Morgan Harrington Case: Virginia State Police On New Search
Charlottesville, VA– Virginia State Police are searching an area of route 64, between mile markers 112 and 114 today in their efforts to locate missing VT student, Morgan Harrington.
Located approximately 4 miles west of Charlottesville, VA, the stretch of highway leads up to an early area of interest, Crozet, VA.
VSP PR Manager, Connie Geller says the area is not being searched based on any new tip.
Check back to blinkoncrime.com for this developing story.
Update #1. Jim Hanchett, Newsplex, reports the search has ended for this area today, and is awaiting any news of other possible search areas.
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Hi, All — been catching up reading on this new thread — still and always amazed by the research and thought processes of everyone — a couple of things bother me — in my 20′s, I certainly knew people, usually in a professional capacity that melded sometimes socially, w/ 40 y/os, but in my late 30′s, early 40′s, I enjoyed social interactions w/ the 20 y/os, usually my friends children and usually at holiday/family gatherings, but had no desire to socialize and/or party w/ that age group, so I’m not getting the “HH” partying w/ the college-age crowd unless it was for business — but I absolutely toss my hat in w/ Blink that anyone who provides drugs, alcohol and cigarettes to underage people should be prosecuted. In the Richmond area prom season of ’09, several parents were charged when they held an after-prom party at their residence and provided alcohol — the difficult part for me was that they didn’t see anything wrong w/ it because the kids were “locked in” and couldn’t drive – hello ? I won’t go there, but I stand firm w/ Blink on that one.
The second point I’d like to make, especially for people who have driving-aged children, my ins. company — I’ll give ‘em a shout out, because they have come thru for me, Allstate has the Allstate Motor Club — it’s like $13 a month — you get free response, free towing if necessary — ie, lost keys, break down. When you call them, the first question they ask you: are you in a safe location — I know this because my car broke — the catalytic converter “exploded” and knocked a hole in a valve cover — $1400 to repair and 1,000 miles out of warranty — the warranty expires at 80,000 miles –if your car is near that mileage, have the thing ck’d or replaced — anyway, my son was driving when it happened, and they towed the car twice — for free — when he called me, he was absolutely terrified — because of the “explosion” and the car began to violently shake — tow truck there in under 20 mins. On a Sunday. Sad part, the car will not be ready by christmas and he lives an hour away — sniff sniff — no boy home for Christmas — first time ever — he’s under 21, I can’t rent him a car. I told him today that we can absolutely do christmas as soon as the car is repaired — waiting for part and I know he is safe — unlike the poor Harringtons — but if you are a parent, a grandparent, an aunt, uncle, friend, etc. — I don’t think you have to have allstate to use their service or any roadside assistance company — the Allstate Number is programmed in my son’s cell phone — we don’t know what happened w/ Morgan’s car, but if she’d had a roadside assistance, they may have been able to unlock her car and the person on the other end would have asked her: are you in a safe location, maybe advised her where to go — I don’t drink coffee, but 13 bucks is three cups of Starbucks and buys a lot of peace of mind. My son who is perpetually broke would not have had $50 to pay under our normal allstate policy for the tow truck had he not been able to reach me — one time the keys got locked in at a Wal-mart and they came — if it was 2 AM and he was stuck somewhere, they would come — and he was authorized under the program that any car he was in, if they break down, he can all them directly — without having to notify me first — and they will come — so if he’s sneaking into the city to go to one of those hooka bars (the kind w/ the turkish smoking machines, not the girls — ha) and locks the keys in the car, he has a safety net (because they will tow it to your home if you request it) — I also upgraded and changed his cell plan to something called “Frawg” under ntelos for Christmas — he gets unlimited call and text and data for $50 a month — it’s a pre-paid phone w/ an upgraded phone — I wanted to ensure he can always call — I paid his phone service in advance for the next six months as part of his Christmas present, which was more a present to me than to him.
I think, sadly, time will bear out that Morgan has given her life for this horrible situation. To honor her life and the grief of her parents, we have to learn all we can from this, to prevent it from happening in the future to our children, and all children.
