Morgan Harrington Case: An Appeal To * You Know Who*
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Charlottesville, VA–The disappearance of Morgan Harrington, missing since October 17, 2009 is exhibiting the potential to reach a temperature that is currenlty encompassing the Northeast: VERY COLD.
Through the thousands of posts at blinkoncrime.com and numerous articles covering Morgan, it is clear that frustration in the lack of lead generation and ambiguous statements from the Virginia State Police are causing some to lack conviction Morgan will be found.
In a recent press conference by VSP, LE provided NO NEW information or progress regarding Morgan’s case. In a shift of posture by the Harrington family, Dr. Harrington has begun participating in online chat and sponsored an additional facebook site to help the efforts to find his daughter.
In fact, for the first time in 2.5 months, we know what kind of camera Morgan had with her the evening of the Metallica concert from his research.
In contrast, we have viewed footage and photos of her dear friends that have clearly moved on without the knowledge of their friends plight.
Girls will be girls you say? Before one person comes on here to tell me I am being too critical of these young women you should know that due to a fortunate Facebook update, describing these girls as Morgan’s friends is entirely generous.
Furthermore, if you happen to be one of the parents that has provided booze for underage minors captured on digital for all to see you may wish to take a peek at what is on your daughter’s social sites.
Have you thought about what it would be like to be Gil or Dan while your linin’ it up and throwin’ em back WITH your kids?
Fortunately, this is not the focus today. I do not feel Morgan’s friends did anything to directly cause her fate. They are more “ME” than frienemy, that is evident.
Gil Harrington, posting on the families site findmorgan.com, wrote one of the most eloquent and courageous posts from the Mother of a missing child I have ever read.
The snowfall is beautiful but still disturbing – melancholy. Wonder if Morgan is cold – is snow falling on her face – or is her face covered by leaves in a shallow grave being hidden by the snow. I glance out the window and see the crimson blaze of a cardinal at the bird feeder – my heart leaps for a second at the beauty – then I think its feathers look like blood in the snow. Is that what Morgan’s blood looks like in the snow? See how the pitfalls are everywhere – even at the bird feeder.
In a somewhat angst-ridden moment, a poster on blinkoncrime.com suggested any and all witnesses in this case should be subject to repeated Barry Manilow songs until they confess.
It jogged a memory for me that reminded me that I am proudly my Father’s daughter. Morgan is Dan Harrington’s daughter.
Maybe someone, somewhere, has just not approached that perspective.
In response to the MAN-i-low dis-
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Barry holds a special place in the heart of my family. When I was a kid I used to play dress up with my Mom’s clothes. If a pair of her way-too-big-for-me heels was “done”, she would let me cut off the ankle straps and dance around in them as slides.
One afternoon, when I should have been doing my homework, I was blaring Copa Cabana in my Parents study dressed like a thriftshop showgirl and when ” Who could ask for more…at the Copa” part came on, I kicked like a 12 year old Rockette and launched my “slide/RPG” into the ceiling.
There it stayed.
I threw everything I could find at that shoe to dislodge it. Nothing.
Except for the new marks on the scalloped ceiling.
Later, when unbeknownst to me, my Dad was reading his 12 daily newspapers in the study, I thought I might try another idea.
I jumped as hard as I could at the spot upstairs above where the slutslipper was lodged.
It worked on the 3rd try.
How do I know?
I heard a “S o n o f a …..” , then something that sounded like a combination of my first and middle names with a swear word interjected that was rising in tone and volume, and now coming my way.
As I hit the hallway to head to the other direction or squeeze myself unnaturally under something, there He was
My Dad, evidence in hand, smiling wryly form ear to ear.
“Yours I presume, young lady,” his forearm outstretched gently with the nail to my coffin in his palm.
I responded .. “What makes you say that?
Could be ketchup or mustards..”
(Lame editors note: do NOT ask, my sisters and I had bathing suits that matched when we were little that were red, yellow and white, respectively, it stuck to this day, I was Mayo)
He replied .. ” Because I know, this weekend, when you fish out your overalls and help me fix the ceiling before your Mother notices, you would rather do that than whatever she comes up with so we can be all done here. The End. ( Blink dad making the wipe hands clean gesture)
She has been talking about repainting the Family room for months, I would LOVE some help with that…”
“Yes Sir.” I muttered with a matching grimace.
“Can I have it back?” I asked.
“I would say your dancing days are on hold, dear daughter, for the foreseeable future, as are your TV privliges.”
“Anything else? ” I asked.
“Why yes, there is. If you choose to dance through the house with wreckless abandon, next time, do it when your homework is finished and in your tennis shoes. And can you please try to be more like your Mother and less like me?”
“Doubtfull Deets, doubtful.”
With that carefully measured tween rhetort I skipped down the hall, crisis averted and I am still Dad’s fave.
I can live with the painting. Wonder if I can pick the color??
I chose to share this very personal exchange with my Daddy because it dawned on me that maybe someone that reads this does not understand what Morgan’ s Father (and family, but this reference is strictly male) needs from them.
He was her protector. He is her ceiling fixer.
You have to give him back what you took so he can fix it for her and their family.
