Morgan Harrington Case: An Appeal To * You Know Who*
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Charlottesville, VA–The disappearance of Morgan Harrington, missing since October 17, 2009 is exhibiting the potential to reach a temperature that is currenlty encompassing the Northeast: VERY COLD.
Through the thousands of posts at blinkoncrime.com and numerous articles covering Morgan, it is clear that frustration in the lack of lead generation and ambiguous statements from the Virginia State Police are causing some to lack conviction Morgan will be found.
In a recent press conference by VSP, LE provided NO NEW information or progress regarding Morgan’s case. In a shift of posture by the Harrington family, Dr. Harrington has begun participating in online chat and sponsored an additional facebook site to help the efforts to find his daughter.
In fact, for the first time in 2.5 months, we know what kind of camera Morgan had with her the evening of the Metallica concert from his research.
In contrast, we have viewed footage and photos of her dear friends that have clearly moved on without the knowledge of their friends plight.
Girls will be girls you say? Before one person comes on here to tell me I am being too critical of these young women you should know that due to a fortunate Facebook update, describing these girls as Morgan’s friends is entirely generous.
Furthermore, if you happen to be one of the parents that has provided booze for underage minors captured on digital for all to see you may wish to take a peek at what is on your daughter’s social sites.
Have you thought about what it would be like to be Gil or Dan while your linin’ it up and throwin’ em back WITH your kids?
Fortunately, this is not the focus today. I do not feel Morgan’s friends did anything to directly cause her fate. They are more “ME” than frienemy, that is evident.
Gil Harrington, posting on the families site findmorgan.com, wrote one of the most eloquent and courageous posts from the Mother of a missing child I have ever read.
The snowfall is beautiful but still disturbing – melancholy. Wonder if Morgan is cold – is snow falling on her face – or is her face covered by leaves in a shallow grave being hidden by the snow. I glance out the window and see the crimson blaze of a cardinal at the bird feeder – my heart leaps for a second at the beauty – then I think its feathers look like blood in the snow. Is that what Morgan’s blood looks like in the snow? See how the pitfalls are everywhere – even at the bird feeder.
In a somewhat angst-ridden moment, a poster on blinkoncrime.com suggested any and all witnesses in this case should be subject to repeated Barry Manilow songs until they confess.
It jogged a memory for me that reminded me that I am proudly my Father’s daughter. Morgan is Dan Harrington’s daughter.
Maybe someone, somewhere, has just not approached that perspective.
In response to the MAN-i-low dis-
Blink prefacing below to say: yes, off topic, and yes, I am on cold meds, but y’all went after the “MAN ilow”. < ?xml:namespace prefix ="" o />
Barry holds a special place in the heart of my family. When I was a kid I used to play dress up with my Mom’s clothes. If a pair of her way-too-big-for-me heels was “done”, she would let me cut off the ankle straps and dance around in them as slides.
One afternoon, when I should have been doing my homework, I was blaring Copa Cabana in my Parents study dressed like a thriftshop showgirl and when ” Who could ask for more…at the Copa” part came on, I kicked like a 12 year old Rockette and launched my “slide/RPG” into the ceiling.
There it stayed.
I threw everything I could find at that shoe to dislodge it. Nothing.
Except for the new marks on the scalloped ceiling.
Later, when unbeknownst to me, my Dad was reading his 12 daily newspapers in the study, I thought I might try another idea.
I jumped as hard as I could at the spot upstairs above where the slutslipper was lodged.
It worked on the 3rd try.
How do I know?
I heard a “S o n o f a …..” , then something that sounded like a combination of my first and middle names with a swear word interjected that was rising in tone and volume, and now coming my way.
As I hit the hallway to head to the other direction or squeeze myself unnaturally under something, there He was
My Dad, evidence in hand, smiling wryly form ear to ear.
“Yours I presume, young lady,” his forearm outstretched gently with the nail to my coffin in his palm.
I responded .. “What makes you say that?
Could be ketchup or mustards..”
(Lame editors note: do NOT ask, my sisters and I had bathing suits that matched when we were little that were red, yellow and white, respectively, it stuck to this day, I was Mayo)
He replied .. ” Because I know, this weekend, when you fish out your overalls and help me fix the ceiling before your Mother notices, you would rather do that than whatever she comes up with so we can be all done here. The End. ( Blink dad making the wipe hands clean gesture)
She has been talking about repainting the Family room for months, I would LOVE some help with that…”
“Yes Sir.” I muttered with a matching grimace.
“Can I have it back?” I asked.
“I would say your dancing days are on hold, dear daughter, for the foreseeable future, as are your TV privliges.”
“Anything else? ” I asked.
“Why yes, there is. If you choose to dance through the house with wreckless abandon, next time, do it when your homework is finished and in your tennis shoes. And can you please try to be more like your Mother and less like me?”
“Doubtfull Deets, doubtful.”
With that carefully measured tween rhetort I skipped down the hall, crisis averted and I am still Dad’s fave.
I can live with the painting. Wonder if I can pick the color??
I chose to share this very personal exchange with my Daddy because it dawned on me that maybe someone that reads this does not understand what Morgan’ s Father (and family, but this reference is strictly male) needs from them.
He was her protector. He is her ceiling fixer.
You have to give him back what you took so he can fix it for her and their family.
He does not care who you are or what you may have done.
You can do this for them now. Have faith that anything can be fixed. Anything.
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Comment by PM1 — January 13, 2010 @ 4:01 pm
Going Rouge
WOW , just as I was about to head over the edge in frustration ,you reeled me into reality like a avid fisherman . What a beautiful picture you painted .
Now please tell me your single , under 80 , have your own boat and love to fish .