I have been a single parent since I was pregnant. My child’s father walked out on us, which meant that I got 100 % of all the joy that comes with babies who grow into adorable young children — it also meant that I got 100 % of all the difficult parenting years after age 8, when they begin to assert their independence. The advice I always received from friends w/ older children was to “pick your battles.” I never knew what that meant. when they’re five, you stick ‘em in time out — there’s no pain there — when they’re 15 it’s an entirely different story — they throw the “you don’t trust me” line at you every chance they get — figure out in your own mind what is a deal breaker, and stick to your guns, then be flexible on the rest — I hate quoting Dr. Phil, because sometimes I think he is a pompous ass, but sometimes he makes a lot of sense — if your kid fails — make it clear that they have to earn/regain your trust by being where they say they are going to be and doing what they say they are doing — if that means they have to call in and report every 30 mins., then they have to call in and report every 30 mins. — period
mmy child threw multiple temper tantrums about not being able to drive to that concert — my mother’s intuition started buzzing the second I purchased the tickets — he even told the kid that went with us the night before the concert that he was going to try to “con his mom” into letting him drive — I’ve given in a lot when I shouldn’t, but on that one I stood firm — he, too, wanted to go to bonaroo when he was 16 and 17 — I said no on that one, as well — he sulked and was mad for a long time — I didn’t care — that was not a place for an unsupervised 16 y/o, and I sure as hell wasn’t going —
I don’t mean to sound preachy, but please if you don’t have it, sign up for one of the motorclubs that offer free towing and free response and put your kid’s name on the card — we got two people under the one membership, so I don’t know the cost if you want all your children and spouse, but it’s certainly worth it. We have to learn from this horrible tragedy w/ Morgan.
although if I’m going to continue participating and reading the posts in this forum, I’m going to have to invest in depends for adults — I almost wet my pants laughing when Blink said to one guy he might expect a visit from the “po po” and then, I think it was suz, talking gangsta — : )
and, dear Observer, you are a much better mom than me — digging a path for your puppy to tinkle — my poor dog, I just let her outside to fend for herself — the snow was above her tummy and then trying to “squat” — and she’s a border collie, but only a baby a year old, when she runs she literally jumps, but jumping thru the snow was a riot —
I hung an angel on my tree for Morgan, and one for our lost dog and my cat who disappeared — last year, a family in my old neighborhood had a single candle in their window w/ a blue bulb for their son in Iraq, which they kept burning in the window way past christmas. I was so delighted to see the bulb changed to clear and the yellow ribbons removed from their trees — maybe we can all have a blue bulb candle for Morgan —
and one last thing, I keep thinking about driving over the Copeley bridge that night — and I still cannot fathom why she would have headed in that direction — it was so far from JPJ — and the road is so desolate — at least that night — and I’m so embarrassed over my directional skills — or lack thereof — but there’s a stoplight at the intersection of Copeley and Ivy and a Wachovia on the corner, and I think the reason I kept going there, I think I thought that was the bank we stopped at the ATM prior to the concert — it was not — and I did it twice — and turned around on that road twice — afer you cross the bridge heading toward jpj (I didn’t realize had I gone straight that’s where I would have ended up), but the road curves to the right, and kind of splits off to the left, if i recall correctly — i actually pulled over on the shoulder and turned around knowing I was going wrong — and when I ended up on that same bridge again, I did the same manuever — did a U-turn at that section where it veers to the right — no one was on the road walking, and certainly not HH’g when I was there — from the restructured time line I did, I’m thinking I must have been there around 9:20 and 9:25 — literally just missing her if she was on that bridge — but if she was going to the EconoLodge party — then she wouldn’t have walked to the U-hall fields, she would have come out of JPJ and turned left on the sidewalk and walked toward the EconoLodge — from my recollection. Localgirl and Observer can verify that — plus it was so dark that night — another one of those unanswered questions: why did she go off in that direction ????
Peace to all; sorry about this too long post — it’s now 10:30 standard time — the same time of Morgan’s last alleged sighting at 9:30 daylight time — I always pray two prayers — one for her, her parents and loved ones — the other that the person who has knowledge of what happened cannot rest until he confesses all —
And Blink, just really off topic — you make me smile with your cheese comments — the power of cheese, indeed !!
PS: J2K, I adore you, as well — I love your posts !! What an intelligent, thought-provoking and caring group of people who have come together because we all care for this stranger and her family — It is absolutely the true spirit of this blessed holy season of Christmas and Hanika (sorry about the spelling) and all others who participate in this time of year — like Kwanza (again, sp) –
blessings to all, Sky
LL-
Can you post the mutual classmate name here, I will keep it private, it may help me answer your question.
B
Momof3,
I know we have rehashed this before, but just for clarification please Momof3, What was the name of Morgan’s roomate? Also, Morgan’s roomate did attend the concert, correct? Was this the friend that the BF drove?
I do believe that Roxy is friend or a friend of Morgans, knows the drill and her circle. OYE is in further deep with Morgan. I thought that Blink said that OYE was NOT Amy M. If we can get these things clarified, i will post, however, Momof3, I think me and you are on the same page. “Get off my wave length momof3.” So, just kidding….. Actually, it is kinda fun mind surfing on the same wave length via cyber. OYE is in Roxy’s post? What do you think?