He does not care who you are or what you may have done.
You can do this for them now. Have faith that anything can be fixed. Anything.
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*applications*
Re: sue, 1/22, 10:12am:
She articulated this far better than I:
“The secrecy surrounding this case has nothing to do with liability. It has everything to do with protecting the integrity of the investigation.
There is a lock down on the flow of information in this case. There are reasons for it. We are all impatient out of caring for Morgan. The answers will eventually come.”
Bless you, sue, x 2!
All:
Please read sue’s comments.
And then read them again.
And, against the understandable tide of emotions, understand.
Imo, the only way to prove that concept, is to have an established suspect. I do not expect to privy to it’s identity, but I do not expect to here there is not one in the sights, either.
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BLINK QUOTE “Could he be referring to JT coming back to the team? Is anyone getting that impression?”B
I have had that feeling since the second I read Dr. Harrington’s Word’s here added with the comment he made that he had concern about the BB player’s .
Dakota
Fish — I am not sure that is the best way to encourage someone to post here that may have useful info. He was being asked some questions that would have been very interesting to here answered. Folks jumped on oye also, and she was inviting it with some pretty serious attitude, but, in retrospect, it might have been good to string her posts out a little further too. I hope you wont take this the wrong way.
Thank you for the compliment, Observer. I am not worthy! LOL.
Good post, WpgMouse ie. ‘how to disagree respectfully’. We could all use the reminder.
rabbit19,
You had me at Hello from the first time you posted.
There is something very endearing about you in addition to your smarts.
Cheers and onwards, rabbit19.
Alexandra’s patience admon is a good one.
Blink, some peeps are getting sharp here (and not like our favorite). We will sing more harmoniously if we stay in tune. And on tone.
Time to check the cheese, sip some pinot or a lovely, white rueda (omg) and remember, What Would Blink Do?
I am astonished by the sheer number of people who think because someone likes and films horror movies and listens to heavy music they must somehow be responsible for someone’s disappearance. I guess I thought people were a little more open-minded, but maybe this is a product of me being on the west coast. I filmed a number of short horror movies in college while I was a film major and I continue to listen to all forms of metal. If I were at the concert and I was quoted as seeing her does this make me a suspect? Come on, people. Let’s not reach like this out of frustration.
Comment by rabbit19 — January 22, 2010 @ 12:17 pm
[I was 3 classes ahead of Morgan in HS and am fb friends and acquaintances with one of the people in the OYE picture. I didn’t quite agree with the guess of OYE’s identity, then realize that I in fact don’t know her well enough to say, “oh no, that can’t be her” which made me reevaluate and research. If she is in fact OYE, let’s just say she’s “frontin” on fb and was also shown on the news, at the search. Hope I left enough crumbs.]
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Rabbit: RT at 0:53?
http://www2.wsls.com/sls/news/state_regional/article/new_search_effort_for_morgan_harrington_begins/60473/
Comment by wpgmouse — January 22, 2010 @ 1:04 pm:
[Whether it be at a board room table or on this board, I become dismayed when a contributor swoops in to ridicule another contributor’s comments and perspective.]
As do I, Mouse. Keep on keepin, on. You got skillz, girlfriend.
Wayne,
“One second I was chillin with Marv, next second he was gone.” I would think a person would have a pretty good reason to ditch their best fiend at their favorite concert. Since then, have you asked him where he went?
More importantly, since no one seems to have a single picture of Morgan from that night available for public viewing, can you tell us exactly what she was wearing? Did she seem impaired at the time? Who was with her? What were they wearing, and did any of them have a camera in hand? Do you have any pics of her & her party from that night, or did you see anyone else taking photos of her? See her with a cell phone, camera, purse, or maybe a jacket? Was she drinking? Did you notice anyone following her around? Didn’t you have your $100.00 video camera with you?
I know that’s a lot of facts to try to remember 3 months later, but if you can answer even one, it might be the key.
Not sure what all the hubbub was about your “scary” movies on YouTube. It’s broad daylight.
Thanks for anything you can remember.
*** Wpgmouse —-
Keep tossing the analytical thoughts out here for us, Mouse, so we can continue to sharpen out wits, while, also enjoying your humor.
I appreciate your colorful and intellectual prodding, as do, I believe, most other Blinkites. Your knowledge and experience is apparent and far exceeds mine in this field. You have much to offer!
And, may I compliment you on your online manners?
Ready for more, Mouse!
hey all. y’all sure have been busy and i may have missed any responses to this conundrum as answered by dr. h…”4. Did Morgan actually get to Charlottesville on Oct 17th or did she stay behind in Harrisonburg?
Yes” … well, that makes no sense to me… anyone? blinkettes who think she never made it there, those who think she did?
i am going to throw my theory out there again and just see what bites me back…haha
morgan got to the concert, left to meet someone (i do not believe she was out of her mind, too many le around) maybe dan c., i don;t know, but he is a tall boy and maybe friends w/ the bball players and he has been protected… she then went to a party and wound up on west lawn, where she was spotted early morning after a call for medical assistance had been made. .. keeping in mind that ss and others stated they were going to stay and party at uva…. and, what about dave gardner stating he saw the ‘friends’ after the concert?…. anyway, the emt is called and morgan and party(ies) take off after calling trusted bg to come get them…. something happens, on purpose or not, but to cover up someone goes back to the last public place morgan was thought to be seen and dumps her purse, thus the contents strewn and not together. it’s a no- brainer why the camera can’t be found…
I’m just going to drop this and run (real fast).
