Morgan Harrington Case: An Appeal To * You Know Who*
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Charlottesville, VA–The disappearance of Morgan Harrington, missing since October 17, 2009 is exhibiting the potential to reach a temperature that is currenlty encompassing the Northeast: VERY COLD.
Through the thousands of posts at blinkoncrime.com and numerous articles covering Morgan, it is clear that frustration in the lack of lead generation and ambiguous statements from the Virginia State Police are causing some to lack conviction Morgan will be found.
In a recent press conference by VSP, LE provided NO NEW information or progress regarding Morgan’s case. In a shift of posture by the Harrington family, Dr. Harrington has begun participating in online chat and sponsored an additional facebook site to help the efforts to find his daughter.
In fact, for the first time in 2.5 months, we know what kind of camera Morgan had with her the evening of the Metallica concert from his research.
In contrast, we have viewed footage and photos of her dear friends that have clearly moved on without the knowledge of their friends plight.
Girls will be girls you say? Before one person comes on here to tell me I am being too critical of these young women you should know that due to a fortunate Facebook update, describing these girls as Morgan’s friends is entirely generous.
Furthermore, if you happen to be one of the parents that has provided booze for underage minors captured on digital for all to see you may wish to take a peek at what is on your daughter’s social sites.
Have you thought about what it would be like to be Gil or Dan while your linin’ it up and throwin’ em back WITH your kids?
Fortunately, this is not the focus today. I do not feel Morgan’s friends did anything to directly cause her fate. They are more “ME” than frienemy, that is evident.
Gil Harrington, posting on the families site findmorgan.com, wrote one of the most eloquent and courageous posts from the Mother of a missing child I have ever read.
The snowfall is beautiful but still disturbing – melancholy. Wonder if Morgan is cold – is snow falling on her face – or is her face covered by leaves in a shallow grave being hidden by the snow. I glance out the window and see the crimson blaze of a cardinal at the bird feeder – my heart leaps for a second at the beauty – then I think its feathers look like blood in the snow. Is that what Morgan’s blood looks like in the snow? See how the pitfalls are everywhere – even at the bird feeder.
In a somewhat angst-ridden moment, a poster on blinkoncrime.com suggested any and all witnesses in this case should be subject to repeated Barry Manilow songs until they confess.
It jogged a memory for me that reminded me that I am proudly my Father’s daughter. Morgan is Dan Harrington’s daughter.
Maybe someone, somewhere, has just not approached that perspective.
In response to the MAN-i-low dis-
Blink prefacing below to say: yes, off topic, and yes, I am on cold meds, but y’all went after the “MAN ilow”. < ?xml:namespace prefix ="" o />
Barry holds a special place in the heart of my family. When I was a kid I used to play dress up with my Mom’s clothes. If a pair of her way-too-big-for-me heels was “done”, she would let me cut off the ankle straps and dance around in them as slides.
One afternoon, when I should have been doing my homework, I was blaring Copa Cabana in my Parents study dressed like a thriftshop showgirl and when ” Who could ask for more…at the Copa” part came on, I kicked like a 12 year old Rockette and launched my “slide/RPG” into the ceiling.
There it stayed.
I threw everything I could find at that shoe to dislodge it. Nothing.
Except for the new marks on the scalloped ceiling.
Later, when unbeknownst to me, my Dad was reading his 12 daily newspapers in the study, I thought I might try another idea.
I jumped as hard as I could at the spot upstairs above where the slutslipper was lodged.
It worked on the 3rd try.
How do I know?
I heard a “S o n o f a …..” , then something that sounded like a combination of my first and middle names with a swear word interjected that was rising in tone and volume, and now coming my way.
As I hit the hallway to head to the other direction or squeeze myself unnaturally under something, there He was
My Dad, evidence in hand, smiling wryly form ear to ear.
“Yours I presume, young lady,” his forearm outstretched gently with the nail to my coffin in his palm.
I responded .. “What makes you say that?
Could be ketchup or mustards..”
(Lame editors note: do NOT ask, my sisters and I had bathing suits that matched when we were little that were red, yellow and white, respectively, it stuck to this day, I was Mayo)
He replied .. ” Because I know, this weekend, when you fish out your overalls and help me fix the ceiling before your Mother notices, you would rather do that than whatever she comes up with so we can be all done here. The End. ( Blink dad making the wipe hands clean gesture)
She has been talking about repainting the Family room for months, I would LOVE some help with that…”
“Yes Sir.” I muttered with a matching grimace.
“Can I have it back?” I asked.
“I would say your dancing days are on hold, dear daughter, for the foreseeable future, as are your TV privliges.”
“Anything else? ” I asked.
“Why yes, there is. If you choose to dance through the house with wreckless abandon, next time, do it when your homework is finished and in your tennis shoes. And can you please try to be more like your Mother and less like me?”
“Doubtfull Deets, doubtful.”
With that carefully measured tween rhetort I skipped down the hall, crisis averted and I am still Dad’s fave.
I can live with the painting. Wonder if I can pick the color??
I chose to share this very personal exchange with my Daddy because it dawned on me that maybe someone that reads this does not understand what Morgan’ s Father (and family, but this reference is strictly male) needs from them.
He was her protector. He is her ceiling fixer.
You have to give him back what you took so he can fix it for her and their family.
He does not care who you are or what you may have done.
You can do this for them now. Have faith that anything can be fixed. Anything.
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awa , Here are a couple posts regarding the purse:
snipped from post by lapiz:
“She was wearing it that night,” Geller said. “She dropped her purse and her cell phone, so maybe she might have dropped her necklace also.”
http://www.collegiatetimes.com/stories/14690/new-details-released-in-harrington-investigation
Lapiz- first I have seen that quote. For me, I need to verify that with VSP.
Who drops a necklace? I sincerely hope, repeat, sincerely, that they are not basing the dropped her purse and cell on a witness sighting. If that is true, I have serious pause.
B
comment by Blink:
We have a disjoint in info.
Dee S statement that they called Dan S. to meet up with their crew, states that “They lost their friend (Morgan) and that they did not know what happened to her…” Also tells me at the time that conversation had taken place, at least Dan was not worried, and since he was holding her keys, one might think they expected to meet her outside, or the implication was they had again tried to get a hold of her. This is supported by Amanda Melvin’s early comments that they got outside and her car was in the lot. This has also bugged me. If they are so positive she had no access, why was that a surprise?
Couple that with Lt. Rader’s adamance that there were no plans for them to meet up later while her dang car was still there-
If I were Dr. Harrington, and I say this respectfully, if I reached a point where I was feeling the investigation was at a standstill, and from the reference to “tense” describing their last meeting with LE, I think it might be getting close, I would publish a redacted cell record of Morgan’s that night. Because I am aware of some intentional Mis-information that has been spread between PD’s in this case, I have some serious questions as to “why.”
B
comment by Blink:
B
It is my understanding that VSP is heading the investigation and her case does show as transferred on the UVA PD site.
I have no information as to whether that was a request by UVA or a jurisdictional issue at the behest of VSP.
WRT the purse stolen report, I have no idea for sure if it is connected. I am suggesting a look at the incident report will certainly tell us. I do not know where you are getting confirmation that Morgan’s car was parked in Uhall, I have not seen it confirmed whatsoever where her car was parked.