#448 Momof3, it’s interesting you think OYE may be Chelsea. Once I learned OYE was in the pic above, I figured she was one of the two unnamed friends. I could be wrong, but based on the posts between her and Blink, I began to wonder if OYE may be Ramona.
MJH
I think you got the impression that Dee was escorted out from that one news channel and (I cant find the link now) but they reported a blond woman being “Agressivly Escorted” out. After viewing the video of Dee she was being (escorted out) at the end of the concert by her boyfriend and 3 other male friends (Not by Security) and (Not Agressively Either). Confirmed by Dee and also by one of the male friends. All 4 males appeared to be dressed in black t-shirts.
Momof3,
I know we have rehashed this before, but just for clarification please Momof3, What was the name of Morgan’s roomate? Also, Morgan’s roomate did attend the concert, correct? Was this the friend that the BF drove?
I do believe that Roxy is friend or a friend of Morgans, knows the drill and her circle. OYE is in further deep with Morgan. I thought that Blink said that OYE was NOT Amy M. If we can get these things clarified, i will post, however, Momof3, I think me and you are on the same page. “Get off my wave length momof3.” So, just kidding….. Actually, it is kinda fun mind surfing on the same wave length via cyber. OYE is in Roxy’s post? What do you think?
# Comment by belleboyd — December 21, 2009 @ 10:31 pm
from belleboyd:
“wpgmouse #423 – After watching the video of a blond woman being “escorted” I assumed she was being “escorted” out of the venue by security. I did not see any black ball that she was supposedly carrying.
I am trying to find the exact video which I had viewed so that I can post it.
My thoughts are that MH never entered the venue therefore viewing the interview of DS would perhaps eliminate the idea of MH falling and injuring herself. Then again, the interview of DS was several days or so after MH disappearing and if there was a wound on DS it could have healed by then. IMHO”
Evening, belleboyd
Much thanks for replying. The video you saw of possibly DS being escorted, do you recall which band was on stage at the time.
If you locate the video interview with DS, that would be great.
mkm-
Some NorthernPole fromage to you.
B
Comment by katts — December 21, 2009 @ 10:30 pm
“What happenedd with the “Granny” sighting;the parking lot arguement?
Discounted ? Somewhere I remember her describing the associated vehicle as an older model van.
Could someone have borrowed the “Dye-tie” van to save a distressed damsel? Older model/style, being dark the new paint most likely would have been overlooked
Or am Ijust wayyyy behind”
katts,
The “new paint” and “associated vehicle/older model van” – - I must have missed this along the way. Could you expand a little.
I stand corrected Chad, I think perhaps you are right.(sorry Chelsea) I interpreted Blink’s comment *-”Amy Melvin, Morgan, un-named, un-named and Chelsea Groggins.”B *-
as Blink knew who 2 of the people in the pic were. Now, going over it, perhaps unnamed meant- not for you to know, But Blink knows, instead of I don’t know who the unnamed are.-
Also, rereading OYE’S posts, she does come off as older, except for the fact that if she is Romona, in my opinion it makes the whole thing worse. As she is CLEARLY an adult, who would be carrying around a great deal of negativity for Morgan, and not so much her friends or even for a potential BG almost going as far as blaming the whole disappearance regardless of what happened on Morgan.
Morgan’s roommate who went to the concert, was Amy Melvin, she has an older sister, Amanda Melvin who is quoted in this article, from Tuesday October 20. At this point the friends hadn’t come forward with what is known now. Check out all the misinformation given..
http://roanoke.com/news/nrv/wb/223121
Here’s to being on the same wavelength- await your post. PS yes Blink said NOT Amy M
#454 Swiss Miss,
yes, I have come around to your way of thinking. See my post to Chad, as the first part was meant for you too, my apologies. Thanks for making me think.
Blink, can you tell us if you know who is in the pic and whether not OYE is Romona or the other unnamed girl, possibly Amanda Melvin?
If your referring to the pic where Morgan appears pale, I do not believe the girl on the far left is Ramona T. Amy is to Morgan’s right.
B
Skyler, Thank you for your post. Thank you for the advice. I am sorry to hear about your son’s car. I wish you a merry and safe Holiday when ever you decide to celebrate. Happy Holidays to all, and may the Harrington’s remain strong and find peace.
Swiss Miss,
I too thought that OYE is Ramona, but Blink never said that is the picture she is refering to. Blink is sneaky, she never makes it easy.
So Blink, I have a bad headache and to tired to think. Why don’t you just tell us what you know. Just this one time.
OYE, where are you we would love to hear your thoughts. Do you have any more hints to give?
You already know the answer to that.
