Morgan Harrington Case: Virginia State Police On New Search

Posted by BOC Staff | Missing Persons,Morgan Harrington | Wednesday 16 December 2009 12:40 pm

Charlottesville, VA– Virginia State Police are searching an area of route 64, between mile markers 112 and 114 today in their efforts to locate missing VT student, Morgan Harrington.

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Located approximately 4 miles west of Charlottesville, VA, the stretch of highway leads up to an early area of interest, Crozet, VA.

VSP PR Manager, Connie Geller says the area is not being searched based on any new tip.

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Check back to blinkoncrime.com for this developing story. 

Update #1. Jim Hanchett, Newsplex, reports the search has ended for this area today, and is awaiting any news of other possible search areas.

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  1. BlackPearl says:

    Chad & Momof3:

    Building on your thought that OYE and Roxy have an insider’s perspective on this situation and/or group of friends…

    In post #479 Chad wrote:

    “An additional point of OYE, what is your definition of older? My definition would be 40 or over. (I guess that makes me old!) However, if she is older, just based on her writing here, I would consider very immature for her age. I personally believe she is around Morgans age if i work my theory. Anyone think OYE was at the concert?”

    I personally get the sense that OYE is older than Morgan and perhaps some of the other girls…this would make me think she was not one of the 9 (also makes me think OYE might be Ramona…Can anyone confirm Ramona’s age?) While OYE doesn’t identify with Morgan on any level, she is very sarcastic and unsympathetic in her descriptions of Morgan’s parents seeing her as their “baby” and calling her naive, etc. Its not that unusual for parents to be overprotective of their children as they leave the nest. Especially if it is a daughter. Was OYE so critical of this because she didn’t like MH, because she was older than MH and couldn’t identify with this issue while the other girls in the 9 could, or could her parents have been totally unconcerned with her transition into adulthood?

    I wanted to look into who OYE might be in a separate post, but can use a supporting snippet I was saving for that post in this one and that is a comment from Blink: “OYE- Last warning. Your behaving like a prickly pear. That is the nice way I put things when your clearly a wanna be Y Gen, like alot of us were, and we knew it all, until we learned we did not know it it all.”

    Blink references Generation Y…. Dates differ but this could be young people born 1974 or after, while another source says its 1982 through 1995. My point is that that gives a hint to a specific age range. OYE wants to be a Gen Y…she wants to be younger… a Gen Y instead of a Gen X.

    Based on my specific opinion, “older” here means old enough to distinguish oneself from the group of 9. So perhaps someone no longer of college age… I say 25-plus, minimum. I guess I would say it could go up to mid-30s. My cousin is in right around 30 and is very immature– I could very much see her writing like OYE. Especially considering that even if OYE is older, she is socializing with younger people and is probably also involved in their culture (TV, movies, texting, vocabulary, etc.)

  2. BlackPearl says:

    And now about who OYE is….

    [Comment from Mary L. #115]
    If OYE a.k.a. A’HO has something to say, why doesn’t he just get it off his self-important, puffed up chest? Man, he pi$$es me off!

    Lol, down Mary. It is by design. Maybe she doesn’t like how she looks in that pic. — B

    My first reaction to this was that of all the girls, the fourth from the right wouldn’t like how she looked in that photo. She looks the most drunk/high. She is wearing a tie dye shirt made by the HH, who has been blasted on here repeatedly, and her belly is hanging out a little bit. She is also holding a party cup…as a student (and even now) I never allowed photos of me with a drink in my hand…but anyway, it is blatant evidence of her activities.

    Add to the equation that she appears to be a bit older than the other girls…surrounding oneself with younger people only accentuates age…not to mention Blink’s post about OYE’s desire to be part of Generation Y (suggesting that she’s not, which would mean she has to be older).

    I think OYE is the 4th from the left (2nd from the Right) who some have identified as Ramona.

  3. Judi says:

    CAN SOMEONE ANSWER WHY, WHY IS LE SO HUSH HUSH IF THEY HAVE NOTHING AS THEY SAY – NO POI OR EVIDENCE OF FOUL PLAY FOR THE MATTER? IF THIS IS THE CASE, EXACTLY WHY ALL THE SECRECY?

    I wish LE would at least release (or someone else in the know would confirm/deny)….

    - Did the dogs pickup her scent at Wild Wings?

    - WHO reportedly seen her hitch-hiking besides UVA BB players and a UVA student?