Dakota
PM1 (re: #983)
*clink*
Great posts so far, PM1. I’m glad you emerged from lurkitude- and even brought your own Thinking Goblet!
(Have you tried the biscuits?)
This, I wholeheartedly agree with:
“I truly believe if there was a crazed lunatic wandering in Charlottesville, LE would have immediately warned the public. Therefore, they appear to be looking in a very specific and defined direction.”
Well said. This angle of logic has shaped my perspective from the beginning. LE was presented with a young, striking college student attending an event several hours from her home and far from her usual crowd, but is inexplicably separated from the friends with which she traveled there. This soon-tragic twist of fate occurs right in the epicenter of UVA’s premier new entertainment complex on a bustling campus nestled at the corner of a city, (which – *dork alert* – was ranked the best place to live in the country a few years back). Within a mere hour of being turned away from JPJ’s concert venue and crossing Massie Road into the cold, damp night, she vanishes… leaving behind just enough personal belongings to cast an ominous cloud over her fate.
No one comes forward; but, she was vague over the phone with the friends still inside the show (allegedly!), leaving her keys with them then texting a person/people as she purposely made her way to the main road into/out of town, and was only witnessed in the area for another 30 minutes before entering a vehicle never to be heard from again.
Three months, three(?) press conferences and hundreds of interviews later, nary a warning is floated out the Cville community, yet every (insinuated) indication from LE, the family and her friends is that she was abducted and murdered/being held against her will.
However, localcvillegirl and others attest that no warnings for young, lone females have been issued during the time she’s been missing; no obvious additional police presence has been noted weekend nights on campus/at major JPJ events. Whatever occurred “happened in the Cville area”; yet no noticed VSP-led action relative to her case has occurred in the direct area.
Talk about cognitive dissonance.
So, with that in mind (and Goblet in hand), it seems fairly obvious that, based on what LE initially uncovered – which the public is clearly not privy to – a sketch of a POI or an actual POI was developed and is being pursued.
Okay. But that theory has a shelf life. And as the months flip by, with the terrible toll this incomprehensible ordeal is taking on the Harringtons absorbed in real time, one starts to question that embedded, logical assumption and grow increasingly skeptical.
That said, I agree with those, including B, who are detecting a “chatter” in the energy surrounding the case.
It’s hard to focus one’s thoughts, however, when LE uses the most recent press conference to ask for an additional non-specific array of witnesses (“Hey – anybody work with any weirdos who have gotten weirder lately?”… “See any freaks at a recent Metallica concert?”)
And posters on this thread have been asking a (theoretical) still-frightened-but-noncriminal witness to talk to LE for months now. It’s hard to fathom why LE is still making that plea publicly – haven’t they zeroed in on a circle of MH-centric peripheral pals or some such individual (or even a local in over his head) yet? I’m not losing faith in the investigation, per se, but my eyes are starting to cross from watching the pot, waiting for it to boil…
/vent over.
Skyler I am sorry to hear about your recent job loss. I hope you will find something really soon,although I must admit, I look forward to having you post more frequently… Hang in there friend.
mamy, In a previous thread, Morgan’s use of Hallucinogenics and combativeness was brought to light by an anonymous tipster. It has not been confirmed, but seems credible. Go back and search on the last thread.
Lovely,thanks for the kind words, but I’m with Chad on this one LOL
Also the Tarheel? was from OYE, she was referring to a comment localcvillegirl had made.
Chad, thanks for your continued contributions, nice to see we are still on the same wavelength, even though we disagree sometimes.
Fletch, I too go back and forth on my beliefs. I so wish Morgan’s story would have a happy ending. Don’t feel bad about changing your thinking, I do it often.
elpy, great post.I agree that if drugs was a part of Morgan’s life she could have possibly just walked away. Your scenario IMO is just as plausible as any other.
jpo, I don’t believe that Tarheel is the Tarheel OYE was referring to FWIW.
Sally Lou, I am glad I could make you laugh. Much respect to you on being a teacher. For a # of years I was a paraprofessional, so I know of what you speak. Teachers desk drawer’s often times reminded me of the scene from A Christmas Story, when the teacher confiscates the fake teeth….At the end of the year, my, what a vast array of stuff they had.
s2dZ ,,,
whachu talkin bout Z? Ma main man Po belong to the Iladelph (das Philly to ma peeps wit-out a tranzmographa). Check yo histy,, rudy foo!
Lovely re: OYE/”Tarheel?”
That *is* her comment. (Head north on a scroll tour toward Jan. 9/10… I don’t have the will right now. Bedtime.)
peapod re: [applause] to your line -
“And for heavens sake, judging from the pictures we have seen, I cannot imagine which one of Morgan’s friends would told her not to get drunk at a party. More likely I can hear “don’t drink it all before we get there.”
Momof3 – re: OYE/”Tarheel?”
I didn’t intend to skip you, Mom. (And I’m not much of a cap-wearer myself.)
You said:
“Oye did not speculate the first part, she was stating, oh you mean Tarheel…at least to my way of thinking. ”
That’s not how I was interpreting it.
(OYE: “still feel that Morgan texted someone who was still at the house where they’d been partying before the concert, and was planning on returning to the party with this guy. . . .
Tarheel?”)
But your point does make me reach for my now-empty Goblet.
I’d have took at Tarheelplaya’s post where he answered questions again, but I don’t think he got that specific did he? (Assuming you mean she was essentially saying “…per Tarheel’s post?”) To me, it reads like the sort of guess we’ve all ventured here and there, attempting to plug into the template an individual who has been determined to know her in some way.
No way to tell, though.
(OYE? Care to weigh in? …Is thing on? *tap tap tap*)
Alrighty then. Lights off.