B
Blink, did you see post #452? Did you mean to post?
Grrr. What would I do without you?
ATTN EVERYONE: If you send a post that is to be kept private ( and please be clear on the reason to keep it same) you will need to post in caps your top line:
PRIVATE FOR BLINK or DO NOT POST.
Otherwise, I may miss it.
Tia
B
# 59 Comment by Counselor4u — December 17, 2009 @ 2:58 am
From FB “Please help with finding Morgan Dana Harrington. Please.”
In this photo: Amelia Janel Melvin, Morgan Harrington, Sara Turner, Ramona Turpin, Chelsea Stuart Groggins
Added by Sara Turner from the album “I FOUND THIS PIC WITH MORGAN HARRINGTON FROM CAMPING LAST YEAR”
Sorry Blink, found the names of the un-named disregard lst question- except is OYE younger or older?
Hi Blink,
I posted before, but I haven’t seen my post show up on the site yet. The point of my post was that, you know how there are bad strains of heroin? Perhaps there is a bad strain of the date rape drug, making whoever takes it act violent, crazy, and confused. I know it’s out there, but I’m just surprised to hear two cases so close in similarity, so close in time. I wonder if there are more…?
Maya, it was a bit graphic. If I had posted that ( and I have it if I change my mind) I can promise you everyone on here would have thought you had inside info, which I know was not your intent. Your point in this comment is valid.
B
http://www.facebook.com/wall.php?id=161409341318&page=64&hash=cafadb38686452d9b31e43bb4e25d2d9#/wall.php?id=161409341318&page=66&hash=2c4fb3cec13e881811486283fe12ca23
Leslie Carlson (JMU) wrote
at 12:14am on October 21st, 2009
Police reports say that she was separated from friends shortly before 9pm and that she was going outside and was thought to be returning shortly. I arrived at the JPJ around 9pm and witnessed a girl who fits her description leaving the arena. I am not positive I can recall what she was wearing, just that I remember black and high heels. The girl that I saw was extremely intoxicated and by herself. I also witnessed her drop her purse several times, and police reports say it was found along with her cell phone outside the JPJ. I do not want to make assumptions on the very little evidence I have, but if one of her friends that was with her that night sees this and is willing to discuss if alcohol was involved, my report may be helpful. I do not know where she headed after leaving the arena, however. Just that she had a spat with the female security guard working the door. I will call the police hotline and tell them what I know in the morning.
Just wondering. Why does everyone think OYE is in the above picture? And why are people arguing with her? Do you guys not think she has insider information? If you think she is in the above picture I would think you would want to pick her brain. I am not being sarcastic. I am just wondering what I missed?
Could it be? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEdzatS0lLg
That is not Morgan. I have seen a better lit version of that.
B
I think I figured out who OpenYourEyes is. I find myself screaming her handle every time I see this pic.
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=9576645&op=4&o=global&view=global&subj=162224546575&id=505480153#/photo.php?pid=9576645&op=4&o=global&view=global&subj=162224546575&id=505480153&fbid=289009860153
..know what I mean?!?
OnASeriousNote though, the time and effort expended by those on this board to ensure that every stone will be turned in order to find this young girl is her parents salvation, I know. How blessed are they in such hopelessness to have people like you who are committed to bringing their child home…
…emotions take over.
Can someone name the girls for me in the above photo, left to right? I know which one is Morgan, but that’s it. Thanks.
I have always had a hard time believing that Morgan was kicked out of the arena…my mom didn’t even buy it when she first heard about her disappearance. The public silence by the security firm has left me wondering…but it is honestly very hard to get kicked out. You either have to be fall-down drunk, in which case they take you to the ems people…we’ve known highschoolers who’ve ended up in the ER. Or you have to be drunk and beligerant, in which case they’ll handcuff you and put you in a waiting police van. If they DID kick Morgan out, I have a hard time believing that one person could have gotten away with putting her outside on her own…the place is covered with security, and volunteers who are at most of the concerts and games. Men and women, some older and all very nice. A woman would know not to force her out on her own. This is not the Meadowlands or another huge city venue, there is still a small-town feel around JPJ.
Onaseriousnote, You are brilliant!
OnASeriousNote,
If that is OYE, I would be VERY shocked. I see how you can think it’s her, but from my experience, that is not her persona at all, and she is one of the most genuine of the group, And, iirc, Blink said she’s in the picture at the beginning of this thread?
