylee-anthony-still-missing-independent-volunteer-caylee-search-team-find-possible-evidence-clothing-backpack/
Exerps from an LE interview with Tony Lazzaro:
TL: Uhm, I was, when I was just like (sighs) it scared me when I saw this police photo, the photo of the, of the, of the, of her clothes, of the clothes theat they, supposedly she has.
EE: Uh-hum (affirmative)
TL: On Fox news. That black dress.
EE: Uh-hum (affirmative)
TL: That looks familiar that black dress
YM: Familiar how? I mean…
TL: That either she showed me that she was going to like wear that dress one night and never did. The one, I’m talking about the one with the silver, the silver things on the side.
YM: Ok
TL: Do you know what I am talking about?
YM: Uh-hum (affirmative)
TL: That photos that released? Um, now I couldn’t see that pink back pack, but do you have abetter photo of that pink back pack?
YM: A pink back pack. Whose pink back pack?
TL: There was a picture uh, that I saw on Fox news. It was like a picture of like the black dress with this silver thing, and a pink back pack.
YM: Uhm…
TL: In the woods. Some, that somebody said they found.
YM: Oh, oh okay. So it’s a picture of something that was found, not something that she was…
TL: No.
YM: (inaudible)
EE: Civilians wound up finding that bunch of stuff over by Amscot I think is the story you’re talking about.
YM: That’s, that’s a black dress I’m, that’s the only black dress I’m…
TL: No
YM: Okay
TL: No, I mean I know that black dress
EE: So you see her walking down the road
TL: Right. With a backpack on
EE: What’d the backpack look like?
TL: A Jansport backpack I think. It looked black, uh, black and pink and white backpack if I can remember.
EE: Is that the one that’s been on TV?
TL: Yes, well
TL: Yeah (affirmative), that’s the one (inaudible)
YM: What about a duffle bag? You ever see her with a duffle bag?
TL: Uhm
YM: Black and gray maybe?
TL: I think that’s the small one.
YM: Uhm, maybe. Maybe, maybe
“I do remember her wearing that dress though twice. I can find out though when the photo was printed because the, I know the kid that takes the photos. So he has prints.”
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/6035332/2008-0908-Police-Interview-Tony-Lazzaro
To date, I have not read about these clothes and whether or not they play into this case. I find it very interesting that Tony seems adament about the black dress and pinbk back pack. I could be reaching, but I tend to lean towards believeing that these clothes are part of this case. This is my take on Casey’s statement regarding “they haven’t even found her clothes yet”.
I would love to hear your take on this Blink and fellow Blinksters. Sorry my post is so long.
My take is, Joe Jordan was associated with Gale St. Fraud. Nuff said. I am suspect of anything that crew is involved in.
B
#366 FYI – These are snippets from the links. My didn’t come through. This is not entirely in the exact order as on the interview pdf.
#366 The link that shows more photos of the clothes and back pack found
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3276.0
#366 Oh I almost forgot there was also a gas can found with the clothes and back pack. Things that make you go hmmm…?
#360-3. My Friend Suz the Sleuth, when you solve this mystery you will let the rest of us in on it, won’t you? God knows, Casey won’t.
Chery in TX
You misread my post.
I referred to thinking of the “syringe” in the “Gatorade bottle” as “nefarious”. I commented on the Crystal Lite bottle with brown liquid to clarify to Gavriella (354) that this was not the bottle the syringe was found in.
Although I, myself, have not been discussing the brown liquid, others here have been. You and suz could very well be right about the chewing tobacco and the Crystal Lite brown bottle.
Cheryl in TX
Oooops, my apologies for the typo in your name. Sorry. You can give me “L” about it, if you like.
Here is one good article by THE expert. I just hope they found some evidence of coffin flies or larvae in the trunk or on Caylee’s remains- that will prove she was put into the trunk/garbage bag alive or at the time of death.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/12/science/12file-fly.html?_r=3&hp&ex=&ei=&partner=
Things like this are a nod from God A reminder that HE is in control and will have the last word in Caylee’s case. The Anthonys are fooling no one.
A color photo of the gatorade cool blue bottle.
http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedImages/225018gatorade.jpg
YouTube video immediately grabbed my attention.
Re: coffin flies: On page 10079 it says they sent the napkins in the car to an entomologist who noted ‘coffin flies’ being present as well as ‘grave wax’ or ‘death wax’.
Justice for Caylee, cool article. Did you notice that the entomologist from there is also (possibly) involved with this case?