PM1 # 940,
Excellent post.Thank you for laying it all out there in such a succinct way. I hope there is a break soon.
Comment by Enquirer — January 13, 2010 @ 8:52 pm
I havent seen this mentioned before, but thought i’d shine a light on it: The individual that OYE indicates as a party goer who may have been in direct contact with M is an ex-con with a hang of a lot of issues, especially temper related issues…..
Enquirer,
What individual are you referencing and where did you get the information about him? Sorry but can you shine that light a little brighter?
Enquirer, you wrote earlier that you were leaning towards a different scenario. If you can, will you elaborate please, also would like to hear more regarding your FB research.
Jane, I agree there should be pics out there, perhaps LE has them,or sadly, they may have been lost with Morgan’s camera.
peapod, thank you for sharing your thoughts, I agree Fish, Skyler and J2K always give well thought out comments, that tend to have a great deal of merit.
Okay, off to bed now, see you all tomorrow, Hopefully things will be closer to a happy ending to this nightmare, g-night all.
**#925 Comment by Enquirer — January 13, 2010 @ 8:52 pm
I havent seen this mentioned before, but thought i’d shine a light on it: The individual that OYE indicates as a party goer who may have been in direct contact with M is an ex-con with a hang of a lot of issues, especially temper related issues…..
Did everyone see this post? Enquirer Can you elaborate alittle more on this?
elpy, yep, i do think that’s a possible scenario. have certainly known someone who ran away at 19 when they knew failing college grades were on the way and the ‘rents would be mad. i guess she could have been so inebriated as to have lost the purse, and that could have added to her “omigod, my folks will kill me” stress
“Comment by radiogirl — January 13, 2010 @ 9:00 pm
Is there some meaning behind tarheel that i don’t know about?When i think of tar ,I think of pavement.”
The first thing I think of is University of North Carolina Tar Heels
Skyler I’m so sorry about your job loss. Things are just crazy and it’s not a good time to be unemployed. I’ll be thinking about you, and hoping that something will come up soon.
It’s funny, when I drove into the campground yesterday I felt like I had all of you in the car with me. Some were frowning, but most were hooting and hollering when I hunkered down in my seat and drove on past the Stop sign. Skyler I think you were in the passenger seat.
I think early on we heard LE say they were only concerned with what happened after Morgan left the concert, so I guess they know (or think they know) everything that happened up to that point. Hard to believe, as I doubt those girls really came clean. But I’m sure they’ve got all the photos we’ve been wondering about, and probably know exactly where they were from 2pm until they went into JPJ. This doesn’t make me feel any better…I’m still frustrated with everything we don’t know.
Mary, please do come spend some time in Charlottesville and Albemarle County. It’s so beautiful here, the people are friendly, and I promise you’ll feel very safe.
Local, I agree with your asessment.
Sky- I missed the job loss, so sorry.
B
elpy — I think that your theory has as much validity as any others that have been posted. Certainly it is possible. And in many respects would be the best outcome possible.
Lovely, thank you for sticking up for me to Blink but I must say I didn’t feel offended. I think Blink knows that I am hoping for an alive Morgan and I am just trying to make what I want fit. I want to believe the sighting at Zions Xroads Sunday morning after the concert. I want to believe she is with a female and was also seen in Charles Town. Elpi’s idea in post 947 is what I wish to be true. I am probably older than many of you and yet I must be the most naive. This site, to me, is a “think tank”. Diversity coming together to think on one subject. Very powerful all these minds working together. I am an airline employee. I want so much for Morgan to be found and returned to her family. Morgan and all of your theories are on my mind
24/7 and until she is found. I have a 24 yr old autistic daughter with the mind of a 7 yr old, and a 20 yr old daughter in college about 2 hrs from home. We are all from different cheese and we are all trying to work together for something good that’s what makes BOC special
Yes, I most certainly meant no offense. I admit I have a certain prejudice when it comes to the “she’s being held against her will somewhere,” theory. I always feel like it gives a BG room to breathe for another day. I will try to be less pessimistic.
B
ok, everyone, I stand corrected!!
Highlander – I think of the North Carolina Tarheels too…
Momof3, Chad, etc. – I didnt mean she didnt know Morgan on an actual level, just meant she didnt really know her as a person. I still stand by what I said about OYE, but I may have been a little harsh on her.
OYE – I apologize, as I said before, this seems to be a good group of people…come hang out with us.
Skyler – I work in HR and know tons of people across the country, depending on your location and profession I may be able to connect you to some people.
Sorry again for posting without all my facts straight…Ill try to keep up a little better and be more substansive in my posts.
Top o’ the morning to you all!
Momof3, radiogirl, HIghlander re: “tarheel”
I only know “tarheel” as a reference to North Carolina, and, more specifically, UNC’s basketball team. Not sure how that would fit here except as a nod to the Web Sleuth commenter/self-claimed-friend of the Fiends (Tarheelplaya), who answered some questions for the psychics awhile back.*
*That marks the end of my speculation on the comments of someone no longer participating in the conversation.
sky – I, too, am sorry to hear about your layoff. But I’m sure with your positive attitude you’ll turn it into an opportunity.
RE:
OYE: “still feel that Morgan texted someone who was still at the house where they’d been partying before the concert, and was planning on returning to the party with this guy. . . .
Tarheel?”
When I read this post, I read it as OYE asking Tarheel’s thoughts on it. Like…. “Tarheel? Any thoughts?”
Also, “Tarheelplaya”, who was posting as a friend of a friend on another site, answering questions RE: the friends that night, and “Tarheel”, who was posting on this site, are two different people.
Blink, I’ve posted as Shannon (only once, I think), but decided a name change might be in order. I know it’s not usually allowed, but I think it might be appropriate given the infamous (other) Shannon. If it’s not ok, let me know.
