Morgan Harrington Case: An Appeal To * You Know Who*
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Charlottesville, VA–The disappearance of Morgan Harrington, missing since October 17, 2009 is exhibiting the potential to reach a temperature that is currenlty encompassing the Northeast: VERY COLD.
Through the thousands of posts at blinkoncrime.com and numerous articles covering Morgan, it is clear that frustration in the lack of lead generation and ambiguous statements from the Virginia State Police are causing some to lack conviction Morgan will be found.
In a recent press conference by VSP, LE provided NO NEW information or progress regarding Morgan’s case. In a shift of posture by the Harrington family, Dr. Harrington has begun participating in online chat and sponsored an additional facebook site to help the efforts to find his daughter.
In fact, for the first time in 2.5 months, we know what kind of camera Morgan had with her the evening of the Metallica concert from his research.
In contrast, we have viewed footage and photos of her dear friends that have clearly moved on without the knowledge of their friends plight.
Girls will be girls you say? Before one person comes on here to tell me I am being too critical of these young women you should know that due to a fortunate Facebook update, describing these girls as Morgan’s friends is entirely generous.
Furthermore, if you happen to be one of the parents that has provided booze for underage minors captured on digital for all to see you may wish to take a peek at what is on your daughter’s social sites.
Have you thought about what it would be like to be Gil or Dan while your linin’ it up and throwin’ em back WITH your kids?
Fortunately, this is not the focus today. I do not feel Morgan’s friends did anything to directly cause her fate. They are more “ME” than frienemy, that is evident.
Gil Harrington, posting on the families site findmorgan.com, wrote one of the most eloquent and courageous posts from the Mother of a missing child I have ever read.
The snowfall is beautiful but still disturbing – melancholy. Wonder if Morgan is cold – is snow falling on her face – or is her face covered by leaves in a shallow grave being hidden by the snow. I glance out the window and see the crimson blaze of a cardinal at the bird feeder – my heart leaps for a second at the beauty – then I think its feathers look like blood in the snow. Is that what Morgan’s blood looks like in the snow? See how the pitfalls are everywhere – even at the bird feeder.
In a somewhat angst-ridden moment, a poster on blinkoncrime.com suggested any and all witnesses in this case should be subject to repeated Barry Manilow songs until they confess.
It jogged a memory for me that reminded me that I am proudly my Father’s daughter. Morgan is Dan Harrington’s daughter.
Maybe someone, somewhere, has just not approached that perspective.
In response to the MAN-i-low dis-
Blink prefacing below to say: yes, off topic, and yes, I am on cold meds, but y’all went after the “MAN ilow”. < ?xml:namespace prefix ="" o />
Barry holds a special place in the heart of my family. When I was a kid I used to play dress up with my Mom’s clothes. If a pair of her way-too-big-for-me heels was “done”, she would let me cut off the ankle straps and dance around in them as slides.
One afternoon, when I should have been doing my homework, I was blaring Copa Cabana in my Parents study dressed like a thriftshop showgirl and when ” Who could ask for more…at the Copa” part came on, I kicked like a 12 year old Rockette and launched my “slide/RPG” into the ceiling.
There it stayed.
I threw everything I could find at that shoe to dislodge it. Nothing.
Except for the new marks on the scalloped ceiling.
Later, when unbeknownst to me, my Dad was reading his 12 daily newspapers in the study, I thought I might try another idea.
I jumped as hard as I could at the spot upstairs above where the slutslipper was lodged.
It worked on the 3rd try.
How do I know?
I heard a “S o n o f a …..” , then something that sounded like a combination of my first and middle names with a swear word interjected that was rising in tone and volume, and now coming my way.
As I hit the hallway to head to the other direction or squeeze myself unnaturally under something, there He was
My Dad, evidence in hand, smiling wryly form ear to ear.
“Yours I presume, young lady,” his forearm outstretched gently with the nail to my coffin in his palm.
I responded .. “What makes you say that?
Could be ketchup or mustards..”
(Lame editors note: do NOT ask, my sisters and I had bathing suits that matched when we were little that were red, yellow and white, respectively, it stuck to this day, I was Mayo)
He replied .. ” Because I know, this weekend, when you fish out your overalls and help me fix the ceiling before your Mother notices, you would rather do that than whatever she comes up with so we can be all done here. The End. ( Blink dad making the wipe hands clean gesture)
She has been talking about repainting the Family room for months, I would LOVE some help with that…”
“Yes Sir.” I muttered with a matching grimace.
