Morgan Harrington Case: An Appeal To * You Know Who*
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Charlottesville, VA–The disappearance of Morgan Harrington, missing since October 17, 2009 is exhibiting the potential to reach a temperature that is currenlty encompassing the Northeast: VERY COLD.
Through the thousands of posts at blinkoncrime.com and numerous articles covering Morgan, it is clear that frustration in the lack of lead generation and ambiguous statements from the Virginia State Police are causing some to lack conviction Morgan will be found.
In a recent press conference by VSP, LE provided NO NEW information or progress regarding Morgan’s case. In a shift of posture by the Harrington family, Dr. Harrington has begun participating in online chat and sponsored an additional facebook site to help the efforts to find his daughter.
In fact, for the first time in 2.5 months, we know what kind of camera Morgan had with her the evening of the Metallica concert from his research.
In contrast, we have viewed footage and photos of her dear friends that have clearly moved on without the knowledge of their friends plight.
Girls will be girls you say? Before one person comes on here to tell me I am being too critical of these young women you should know that due to a fortunate Facebook update, describing these girls as Morgan’s friends is entirely generous.
Furthermore, if you happen to be one of the parents that has provided booze for underage minors captured on digital for all to see you may wish to take a peek at what is on your daughter’s social sites.
Have you thought about what it would be like to be Gil or Dan while your linin’ it up and throwin’ em back WITH your kids?
Fortunately, this is not the focus today. I do not feel Morgan’s friends did anything to directly cause her fate. They are more “ME” than frienemy, that is evident.
Gil Harrington, posting on the families site findmorgan.com, wrote one of the most eloquent and courageous posts from the Mother of a missing child I have ever read.
The snowfall is beautiful but still disturbing – melancholy. Wonder if Morgan is cold – is snow falling on her face – or is her face covered by leaves in a shallow grave being hidden by the snow. I glance out the window and see the crimson blaze of a cardinal at the bird feeder – my heart leaps for a second at the beauty – then I think its feathers look like blood in the snow. Is that what Morgan’s blood looks like in the snow? See how the pitfalls are everywhere – even at the bird feeder.
In a somewhat angst-ridden moment, a poster on blinkoncrime.com suggested any and all witnesses in this case should be subject to repeated Barry Manilow songs until they confess.
It jogged a memory for me that reminded me that I am proudly my Father’s daughter. Morgan is Dan Harrington’s daughter.
Maybe someone, somewhere, has just not approached that perspective.
In response to the MAN-i-low dis-
Blink prefacing below to say: yes, off topic, and yes, I am on cold meds, but y’all went after the “MAN ilow”. < ?xml:namespace prefix ="" o />
Barry holds a special place in the heart of my family. When I was a kid I used to play dress up with my Mom’s clothes. If a pair of her way-too-big-for-me heels was “done”, she would let me cut off the ankle straps and dance around in them as slides.
One afternoon, when I should have been doing my homework, I was blaring Copa Cabana in my Parents study dressed like a thriftshop showgirl and when ” Who could ask for more…at the Copa” part came on, I kicked like a 12 year old Rockette and launched my “slide/RPG” into the ceiling.
There it stayed.
I threw everything I could find at that shoe to dislodge it. Nothing.
Except for the new marks on the scalloped ceiling.
Later, when unbeknownst to me, my Dad was reading his 12 daily newspapers in the study, I thought I might try another idea.
I jumped as hard as I could at the spot upstairs above where the slutslipper was lodged.
It worked on the 3rd try.
How do I know?
I heard a “S o n o f a …..” , then something that sounded like a combination of my first and middle names with a swear word interjected that was rising in tone and volume, and now coming my way.
As I hit the hallway to head to the other direction or squeeze myself unnaturally under something, there He was
My Dad, evidence in hand, smiling wryly form ear to ear.
“Yours I presume, young lady,” his forearm outstretched gently with the nail to my coffin in his palm.
I responded .. “What makes you say that?
Could be ketchup or mustards..”
(Lame editors note: do NOT ask, my sisters and I had bathing suits that matched when we were little that were red, yellow and white, respectively, it stuck to this day, I was Mayo)
He replied .. ” Because I know, this weekend, when you fish out your overalls and help me fix the ceiling before your Mother notices, you would rather do that than whatever she comes up with so we can be all done here. The End. ( Blink dad making the wipe hands clean gesture)
She has been talking about repainting the Family room for months, I would LOVE some help with that…”
“Yes Sir.” I muttered with a matching grimace.
“Can I have it back?” I asked.
“I would say your dancing days are on hold, dear daughter, for the foreseeable future, as are your TV privliges.”
“Anything else? ” I asked.
“Why yes, there is. If you choose to dance through the house with wreckless abandon, next time, do it when your homework is finished and in your tennis shoes. And can you please try to be more like your Mother and less like me?”
“Doubtfull Deets, doubtful.”
With that carefully measured tween rhetort I skipped down the hall, crisis averted and I am still Dad’s fave.
I can live with the painting. Wonder if I can pick the color??
I chose to share this very personal exchange with my Daddy because it dawned on me that maybe someone that reads this does not understand what Morgan’ s Father (and family, but this reference is strictly male) needs from them.
He was her protector. He is her ceiling fixer.
You have to give him back what you took so he can fix it for her and their family.
He does not care who you are or what you may have done.
You can do this for them now. Have faith that anything can be fixed. Anything.
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Are y’all posting elsewhere?
Blink is on location with limited access, fyi.
B
Blink and Skyler: Good evening! let me get right to it. i could not help it but go back over videos that were posted and if we all can agree that this is Morgan then may i ask the question…does she look irrational? maybe the guy does behind her, fist pumping, i mean the tall lanky one.
also, the guy next to him, with the baseball cap backward, well, is that dan c., the designated driver of the night? he has his cap on backward in a lot of his photos. a baseball thing to do.
i wonder if he knows the “fist pumper?” AND why does the “fist pumper” put both arm up in the air and look to be pointing down at the blonde girl, that we are saying is Morgan. i do know that the “lead screamer, i mean, singer states something to the effect…”put your hands in the air???????????” mr. fist pumper is pointing her out as in “this is one to take back stage.” mr. fist pumper looks to have on some sort of red-sleeved shirt on under a black short-sleeved one.
