Morgan Harrington Case: Virginia State Police On New Search
Charlottesville, VA– Virginia State Police are searching an area of route 64, between mile markers 112 and 114 today in their efforts to locate missing VT student, Morgan Harrington.
Located approximately 4 miles west of Charlottesville, VA, the stretch of highway leads up to an early area of interest, Crozet, VA.
VSP PR Manager, Connie Geller says the area is not being searched based on any new tip.
Check back to blinkoncrime.com for this developing story.
Update #1. Jim Hanchett, Newsplex, reports the search has ended for this area today, and is awaiting any news of other possible search areas.
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And, yet another supposed sighting (found on findmorgan.com forum http://www.findmorgan.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1579)
Per a young lady that went to another concert and engaged a cab driver Morgan was seen on video camera at the 7 11 just over the bridge.
RUMOR! (directly from my cab driver, who was very nice and genuine, I didn’t get the feeling he was just making this up)
*Morgan was seen on the video at the 7 Eleven after crossing the Copley Road Bridge. She purchased something (so, she must have had her purse). He said that many cab drivers were questioned, but he was specifically asked because his car had been seen at the 7 Eleven around the same time as MH had allegedly been seen.
*He also said that the friends she was with, allegedly have told LE that MH was under the influence of alcohol. He didn’t say whether or not LE told him that, or if it was a rumor he had heard. He stated it to me as a fact, I am telling y’all as a rumor.
“Comment by baadbobby — December 29, 2009 @ 4:51 am
I will attempt to clear some things up for the fine folks over here, at the risk of being flamed, as I know there are some trolls in common with this board and findmorgan.com, so I do expect that at least one of them will attempt to have a field day with this post – go for it.”……………
Bobby,
I think this would be better posted on the FindMorgan site, but I can’t post there so here goes. I hope you read it. For the record, I am/was “captkaos” on that site.
I read and respect your views re: constructive, productive posts vs combative flaming, etc. Admittedly, I have not personally added too much to the conversation. I do lurk both sites and I also hope for a quick resolution, although I personally don’t believe it will be a happy conclusion. I contributed my own points early on that I thought were relevant, to both this and FindMorgan. I haven’t posted much else because everything I believe pertaining to this case has already been stated ad nauseum. I personally haven’t made any proactive effort to find Morgan. It doesn’t mean I don’t care, same I’m sure for the countless others who frequent this or any other forum regarding this case.
As for trolls, well, I wouldn’t want nor do I think I deserve that label. I took issue with Bulldog early on, in fact, his unprofessionalism was what inspired me to join FindMorgan in the first place. My initial correspondence there was with Kenny via PM regarding Bulldog’s tactics (ask him about it) and he agreed with me for the most part.
I said what I had to say there on December 11th. I didn’t stick around and “get off” on the ensuing fireworks, as most any troll would by definition. I don’t even know what the outcome was because most of whatever transpired was removed. Just so you understand, I took no issue with you or anyone else there except Bulldog, my goal was not to defile the site but to stick up for the real victims here, the Harringtons. I got banned for that.
As for the current state of things, ie, the speculation of multiple IDs, if you know anything about these type of forums, it’s very common and anything less than meeting in person will NOT cure that speculation. Reading that site now, it’s hard to figure who’s who and a lot of the same “people” seem to constantly hint at PI and psychic intervention, based on seemingly fabricated “leads”. Someone may very well have passed off some inaccurate info that was published here. In the grand scheme of things, the tip made perfect sense, and while they may not be the same person, if they are working in concert, they are just as guilty.
You say you’ve had phone contact with all three. It doesn’t make them good people with good intentions. It might just make you an enabler, sorry to say.
That is all I have to say. I will now permanently retire under my rock. Thank you all for your time. I will lurk with interest and as Blink wishes the issue is dead here for me.
NYCDude
I wish to add something I forgot to address in Bobby’s post-
It is a HUGE problem with a forum or blog for any editor/admin to allow folks to post as they wish, without matching up IP’s. Anyone that reads here can tell you, I do not let 2 posters have the same name, and I always check the back door is locked.
I loathe the concept that an editor/admin can make up posts as “anyone.” I am not suggesting you do this, but there was also a lot of posting and deleting going on there. How can people feel comfortable in that enviornment?
B
If the necklace wasn’t a gift from her brother, are we back to PAVER CREEP? Did her brother agree to say it was from him to keep parents off her back about a much too old boyfriend?