I just want to say that this site is the best. Blink you keep everyone in line. I was bouncing from site to site to find what I could and your site by far is the best with the most caring and faithful people I have ever had the pleasure to “read”. BTW I hardly bounce at all any more, my eyes are glued here…lol
I do have to say I get lost in the convo’s ALOT….my mind does not work like all of yours, until you post something and then I can say “oh yeah”
I do have some observations: Its been mentioned before that possibly Morgan never entered the venue, can you clarify that? Is there video of her actually going into the venue? The reason I ask is I have been wondering for awhile if along the way to the venue there was a party and maybe Morgan got really drunk/high and when they got to the venue she was left in the car to sleep it off. Possibly one of the friends had her ticket and the no-name BF used it instead. Which if Morgan then woke up and tried to get into the venue or have them bring her ticket to her, there would be no ticket. (Sorry if this has been touched on, I am sure it has but i seem to have missed it somehow)
Another thing I have been tossing around…could Morgan have called a girlfriend before the concert and said “this is what i am wearing” and the girlfriend(s) (with bad intentions) wore something similar to throw everyone off on all these sitings? It was stated somewhere that DS wore something similar to leggens that looked like she was wearing boots…but then how did the dogs pick up Morgans scent….
Forgive me my mind is just wanting to find Morgan so bad….I can’t seem to do anything but go in circles….
re: Who is OYE
The “male friend” in the car is the boyfriend of a friend who was not in the car.
Sarah S. and Amy M. were both in the car, so he is not their boyfriend.
We know OYE is in the above photo:
Comment by wpgmouse — December 17, 2009 @ 7:23 pm
mary:
“If OYE a.k.a. A’HO has something to say, why doesn’t he just get it off his self-important, puffed up chest? Man, he pi$$es me off!”
reply by Blink:
“Lol, down Mary. It is by design. Maybe she doesn’t like how she looks in that pic.
B”
response from mouse:
OPEN YOUR EYES is a she, and in this photo.
We know OYE is not Sarah, because Sarah is not in the above photo. We know Amy is not OYE because:
Comment by Swiss Miss — December 19, 2009 @ 5:22 pm
“Blink, do you know if the mystery guy who rode to C’Ville from JMU with Morgan, et al. attends JMU, lives in Harrisonburg and may/may not attend another college, or if his girlfriend attends JMU? I ask because I can’t figure out any other reason he would have been in the JMU area to get a ride. TIA.”
“Yes. JMU
Comment by wpgmouse — December 19, 2009 @ 5:47 pm
“So, I guess OPEN is not Amy M.”
“No
B”
So that leaves (from the above photo, in order after Morgan)
Sara Turner, Ramona Turpin, Chelsea Groggins.
Blinks comments that the male in the car is JMU. I believe the boyfriend of Sara does not attend JMU.
That now leaves Ramona Turpin or Chelsea Groggins.
comment from Dar
“It was stated somewhere that DS wore something similar to leggens that looked like she was wearing boots…”
Dar, just wanted to clarify that last night on this site, I suggested leg warmers only as a possibility if the witness account is accurate that the blonde girl with the males was wearing “over the knee boots”. Unless you read somewhere else about leg warmers …
Comment by Swiss Miss — December 19, 2009 @ 5:22 pm
“Blink, do you know if the mystery guy who rode to C’Ville from JMU with Morgan, et al. attends JMU, lives in Harrisonburg and may/may not attend another college, or if his girlfriend attends JMU? I ask because I can’t figure out any other reason he would have been in the JMU area to get a ride. TIA.”
“Yes. JMU
B”
Male driver
B
Good Morning, Blink.
Blink, when you answered “Yes. JMU” did you mean the boyfriend, the girlfriend, or both?
Good morning all! Lot’s of topics happening here. My mind can’t keep up! I’m thought stacking, need to take one at a time. For now, I’m posting/ focusing on Roxy’s post. Sorry for the length:
IMO, and I have stated this before, I believe that Roxy knows Morgan. I say this because there are too many “snippets” throughout her post that lend itself to her familairity of Morgan’s personality. Although her intent was to be be generic and hypethitical in her writing form in her post, I believe that a person that did not know Morgan could have written that post. For further credibilty to my belief, Roxy describes the roomate situation, she speaks of tensions, store clerks, etc…..she also describes Morgan as having manners with executing a phone call/ text. I could not have written that post, and I consider myself somewhat creative. That being said, there are several parts of her post I would like your opinions on. (Momof3, luvblink, Onaseriousnote, Mosiac anyone, please feel free comment)
One currunt topic is OYE. I’ll get back to that in a minute, but I wanted to get your opinions on this particular snippet from Roxy’s post:
“Even going as far out to say this person may have had visible marks others thought were odd even when explained. Almost like the degree of injury didn’t fit the excuse or reason”
Momof3, – In reading this portion of Roxy’s post, I find this interesting, (as well as other parts of her post, and perhaps revealing.) In going with the assumption that Roxy knows Morgan, my take is that Roxy summarizes that night Oct 17th, and also provides background information prior to the 17th. Perhaps “someone” in Morgans group had “injuries” on their face,( in an altercation, or struggle with someone) and perhaps tried to *****explain it away to the group with an explanation that didn’t fit the injuries. ****
An additional point to Roxy’s post, Roxy appears to be talking about and directs her story towards “one” individual throughout in her post.