WHO IS THIS? i have watched these videos a dozen times and yet never could see clearly but now this shows how computer-illiterate i am, i am now stopping and starting by hitting by pause button a million times! i’m ridiculous! trust me when i tell you, i have the worlds oldest and suckest computers! someone must be able to do better! LE. i know that it is hard to see but does he look fimiliar to anyone? and does that indeed look like dan c? that would put dan inside the arena with the girls.
Comment by skyler — December 4, 2009 @ 11:23 am
“>>Lamb of God Video. Wait til the person zooms in. Check on bottom left of screen like four people in front of the middle bodyguard whos standing by some black travelling cases. Theres a blond girl with long wavy hair and black short sleeved shirt. Can be seen clearly near the 1:06 mark. SHes standing by a guy with what looks like a grayish baseball cap. They r right on top of the red lit crowd in the white lit crowd area. Shes also 2nd from the bottom left edge of frame a bit later right on top of a guy jumping up and down.”
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=64320471&searchid=5f78872c-443d-45f2-828e-c8ff4261fef8l
Its not Dee cause the girls hair is really long. <<
Skyler, at 33, 34, seconds it appears she turns profile. I do believe this is Morgan as it pans right, and I could see Dee S. She cant be at 2 places at once. There is also another long haired blonde nearby, prob AMY.
B
I warned everyone that I was going to start back at the beginning. All these kids know something and someWHO. May not know for sure but they know. I apologize in advance, for this but I am not going to believe that this girl just “Vanished”. Her friends may not know the how, where, when or why but I firmly believe they might know of the who! I hope that they shared this, by now, with LE. Maybe the did not know his name but could ID. Then and only then, I may give them a break on their decisions after Morgan has “Vanished”. I hope that all are seeking therapy. No flipness or sarcasim here, I truly hope that they have happy futures. This will shape the rest of their lives. They have no idea, yet but it will. I deep down wish the best for them all but especially Morgan!
Now after all this, Blink are you still believing that this is Morgan or no? If not, then I will shut up for the night! Thank you.
Blink is on location with limited access, fyi.
B
Just read above!
With God’s speed, Blink!
#1602 fish,what i have always found interseting in the video is the guy who goes up and and leans over and talks to stage security in the last sec of the video.this time he looked like he’s waring a cap,i cant tell who or where he comes fRom ,anyone? but yea ,it is rock lore they have someone scour the audience for chicks to invite to the after party
Interesting HFMH facebook wall tonight.
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?v=wall&gid=162224546575
oh i see now ,he right there in the front and just leans over to say something,am i looking in the right spot the gray baseball hat seems right side to me .
Well,well-look who just posted on HFMH tonight.
IMO, this post is a little too over the top, considering he NEVER posts.
Wayne Townsend- Morgan is the last thing on my mind before I sleep and the first thing on my mind when I wake. I wake up every morning and the first thing I do is check to see if Morgan’s been found. Her and I are complete strangers yet I feel as if we’ve known each other our entire lives. Just as if my own son, family, or my close fr…iends went missing I would give my only wish that they could return home safely to their family. From what I’ve seen of the Harrington’s and Morgan’s friend she was truly a diamond in the rough that no one can replace. However, with over 33,000 friends and even more around the world, I don’t see anything as being impossible anymore. To Morgan, Dan, Gil and all those who knew and love Morgan, with this much love and power from all these hearts, I feel deep down that Morgan will return to you all.See More
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Hello all, anyone hear yet of one single person who claims to have seen Amy or Sarah at the concert?
TIA
C
Glad everything is okay Blink. We were worried about you!
>>“lead screamer, i mean, singer states something to the effect…”
Fish, you got it right the first time !
Funny you should mention the fist pumping action — because I asked my kid that question last night. On the “One” (name of scream — er, song) video from Metallica, I thought I recognized him and was asking him if that was the side of the stage he (my son) was on. I told him there was a kid pumping his arm in the air — was that you ? (they were all doing it, though) — he said he did it thru every scream — er, song — and it’s why I believed Dee when she said they were all exhausted and went home and went to bed —
I do think that is Morgan in that video — Morgan’s hair is really really long — and you’re right; Dee is off to the right in the video; she can’t be in 2 places at once — good observation as to whether or not that is Dan — there is video software on this computer, but I have zero idea how to use it — Dan is really tall, so that’s one way we can maybe ID the person.
To address another post — I know we dissect people on this site — I know I’m guilty of it — but they are suspicious because of their silence — Originally Sara Snead was an admin on a facebook Morgan site — she didn’t post anything about her interactions w/ Morgan on that day and after a few days, she was gone completely. How hard is it to make a statement — on a site where you are an admin — to the effect: I know you have questions about my interaction with Morgan that night; however, since this is an ongoing open investigation I am unable to address those issues. Please respect this.
The same w/ anybody else. If my name were linked to a missing person case where LE has said: we believe she is the victim of foul play — I’d be giving a second by second playback of my actions that night. Not necessarily here, but somewhere.
My son’s first day of kindergarten he rode the school bus — he was thrilled, I was a wreck — they wanted the children to ride the bus because there were helpers the first two weeks and they wanted to teach them “how” to ride the bus and how to find their classrooms. This bully 2nd grader who lived up the street socked him for sitting in “his” seat.
I am tall, and the next morning it was raining, and I had this huge golf umbrella — I grabbed that little kid by the backpack and towered over him and looked him square in the eye and told him if he ever touched my kid again I’d feed his intestines to my dog for lunch !
I don’t know how Gil and Dan don’t do that with all the players involved.
I don’t know if the Harringtons’ statements reflect private information which they and LE are only privy to at this point, or whether it’s easier to believe she is alive, being held captive than other alternatives.
I don’t think SGM is involved in this. I think he was aware of Morgan, and he may have some anger issues, but I don’t think he is involved. I don’t think the BB players are involved. I don’t think 44 y/o kicker (if Morgan is the kickee) is involved. He called his g/f because that’s what people do w/ cell phones. I see men in the grocery store all the time on their cell phones and “what was it you wanted” coming out of their mouths.
I hope hope hope hope beyond hope that the EMT guy is just a person who wants to help — but for the life of me, I cannot fathom why he would have left the Metallica concert — Metallica had not been in that area for over 8 years — the last thing they said was what a great audience they’d been — used the “f” word a LOT, and I don’t mean “fine” — and said they’d have to come back sooner and the place exploded — I heard it in the parking lot and later asked my kid what had happened and have seen a video of that “magic moment”
so why oh why does a professed metal head leave a long-awaited concert that he paid close to $100 to attend ? You can catch LOG in and around Richmond throughout the year.