Good Morning All
Blink your post about thinking the necklace possibly wasn’t a gift from her brother made me go back to a wierd little post on facebook the first week Morgan went missing. I know everyone here has read that somewhere because it has come up on different sites from time to time. Anyway this morning I googled and found it on Websleuths, so I don’t know if it can be posted, but anyway here it is:
Facebook MH group led me to Perez Hilton site where the comments section contains some curious posts by one individual in particular.
Here’s the comment thread:
http://perezhilton.com/2009-10-26-me…ng-fan#respond
And here’s the direct link to that particular profile’s latest posts:
http://posse.perezhilton.com/public_…muleshapedpool
The comment on MH’s post is this:
Quote:
this isn’t a game. you know who this is, exactly where he is. surrounded by everything you know. i was so shocked today. i coulnd’t believe u’d think what you did. i did everything to protect you until this weekend when i gave you everyting and i needed two days to get over the fact that i just sent a message to the one person that mattered in the world that’d i’d never think i’d get the chance to. you couldn’t look into my eyes and tell me all these things. why would you think after the sweetest thing i’ve ever done for you that i would want you to hurt. i was just afraid, how gay was i the necklace, the cds, the tears, the poems, why would i disapear to hurt you. you never understood that disapearing meant it was ok
End of quote…
Post if it’s helpful,, if not then just trash it.
Sorry, I’m in such a hurry but have to hit the road by noon. I’ll check back w/ you later.
A great day to all.
Mary and others commenting on Jamil Tucker, I haven’t read here locally that he is no longer attending UVa or that his scholarship has been rescinded. The news release was that he had been dismissed from the team, not that he had left UVa. Often athletes who do get in academic trouble elect to transfer to a less demanding school, or they go to a community college for a semester or two to improve their academic standing and then return to UVa. Since this is Jamil’s last year, he would probably (just my opinion) want to finish out the year at UVa if at all possible. As has been mentioned several times, UVa has more rigid academic standards for athletes than does the NCAA. I also believe that the standards are higher than a number of other ACC schools. Some with more knowledge of UVa’s rules can probably clarify, if a player’s grades no longer qualifies him/her to participate in team sports, would that student be allowed to remain in school assuming he/she was not outright failing their class load. It’s very possible Jamil Tucker is still on grounds, and even if he is not, IF he is in anyway connected with this case, I am sure LE knows of his exact location. My hope and expectation is that all who had any possible association with Morgan on the day/night she disappeared have not been allowed to just quietly fade away, never to be considered again.
With warm cheese croissants, a good morning to you, Blink.
And in return, wpg. I hope your Holidays are joyful and cheesey.
B
Blink, thanks for catching me yet again (bad, mouse).
Blink — absolutely will tune in to the radio show if my computer works — I’ll be honest, tried to do a google image search to put a face w/ your name, but the durn bright light from your halo was blocking the view !! : )
Good Gravy, dont saddle me with the halo thing- I do not qualify, lol.
B
In addition to what J2K is saying about LE capturing any pictures from Oct. 17: I am certainly no expert, so maybe this is a load of blah, but I can think of a reason for LE not releasing those pics.
Pics, as well as discriptions of clothes people involved were wearing, may ‘corrupt’ possible eye witness statements.
As it is hard, even after a short period of time, for any witness to recall exactly in every detail what he/she saw, any eye witness statement is ‘fragile’.
I can imagine the human mind filling blank spots in the memory with info found in pictures and press statements.
Releasing those pictures makes witness statements less reliable. Even in court, I think.
Lizzy, darlin’, thanks for this — we need some levity — I’m stilling laughing out loud — (and considering sending out some faxes, page 2 — ha)
>>That brings me to my point via another Henny Youngman one-liner:
“How to drive a guy crazy: send him a telegram and on the top put ‘page 2.’ ”
<<<
Might I add another post on Perez by MuleShapedPool:
Post 31:
“kid i love you. i think you’re overeacting about two days worth of me just saying let it be. i’m paranoid cuz i couldn’t believe you’d ever love me after all i did. thats all that is its not jealousy its the opposite of jealousy”
I hope I’m not repeating Josie’s post #1004, it’s just that I couldn’t go directly to the link but found this one after using the “search” box.