If I missed that, my apollies and I will reach for the thinking goblet. My point is, we have a complaint of a purse and content stolen from a car parked in THE PARK called at the exact moment (ish) that Morgan’s battery is dead. No vehicular break in. The call is suspended.
Here’s the thing , the PARK is noted as a 20 minute round trip accessibility on the UVA site, the occurrance below:
10/17/2009
LARCENY FROM VEHICLE – The Park 200901369/22
Reported purse and contents stolen from vehicle
RPT: 2130 10-17-09 OCC: 1738 10-17-09 to 1755 10-17-09
It states the theft occurs between 5:38 PM and 5:55PM. Remember that Dan dropped the girls off and parked the car? That is the only lot far enough away that would need for him to do that and the range is correct. Who gives a range of when it was stolen? A person making an accusation as to who stole it and their opportunity to do so.
Was she stating her friends had access to the car during that time and it was stolen to get them out of the arena and hand over her keys and she was intercepted by someone she knew on the bridge intended to meet the PD at the car?
Le asks if anyone loaned Morgan their phone while she was outside the arena.. So they are stating there is a reason to believe she borrowed one prior to her last sighting at 9:35, if to be believed. Blue phone?
Morgan’s purse appears in the Cage Lot the next morning “insides strewn about” with no battery, which was not recovered and removed the prior evening at the same time of a stolen purse report.
If someone could dispel the connection and put me out of my misery I would be forever grateful. It is my nemisis.
I say this is Morgan trying to get into her car and locate her purse in a crisis.
B
I found the granny sighting thanks to Skyler’s previous hard work. The sighting was around 9:30pm…..wow
Skyler I am posting your entire comment because 1 I miss you, and I hope you’re ok and 2 there is alot of great info in this post:
Comment by SKYLER — December 28, 2009 @ 11:45 am
sorry — I hit “submit comment” before I wrote in what I was posting — I went to the facebook page link and started from the beginning — closest to the 17th — these are random posts, but the kids on there were immediately putting the info on their pages and sending it to their fb friends — the majority of the comments were praying for her safe return — there were a few snide comments, which were deleted — but nowhere did I see a post that said, sorry to see you’re gone; gonna party like it’s 1999 ’cause you’d want us to do that — it is my experience in the legal field, it is your memory closest to the event that is the best — I can only read thru post No. 50 — gotta go to work — but I’ll add a few more posts and then the link —
I am sure these girls know more than they’re stating publicly — in the first news conference, LE was ’strongly urging’ the friends to come forward w/ what they knew — so they were tight lipped then — nearest to the event, when all info is most pertinent —
Stephanie Colegrove (VCU) wrote
at 12:53am on October 24th, 2009
She looks so familiar.. Im pretty sure I saw her on Sunday in Harrisonburg but im not 100%. I work at a hotel and we see lots of people go in and out. Hope shes okay..
*** the grandmother’s story was posted, and I’ll post it again for those who might have missed it — in it, she says “around 9:30″ — which has been brought up here before — but maybe that’s why I missed her on the bridge — I was just too soon : (
Possible Witness Comes Forward in Search for Missing VT Student
Posted: Oct 23, 2009 3:47 PM EDT
Updated: Nov 06, 2009 4:59 AM EST
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New Clues In Harrington Case
We have new details on the search for Morgan Harrington. A grandmother from the Richmond area says she was in the parking lot of John Paul Jones Arena the night Morgan disappeared. What she saw could be a clue to unraveling the mystery of what happened.
This story is chilling. This grandmother says she saw a young woman and a young man physically struggling with one another, and the young woman looked a lot like Morgan. The grandmother wants to remain anonymous for her own safety.
She called police Monday night after she saw Harrington’s picture on the news. She says the fight unfolded behind her car parked outside the John Paul Jones Arena the night Metallica took the stage. At about 9:30, the same time police say Morgan Harrington had still been on the arena grounds, the woman pulled into a parking space to pick up her son and grandson from the show. That’s when she says a loud noise startled her.
“I heard them being very loud and it sounded like maybe like she got smacked or something. The two people were in like a hand lock she had her hands on his arm and he had his hands on her arm pushing back and forth.”
The woman says the girl started walking back toward the arena and the young man headed for the road, but ran back to the girl. She says the girl looked just like Morgan and it appeared the couple knew each other. The woman only had a vague description of the young man she saw.
Crimestoppers has announced a $100,000 reward for information leading to the whereabouts of Morgan Harrington, that reward should be official by Monday. If you have any information about this case, call the tip line at 434-352-3467 .
*** And this is what gripes my soul — people posted a link to a pix of apparently Dee — this is Sara’s and then Dee’s response — but what gets me is, Sara says “thru a mutual friend” — w/out mentioning that the “mutual friend” drove them to the concert and they talked w/ Dee after the concert “one of our members are missing” — it’s just deception, deception, deception — from the very beginning —
Dee Spolarics (JMU) wrote
at 3:52pm on October 26th, 2009
Just to confirm, those picture are of me and my boyfriend, they are not Morgan, just as Sarah has said
Report
Sarah Snead (Northside High) wrote
at 3:36pm on October 26th, 2009
Those pictures are of a boy and girl that go to JMU…i actually know them through a mutual friend and am 100% positive that that is not morgan. She has longer hair, her shirt was not cut off, and she had on hose. That video was brought to my attention last night but i am sure that is not morgan. Keep up the good work though.
Danny Ryan Pisano wrote
at 10:19pm on October 26th, 2009
news I SAW MORGAN Right be four she got locked out and i saw her walking in the parking lot then i lost contact but before we had bumped into each other
*** weren’t her seats 312 ??
Corey Hall (Christiansburg High) wrote
at 3:20pm on October 27th, 2009
Anyone know where her seats were… was she on the floor section? I was at the show, I can recall a girl in the 313 section before metallica went on with black boots, fishnets, black shirt, dunno if it was pantera or not.
*** This identifies another of Dee’s “party” — so we know Dee, Zack and this kid, Kyle Priber
Kyle Priber wrote
at 6:01pm on October 27th, 2009
idk if any of my other friends posted this yet. but the new video of the security camera as we’re all leaving the floor after the show. the blond girl in the video is my friend zack’s (holding the beach ball) is not morgan, her name is Dee. it is a coincidence that they both had the same outfits on, but that grainy video doesnt offer much to go on. the one thing morgan’s father noticed was the girl in the video was not wearing tights which morgan was wearing tights that night to the concert. Dee has contacted the tipline, and the local news telling them that its not her, and tonight on the harrisonburg news they will be clearing up the confusion from the video of all 5 of us leaving. thank you
** this one doesn’t make much sense ??
Danny Ryan Pisano wrote
at 6:04pm on October 27th, 2009
i saw her before and after the show before she and i bumped into each other it was her cause after we picked up her cell phone with she was texting i believe walked off
*** hmm Russell’s been posting a lot —
Russell Baker IV wrote
at 7:31pm on October 27th, 2009
this was a friend of one of my best friends. Morgan i’m praying for you, and i hope your okay
** Josh Mason, whose admin’g the fb page reports this after several people asked Dylan to call tipline w/ the info he had —
Joshua Mason wrote
at 9:05pm on October 27th, 2009
I contacted this Dylan fella. He said that he was “on stage” and would contact the police after he was done. So, I don’t know if he will. I hope so.