“Can I have it back?” I asked.
“I would say your dancing days are on hold, dear daughter, for the foreseeable future, as are your TV privliges.”
“Anything else? ” I asked.
“Why yes, there is. If you choose to dance through the house with wreckless abandon, next time, do it when your homework is finished and in your tennis shoes. And can you please try to be more like your Mother and less like me?”
“Doubtfull Deets, doubtful.”
With that carefully measured tween rhetort I skipped down the hall, crisis averted and I am still Dad’s fave.
I can live with the painting. Wonder if I can pick the color??
I chose to share this very personal exchange with my Daddy because it dawned on me that maybe someone that reads this does not understand what Morgan’ s Father (and family, but this reference is strictly male) needs from them.
He was her protector. He is her ceiling fixer.
You have to give him back what you took so he can fix it for her and their family.
He does not care who you are or what you may have done.
You can do this for them now. Have faith that anything can be fixed. Anything.
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can someone clarify something for me? in the below report – it says the purse theft occured between 5:38 and 5:55pm. it says it was reported at 9:30pm.
How do they know when the theft occurred? And if they know, wouldnt that mean that Morgan would have to have known at that time too – so why was it not reported at that time too?
This could open up a can of worms, so I am just wondering if maybe I am missing something on the way this report is filed – if the “reported” time means time the victim reported the incident or time the officer reported the incident in to headquarters.
LARCENY FROM VEHICLE � The Park 200901369/22
Reported purse and contents stolen from vehicle
RPT: 2130 10-17-09
OCC: 1738 10-17-09 to 1755 10-17-09
CASE STATUS: Suspended
http://www.virginia.edu/uvapolice/reports.html
Occurred between 1738 (5:38pm) and 1755 (5:55pm)
which coincides with the alleged 6pm arrival time of the group at JPJ
Reported at 2130 (9:30pm)
It seems to me by Gil’s last two posts that she now believes Morgan is still alive as opposed to the tone of prior posts. Anyone else notice that or is it just wishfull thinking on my part?
Comment by mary — January 14, 2010 @ 9:31 pm
“Blink, haven’t you subtly tried to throw out there that Morgan may have called in the purse report to try to get into her car? And that in trying to do that, she may have met the “officer” in the area of the RV lot?”
mary and Blink,
I believe LE would have come to where the caller was.
IF Morgan made a call outside JPJ regarding her purse being stolen from The Park, LE would have met her from where she was calling from, and not requesting she go back to The Park – - or the scene of the crime – - safety issues, not procedure, etc.
Unless there is a tape recording of Morgan’s voice calling in, I don’t believe her purse was stolen. If, again IF, she was seen “dropping” her purse, perhaps she was scared of or anxious about something, walking quickly, fumbling, stumbling. Your legs and body can feel and be very unsteady if your are in such a state.
Respectfully WPG, I disagree. If someone is reporting a crime, one would need to go to the scene, most specifically, when alleging it happened hours earlier and the first thing one would do is check the car and it’s condition, etc.
That said, you could be right it was not her. I am not comfortable at all with the reflection and symmetry with evidence and timeline. I feel like Occam is screaming in my ear.
B
Thanks Blink for clearing that up, I did it the way you told me and it worked. Strange how that is a glitch now though…A lot of DIP arrests that night at JPJA.
And I still don’t get how come there is no video of Morgan on the security cameras. What if they did put her in the JPJA drunk tank, then threw her out. I guess they wouldn’t admit it, but I still think there is something hinky about her not being on one single security video!
Have they ever admitted the camera’s were off? Or just no Morgan?
Geez. Can’t get past the purse either. I believe it was Jen that stated the rules of JPJ arena not allowing large bags inside. So, Morgan leaves her purse in the car. I can see this, cash, cell phone, camera in hand. Travel light. Would she have carried this stuff on her? I absolutely hate to carry a bag into a concert and have to keep up with it. I would stick everything in pockets if at all possible… assuming she could do this with her skirt.