MsL – thanks for replying regarding Jamil Tucker. I just had the thought he may be more willing to open up about his interaction with Morgan without the glare of the athletic department and/or university to hinder him in any way — IF he is one of the players who did speak with her that night.
Is there evidence/indication that WANNA-BE-PAVER CREEP knew Morgan?
to abi, post 981 >> if any info were released that might support this then everyone would stop looking for Morgan <<<
wow — that knocked me backwards when I read it — “if” Morgan left on her own, and the friends know it, I kept asking why would the Harringtons want them to keep silent — want not to name anyone connected with the case — hypothetically because they don’t know where she is, the friends aren’t talking, but perhaps people would stop looking under that scenario — dr. h is a shrink, he may be playing mind games —
not saying at all that’s what’s happening, but good deductive reasoning !!
Elizabeth, like all the posts I’ve read so far after yours, I, too, felt somehow misled when I learned the H’s were the ones asking friends to be silent –
“I wish to add something I forgot to address in Bobby’s post-
It is a HUGE problem with a forum or blog for any editor/admin to allow folks to post as they wish, without matching up IP’s. Anyone that reads here can tell you, I do not let 2 posters have the same name, and I always check the back door is locked.
I loathe the concept that an editor/admin can make up posts as “anyone.” I am not suggesting you do this, but there was also a lot of posting and deleting going on there. How can people feel comfortable in that enviornment?
B”
Blink, and others, please know that while some inflammatory posts have indeed been removed, findmorgan.com is a new site, with Mods that are new to the world of internet forums. Findmorgan is evolving, the Admins have taken measures to stop the multiple names issue. Contrary to what some disgruntled folk are spewing elsewhere, very few posts have been deleted by Admins, some have come off at the behest LE, some have come off out of respect for the family members. Vulgar and inflammatory posts are not tolerated, nor is the defamation of any other member. Just as any other forum reserves the right, and executes such to keep the board flowing, so do the Admins of findmorgan. I am not an Admin nor a Mod, I call it like I see it. I have read darned near every single post on the board, and the overwhelming majority of posts are positive and meant to be helpful, NON inflammatory.
Some folks hang on your every word over here, please consider that before making public assumptions that are desparaging to a non profit site that was established solely to help a family find their loved one. As before, you have my e-mail, feel free to drop me line.
Bobby
Just an observation: MuleShapedPool means Asshole, right?
I think those posts are just someone being one, and having a laugh saying so right in their name.
O Geeze.
B
Comment by Kriddo — December 29, 2009 @ 12:37 pm
Very good point! I have always believed the LE have all the pictures or videos from that night and letting the public believe there is none.
I am sure that from day 1 LE confiscated all those pics or security cameras.
Alright, some ideas from me before I have to go. I apologize that this is so long…
Re: # 1004 from Josie…we’ve seen this posting from Perez’s site before… it’s intriguing given the new ideas about Morgan’s necklace. I don’t know how much the necklace cost…can any repost a link to info. about the necklace (source, cost, etc.)? I could potentially see her brother buying her a nice necklace– he is gay, works in ney york, is her older brother…they may have been very close and he may have wanted to share the style, glitz of nyc with her. I don’t know his exact line of work, but its also possible, as someone else pointed out on here, that he could have gotten the necklace for free as swag from an event or perhaps at a discounted cost if he did work for the company/designer that makes the necklace. That said I also find it very, very interesting that the necklace could have been given to her by a boyfriend or even by someone who was pursuing her (even if he was unsuccessful). I’d like to know more about the origin of this necklace.
