Morgan Harrington Case: An Appeal To * You Know Who*
Disclaimer– exclusive original content copyright and property of Internet Network News, LLC and Blinkoncrime.com. Reproduction of this article , ANY OF IT’S Conclusions or CONTENT, in whole or in part without proper attribution and source link is strictly prohibited without prior written permission.
Charlottesville, VA–The disappearance of Morgan Harrington, missing since October 17, 2009 is exhibiting the potential to reach a temperature that is currenlty encompassing the Northeast: VERY COLD.
Through the thousands of posts at blinkoncrime.com and numerous articles covering Morgan, it is clear that frustration in the lack of lead generation and ambiguous statements from the Virginia State Police are causing some to lack conviction Morgan will be found.
In a recent press conference by VSP, LE provided NO NEW information or progress regarding Morgan’s case. In a shift of posture by the Harrington family, Dr. Harrington has begun participating in online chat and sponsored an additional facebook site to help the efforts to find his daughter.
In fact, for the first time in 2.5 months, we know what kind of camera Morgan had with her the evening of the Metallica concert from his research.
In contrast, we have viewed footage and photos of her dear friends that have clearly moved on without the knowledge of their friends plight.
Girls will be girls you say? Before one person comes on here to tell me I am being too critical of these young women you should know that due to a fortunate Facebook update, describing these girls as Morgan’s friends is entirely generous.
Furthermore, if you happen to be one of the parents that has provided booze for underage minors captured on digital for all to see you may wish to take a peek at what is on your daughter’s social sites.
Have you thought about what it would be like to be Gil or Dan while your linin’ it up and throwin’ em back WITH your kids?
Fortunately, this is not the focus today. I do not feel Morgan’s friends did anything to directly cause her fate. They are more “ME” than frienemy, that is evident.
Gil Harrington, posting on the families site findmorgan.com, wrote one of the most eloquent and courageous posts from the Mother of a missing child I have ever read.
The snowfall is beautiful but still disturbing – melancholy. Wonder if Morgan is cold – is snow falling on her face – or is her face covered by leaves in a shallow grave being hidden by the snow. I glance out the window and see the crimson blaze of a cardinal at the bird feeder – my heart leaps for a second at the beauty – then I think its feathers look like blood in the snow. Is that what Morgan’s blood looks like in the snow? See how the pitfalls are everywhere – even at the bird feeder.
In a somewhat angst-ridden moment, a poster on blinkoncrime.com suggested any and all witnesses in this case should be subject to repeated Barry Manilow songs until they confess.
It jogged a memory for me that reminded me that I am proudly my Father’s daughter. Morgan is Dan Harrington’s daughter.
Maybe someone, somewhere, has just not approached that perspective.
In response to the MAN-i-low dis-
Blink prefacing below to say: yes, off topic, and yes, I am on cold meds, but y’all went after the “MAN ilow”. < ?xml:namespace prefix ="" o />
Barry holds a special place in the heart of my family. When I was a kid I used to play dress up with my Mom’s clothes. If a pair of her way-too-big-for-me heels was “done”, she would let me cut off the ankle straps and dance around in them as slides.
One afternoon, when I should have been doing my homework, I was blaring Copa Cabana in my Parents study dressed like a thriftshop showgirl and when ” Who could ask for more…at the Copa” part came on, I kicked like a 12 year old Rockette and launched my “slide/RPG” into the ceiling.
There it stayed.
I threw everything I could find at that shoe to dislodge it. Nothing.
Except for the new marks on the scalloped ceiling.
Later, when unbeknownst to me, my Dad was reading his 12 daily newspapers in the study, I thought I might try another idea.
I jumped as hard as I could at the spot upstairs above where the slutslipper was lodged.
It worked on the 3rd try.
How do I know?
I heard a “S o n o f a …..” , then something that sounded like a combination of my first and middle names with a swear word interjected that was rising in tone and volume, and now coming my way.
As I hit the hallway to head to the other direction or squeeze myself unnaturally under something, there He was
My Dad, evidence in hand, smiling wryly form ear to ear.
“Yours I presume, young lady,” his forearm outstretched gently with the nail to my coffin in his palm.
I responded .. “What makes you say that?
Could be ketchup or mustards..”
(Lame editors note: do NOT ask, my sisters and I had bathing suits that matched when we were little that were red, yellow and white, respectively, it stuck to this day, I was Mayo)
He replied .. ” Because I know, this weekend, when you fish out your overalls and help me fix the ceiling before your Mother notices, you would rather do that than whatever she comes up with so we can be all done here. The End. ( Blink dad making the wipe hands clean gesture)
She has been talking about repainting the Family room for months, I would LOVE some help with that…”
“Yes Sir.” I muttered with a matching grimace.
“Can I have it back?” I asked.
“I would say your dancing days are on hold, dear daughter, for the foreseeable future, as are your TV privliges.”
“Anything else? ” I asked.
“Why yes, there is. If you choose to dance through the house with wreckless abandon, next time, do it when your homework is finished and in your tennis shoes. And can you please try to be more like your Mother and less like me?”
“Doubtfull Deets, doubtful.”
With that carefully measured tween rhetort I skipped down the hall, crisis averted and I am still Dad’s fave.
I can live with the painting. Wonder if I can pick the color??