KYcat, When my daughter and her friend’s don’t have pockets they carry their cell phones in their bras. If Morgan did this, it would make sense she would take off her beautiful,somewhat cumbersome necklace so she could easily access the phone, without snagging the necklace or getting tangled…..
B- re: whiplash
To put forth a few quotes I keep handy (that may or may not be relevant, in regard to the first one):
“Knowledge is power. Information is power. …”
But, (citizens, listen up!) -
“The more clear you are on what you want, the more power you will have.”
Let’s get that report.
**comment by localcvillegirl
“Mouse…I am so surprised Morgan wasn’t arrested at the arena if she was as messed up as has partially been reported. They are set up for these arrests at UVa games…it’s almost entertainment for us old folks. I don’t know about concerts, but I’d think they wouldn’t want someone who’s a walking liability to even enter the arena. What’s the real story here?”
cvillegirl,
I don’t know. Like Dan H. said yesterday, things are not making sense.
**comment by Momof3
“Also, why ask if any one let Morgan use their phone?
And I seem to remember Mr. Harrington was asked in an interview if there was any purchases made after she left the arena on her debit card and he slowly replied, I can not say at this time?”
Mom,
Perhaps to corroborate the 9:30 purse theft call in?
“Respectfully WPG, I disagree. If someone is reporting a crime, one would need to go to the scene, most specifically, when alleging it happened hours earlier and the first thing one would do is check the car and it’s condition, etc.”
I agree, IF the car was at the scene.
It was definitely there. I know this without question. I say that like I did not think it was not at some point.
I also know it because it was the subject of misinformation within multiple PD’s, which screams… “You weren’t supposed to say anything..” to me
B
Are we getting closer to admitting that an officer of some sort was responsible for Morgan’s disappearance? I know we’ve all hinted and wondered, but this could be our stone wall. Guess LE would really have to have their ducks in a row for this one. And it would be one big reason why the community has not been warned about a psycho on the loose…this guy is being watched.
Hate to think.
momof 3 hit on this weeks ago, what if the scenario is bg AND happenstance?
B
Blink, you mean I finally get some Blink Biscuits? Sadly, I think I lost my appetite……
Lol, you get them daily. I apolly for being remiss.
B
Momof3…. I just looked at the incident reports on UVA website and I don’t know what, if anything, has been removed but there were several arrests for DIP?!? Drunk in Public. Is that what DIP is? I am assuming, maybe I shouldn’t, where I come from it’s called PI, public intoxication. Dunno but if Morgan was as bad off as what is being reported why wasn’t she arrested? It was said (rumor maybe) that she was asked to leave. What security would ask a very impaired young woman to leave? As I understand it there was *first aid/safety stations* set up for this type of situation. IF, and a big if, they did ask her to leave would this leave them open to liability?
Also, interesting theory about granny’s sighting. I am beginning to go down that road now. LOL, been down all the roads regarding this case. But, seriously, has LE specifically debunked granny’s sighting or is that just more internet rumors. Granny was adamant about what she saw. IMO your theory there is plausible.
Again, Momof3, I am all over the board here but that last post of yours regarding Mr. Harrington’s answer to the question “if there was any purchases made after she left the arena on her debit card” is very telling. That says volumes. Certainly the Harringtons and LE know more.
Blink, need your insight. Throw us a bone. Do you specifically know of a POI that LE has in their sights? No names, just a nod from you will do!
My insight does not allow me to answer that directly
B
B – “Investigative Reasons”/Goblet Time
But… Hmmm. Why would LE claim that “based on independent witness accounts,” they are “confident” MH was hitch-hiking, if these accounts were either A) nonexistent (i.e., they’re bluffing), or B) strategically and skillfully fabricated from multiple sources – successfully (i.e, several divisions of LE involved in the investigation have been categorically duped through some sort of undetectable conspiracy).
*If* I’m smelling what you’re steppin’ in, this case would be a lot less baffling… and a lot more shocking.
Blink, I just had a lightbulb moment. What if LE stating that this is related to someone in the Charlottesville area is because they know that HH wasn’t involved?
Could this be why The Harrington’s are now stating they believe Morgan is alive and being held?
LE has never definitively confirmed any scenario, its always MAY have this and MAY have that……
“It was definitely there. I know this without question. I say that like I did not think it was not at some point.