Skyler, I’m sorry about your job loss. I firmly believe everything happens for a reason – sometimes it’s easy to see, but sometimes not. Keep your head up…
Blink has said that she believes something will be happening soon in this case. I really hope she’s right. I just wish there was more I could do.
My thoughts are with the Harringtons.
To clear things up, so no one wastes time on me, I live in Georgia and have never even been to the state of Virginia. The user name Tarheel was simply used because I’m a big Tarheel basketball fan…even though they stink this year. And, I’m a female.
I know how Mrs. Harrington feels about the BG having such an effect on your life. It happened to me. I am sorry to Morgan’s friends if I said anything bad about them. I only wish they would have felt alright with coming here and talking openly in an effort to help find Morgan. Secrecy creates suspicion. Silence creates suspicion. We just want to find Morgan.
Gil Harrington’s thoughts from January 4thOn January – 14 – 2010ADD COMMENTS
January 4, 2010
I traveled to New York City with Alex to shore him up a bit. This is a tough, cold, hard city to survive in when you have your full vigor; but when you are shattered with grief it is absolutely overwhelming. I am determined that Alex does more than just survive – that he does more than eke out an existence in this city. I will do whatever is necessary to ensure his success. I won’t allow the person who abducted Morgan to derail Alex’s future. I won’t allow him to derail our marriage. I won’t tolerate the destruction of Morgan’s friends. No collateral damage, Basta! I will not accept any more injury from Morgan’s abductor.
We will find Morgan and build our family anew. I have to remain strong because she will need us when that reunion happens. We must stay grounded in our relationships and love/ Love is greater than fear and will prevail – even in this place.
Radiogirl, “Tarheel” is the mascot for the University of North Carolina — the Carolina Tarheels. I take it you’re even less of a sports fan than I!
Enquirer, please share more. You’re speaking of someone specific but I’ve no idea who.
angeleyes: by SML I assume you mean Smith Mountain Lake? Talk about a giant haystack (everyone, it’s a vacation lake that is accessible from C’ville via Rte 29S but is not super convenient to C’ville, ie, I kinda doubt they were partying there pre-Metallica). My visits there have only been to family vacation homes. Where are the camping opportunities there and at Claytor? Do you think they preferred organized camping grounds, or did they set up on land owned by friends/friends’ families?
Skyler: yuck, I am so sorry about the job. Thinking of you.
Local: You are a budding investigator! I would’ve driven through, too. Did you see people or cars?
Blink: Can you share with us whether SM has quit posting?
He has not quit trying to post offensive derogatory comments about women, but I will not make this site his hobby.
B
Momof3 – (re: #943)
I apologize that I missed your comment to me upthread until now; I’m always popping back and forth between this thread and something I’m working on, so I do miss posts and invariably end up repeating a point alraedy made, or, in this case, not addressing a perceived slight. On that note, I regret to have come across as dismissive or snarky toward you in my op-ed on the significance of OYE’s posts (#908). First, that was not directed at you; I was just expressing my general frustration with having to sift through multiple re-posts and montages of her comments (which I appreciated at the time they were posted, mind you) in order to read the thoughts of the people who *are* here now and actively thinking/posting/conversing about this case.
I did show up at the proverbial party late, in regard to BOC, but I’d read articles about MH’s initial disappearance and the efforts to find her elsewhere, as well as the comments on those news sites. Like me, a number of people took her age, pictures with friends, vaguely strange/incomprehensible behavior/situation in context with the evening/event, and concluded alcohol, drugs or both were involved. Maybe because I’m only a decade removed, it was my first conclusion. So, from my perspective, it was not a revelation from OYE that there was a party at some point and MH excessively imbibed. I do not think OYE *based* her theories on one or any of my posts; I think they were similar to her own line of thinking, and you are absolutely right – if she is indeed a friend/one-time friend/acquaintance of MH’s, that lends more credence to what she speculates or shares. I think all of your questions to her and assessments of what she has already posted are insightful and may prove revelatory, and I wish I had expressed myself better in regard to my belief that the initially promising reservoir of insight we hoped OYE held has run dry – unless she gets any new info and shares it here. I never dismiss your comments, and I keep a reserve of snark only for those who deserve it, which is certainly not yourself. Accept the apolly goblet? (Or perhaps a limited-edition JtodaK-s2dZ Pocket Translator?)
Good morning All,
Just catching up on the posts again……
Skyler,
Everyday, I hear of a friend, or someone being laid off. I wish you the best of luck. I hope you will continue to post and hang out with us.
So sorry to hear of your job situation.
Lovely: You were not harsh at all on OYE. I respect your opinion, and it is really OK if we all do not think the same way or have the same opinions. That is what makes this site so colorful and fun.
Enquirer: Can you share perhaps what your thinking is on Tarheels? Anyone want to guess who this may be?
Momof3: I am gonna hang out on your wavelength if thats OK? LOL.
I will be taking my daughter to the airport this morning, to head back to college, (She had a 5 week Christmas break) and I need to go now. Another long goodbye. So I will check back in later.
Have a great day all!
A have to question Morgan’s condition the night she went missing.
First of all how out of it she actually was?
I have wondered all along if Morgan is one of those people that have a low tolerance to alcohol.
This may be why the “Don’t get drunk” comment was made.
I have friends who have this problem and it is very difficult and tiresome to deal with. However, I love them and always took care of them. Fortunately, we have out grown those days and I don’t have to deal with that behavior anymore.
But I can tell you that it can get ugly. Absolute Jekyll and Hyde personality change. They would do things that in a sober state they would never consider doing and have no recollection of their actions the next day. (This is where I got my revenge! Being able to tell them what fools they made of themselves) but on the serious side, I had one friend in particular that I had to pull out of strange mens cars, pick up off the ground on many occasions, and I won’t go into all the gory details because I think you get the picture.