Too many questions and the only answer we know is: Morgan is missing.
And Suz, as I watched a raven gliding through the blue country sky, I thought of Mr. Poe and wished him well. I’ve always believed his admirer was a female, and perhaps she has joined him on the other side of the veil, to trod upon this earth …. (you know it’s coming)
…. nevermore !
Love and God’s blessings to you all dear people –
Sky
PS: Blink, hope to goodness you are somewhere wonderful taking a much-needed vacation ! (but I have to admit, I was having Blink w/drawal in a big way : )
Blink is on location for a separate case, not on vacation. Although she probably wishes she was.
B
OMG !!! Seriously — I clicked on the link in Fish’s post above to watch that video again — then the video stopped and other thumbprints — or whatever they’re called — of other videos scrolled across the page —
this is one of the headings — it says it was addred Feb of ’07 — and it’s some kids talking — but can this be coincidence ? I’m freaking out — seriously –
this is the caption on the video: morgan dana and maggie don’t mix well
click on the link
I too thought my computer was broken. I missed you guys. I miss you too, Blink. Glad to know your site is not broken. Hurry Home.
Blink says she misses all of you. She is not back on a regular basis until Sunday. She asked me to tell everyone if anyone wants any posts to remain private, to head them with “Do not Post” and that she will not see them until then.
OK — don’t mean to beat the horse here, but I went on youtube to see if I could get a better video of LOG’s Redneck —
someone posted a comment that if anyone has videos turn them into LE for Morgan — the last poster states:
coolestpyro (1 month ago) best show i ever been to!i never heard of gojira but know i f***in love them.and about morgan harrington, my friend is pretty sure she saw here at a local bar here in cville,so people should scope out all the bars here.
Here is the youtube link — the LOG song is Redneck — but I decided to ck out others to see if I could grab a better view — now, w/ LOG the drums are at the end of the stage — “Morgan” is on the side of the stage that would be to the right of the drum set — it’s hard to acclimate yourself — go to the far end of the stage opposite the drums, but to the drummer’s right — about four people in, there’s a security person there — she’s a couple of people in from that body guard — not right up against him — and remember, her hair is super long — and for Lord’s sake turn down or mute your volumn — if you don’t, don’t say I didn’t warn you ! : ) — this is Gojira playing — haven’t watched the video yet, but read that comment and freaked a little more —
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o61C79BLyIE&feature=related
sorry about the multiple posts, Blink — but here we go —
Fish — and others — this is a much much better and closer video shot — where all 3 band members are standing at the beginning is the side Morgan is on — pause the video at about 1:06 and get acclimated — the lights are blue, but this is just to orient yourself where to look — start at the far right edge of the stage and work your way over — you’ll see the large security guard in a black t-shirt — Morgan is a few heads to the left of that guy — around this time the girl tilts her head to the left a little like she’s talking to the person beside her —
it breaks my heart to see this — why didn’t she just stay inside ???
warning: there is the “F” word — I’m going to become a metal head singer — it looks like the qualifications are just flinging your hair around and screaming the “F” word as loud and as often as you can … ugh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YliWr2e5ufE&feature=related
again, sorry —
at 2:31 on that link, a girl in a red shirt raises her right arm in the air — I believe that Morgan is the girl w/ the long blonde hair to her immediate right — remember, morgan is tall …
now, there’s a comment that they believe the person in the “pit” way over to the right is Morgan at around 3:06 — I do not think that’s Morgan — you really have to pause the video a lot, but if you look closely, I really think that’s our girl –
I can’t find the exact quote now, but do you think Dr. Harrington was alluding that the perp was there Oct 17th and again in November because he took part in the search? If so then they would definitely have a POI or at least Dr. Harrington has one in mind…
Comment by Judi — January 19, 2010 @ 1:21 pm
I would think that unless Morgan is being held captive, if this was a stranger, then she would have been found by now. Some stranger who picked some girl up and raped and killed her would not hide the body to this extent, she would have been left where ever and the perp woud have done it as quikly as possible. But, it’s been three months, Morgan has not been found, which, in my opinion, means someone has taken great care to conceal her OR she is being held against her will.
Or they aren’t looking in the right place. B posdted much earlier on that she thought Morgan would be found closer to Gil & Dan as a “HA” not as in funny but look how I can hurt you. The answer may be in C’ville, but she is not.
Okay mouse, I’m listening too-
Admittedly, I wasn’t before. You lost me at horse Basta!- and kidneys. Yes, I googled it, even putting the ! point. But..no dice- err..dots. So yeah, I honestly don’t think that Blink has ever come out and confirmed OYE’s identity.
Please continue. If what you’re so gracefully alluding to is correct, I am in awe and I owe you an apology. Brilliant.
I wish we knew why Granny’s account was “discredited.” Long ago, I wrote to the editor and author of The Hook article that made that statement, but they never wrote me back. Someone with more wherewithal might want to call ‘em and ask, just so we’ll know what the story is with that.
I have repeatedly emailed Nancy Grace and asked her to cover Morgan’s case as it is in danger of falling out of the public eye. I don’t know why she’s not on this.
There answers are right in front of us, I am sure of it. Seeing the Harrington family in this much pain, as a fellow parent who knows that immense love that a parent feels for their child, I just feel so much for them. For their sake and Morgan’s, please let Morgan be found.
Great question Roageo. You had asked: “If an adult who had no ill intent happened upon Morgan the night of the concert, offered her a ride, and she passed out/died from alcohol poisoning, then for what reason would they have for not taking her to the ER and/or not reporting it?”
Possibly this person feels that he/she has too much to lose by reporting it. In other words, maybe this person truly had no ill intent but was:
a) somewhere they should not have been that evening (married, on parole, etc..)
b) someone with a previous police record who feels they would be unduly accused
c) someone well-know publicly whose career would be jeopardized (think Chappaquiddick)
d) someone who had drugs in the car or offered Morgan drugs
Bottom line—they fear they have too much to lose—even if they are not directly responsible for whatever fate befell Morgan.
I also do not think it would necessarily take an exceptionally careful perpetrator to hide evidence (or a body) in the surrounding Cville area. With thousands of acres of undeveloped land, even an unexperienced—for lack of a better word—perpetrator would have their choice of hiding spots.