I also know it because it was the subject of misinformation within multiple PD’s, which screams… “You weren’t supposed to say anything..” to me
B”
Blink, sorry I was not clear, my fault.
I meant if the car was “still” at the scene, at The Park, when the call was made at 9:30.
Just going on my own experience here, but if someone called in from their home, would LE tell them, especially a female, to go back to the scene 9:30 at night?
Now…
uh-oh…
The car WAS at The Park? And that narrows it down to Morgan and how many others with that knowledge?
???
My belief is that it was. That Dan dropped the girls off, parked the car, and met them afterwards. The timeline of the stolen purse matches that window, imo.
B
Excellent. Cell phone in bra! I am definitely going with that scenario. I just don’t think Morgan even took her bag into that arena. Yes, I am going back to the purse again. If her purse was stolen than all the supposedly sightings of her dropping her purse would not have been her. But, I am hitting a roadblock, because of her phone minus battery was found with purse. Ok, thoughts on this.
“Purse is not important to the investigation.”
Why: Because we know it was stolen before she went missing.
My insight does not allow me to answer that directly
B
Blink. You are killing me here!
cvillegirl and Mom,
I agree there is a possibility.
Blink,
When LE says “the friends”, do you think they mean “the girlfriends”?
J2K, You are still a funny guy!
#381 Comment by OPENYOUREYES — January 9, 2010 @ 1:33 pm
KYcat,
I am not sure if LE has debunked Granny or not. Early on they seemed to have debunked the next morning Gas Station sighting, later to follow up on it, aaarg I’m not sure…
By the way thanks for trying to get Blink to throw us a bone, it was worth a try, right?
Localcvillegirl, Hi, I don’t know what we are closer to, could be that we are all just closer to losing our grip…LOL
“My belief is that it was. That Dan dropped the girls off, parked the car, and met them afterwards. The timeline of the stolen purse matches that window, imo.
B”
Would you believe I typed up a whole scenario to support your thinking on this a while back, but I then thought I misread your comment (on other thread), and did not submit.
Yes, lol, I would. It’s this case. It feels like when the picture comes into focus, someone twists the kaleidoscope.
B
wpgmouse, If I’m understanding what your hinting at, I am thinking along those lines also…friends means just that Morgan’s friends, not friends of friends ……
Blink, you are spot-on with this comment: “The first accounts, the freshest, are by far the most accurate. What was stated, what was witheld? What were the Harrington’s saying vs. what they are saying now?”
And then you offer “Missing is camera, and cell battery. What does that tell me? I have the power to erase this evening. Watch me.”
This comment is very intriguing to me, but I’m having a hard time believing that a perpetrator would remove a phone battery rather than dispose of the entire phone.
For one, he would risk leaving his fingerprints on the phone. And it would imply that he had enough intelligence to orchestrate, not only the abduction and the concealment of her body, but then the careful placement of just enough of Morgan’s belongings to steer us in the wrong direction without implicating himself.
I’m not believing that this is the level of perpetrator we’re dealing with. My cheese is further down with the garden variety style of criminals.
Perhaps, certainly-
Or maybe the battery was removed in a manner to not alarm Morgan that it had been?
I am so nervous as I type this, all of your sleuthing skills are so far above mine but I just was thinking of something Cindy Anthony said(that it was taking LE to long to get there, or something like that) and I know that sometimes when a low priority crime is called into LE…stolen purse etc. that they say they will get someone there as soon as they can. What if Morgan reported her purse stolen at 5:30 but LE did not respond until 9:30, called her to come out to make her report. That could be a reason for her being outside.
Blink the minds on your site just amaze me.
Don’t be nervous. Your amoung friends. The timing of the report is fixed, in that, within the incident report it will show the call vs. the response details and as to the suspension.
B
B – re: roageo (#1029) said,
“First off, I do not believe LE would deliberately put out false sightings to progress an investigation. Although I am aware first-hand it has happened in other cases, it is not this overt. …”
Okay. So that rules out my proposed option “A” …
But not option “B,” which was: (HH accounts were) strategically and skillfully fabricated from multiple sources – successfully.
B, you posit:
“I believe they (LE) were told this information by witnesses they had no reason to question the credibility of, and/or they were told this by witnesses explaining why she was in their vehicle.”