** Suz, can you translate ???
Danny Ryan Pisano wrote
at 9:36pm on October 27th, 2009
Wat is up im talking to all u guys about wat i saw it was now confirmed that i did bump into her pantera shirt everything….. if anybody has Q. Contact me at ironfist4@gmail.com
Dustin Wood (Appalachian State) wrote
at 9:55pm on October 27th, 2009
dylan gave his info out yall. dont complain. he saw her at 730 at the tshirt stand at the concert andd thats it. he said she seemed very sober as well. thats all he can confirm. if u want to report it call the line but thats all he knows.
*** just posting,not commenting …
Jennifer Grover wrote
at 12:27pm on October 28th, 2009
Please someone look in the North Garden area in storage shed near railroad tracks. this is from dowsing on a map with a pendulum. There is no scientific explaination for how it works, but it often does for finding things and people. I do not live near there and have never been there. Please be careful and go in a group, a tracking dog or scent hound would be ideal. When people are searching, please try there.
****
dustin now saying he knows both this “Dylan” guy and Morgan and Morgan’s texting habits —
Dustin Wood (Appalachian State) wrote
at 12:51pm on October 28th, 2009
the bridge is the only way to find the next piece of the puzzle. someone has to look for her next step.
also if they saw her, we have to be able to identify who she was with. i know her too well to think she would travel by herself over that bridge.
plus she texts a lot so i would think that she would atleast have have texts that help with the case but u wonder, if the bag is missing at that parking lot and she was forced onward to the bridge, that the ppl she was with at the bridge would solve it. she wouldnt just leave the cell phone somewhere with a bag on her own. makes me think if she was alone at the bridge then that wasnt actually her because she would have been forced to not have the bag.
** I agree w/ Kolby
Kolby Houghton (UVA) wrote
at 6:13pm on October 29th, 2009
something in this case doesnt add up…
why would she leave the concert right before the band she waited 6 months to see was about to play? if she was looking for a bathroom it makes no sense to go outside, im sure she is smart enough to know that there are tons of bathrooms inside an arena. and why would she wander around by herself into the night when she could have waited with her friends near the arena, it seems like she already had the idea that she wasnt going back with her friends that night.
if u think about this logically, it doesnt make sense.
**** Okay — I read thru link 32 — bottom line: Sara Snead, et al, knew about the HH’g sighting on the bridge in October, soon after Morgan went missing — so whomever is in the pix w/ their thumb stuck out — is mocking Morgan –
If you think I’m being “harsh” on these “friends” — absolutely ! And I make no apologies. They know more than they’re telling — they hid the truth from the beginning, when time nearest the incident is so important — and they left C-ville w/out Morgan, w/out knowing where she was, whom she was w/ and they didn’t notify a soul — or – they left C-ville knowing where she was/whom she was w/, but unable to speak w/ her personally.
I tell my kid all the time, if you are in a car, the driver pulls into a 7-11 (or Sheetz) saying he’s going in to buy a Coke, and robs the place while he’s in there — you are a party to the action unless you get out of the car and immediately call the police. If the person brandishes a gun and shoots and kills the clerk, you are as guilty of murder as though you had pulled the trigger unless you immediately get out and call the police.
These “friends” are guilty of collusion, at least, in not telling everything that they know. I hope LE comes down hard on them — but I’m not holding my breath.
And yet again, Morgan is a victim ….
B – re: “say it like I do.. Isss- U”
Alright, Jersey Girl.
“…I am suggesting the issue, regarding whether or not the car was in fact there, was not a shared fact within UVAPD. I have knowledge that for whatever reason, LE in that PD were told the car remained in H-Burg. This was weeks ago, no room to say they might not have gotten the memo.
Perhaps that led to the case transfer fully to VSP?~B”
That *would* immediately switch it to VSP’s jurisdiction, despite the fact that her purse – and her person, for the most part – were found/seen (respectively) on campus near the JPJ that night and not reported elsewhere outside that area.
But if the car wasn’t there, than LE released a false report to the public for some reason – which would be highly unusual (why release anything at all?). And the Harringtons, as well as the Friends – right down to the boyfriend of another Friend, who was, according to LE, the driver of MH’s car – were all told to what? play along? I don’t know if my GPS* covers this area of the map, B…
(*Goblet Powered Speculation device)
B – re: Pickles Posers/OT
Oh please post, B – maybe it will help us elevate our verses!
And in regard to (#1078), no, it’s probably not *you* – suz and I are debating the literary legacy of Edgar Allan Poe and “wich B hiz city” through, um, Pickles Speak. Not exactly brain-food for the lofty minded… but for some reason, it’s really amusing to temporarily lobotomize yourself.
Ya know, Philly, you bring up an interesting point. I never thought of that. Perhaps to save face, to the Officers of UVA PD as to why the VSP took jurisdiction, they told them the car never made it, so they were taking the case.
*clink of thinking mug*
I find that palatable, but not professional, if that’s the case. A case in point would be that this information was given to me a a civillian, so there are many walking around with misinformation and imo, that is dangerous in a mp investigation.
You got me on “The Park”, as I posted in an earlier piece, U N L E S S… They had a permit from Alex or Dr. Harrington’s tenure there.
Could it be a coinky dink? Yes. Shaking my magic blink ball, I get “doubtful” try again.
B
O.K. I’m skipping ahead, without reading. Mr. Security guy tells Morgan not to worry when she advises him her purse was confiscated at arrival to JPJA. he finds her in side & says meet me outside in 10, I’ll have your purse & get you back in. They meet, he tries to charge her a “kiss” for the purse. Fight ensues, granny witnesses. Morgan takes off, borrows a phone, reports purse stolen. Mr. S. hears report on his po-po scanner band radio, thinks holy schmolly, I gotta get rid of this, pulls the battery & drops in the last place he saw Morgan headed. Locates her, says “I’m sorry baby, Iz jus playin”, she gets in car & poof! Gone.
#1095 Elizabeth,
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. Excellent post.
We do not know for sure if the cell phone was with the purse.
“She was wearing it that night,” Geller said. “She dropped her purse and her cell phone, so maybe she might have dropped her necklace also.”
This statement allows for the assumption that they were dropped separately. Also, remember we still do not have clarification on who found the purse. We have heard several different stories. Again, we do not know for sure where the purse was found we have heard several different stories.
IMO We have to look at LE’s statement that these items are not important. and ask ourselves why they wouldn’t be important. Right now Blink’s theory makes sense.
Again, I ask why is LE questioning if anyone lent Morgan their phone? Why is LE saying the purse and cell are not important,yet the necklace is….but not her other jewelry?
B -
Of note:
The Park Lot (D3) was *not* designated as event parking for the concert that night.
(http://www.jonesarena.com/documents/MetallicaParkingOptions.pdf)
There is no reason – related to her car/other vehicle – that she would be in/go to That lot (I believe it is parking by pricy permit and reserved for the Law School/nearby residences, and occasionally for overflow handicap parking, with shuttle, for football games crowds).
Also, it is nearly a mile walk from the JPJ:
(http://www.mapmyrun.com/route/us/va/charlottesville/263125072266971011)
I can’t imagine she’d even know it existed to file a false report, if that’s a possibility.