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The Cavalier Mascot
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noun
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adjective
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DERIVATIVES
cavalierly |ˈˈkøvəˈlɪ(ə)rli| adverb
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noun ( pl. -ries) [usu. treated as pl. ] historical
soldiers who fought on horseback.
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ORIGIN mid 16th cent.: from French cavallerie, from Italian cavalleria, from cavallo ‘horse,’ from Latin caballus.
UVA? UVA Cavalier(s)? Sabre? Athlete? Student?
Military or military recruiting? 20/20 vision qualifications and lack there of needed to qualify? Pilot, scout, navigator? Applicant has different career choice than hoped for?
Endurance, collateral damage, blind eye, reading glasses, etc.
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verb [ trans. ] (usu. be derailed)
cause (a train or trolley car) to leave its tracks accidentally : a train was derailed after it collided with a herd of cattle.
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DERIVATIVES
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“Chalottesville”
Reference to the prestige of The Lawn?
Student? Professor?
Medical attention needed early am October 18?
Derailing the investigation? UVA or highly connected to, ie. donor?
Turning ones’ back.
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All above are what-ifs, fantasy. No accusations of any kind.
1842 fish, I got a rotten brother who could use a good tounge lashing.Im tempted to give you his email and unleash you on him.Great post.
zarpisimo (#1843) re:
“… If this was corroborated by another witness, why wouldn’t LE just say there was a passing motorist that witnessed her hitchhiking on the bridge at 9:30ish. …”
Yo, z. I believe this *is* actually what LE said, i.e., from a Nov. 13 VSP press release: “Independent witness accounts” have made the police “confident” that MH was hitchhiking for a ride.
I agree, however, that one would think more details could have been gleaned from such witnesses, e.g., did someone see her physically thumb over a car? If so, it’s hard to believe a general description of the vehicle was not provided and subsequently released to the public to draw tips; if not, how can LE be so confident she left the Copeley Road bridge area via hitchhiking?
acho (#1845) re:
“…Back to it. Who was it whose account has her speaking to them for 10 mins and then walking away from them? **Who watched her walk away from the BB players?** Limo driver? Anyone else? Help, please, as I can’t sift through it all at the moment.
Where are all these witnesses? Where is Granny? Where’s the limo driver? Where’s the lady from the Orange Sheetz? Why aren’t they here? Has LE asked them not to talk, and is that the norm?”
acho – just my take, but I believe you may have answered your own questions, to a degree. “Where are all the witnesses?” They’re right there, in the form of MH’s timeline. Limo driver? He submitted/corroborated part of the BB players accounts regarding walking with MH to the RV lot; they corroborated one another’s accounts of leaving the sports complex area at the same time, with MH still in the RV lot, and LE followed up by verifying their alibis for the night; Granny was discredited (in my estimation) when one or both members of the tussling duo Grans saw discreetly corrected The HooK’s “Witnesses” article to the writer/editor by revealing it was them, not MH, seen by the witness. Orange Sheetz was not a credible sighting (per the Rockville magazine feature someone posted a link to here).
Mom3.0 -
Yes, I did watch your video – the one you broke down in timeframes, without which I would have never seen what you saw. It certainly appears that could be her – have we gotten confirmation that it was LOG on-stage? I think someone said it was Metallica, but I don’t think think it looks like them playing (though, I would not recognize LOG). Anyone know?
If it was LOG, it could mean that she left the area near the stage where everyone was dancing/thrashing to head for the bathroom, falling hard along the way in front of the witnesses who helped her up. This, *if* accurate, puts the time around 8 p.m.
As far as “Basta,” I think you meant “*also* Italian,” as it is an expression used in both languages – but there is a much larger Spanish-speaking population in the U.S. than Italian-speaking, and I referred to it as a colloquialism that is not uncommon in los barrios ’round here. I did follow your links to the possible Swedish-rehab connection you pointed out. As, imo, I don’t think Gil was speaking in code – and I don’t want to dare risk offending anyone by sharing my own personal logic – I’ll refrain from saying anything more. But, clever on your part, regardless.
Maybe it’s just me , but if anyone happened to catch Madonna’s performance on HOPE FOR HAITI NOW please tell me you thought the same thing I did , especially the side profile . It stopped me in my tracks as I entered the room and seen the T.V. If you havent seen it FIND it blood hounds .
Peace for Haiti
Dakota
Re: gifter3′s #829 post on Gil’s thoughts = Basketball refs?:
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BLINK QUOTE “Could he be referring to JT coming back to the team? Is anyone getting that impression?”B
Here is where I am now. I now believe Morgan was at the Arena that night. Why because of the eyewitness that knew her. That is all I was waiting for. Now I have it.
Somehow or someway Morgan had some kind of connection to the basketball players. That was an arranged meeting.