My second point is that I want to voice my agreement that unicorns might very well have been referecing drugs of some sort. I believe (based on friends and cousins actions and musical tastes) that a lot of the music festivals MH and friends were attending, as well as the bands she/they were into, are Jam Bands of some type. Jam Bands are intertwined with drugs…most commonly weed, but also hallucinogens which make the music (aural) and the visuals of lights/lazers/etc. (optical) trippy and more enjoyable. The most well known jam bands include Dave Matthews (a VA native and hugely popular at VTech), Greatful Dead, and Phish. I want to reference photos from Facebook. Of course, I couldn’t go back to them to post links since I think they’ve been taken down or made private. Perhaps Blink can confirm this…or someone else who has taken screen shots. There was one photo which I believe showed Dan C. and another male as well as two girls (I think that these girls were two “best friends” of Rachel who visited to celebrate her 21st birthday). The girls are sitting on a sofa in the foreground, left side of the photo. The caption on Facebook said something about “Rolling” which is a term used to describe being on E or Ecstacy. At the time this stood out to me, but I didn’t bring it up because at the time it seemed irrelevant and I didn’t want to expose behavior of the friends uneccessarily. The second photo (or perhaps set of photos) I thought about in regards to the use of E was from at least one, if not more, of the festivals MH and friends attended where they had lazer or light shows. In my opinion there’s no reason to have this unless people are tripping or rolling and its going to be really “awesome”…otherwise its kind of lame or pointless, imo. Finally, MH also had Bob Marley posters on her wall. In context, it seems obvious that Marley is an idol for those who are really into weed (sorry, I know this doesn’t apply to all Marley fans…I’m just sayin…)
I have cousins who grew up in Boulder, Colorado… I think the culture there and in parts of Virginia–especially the culture MH seems to have been a part of— is open to drug use, into jam bands, and embodies the lifestyle of the “hippies.” There are parallels.
I don’t say any of the rest of this out of disrespect… I experimented with weed in college…was too scared to try anything else. But it wouldn’t surprise me if MH’s parents were opposed to this lifestyle because (a) they thought it would reflect poorly on them, as professionals and people of high social standing (b) they know the physiological damage that can be done from such drugs (c) they knew it might one day put MH in a compromised/unsafe situation…or a combination of all the above. While I’m not into drugs (despite the experimentation) I will say that I am personally much more accepting of weed (and certain other substances) that are naturally occuring. These substances have been used for centuries by native cultures in religious ceremonies. Unfortunately I think that prohibiting these substances have caused them to become more dangerous..more potent, contaminated, etc. My point is that I suspect this group was involved in more than just the natural drugs and that is where I become more worried.
Another anecdote that I’ve been sitting on (didn’t want to be sensational): I had an acquaintance in college who used to go to a LOT of Greatful Dead shows…he is very, very burned out and spacey. He told me years ago that there were some people who would throw acid (liquid, drug-form) on people that they didn’t like at concerts to make them trip really hard or bad. I don’t think this happened to MH, but it just underlines the possibility that she could have been on a substance unknowingly or unintentionally (same goes for if something was slipped into the drink of this hard partying group).
Finally, all of the above seems like a very plausible explanation for why the Harrington’s may have wished to keep things quiet. Even though Gary Condit wasn’t involved in Chandra Levy’s disappearance, his connection to the missing woman ruined his career, personal life, etc. Perhaps the Harrington’s were trying to protect their family, Morgan’s reputation in case she came home, or even the lives of the friends. This idea reminds me of OYE’s comment, “Parents deny “this doesnt happen to us”, “she would never do that” “this is someone else’s fault” blah, blah & try to deal with it quietly.”
I think that’s all I have right now… and, again, my apologies for the length.
>>Good Gravy, dont saddle me with the halo thing- I do not qualify, lol.
B <<
Excuse me, Ms. Blink, but as I tell my kid, now is not the time to be talking back to me ! If’n I says you gots a halo ’round your pumkin head, you gots yoself a halo !!! True Dat.
Looks like the radio show was last night, so I’ll have to catch it in the archive — shoot — but I also have a friend who has an internet radio show w/ lots of listeners — seriously, if you’re interested, I’ll give you his contact info — I think you’d be a great guest on his show —
Gosh, so much info since last night — I don’t remember the post, but the one about the cab driver and the 7-11 — somewhere — and I posted it recently, don’t have time now to go look for it — but on another forum someone posted that she got into a van at the 7-11 w/ guys w/ tatoos on his arms — the poster on that forum was kind of blown off — but “if” the 7-11 sighting is real maybe attention should be given to that post ??? Also, I’ve looked and the only reference I’ve ever seen is the one post by Maggie, I think, on the FB forum that said she saw Morgan HH’g on Alderman — she didn’t post she saw her getting a ride — it’s quite possible Morgan walked to the 7-11 — the 7-11 is in that direction — if she were originally headed to the EconoLodge, she would not have walked over the fields — she would have turned left on the sidewalk outside of jpj and walked two short blocks directly to EconoLodge — it’s much closer than it appears on the mapquest — I do not want to put anyone under the microscope, but an individual who has already been named on this forum as a possible friend of Morgan has tatoos all the way up his arm — Blink, you’re in contact w/ LE — I wonder what kind of car/ van ?? he drives ???