Can you offer a leeeettle more info to make this (seemingly) square-shaped scenario fit in the round hole of her reported circumstances/movements?
Sorry, responded to this jointly with last post.
B
Blink,
Please remove my comments to Elizabeth. I went way too far. Sorry.
A huge city vehicle aka snow plow motoring down my street accidentally “took out” the internet connection for the neighborhood soon after I posted to Elizabeth, and AS I HIT the submit button for a softer addendum.
AAAACCCKKKK! I was going bizzerk here.
WPG- will hunt them down, but in case I miss them, I think this is perfectly fair.
B
Blink,
You stated, “I believe they (LE) were told this information by witnesses they had no reason to question the credibility of, and/or they were told this by witnesses explaining why she was in their vehicle.”
>>> Where do the JPJA security personnel usually park? <<<
judi, I’m always hoping that the Harrington’s have insider info and thus the change in tone (Morgan is alive) reflects that knowledge. But then I also consider that they are Unity churchgoers, and from what I recall from those very uplifting services, the concept “Our thoughts are prayers, and we are always praying” i.e., your thoughts create reality, so try to think happy thoughts to create a happy reality, is central to the belief system.
In fact, Gil’s skeleton and blood comments really threw me for a loop not only for their rawness, but because I know they’re not ‘supposed’ to be thinking like that for lack of a better word.
Unless you call from a blue phone that goes right to UVA security, don’t you dial 911 from a borrowed cell phone and get the regular police, not UVA police, to report your stolen purse?
Dr. Harrington stated he believes she is alive and in Cville, AFTER meeting/briefing with VSP the other day. hummm. Seems like more than wishful thinking on DH’s part. Is that what VSP told the Harringtons?
So many things went wrong and all in one night? How can that be?
This is all so strange.
Hi, Everyone — Blink, this is a little OT, but thank you all for your kind thoughts — it’s been a rough 2 days w/out watching the news or anything — I was so hoping to come here to see updated news about Morgan — and Blink, that clever girl, grabs your heart w/ her front page of those poor missing children — Ann Lamont wrote a wonderful book called Traveling Mercies. In it, she was having job/financial problems and one of her friends told her: if your only problem is money, you got no problem — compared to the Harringtons, my job loss is a walk in the park —
Lovely, I absolutely will take you up on your offer. I’ve created an email: and you can contact me there —
Again thanks to everyone, and to you Blink for this little diversion —
I glanced at the posts trying to figure out where I left off, but want to read them more in depth –
signed Sky, who’s thrown herself a huge pitty party (sans mummy costume and guzzling beer pix) who sobbed buckets the past two days but woke up this AM and decided to take her big girl pill and decide what the heck to do about all this.
Before my accident in 2005 i actually was a writer and had published one book and was in negotiation w/ Random house for what I thought was a killer book — then I had that accident and literally lost my mind — and the book — and all the notes — maybe it’s time to revisit that after all these years ! : )
Atta Girl Sky. If it is ok with you, I try to never publish an email. I will give this to lovely personally and she can reach out to you that way. Now that your on big girl time ( I’m feeling you btw ) give it to the big man for a day and your answers will come. Yes, I am telling you what you already know.
B
B’s comment on 1064: “My belief is that it was. That Dan dropped the girls off, parked the car, and met them afterwards. The timeline of the stolen purse matches that window, imo.
B”
But Blink, do you discredit the whatshisname acquaintance who says he parked next to them and spoke with her as they got out of her parked car? That made me think they all parked together. Why would he say that if not true …
Elizabeth @1096, very well said. I hope you are wrong but at this point I cannot disagree with you.
Awa @1097: But whoever stole her purse could have grabbed her/enticed her with her purse as she made the 9:30 call, thus putting purse and phone back together and powering down phone forever… Necklace and camera had been in purse or car (remember I think she might’ve taken off the heavy necklace since Granny didn’t mention it) when it went missing, and friends are sure about this, thus LE’s interest in those two items. And the purse itself is irrelevant to LE b/c it was recovered. Just a theory … otherwise I cannot make sense of the purse report and final powering-down of Morgan’s phone being simultaneous (I also think they might be unrelated) …
fwiw Morgan Nichols & Dan C are no longer fb friends
They are/were boyfriend and girlfriend.
B
Trying to catch up from last night – WOW!! Are we now thinking that Morgan called to report her purse missing as a way of trying to get into her vehicle since Dan had the keys?
Are we also thinking Dan did not attend the concert but just dropped the girls off and picked them back up?
If so, why wouldn’t Morgan call Dan to get into the car?
Or, maybe she did……..
If it was stolen, then certinaly there would be items missing from her purse.
Did Mr. Harrington decline to respond if her card were used at all between Morgan’s last known sighting and when the purse was found? Or maybe ATTEMPTED To be used? Her account was supposed to have been overdrafted, correct?
Where are the comments by the Harringtons that they believe Morgan to be alive? I see statements to the effect that they believe the perpetrator is still in the Charlottesville area, but am not finding the statements that Morgan herself is believed by them to be alive.
My “working theory” changes daily. I think that is because there are so many brilliant minds on this board and everybody brings something to the table and all with valid points.
Geez, so frustrating, wish we could have answers to some of the basic questions anyhow. That would certainly help eliminate stuff, especially some of the details from what the BB players said – if she have her purse then, what did she say – how did she get outside the concert, was she meeting someone, why is the car and purse of no importance, etc? At least throw us a bone so that we have something to use to narrow things down a little.
Bottom line, it has been nearly three months and no Morgan, no arrests. If LE is being quiet for investigative reasons and they obviously don’t have enough info and/or evidence to make an arrest or find Morgan yet after all this time, are we to believe the person responsible is able to outsmart LE for this long? I find that very hard to believe that we are dealing with a mastermind criminal here and if we are, UVA and all of Charlottesville (heck all of VA for that matter) better be on high alert.
Suz, yes and it may also be wishfull thinking on my part as I really, really hope she is still alive and therefore I may be reading more into the Harrington’s statements because of that.
>>>OH BIG OH it just dawned on me why she would take the battery out ,IF it got wet in the rain absolutely you take the battery out to dry.but at any rate big ugh hmmm… on this map her purse was at the last place someone is known to have spoken to her.