That tells me that LE has a huge challenge and that our best hope in finding Morgan is for the perpetrator to “crack” under pressure. I believe that *if* he is an unseasoned perp then this will happen sooner rather than later. From LE’s actions (not warning the public of a predator, advising the public to be on the look-out for changed behavior) it looks like they might be putting a lot of weight on the “unseasoned perp” profile also.
Hi All:
I am glad there isn’t a clitch in the site…….thanks for letting us all know!
Good luck blink on your other cases.
Candice: Are you of the theory that perhaps Morgan never even made it to the concert? Very good point in your question posted above if anyone had confirmed seeing Amy or Sarah at the concert. I do not think I have ever heard any confirmations about anyone seeing any of the friends, or the friends movements during the concert. The only confirmed person to say he saw the the “group” and actually spoke with Morgan was in the parking lot when they first arrived at the concert.
This theory has never really been discussed in any detail here. Would you like to expand on that?
Mosiac: Great post. Totally makes sense as to why someone would NOT turn themselves in.
Skyler and Fish: Way to dig on the vids. I do not know how to enlarge still from a video. May be worth a try if you guys are computer saavy to enlarge it to get a closer look.
Have a great day all, I need to get to work.
Momof3:
Roxy posted again on the previous thread on Jan 9th I believe after we had all come over here: I can post if you cannot find it. What is your take? Check it out and let me know what you think, if you think it means anything. Could be nothing. I find it interesting she posted there, and not here on the live thread.
If this is what you were referring to wpgmouse I am intrigued…If not I’m still intrigued… and check these pages out.
Since google didn’t help you guys find it- try yahoo
type basta horse- last two on the page. This will be the exact same pages that came up for me at google when I took wpgmouse’s suggestion and checked out horse basta!
To the other moderators, Thank you for helping out.
skyler: have been going over and over the newest video you gave us. we definitely can rule out the girl far over to the right at 3:07. this is dee with her group. i would love to know though, who the guy is in the white t-shirt that comes up to the guy standing next to dee is and where he went. did he stay in the arena? he says something and then walks away. the other guy is looking down at his phone the whole time. can we say phone records? oh well what do i know.
after looking at these videos last night, i got to thinkin” that maybe none of these blondes are Morgan. right near mr. fist pumper, there are a few! maybe Morgan is still outside. i know that 4 tickets were scanned, per Blink, but how do we know she used one. we are all relyin on what the friends and acquaintances said. this is not proof positive until under oath!! or give me a video that CLEARLY shows Morgan!! did Morgan even make it into the arena? i know that someone said they saw a blonde fall. there are lots of blondes in this area of this video alone. does anyone else have a different angle of this side of stage?
also sky, i saw the morgan dana and maggie think too. is this maggie herrick? i am going back to it.
mpg: i would have to add an “RD” onto the end of that word!!!!
“Enough is Enough”, to whom ever took Morgan!!! we are starting over and are putting more pressure on you!! i know this for sure!!
Mosaic and Roageo, IMO the easiest scenario’s to grasp are Morgan was in a car or at a party and died from perceived overdose (drugs,alcohol,fall) the people with her,were as Mosaic so aptly pointed out, either too scared of possible arrest, or ruining their life, that it was easier to get rid of the evidence then go through the hassle, and bad publicity that would follow them for a # of years,if cleared of ANY wrong doing or they were afraid because they supplied her,and joined her in partaking of? that they were sure if they reported her death they would have to face some charges.
I still have not come to terms with so much….
Why keep Morgan’s possible drinking a secret till way later? Why let Morgan’s parents, LE, and the public assume Morgan didn’t have her car there? Why keep the driver of the car a secret? Why keep your mutual friends, who came out as witnesses a secret? Why keep Morgan’s whereabouts and activities before the concert a secret? Why keep the texts a secret, they must have said something of consequence in the texts , something that would point us to what Morgan’s state of mind, and possible destination were, right?
sky: just looked at video. just some kids at school, goofin’ around.
suz –
Perhaps a homeless person walking up 7th Street in Philadelphia during the wee hours of Jan. 19 stumbled – in puzzled delight – across a half-bottle of cognac and some wilted roses…
(Philly. Is. Bringing. Poe. Back.)
Great quote yesterday in honor of the occassion, btw. And thusly, I offer a belated tit-for-Poe-birthday-tat (that may be relevant here on this very site, as I felt your find was):
“Experience has shown, and a true philosophy will always show, that a vast, perhaps the larger portion of the truth arises from the seemingly irrelevant.”
As to your question (#1619):
“I wish we knew why Granny’s account was “discredited. …”
I have no confirmation of this, but I am under the impression that one of the members of the “couple” Granny saw arguing in the lot alerted The HooK that it was them, and not MH, the geriatric witness saw tussling.
I believe OYE is not C. I believe this because Oye wrote, IMO as someone a little older than Morgan, and she clearly took pride in still being “in” enough to understand the workings of a 18-21 year old mind…. Blink said OYE was in the pic and something Blink wrote in response to her,leads me to believe it is not C :**
-OYE said,just a question, but is anybody on this site under 30 or have kids 18-20?
B response:
*What’s YOUR status OYE?*
Is that a real question?
Directing NO other person to answer this, as this is clearly NOT a constructive question in Morgan’s case, I will: I am over 30, and I have no children in that age range.-
I believe Blink was telling her, Hey, I know you are over 21 and your MS status is (at the time of writing) 241, so aren’t you supposed to care for Morgan?
I do not know for certain though. These are just my thoughts on her identity.
As to Gil’s connect the dots and Oye’s connect the dot’s , very strange. But not sure if it actually means something, We know Dr. Harrington posted here. Did he read our posts, Blinks articles? If he did, did Gil? Perhaps our writing so much about Oye’s musing’s affected her, and she is working through it, like we all have.,and Oye’s statement “connect the dots” struck a cord with Gil? Still thinking, not sure….