This lovely friend ( and I mean that with all my heart ) was a wonderful person sober. She held a very prestigious position would be one of the last persons one would ever think could behave in this manner.
The point I am trying to make here is that if Morgan had this condition. I can totally see her walking straight out of the arena without even a second thought. These individuals never think of consequences. It is all about the then and now. No telling what was going through her mind. Nothing logical I can assure you.
As far as the “boyfriend stilling” comment. Absolutely, my friend would walk straight up to married men and if their wives weren’t around and they were willing; start making out with them in front of God and everyone. She didn’t care about anything when it that condition.
I should point out that it did not take a great amount of alcohol to get her in that state.
The stranger she supposedly walked up to and tried to get him to go with her, then kicked. That is like a de ja vu, I have witnessed that type of interaction on several occassions.
In conclusion, I guess my point here is as much I as wanted too. It was impossible for me to keep my eye on her at all times and sometimes bad things happened. Thank God nothing like this, but none the less BAD.
Now I don’t want everyone out there to get the impression that I am some kind of crazy bar fly, these things would take place while at a happy hour get together after a hard work week, or going to a concert together. Innocent things.
Thought this post from the previous thread needed another read:
**COMMENT by wanttohelp — January 6, 2010 @ 11:46 am
“I just wanted to chime in here that the statement made to Lee by the Uva police also brought my blood dangerously close to the boiling point.
I agree the officer gave this statement as an implicit warning along the lines of: Morgan’s abduction was the direct result of her drinking/altered state.
No, no, no! Her drinking did not cause her to be abducted–the behaviors of the abductor are what caused her harm! Yes, we should all educate our kids about personal safety and to never let down their guard, but they are kids and still learning!
If anything, the campus police need to take a much more pro-active role in teaching students about personal safety and self-protection. They also need to be present at events like the concert, not just to maintain peace, but to protect our children. Where exactly were they that evening, and what steps were they taking to keep the concert goers safe? That’s what I would like to know.”
**RESPONSE from Blink:
“OK. I am going to go there.
There is a pervasive preconception among some members of UVA PD, that has spilled over to civillians who they have spoken to about this case, that Morgan Harrington was drunk, believed to be on a hallucinagenic and was obnoxious and combative ON THE WAY TO JPJ in the car.
I am not saying this because it’s a rumor, I am saying this because this was said to me personally by a confirmed source.
There is more I am choosing not to post because I am concerned it will “out” said source.
We have a fat lot of disjoints in information circling “within” an investigative agency. We have confirmation of the fact that on some level, UVA PD is blaming Morgan’s “impaired status” on what happened to her-
I call that a guess considering nobody knows where she is or who is responsible.
So I ask, if she were so flagrantly impaired as is alleged, why was she not arrested? I have provided the arrest logs from the JPJ arena that evening. There were plenty for drinking/underage drinking. Why hasn’t someone come forward from security stating she was asked to leave because of it?
I have an idea, can someone on campus do me a favor and pull the incident report on the stolen purse filed on 10/17 9:30PM?
Let’s just clear this up .
B”
My mousey interpretation of this is that UVA is putting out a somewhat distorted picture of Morgan that evening. My question is how and by whom did this “picture come to be, and why are they putting this out in to the community? I did not interpret, through Blink’s response and my own take on things, this “picture” to be an accurate one. JMO.
Also, Dan H.’s remarks that the described or witnessed behaviors of his
daughter (taking into consideration alcohol consumption) that night are contrary to what he knows (not only as her father, but as a professional in the broader perspective of college drinking) and are not making sense to him. IMO, Morgan was not “irrational”, rather the picture that has been put out there is “irrational”.
If I can just repeat:
“I have an idea, can someone on campus do me a favor and pull the incident report on the stolen purse filed on 10/17 9:30PM?
Let’s just clear this up .
B”
Anyone able to do this?
Opps! I was referring to Morgan in the kicked stranger comment.
This group definitely dispels the idea that electronic communication is void of emotion and diminishes the element of human contact. Across continients, age, gender and socio-economic strata, this group has become one collective heart, soul and mind. I dare say, we would not have connected on such a personal level “face-to-face” because we each revolve in our own unique circle(s). These are defined by our lives, our experiences, and our cultures and tend to be selectively exclusive. We are not always as open to those who differ from us when they are standing in front of us.
For me, this group highlights the true humanity that exists within us all and the depth of compassion that arises from a forged common goal. While lurking, I grew to know each poster as a friend and I can visualize each of you. The group provides support for each other, support and love for the family, gives a voice to the missing and offers insight and direction to LE.
Blink, you are the consumate enabler. Meant in the kindest way, you have aroused the collective conscience and created a force “to be reckoned with”. Thanks.
Now, psychological musings aside, back to sorting, focusing and thinking. It takes a village to raise a child, but now we know it takes a village to find one. And we will! Thanks for letting me be a part.
TY and welcome.
B
This is OT but does anyone know what restaurant Kristan Fox work for as a waitress? There was an interview with a close friend who worked with her I believe but I can not find it. TIA
Explanation of my comment above:
1. Comment by Tarheel — December 16, 2009 @ 11:35 am
A few notes…
I thought the group was meeting up for a party after the show, not heading “home?” So perhaps Morgan was just looking for a ride to the party, which would have been a lot closer than home. Perhaps she knew that one or more of the basketball players were planning to attend the party?
If the mystery man picked her up in her car, what are the chances he could have gotten the same exact parking space beside the gentleman that claims to have seen them before the show and seen the friends leaving, in Morgan’s car I’m assuming, after the show?