I chose to share this very personal exchange with my Daddy because it dawned on me that maybe someone that reads this does not understand what Morgan’ s Father (and family, but this reference is strictly male) needs from them.
He was her protector. He is her ceiling fixer.
You have to give him back what you took so he can fix it for her and their family.
He does not care who you are or what you may have done.
You can do this for them now. Have faith that anything can be fixed. Anything.
Related Posts
Related Posts:
2,157 Comments
RSS feed for comments on this post. TrackBack URI
Yep, susanm, unicorns.
Seems that MMC scenario has now got it’s nose in front. But I’m not going with the ‘OD at the park’ finale, I’ve got something else in mind now.
Oh Facebook is a deep and winding information pit!
OK last one then I’ll give you all a break from seeing my name. There was some interest in Brownsville Market pretty early in the search, right? Maybe they met their friend(s) here who made or were in on the pre-party arrangements, then were led back to the campground to hang out until it was time to go in to the concert. Would have been a great idea, and very convenient. This would mean that the party was probably attended by people not from around here, or else they’d have been at someone’s house. It also would have been a small group, as anything large and loud would have attracted too much attention.
Morgan may not have made it back here after the concert, but it’s very possible this is where they started.
Hey Liz, Misty Mt. is below Afton Mountain (a real mountain), which is all National park. OYE might not know the difference.
Has Morgan’s Angels been shut down???
I was a member before all the hoopla, just tried to snoop and got this:
**Sign ups are currently disabled at this forum. Only staff members can create accounts at this time.**
No idea
B
Blink, are you positive OYE is in the picture people claim she is in? I have another idea of who OYE could be, but she would not have been in that picture.
localcvillegirl,
Hi, you are not talking to yourself. Believe me, we are all taking it in. Thank you so much for taking a look out there. Please, be careful,and don’t ever go anywhere,that someone isn’t aware you were planning to,okay?
So, there were Halloween activities going on there…..
Local, Do you have to pay to get in? Is there a checkin booth? Also, can you drive or sneak in if needed? Also, good point that this might have been where they started but maybe Morgan never made it back…
Enquirer,
Hello, could you please elaborate on the FB and what else you have in mind?
Yoshi, thank you for your research. I do think the camps, barn scenario are just as likely at this point.
Liz, thans so much for that information, I was wondering about the state park comment. Interesting that MMcamp is also at Croset doorstep.
wpgmouse, I know what you mean, something seems to be stirring. And I don’t think its a mouse. Especially after Dan’s comments….
Redly, Very important point, I think you may be correct in your summation of Dan’s comment.
mamy, thanks for sharing your experience. I for 1 agree that if this did happen JPJ may not want it out there.
J2K, Chad, regarding the flask being confiscated. IMO sometimes teachers, security guards ect confiscate and keep things for themselves and others they know, …Maybe whomever confiscated it,liked it and kept it instead of making a report….
Lovely, I just want to say thanks for sharing your opinion on OYE. Just for the record, I don’t know if she knew anything either. She may have been throwing things out there like we all are.
susanm,Hi, thank you for weighing in, and also for sharing that story.
The song keeps playing in my mind also. Especially since the talk has turned to Morgan’s possibly partaking in Hallucinogenics. I hope if something like this happened whomever was there will come forward.
alexandra, Hello, thanks for posting that, we have all went there to, I think that is why Blinked sighed, as we seem to have all gone in a big circle and are going over old ground. Although I thi.nk everything is important, and we may have missed something the 1st time around,
Lovely (#886) re:
“i dont think OYE knows anything. i think she is on the periphery and just talking. i think she knows morgans general reputation, some of her friends, and the hearsay surrounding that night, but thats about it. she probably doesnt have any info to provide to the police.
shes basically ALL FOAM AND NO BEER.”
I agree, Lovely. I think OYE’s insider knowledge has been unfoundedly built up in her absence. Even with all the reposts of her often sort-of-bitchy, disagreeable comments, it’s clear she’s speculating (in an effort to be helpful, I believe) like the rest of us.
Let’s see, we’ve got the possibilities of a drug OD (or, she “did not say she using DRUGS. ..those were YOUR WORDS, my dear”) /alcohol poisoning, dying after “ingesting her own vomit”/head injury (which she welcomes as a “new angle”) – all as precursors to some young people MH was with panicking and hiding her body; according to OYE, MH may have been drinking (but told not to get drunk) at a party before of after the show in a hotel, vacant building or park in between or around JMU, Cville, or an undisclosed location/”LOCATION X”; MH was definitely “STRUGGLING with SOMETHING,” which made her appear pale and sickly in several pictures – either mommy or substance-related issue (“obvious” b/c MH changed schools senior year and made no new friends (don’t think that’s true, actually – she had a number of Lort Bort High friends on FB who graduated the same year as her, and many joined the FB effort to find her), oh it’s also clear she had issues/showed her naivete because her bank account was overdrawn and her mom helped her pick out an outfit.
Then there’s the comment that launched a thousand theories:
“Also–I have it on good info that MH was told ‘not to get drunk at that party’. I dont know if the party was before the concert, or maybe one to which she went after leaving the arena. . .If that is true perhaps scenario was this: MH ‘I cant get back in, I’m going to get a ride to X LOCATION for the party’ SS: ‘Ok well then dont get drunk, etc’ MH “yeah, WTF ever, dont worry about it’ After concert, no Morgan, so SS & Company are like ‘I told her not to. . . .we can’t wait on her forever’ EXIT SS & Company. Meanwhile, MH partied it up at X LOCATION, she OD’s, partiers freak and she is left in some unknown location.”