Morgan went into the concert. She watched the two opening acts. Kissed her friend goodbye stopped at the ladies room and left.
Basketball practice was over and even in the cold, rainy weather she knew she didn’t have far to walk. Knew she didn’t have far to go.
If she didn’t know him before she knew him from perhaps the pre party they attended when arriving in Charlottesville.
The last person to see Morgan and the place her purse was found.
I have two worries. The video of Morgan in the 7/11 over the bridge that the cab driver spoke of and the purse being left where the person that took Morgan would be linked. I am not sure of the thinking in leaving the purse there? I was thinking that the person that took Morgan and Morgan were in a good way the beginning and they might have stopped for something to drink or cigarettes at the 7/11 over the bridge. Then something went terribly wrong. She wanted to return to the party and he wanted something more.
To all readers:
I can state, to a moral certainty, that UVA has in no way, shape or form, nor by intent, impeded the investigation into the MH disappearance, or the return/recovery of MH to her parents.
I appreciate that it is left up to each person here to believe–or, not believe–the above statement. I likewise respect each individual’s decision in this regard.
My intent, as stated repeatedly, is not defense of UVA. Rather, it is to ground readers in reality and provide some measure of comfort and assurance that everything is being done that can be done, by all entities officially involved in this investigation.
Respectfully submitted,
Observer
Fwiw, I trust Observer.
B
Man, I was away for the day and was having Blink w/drawal — I got my son that fancy phone for Christmas and I kept telling him — pull up the internet so I can ck the site — “I need a memory card ! ” — ugh.
With my child locked in the car with me for the entire day, we talked about Morgan — and the Lord help me — I listened to Metallica !! They did some covers of Bob Seager’s (sp?) turn the page and Lynard Skynard’s Tuesday’s Gone w/ the wind — he has a nice voice when he’s not screaming … : )
But I asked him if he saw any blonde-haired girls in a Pantera shirt — “Only about 30,” He said there were lots of girls there w/ Pantera shirts — I said: Are you sure ? And he replied, he likes Pantera, so he is sure —
so it made me wonder if Blink’s team is right — was she there ? Was it someone else ? But then I thought — Morgan is missing. : (
So then I asked him about LOG — I think it is not in any way related to Morgan’s disappearance, but I was flabbergasted at his answer — LOG are all Va. Tech’s graduates — they formed the band when they were in college. He said LOG are probably still drugging, but that they’re getting older — and he said that during the concert he was glad that one guy didn’t spit on him — ick
Also, the equipment under the tarp in the middle of the stage during LOG was Metallica’s drummer’s drum kit — which was huge — again, makes me wonder where the LOG equipment went ? Is there a tunnel under the parking lot connecting the arena and the Emmett garage ?
I was thinking today — perhaps the person Dr. H was referring to was in prison and then released — no, I don’t think it’s Pickles, who supposedly was under house arrest on the 17th —
And it looks like we’re back to where we’ve always been — No Morgan — no Answers.
Miss Fish — I heart you, girl !! I stand with you. Amazing post.
Miss Blink, I miss you — travel safely back to us.
Miss Momof3 — I love love love J2K’s new name for you Mom.3.0 — your hard work on those videos was amazing — Moreoreless just for background noise, I have Forensic Files on, and there was a case w/ a grainy video, and the police took it to the Secret Service who have some awesome video-enhancing equipment
Observer, I still love your posts, miniscule as they are — it’s good to hear from you — I know you “observe” but please stop in and say hello — we miss you, too.
and adorable, talented J2K — write this book w/ me — I have an awesome idea, but I really don’t know if I can write that book — but I had developed an entire children’s series of books, which I loved, as well — think about it : )
And to all — where, oh where, can Morgan be ?
And a little PS: My doggie is doing well after her trying day — 3 shots, blood work (no heart worms, yeah !) — and a spaying — she is passed out on “her” sofa w/ “her” boy — and yes, I absolutely got lost going to the same vet office I have been going to for at least 7 years.
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TUCKER, JAMIL SAOMARI 09/10/2009 09:00 AM Complied With Law
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TUCKER, JAMIL Plaintiff:
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TUCKER, JAMIL S Plaintiff:
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Albemarle County General District Defendant:
TUCKER, JAMIL S. Plaintiff:
THE RECTOR AND VISITORS OF THE UNIVERSITY OF 06/19/2008 02:00 PM Case Dismissed Warrant In Debt
GC08011748-00 TUCKER, JAMIL S. 10/28/2008 10:30 AM Nolle Prosequi
Court:
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A & B Complainant:
DYER, SHERECE
GC08011748-01 TUCKER, JAMIL S. 12/09/2008 09:30 AM Not Guilty
Court:
Albemarle County General District Charge:
FAIL TO APPEAR Complainant:
BENCH
GV08005152-00 TUCKER, JAMIL S. 06/19/2008 02:00 PM Warrant In Debt
Court:
Albemarle County General District Date Issued:
05/19/2008 Date Returned:
Plaintiff:
THE RECTOR AND VISITORS OF THE UNIVERSITY OF
Maybe this is all there is to Jamil’s story! Does any university just became sick of it all? Thus the parting of ways. Anybody?