Titch posted this on a different thread:
Quote
From: Vass, Arpad Alexander
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 3:09 PM
To: Melich, Yuri (OCSO); Vincent, Michael (OCSO)
Subject: flies
Mike, forgot to mention something in my last email. I FINALLY got a call back from Dr. Neal Haskell, my entomologist friend, and he said that the ‘fruit flies’ may really be coffin flies and that might be significant. He said that if you still have them to please send them to him at the following address and he will check them out.
Dr. Neal Haskell
425 Kannal Avenue
Rensselaer, Indiana 47978
Arpad A. Vass, Ph.D.
Unquote
#373 & 377 Thanks for clarifying, and Suz, special thanks for posting the pic of the bottle. I was having trouble enlarging the one I found, so this is great. We couldn’t be so fortunate as to have Casey’s DNA in the bottle of brown liquid, could we? She wouldn’t have attempted to impress Tony by dipping into his can only to have become disgusted, thereafter spitting it into the bottle? My aunt’s father, and a couple of his sons, were long time chewers who spat into cans, (gross) and as I recall the stinking mess was slimey and chunky. I had to clean it out a few times. Any pics on the brown liquid?
Also, regarding the Gatorade bottle, could it be that this bottle contains Casey’s homemade concoction of chloroform, which she injected into Caylee? Caylee wouldn’t be the first fatality of such a malicious act. Surely it’s been tested by now, why haven’t we heard about that? Or have we?
And too, and in conclusion (perhaps), wpg, I still don’t quite get where the epinephrine comes in. Do you know something we don’t?
Gotta get ready for work. Y’all have a truly great day!
Gavi
Isn’t chloroform colorless? And I think it eats plastic, so needs to be stored in glass.
# 360-suz, all true. I have to say, though, why go through the horror of placing the duct tape?? I know that people who murder known victims have the need to “cover” the victims face. I suppose psychologically they don’t want the victim “looking at them”, or they can’t stomach looking at the victims face as it represents the essence of who they were. But why not a towel, or a blanket? Something soft?
Even if the duct tape was placed as a ruse to make the killing look like a kidnapping…WTF? It still tells you something about the ‘hardness’ of the person trying to cover the act after the fact.
It may be silly, but as a culture, when dealing with death, don’t we place our dead loved ones in a casket with a pillow? Surely, we all know that it isn’t really making them anymore comfortable, because they are gone. I think that there is symbolism in that act. We want them to “rest in peace”. So even if the duct tape was placed postmortem, what does that say symbolically about the person who put it there?
westside, indeed, but of course it didn’t obscure her whole face (or eyes) we presume. That’s why I gravitate to the “mentally unstable young mother who snapped” theory, where the duct tape had a literal or figurative purpose of silencing the noisy/crying child.
If placed post mortem, would she get the tape in her hair, or was that the result of a struggle with a living or at least upright (or not lying on her back at the time) child? Was that fourth piece of Henkel tape used to bind the hands, or to close the garbage bag, or had it also been on the face?
Why not wrap the tape around and around the head, mummy like? Why the strips? (I reckon that’s why Blink thinks she was lying in the trunk or something already when the tape was applied, but getting it in her hair makes me wonder, unless of course it was hurried, as one can imagine it would be.)
Very important, the tape was attatched to the temple region hair on one side, I dont feel like being more graphic than to say the decomp process insured the tape stayed put. Imo, she was laying down, and possibly on her side if the shortest tape was applied last.
B
Suz, you’re right. Shows you what little I know about chloroform, other than it’s prior use as an anethesia/sedative, and the damage it does to one’s internals, I didn’t have a clue. Duh! And to think chloroform is one of the things I want our water filters to get rid of! Double duh.
#382: And if you both would be so kind, Suz and West, and why the tape, I can but think of one (well, maybe two) explanations. Rage. I got stuck on one of your more recent posts, Suz. #360, the whys and the whens and the wherefores. I just couldn’t shake it last night, and thought a lot about the tape, and the whys and whens, and the night of the 15th began to trouble me, deeply. The fight that occurred between Cindy and Casey, and Cindy’s having choked her. I couldn’t help but to wonder if Caylee didn’t witness this event, and if she did, how she might have responded to it. I can well imagine she must have been quite anxious, and perhaps even crying — correction, no doubt crying and struggling for words she didn’t have to not only express herself but to question. Perhaps she could question having witnessed not on the shouts and swearings, but the violence, and then her mother’s storming out of the door. How could she have been but horrified, though Cindy makes no mention of this when she speaks of putting Caylee to bed. All seems well for little Caylee, as Cindy tucks her in, but — perhaps it wasn’t. She was old enough to have questioned, “Where’s my mommy?”