    - Was there a truck spotted on the bridge (another rumor I heard)

    - What was her relationship with the “9″ as of late?

    - Was there anyone in the circle Morgan was having issues with?

    - Ex’s, any men who were “obsessed” with her, etc….

    - What do the friends say about the plans after the concert, any parties?

    - What did the BB players say?

  4. redly says:

    New article. IDs the first name of the driver — allegedly Dan. This was posted on the findmorgan site.

    http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-30376-Private-Investigations-Examiner~y2009m12d22-Help-find-Morgan-Harrington-missing-young-Virginia-woman

  5. clementine says:

    Examiner.com – December 22, 2009

    Help Find Morgan Harrington, Missing Young Virginia Woman

    Exerpt: [Dan Harrington’s summary: At noon on October 17, 2009 Morgan and her roommate, Amy, left Roanoke in her 2006 Honda to travel 90 minutes north on I-81 to James Madison University (JMU). At JMU, Morgan and Amy met up with Sarah and Dan (a friend’s BF) to travel 60 minutes east to Charlottesville, Va. Dan was the designated driver of Morgan’s vehicle. The group arrived in Charlottesville at 6:00 pm where they were to attend the Metallica concert at the John Paul Jones Arena.]

    http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-30376-Private-Investigations-Examiner~y2009m12d22-Help-find-Morgan-Harrington-missing-young-Virginia-woman

  6. Judi says:

    WE NOW THE NAME OF THE MALE DRIVER – DAN. SO…..are we now able to get more info on him?

  7. redly says:

    also some info about the textee — “However, during this time she also texted a male friend in a town 60 miles away. That individual has been excluded as a person of interest in this case by the Virginia State Police.” Article claims this info comes from Mr. Harrington.

  8. clementine says:

    My post above, is courtesy of Kenny J on Facebook. Here is his post:

    Kenny J: Several weeks ago during one of my massive emails to the media I ran across two ladies that I thought could help keep Morgan’s name out there. They have been featured on Oprah, Dateline, Hardcopy just to name a few. They also have written books and scripts for detective movies if I remember correctly. Ann Flaherty cont…acted me the same day she received my email and said she would love to do several columns on Morgan. I sent the info to Dan and here is the first article that came out today.

    http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-30376-Private-Investigations-Examiner~y2009m12d22-Help-find-Morgan-Harrington-missing-young-Virginia-woman

    There aren’t enough comments yet for me to link directly to his post. If you click on this link to read it there, you’ll have to scroll down a bit.

    http://www.facebook.com/group.php?v=wall&gid=162224546575

  9. merrykrismouse says:

    Well then, Dan it is.

    It is.
    B

  10. mjh says:

    #443 wpgmouse –

    That could be true, but if there is a no re-entry policy, then how would Dee get back in if she was kicked out?

    I did have the chance to watch the video of Dee at the end of the concert, when they were throwing the big black balls into the audience. Either she or one of the guy’s she was with was carrying it out the door with them. So, I know she was definitely inside the arena at the end. Now, maybe she didn’t go into the arena until later, and she still could be the person that was sighted outside. If they were only there to see Metallica, they may have waited until after 9 to go in.

    Hello again SuzeeB –
    I’m sorry, I do not have a link to the “kiss on the cheek” interview. Unfortunately, I am experiencing computer problems, and was unable to locate it. But, I did read it on BOC on an earlier thread. It was apparently an interview with some of the friends early on, and IIRC, Sarah was the one who said she kissed her on the cheek. Which, seemed weird if she was only going to the ladies room.

    I guess no matter how she ended up outside the arena — I still believe that she contacted and got a ride from someone she knew. I do believe her friends know who she was supposed to be with.

    I really never believed she would hitchhike. But, I guess anything is possible.

    I would think whatever her last texts were would be a huge clue in this mystery.

    #451 Sky –
    I absolutely LOVE your idea. I will indeed put a blue candle in my window for Morgan. Maybe I will keep it burning until they ALL come home…Morgan, Tracy Ocasio, Christine Sheddy, little Hayleigh, etc.
    And, of course, in honor of our military men and women also — may they all come home safely.

  11. rabbit19 says:

    BlackPearl,
    Ramona is 23-24 and she dates a band member of Relacksachian.

  12. Judi says:

    You can no longer view Morgan’s facebook friends ?????

  13. alilcurious says:

    Been following this case since the beginning but never posted anywhere.. I felt the need to post now, because I seem to have missed the pocketbook thing.. when and where was it found? what information was in it? Is that the pocketbook that a couple of girls from the facebook found when they went searching by themselves? if so, was LE able to determine what its exact location was?