That doesn’t seem very clear or knowing to me.
To OYE’s credit, that’s *all* she asked us to take her word on, and offered nothign more “concrete,” if that’s what you want to call it (I wouldn’t). I think somewhere along the way from her first posts to now, she’s been blown up into an actual insider regarding the circumstances that night that led to MH’s disappearance, and now every one of her posts are parsed as if through reading deeply into them we’re going to find the answer… or Morgan.
Well, we’re not. Not through OYE, anyway. All we’ve learned is that MH probably likes to party just as much if not more than her friends, and may have had some undefined personal issues. OYE clearly doesn’t think it was a predator who abducted/killed MH; she thinks MH was with people she knew – perhaps not that well – and something happened, she died, they freaked and dumped her somewhere. That sounds like more than half of the speculations already posted throughout these threads. To wit, her last post:
“still feel that Morgan texted someone who was still at the house where they’d been partying before the concert, and was planning on returning to the party with this guy. . . .
Tarheel?”
OYE has every right to post such thoughts/theroies/questions here; glad to have her – but can we please turn down the expectation level? Sheesh. I didn’t even realize it went up to 11…
wpgmouse-SS FB is still there.
I don’t buy that they would have been partying outside on a cold rainy day. UVA students generally party in houses as so many rent in the area — at least in my day.
Comment by clementine — January 8, 2010 @ 7:02 pm:
Regarding SGM: [He is not on her friends list, nor she on his.
There are however, at least three mutual friends between them and more than a few friends on each of their friends lists who are friends with each other.
One of the Tyree sisters (not Megan) is on both Morgan’s & SGM’s friends list.
There is another young lady with the initials C.S. who is also on both Morgan’s & SGM’s friends list (and friends with Sara Turner - small world)
Third one I can’t recall at the moment. I will have to look it up.]
———–
Comment by th game shannonh — January 12, 2010 @ 12:26 am:
[TRUTHFULLY ABOUT TH FRIENDS ,A FRIEND OF MINE LAUGHED AT ME ,because i only had 76 friends ,,actually laughed ,looked at her friend and sed ,hes only got 76 friends ,this was in july ,th next day i followed a trail of pretty girls from friend selection to friend selection,if she was pretty ,i requested,dont know anybody on the friends personally except th girls from hollinsthat was th first 76,th rest ,i hav no freakin idea who they are,]
———–
Comment by elpy — January 12, 2010 @ 1:58 am:
[Just wanted to say that I believe that the person in the group picture is not Shannon. If you look closely at his left ear, you can see that it bends forward, almost a little malformed, whereas the pictures of Shannon do not show ears like that, but rather ears that lie flat to his head. Maybe we need to at least consider that he is telling the truth here.]
______________________
I have considered SGM is telling the truth regarding the photo.
I am not, however, convinced that he didn’t know/know of Morgan in some way, because they have facebook ‘friends’ in common, and their friends have friends in common.
Now, I am fully aware that facebook friends do not always = real life friends, but when you explore the connections, they are impossible to just dismiss without further thought.
SGM said: “i followed a trail of pretty girls from friend selection to friend selection,if she was pretty ,i requested,dont know anybody on the friends personally except th girls from hollinsthat was th first 76,th rest ,i hav no freakin idea who they are,]”
Five of those girls SGM requested as friends are on Morgan Harrington’s friend list as well.
1) Carrie A Smith
2) Kristen Brizendine
3) MacKenzie Tyree
4) Samantha Barney
5) Samantha Rakes
This begs the question: Did SGM ever attempt to friend Morgan on facebook too?
Shannon?
Thought I would check in and catch up on all the posts! I can’t keep it with all of these posts. I always have to re read J2K’s and Skyler quotes 2x. Excellent posts by the way J2K and Skyler. Always enjoy reading them.
Momof3: Way to run with OYE’s comments and take them to a new level. Not sure if we are on to something resourceful or not. But it sure makes so much sense and OYE’s comments, they certainly needed to be translated. Silly, we had to work with only clues, and a tinge of game playing. I do hope that if OYE does know something concreteeven if she heard it (which makes it hearsay) that she called the tip line. Momof3 great research and way to stick with your intuition with OYE.
Fish: BRAVO! (Clap Clap) Something needed to be said to these girls. ( Although the blow dryer comment was too funny
To Local and all the locals Charlotteville and surrounding areas: Living in a completely different state, and far across the US, it is so appreciative of all of you the provide the detailed information concerning hyways, buildings, and the physical surroundings of the area. It really helps us all out and certainly provides a good visual. Local: I can’t believe that you drove to that park. Good for you! You were not having a conversation with your self, we were all just listening!
I certainly hope that LE will take the time to search there. It cannot hurt. It’s certainly is something more than they had before!