1. Comment by Tarheel — December 16, 2009 @ 11:51 am
Thinking further on the party, she could have told her friends that she would “hitch a ride” but she meant with someone she knew.
1. Comment by OPEN YOUR EYES — December 16, 2009 @ 7:29 pm
I still feel that Morgan texted someone who was still at the house where they’d been partying before the concert, and was planning on returning to the party with this guy. . . .
Tarheel?
1. Comment by Tarheel — December 16, 2009 @ 8:56 pm
Do we know if they were alledgedly partying at JMU or somewhere closer to UVA, or is all the party talk speculation? I’m not local, but if the party was at JMU I don’t think the mystery man would have had time to get to UVA by 9:30 would he?
1. Comment by OPEN YOUR EYES — December 17, 2009 @ 9:10 am
@ Yoshi & Counselor 4u: local comments immediately following MHs disappearance (a couple days after and BEFORE everyone close stopped talking) were that she was at a party. Not sure if before or after the concert. IF after, and if Econolodge comments ring true, should be easy enough for LE to find out who was in rooms. . . or at least who booked them and go from there. Econolodge is a stones throw from JPJ. Look at google maps.
mjh & Momof3, radiogirl, Highlander re: “tarheel”
Ohhhhohohoh. I did not realize there was a poster named Tarheel here(my apollies, Tarheel). It makes sense she was asking this person’s thoughts on her theory about heading to a party from the arena.
But, I had to fact-check.
…. And that was indeed what OYE was referencing. B had replied: “No, not Tarheel, but I agree with you,” which made me interpret it differently than how it was intended.
I think *this* post, specifically, is what OYE responded to with the comment in question, and was asking if Tarheel agreed or could add to it:
Comment by Tarheel — December 16, 2009 @ 11:35 am
“A few notes…
I thought the group was meeting up for a party after the show, not heading “home?” So perhaps Morgan was just looking for a ride to the party, which would have been a lot closer than home. Perhaps she knew that one or more of the basketball players were planning to attend the party?
If the mystery man picked her up in her car, what are the chances he could have gotten the same exact parking space beside the gentleman that claims to have seen them before the show and seen the friends leaving, in Morgan’s car I’m assuming, after the show?”
OYE:
“still feel that Morgan texted someone who was still at the house where they’d been partying before the concert, and was planning on returning to the party with this guy. . . .
Tarheel?”*
*Okay. Seriously. *That* was the last time I chase my tail trying to figure out the meaning of an old comment from a poster not currently posting… only to arrive back where I started, wondering why my tail’s in my mouth.
OT OMG; I wasn’t logging in this week because I was traveling to a meeting with some major paving contractors (no shit). Hey, Mr. Millionaire, would you like to buy our “panzy ass” little company?
Seriously, I just scanned this stuff, and didn’t see anything useful from Mr. McD. Did I miss something?
And am in no way connected to whoever is posting as “tarheelplaya.”
Many people from the roanoke area and further south would consider themselves tarheels (i.e., fans of the UNC basketball team).
Skyler – sorry to hear about your job loss. I know somestimes it’s hard, but try and keep the faith.
#804
What does ATWMP mean? I googled and got 1 hit: ‘Atherton Tablelands Wildfire Mitigation Project’ :S
TIA
Exactly.
Kidding, it means “About to wet my pants”
B
Gil’s most recent blog:
January 4, 2010
I traveled to New York City with Alex to shore him up a bit. This is a tough, cold, hard city to survive in when you have your full vigor; but when you are shattered with grief it is absolutely overwhelming. I am determined that Alex does more than just survive – that he does more than eke out an existence in this city. I will do whatever is necessary to ensure his success. I won’t allow the person who abducted Morgan to derail Alex’s future. I won’t allow him to derail our marriage. I won’t tolerate the destruction of Morgan’s friends. No collateral damage, Basta! I will not accept any more injury from Morgan’s abductor.
We will find Morgan and build our family anew. I have to remain strong because she will need us when that reunion happens. We must stay grounded in our relationships and love/ Love is greater than fear and will prevail – even in this place.
LE–Make the arrest.
Time to stop waiting on the perp to turn himself in and/or to call in a tip about Morgan’s whereabouts. They’ve had plenty of time and they
‘ain’t gonna’ do it.
TIME TO MAKE THE ARREST, LE.
reposted by Momof3:
“Comment by OPEN YOUR EYES — December 11, 2009 @ 3:27 pm
“from the Perez Hilton Metallica Offers Reward: http://perezhilton.com/?p=73740
Post #99:
nakni11 says – reply to this
I’m a VT grad and live near C’ville. It does seem like VT is having its fair share of tragedy in the past couple of years
I really hope Morgan turns up, but to be honest I don’t think it’s very likely that anyone will find her alive.
Oh, and the report about her trying to find a bathroom and finding herself outside the arena was a false report…they’re not disclosing all of the info, for investigative purposes.”
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??? What odd comments by this Perez Hilton poster.
I am sensing things are changing in this case. Blink?
I feel as though there may be a break in the near future, but that is just gut.
B
I haven’t posted for quite some time due to my schedule and also my inability to think of anything that would move the discussion forward. But I am here multiple times a day marveling at all the ideas and information that all of you are putting forth. Thanks to each of you for your continued sleuthing and sorting.
J2K – I’m commenting here today because I had to laugh out loud at your typo when you referred to Tarheel as “a friend of the fiends.” Unfortunately, sometimes I think “fiends” is a good characterization of the friends who were with Morgan that night. Perhaps when this is all over, we will find that the friends have always behaved appropriately and have been assisting LE every step of the way. I sincerely hope so.