I’m back-reading — boy, I’ve missed you guys; talk about “Blink-w/drawal” — but it’s like coming here afresh — you guys are just amazing !! — this was SusanM’s comment I posted — that makes absolute sense — “In the beginning … I bought my kid this really great phone that had a qwerty keyboard because he texed all the time — well, this is gross; warning — when he was employed on his break he was standing there peeing — sorry — and texting — what a multi-tasker, my boy — then flushed — sorry again — and thought he was dropping his phone in his pocket — well, missed the pocket and ker-plunk !! — first thing he did — took the battery out — too late — phone had a burial at sea — kind of
second phone I got him was a razor — the Motorolla razor has some kind of software where it repairs itself if the components get wet — because he’s gotten the dang thing wet a bunch; dropped it in a rain puddle and I just didn’t ask the other times, but he plops the battery out and hits it w/ a hair dryer — he’s worn that one out and is on phone No. 3 for christmas — but anybody have any idea what brand of phone Morgan had ? As I recall, the first phone was an LG and that battery was really difficult to get out — the Motorolla was a lot easier — last phone is a Samsung and that battery is really snug — I’m not cell phone savvy — but his Samsung is a data phone and is about the size of a blackberry — so the back is larger and is difficult to get off — I’ve got a 3 y/o moto flip and the back and battery are hard to take off — but that razor popped off easy
I think SusanM might be on to something …. if we apply OR to this …
this question is to Blink or anyone else who has this type of information — because I don’t know —
in reading Judi’s comment, which I’ll paste at the bottom, she brings up the point that it’s 3 mos. later no arrests — I do know that the Harringtons and LE/prosecution do have different goals — LE’s goal is not only to recover/discover what happened to Morgan, but also make an arrest and have a successful prosecution, if one is warranted — so I know they have to be careful and ensure they take all the legal/proper steps —
The Harringtons just want to know what happened to Morgan, and if she is alive, to bring her back home — period. At this point. If Morgan has met w/ her demise, once they have her back and can mourn her properly — then they’ll want the person(s) responsible prosecuted. If I were them, and believe me, I am on their team, right now, I just want Morgan back, too. Later, I will be in that courtroom if it leads to that …
but my question is: worse case scenario and Morgan is no longer w/ us — would LE sacrifice a successful prosecution to discover her fate — or — would they just allow the perp, if one is ID’d, to remain free until they had enough evidence to arrest and prosecute —
simplified: say LE knows for certain who is responsible, but they don’t have the evidence necessary for “successful” prosecution — would they NOT bring him/her/them in and say: listen, just tell us where she is and you walk — OR — would they bide their time until they have enough evidence to arrest and prosecute —
I hope you can figure out what I’m trying to ask — it’s a bit jumbled —
I keep going back in my mind to Jon Benet’ Ramsey — LE was so positive it was one of the parents, the parents became their only focus, even though there was evidence of a third party — now, after both parents are dead, and science has evolved in DNA identification, they’ve found evidence, DNA evidence, that in fact, it was someone else.
It’s just buggin’ me that if LE thinks it’s ONE person and they’re waiting/focusing all their attention on that ONE person — in the meantime, the Harringtons are in Hell …….
here’s Judi’s comment:
Bottom line, it has been nearly three months and no Morgan, no arrests. If LE is being quiet for investigative reasons and they obviously don’t have enough info and/or evidence to make an arrest or find Morgan yet after all this time, are we to believe the person responsible is able to outsmart LE for this long?
Comment by Momof3 — January 15, 2010 @ 1:01 am
If DD dropped off girls then went to park the only person that would know the exact spot the car was in is the DD.
If Morgan was not allowed into the arena with her bag DD would have driven off with it.
If DD returned to watch the entire concert when was purse known to be stolen? When Morgan left arena?
If stolen from car could someone have told Morgan hey your purse was stolen from car in The Park – Morgan ran out to see,not allowed back in-
or purse wasn’t really stolen friends played joke- didn’t tell Morgan- Morgan already reported purse stolen-
Thoughts anyone?
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I wonder if part of her wanderings after leaving the arena was simply looking in the likely parking lots for her car?
On the purse issue — it does not make sense to me that it was stolen before the concert (or that she left it in the car) as her phone was found with it (right?) and she was using it after leaving the arena. I suppose the thief could have been pretending to be her (though that seems unlikely but possible) but the substance of the call/texts would probably clear that up for LE.
Comment by Judi:
‘Bottom line, it has been nearly three months and no Morgan, no arrests. If LE is being quiet for investigative reasons and they obviously don’t have enough info and/or evidence to make an arrest or find Morgan yet after all this time, are we to believe the person responsible is able to outsmart LE for this long? I find that very hard to believe that we are dealing with a mastermind criminal here and if we are, UVA and all of Charlottesville (heck all of VA for that matter) better be on high alert.’
I am all out of ideas, theories, speculations and corroborations. It seems LE has led us to think all along that this was a random or isolated case. Has issued no warnings for the Charlottesville area to be aware of a predator on the loose, concerning Morgan’s disappearance, that I am aware of. To my knowledge UVA issued news of Morgan’s disappearance (via email) and to be on the look out for someone matching her discription within the first twenty four hours of her missing person report and another right before Halloween, reminding students to be aware of their surroundings and to practice higher safety procedures when out on Halloween night. UVA always does this on Halloween, but this year a reminder of the recent disappearance of missing VA Tech student, Morgan Harrington, who disappeared from JPJ Arena was included. We now have Mr. Harrington’s recent statement, which all along he has said ‘the answers lie in the Charlottesville area’, and now ‘that Charlottesville is not as safe since Oct. 17′. He has taken it upon himself to issue a warning, and this, in my opinion, is another plea for someone with knowledge to come forward. Thank you Mr. Harrington.
Comment by acho:
‘But Blink, do you discredit the whatshisname acquaintance who says he parked next to them and spoke with her as they got out of her parked car? That made me think they all parked together. Why would he say that if not true …’
FWIW, this witness account has always seemed questionable to me. It seemed really odd to me that Morgan just randomly started talking to him and his group, excited about seeing Metallica, to the point of frustration, according to him, and rushed on ahead of the others. But, I think the most questionable part for me, was the coincidence that the two parties happened to be leaving the concert at the same time, no Morgan in the car. He says three, SS says two in the car back to JMU. And we’ve gone over all this before on this forum.
Someone up the thread brought up that possibly Morgan used someone else’s phone to call the friends. So, with this ever changing story, did Morgan call the friend or did the friend call Morgan? Some say this is not important. I think it may be. Why keep changing it? We have been told the missing battery isn’t important, the car isn’t important, the purse isn’t important. Well, what the hell is important? The fact Morgan is missing is most important, but why is nothing else important? This is just the way I am thinking today.
Now, as far the car (which it was established that it was definitely her car), why according to AM’s sister Amanda, the day after the concert, was it even mentioned that the car was still there in the parking lot? According to the friends, in this call, either to or from Morgan, she has told them ‘she would either catch a ride with friends from Charlottesville area or meet up with them.’ Amanda also said Morgan wouldn’t abandon her friends. So if she didn’t have her keys, how was she to do that?
Blink’s thinking on the stolen purse reported could very possibly be Morgan’s. I am kind of stumped on that one. But this could actually make sense, if indeed the car (cars) were parked in the Park.
This turned out to be longer than what I wanted and I know for the most part old news. Full circle?
Blink, I sincerely hope your mother is doing well and pray for her daily.
Skyler, I’m sorry you lost your job, and you too are on my prayer list.
To Blink and all my friends here, I wish you and yours a good, safe day.
Suz and Judi, ‘include me in’ the wishful thinking column. A corner of my thoughts always tentatively played with a walkaway option, though not necessarily a pre-planned one. Morgan’s closeness to her family always shouted down that musing, and it didn’t add up.
Blink, I think your ideas about the purse make sense; especially the oddly reported seventeen-minute span of precision.
Comment by wpgmouse — January 14, 2010 @ 11:43 pm:
[Now… uh-oh… The car WAS at The Park? And that narrows it down to Morgan and how many others with that knowledge?]