Also, the posts on Perez Hilton are chilling —
Finally, our Golden Goblet Girl, J2K — thanks for posting the Va. law as to witness statements.
I have absolutely no problem w/ anyone hiring an atty. In fact, were my child somehow involved in this as close as the people in her car, I would hire an atty — however, that said, the reasoning behind the atty — attys will often take clinets to LE for interviews if they are witnesses — only objecting if there is any self-incriminating statements — I have heard more than one atty in my career say: tell ‘em what you know. Also, under Va. law, the court can infer if someone takes the 5th, that there may be self-incriminating evidence and can issue warrants. “Lawyering up” is not always a bad thing.
Another thing — if a client admits to murdering a person, the atty cannot withhold that information from law enforcement, even under the client/atty privilege. Often criminal defense attys will not ask their clients if they are guilty —
Lastly, I don’t have the law in front of me, but if a person commits perjury under oath in an effort to save their own hide, it’s a federal offense, w/ more serious consequences —
Sorry, I guess lastly No. 2, even if a person hires an atty, if that person tells another person the same information, then that information is no longer protected under the atty/client privilege. It’s out — and once it’s out, it’s fair game.
I have to go to work, and probably will work late tonight, so I’ll catch you all on the flip side —
Blink, let me know if you’re interested in my friend’s show. I think it’s right up your alley : )
PS: J2K — I nearly wet my pants when I read your : I dinnen mean to do it !
How about pizza w/ extra cheese for you ??? (and everyone — every single one of you who posts here — still blow me away w/ your deductive reasoning and your research and everything you bring to this table — talk about a brain trust !!! woo-wee, as my precious uncle used to say : )
Here’s a link to the necklace with price. I do believe it was a gift from her brother, who may work in NYC as a hairdresser, iirc. It’s not expensive, does not fit with her hippy style, but I believe he knew she was multi-faceted, interested in fashion, and definitely could rock that necklace.
http://compare.ebay.com/like/380169715993?ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes
Now, if it was not a gift from her brother, but from a boyfriend, my take on that is thus. He’s older, has a little money, has lived in more sophisticated surrounds, and wanted to ‘dazzle’ MH. If so, also, she was wearing it for him.
Yet, that just doesn’t settle well for me. If it was a gift from her brother, she could still be wearing it for a POI to show him her sexy, flashy, I’mjustnotVirginia-style. Ugh. Hope not…
The white van with tattooed man ‘sighting’–if wishing would make it so….we might have Morgan home again.
My thought to Josie’s post 1004:
What if this post was meant for Morgan’s brother? The poster gave him the necklace and his love, he gave it to sis, poster is hurt, angry. The necklace was given to her by her brother but not bought for her. What do you think? Too farfetched?
Anyway I don’t see anything directly related to her missing.
I should know better than to pop in here for a quick glance. Ah, so much to discuss!
J2K — you are kind to encourage me but beware I can get carried away with the metaphors. I suspect you are quite skilled with the editing tool. (If you don’t already make your living writing, you should.)
Okay, so back to the simmering pot of inconsistencies…
THE CAR…I bring this issue up again because it reeks. So into the pot it goes. Early on Lt. Rader stated that Morgan’s car was only relevant to the case as her mode of transportation from VT to JMU. (I know, I know, we’ve been through all this before.) Later it is confirmed that Morgan’s car was driven to the arena.
This inconsistency makes me think of several different possible explanations:
1) Someone lied.
2) Both statements are true: Morgan’s car is only relevant as her transportation to JMU AND the car went to Cville. Explanation being that Morgan did not ride in her vehicle from JMU to the arena or she never made it to the arena.
3) Facts about the car were not able to be confirmed because the driver had legal counsel that had advised client not to speak
4) LE is sending mixed signals purposely to confuse the perp (it’s working on me too)
5) LE made a boo-boo and has since straightened it out.
On a side note…
There are some good (and legal) reasons why innocent people should not speak out. At another table this would make for a fascinating discussion but I refrain from discussing it here as I think it might work against our goal of finding Morgan for her family.
Suffice it to say that I support any person/parent that hires legal counsel and I do not interpret that action or a person’s complete silence as an admission of guilt. I also think the Harringtons gave the friends wise advice, my opinion.
And Kriddo, yes, great point that release of photos could weaken witness credibility. We want LE to be able to hand over a strong case for the prosecution.