  14. merrykrismouse says:

    rabbit19

    Thank you. I was just going to post RT’s age for BlackPearl and Chad.

  15. sandyeggo says:

    in that new examiner article Dr. Harrington says that Morgan interacted with 4 bball players. I am still not convinced that ehty were involved in Morgan’s disappearance but this is the first time I’ve seen 4. I thought it was 3.

  16. ohiomom says:

    luvblink and redly, thanks for the link to the Examiner article. I’m so glad they’ve picked this up, and also that “Dan” is named. I wonder if he is the young man with the lawyer?

    The Examiner does a good job of listing all the known information. I note that Dr. H says Morgan spoke to 4 BBall players. Is this the new number?

    Chad, have you ever spoken with the police? Should you tell them about your trips over the bridge in that time-frame and the fact that you saw no one?

    I still wonder if the witnesses who saw her on the bridge are reliable? Also how long after the 17th were the search dogs employed? I have also read several articles debunking the reliability of search dogs. What to believe?

    As I return to wrapping gifts, my heart continues to bleed for the Harringtons. Thanks, again, to Blink and to all who post here trying to move this investigation forward. Morgan, we love you. Please be found.

  17. Chad says:

    BlackPearl, I like the way you think. I would agree with your analyzation. Thank you for posting the blink gen X gen y theory. I’m still not sure of OYE identity though. I was leaning towards another individual, but some posters feel it is Romona. Can anyone tell us what connection Romona to Morgan. We have already established the band connection, but any contributions? If indeed Romona is OYE (I hate to use names) can anyone elaborate as to any insights on this relationship? I want to comment more on your posts, but have to go back to work. Will post and catch up later.

    Comment by merrykrismouse — December 22, 2009 @ 12:46 pm
    Chad,

    OYE is one of Morgan’s circle and is around the same age as Morgan.
    She is in the above photo.

    Merrychristmasmouse: Can you let us know who you think OYE specifically is and why?

    Momof3: Roxy also mentions in her post about a coat being discarded with the purse and cell phone. To my knowledge that has never been public. What do you think about the coat being mentioned?

    Have a good day all! Keep posting, thinking, then post somemore! Jingle jingle…..

  18. merrykrismouse says:

    Morgan’s friends are fairly quiet, and Dee S. and her friends have been completely quiet except for the brief comment by D.S. regarding the JPJ video. Perhaps the male driver Dan is a mutual friend within both circles.

    He is. He is the one Dee S. called to meet up with.
    B

  19. Chad says:

    Ugh……I hate it when I mispell names! My above post should be meerykrismouse! Sorry! Please excuse my mispelling and errors in some of my posts.

  20. merrykrismouse says:

    Comment by Chad:
    “Ugh……I hate it when I mispell names! My above post should be meerykrismouse! Sorry!”

    Chad, lol, you got it right the first time!
    signed, wpgmouse

  21. sue says:

    Blink, am I allowed to post Dan’s last name?

    Also, doubt that his involvement is nefarious in any way, but of course, who knows.

    He goes to JMU, and plays baseball and is from New York. Hope that’s not TMI.

    No, that is correct. Dan Cassagne, I posted a bit more upthread.
    Blinkbiscuits for you and all that came up with his stats so quickly.
    B

  22. merrykrismouse says:

    Chad,
    (okay, you did put a capital M on merry)

    OYE is either Ramona Turpin or Chelsea Groggins. That’s all I know.
    Post #474 explains how I got there.

  23. BlackPearl says:

    Re: #508 Comment by rabbit19 — December 22, 2009 @ 1:54 pm

    BlackPearl, Ramona is 23-24 and she dates a band member of Relacksachian.

    Thank you, Rabbit. So there’s the link between Ramona and the music scene and also to Morgan (aside from the pictures, obviously). So if I remember correctly, Morgan used to have Relacksachian listed on either her FB or Myspace page as being one of her favorite bands.

    This relationship could very well be the type to elicit the kind of remarks OYE posted. She is dating a band member and is in the same local music scene that MH and friends are in. Ramona is “friends” with these girls. Perhaps truly friends with some, but is not part of the “9″. She’s 4 or 5 years older than MH. It wouldn’t surprise me in the least if OYE is Ramona and does NOT like Morgan and/or Morgan and friends coming into her scene. These girls, younger, blond and bubbly are major competition! I remember this attitude being present in college… the guys love the start of the new year when new girls come to campus as freshmen, while the girls hate it because it just means more competition (this ties into girls generally dating guys their age and up versus guys being able to date a few years younger).