Since Blink’s sight has been quiet, I’ve been reading a little at findmorgan and websleuth…only the newest posts, and it seems we’re all frustrated and going in circles. I don’t know how far to go up-thread to find PM1′s last post, but I seem to remember her saying that LE (and even parents) made a big mistake in not giving the public more information right from the start. They wanted our help but kept us blind. It would have been helpful to know more about Morgan, more about this middle school era group of 9, more about her current friends, behavior, interests, etc. It would have been helpful to know everything about the 17th, what the plans were, when they left, how many cars, who drove with whom, and where they went before the concert. A photo of Morgan and her friends at the concert, how they were dressed, how smashed they were. There are so many things that could have jogged the memory of someone who was actually there that night. Now it’s too late to ask for our help. Many of the concert goers left town before the news even came out that Morgan was missing. Who are they now asking to watch for changed behaviors in someone who may have gone to the concert? Locals? Out of towners? Do they believe Morgan is hidden in the Charlottesville/Albemarle area and that a local is responsible? Why a local? I’m not necessarily disagreeing, just wondering why they might think this when they don’t appear to have anything to go on.
If they are basing this on some hidden facts and theories, fine, but let me know if I need to keep my children home at all times, and please warn the UVa community. And with all due respect, this would need to come from LE, not from Dr. Harrington.
Skyler and Fish…that LOG video might be the closest we’re going to get to having a photo of Morgan that night. Hope they’ve checked out everyone who was standing around her.
>>Blink is on location for a separate case, not on vacation. Although she probably wishes she was.
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ROTFDL — I read Blink’s response and I said out loud: Go get ‘em, Blink –
And here charges my dog into the room — ready to “go get ‘em”
Good luck, Blink, in all you’re doing !!!
“From what I’ve seen of the Harrington’s and Morgan’s friend she was truly a diamond in the rough that no one can replace.”
doesn’t he mean to put an “S” on the end of friend? we all make spelling errors. i think he is trying to be very heart-felt for which i commend him but what does the quote mean?
“A diamond in the rough”?
i do not consider the Harrington’s or even her friends, for that matter, to be “the rough”! i now that he must feel like he is under pressure but sometimes the best thing to do is to contact VSP! he obviously thinks he saw Morgan that night maybe he remembers something else. i hope he has said all he knows. go on with his life and do good things. btw, i think that he should leave the horrorcore for someone else. you always can find another release for your life stressers!
mosaic,unseasoned perp, i was trying to come up w/a word description,i was gonna say first timer.i do believe,dr. harrington is saying this was no accidental overdose, or accidental death while in the company of “friendly people” who reacted in fear ,this is the result of a PREDATOR,seasoned or unseasoned.
This is the response i received from Wayne Townsend when i asked him why he left the Metallica concert early and if he was the only MALE who left the arena in his car………
Wayne Townsend January 20 at 2:32pm
Hi Liam,
I’m not sure where you heard this however I remained at the concert throughout the entire show. I started the group due to the fact that I’m 99% positive I ran into Morgan that night, and you know couldn’t just sit around and do nothing when I found out she was missing.
OH MY GOD !!!!
All caps meant — I don’t watch the news and turned it on at noon to see about the weather — someone in Appomattox — w/in an hour of C-ville —
shot and killed 8 people last night — I believe they are family members — also he shot down a VSP helicopter — they said; they said they were sending pictures later —
the guy hid in the woods overnight — they were getting ready to do an inch by inch heavy search, but he surrendered —
there is no further information as to who was killed or why —
What in the world is going on ? This is the biggest shooting event in Va., with the exception of the horrible shooting at VT.
Appomattox is a rural country town about 2500 people — its claim to fame is where the surrender of Lee to Grant took place —
I’m speechless (as much as * I * can be speechless —
Is this what Dr. Harrington was referring to ?
Fish, good catch — I didn’t think about the term “diamond in the rough”
what DOES that mean ? in the “trade” it means before the stone is cut and polishsed, etc. — it’s a term usually referred to colloquially maybe to a house that needs some paint or something — but to a human being ?
Morgan was educated, dedicated to helping others, comes from a good family — what needs to be “polished”
Hopefully he meant no harm –
Just wanted to quickly point out that I didn’t mean to diss Dr. Harrington and his advice that we’re not safe here in C’ville/Albemarle, but I believe he is speaking mostly from emotion. If someone is going to tell me that we’re not safe here, then I want LE to man-up, stand at the microphone, and be clear about it. They have said nothing to this effect, so I’ll continue to believe that the perp is not here, nor is he from here. Unless they know exactly who it is and already have a very close eye on him. If this is the case, it’s time to make him sweat.
I think I’ve repeated myself about a hundred times. Apologies to all!
who is maggie voth,uva,hh witness?is she still 100% sure it was morgan?100% sure she was hh?and where?on bridge or corner of copely/ivy?
I hope, I am not hogging the board or talking only to myself(board isn’t refreshing and I can’t see others postings yet)
If I am hogging the board I apologize, and hope you guys reading don’t mind too much…..
Candice Bond, Hello, No,I have never heard/read anyone confirmed seeing SS or AM at the concert. Dave and Dee never mentioned names. Dan the mutual friend was never named. Dave only referred to Morgan by name- it was definitely Morgan, I am 1oo% sure, after concert definitely car sans Morgan. Spoke of cousin, brother, friend (never mentioned male or female)…. their party our party… SS commented on FB video of Dee, Dee answered back.
SS mentioned Morgan, said (i believe) 3 PASSSENGERS in car 2 on ride back plus unnamed not mentioned driver….our party their party referred to mutual friend knowing Dee or/and her boyfriend. Dee spoke of herself,boyfriend and 3 other males….our party their party Oye mentioned SS by name and Morgan mentioned 2 males 18-20 plus friends, their party…
Reposted by others on previous threads:
FB about 1st Dee video-
Sarah Snead (Northside High) wrote
at 3:36pm on October 26th, 2009
Those pictures are of a boy and girl that go to JMU…i actually know them through a mutual friend and am 100% positive that that is not morgan. She has longer hair, her shirt was not cut off, and she had on hose. That video was brought to my attention last night but i am sure that is not morgan. Keep up the good work though.
Dee Spolarics (JMU) wrote
at 3:52pm on October 26th, 2009
Just to confirm, those picture are of me and my boyfriend, they are not Morgan, just as Sarah has said
“Spolarics, her boyfriend and three other guys went to the concert and say it was a great crowd. Afterward, they tried to meet up with friends, seated in another part of the arena. Those friends were mutual friends of Spolarics and Morgan Harrington.(? by me, Mom of3notice tried to meet up with mutual friendSSSS who Dan and? Dave? who?)