J2K, Hi,
I think your take on OYE’s posts is valid. As myself have said she may not have had any concrete info. I feel the need to point out that unlike all of us, she never strayed from her theory. She never questioned whether or not Morgan was abducted by a stranger or someone she knew, She never once strayed from her belief that whatever led to Morgan’s disappearance, Morgan herself was a party to what ever led up to it, however unpopular a theory that was to any of us…
Remember, we all jumped all over her for sticking to her guns regarding Morgan being a badgirl. Early on, when we were all questioning the cell and the purse she never weighed in, through at least 3 previous threads she didn’t weigh in. She posted that everyone is begging for some kind of information on Morgan whether it it bad or not,when she did, we all gave her hell for it.
You wrote:
Then there’s the comment that launched a thousand theories:
“Also–I have it on good info that MH was told ‘not to get drunk at that party’. I dont know if the party was before the concert, or maybe one to which she went after leaving the arena. . .If that is true perhaps scenario was this: MH ‘I cant get back in, I’m going to get a ride to X LOCATION for the party’ SS: ‘Ok well then dont get drunk, etc’ MH “yeah, WTF ever, dont worry about it’ After concert, no Morgan, so SS & Company are like ‘I told her not to. . . .we can’t wait on her forever’ EXIT SS & Company. Meanwhile, MH partied it up at X LOCATION, she OD’s, partiers freak and she is left in some unknown location.”
That doesn’t seem very clear or knowing to me.
J2K step back for a second and remember, this is before we knew she had partied, this is before we knew she may have been drunk off her bottom. This is before we knew she may have been combative in the car in the arena and after. I don’t think it is clear that OYE was speculating, she was trying to engage people here into discussing her scenario. The best she got was in the conversation with you and later when she brought up the party location maybe being at the Econlodge, because other people had brought it up, and she said it would be easy to find out who may have been registered there.
I don’t think OYE knows for a fact where the party took place. Like she said she knows what she knows. She said she learned things later that she didn’t question earlier. I think she does know Morgan and some of Morgan’s friends and she was trying to help and think about what may have happened based upon her experiences and those of her friends, same as us KWIM She did offer up several of their party spots, no??
Wait let me get this right, OYE asked if tarheel was the guy Morgan was partying with?
Right Redly, I’d have been partying at a house too, but these kids were primarily from JMU. Even a hotel seems more likely, a cheap one like the Econolodge. I don’t remember what the weather was like the afternoon of the 17th, but it sounds like it got nasty later.
Hi J2K,
Just read your above comment.
I agree with all of what you are saying, but a couple of things give OYE some credibility that she was a friend of Morgans, and may have some, if not limited knowledge as to what may have happened to Morgan, or where she went, or who she was with and possible party habits.
Blink did confirm that OYE is in the picture. I think that means something, or at least it does give her some credibility, and also on the same note, I do think that she does care for Morgan, ( just by virtue of her posting here) although at times she did come across a little harsh and also a little negative in regards to Morgan at times with her posts.. We never really figured out who OYE is in that picture, but what I believe that we did surmise, was that she was a friend, and probably would know Morgans habits were and who she hangs with.
I dunno J2K. Just speculation on my part. As we all are just speculating and trying to make some sense of this tragedy.
Thanks for your input.
Sorry, didn’t mean to post twice. Sorry!
Redly,
Did you see Momof3 link on the MMC? If you click on the link, it actually display cabins there that possibly could have been rented. If Morgan did go to a party at MMC they probably were not partying outside, they indeed probably rented a cabin. Just sayin……
Blink did confirm she was in the picture, so she did know Morgan and at the very least SOME of her friends. The way I look at it, she has the potential of more inside knowledge than I sure do and I do not want to disregard any info she MAY have left. I would hate to just say “Oh she doesn’t know what she is talking about” without being very sure she hasn’t heard things from friends that may just possibly be true. Momof3 brings up some very good points in her post 913. Very good points.
My thoughts/opinions: Just because the friends are not talking to the public, does not mean that they have not now given all their info to the LE.
The Harringtons said that Morgan didn’t have a lot of boyfriends, which does not mean the same as having ‘dates’.
Did Morgan have a date the night of the 17th, even though he was not at the concert. She left with an apparent agenda. Was she planning to meet her date somewhere?
Assuming her friends were aware and were ultimately honest with LE, I would think that any possible ‘date’ of hers that night would have been already checked out; thus, ‘he’ would probably not be a POI since the LE is still inquiring about clues from the public and stating he remains in the “Charlottesville area”. However, on her way to meet a date, did she encounter someone else familiar to her and who offered to take her to her designation/party?
Logistically, I doubt they were partying outside at any campground that night because it was raining and very cold. And, BTW, Arcadia (campground) might be part of a state park. I believe that has been mentioned previously as one of their party spots. But, again, I doubt they were partying in the rain and cold. I think there were local parties inside motels/houses in Charlottesville/Harrisonburg, which seem more realistic and available to them that night.
If OYE’s is R, than, I think she is no longer a student, but is employed….although, I’m not certain of this either. Just believe I recall seeing a post or ID of her online with her employer listed.
I’m not so sure she knows anything for a fact other than the pattern of behavior of Morgan and some of her partying crowd. Some of what she was saying may have been based on what she has heard….hearsay. However, rumor quite often is based on a thread of truth, I have experienced.
A reminder that the above is only my own ideas/opinions in which I am sharing with you. Hopefully, we can build upon our shared ideas to follow the dots toward Morgan’s whereabouts.