By the way, before anyone has a fit…it is all public record available to you on the WWW!
I apologize for my actions in my earlier post. I kept posting and posting and moments later they were gone. I took that as a sign that whoever moderates this site didn’t want them to be included. Not to mention all the people who I spoke with via Facebook and such who I noticed on here only friends me and tried to be nice to me just to get words that seem to have got twisted around and made me look like a bad person. I’m sure a lot of people would have responded the way I did, if not more extreme.
Before I speak anything about the night of the concert and my intentions I’d like to speak directly with Fish.
You asked why I stooped posting on the Facebook group and I’ll answer that one. As many other people out there that found out about Morgan’s case I became very interested in it. Morgan sounded like a great person through the words of her parents and her photos. Many others have also agreed with me about her being an avid music fan and considered “family” within the heavy metal community. As entire communities of “metal heads” are also interested in helping find Morgan and I believe if she where anyone else they wouldn’t give it as much attention as they have. A lot of us do consider ourselves, family, as these shows. It’s the only place you can find your arm around another complete strangers shoulders singing the songs to each other. I ceased my postings as it was starting to create problems with my girlfriend. She did not like that I spent a part of my day looking for news about Morgan online, trying to help with getting her story out there and talking to the people that had joined the group. So in an attempt to spare my own relationship any heartache I stopped posting so the arguing between my girlfriend and me would cease. However, I did continue doing things to help find Morgan that Facebook wouldn’t show. Such as helping a NJ man setup a benefit concert and spent days upon days calling trying to get people to promote the show and get the word out about her, with no recognition to myself. Why you might ask? Because I want to help in anyway possible. You speak about me being a Dad and posting videos on YouTube. The videos I posted on YouTube where created when I was around 16 or 17. Way before I had any intentions on becoming a father and even still very immature. I created the YouTube page as a way to show my friends the videos, and never really thought anyone would say anything about them. I’ve always dreamed about being a director as I love movies and writing. The short film which you reference was created by a buddy of mine and myself during our “we love Werewolves” phase. That is what the film was really about. The movies were made long before I became who I am today and I never saw any need to remove them, as we were all kids once. If anyone has ever seen a horror movie they will note that people like Eli Roth make films about people being kidnapped and tortured, but just because he’s a household name no one thinks that what he is doing is weird. Also it was mentioned about the two jobs I work. Just because I’m an EMT and work with disabled individuals does not mean I can’t have a life where I enjoy playing video games, swearing and having a good time. Just as much as I love helping people I don’t think any of this impedes on my overall life goal of continuing these aspects of my life. May it be a way to relive stress? It just might be but, I’ve never really given it any thought.
I hope that is what you were asking of me and if it’s not please feel free to continue.
Now onto the real reason where here, Morgan. I was not sitting anywhere near Morgan as far as I know. The sections such as 312 are made up so that the seats go from A-Z across and are numbered going upward. So my seat was something like 312 Row 10 Seat J. Morgan could have been actually out of site for me wherever she may have been sitting.
When I strongly believe I saw Morgan I was near the vendor area near my section of seats. If I could find a map of the inside of the area I would gladly show you. While in that area and on my cell phone I noticed a young women who fit Morgan’s description walking not in the vendor area but the main traffic area that would take you right by the vendor area. As I’ve told everyone else she did not look to be injured or in distress. She looked like everyone else that was there that night. I’m not really sure which part of my statements another poster said didn’t calibrate with other statements I made and I’d like to see if someone could point those out to me.
As far as everything else goes, I had initially created the Facebook group as a way to spread the word of Morgan’s story not only through my friends, but their friends as well. Hoping a chain reaction would be created and maybe someone else who also had seen her but not knowing that she disappeared would come forward. Overnight it seemed to been blown into a nationwide group of people concerned for Morgan. Am I glad I created now even with all these things people say about me? Yes. I believe any of you here or interested and concerned for Morgan would have done it eventually as well.
Others would ask how I got on TV and why was I so special that people wanted to talk to me? To answer that question, I have no clue. I think one reason would be the fact that I’m long-time friends with a local anchor here in Charlottesville, and perhaps he noticed the group and it went from there. Mere hours after creating the group I was contacted by Good Morning America, some local news stations and then eventually CNN. GMA called me several times as I do have my number posted on my site which can be seen by anyone thats a friend. After speaking with a fellow a few times on the phone they never decided to follow-up with me. Eventually I got a call from a local station in Richmond who wanted to do a story on how the internet was being used to help find Morgan. And since I was the guy who made the group they asked me to do an interview and I said sure. What if someone else had seen something, but was to afraid to go public and they see that I did and it gives them to courage to also come forward. I never did it out of any right to be “famous” or the such. I was then contacted several upon several times by CNN as at the time I guess I was the only person who thought he had seen Morgan that night. They literally hounded me for an interview. I just want to reiterate to people I never once reached my hand out to these peoples in hopes of being on TV. They came to me. On the flipside of that I did reach out to several other news publications, such as America’s Most Wanted asking them to run a story on Morgan. When I was contacted by news publications it was because they wanted my story, when I reached out it was because I wanted others to hear Morgan’s story. That’s all I’ve been trying to do since that night.