    Rabbit, do you know who in Relacksachian Ramona dates?

    When I was re-reading OYE’s posts, I was wondering if (a) OYE was throwing out all that info. about alcohol poisoning to completely throw us off track or (b) might be defending/protecting someone’s actions…someone close to her?

  24. Counselor4u says:

    Cut and pasted from Blink and other forums:

    From: ru_deltasig@yahoogroups.com on behalf of iheartsublime89
    Sent: Mon 11/17/2008 5:41 PM
    To: ru_deltasig@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [ru_deltasig] Please help a brother!
    Dear Brothers,

    As some of you may know I’ve been experiencing a lot of roommate
    issues and last night my roommate became violent with me for the
    second time this year. It’s starting to really negatively effect my
    mental well-being, and I’ve decided I have to move out as soon as
    possible.

    I would really appreciated it if you guys would contact me if you
    know anyone who needs a roommate for the second semester. I do not
    care where I live or with whom as long as it is not a total stranger.
    And of course, my kitten will be moving with me so preferrably a
    place that allows pets but if not I will gladly pay for any fines
    that incur if I sneak her in and get caught.

    Just please someone help me out and ask around to your friends
    because it’s becoming unbearable to live at my current residence.

    Fraternally yours and thanks for your help!

    Charlene Saplak
    540.467.0305
    cmsaplak@radford.edu
    Charlene Saplak

    Here is the quote from a friend found on the FindMorgan site:
    “Unread 12-14-2009, 09:34 PM
    cmsaplak cmsaplak is offline
    Junior Member
    Join Date: Nov 2009
    Location: Roanoke/Radford University
    Posts: 13
    Send a message via AIM to cmsaplak
    Default
    thank you, but you are wasting your time. is morgan was trying to disappear i’m sure she could do it more cleanly with less sightings and “commotion” at JPJ.
    shes my friend and I don’t think she has the capability in her heart to do this.
    i hate to say this but shes either passed on or shes here in some pervs basement. Either way I’m scared as hell of what we will find. shes in serious trouble”.

    http://www.myspace.com/thrashingmetalmaniac88

    http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&
    friendID=3883589&albumID=1070260&imageID=656899#a=1070260&i=2563596

    259-Comment by Swiss Miss — December 19, 2009 @ 5:22 pm
    Blink, do you know if the mystery guy who rode to C’Ville from JMU with Morgan, et al. attends JMU, lives in Harrisonburg and may/may not attend another college, or if his girlfriend attends JMU? I ask because I can’t figure out any other reason he would have been in the JMU area to get a ride. TIA.
    Yes. JMU

    418• Comment by wpgmouse — December 21, 2009 @ 6:41 pm
    comment by RNmom:
    “Ok, so was the unidentified male that rode with the girls to a concert a member of a band? If so, does he also have a complicated relationship with one of the girls in the above photo? Does he also have a studio in his basement? Could it be??? AB?”
    RNmom,
    From the 3 previous comments copied below, Sara Turner is the girlfriend of AB and photographer of his band. I don’t believe AB attends JMU. (anyone please correct me if this is wrong)
    Comment by Georgie — December 18, 2009 @ 3:30 pm:
    (snipped)”…some of the same guys are in at least three different bands, one of which is playing a club in Roanoke sometime soon, and the friends were among 25 or so people to rsvp that they will attend. This group is Half Moon, but the others which share members are Lazy Man Dub Band and Relacksasion. The one guy is VERY attractive in a hippie/crochet hat sort of way, he also has a “complicated relationship” with the band’s photog, according to his FB page…”
    Comment by clementine — December 19, 2009 @ 12:12 am:
    His “complicated relationship” is with the young woman who added the above picture to the ‘Please Help With Finding Morgan Dana Harrington. Please’ Facebook page. She is in the center of the shot, next to Morgan.
    Sara Turner is the girlfriend of AB. AB does not attend JMU.
    http://www.jmutrisigma.com/sisters/

    421• Comment by wpgmouse — December 21, 2009 @ 7:03 pm
    RNmom
    Here is a photo of AB and ST, uploaded on January 11, 2009. I have no idea what their relationship status is now.