Long time reader…First time poster to BOC. I wanted to throw 2 things out for discussion. First, when I was in college we partied at one of 2 places: soomeone’s apartment or a Fraternity house. Could any of the group be connected to a Fraternity that had a presence at UVA? Secondly, the band Snow Patrol, a Northern Irish alternative rock band, has a song called “Open Your Eyes”, don’t know if it was inspiration for OYE name or Led Zepplin as previous mentioned.
http://www.songmeanings.net/songs/view/3530822107858584030/
welcome-
B
Momof3 – (913)
“J2K step back for a second and remember, this is before we knew she had partied, this is before we knew she may have been drunk off her bottom.” …
I think a number of us thought she had been partying from the get-go of learning about this case.
jpo (914)
Yes. I thought it underscored my point.
Chad – (915)
I think OYE is Ramona. Not saying she isn’t/wasn’t a friend of MH or she doesn’t know her; I’m saying her knowledge of what went on the night MH disappeared is about where ours is, but she may be in a better position to guess what happened.
Sorry to be brief with you all – I’ll be back later!
where did the pickle go? is his myspace gone? it dont seem like he wants to talk anymore
Redly, hey I agree, a house would be great for partying. If people were tripping though, and the party was with underage people IMO they would want to go someplace that they could feel free,without neighbors or campus security or the cops.
Misty mountain c. ground rents cabins, small one room to huge cabins check out the page. Small cabins start at 45 dollars a night, you can get weekly rates and group rates. The tent sites are only 23 dollars a night, and they have shower facilities.
I havent seen this mentioned before, but thought i’d shine a light on it: The individual that OYE indicates as a party goer who may have been in direct contact with M is an ex-con with a hang of a lot of issues, especially temper related issues…..
Chad, Hiya, I have no set guns when it comes to any theory.
I only went back to the earlier posts of OYE to compare them with the newest one on this thread. I never intended to revisit her posts at great lengths, again. But, because of Blink’s source bringing up hallucinogenics, when I reread my post about the song (which is about tripping in the park) and others’ theories regarding Misty Mountain campground, coupled with OYES name, Open Your Eyes and the pic of Morgan with OYE, ect< It all seems to fit. Remember, I only posted the song because of the name,and because I was theorizing if Morgan passed away with someone who cared for her, they would want to place her somewhere that meant something, not because of the drug connotations.
I don’t know if we are on to something important either, but in my opinion because of its proximity, and all the other things I mentioned, I do believe LE should look into Mist Mountain C.ground, and the surrounding area. Until Morgan is found, I will continue to think that.
Wouldn’t you think that since Morgan and SS were friends for like, forever, their parents would at the very least know each other, even if they weren’t friends? According to that article today, the Harringtons seem to be more than a little frustrated with LE. Now why isn’t SS’s dad, who is with LE (correct?), in constant touch with the H’s? Maybe he is, but I get the feeling not. His daughter rode to the concert with M (we think), sat with her, watched her walk off alone, and was the last one of the friends to speak with her via phone. He owes the Harringtons every bit of onfo he can safely give them.
I understand the public does not need to know 80% or more of available info, and that’s fine, but her family is entitled to be kept in the loop, and I get the impression they’re not.
In that article, it said the following agencies are on the case: Police for Albemarle County, UVa police, C-ville police, Albemarle County Sheriff’s Office, and VSP. I wonder how all those agencies work together? Is there a pecking order? Is there one coordinating office? There wouldn’t happen to be a little conflict of interest, would there?
Do the cops know their kids are partying like that? Would they turn the other cheek at a remote place they deemed “safe” for their underage kids to drink alcohol/do whatever?
One more little FB find, there is a local C-ville DJ whose fulltime job is corporal of the – wait for it – Albemarle County Sheriff’s Office.
Is there some meaning behind tarheel that i don’t know about?When i think of tar ,I think of pavement.
I’m still trying to keep up with all of you. I must say you’re all brilliant and extremely determined. I hope the fruits of your labor will soon bring closure to this nightmare. I did want to add that I still feel the friends who were with Morgan know pretty much exactly what was going on and all the players involved. Plus, none of those girls seem camera shy. Where in the world are all of their pictures from that night? These kids today snap pictures of anything/everything. There must be a lot of photos from that night in someone’s possession.
Hey J2K, me again, I just wanted to clarify 1 more point, you wrote:
That sounds like more than half of the speculations already posted throughout these threads. To wit, her last post:
“still feel that Morgan texted someone who was still at the house where they’d been partying before the concert, and was planning on returning to the party with this guy. . . .
Tarheel?”
Oye did not speculate the first part, she was stating, oh you mean Tarheel…at least to my way of thinking. Was OYE in the know to whom Morgan was texting being Tarheel or was she in the know to the part about where the party took place? As JPO questioned, this is very important, IMO if either of these points turn out to be true, we will know that OYE did in fact know more than the police has made public.
We still don’t know who Morgan was texting and we still don’t know where the party was…What do you think J2k is my thinking correct?
Thanks by the way for always making me keep the thinking cap on, as sometimes I tend to go on with out it LOL
If OYE questioned if Morgan was partying with Tarheel then she isn’t as close to Morgan as we think. I am now thinking she is a friend of a friend.