Another thought on the necklace I meant to include. The family has a spiritual side, enjoys their private messages (241) and it makes me think of the symbolism of the the chain link necklace. If three links, may it represent 241? As strong as the weakest link? Divine connection, faith, fraternity, unity…all possible.
Did we hear Gil say it was a ‘special gift’ to Morgan?
http://www.mydailyprogress.com/index.php/multimedia/podcast_article/on_the_ball_with_hootie_and_whitey3/38345/
Interesting take on Jamil’s departure from the team. I hope this link works but if not, guy says that he has a hunch there was “something in his personal life” that caused his grades to slide, but hopes he can at least come out with a degree (I’m paraphrasing).
I’m not suggesting anything regarding this guy, it is just interesting.
BlackPearl and all
Speaking of Dan C. and 21st birthday parties, I believe his girlfriend is 3 years older than him. Any idea how old she is? If she is the same age as Morgan, or was 20 at the time that Morgan went missing, that would perhaps make Dan C. a juvenile at that same time (which may be why the silence on his name up to now).
I have a couple of questions. Blink, can LE intentionally give out misinformation? Skylar, are you sure about atty/client priv being null & void if guilt is admitted? The only reason I ask is because I remember a case where an atty had received a map from a client that indicated where the body was, but they couldn’t disclose that information to LE. Big stink at the time. I also remember seeing some investigative TV show where the atty could not disclose the guilt of his client even though he had proof, and some other guy was convicted and spent 20 some odd years in jail for a crime he did not commit.
I have tried hard not to project my life experiences onto MH, but I guess at some point, we all do. I am 25 years older than MH, but was fortunate or unfortunate enough (however you want to look at it) to have had a very extended adolescence/young adulthood. I lived in the Live Music Capital of the World for a 10 year stint. As a music lover, I can see wanting to see Metallica in Concert even if I wasn’t all that into metal music. Metallica is one of those bands that is on a “must see” concert list. I truly think MH went to this concert to see them. I don’t believe she planned on being outside the arena for their gig.
I also agree that MH probably did some experimenting with X or Acid. However, I do not see her taking a full hit of either and going to this concert. You are up way too long and the recovery/down time is a good day (even if you’re young). She had plans to be with her dad the next day and to study. You just feel too bad/fuzzy afterwards.
I agree that there may have been some tention between her and the roommate. At that age, when you live with somebody, even the best of relationships can become strained. (Too much partying when someone is trying to study … neat freak vs. someone who just doesn’t care, etc.). I also know at that age, young people are very cliquish and even “incestuous” within the clique and there may have been some jealousy because of that, but I do not think the roommate or friends malaciously and deliberately did anything to harm MH.
It appears that after Morgan found herself outside and unable to get back in, surely she had some kind of plan. Her movement outside the area appears too deliberate. She wasn’t wandering aimlessly. The BB player(s) she had contact with surely must have been able to give LE some inkling of what she was thinking or of her state of mind. So, I’m sorry, but in my mind, they could still be POI.
I realize that LE probably has not released alot of info in this case because they can use what they do have to filter good tips from bad tips. And if they do have a POI, that person cannot say I read that on a board, or in the newspaper or saw that on TV if they give up something in a statement.
That’s why I was wondering if they ever give out misinformation.
They cannot intentionally and knowingly give out false information. That said, they may change information as they learn more or develop leads that do that for them.
B
Lizzy, re# 1061… thank you. Couldn’t figure that one out. If you look at all of that guy’s recent posts the last three actually seem out of context to the posts they were in reference to but possibly related to each other. I could hardly bring myself to go back to that site.
Now, since I’m learning so many new things about mules and such, could someone clarify something else for me? What in the world does iirc mean?
Mule Pool is also an online poker site.
Any word on the Charlestown, WVA siting? Charlestown has horse racing, slots, gambling, etc.
yoshi………iirc (if I recall correctly) or (if I remember correctly)
http://www2.dailyprogress.com/cdp/sports/cavalier_insider/ci_basketball/article/jamil_tucker_dismissed_for_academic_reasons/50286/
NK weighs in on Jamil:
“Posted by nkscouting on December 28, 2009 at 12:27 am
He never was supposed to be a great player when he was recruited here. What did people expect from him?! Players don’t turn out to be way better or way worse than advertised when recruited!”
thank you, granmomma
@ WG
Did we hear Gil say it was a ’special gift’ to Morgan?