(how far out in left field did I go? ) I would ask that you read Roxy’s post again through the lens of Roxy and Morgan being friends.
(Back to OYE)- Thank you onaseriousnote, Momof3- IMO, I believe that OYE is one of Morgans circle, because OYE displays strong emotions, and opinions about Morgan, and indirectly at times at us. Some type of (Although tension, and neagtive) relationship has to exist between OYE and Morgan for OYE to have these feelings. Make sense?
No, I do not feel that OYE is older. OYE perhaps is chronologically displaying her age, by her writing.
Both Roxy and OYE I believe have ties to Morgan. One more than the other.
This is just crazy!! Morgan is consuming my mind and my time and yet I can’t help it. I keep thinking about this lovely young woman and her parents and it really hits me right in the heart.
I wish we could simply wish her to be found. Too bad it doesn’t work that way.
My own frustration level is sky high over this.
I FEAR THAT SHE IS ALIVE, BEING HELD, AND THAT ENOUGH IS NOT BEING DONE TO FIND HER.
Even though most believe she is no longer with us, she might be!! Yet, everything is being kept quiet, pulic is loosing interest, eveidence is being compromised and her life may be at stake.
Somebody knows something. Somewhere is the clue that could open the case. The key lies within the circle of friends and/or the drive that night. Have these “kids” outsmarted LE? Come on….
HAS THE HARRINGTONS HIRED A PI? If I feel this way, how must her parents feel? Her loved one?
Momof3
Thanks again for bringing this to our attention. I woukld like to explore other snippets of this post as well.
An additional point of OYE, what is your definition of older? My definition would be 40 or over. (I guess that makes me old!) However, if she is older, just based on her writing here, I would consider very immature for her age.
I personally believe she is around Morgans age if i work my theory. Anyone think OYE ws at the concert?
Re: #476 Comment by Chad — December 22, 2009 @ 11:22 am
Chad,
In response to Roxy’s comment: “Even going as far out to say this person may have had visible marks others thought were odd even when explained. Almost like the degree of injury didn’t fit the excuse or reason”
I read this two ways:
1.) That after Morgan’s disappearance on of the friends or friends’ boyfriends had a visible injury (or several)…which is something frequently seen after attacks, murders, etc. The victim attempts to defend him or herself, thus inflicting wounds of varying degree to the attacker.
2.) That perhaps prior to Morgan’s disappearance one of the friends in the group may have, on at least one occasion, had injuries that didn’t seem to fit with her explanation of how she got them… indicating that she may have had an abusive boyfriend. Battered women (and even abused children) will make up excuses to explain their injuries… falling down, walking into a door, whatever. Could this indicate that there was a boyfriend in this mix who had a temper and a history of harming women? If so, perhaps he is more likely to have brought harm to a friend of his girlfriend?
Anyway, I just wanted to throw my reading of that remark out there for you to consider. What do you think about that, Chad?
I’m going to go back now and re-read Roxy’s post to see if there is anything more I see in it.
Blink- What would you do with out me… Well, if I had to guess I’d say alot less reading of sometimes too long posts!
jpo, We were not arguing with OYE. We were trying to find out why she believed the things she said were “facts.” She never said she was a friend of Morgan’s. She said she heard some things. She was confrontational to many, and quite judgmental IMO to Morgan. Yes, she may have had inside info, at least to the point of the dynamics of Morgan’s circle and what they believed happened.
Once she was outed as a possible friend to Morgan and not someone just giving an opinion, she no longer posted. Her last post though was to say that the photo on this article is photoshopped and she had no idea where it was taken. Well, the photo was taken at the music festival, and no one can find evidence that it was photoshopped. Last, OYE is in this photo, so if she was being straight with us she would have had alot of info regarding the pic.Yes, now that we know she in fact knew Morgan it would be nice to ask her some questions. IMO I don’t think she was here to share information……
Why?
How does Ramona fit into the music scene does she also date a musician? I know Sara Turner does, as well Jen Mcdaniel… So Sara Turner is friends with Morgan and Sarah Snead but where does Ramona fit into this puzzle?
http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-30376-Private-Investigations-Examiner~y2009m12d22-Help-find-Morgan-Harrington-missing-young-Virginia-woman
New article/series about Morgan
Possible new info!!