Blink’s reply:
[My belief is that it was. That Dan dropped the girls off, parked the car, and met them afterwards. The timeline of the stolen purse matches that window, imo. B]
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News7 Talked With Concert-goer Who Talked To Morgan Harrington Before She Disappeared http://www.wdbj7.com/Global/story.asp?S=11369010
Excerpts:
One U.Va graduate who was the concert tells News 7 he remembers seeing Morgan before the concert in the parking lot.
“It was definitely her, I’m 100 percent certain of that,” says Dave Gardner.
“She pulled up with her party and got out of her parties car and kind of immediately engaged me and my brother and my cousin and my friend who were at the concert,” says Gardner.
“They weren’t really tailgating. There was no evidence of drinking.”
Gardner says Harrington only spoke to his group for a few minutes before heading toward the arena, but he says he remembers seeing the car after the concert without Morgan.
“There were definitely just three people in the car.”
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Facebook post from Dave Gardner:
Dave Gardner: i don’t know morgan but parked next to her at the concert and spoke with her before going in. i did not see her afterwards but did notice the car she came in with the others waiting on her as we left. i called the police but not sure my knowledge adds anything, except keeping her in my thoughts/prayers. October 20, 2009 at 10:12pm
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?v=feed&story_fbid=163357216575&gid=162224546575
To Blink:
thank you so much — you are absolutely right about the “Big Man” and I am following your sage advice — that’s why I made up that email addy — but if you can do it privately, that’s great — I really appreciate it —
I have so missed this site and everyone ! I hope the Harringtons are at least aware of this site, even if it’s too difficult for them to read — if they only knew how much they and their missing child are cared for here ….
I apologise again for the long post above. I am really frustrated with the go nowhere of this case and need to blow steam. Sorry to make you guys subject to that.
>>>Are we also thinking Dan did not attend the concert but just dropped the girls off and picked them back up? <<<
that question was asked either on FB or findmorgan.com — and the answer was that yes, he attended the concert and was inside the entire time —
the questions that were not answered were: where was his seat; did he have a ticket prior and just drove down w/ the girls; did he take the ticket that was originally meant for his then g/f Morgan Nicols? Dan, the driver’s, brother is a huge metal fan — *perhaps* he and brother had tickets prior and Dan ended up driving down w/ Morgan and crew and met up w/ his brother at the concert —
who knows ?
According to Dave Gardner, he parked next to Morgan and her party.
suz’s comment: >>don’t you dial 911 from a borrowed cell phone and get the regular police<<<
The only time in Richmond I ever called 911 on my cell, I had come upon an accident in a major intersection that obviously had just occurred — the 911 call went straight to the VSP, not the local police 911 dispatch center.
Anybody else have any info that if you dial 911 it goes to local police and not VSP ??
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Dan and Gil Harrington, the parents of missing Virginia Tech student Morgan Harrington, believe their daughter is still alive and potentially in the Charlottesville area.
The Harringtons spoke to reporters Tuesday afternoon outside the John Paul Jones arena in Charlottesville, the same location where Morgan was last seen in October while attending a Metallica concert. Several eyewitnesses reported seeing her in various spots around the arena as she left the concert, and she was last spotted near the Copeley Road Bridge less than a half mile away from the arena.
Dan Harrington said he believes the party involved with Morgan’s disappearance may be in the area.
“Whoever took Morgan is still in this community. This is still a vulnerable community,” he said.
The Harringtons met with Charlottesville area law enforcement Tuesday along with Monica Caison, the founder and director of the Community United Effort Center for Missing Persons, an organization from Wilmington, North Carolina.
Caison’s professional search team hopes to increase the search area as well as re-visit areas previously searched by volunteers and law enforcement. Caison added that she hopes a search can begin in February.
Dan Harrington praised ongoing volunteer efforts in the Charlottesville area, saying he had been pleased with both law enforcement and volunteer responses to his daughter’s disappearance.
“I think there are ongoing efforts here,” he said. “We will encourage them to continue that.”
Harrington also spoke about the recent confirmation that his daughter had consumed alcohol the night of the concert.
“Alcohol use among college students is typical, but her behavior was described as not typical,” Harrington said. “None of this makes sense.”
Harrington said that his greatest fear, three months after their daughter’s disappearance, “is that Morgan be forgotten.”
“Having a hole in your life that’s unfilled, it’s very painful,” Harrington said. “No one should have to go through that.”
A $150,000 reward is offered for information leading to the location and recovery of Harrington. Anyone with information is asked to call Virginia State Police at 434-352-3467.
“The answer we believe is in the Charlottesville area.” (Lt. Rader, Dec. 30)
I thought the supreme question was Where is Morgan? And I understood his comment to mean they believe *Morgan* is in the Charlottesville area. Are we making an assumption by thinking he means the *perpetrator* is in the Cville area?
Has LE publicly indicated the cell-phone battery remains missing? Were any of the search parties instructed to look for it? Yes, I realize it’s the needle in the haystack, but if it hadn’t been recovered and could hold some clues (perp DNA?) why not ask the public to keep any eye out for it?
Skyler, yay for you. Hope you have a good big-girl day today.
To back up what you say at 1125, I also called 911 from my cell to report an accident I witnessed on 85S. This was less than a year ago, in Dinwiddy County, Virginia, and the VSP took the call.
Blink, Good Morning,
“perfectly fair” – - request or comments?
both, but I found your other afterward and just deleted it.
B
sorry — don’t mean to post so much — boy, you’re out 2 days and you guys are the Energizer Bunny — more incredible thoughts : )
I think I probably am the only one who thinks this, but I don’t think the Boyds Tavern event is connected — because —
if there was a person in that car who needed medical attention — Charlottesville is the closest hospital and Lord, you’d pray they’d ask for where is the closest ER — not driving all the way back to H-burg if someone was OD’d or OD’g —
my initial feeling on the Boyds Tavern event is perhaps this was a high school kid — or even college-aged kid — who maybe had a date w/ a high-school kid whose parents said: you be home by 10 or else — they may have told parents they were only going to a movie, but came to the C-ville area instead and got lost — I’m feeling ‘em on the getting lost part — and it’s nearing the time to return for curfew —
I know that’s far out — the entire Boyds Tavern thing is weird – and I do belive the poster is being honest about what happened —
I could be wrong, but that’s just my take –
B -
Mugs certainly don’t *clink* as well as Goblets, but they will have to do for now. I’m still working my way through my first T-mug, though, so my following elaboration of your thought regarding MH’s car and case jurisdiction may be half-baked(sipped) – but here goes anyway:
You commented – “Perhaps to save face, to the Officers of UVA PD as to why the VSP took jurisdiction, they told them the car never made it, so they were taking the case.”
Thinking it rhough in a linear fashion, Dan Harrington called UVA police mid-day Sunday, assuming MH went missing in their jurisdiction (and he may have known people high up in the department), to get her case kick-started because he was beginning to panic. Soon after, UVAPD connects with SS and AM (guessing here) over the phone, and questions them as to MH’s whereabouts/description of events the night before.
If the *inital* info UVAPD was working with was that the friends traveled from JMU to Cville in another (Dan’s?) car (*was* this even what was reported?), then the three friends coordinated their stories – which would indicate they didn’t want to get MH in trouble if she was with a guy or sleeping off a crazy party night – further indicating that MH may have separated from her friends while out with them in the past, and it was not a cause for concern (a guy in his early 20s, whose name escapes me, had a great post about this up-thread) – except to keep her from being busted by her parents by saying the wrong thing.