“We call and [our friend] is like, ‘We’re actually missing somebody,’ one of the people she was with, and they’re like, ‘We don’t know what happened to her. She said she was getting a ride home, so we guess she’s fine,’ but so we’re like OK, we didn’t think anything of it and they went home,” says Spolarics.”
http://www.whsv.com/news/headlines/66764102.html
Dave Gardner says>
News7 Talked With Concert-goer Who Talked To Morgan Harrington Before She Disappeared http://www.wdbj7.com/Global/story.asp?S=11369010
Excerpts:
One U.Va graduate who was the concert tells News 7 he remembers seeing Morgan before the concert in the parking lot.
“It was definitely her, I’m 100 percent certain of that,” says Dave Gardner.
“She pulled up with her party and got out of her parties car and kind of immediately engaged me and my brother and my cousin and my friend who were at the concert,” says Gardner.
“They weren’t really tailgating. There was no evidence of drinking.”
Gardner says Harrington only spoke to his group for a few minutes before heading toward the arena, but he says he remembers seeing the car after the concert without Morgan.
“There were definitely just three people in the car.”
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Facebook post from Dave Gardner:
Dave Gardner: i don’t know morgan but parked next to her at the concert and spoke with her before going in. i did not see her afterwards but did notice the car she came in with the others waiting on her as we left. i called the police but not sure my knowledge adds anything, except keeping her in my thoughts/prayers. October 20, 2009 at 10:12pm
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?v=feed&story_fbid=163357216575&gid=162224546575
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FB comments by Dee on PEOPLE she KNOWS partying on Halloween and her movements at concert.
Post #34
Heidi Martin wrote4 hours ago
We all care about Morgan very deeply by now; both those that know her in person and those that only know her through this site. Are there any of us that have not had moments of joy/ happiness since October 17th? I see these pictures also say “21st birthdays”. Has anyone else not celebrated a birthday, anniversary, birth of a child?
Has anyone else not ever become so stressed out that you’ve needed to just “break loose”?
Do we have such little faith in our LE officials that we really believe the friends weren’t among the FIRST to be looked at? We all have our parts of what we can do as far as helping the investigation, but please don’t let that blind you to think LE isn’t also doing their part. LE officials are caring human beings as well, with families of their own, of course they care enough & are professional enough to do their jobs thoroughly.
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Jenni Owens Gallagher wrote3 hours ago
I agree with your statement about LE, Heidi, and never thought the friends were involved in her disappearance. I just think that maybe they’re not the “great friends” that they’ve been described as. I think that perception comes from not only the pics, but also the circumstances surrounding her disappearance (letting Morgan leave alone, allowing her to “find her own way home” instead of leaving the concert, etc.), and the absence of statements made by the friends. Sure, even those who are grieving have moments of joy, but to actively dress up in costumes and party two weeks after?? That seems extremely callous. I guess I am so bothered by it not b/c I think it implicates guilt, but b/c I think it shows a HUGE lack of respect for Morgan and her family.
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Post #36
Megan Nichols wrote3 hours ago
Let me just say this, I don’t think the friends had any involvement with Morgan’s dissapearance. What these pictures tell me, however is that they weren’t that close to Morgan in the first place. As someone on Blink’s site pointed out she transferred schools senior year. Maybe there was some animosity? I believe there is a lot more to this story. I am not sure these girls feel the weight of what has happened. Maybe Morgan has a tendancy to walk on the wild side of life-she seems to have friends of all walks of life. She seems to be very accepting. Maybe her friends aren’t that upset because they felt this was bound to happen in one way or another.
And as Charles pointed out, they posted these pics all over FB. It is like they don’t care who sees them. Everyone keeps saying that their character is in question. That they are taking the heat. People are making wrong assumptions of these girls. Well, then be smart about your actions. Pics like these on FB don’t help your reputation.
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Post #37
Jenni Owens Gallagher wrote3 hours ago
Just looked at the pics again, and want to add that I see NO trace of grief on these faces. I have an aunt who lost her teenage son last December, and even a year later in her pictures you see the sadness of her loss. Her grief is very visible, even through smiles. All I see on these faces is the carefree joy of adolescence. No trace of their love for Morgan. Forgive me for being so judgmental, I’m just having trouble getting past the fact that they were having such a grand time while their childhood friend was suffering through god-knows-what.
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Post #38
Megan Nichols wrote3 hours ago
I am having trouble getting past them too. Say what you will, but it looks as though these girls are having the time of their life. Dancing, chugging, uncontrolable laughter. Sure, at their age I might get out a little just so that I don’t sit home all day and dwell, but Jenni you are right, this is a lack of respect for the Harrington’s. And people who are drinking to numb the pain don’t do it in these types of social situations dressed up in costumes. If they are using alcohol to numb the pain or deal with it, I believe it would be in isolation. This was a party, and these girls were partying. And all next to a 241 sign. Sad.
Friends are supposed to look out for eachother. Morgan’s dad buys these tickets. They take Morgan’s car. Yet Morgan is left all alone in a parking lot? Like I said, I used to defend, but now there isn’t a doubt in my mind that these girls left her out in that parking lot because they wanted to stay and watch the concert. It seems as though nothing can stop these girls from partying the way they do.
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Post #39
Dee Spolarics (JMU) wrote3 hours ago
I can’t believe you are exploiting them this way. They want to do NOTHING but help, and even during this time they had Morgan’s 2-4-1 all over the place. She is always on their minds, and I am sure Morgan would have wanted them to still be able to let loose and be themselves. These girls feel this strain of losing Morgan harder and more deeply than anybody on here, and they don’t need extra stress with people judging them over a couple of innocent pictures.
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Post #40
Megan Nichols wrote3 hours ago
If they see nothing wrong in their behavior then these pics shouldn’t matter. Right?
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Post #41
Jenni Owens Gallagher wrote2 hours ago
Perhaps Morgan is a bigger person than I, but if I were missing I would NOT want my friends to be partying like everything was just fine two weeks after my disappearance. I would be extremely hurt to know that they could go on finding pleasure in costume parties and getting drunk while I was in danger. If my best friend were missing I would turn this world upside down to find her, and I would expect her to do the same for me.
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Post #42
Megan Nichols wrote2 hours ago
Yes, Jenni. Or i was going to say mabye Morgan wouldn’t want them to continue the party lifestyle. Maybe she would say, it isn’t worth it. Spend time with your loved ones. Bad things can happen.
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Post #43
Dee Spolarics (JMU) wrote2 hours ago
Well this isn’t about what “you” would do. Just let them be, they’ve been through enough.