Skyler – My heart dropped last night when you spoke of your impending job loss. I always envision you tucked securely in your new home with your border collie by your side, thinking goblet in hand helping all of us understand what you encountered October 17 in Cville. I pray that your skills and experience will help you solve the employment problem in short order. My daughter (today is her birthday) lost her job on October 30 and here in Ohio there are no new jobs in sight. She realizes she will have to leave Ohio to find work, but it’s hard to get a job where you’re not located. I do think VA is in a lot better shape than Ohio. I’m also sending you tons of good vibrations!
J2K, hi, just for clarification OYE did not say this :“still feel that Morgan texted someone who was still at the house where they’d been partying before the concert, and was planning on returning to the party with this guy. . . . Localcvillegirl did.
Oye only wrote “Tarheel?”
mjh, I think you are correct,Tarheel had just started posting. We all were still discussing WSTH posts. It wasn’t until later that our Tarheel stated he was not that Tarheel……
Word Girl,
Hi. Thanks for weighing in. Blink stated that OYE was in the pic with Morgan. We all figured OYE was older, based on several factors.
OYE is in the pic with Morgan and her other friends, all of the people in that pic are friends of Morgan,they may be closer to other friends outside of that pic, but they are friends. I have seen more pics of Morgan with each of these friends. I agree, she only knows what she has been told about that night. However, she bases what she knows on her personal experience being with Morgan.
Guys, just for the record, OYE is not important. I don’t know if she was giving clues or not. I just want to make sure that MMCG and the other party spots are searched. PERIOD
Just saw another MP from Salem, Va– 13yof, Tiffany A Traxal, 5:15pm,abducted on foot. LE IDed suspect.
http://www.wdbj7.com/Global/story.asp?S=11822804&Call=Email&Format=HTML
When I went back to a different thread I came across this post. I regret that I did not see it earlier and ask a few questions. I believe we could have learned a great deal. I hope jmcville told LE, or his friend did.
Comment by jmcville — November 25, 2009 @ 5:04 am
I do believe she was at the concert. A good friend of mine sat in the chair directly behind a girl with the exact same description as Morgan and also wearing a Pantera shirt. My friend noticed she was visibly “out of it” and said she left right after the opening act and never came back (he never though too much of it until the next day…).
My thoughts:
Morgan and some “friends” carpooled from Blacksburg to Harrisonburg to Charlottesville for the concert. It takes 2.5 hours to get from Blacksburg to Harrisonburg. I read in a news release that Morgan left Saturday at noon. She called her father sometime after 2pm on Saturday saying she had safely arrived in Harrisonburg. Now, it only takes an hour to get from Harrisonburg to Charlottesville. So… to kill the time before getting into Charlottesville for the concert, the friends got drunk/partook in recreational drug use. Morgan is a thin girl – probably a lightweight – and probably was quite out of it by the time she arrived in Charlottesville.
She left to use the bathroom between acts (which makes sense, she wouldn’t want to miss something.) If her friends were in the same altered state, they wouldn’t have cared as much to go to the restroom with her. On facebook, she is smoking a cigarette in a few pictures. She probably stepped outside to take a smoke break and then in her altered state didn’t think that she wouldn’t be able to get back inside. Then she called her friends who were also extremely high/out of it and when she told them she’d find a ride, they either didn’t care or were too out of it to care. The concert didn’t end til what, 1am? So… whoever was driving had enough time for their high to wear off. The concert was a “special event” and sometimes people will decide to experiment with things they wouldn’t before concerts… possibly E/acid?? The “friends” are not releasing this information because it would incriminate them too – esp since one’s father is in law enforcement.
After that…. Morgan was too drunk/high to think logically at all. Think about when you’ve been extremely drunk/high (or were, in your college days). You feel that you’re invincible, inhibitions lowered, more adventuresome, etc.
My prediction is that she got chatty with someone who she ran into late night, who offered to hang out with her/do other things with her and then offered her other drugs/alchohol. With the combination she OD’ed? What would be their motivation to keep her alive and not let her leave? A sex slave? I do think the UVA BBall players have a connection to this….. however I’m not convinced they were the last ones she was with before the night ended. Athletes get drug tested and could possibly be on scholarships so I doubt they would jeopardize that.
Sorry to write a book… but I think about this case daily. Other thoughts: I am not reading too deeply into the Pantera shirt. I think she wore it because it was black and it’s a metal band and she thought it would go with the “scene”. In regards to the phone battery, I think she drunkenly stumbled about and dropped her purse and the battery fell out when the phone dropped and fell into a gutter or got ran over by a car or squashed by a person. She didn’t realize it in her altered state and moved on. She also could have dropped her purse later and not realized it. I had a few friends in college who were routinely known for breaking/loosing phones, purses/ids/debit cards (which we made jokes of). Also, I don’t think the exact order of entry into JPJ really matters. I’ve gone to several basketball games and concerts there and sometimes there are so many people pushing through that you temporarily get separated upon entry, then stand around for a few seconds while inside to regroup with everyone. Also, even if she entered completely separate, she would have been forced to sit in her seat. They are fairly strict with seating.
Obviously the parents are withholding information, as well as the friends. I do still think they were her friends though. I don’t think they wished ill on her. I think they were just college kids, being stupid (recently graduated, as we were many times) and drinking too much/experimenting with drugs. When Morgan got stuck outside they might have thought, wow, that sucks, but we’ll laugh about it tomorrow. Reputations put aside…. I agree that more information needs to be released or everyone else will continue to be frustrated and eventually give up.
I do hope she’s okay.. but at this point, how could she be? Prayers
Ugh. TIffany was abducted one block from Roanoke College. Here’s a map View Larger Map
Good Afternoon Blink,
Need some major cheese here!!