I know it’s been suggested that Casey was home all night. I tend to doubt that. And so what if there were no cell phone pings to follow. Who’s to say she took her phone with her. Nonetheless, we don’t know how Caylee responded, or what she had to say about the whole event to either Casey or Cindy, and Casey may well have reacted badly to that. What was it that Casey did to keep the little girl quiet from around 7:30 a.m. to what 1:00 p.m., the day of the 16th. Why did she keep her confined to her room? I can only imagine, but being 2 1/2 Caylee would have had things to say, like how it was she was hungry, or wanted to go see her grandpa. Children that age, and especially girls, can be pretty persistent and were the case, Casey would have been well perturbed, and after some 4-5 hours spent cooped up in her room with the daughter she resented anyway, she may well have been most anxious to be out of the house, or at least out of the presence of George so that she could “deal” with Caylee. The three had only a brief encounter, as I recall, George seeing them just prior to Casey walking out the door with Caylee.
Upon leaving the house, if but for that very short time, she’d no where to go, but to drive around and around and perhaps Caylee was still so full of wonderment. “Where’s grandma?” “See Grandma?” There’d been a most frightening fight, then mama was gone and grandma tucked her in, but then mama was back, but no grandma. How do kids process this?
I can also imagine that in driving about, and should Caylee have been questioning, Casey would have become quite irritated with her, “I’m your mother! Not Grandma!” Still fragile from the night before Caylee may have begun to cry, and perhaps she was still crying when Casey returned with her to the house, and Casey then fairly well enraged cared about nothing but shutting her up, and of course, Caylee would have been resistent, which would only have further enraged Casey, and so the three pieces of tape. I am not so certain that any impression of an “O” is anything other than a taped shut SCREAM.
Chloroform
suz
I believe you are right. If I recall, chloroform is used in cutting Plexi-glass (don’t ask). If chloroform was used in this crime, it could have affected to some extent other synthetic substances such as plastic or Polyester, like the fibers of the carpet in a car, or the waterproof liner of a laundry bag. Perhaps the “air test” is not the only evidence the FBI has pertaining to use of pure grade chloroform.
suz, you just added something to my day.
correction to Chloroform
in cutting… in SHAPING Plexi-glass (altering the structure of Plexi in order to bend it)
# 383_ Blink_”Very important, the tape was attatched to the temple region hair on one side, I dont feel like being more graphic than to say the decomp process insured the tape stayed put. Imo, she was laying down, and possibly on her side if the shortest tape was applied last.
B”
I would surmise that it would be easier to attach tape to a dry and intact surface rather than a wet degraded one (decomp stage)? Or do you think it could have been attached prior; either postmortem pre decomp or on a living child?
It is my personal opinion it was applied shortly after death, but I admit it is equally possible to have applied it on a living, but unconscious child as some believe. I just really dont see the reason for it, could have smothered her or drowned her without it, and both could have passed for accidents.
B
I lifted this excerpt off of WS. It doesn’t explain the exact time of tape placement. It didn’t explain whether the tape was adhered to a living being, postmortem but pre-decomp being’s remains, or postmortem active decomp being’s remains (or post decomp). I hope that sentence made sense.
It does, however, demonstrate a lucid argument against the defense’s claims that the duct tape was not over the mouth. Had it not been over the mouth, the mandible would have separated from the top portion of the cranium/skull.
“Dr. Shultz -Opinion: Considering the dispersal of the skeletal remains, it would not be expected to find the mandible in this position unless something affixed the mandible in this position prior to decomposition and the hair matting forming. In skeletal cases involving surface depositions, the mandible and cranium are normally found disarticulated because there is nothing to hold the mandible in place after the soft tissues decomposes. Based on the position of the tape and mandible, it can be inferred that the mandible remained in this position because the tape held it in place prior to the hair forming into a matt on the base of the skull.”
West, that is in the anthro report, is on here somewhere, and I agree, which means it had to have been put there prior to rigor, in any phase. I think if not any evidence of disarticulation would be appreciable on exam. I want to say however there was some movement, now your going to make me go back there.. not fun.
B
So Blink (and sorry to belabor this, I know we are in really uncomfortable territory, and that goes double for me), in your opinion, did the tape catch in the hair on the side she could see (and for some reason did not sweep it out of the way), or on the side she could NOT see (so she accidentally stuck it to some head hairs, mandible, etc.)?
It only appears to occur unilaterally. Without knowing how much hair we are talking about, I am speculating, but in Dr. Schultz’s report he refers to the tape being in place because it is attatched to the skull hair and not the mat in that reference, so I am guessing it was appreciable. Has me leaning to the postmortem thought again as her head would not be rigid and Casey would need 2 hands, one to hold her head and one to apply the tape, and I think she used 2 hands to apply the tape.