Going with this line of thinking, B, *who* would have unquestionable credibility when LE’s pool of witnesses – in regard to those specific sightings – stemmed from [speculation] about a dozen (paired or alone) random individuals passing through that dot on the map at that time?
If, as you submit, LE may have been told by several individuals that MH got into *their* car, and they “just-dropped-her-off-I-swear-!” – and LE presented that they believed them – why wouldn’t the timeline end where she was *last seen*?
I suppose that brings us to the next portion of your comment:
(B) “In that instance, it would make it believable to some. Putting it out would perhaps be a way they (LE) saw as possibly generating more leads.”
So I guess that leads to the question: *who* are “some”?
Yoshi, Thank you so much for the laugh! Brilliant analogy!
“While it seems that we had come full circle (somewhere up thread, I believe), we are now, for lack of a better term, in the parking lot doing doughnuts.”
#1051 — An officer or someone in security at JPJA?
I’m not sure who posted about possible gang initiation, but, when I read the description of the two males in Harrisonburg who raped the female runner, my first thoughts were, gang related.
Does anyone have factual info on gang problems in the Harrisonburg, Charlottesville, and surrounding areas?
Where was her injury – depending on where it was and what part of the brain if injured would cause different effects.
If above the ear (taken from http://www.braininjury.com/symptoms.html)
Temporal Lobes: side of head above ears
•Difficulty in recognizing faces (Prosopagnosia).
•Difficulty in understanding spoken words (Wernicke’s Aphasia).
•Disturbance with selective attention to what we see and hear.
•Difficulty with identification of, and verbalization about objects.
•Short term memory loss.
•Interference with long term memory.
•Increased and decreased interest in sexual behavior.
•Inability to catagorize objects (Categorization).
•Right lobe damage can cause persistent talking.
•Increased aggressive behavior.
I have been re-evaluating everything. I am beginning to think that Morgan may have suffered a brain injury. Read this article,
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/20/brain-injury-victims-can-_n_177352.html
which states that a person may seem fine for an hour or so after suffering a brain injury and then start to display delayed, more severe symptoms. Now, mix in a little alcohol with a head injury. I think something went drastically wrong, and whomever she was tried to get her home (Boyd Tavern) but couldn’t before things turned from bad to worse and panicked OR that she is in fact alive and suffering a head injury which did infact cause memory loss and the person who she met was someone she knew who possibly had a love interest in her which was only returned by friendship from Morgan who is using her memory loss to his advanatage (similar to the movie Overboard). I am, unfortunately, leaning toward the first scenario and quite possible came up with the second from a sincere hope she is still alive some where.
Additionally…
1) I believe someone posted that the Granny sighting has been discounted as being legit – that being the case, I no longer feel that it was a concert goer.
2) Dee said she went home straight after the concert so that leads one to believe the limo driver sighting to be true, placing her with four men, laughing and talking, which leads one to believe that she may have been drunk but was not incoherent. Also the laughing would indicate that she was not upset.
3) I also believe the Boyd Tavern sighting is connected.
4) She used her phone and was seen with her purse so she had both in the parking lot.
5) The weight loss and pale look could just be something as simple as a college student who volenteers, trying to study, maybe partying a bit, low on money, not eating right, maybe taking a pick me upper of some kind to keep her going – OYE did say that she was struggling with something but also went onto say that she didn’t say drugs (I believe – please correct me if I am wrong). Not to rule out the possibility of drug abuse, but just saying not to assume it.
Blink–
There were sightings of her dropping her purse. How do you account for that if her purse had been previously stolen?
Maybe she forgot she dropped it. Maybe she dropped it and saw it as a way to get into the car, which was HERS.
Maybe the sightings were Dee S, although she did NOT have a bag inside. In fact, it was striking how many people did not.
B
s2dZ – re: (#1049/philly’s Boy poe-po/Baltmo’? Ha. Mo’ like “neveh mo’”), busted out dis:
“yo yo, step off, you philly foo,
Poe ain’t yo ho no mo!
gonna make me call da po po
den you’ll know know
ya gots ta go go
Word.”
S 2 the z?
Mo’ like – s 2 the ‘pleaz
da ilapdelph made dat crazyazz man -
not sum Baltmo’ bar stoo’ b4 he was 86d,,rudy poo
das rite,,no Bird pome like on da Simpsons
ifit aint fo Phillizzle, bizzle
Word to ya Edga.