*Edit* if OYE questioned if Morgan was partying with Tarheel (that night) then she isn’t as close to Morgan as we think.
jpo,
Comment by Tarheel — December 16, 2009 @ 11:51 am
Thinking further on the party, she could have told her friends that she would “hitch a ride” but she meant with someone she knew.
Comment by OPEN YOUR EYES — December 16, 2009 @ 7:29 pm
I still feel that Morgan texted someone who was still at the house where they’d been partying before the concert, and was planning on returning to the party with this guy. . . .
Tarheel?
Alexandra (comment #898)
A “fugue state” is usually seen in persons with a dissociative disorder, of which Morgan did not show evidence, and it is extremely rare. I feel that with Dr. Harrington’s psychiatric expertise, if his daughter suffered from a dissociative disorder, he would have broadcast that to the public from the beginning as a big clue in finding her or looking for her. It is true that a person can suffer amnesia after a head trauma, but again, this is rare.
Hey, Localgirl !!
I knew eventually that Misty Mnt would call to you eventually : )
Mom’s advice to make sure people know where you are is sound, but I have to ‘confess’ I’d do the same thing if I lived near there —
Your input at the local level is just invaluable — I hope you know that —
as well as everyone’s input — I read these posts and always am amazed by the “artistry” and depth of the comments.
This is way OT, but I got just devastating personal news today — my position has been “eliminated” and as of Friday, like so many of the people I assist in my job, I am losing mine.
On the bright side, I’ll have plenty of time to read Blink ! : (
Dar: I to thought I had an account at Morgan’s Angels also. Questioner seems to have locked it up, as well as Annies page. I was trying to go and read some more about all the SGM stuff she had. And it gave me the same response. Tried to log in and could not. Guess she has decided that she wants to keep control over who is in and out, and what others see that she has put up, when she denies putting anything concerning names or pics of anyone, anywhere to the people on findmorgan. By the way Blink, I like that you put up the copyright disclaimer. LOL, guess she got the picture what with her absolute denial of using anything she has found here. Misty Mountain sounds like a nice place, I read up on it. But there sure are a lot of woods back there. I looked at it on Google Maps as well. As far as someone asking where Morgan and her friends were ‘camoing’ at in a pic they saw, i am not sure, a lot of them used to go to the lake,SML and Claytor…
*camping
sorry typos!
Where was it said that Morgan was acting “combative” in the car and at the concert? I must have missed that post.
mary, I love Poe, too! You need to go to Baltimore to see his house and visit his grave—like the mysterious person who will visit in 6 days, bwa ha ha! Here’s a snippet:
“One of Baltimore’s spookiest traditions occurs every year on January 19, Poe’s birthday, at the cemetery where the famous author is buried. A mysterious man steps out of the shadows at the Westminster Church Yard, wearing a black coat and hat, with a scarf covering his face. He stops at Poe’s grave, and leaves a half-full bottle of cognac and three roses. Then he steals away into the darkness. It has been like this every year since 1949.” http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/01/19/poe.grave.ap/index.html
Also, there’s a big to-do coming up this Saturday where Poe’s descendants will state which city THEY think can lay claim to his legacy http://www.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/poe/bal-ae.poe10jan10,0,1651194.story.
elpy, I’ve never thought that pic looked like Shannon. It looks alot like a guy I knew growing up, and sgm doesn’t look like that guy, ergo (to me) the guy in the pic ain’t sgm.
I also think he’s being truthful about friending pretty girls as ‘low hanging fruit’ (since FB is a numbers game).
Whether or not he ever tried to friend Morgan—I guess I don’t get how that would matter, unless we think he abducted her because she rejected him, but that sounds like kind of a stretch.
J2K – I completely agree with you that OYE has been created in to something she is not. She may even be in the photo with Morgan, but I can give you a couple of hundered photos of me from college with girls 2-3 people down who just always happened to be at the same parties and I never really got to know them that well, just who they were. I think same for OYE.
I also think she was b*tchy because thats just the way you are when you are in college, and smart enough to follow message boards and forums and was insecure and posting as someone “on the ground”- it was more condescending than anything. but I also think she was trying to be helpful as well, like you do.
OYE – you are totally welcome here, even though I just got here myself. It seems to be a cool group of people
Momof3 – I think you are a really caring and good person. Just putting that out there.
Also, I do think OYE knows info, just really not enough, and would be surmising like the rest of us.
jpo – that was a mistake or a misquote. It wasnt OYE who asked if it was a Tarheel. I cant remember who it was, but I would have noted it if it was OYE, because then that would have been interesting…(it still is, but you know what I mean)
Blink – I say this with most respect; I think it was kind of mean to Sigh at alexandra’s suggestions of Fugue. I totally agree that this theory is not one to consider, but you have always said that until it can be disproved, it remains possible. Also, there was the case of the girl in NYC recently who had amnesia and for a week the media was requesting that people identify her, until someone in MD called in to the police and told them who she was – she was from Washington state and had no idea how she got to NYC or who she was. While this is 99.9% not the case with Morgan, alexandra mentioned it could be a possibility. I guess one would ask why even post it at all…but I think we are all here for one reason, Morgan, and everyone is just helping out.
xx
I just don’t think that if someone looks pale and sickly in a few pictures it is a given that she is struggling with something. And as for her parents referring to her as “our baby” , of course they did/do. Our children are always our babies on some level. My 10 year-old would have a heart attack if I called her “baby girl” in front of her friends. But if I were standing up in front of national media pleading for her return, I don’t care if she was 102 years old. I would probably refer to her as my baby.