By Monday, VSP was involved and it was being approached from a missing-person/criminal angle. I assume, at the same time, Cville PD and other agencies were brought into the investigation as support units as well.
I should note: UVA police jurisdiction includes the property of the university as well as streets and sidewalks adjacent to the campus, and it maintains “mutual aid” and cooperative patrol agreements with the CPD, giving it jurisdiction in much of the city surrounding UVA. So, this sort of negates some of the speculation (not so much here, but elsewhere) that the HH scenario was put forth to push MH just outside of the UVA bubble for PR purposes (which always sound on the ludicrous side to me, but…).
Regardless, I can confirm: there is no UVAPD “bubble”; jurisdiction is fluid.
I don’t know (and couldn’t find) enough about what UVAPD’s initial (Sunday-into-Monday) investigation revealed, so it’s hard to speculate if VSP – upon more in-depth questioning of her friends – unveiled a different set of cirmustances than was first apparent, and if this reflected poorly on UVAPD proceedures.
To your point: “information (about her car remaining in Hburg) was given to me a a civilian, so there are many walking around with misinformation and imo, that is dangerous in a mp investigation.”
I agree that misinformation is a debilitating hurdle that can have significant consequences for the case/victim – mainly in that it slows the investigatory process down. As far as the misinformation regarding her car that was shared with you, however, it’s hard to fathom how there could be a dispute there.
The primary way through which investigators in any jurisdiction involved in the case know that her car was driven to the concert venue (by someone else, with MH in the backseat) is because those in the car *told* them, and they also must have revealed where the car was parked. Any misinformation had to come from these kids’ mouths that Sunday mrning, and upon the case taking a serious turn, with the big dogs brought in the next day, the true story (as far as the vehicle was concerned) came out.
With all of that considered (though, I obvs don’t know what you were told), how could the car be fodder for misinformation? Articles as early as Oct. 21 were reporting MH’s car was driven there. The friends could not have gotten away with back-peddling at that point, imo.
Lastly, as far as the Park Lot not being designated event parking, I agree with your “U-N-L-E-S-S” – IF MH had a permit for that parking area (D3) and was using it to avoid paying for parking at the JPJ/garage, it would stand to reason that the lean-budgeted students wouldn’t mind parking far from the venue. But I’ve got serious doubts about this possibility. It would also mean the trio had to hike nearly a mile back to their car after the show – unless they got a ride, and the scenario begins to involve so many details that it seems odd they weren’t revealed; nor were witnesses solicited in the Law School area of campus – and how could LE rule out MH going to and trying to get into her car? No. At this point, gotta say I’m ruling that Lot – and her ever being there – out.
But, you said it best, B: “Could it be a coinky dink? Yes. Shaking my magic blink ball, I get ‘doubtful’ try again.”
hmmmmmmmmm
Dan Gardner’s comment>>>“She pulled up with her party and got out of her parties car and kind of immediately engaged ** me and my brother and my cousin and my friend *** who were at the concert,” says Gardner.<<<
Someone fitting Morgan’s description, along with ** four ** males walked in front of the car driven by the Richmond bookkeeper around 9 PM
To the best of my knowledge, I spoke w/ my son at or about 9:10 PM, and Metallica was not on stage at that time — when I arrived back to the EconoLodge around 9:30 they had definitely taken the stage —
Could this have been Morgan and those 4 males walking either toward or away from the alleged party at the EconoLodge — then males went inside for Metallica leaving Morgan, and Morgan then interacted alone w/ the BB players —
one of which has recently married, Assne Sane (sp???) is my fB friend — he has now posted he is now married —
But is this how “Dan” is so “positive” it was Morgan — because he partied w/ her before Metallica ???
I dialed 911 last year in Albemarle County while driving behind a drunk driver and it went to the Albemarle County police. They told me that they had no police cars anywhere near where the car was driving (I followed him from Crozet to way past Shadwell (east of Cville) but said they would TRY to get a state police car to respond.
Skyler, your having more time to post is a plus. I read your posts and think “she writes just as she speaks, probably.” Also, I usually picture you leaning into your son’s car, with your dog at your heels. Best wishes with your job search, and I hope your communication skills and life knowledge will be put to good use.
Did Dan C. attend the concert?
Clementine, Hi thanks for bringing that interview with Dave over. Blink said “The first accounts, the freshest, are by far the most accurate.
What was stated, what was witheld? What were the Harrington’s saying vs. what they are saying now?”
Here’s another account of Dave’s, keep in mind Dave is Dee’s friend and Dan’s, the DD friend too :
One University of Virginia graduate said he remembers seeing Morgan Harrington before Saturday night’s concert in the parking lot.
“It was definitely her. I’m 100% certain of that,” he said.
Gardner, a 2005 UVA grad who now works in New Jersey, came back to Charlottesville to see Metallica.
“She pulled up with her party and got out of the car and kind of immediately engaged me and my brother and my cousin and my friend who were at the concert,” he told CBS Station WDBJ correspondent Jean Jadhon. “She did seem excited for Metallica, “because she asked us who the opening act was. We told her and then she immediately said, ‘Well, who cares anyway? We’re here to see Metallica, right?’”
Gardner says Harrington was anxious to get into the arena. “It was clear to us she wanted to get in there and no one else was in as big of a hurry as her and it was frustrating for her,” he said.
Gardner said he did not see evidence that either Harrington or the people in the car she was in were drinking, and didn’t want to speculate on it.
Harrington only spoke to Gardner’s group for a few minutes before heading toward the arena, but he says he remembers seeing the car after the concert – without Morgan.
“There were definitely just three people in the car, and she was the only one we spoke to, and we all noticed that she wasn’t in the car,” he said.
Gardner did not think much about it until … “My Dad e-mailed me and said, ‘Did you hear someone vanished at the concert?’ And I, you know, I got online out of curiosity and a chill just ran straight down my spine when I saw the picture.”
sorry to add more carrots to the pot, but — this is starting to make a little more sense to me now —
Dan Gardner’s statement (the guy parked by Morgan) >>“She pulled up with her party and got out of her parties car and kind of immediately engaged me and my brother and my cousin and my friend who were at the concert,” says Gardner.<<<
Now, there’s a video of a girl who looks like Morgan and w/ Amy standing nearby during the LOG part of the show —
Gardner, who is from NJ and may or may not know Dee, who knows Morgan’s driver Dan, states he is “positive” it was Morgan — his statement is that when they parked their car, Morgan got out of the car —
here’s his statement : “She pulled up with her party and got out of her parties car and kind of immediately engaged ** me and my brother and my cousin and my friend *** who were at the concert,” says Gardner. <<<
At approximately 9 PM, a girl matching Morgan’s description walks in front of the Richmond bookkeeper’s car, accompanied by ** four ** males crossing Massie Road and shakes her leg at the car.