Ok, you guys keep this up, I am gonna start posting SGM’s posts for real.
I think I have to admit I have comprehension issues when I read that. It is definitely me, lol.
B
So, Morgan’s phone powers down at 9:30pm, same time as the stolen purse report?????
‘Xactly.
B
B – re: “I also know it because it was the subject of misinformation within multiple PD’s, which screams… ‘You weren’t supposed to say anything..’ to me”~B
Whoa whoa whoa…
Are you suggesting that UVAPD did not release the police report on the stolen purse/car break-in (at the Park Lot 10/17/09@9:30) upon VFIA request (if filed/processed), because the information is considered part of an ongoing investigation?
No. Sorry if that was overly ambiguous. I am suggesting the issue, say it like I do.. Isss- U, regarding whether or not the car was in fact there, was not a shared fact within UVAPD. I have knowledge that for whatever reason, LE in that PD were told the car remained in H-Burg. This was weeks ago, no room to say they might not have gotten the memo.
Perhaps that led to the case transfer fully to VSP?
B
“Purse is not important to the investigation.”
Why: Because we know it was stolen before she went missing.
Blink, since her cell phone minus battery was found with purse does that mean that she did not take her cell phone into the arena? She actually borrows someones cell to call friends in arena and call LE about her stolen purse? This would make sense since LE was asking for someone to come forward if Morgan had borrowed their cell phone?
Regarding witnesses statements that she was HH on bridge. Last contact with Morgan was with bb players. BB players state they saw her HH on bridge. Do you think Morgan got in a car with one of the bb players? Who needs to turn the necklace in? Girlfriend of BB player. Just thinking out loud. Not trying to accuse anyone of anything.
acho
Appears he could only play nice for a little while, and I want to make that clear for the many who are giving him huge benefit of the doubt–you all are kinder than I, BTW.)
Just because someone says they moved their cheese, doesn’t mean it was moved. I think we are all learning from LE. lol
the map accompanying the roanoke times article,shows her purse being found in the rv lot,now this is either taken for granted by the article that rv lot or cage lot is a point of a contention,or as in the artcle is updating & (slightly) clarifying details,is the map and rv lot pinpoint ,the clarify that?(that seems a legit question for a press person to ask)http://www.roanoke.com/datasphere/wb/xp-224154 if her car was parked in the rv lot, i could see her going there. otherwise if she was texting someone for a ride ,why go into a dusty lot (in heels) in the rain ,off the path to main rode.OH BIG OH it just dawned on me why she would take the battery out ,IF it got wet in the rain absolutely you take the battery out to dry.but at any rate big ugh hmmm… on this map her purse was at the last place someone is known to have spoken to her.
blink! in #1064 do you mean we know she went missing before the purse was reported stolen and before the reportee believed it to be stolen?
i believe we have found ourselves back at square one with the key players planted firmly in the mix?
No, although 2 of my team have left their cheese there permanently.
B
http://www2.wsls.com/sls/news/local/article/breaking_news_roanoke_police_searching_for_missing_child/74825/
Another missing child in Roanoke.
http://www2.wsls.com/sls/news/local/article/salem_police_search_for_missing_man_and_13-year-old_girl/74678/
And a child who has run away, with an older guy.
What is our world coming to?
#1077 i meant “to” clarfy that
How “unlucky” are we willing to believe Morgan’s evening to have been? If we accept that the stolen purse reported at 9:30 pm was Morgan’s, then we are also willing to believe that Morgan was unusually unlucky that evening.
Are we willing to believe that one person could have this much go wrong in one evening? :
- she fell in the arena and cut her chin
- she was not allowed to re-enter and see the concert she had paid for
- she was stuck outside and it was cold (and rainy)
- then she had her purse stolen and while she’s calling to make the report she gets abducted????
- then she disappears off the face of the earth
With all respect to the theory, my gut tells me adding a stolen purse to the sequence of events puts the entire evening over the top of believability. (But maybe that’s just par for the course.)
The stolen purse may just be “that”.
That said, we are being asked to believe alot more than you pointed out. I think you make a good point.
B
If DD dropped off girls then went to park the only person that would know the exact spot the car was in is the DD.
If Morgan was not allowed into the arena with her bag DD would have driven off with it.