To answer another question by another poster, I never left the arena that night. I worked at the JPJ many years back and knew the policy. I did venture out a few times to get food and drink and even smoke a couple cigarettes in between the bands. However, I remained inside the concert hall during Metallica’s entire set. As it was an experience I didn’t want to miss. At the end of the night as I was separated from my friends in the crowds I waited outside the front gates for them to show. Marvin came out and then my other friend Josh. Marvin walked off to find the other guys and I offered to give Josh a ride home. Not seeing my other friends outside yet we decided to walk back down along 29 to BW3′s where my car was parked. My cell phone was on the entire time I just never heard it go off until I got home and checked my messages.
I hope this post wasn’t to long and answers most peoples questions. I will do what I can to continue in the search for Morgan and do whatever I can in my power to join everyone else in the aid to find her.
My closing comments would be that even though it’s been several months and no one has heard from Morgan, I’d like to continue the hope in my heart that she is found and comes home one day.
Thought I would share an experience that a young woman I know had. A beautiful,sweet, artistic young woman,from a very loving family. At the time this happened she was about 19 or 20 years old. Like Morgan she loved music and loved to go to music festivals. She became friendly with an older man who was a drug dealer,acid,coke,mushrooms,x,you get the drift. Well, he essentially followed the festival scene to deal drugs and party. I am guessing he was in his mid 30′s and he liked pretty young women.Well she went to a music festival hooked up with this man and followed the music scene with him for an entire season.
She was basically high 24/7, she was incapable of making smart decisions,because as soon as she started to come down,another drug was offered. A friend had seen her at a festival and was concerned enough to call her parents and tell them where she was.Her father and her uncle showed up and took her home. It isn’t something she likes to talk about and she is appalled at what she put her parents through,however,she says she really wasn’t in control of her mind or her actions. It is unlikely that this is what happened to Morgan,but you never know???
Dear Blink,
I know what your expectations are from everyone that you have so graciously let participate in “your house” in our collective quest to find Morgan. I have also read Mom3′s reminder about respectfully disagreeing, but I just feel like this also needs to be addressed. Please take the time to go back and re-read the posts’ that Observer referenced. If you do not feel appropriate, feel free to delete.
Observer, I really am so disappointed in your latest post below, and I’m truly saddened that you are “putting your stamp of approval” on the remarks you referenced below.
First of all, I didn’t realize we were playing “A Game of CLUE”…going back and forth-winding through the threads- trying to find and re-read the various posts you listed. But…because I didn’t want to speak out of turn, I did go back and re-read all of them. I wish you could just say what you mean. This isn’t a game to me.
The comments you referenced by J2K, Redly and Fletch have a HARSH, SHARP TONE to them. Fletch, yours borderline on smart alec!
(Asking Mom3 if she expects to find someone in a t-shirt that says BG.) If some of you dont like/agree with the ideas being put out there, then thats perfectly fine. We have to stop and remember though,that we are a “Family” here and those remarks were harsh. They are JABS at the hardworking people that are racking their brains trying to find Morgan! We have so FEW FACTS to actually go on,that we need to continue encouraging everyone to put their ideas out there!
I’m having a hard time understanding why you can criticize any theory Observer, if you aren’t willing to “set the record straight” and tell us what you know.It’s especially unsettling to me, because the only reason that you are able to TEASE, is because you are “PRIVY to INFO” that the general public is not. Otherwise, you would be doing the exact same thing we’re doing…desperately trying to come up with ANYTHING that will help us FIND MORGAN.
Observer, you go on to commend Sue for her comments below. You tell us to read them and then re-read them again, and then understand them. This comes across as very condesending. While what Sue says is true, why do you make this sound like this is another one of your PROFOUND CLUES?
Of course we know there is a lock down on the info. Of course we know they are protecting the investigation. That’s why everyone is so FRUSTRATED!
Sue, you also state that you feel certain of what happened and who is responsible, but you dont want to elaborate. HUH???
I thought the whole idea was to solve this and bring Morgan home.
I would truly love to know your theory, because I’m not fairly certain about anything or anyone!
(Sue says,”I have formed an opinion and feel fairly certain about what happened to her and who is responsible, but choose not to elaborate.
I think so much misinformation and speculation being posted can lead some to confusion.”)
Observer, You know what this FEELS LIKE…. It feels the exact same way we all felt when “the friends” and “LE” refused to talk, and we knew they were holding out on us. It feels like you enjoy “Being in the Know” and just dangling it out there.
I guess what I’m really asking is…If you aren’t going to tell us the end of the story, why are you making a game of it?
Respectfully,
Gifter3
Comment by Observer — January 21, 2010 @ 9:34 pm As alluded to in one of my much earlier posts, one can learn a great deal by mere reading coupled with keen observation. Lurking has its advantages, not the least of which is a new perspective gained from standing far afield the fray. It also helps one to avoid the syndrome of “group think”. I candidly fear that happens far too easily–and therefore far too often.
Just as “group think” is anathema to any investigation, discernment is key to any successful investigation.