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/iopaparazzi/3189781076/in/set-72157612410919319/

    http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?v=wall&ref=sgm&id=1215672569

  25. merrykrismouse says:

    mouse:
    “Morgan’s friends are fairly quiet, and Dee S. and her friends have been completely quiet except for the brief comment by D.S. regarding the JPJ video. Perhaps the male driver Dan is a mutual friend within both circles.”
    Blink:
    “He is. He is the one Dee S. called to meet up with.
    B”

    So Dan is the mutual friend Dee. S. called, plus he attends JMU:

    Comment by Swiss Miss — December 19, 2009 @ 5:22 pm
    “Blink, do you know if the mystery guy who rode to C’Ville from JMU with Morgan, et al. attends JMU, lives in Harrisonburg and may/may not attend another college, or if his girlfriend attends JMU? I ask because I can’t figure out any other reason he would have been in the JMU area to get a ride. TIA.”
    Blink:
    “Yes. JMU
    B”

  26. rabbit19 says:

    Blink,
    DB?

  27. BlackPearl says:

    I need to do work at work too….. ugh!!!

    Blink, can you confirm for me that the Dan that drove the girls to the concert is NOT the Dan that I was looking into earlier? Danny Schmidt? I’m thinking at this point that they are not the same “Dan” but would appreciate it if you would verify that for me so I can follow other trails… TIA

    Re: #509 Comment by merrykrismouse — December 22, 2009 @ 1:49 pm

    Well then, Dan it is.

    It is.
    B

  28. RNmom says:

    So did they keep his name quiet because he plays baseball? Who does he date?

  29. clementine says:

    Blink, Does Dan’s last name start with a ‘C’?

    Have you had a chance to look at the video I posted to you yet?

    Yes, lol. You told me to keep it private.
    B

  30. belleboyd says:

    Would the “Dan” be the “Dan C.?” Would he be the person who played baseball for JMU?

    Yes
    B

  31. jen says:

    So from doing a facebook friend check the driver is Dan Cassagne. Attends JMU and is friends with Sarah Snead and Dee Spolarics. Friends with Morgan and Amy Melvin as well as Chelsea Helm, Jen McDaniel and Maggie Herrick. He is from New York and attends JMU, yet is connected to members of the nine attending various different schools throughout VA. That would lead me to assume he is dating a member of the nine that attends JMU but maybe not. Who is the girlfriend? He is also 6’4. Didn’t one of the sightings say she was with a very tall white guy?

  32. sue says:

    There’s something about Sara Snead that I don’t trust. Just a gut feeling.

  33. BlackPearl says:

    OK, so I hate to post names because I understand that we put people under the microscope and how awful that can be if they are unrelated to this…but it’s the only way to unleash all of Blink’s flying monkeys (or mice, if you prefer) to do their investigating on the internet…so…

    I checked out Dee’s friends on Facebook and there is a Dan Cassagne that attends JMU. Based on his Facebook profile he is friends with Amy Melvin, Sarah Snead, and Jen McDaniel.

    Ding Ding Ding, we have a winner.
    Dan Cassagne, was the driver. He has a brother John who is a teacher in Waynesboro, and his Dad runs the Hedge Fund circuit in NYC. The family is from Suffolk Cty NY. He is the boyfriend of Morgan Nichols, not Sarah Snead, fyi.

    (for anyone taking this to another site, don’t do it if you can’t link it, them’s the rules.)
    B

    Start sniffing this trail, pups… I’ll return in a bit.

  34. playfulg says:

    #500 – Momof3 – I get the impression she is implying it’s drug use, rather than alcohol. I don’t think this age group would ostracize a member for drinking as quickly as heavy drug use. But I mostly think OYE just doesn’t like MH and is trying to make us all think she is at fault for her own disappearance, through her unacceptable behavior. She seems jealous, even down to her moniker – Open Your Eyes.

  35. mag603 says:

    Is it me or do I watch too many crime shows on TV?

    Part of me feels like what happened to Morgan, happened before the concert and Dee S was dressed like Morgan for a reason. Maybe even wearing Morgan’s clothes, purposely dropping the purse etc.

  36. jen says:

    Dan Harrington says the textee was 60 miles away. Distance from JPJ arena to JMU in Harrisonburg: 59.4 miles. Coincidence? Did she try to hitch a ride to JMU? Boyd tavern incident anyone?

  37. Lovely says:

    i am sorry but im finally going to really out myself as stupid here: WHO THE F IS DEE S!?!?!?!