And as for Morgan’s parents having her passwords, I know many people with teenagers and every single one of them pays a lot of attention to their child’s activities on the Internet. They generally helped their kiddos set up email/Facebook accounts and are usually Facebook friends with their child. Now, does that mean that the kiddo hasn’t created secret accounts or will change passwords immediately upon heading to college, I have no idea. But everyone of my friends would stand before a national audience and confidently claim they had the passwords, there were no secrets and that their child was naive..
As for the bank account issue. In college, my parents were on my bank account too. They had to co-sign when I initially set it up. When I was in college they put money in my account every now and again and even though they didn’t struggle financially, I sure as heck did. If my dad said he was going to help me balance my checkbook due to some over-drafts it would be code for “you had better get your butt over here explain yourself and tell me how you are going to fix it”.
And for heavens sake, judging from the pictures we have seen, I cannot imagine which one of Morgan’s friends would told her not to get drunk at a party. More likely I can hear “don’t drink it all before we get there”
I think OYE has great ideas and comments, but Fish/Skyler made some awfully good points as well. I have to give all of you a standing ovation!
And Redly, that was really insightful. Smart move on the Harrington’s part.
Mosaic: Nice to know there are several of us “right brain” folks in the mix. Helps to balance the perspective.
I have believed from the beginning that the unusual track of this case has separated it from the “normal” or “usual” MP case. In my view, the purposeful dissemination of sparse information, the seemingly endless array of contradictory statements, and the lack of “chatter” from ANYONE, points to the fact that:
1. LE has a POI that was identified early and they are amassing irrefutable evidence for conviction and/or they are gathering specific information on Morgan’s location.
2. LE has a POI or POI’s believed to be linked to other crimes and are building a solid, air tight case. This might necessitate working with other jurisdicitons and cause an apparent slow down in the public’s eyes.
3. There is a larger more involved illegal activity that is linked directly or peripherally to Morgan’s disappearance and the investigation has increased in scope and range with a myriad of agencies involved.
4. LE has no idea what is going on and they are “shot gunning” to try and get a direction.
I refuse to believe the last choice, so it leaves me with three options (I’m sure there are innumerable others, but I need to gain some focus, so at this time I am limiting my choices.) I will refill my Thinking Goblet and continue to muse. I truly believe if there was a crazed lunatic wandering in Charlottesville, LE would have immediately warned the public. Therefore, they appear to be looking in a very specific and defined direction. I, too, feel a break is close.
Off Topic…..
Momof3 wrote:
“J2K, Chad, regarding the flask being confiscated. IMO sometimes teachers, security guards ect confiscate and keep things for themselves and others they know, …Maybe whomever confiscated it,liked it and kept it instead of making a report….”
I had to laugh at this.
Today alone during exam review, I got a pint of Jack Daniels, a really cool cell phone and ….
I am just joking!
Seriously though, when our students could have tobacco on their person without penalty (that shows how long I have been a teacher), I would always get the smokers to leave their cigarettes with me so they wouldn’t sneak a smoke in the restroom.
While they were in the restroom, I would break their cigs into little bitty pieces and put them back in the package.
When they returned from the restroom, I would return their cigs and just smile! I am sure they had some choice words for me when they left school in the afternoons and needed a smoke!
Since I last posted, I have had a number of misgivings about my current line of thinking (not the first time I have questioned it since Oct. 17). I did wake up thinking that I had made a huge leap in giving too much credibility to the heroin rumor … I looked at some of Morgan’s pictures and said, “no way”. But then, I remembered the sad death of Alicia Lannes in Centreville, Va and I must concede that these things happen, whether I recognize that in my sheltered life or not. Whether this in any way is related to Morgan, of course I do not know that. But I am less likely to discount it now, than I would have in the first couple of weeks after her disappearance, when I was firmly in the stranger abduction camp.
Momof3, others — I too, don’t know if Open Your Eyes knows things directly or not, but I certainly think that she is just a degree or two from the circle of friends and I think was identified as someone in one of the pictures. One thing is true: she knows more than I do…. And much of her “knowledge” may be based on her knowledge of Morgan’s habits or past behavior, rather than direct knowledge of events of that night. I expect that whatever she knows — whether her knowledge is direct or friend-of-a-friend rumor — has in fact been reported to the police, whether by her or someone else privy to the same rumors. Certainly at this point, the police are aware of parties that took place that night. I must believe that OYE and the other friends are talking — just not to us. And I continue to think that what feels like silence to us on the part of the police, on the part of friends, etc., is a directive from the authorities to not say anything in an attempt to continue to protect Morgan and her reputation. The whole matter feels “off” to me and has from the beginning, but a lot of this could be attributable to the initial attempt (and continuing attempt) not to portray Morgan as a careless drunk for whom people would lose sympathy and interest.
I frequently suffer from insomnia at night, tossing and turning about some trivial matter at work. It has occurred to me at various times since October during these sleepless bouts that Mrs. Harrington is probably awake at the same hour, tossing and turning for a much more profound reason. I grieve for her and Mr. Harrington, and I know that I share that sentiment with so many of you on this board. There is something about this case that hurts beyond words.