Yes, I believe she said it was a gift from Alex.
That’s why when everyone was asking why she would wear a necklace like this to a concert, I actually considered that she may have ran away, and wore this due to the sentimental value.
Comment by lizzy — December 29, 2009 @ 12:52 pm:
[Is there evidence/indication that WANNA-BE-PAVER CREEP knew Morgan?]
________________________________
Yes, Lizzy, there is.
Top photo, forefront, he’s seen in the burgundy shirt, in front of Morgan. Bottom photo, his prior Facebook picture.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/45970010@N07/
belleboyd, fyi Charles Town only has slots and horses (no table games yet—Jefferson County shot them down 2 years ago, but I am sure they will make it back on the ballot).
#1029 – Word Girl -
Have we come full circle?
dear chad, skyler, momof3 and emily: just a quick note…thank you for your acknowledgements of my posts. will post later but chad, i too, believe that the photo was mocking Morgan.
Just as Blink said, there has been posting and deleting on findmorgan. Example # 1 which I would direct at Baaaadbobby and I quote, “Claudette is indeed a lady from another part of VA, and Questioner is a lady from another state entirely, not even a border state to VA.”
Yesterday someone had asked questioner about the hits Claudette was getting on her site as a direct result of this controvery. Questioners reponse was something along the lines of, “yes that is funny, and just the other day Claudette stopped in asking why no one was visiting her site.” I am 100% sure she said stopped in as I thought this was a very strange remark. I remember thinking, stopped in? So the know eachother personally? They visit with eachother in person? Also, it seems as though Claudette has been having some family health issues and issues with her house due to the storm. It would seem odd that she is able to cross multiple states to visit with someone who simply “built” her website.
Funny thing. It is now gone. That whole discussion has been deleted. So Blink, you are right, I don’t trust anything that goes on over there.
Regarding bulldogPI, I still remember many of the images he posted, even though they were briefly available (no, I did not save them).
I would imagine he had more available but chose these ones to post. For what it’s worth, the first thing I noticed was that many of them were actually very well done to the point of being publication ready for a magazine or portfolio of sorts. I had the feeling a professionally creative individual took those photos. Who, I don’t know.
Another thing noted was Morgan with the same female in what, 3 or 4(?) photos. The photos say to me (and other) they have a close relationship. This girl is not part of The 9. She is a “newer” friend (as opposed to OYE saying Morgan had no newer friends) and perhaps one who was in Morgan’s life more frequently and maybe even a confidante. She is also VT (?)
Comment by kgb21 — December 17, 2009 @ 4:01 pm
“clementine:
Erin Cole graduated from LBHS with Morgan (and me). They hit it off immediately when Morgan transferred. I really doubt she is involved with Morgan being missing, because I don’t think she was ever really close with “the nine.”
In either case, perhaps the photographer and/or this “newer” friend may have more or different information to offer than The 9, even perhaps information more recent.
Just some thoughts.
blink: if your two editors do not believe Morgan ever made it to UVA then do they believe she made it to JMU? did Dr. Harrington actually speak to Morgan or was it in text? my memory fades me. LE could get a ping from Harrisonburg.
also, as a resident of “the burg”, it is a “keep quiet fact”, that the upperclassmen buy the kegs and the underclassmen get to attend these parties (nominal fee) but they must continue the tradition when they become uppers! many of us have complained! do not risk driving on a friday or saturday night, taking your kids to the movies. it can be a warzone on port road. plus,there is a gas & beer station that is known to sell both to those of age (ok, legal) and those underage (ok, not legal) and halloween night is a big one!!!
in regards to skyler’s post…we have complained, called, reported and i do not know what the answer is? maybe there is too many of them and not enough LE? i do wish every single one of these kids parents were more involved with the kid’s college education and by that, i mean, not only the books and grades but their afterhour activities. i know that most of it is harmless and goes nowhere but turning a blind-eye to underage drinking just leads to nowhere.
thanks for listening.
praying for Morgan’s return!
I recall the recently posted pictures of people, students and parents at the reunion, or perhaps it was “Parents Weekend” at JMU on Oct. 17. There was a lot of tail-gating going on, as expected. Were those pictures from 2009? Someone help me here, I can no longer find them.