*** Suppose *** in the conversation w/ Dan Gardner he tells Morgan — there’s a party at the EconoLodge pre-concert — we’re going to hang out there until Metallica comes on stage — because “that’s who we’re here to see; right?” –
The boys head off to the EconoLodge, Morgan and crew go inside the arena — after LOG leaves the stage, Morgan goes out and heads over to EconoLodge and meets up with Dan and his other 3 males. The 4 males go inside, but Morgan is not allowed back into the arena — “Sorry, baby, for your luck, we’re here to see Metallica — catch you later after the show…”
So now Morgan is both inebriated and PO’d — tries to charm her way in w/ DW security guard, he turns her away, she gets into a little dust up w/ the female security guard, who turns her away — connects w/ Fred-burg guy who says she kicks him — she is stumbling around the parking lot, dropping her purse ’cause by now this girl is wasted, maybe has some type of head injury, maybe ingested more than alcohol at pre-party — she meets up w/ BB players — her damn phone is now wet and not working and she takes the battery out to dry it — but now is really impaired — has some kind of tussle w/ male in parking lot — per Granny — at some point meets up w/ BB players who talk to her for 10 full minutes — which is a long time to talk to a strange, inebriated girl — then she trots off on Copeley Bridge, allegedly HH’g — but — there’s another witness who sees her at the corner of Ivy and Copeley — not on the bridge — HH’g — and that’s the last we know of Morgan —
To the best of my knowledge, I spoke to my son at or about 9:10, and LOG defintely had left the stage and they were awaiting Metallica — by 9:30-ish when I finally made it back to EconoLodge, Metallica was definitely on stage.
11:30 PM, Metallica has left the building and people are leaving the arena. I know they’re young, but NJ is at least 2, maybe 3 hrs. away — had Dan Gardner and crew booked a motel room, or were they planning to drive all the way back to NJ that night ? He was on the outlook for Morgan, maybe hoping to hook up — perhaps innocently, just to party some more or whatever — he doesn’t see her and “perhaps” engages in conversation w/ Dan C, the driver, and the other at least 1 girl SS, and/or Amy — but earlier he had said only Morgan would talk to him, the others ignored him —
I honestly think that is a plausible scenario — it answers the question of *why* is Dan Gardner so *positive* that it was Morgan in the car — because he parties w/ her later but before Metallica comes on stage — and **who** are the four males she was walking w/ crossing Massie Rd around 9 PM, and ** why ** is she then alone around 9:30 PM when she encounters the BB players — and ** why ** is Dan Gardner again so positive Morgan was not in the car after the concert and why he called the tip line so quickly and why he is feeling bad about this.
Jump in the pool w/ me on this one, kids, and tell me why this scenario is wrong : )
Why all the secrecy about who drove?
Why all the secrecy about Morgan’s car being there?
Why all the secrecy about whether or not the girls were dropped off? Why all the secrecy about which lot the car was in?
Dave is friends with Dee and with Dan.
Why not just say, Hey, we all knew each other?
Why not just say,We parked next to one another?
Why not just say,Dee even was dressed like Morgan?
Why not just say,We all met up in the lot after the concert?
Why not just say, We were gonna go to a party ,we waited for awhile?
Why not just say,Morgan never showed……so we all went our separate ways?….
Morgan is missing. It was possibly an abduction. What does withholding this information accomplish?
Morgan is missing. If her car is not important to the investigation, and her purse is not important to the investigation,and the cell phone is not important to the investigation and her whereabouts/activities before the concert are not important, and the circumstances surrounding her exit to the arena are not important…. What is important? Morgan is missing, we know that is important. Where do we go from there?
B – re: Follow-up
Per our exchange last night:
(re: #1019/”wrong year anj-
You have to search on 2010 on that site to get 2009, NO IDEA why.”~B)
Now WHY would UVA Police admin not correct an easily fixable erroneous link, when the flub is making it much more difficult for taxpayers to access public records of UVA-based police/incident reports?
Why indeed.
B: “Thanks for the whiplash, it was not like that in November, that is new.~B”
So, I called UVAPD today, and informed the woman who answered the phone that the search years of their crime reports are mistakenly labled, and the years are off starting with 2009 (which repeats 2008 reports) and 2010 (which shows 2009 reports).
The woman didn’t miss a beat and said, “Really? Hmm. Okay. I was not aware. I’ll call our IT department and have them look into it.”
Good going J2K
B
# 1139 Comment by Momof3 — January 15, 2010 @ 12:26 pm
[snip] Here’s another account of Dave’s, keep in mind Dave is Dee’s friend and Dan’s, the DD friend too :
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Mom: Really? I must have missed this info along the way. Where did you learn that Dave Gardner knows Dee S. and Dan, the DD of Morgan’s car?
If that’s true, IMO it’s too much of a coincidence that they parked beside each other.
Makes me go hmmmmmmm.
Skyler,
Dan is so positive it was Morgan because he is friends with Dee and Dan, the driver of Morgan’s car. They, I believe were all gonna party after the concert….
My question, Was Granny’s sighting around 9:30 discounted because it contradicts the unknown witnesses that say she was on the bridge HH at this time?
Blink,
Tell me if this was ever verified. Several weeks after Oct. 17th I thought I read somewhere that when the recovery dogs traced Morgan’s scent she was traced downtown behind a shopping center/restaurants and the train station. I have not heard another thing about this…did they change this information?
Not verified that I know of.
B
Hey, Mom — great minds think alike, huh ?? : )
I was posting my Dan theory at the same time as you — but I had forgotten Dan was a former UVA grad — so……………
did he know someone “on the lawn” — the 911 call — where maybe they pre-partied as opposed to EconoLodge ?? And that’s why he knew to park in the same area as Morgan who is also familiar w/ the arena and parking ….
hmmmmmmmmmmmm
There are several aspects to this case that I would like to address.
——–Regarding the conflicts between Morgan sited dropping her cell phone and purse as she made her way from JPJA to where her purse was found and Morgan’s purse and phone being found sort of together, but missing the battery to the phone:
According to reports earlier, the purse Morgan was seen with in/at JPJA was (paraphrasing) ‘a tiny purse with straps that zipped together, which unzipped could be worn like a backpack’. It is possible that Morgan had her larger ‘regular purse’ with her in the car.
——–Also, its possible that Morgan had more than one cell phone with her, one of which could have been a private, unknown to parents, TracFone which may have taken the same the same type battery. If so, the missing battery may have been removed by Morgan for use in the TracFone, even before reaching Cville. Calls could be forwarded from her known cell number to the TracFone without revealing its use, but she would be free to make calls that were untraceable.
——-I would like to comment on the possibility of Morgan feeling unable/unwilling to face her parents if she for whatever reason had not to upheld the reasonable standards she had agreed to re: grades, budget, behavior, etc. Its quite possible that she was at a crossroads with the upcoming math test, bank account reconciliation, etc. with her father, etc., the stress from which could have been the impetus for any ‘escape’ into substance abuse that night. (no accusation intended.)
The resulting emotional upset combined with physical turmoil (possible effects of drugs, prescription medications, alcohol, possible lack of eating) could produce any number of problematic decisions on Morgan’s part.
Given these possibilities, it is conceivable that Morgan chose to ‘vanish’. I’m not saying that ‘Morgan choosing to disappear’ is the most likely scenario, but I can understand how she could have made that decision. This view is in no way a negative reflection on Dr and Mrs Harrington. These parents are truly exceptional and very loving in my view… True Heros!
Thanks for listening everyone. You are all awesome in your pursuit of the truth, and hope of finding Morgan.
Morgan…Please Come HOME or Help Us Find You!