Readers are encouraged to concentrate closely on certain postings above, i.e.:
Fletch, 1/21, 12:12am
redly, 1/21, 12:04pm
J2K, 1/21, 12:56pm
Fletch, 1/21, 3:51pm
Fletch, 1/21, 6:07pm
I refer readers to the above posts because they articulate far better than I cautious admonitions to which we should all be attentive.
Finally, to Word Girl, 1/21, 4:53pm: You’re correct: Neither Falstaff nor Hotspur am I. All truths revealed, in time.
Observer#1852
Sue articulated this far better than I:
“The secrecy surrounding this case has nothing to do with liability. It has everything to do with protecting the integrity of the investigation.
There is a lock down on the flow of information in this case. There are reasons for it. We are all impatient out of caring for Morgan. The answers will eventually come.”
Bless you, sue, x 2!
All:
Please read sue’s comments.
And then read them again.
And, against the understandable tide of emotions, understand.
WPG-
GO.
It is me.
B
Wayne, you sure said everything we wanted to hear. Thank you and good luck.
Hi Guys,
Sorry I wasn’t around today. I have alot of catching up to do.
Rabbit19, Thank you for clueing me in. I just want to tell you how glad I am that you are posting here, and how much I appreciate your straightforwardness. I imagine it has been difficult for you on a whole other level.
I have a question, if you can, based on who you think OYE is, do you believe she is/was close enough to hear directly from someone in the know, and she based her whatif’s on actual friends beliefs of what happened that night? Is she a friend of someone that attended the concert that night with Morgan? TIA
Dew, Suz, SCHokie thank you for bringing over Dr. Harrington’s Q&A
4 tickets = MH AM SS DC- LOG VID-If the tall guy talking with curlyhaired guy in Dee’s group is Dan, he wasn’t sitting in 312 section during LOG. He made it to the floor section, without getting kicked-out. Question? If you had a chance to get closer to the stage to see a band you waited for 6mnths to see, would you move closer? “she was separated from her friends at a Metallica concert Saturday”
sue — January 22, 2010 @ 12:48 pm
I found this to be an interesting comment from Dr. Harrington,
“The question has been raised as to why some people who disappear get more attention than other.
I think some cases get attention because a person(s) of interest has been identified and this keeps the major media engaged. In Natalie Holloway’s case, it was in a foreign country, three suspects were under suspicion and the media would not let it go. In Caylee Anthony case, her mother is an interesting suspect and the family dynamics (wow)! ”
I believe that he may be applying pressure to LE to name a person of interest. I also believe that he has hinted at who that person is.-
Very interesting input Sue,especially after your previous comment. Thank you
Rita, thank you for your kindness. I agree, hopefully LE can enhance these videos.
belleboyd, You wrote:
L.O.G is releasing a 2 DVD collection, 5 hours of footage, from concerts, backstage, and “everything in between” on July 1. Please Momof3 can you watch it, because I don’t think I could possibly sit through one minute of it. Hopefully, WAY before July 1, none of us will have to view the new release for clues and Morgan will be home
belleboyd,
I so hope there will be no need to watch the videos. I appreciate your confidence in my 3.0 skills. I promise you, and Josie if needed, I will watch the videos and report back. To everyone that thanked me for watching the video, I appreciate the positive feedback,and the questioning, Fletch. From one video we learned
many groups at the concert could have been ided as Morgan’s group
many girls (including Dee) and some guys could have been mistaken for Morgan.
Sky you wrote:
But I asked him if he saw any blonde-haired girls in a Pantera shirt — “Only about 30,” He said there were lots of girls there w/ Pantera shirts — I said: Are you sure ? And he replied, he likes Pantera, so he is sure —
Thank you for your insights again. This is my point with the videos. Morgan could have been mistaken for any # of girls. Her own family had to watch Dee’s vid more than once and they couldn’t come to any 1 conclusion.
And we learned from the video this:
There was a great deal of video/camera recordings/pictures being taken that night, from all different areas of the arena.
I am sure if given the chance, and if asked, all concert goers would willing submit there videos,pics
Perhaps a public service kindof commercial with Metallica members,LOG and G-=- they could tell Morgan’s story and ask their fans to come forward. Maybe even offer a free concert or memorabilia for all who come forward.
J2k, my friend, thanks for the new name. I appreciate your input on the vids and basta pages. My greatgrandma would say NOOO it is Italian, but you are correct. It was LOG by the way, of this I am certain.
Fish, thanks for the memories of the day after pains from HB.,and for asking the hard questions.
Michael25,
Hey welcome to BOC, don’t worry I, Skyler, Fish and others got your back. Everyone here is really nice and we are sure to always stick up for metalers, film buffs, underdogs and victims. I am sure no one meant any disrespect or harm. Sometimes when thinking aloud while typing our/their words tend to come out too harsh…
Mouse, no worries keep on keeping on…
Wayne, TY for replying to all of our posts. We all have one thing that we are trying to accomplish and that is bringing Morgan home to her family. Do you have a theory of what you think happened that night to Morgan?