If DD returned to watch the entire concert when was purse known to be stolen? When Morgan left arena?
If stolen from car could someone have told Morgan hey your purse was stolen from car in The Park – Morgan ran out to see,not allowed back in-
or purse wasn’t really stolen friends played joke- didn’t tell Morgan- Morgan already reported purse stolen-
Thoughts anyone?
Lisa, welcome to the thread. We need all the help we can get. I am stuck on the details of the purse also…. Hope you’ll post more.
Blink,
Huh?
So you are saying that Morgan “made up” the stolen purse story, called it in at 9:30, just to what – - get LE assistance to get into her car or to get the keys from her friends inside JPJ?
Why wouldn’t she just approach any of the LE on site?
No, I am offering a few possibilities.
However, your assuming she did not approach them onsite. We don’t know that without the incident report, imo.
B
Can anyone refresh my mind to the time of Granny’s sighting?
If Morgan didn’t have her bag, and she was carrying her cell in her bra, IMO if she was in an altercation with someone grabbing her arm, ect.It would be quite easy for the phone to slip down or up and out making the cell phone drop thereby dislodging the battery. I think even walking or moving around jumping up and down as girls tend to do to keep warm would dislodge the phone.
where was the rest of the team why only these two or was it three ?four? maybe she walked up on the purse stealer ,she asked for a ride they said no, she left the lot,they had talked her out of her purse ,went thru it ditched it, left the lot and picked her up on their way out.maybe she realized,she didnt have her purse and went back,to look for it(them).maybe they(who ever they are)tried other cars and she saw them.
If Morgan made the call at 9:30 to report the purse, how could she hae known that it disappeared in a 17 minute window of time 4 hours prior to calling?
If she knew at the time it had been stolen, why wait 4 hours to call? If not, then maybe she knew the time frame because they had left the car unlocked and unattended for a short period of time before going into the concert.
If so,it could be that she also left the phone in the purse, and that is why she left the building. If she went to retrieve it she may have realized her purse was missing, and that it could only have happened during that brief period of time.
If the reason they left the car unattended was to smoke a joint or talk to other concert goers a few steps away it would be easy to pinpoint the time.That would also explain why the police are asking if she borrowed a phone, because the call to friends would have to have been made on a borrowed phone if her phone had been accidently left in the purse in the car and was now missing.
Comment by Judi — January 14, 2010 @ 11:00 pm
It seems to me by Gil’s last two posts that she now believes Morgan is still alive as opposed to the tone of prior posts. Anyone else notice that or is it just wishfull thinking on my part?
I believe Gil is going through the stages of grief. But a twist in that is she doesn’t really know if Morgan is dead or alive and that haunts her. So very, very sad for both her and Dr. Harrington.
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I have always felt the purse played a role in Morgan missing. I have felt from the beginning that Morgan never made it to the arena. I asked myself “then how did the purse arrive?”. One idea I thought of was if Morgans purse and jacket were in the car ready to go to the concert but she never arrived at the time they were to leave and they left without her with her purse and jacket..still in the car.
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I honestly do believe there are friends and friends of friends that would like to talk a bit about Morgan and that night. They are trying to come out and we should welcome them. They are soooo afraid of painting Morgan in a bad light. But lets face it bloggers have had Morgan a druggie, drunk, selling herself and sold into prostitution. She has pretty much been everything to everybody.
What is strange is that truth is usually easier to swallow than fiction.
I have believed from the beginning and still believe that there is a huge involvement of LE related to various key players in Morgans disappearance and also higher ups in UVA that are keeping a lid on things to to speak.
Personally I think that silence will come back to bite LE in the butt. Too much time has passed and too much left unsaid.
the “stolen” purse theory makes no sense, unless the person that’stole’ morgan reported it stolen…. the phone (sans battery) was found near the purse … although morgan could have been w/o her purse i do not believe she would ever have been w/ her phone…. but, blink is up to something…
can anyone copy and paste her posts so we can pull this all together and come up with a sound thesis?
argh! throws goblet
maybe they were big strong armed girl athlethes using the lot,you can laugh,only saying that cuz that’s the only thing i came up regarding who the hitch hiking witness could be,and what their connection to being around arena ,not at concert.
awa:
“argh! throws goblet”
lol
excuse me that should have read w/o her purse…