    Is she the girl who looked like Morgan in the video, who everyone thought was Morgan?

    If so, what are the CHANCES that Dee S. and Morgan knew each other IRL? The whole thing is such a huge coincidence right? Maybe thats why I cant wrap my head around it.

    That would be like if I was missing and my “twin” happened to also be at the venue that night too, right?

  38. ross says:

    So, all knowing Blink, why up until now has Dan’s name kept unreleased?

    That’s a very good question. Mr. Harrington had been previously very tight lipped about that. While they only gave a first name, that was all I needed to release it.
    B

  39. alilcurious says:

    Nevermind, figured they’re just talking about the purse, I was thinking a planner like pocket book. My bad!

  40. redly says:

    Lovely — yes she is the girl in the video and did apparently know the dan guy who drove morgan’s group. It is a huge coincidence that she was caught on tape and mixed up with morgan intially. I have to think that there were a lot of young women dressed in all black, minskirts/boots at the concert though. I was in charlottesville the other weekend and saw several girls dressed similarly out and about at the bars.

  41. lizzy says:

    Lovely, I think that might be true for a big-city show. But for a college town, it doesn’t seem that far out to me. Plus, they’re not twinkies; just long-haired blondes in black.

  42. merrykrismouse says:

    Merry Christmas, indeed.

  43. ohiomom says:

    Sounds like Dan C comes from a family of means and connections. They knew enough to get a lawyer pronto, I assume.

  44. OnASeriousNote says:

    I’m sorry, I feel I must disclose…re: #469

    My “thorough investigation” regarding OYE and my subsequent ID was completely tongue-in-cheek, as that pic (and not necessarily related references to OYE’s postings) have inundated the board.

    I should probably consider changing my handle.

    Really, I would never presume my ability to offer anything substantive to this investigation other than my prayers for her and her family and my never ending admiration for those here that are committed to her cause until the moment Morgan is found. Keep up the good work, all.

  45. sue says:

    Blink, I posted that anyone could find this out by using their common sense a while back, remember?

    You yelled at me! LOL. I had to apologize.

    Lol, no, but sounds like me. Do I owe you blink biscuits? It probably was not “ripe” yet.
    I would completely suck if I worked at the Globe.
    B

  46. SuzeeB says:

    There is a missing girl here and everybody is tip toeing around this guy. Dee, Sarah, Amy, perhaps even David Gardner, even the Harringtons. What is going on?

    Where was Morgan Nichols this night?

  47. RNmom says:

    So, is Dan the person that “lawyered up”? Also, is that him in the pic with Morgan at Electric Chameleon’s launch party?

    http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=66687172&albumID=2393547&imageID=38244186#a=2393547&i=38244241

    not Dan

  48. Observer says:

    To Skyler: Just a minor point for (hopefully) clarification, re: the distance between JPJ and Copeley Rd/the bridge: In a couple of posts you mention confusion about why MH might be of a mind to walk “so far” from JPJ to Copeley. Actually, the walk from JPJ to Copeley is a very quick one; that is, it is easy to exit JPJ, walk across the U-Hall parking lot, bringing you right to Copeley Rd. The RV Lot next to Lannigan Field is right off of Copeley, literally feet leading to the Copeley Bridge.

    I share the above only because you mentioned on a few occasions that you are (as am I) “directionally-challenged”. [I've often kidded that I couldn't find my way out of a paper bag, and am sometimes surprised I can find my way home some evenings.] Given that you had gotten turned-around several times on the evening of October 17, 2009, the relationship of the different locations, e.g., JPJ, Copeley, Ivy, RV Lot, U-Hall, Massie Rd., Emmet St. etc. may have been confusing, especially on a rainy night.

    Bottom line: Having walked that area myself innumerable times, I can attest that it is very easy to traverse the JPJ/Copeley Rd. area in a short, i.e., 5-7 min. period of time.

    One, last thought: You’d asked, as well, why MH might have headed toward Copeley/Ivy. Rd. Had she exited the front of JPJ and headed straight, she would have ended-up on Massie Rd. which would have brought her only to the Darden Business School, the School of Law, and eventually the JAG School. There are no businesses in that direction. Heading toward Copeley and Ivy Rds., though, would have brought MH to businesses, e.g., 7-11, the Dragon Lady restaurant, the Ivy Square Shopping Center (inc. the Foods of All Nations grocery store), etc.

    [Note: I'll post the above on the other, more recent MH thread.]

    Hope the above is helpful in some way.

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