“At noon on October 17, 2009 Morgan and her roommate, Amy, left Roanoke in her 2006 Honda to travel 90 minutes north on I-81 to James Madison University (JMU). At JMU, Morgan and Amy met up with Sarah and Dan (a friend’s BF) to travel 60 minutes east to Charlottesville, Va. Dan was the designated driver of Morgan’s vehicle. The group arrived in Charlottesville at 6:00 pm where they were to attend the Metallica concert at the John Paul Jones Arena.”
“Morgan told her friends she would find a ride home or call a friend. No other phone calls were recorded. However, during this time she also texted a male friend in a town 60 miles away. That individual has been excluded as a person of interest in this case by the Virginia State Police.”
From: http://www.findmorgan.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1492
I also wanted to ask Blink, or the rest of the crew, a question(s) about Shannon, whom I’ve been talking about recently.
So we’ve determined that Shannon was a bouncer at Wild Wings in Roanoke, that he owns and operates a paving company that does a shoddy job and has terrible customer service/relations, that said paving company employs a convicted rapist, and that Shannon himself has a suspended license, marijuana charges, and some charge of brandishing a hand gun. Oh, and he has a massive amount of girls– many of them blond and young, on his Facebook page. He also has links to the “music” scene as he is friends on FB with Selena Gomez, Demi Lovato, Miley Cyrus, and Avril Levine (the first 3 singers are 17 year old Disney stars and the 4th is in her 20s but plays for the tween-crowd).
1.) Given all of the above I still don’t understand why he had the “thin blue line” symbol as his profile photo on his Facebook account. [To me this indicates that as a bouncer he sees himself as law enforcement...which is what I initially read into it... false law enforcement; OR is sort of a joke given that he has a criminal record-- though this seems implausible because some of the friends of friends with the "thin blue line" symbol appear to be real LE?]
2.) The convicted rapist that is employed by Shannon’s paving company is only 24 years old. I’m wondering if they went to high school together or something? I feel like that relationship is a bit odd. That (if friends from HS or prior) Shannon stuck by this dude after his conviction.
3.) Web sleuths… can anyone dig up a connection between Shannon Guy McDaniel and Jen McDaniel… aside from simply being friends on FB? I want to know if they are family and if so, in what relation?
New article (GOOD) in summarizing the FACTS…http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-30376-Private-Investigations-Examiner~y2009m12d22-Help-find-Morgan-Harrington-missing-young-Virginia-woman
In response to questions regarding Ramona Turpin’s age, she is 23 yrs. old.
MySpace Profile for Ramona Turpin: http://www.myspace.com/iamyourruka
Chad, counselor named the people in the photo:
From FB “Please help with finding Morgan Dana Harrington. Please.”
In this photo: Amelia Janel Melvin, Morgan Harrington, Sara Turner, Ramona Turpin, Chelsea Stuart Groggins
Added by Sara Turner from the album “I FOUND THIS PIC WITH MORGAN HARRINGTON FROM CAMPING LAST YEAR”
Blink said OYE is in this photo and that it is NOT Amy M., That leaves
Sara, Ramona and Chelsea. I don’t know if it is Ramona, but she is older, she hangs with younger people could she be immature, yes. Yet, rereading OYE’s posts, again, yes, she does seem a “prickly pear” to borrow Blink’s words, the way Blink interacted with her leads me to believe she is Morgan’s age not Ramona’s- hence Blink’s comment (para) -There was a time I was a know it all then I grew out of it-
Thoughts?
Why doesn’t Blink just confirm who she is then? Why are there so many posts wondering if she is in the pic and who she is in the pic? I did notice that she stopped posting though. I must not be seeing all her posts. Are they under a different article? The one about Nelson?
merrykrismouse, could you expand on how you eliminated Sara as OYE i am not following the whole b-friend issue. TIA
Chad,
OYE is one of Morgan’s circle and is around the same age as Morgan.
She is in the above photo.
Comment by Momof3 — December 22, 2009 @ 1:17 am:
[#454 Swiss Miss, yes, I have come around to your way of thinking. See my post to Chad, as the first part was meant for you too, my apologies. Thanks for making me think.
Blink, can you tell us if you know who is in the pic and whether not OYE is Romona or the other unnamed girl, possibly Amanda Melvin?
If your referring to the pic where Morgan appears pale, I do not believe the girl on the far left is Ramona T. Amy is to Morgan’s right. B]
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Momof3: The young lady on the far left is another friend of Morgan’s, Rachel Lafaye.