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Post #44
Missy Allred wrote2 hours ago
I understand that these pictures might be disturbing to some but honestly, HONESTLY…I don’t see anything wrong with these young people having fun. Just because someone they care about went missing, does not mean their lives stop. As sad as the situation is, you SHOULD NOT judge someone until you’ve WALKED a mile in their shoes. You have NO IDEA if they had a toast for Morgan while the party was going on, you have no idea if Morgan’s name came up many times during their evening. You know NOTHING about the “whole picture” of Morgan’s friends and their celebration of a Birthday or Halloween and what went on throughout the event. I don’t know Morgan or any of these other people however, it is not my place to judge them. Remember…JUDGE NOT LEST THEE BE JUDGED!!!
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Post #45
Dee Spolarics (JMU) wrote2 hours ago
Beautifully said Missy.
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Post #46
Megan Nichols wrote2 hours ago
We will agree to disagree then. There is no point in arguing about it.
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Post #47
Missy Allred wroteabout an hour ago
Arguing? Again, you jump to conclusions. There is no argument here, I simply posted a response on this discussion board, NOT to you personally. But please, remember….ugly, vicious rumors and innuendos have ruined many a good persons life. One tragedy should not beget more tragedies by abhorrent gossip.
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Post #48
Lisa Plummer wroteabout an hour ago
I agree Missy.
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Post #49
Megan Nichols wroteabout an hour ago
Ok. There is no point in going back and forth about it. Everyone is entitled to form their own opinions. Correct?
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Post #50
Angela Wickline Jackson wroteabout an hour ago
I am not going to allow myself to fall into an argument so this is the last thing I will say however we have not heard one word from the Morgan look a like Dee Spolarics about wanting Morgan found, no prayers, no interest on the board at all but now suddenly shows up to defend the friends for partying, I just dont understand the way people think
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Post #51
Megan Nichols wroteabout an hour ago
I was thinking the same thing. People have tried desperatley to try and reach out to her just to get some simple questions answered about HER. Not even Morgan…and nothing. About three weeks ago people were desperatley searching though videos and asking if Dee could confirm that the blonde was her. She said nothing, just kept people speculating. Now granted she doesn’t owe anybody anything, but again, why is there such a lack of help from the “friends” end.
I didn’t post this to start arguments. I knew I would get backlash for it. And that’s ok. It is worth people taking a deeper look into this case.
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Post #52
Dee Spolarics (JMU) wroteabout an hour ago
I don’t need to write a comment on a group in order to prove that I care, now you’re just making more issues about something that is nothing. I’ve been following this site a lot but I only comment when I think it is important, such as clearing something up or trying to defend people I know from falling into vicious rumors. The fact that your trying to question my intentions now is absolutely ridiculous and childish. So this is the last thing I say. The only thing I want to do is help, not hurt, and make the best out of the situation we are given. I have wanted to help since the beginning, but that is by focusing on what is important, and not falling into theories of conspiracies and judgment.
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Post #53
Julie K. West Edwards wroteabout an hour ago
Missy, you posted exactly what I was thinking. Good for you. I also agree with Mehmet’s earlier post. Things taken out of context can always be misconstrued. Morgan’s friends have done nothing wrong. The only criminal in this heartbreaking situation is the person who took Morgan and has prevented her from coming home.
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Post #54
Megan Nichols wroteabout an hour ago
Thanks for clearing that up Dee. I understand.
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Post #55
Charlotte Apter wrote59 minutes ago
Dee, I completely understand why u have chosen not to be active on here.Things get totally blown out of proportion here and everyone personalized things like pics of friends, etc.Through no fault of your own you have been mixed up in a horrible tragdey and a lot of focus has shifted from finding Morgan to just name calling, placing blame and the like.Try to keep positive thoughts that Morgan will be found soon.
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Post #56
Dee Spolarics (JMU) wrote58 minutes ago
Thank you I appreciate it. Happy Holidays to all.
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Post #57
Aviva Arehart wrote54 minutes ago
Dee? Could you please answer this ONE question.. PLEASE? Did you happen to fall at the concert and hurt your chin?
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Post #58
Jenni Owens Gallagher wrote50 minutes ago
You’re right Missy, it’s not my place to judge, and I wish I was a big enough person to not do so, but those pics have really gotten under my skin. I simply cannot understand those pics representing the normal actions of someone grieving the disappearance of a friend. Again, I don’t believe they have done anything criminal, I am just bothered by the apparent lack of respect for Morgan and her family and the somberness of the situation.
Is this a generational thing? Do the college-age people on the board feel these pics are not inappropriate? Perhaps I’m just ten years too old to understand…
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Post #59
Jenn Martus wrote43 minutes ago
My two cents.. while I have had my moments of questions and doubts concerning the friends…this is not really one of them. We don’t know Morgan..or her friends..to judge them is unfair. Like so many have said already regarding these pics..maybe this is the way Morgan would have wanted it to be..or maybe this is just how these young women are able to handle what has happened..by just ‘getting away’ so to speak..if only for a night…
And as far as it being disrespectful to the parents? I beg to differ…what I feel is disrespectful is them having to look on these sites and watch the bickering that goes on daily just because people may have different opinions…while thier daughter is missing..and probably deceased..at Christmas…
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Post #60
Aviva Arehart wrote42 minutes ago
I agree with you Jenni. Instead of partying up I would have thought the friends would have passed out flyers. Yes, we all grieve in our own way but to party only after 14 days, like no care in the world? Then us strangers discussing on this forum, doing ground searches, praying, etc., what’s wrong with this picture?
Dee Spolarics (JMU) wrote41 minutes ago
I’m going to write something to try to clear up all misconceptions about me, feel free to use it to clear up things in other places:
I got to the concert early with me and my 4 guy friends, all in black T-shirts, one of them being my boyfriend. We were in General Admission. I stayed there the whole time expect for going to the bathroom a few times. I wore my hair down but put it up at one point because it was hot. I did not fall, I did not get hurt, I was not drinking, there was no conflict, I was just watching a concert. We did not really move around all that much. At the end, I was trying to get picks that they were throwing out like everybody else. My boyfriend and I got one of those big balloons and walked out together with it. We went outside and with the huge crowd of people going outside then we got into our friend’s car and went back to JMU and went to sleep because we were all exhausted. That’s it. I hope that can clear up anybody’s questions.