Would make sense if some hair were caught in it her head was leaning to one side at the point of application.
Now, gonna go hurl. This poor baby.
B
Blink???
“I want to say however there was some movement, now your going to make me go back there.. not fun.”
If you don’t want to deal with the graphic part of a description, I understand. But the statement of “movement” has truly piqued my curiosity.
Are we talking about movement that implies life, or movement of the jaw beneath the duct tape? I can certainly comprehend that movement would occur particularly if there was ebbs and flows of flood water over time
Movement would be the wrong word, it was positioned “slightly posterior” but under the base of the cranium.
B
Hey, that patio rug Q245 we were all excited about that “lit up” under an alternate light source turned out to have no evidence of decomp, I noticed earlier today when I was looking for something else (can’t find a citation in the discovery right this moment).
Lol, kinda like the big stain in the back of the trunk- HMMMMM.
B
Sorry I didn’t see your newer post # 387, while I was posting mine.
“It is my personal opinion it was applied shortly after death, but I admit it is equally possible to have applied it on a living, but unconscious child as some believe. I just really dont see the reason for it, could have smothered her or drowned her without it, and both could have passed for accidents.
B ”
It could, then, go back to suz’s theory of an enraged mother proceeding to ‘overkill’ with duct tape in suffocating her child.
It’s the same with cases where victims are stabbed hundreds of times. Why more, if one or two will do the trick? Excessive anger and emotion?
I’m personally voting (with my prayers) for postmortem placement of the tape, in the trunk, in the garage where the tape is handy—in order to stage a kidnapping gone wrong. I just can’t stomach the alternatives.
Blink, well, as someone noted, they do have little dogs who might have done something that would light up on a patio rug. (I’m not a believer in the magic stain just yet, but who knows.)
If your referring to the trunk, I believe the magic will come from the confiscated sweepers and steamers from the Anthony home. He can say whatever the flip he wants, George did not leave for work on the 15th directly after they dropped the car off. He does not hit epass until 5:10PM, we KNOW Cindy was back at work. He cleaned that dang car doggonite absolutely.
B
Yep, those sweepers are going to tell a tale.
MOUSEDROPPINGS!
My internet service went down four times as I tried to quickly make another correction on my Chloroform comments.
I got my “making a plexi-container” memory mixed up (sorry, it’s been a while). Chloroform was used to BOND pieces of Plexiglass via melt process (cutting = table saw, bending = heat torch).
Let me just repost a “corrected comments”:
Chloroform
suz
I believe you are right. If I recall, chloroform is used in BONDING Plexi-glass (don’t ask). If chloroform was used in this crime, it could have affected to some extent other synthetic substances such as plastic or Polyester, like the fibers of the carpet in a car, or the waterproof liner of a laundry bag. Perhaps the “air test” is not the only evidence the FBI has pertaining to use of pure grade chloroform.
suz, you just added something to my day.
“New Revelations in Caylee Anthony Murder “48 Hours” Saturday: Exclusive Interviews and In-Depth Look at Case of Murdered Orlando Toddler that Captivated Country.” If you go to 48 hr. hr. website they are airing this on Saturday! It’s not only Cindy and George on the show but “the entire defense team!” This will certainly backfire on them, they are desperate!!! Read more on 48 hr. website! This will not sway any jury but will backfire!
# 393_suz
I always assumed that it was a cover-up, as well. But it is beginning to make less sense to me. Someone could have kidnapped Caylee and suffocated her without the addition of duct tape. So it seems an extreme added “effect”, if that was the case. I’m starting to think that it was a rage killing.
Hi Blink-
What makes you think George cleaned the trunk?
Assuming he did, could the cleaning solution he used destroy biological evidence from the ‘stain’? If that’s the case then wouldn’t the tests done by Oak Ridge show that some sort of cleaning agent was used? It’s my understanding that the main chemicals found in the trunk were associated with gasoline and chloroform, I do not recall any thing about any sort of cleaning agents (that I can remember), we also know that pool cleaning chemicals can produce chloroform. Hmmm…
Going with this theory-Maybe George used pool chemicals (he definitely had access) and gasoline (he had access to this too) to clean the stain? Could that account for the unusually high levels of both gasoline and chloroform found in the trunk? Both gasoline and chloroform evaporate pretty quickly…and I thought it was strange that such high levels were found in the trunk almost a month or so after the fact.
Im consulting with an Industrial chemist for a piece I am working on in this regard, so I am not prepared to go into specifics, but in the FBI report the Serologist specifically tells SA Savage the stain can be from a cleaner or detergent.
B