Comment by clementine — December 29, 2009 @ 6:32 pm
“Comment by lizzy — December 29, 2009 @ 12:52 pm:
[Is there evidence/indication that WANNA-BE-PAVER CREEP knew Morgan?]
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Yes, Lizzy, there is.
Top photo, forefront, he’s seen in the burgundy shirt, in front of Morgan. Bottom photo, his prior Facebook picture.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/45970010@N07/”
clementine,
Appreciate you setting up a flickr.
My goodness, there is the same girl Erin C., also.
Well now, Looky Here.
Outstanding WPG. Cheese of Choice and a Pimped Wheel.
B
Word Girl
I believe that Gil Harrington said that Morgan’s brother had the necklace special made for Morgan. “Because the necklace was unique, just like Morgan”) Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought that Gil had mentioned that in an interview.
Bulldog pulled those pics off of Alex’s FB site. He is a photographer.
clementine, thank you. Looks like a nice picture of friends–Morgan looks good. But wanna-be-a-paver just doesn’t seem to quite fit with the other four, does he? Thought provoking.
Blink,
What is a pimped wheel?
Thanks for the cheese, but I’m feeling a little sick at the moment.
Sorry, I was sending you wheel bling. Improvements to your wheel for your hard work.
I am sorry you are not feeling well friend.
B
Nice job, mice! thx for the flickr, too, Clem.
Rn, I can understand your thoughts on the neck;ace sentimentality. I had a male NY friend call that necklace “hooker” so I’m not sure what message it was sending!
Mary, I only wish we were coming full circle. Nk just needed his shorts yanked. LE and the community needs to know he’s out there without his lights on.
Gil Harrington’s thoughts from December 20th.
ON DECEMBER – 29 – 20094 COMMENTS
The snowfall is beautiful but still disturbing – melancholy. Wonder if Morgan is cold – is snow falling on her face – or is her face covered by leaves in a shallow grave being hidden by the snow. I glance out the window and see the crimson blaze of a cardinal at the bird feeder – my heart leaps for a second at the beauty – then I think its feathers look like blood in the snow. Is that what Morgan’s blood looks like in the snow? See how the pitfalls are everywhere – even at the bird feeder.
I try very hard to remain positive and hopeful to see Morgan coming home. I envision our reunion – feel her body as I hug her tightly. I imagine Dan’s delight as we put her in the car to bring her back home. At times, I can see it so clearly it almost feels real. Other times I consider that Morgan might be loaded on a gurney – not our car and brought back to Roanoke – not to our home but to the Medical Examiners Lab here.
I pray that is not the end to this crisis. Morgan 2 4 1
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Comment by clementine — December 29, 2009 @ 6:32 pm
from clementine (re Shannon M.):
“Top photo, forefront, he’s seen in the burgundy shirt, in front of Morgan. Bottom photo, his prior Facebook picture.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/45970010@N07/”
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The guy on the right is wearing a t-shirt from the New York METAL band
Coheed and Cambria
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coheed_and_Cambria
Notice the backdrop
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:WarpedTour07.jpg
clementine,
Do you know the date of that group photo?
Hi, all. Have finally caught up with the prolific and insightful posts post holidays on the road. One trip for me was to Charlottesville. As I entered town and drove down Pantops Mtn on 250, I found myself behind the Albemarle Co Police Forensics truck. In all my years living there, I never saw the thing, but of course as I’m driving in to town and thinking of Morgan, I’m right behind it, with its giant letters spelling FORENSICS on the side. Its siren wasn’t on, and it turned onto Stony Pt Rd. I haven’t see any news, so I’ve no idea why it was there. (But if you care to know, Blink, it was approx 4:45 pm on Sat the 26th.)
The other Morgan-related thing I noticed while there was the dearth of flyers. I was on the downtown mall and the Corner (the University area), and I saw a single flyer: props to the Take It Away sandwich shop for having one in its window. Shocked and saddened me. It could be that some establishments have flyers posted inside, where I couldn’t see them.
I have little to add about the friends. I think more of us than we realize have lost loved ones at a young age, and it seems clear that none of us behaved in this fashion or displayed such disrespect for a grieving family. At the same time, however, I thank my lucky stars my own coming of age predates the digital era.
Taking copious notes before my daughters hit adolescence, and eagerly awaiting the pendulum’s swing back toward decency …
PS Skyler, any word from H’burg LE?
Huh. Are my eyes deceiving me?