Enquirer dropped a BOMBSHELL last night
concerning an Ex-Con with Anger Issues. HUH???
How did I miss that? Can you please elaborate, as we have not heard back from Enquirer. Thx
Skyler….I am so sorry to hear about your job loss, and I will be praying that just the right thing comes along for you!
Comment by Enquirer — January 13, 2010 @ 8:52 pm
I havent seen this mentioned before, but thought i’d shine a light on it: The individual that OYE indicates as a party goer who may have been in direct contact with M is an ex-con with a hang of a lot of issues, especially temper related issues
Hey all! Thanks for clearing up the Tarheel thing. I too believe that she was speaking to the “poster” tarheel and not the tarheel that is friends with Morgan.
Gil Harrington’s thoughts from January 4thOn January – 14 – 20102 COMMENTS
January 4, 2010
I traveled to New York City with Alex to shore him up a bit. This is a tough, cold, hard city to survive in when you have your full vigor; but when you are shattered with grief it is absolutely overwhelming. I am determined that Alex does more than just survive – that he does more than eke out an existence in this city. I will do whatever is necessary to ensure his success. I won’t allow the person who abducted Morgan to derail Alex’s future. I won’t allow him to derail our marriage. I won’t tolerate the destruction of Morgan’s friends. No collateral damage, Basta! I will not accept any more injury from Morgan’s abductor.
We will find Morgan and build our family anew. I have to remain strong because she will need us when that reunion happens. We must stay grounded in our relationships and love/ Love is greater than fear and will prevail – even in this place.
hello again, i posted here awhile back regarding road crew and rock and roll underbelly / stranger abduction. That theory was hijacked over to another site where it died. I haven’t ruled that out, but..
regarding comments left by OYE: I think this girl has offered valuable insights into who is MH and what she had been going through leading up to the events of 10/17. I DO NOT think she knows anymore than the rest of us concerning MH’s demise. I also sense that any misty mtn hop / campround connection is a dead end. Just my sense of it.
Seems apparent to me that MH was rebellious and her parents were mostly kept in the dark as to the extent of that. They had signs of it and certainly took steps to control it. Her change of HS during Sr. year is evidence of that, parent’s thinking that to remove from friends would “cure” the drug user. Further comments from the family concerning the 6 months prior to 10/17 leads me to believe that her freshman year at VT was pretty rough – not up to parents’ expectations, poor grades and such, maybe with a turnaround at the end of spring.
Last 6 months were good according to parents, based on what they observed. Looks like there was plenty they did not know, the extent of the partying and such, hence open YOUR eyes. The extent of the partying is evident in all of the photos that have been brought to light, MH was right in the middle of that. Bounced checkbook was likely evidence to the H family that it was all crashing down again, despite their efforts to control it. Homework in the car on the way to the show? Not likely, appeasement for the parents paying her bills much more likely.
Some of us (present company included) have a very hard time in these first years of “freedom”. We want our independence yet are still on the hook to those footing the bill. Some of us parents (present company, again)have a hard time granting that independence, especially when performance is not up to standards. Some of us (present company yet again) cannot control our actions in regard to drugs and alcohol and have found ourselves in very compromising situations that any “rational” or “normal” person would not understand. Addiction recognizes no class status or religion. Addiction leads to strained friendships and relations with some very unsavory people. Poor decision making is the norm.
OYE offered that MH was having a hard time on many fronts. MH is not unlike many, she just disappeared and became “news”. I do not blame her for her disppearance, not directly at least. Associations within the drug culture likely played a role in her demise. I pray for Morgan and her family.
I follow this site and offer my comments because i am a dad of two. These years and issues are still out there for mine. Mine are genetically predisposed, if you will. I walk the line between freedom and control daily.
Instead of dissecting posts by posters here..OYE, etc, I think the focus needs to be on facts “as we know them.” OYE obviously knows
Morgan and IMO has shed much light on the situation. I personally give much credence to her assessment of Morgan and Morgan’s “world.”
IMO this case goes deeper than Morgan being missing, perhaps a connection to something outside the close perimeters of this case? I do think the situation is getting “warmer” with LE gaining momentum.
There are some great minds on this forum….great insight and intuition as well.
Thanks Blink for all you do.
It seems to me that, if Morgan was not the victim of an accident (OD, alcohol poisoning, hypothermia, hit and run), or she left voluntarily, then there are only three other possibilities:
#1. She was abducted by a complete stranger, someone with violent tendencies who may have done this before, and may do it in the future. In that case LE has an obligation to make the public aware that they may have a predator of young women in the area.
#2. She met het fate with someone she knew. In that case, I really believe that the friends have to know something, and since there’s no shortage of LE who are very close/related to the friends, you have to think that in Morgan’s case, in particular, they’d be way ahead of the game. The comments made by the Harringtons lead me to believe differently.
#3. As someone above said, does this go deeper than just local involvement? Is DEA/FBI involved in any way? This would fit the third possibility, that Morgan’s fate came by way of her stumbling into something way out of her league, and LE is keeping a lid on everything, REAL tight! Shannon said his cousin was a DEA agent at UVa. I know he said alot, but maybe he let this slip. You’d think a Metallica concert wouldn’t be a bad place to start looking for dealers, especially in a college town.
I noticed this from poster “mynamehere” #123, Jan 7, 2010, 11:31AM:
“I found it interesting that the Secret Service is involved in an investigation in VA”
Also from same post:
Missing persons from Sept ’09-Dec ’09 in various states:
Georgia 9
North Carolina 1
Tennessee 1
Texas 11
California 22
Virginia 26
Now I didn’t check these stats out yet, but that is one HELL of alot of people missing from VA and GA, doesn’t anyone find this shocking?