Lovely,
The friends that are posted with Morgan in the picture are “friends” OK? These girls are not “Oh, take a picture of me once with you please girls”. These girls HANG out together. OYE is one of those girls. Just because she wasn’t part of the “9″, doesn’t mean that she isn’t in the know. I know that you mentioned you had pictures taken a time or 2 of girls that you didn’t know when you were in college. If you went missing, perhaps if LE asked them about you if you were missing, they probably would say they didn’t know you. But OYE is not saying that here. That does not mean the same applies to Morgan. OYE, I believe knows MORGAN…I believe it is evident in her posts.
I have a 19 year old daughter. Freshman in college. She has a very wide range and a vast of of friends. She is definitely closer to some more others. She has a ton of pics in her FB with friends. If my daughter were ever to go missing, just like Morgan did, ANY friend, who could provide information as to what they thought she was doing, or would or do, would certainly have credibility to me. I would want to know from the friends. Whether OYE is on the peripheal, or on the inside, I believe what she has to say matters and has credibility within some of those statements.
Also, OYE is not, and has not distanced herself from Morgan at all. Perhaps he hasn’t posted lately, and also I will add only in one instance, that she did say that she thought the photo was “photoshopped”. (The phot of her and Morgan and 2 other friends which blink has posted) Which I translated as wanting to distance herself from Morgan, but yet, despite that, she still posted.
OYE has been the only friend, or acquaintance that has come forward to give clues, or talk openly about what she thinks. The others are silent. To me, this speaks volumes, and it should to all of us, and I hope to you to Lovely.
I know this is a long shot, but it is possible that Morgan had serious drug issues earlier, thus her transfer to a new school and apparent (according to OYE)frustration of friends.If the last six months had been good, according to Morgan’s mom, would a “falling off the wagon” have prompted Morgan to be too ashamed to go home?
I am thinking that maybe she did some drugs that night that resulted in her being very high for many hours.By the time she came down it could have been the next morning, and she realized she would not make the meeting with her dad, her friends would be mad, she would have to explain to her dad that she was not at the concert he had paid for and provided gas to drive to etc. etc. If she had drug issues before, she might be inclined to deal with the stress and panic with more drugs, and by the time she came down, felt it was too late. The police would have been looking for her, her parents really upset, about to fail her Math exam etc. etc.
If OYE is correct, and there were issues with Morgan that the parents denied previously, maybe it was just too difficult for Morgan to face them with what she had done.I would imagine that if that scenario was true, she would lose most of her friends over it as well.Could a twenty year old from a well respected and religious family rationalize that her family would be better off dealing with her being missing than with having to deal with her having drug issues that would be all over the media?
I realize this sounds a little far fetched, but some kids really do not want to disappoint their parents, and I can understand that after a couple of days passed, Morgan might feel trapped. By this time, her friends were under scrutiny from the police, she may have missed her exam and been at risk of failing,all her parents friends would be aware of the situation, everyone at the university would know.
Maybe she just couldn’t face the music, especially if her parents were in denial about earlier drug use and she had never really come clean with it.She would realize that once the police were involved and her friends shared what they knew about her, that she might have to explain a lot more than just one night of bad judgement.
I know that when I was her age, I would have had a very hard time facing my parents if I was living on their dollar,and had to explain that I was not the little girl they thought I was.
If something like this happened, then she would have to have someone helping her to hide, and my thoughts are that only a very few people would agree to do this.Possibilities: a druggy love interest, a friend who also had secret drug issues, or her source.
I wonder if Dr. H’s comments come from a connection he is making in his own mind, at least, of the “suspicious” death (how it was defined by our local TV station) of Kristan Fox and Morgan’s disappearance.
There is also another missing girl from WV, and I do not know geographically how far that is from Roanoke, etc. I know if you drive up 81 north, you go thru Harrisonburg (JMU) and then thru WV and then into MD. And then there’s Cassandra Mortan in Lynchburg to the west.
That is 2 deaths and 2 MPs in close proximity in both time and location. Which, to me, is just ridiculous.
Fletch, I think you said it best: There is something about this case that hurts beyond words.
J2k, Hi,
Respectfully, you did not begin posting here until the 4th or 5th article about Morgan of Blink’s. Would you be surprised to know that in the first threads drinking was only mentioned approximately 10x? That is out of 100′s of posts. It for the most part, was briefly mentioned as a possibly reason Morgan left the arena 4 of those times.
I agree maybe Oye based her theory on one of your posts, maybe she based it on any # of posts. But IMO her being a friend of Morgan, lends credence to her posts that you or I don’t have, she knows Morgan she knows her good and bad points, and she knows the party spots. I agree also that she is Romona, I base this on her “status”
Again, I don’t know if OYE in fact KNOWS anything concrete, but you don’t either and your total dismissal/snarkiness kindof hurts, ya know? Especially since my concern is not about OYE, it is about party spots and possible disposal spots of Morgan. I think searching the MMC ground would be a good thing, also any of the other possible party spots.
Clem, thanks for wearing the sorting hat. I’ve driven myself into a virtual nautilus on FB today.
OYE is older than MH. She is friends of a friend of a friend. She only knows what she has been told. I heard a strong voice in “don’t get drunk at that party” and consider that a viable lead.
However, as you all have maintained, we only know what has been revealed to us by LE.
Or do we?