Now let’s keep in mind what this is really about, MORGAN. Best wishes to all, happy holidays.
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Post #62
Aviva Arehart wrote40 minutes ago
Thank you Dee.
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Post #63
Megan Nichols wrote28 minutes ago
Dee that is awesome. Thank you for your help.
On another note, for those of you who are offended by the pics I have NO PROBLEM deleting my post. Just say the words.
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Post #64
Jenn Martus wrote24 minutes ago
Dee..I am sorry to ask yet another question..but I am thinking back to one of the ’sightings’ near the bridge..where they saw a blonde with 4 guys in black..and assumed it was Morgan. Reading your post and seeing you were with 4 guys in black..was this you they saw possibly?!? And thank you for the Holiday wishes…the same to you and yours.
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Post #65
Dee Spolarics (JMU) wrote9 minutes ago
You know, I’m guessing it was but I cannot say with 100% certainty.
? By me again, How could this be Dee, she says she did not leave the concert…….
Hey where are you Mouse? I’m just gonna post link… Dying to know others take on your possible find, still not sure this is what you were refering to but verrry interesting:
http://www.basta.se/page.asp?show=2
http://www.basta.se/bilder/original/basta_into_theory_and_practise.pdf
Chad soooo glad you are back!Could you copy and paste post?TIA
what do you think of new connect the dots and basta pages?
re: “horse”
I offered Gil’s word Basta!, which yes, on its own, in Spanish means Enough!, and so very, very, rightfully so, but oddly it also has connections to the word “horse”.
From Gil’s writings, I sense that “horse” is connected in some way – - either to the person(s) directly responsible for the disappearance of Morgan or to someone who may have key information.
Connected how, I don’t know. Is it a horse trainer, a horse farm, a riding farm, horse racing, horse track, someone who rides a horse for pleasure or perhaps work (maybe search and rescue, LE, etc.), an equine veteranarian, etc,. Perhaps a horse is related to someone who had an accident or even passed.
Maybe it has something to do with the location of a pre-party.
Maybe something to do with Waynesboro.
I don’t know.
I do find it odd, that in Gil’s latest blog, certain words were actually underlined.
Those emphasized words are:
ripped
severed
amputated
robbed
Both Dr. and Mrs. H. have either spoken or written the word “amputated” multiple times – - Dr. H. spoke in relation to a leg. Perhaps a horse is related to someone who had an accident, illness or even passed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amputation
Again, from wiki, “ripped” has this option (other than the body/builder abs meaning):
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“RiPPED are an alternative rock band from Burlington, Ontario, Canada on Sextant Records/EMI Distribution. The band formed in 1994, and were originally called “Ripped Emotions”.
Their first album was called Bloodshot, produced by Jamie Stewart (The Cult) and Mike Hanson of Glass Tiger. The video for the song “The Haunting” from “Bloodshot”, was used in an independent feature film called “Insight of Evil” by Nigel Hartwell…”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ripped_(band)
The music video “The Haunting” was in 2002.
The Haunting? Is that not also the title of an amateur short video?
“severed”
Severed (aka Severed: Forest of the Dead) is a 2005 zombie suspense horror film directed by Carl Bessai and set in a remote logging community following an incident where a genetic experiment goes wrong.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severed
“robbed”
Could connect in so many ways. Previous (or current) theft charges, a name (Rob, Robert, etc.), I don’t know.
Could I be reading too much into things? Yes, of course. But when I take the “double meaning” route, some of the findings appear to connect to Morgan Harrington.
Again, I am not taking anything away from the expressions of a mother whose daughter is missing.
I do agree, however, a mounting pressure is being put on someone(s) by the Harringtons.
Basta! Enough!
Fish I find two different ways to take the comments. A diamond in the rough. He could be not liking the Harringtons or the friends and saying compared to them..Morgan is a diamond.
Or he could be saying with what the Harringtons and her friends say about Morgan she is one in a million.
I keep putting the word “was” instead of “is”. I hope to remain positive.
Skyler, when I read the short bit you posted about recovering from your accident five years ago, I realized that you are definitely a survivor in every sense of the word. Considering the effects of your accident and your recovery led me to wonder if you might be eligible for job retraining under the Bureau of Vocational Rehabilitation (BVR). Maybe you already know about BVR, but, if not, their office should be listed under VA state gov’t in the blue pages in your phone book. Their counselors are usually very helpful.
The Ohio Bureau of Employment Services told my daughter that because she already has a degree and her job was not directly lost to a foreign company, she is not entitled to any money for school. Of course, the fact that the entire economy of Northeast Ohio has collapsed because of companies moving abroad did not seem to matter. The steel mill in our town closed, was auctioned to a Chinese company, which tore it down, packed it up and shipped it to China!
I always enjoy reading everything you write. I guess that one of the side benefits of your temporary unemployment is that you have more time to post here and spur us onward in our quest to bring Morgan home.
I appreciate everyone who posts to this site, which I refresh multiple times daily. I, too, am hungry for new information. The only thing that makes any sense to me is that LE must have had a POI from the very beginning. If not, I fear they have really blown this case.
Momof3 — I think that Basta theory is interesting — thanks for helping me find it. How did this get introduced into the conversation? And is there any factual connection to Morgan that we know of?
@#1608: really good question, candice; none whom I’ve personally read about having seen them at the concert, but I haven’t read everything out there. I’m still sticking with dave g as the most credible witness, and even so, as time passes, I’ve begun to consider things that first didn’t gel into speculative mold and seemed so unlikely; such as, was Morgan ever at the concert? If there truly are no photos, (via private cameras and surveillance footage), that presents an unanswerable oddity, for me. jmo
Connect the dots—Follow the links—
I am going to come right out and ask—-
Is this an ‘inside’ criminal act that is being covered up by the LE?
I am feeling a little sick right now—-
BASTA = RD
There’s something rotten in Waynesboro…the “Charlottesville area”.
# 1632 Comment by skyler — January 20, 2010 @ 12:02 pm
ROTFDL — I read Blink’s response and I said out loud: Go get ‘em, Blink –
And here charges my dog into the room — ready to “go get ‘em”
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Too funny. What a smart dog.
I also saw the name of that video Morgan Dana and Maggie don’t mix (paraphrasing b/c I’m too lazy to go back and find the correct title) and was shocked. How much of a coincidence is that? REALLY weird. Of the friends, Maggie seems like she has her head on straight — IMHO, just based on things I’ve read.