The photo above, posted by Wayne Townsend at the ‘Help Find Morgan Dana Harrington’ Facebook page was taken from the ‘Please Help With Finding Morgan Dana Harrington. Please’ Facebook page, which has a caption listing the names:
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=161409341318#/photo.php?pid=30010217&o=all&op=1&view=all&subj=161409341318&aid=-1&id=1569960021&oid=161409341318&fbid=1002563435590
i am going to follow this til morgan is found,and after, but i dont do facebook or myspace .And without a good direction (why did she leave ,where was she going, who?) its hard to speculate,you guys are amazing. i just have the hardest time believing that someone in this group is capable of murder,a related person,yes,but then how can none of the friends figure out the relation.if a violent or obsessive person was related to my circle,i would count on and know that my friends would be POINTING the finger,not protecting,weird.i want a poi,detained,questioned,or suspected.
Comment by merrykrismouse — December 22, 2009 @ 11:08 am
comment from Dar
“It was stated somewhere that DS wore something similar to leggens that looked like she was wearing boots…”
Sorry the word maybe was suppose to be in there….”that maybe DS wore…..” Mind was going faster then the hands…sorry everyone
And i did read that in a theory from someone else awhile back but can’t for the life of me find it now….it was just a theory….NOT FACT
Comment by Christy S. — December 21, 2009 @ 4:31 pm:
[#317 B’s mention of the dogs picking up Morgan’s scent at Wild Wings.
It’s a rumor so far. As far as I can tell it has never been confirmed or denied by LE.]
Correct, no mention from LE. This is a rumor (which may or may not be true) that was posted on the HFMDH/Facebook wall during the weekend of the volunteer search parties.
Comment by RNmom — December 22, 2009 @ 12:14 pm
“How does Ramona fit into the music scene does she also date a musician? I know Sara Turner does, as well Jen Mcdaniel… So Sara Turner is friends with Morgan and Sarah Snead but where does Ramona fit into this puzzle?”
RNmom,
Don’t know about dating a musician, but RT attended this performance by bands Half Moon and Monkey Fuzz, January 2008 in Roanoke.
photo with caption:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/iopaparazzi/3188933395/in/set-72157612410919319/
Chad, BlackPearl, all,
Roxy wrote chronologically, beginning with the frienship living conditions, going home to get away, shopping trip, pay back for previous nights,feeling like a fourth wheel, leaving, tricked ,lured out,ect. I believe she was speaking of the night of the concert when she wrote:
“At some point in the night a relationship had already been established as trust worthy so Morgan thought it was ok for she didn’t have far to go…
I think the phone messages, nylons/boots and necklace will play key roles in this investigation. Also, I think her phone took a picture being her only means of security hence the missing battery/chip. The purse, phone case, coat were tossed and found in an area she was known to be or led to believe after this person returned. Driving distance, to and from, would have been within a certain length of time before anyone noticed. Even going as far out to say this person may have had visible marks others thought were odd even when explained. Almost like the degree of injury didn’t fit the excuse or reason.
Perhaps I read too many crime stories but this seems realistic and makes much more sense to me.
Thanks for the ear Blink.- R ”
I don’t think she knows this injured person necessarily, perhaps she is asking anyone to take notice of their family and friends who may have injuries and may not have a viable excuse.
If she is speaking about a known person, someone Morgan met earlier in the night,then IMO she is outing this person to LE, who read this board. Of course this is all being based on the assumption that Roxy is a friend.
http://www.examiner.com/x-30376-Private-Investigations-Examiner~y2009m12d22-Help-find-Morgan-Harrington-missing-young-Virginia-woman
Dan Harrington’s summary:
At noon on October 17, 2009 Morgan and her roommate, Amy, left Roanoke in her 2006 Honda to travel 90 minutes north on I-81 to James Madison University (JMU). At JMU, Morgan and Amy met up with Sarah and Dan (a friend’s BF) to travel 60 minutes east to Charlottesville, Va. Dan was the designated driver of Morgan’s vehicle. The group arrived in Charlottesville at 6:00 pm where they were to attend the Metallica concert at the John Paul Jones Arena.
Boyfriend finally named!
Is there a POI that works/bounces @ Wild Wings?
#445 Rnmom,
What I took from OYE’s posts was that she believed Morgan was struggling, struggling with a drinking problem. (I DO NOT want to promote this thinking ) If you reread her posts with this thought in mind it will jump out at you. Her friends from the 1st high school tried to help, her parents did not want to see the problem, her new school, she had no friends- I’m not sure why she felt the need to point this out except to maybe feel justified in not remaining friends. See, she was the one at fault, we tried to help, she couldn’t even make new friends because she was sooo- I am not sure of what scene she was supposedly into as OYE never felt the need to enlighten or clarify she dropped what she wanted and only what she wanted dropped.