Skyler, your son said there was alot of girls wearing Pantera shirts? Maybe all the sightings were not of Morgan then????? I know there were a ton of people there and on the slim chance that just 1 girl wore a pantera shirt, is weird but that’s what I was thinking Just 1 girl…yeah it takes me awhile sometimes…lol It never crossed my mind that there could possibly be more then 1 wearing the same bands shirt.
I don’t know what to think anymore…everyone has different theories that all lead to the same outcome that has happened but nothing is producing Morgan. I wish OYE would come back and share her insights. I really think she had alot more to say.
I don’t think Morgan’s friends are guilty of anything beyond bad judgement. I still wonder if there was some sort of fight going on between them …?? Could be why Morgan left to begin with. Felt better being away from them then to be with them???? I have 2 daughters and i know what it was like to have 3 girls together, one always got left out or ignored or made fun of…..
In most crime cases they always go back to the last KNOWN people to talk to the missing person, re: the BB players. Not saying they did or did not do anything, but they are the last KNOWN people to see and talk to Morgan. I wish they would come here and talk to us as Wayne and SGM did…maybe we could have some more answers to some burning questions. I do know if I were in their situation I would be singing like a canary so everyone knew what took place and noone could form any kind of negative thought about what happened. Corrine Gellar said they were free to talk, wonder why they don’t just clear all this up….
Blink, we sure did miss you this week. Hope you are back soon.
Blink please review before posting – Edit as you feel fit!! Luv ya girl!!
O.K., O.K. Let’s all take a step back for a moment. We’re all edgy because we want resolution, that’s no reason to take it out on each other! You are all brilliant, inciteful, humorous, etc., etc., etc. Some day I hope to grow up to be like y’all.
I started awhile back goin through all the posts, pulling out what I thought were significant pieces & putting them all together as one, I got deterred. I have to work for the electricity to run this computer! Hee Hee.
To clarify a few things . . . Dan’s dad is a hedge fund manager & one of the girls kissed Morgan as she was leaving, not the other way around. Did JT leave C’ville? If not, how could he come back in November?
I didn’t see the video of Gil saying Basta! Did she say it like “pasta” or like “Shasta”?
A little about me – five/six years ago a boy went missing after being at a party with friends, headed to another party. When I heard of this, I gasped & said, “OMG, he’s under water!” There are some strip mines around here. I had no idea if it was intentional or accidental.
The local sheriff’s department bought some underwater detection equipment & thought they would try it out at a local state park, and LO & BEHOLD! They found a truck under water with this boy in it.
Some time later I was watching an episode of Psychic Kids & a native of the area went fishing with his dad & had a fit! He wanted off of the lake they were fishing at. He told his dad, “That boy is here!”
All I could think was – I knew he was under water. I’m not saying I’m psychic, I guess I’m trying to say don’t discount anything.
It’s a horrible situation for M/M Harrington & Alex & anybody else who knew Morgan. He77, I didn’t know her & I’m bound & determined that I am going to drive to Virginia to find her! My son thinks I’m nuts. Maybe I am, but whatever if takes . . . Morgan needs to be found!!!
I heart all of you!
Wayne, I thought about you for a millisecond, but I see you are too smart to have had any involvement. Thanks for your efforts on trying to find this absolutely stunning young woman.
SGM, sorry your not smart enough to have been involved. I’m sure you are a nice guy, just living life & hanging & all that.
I remember Blink’s posts from early on & I will get back to researching them – maybe tomorrow evening.
Blink, is there an earlier thread than 11/12/09 UVA Bball players . . .? I didn’t see anything earlier in the related threads.
I know this is long & not like me!
Best wishes all.
Don’t mean to single anyone out, but Skyler, you’re the first one I’m going to look up when I get to VA, followed closely by Cville.
I hope other people are posting … I so hate when all my posts are together and it looks like I am a thread hog, who only enjoys reading her own posts….LOL
Anyway…
First I want to say I did not take offense to Fletch’s post, she? IMO was just doing what we all do here, offer our input,and ask questions.
With Fletch’s question a had a chance to analyze myself. I am still not 100% sure Morgan made it to the concert or perhaps into the arena.
Although, I have taken several steps in the opposite direction. My motives for watching the footage was NEVER to find BG. I do find Dee’s groups behavior/ interactions ect interesting. From the vids I know if any of these people partied with Morgan’s group before the concert or if Morgan was in the tall guy group or the PMG whatever they injested was mellow not hyper at all.
But I digress, Gifter3, thank you for your post. IMO it took a great deal of courage to call out observer… You made some valid remarks and you did it with respect,just as Starbucks did in her post,with questions earlier. Thank you.
I agree, sometimes observer can come off as somewhat above it all, and that can be frustrating. I too wish she could offer more than the snippets we get. I understand why she can not. I value observers input,just as I value each comment.
I must admit, until you pointed out that she was referencing my post I missed it.Now that you have brought it to my attention I will speak to Observer directly.
Observer, Thank you for rejoining the conversation.I am sorry that you did not feel the need to engage sooner,as I am sure I can speak for most here,including Blink, when I say your perspective and analysis of Morgan’s case is invaluable. I would like to have your insight into whether or not LE has checked the known party spots of Morgan and her friends, also Misty Mountain c.ground surrounding area. Having read your latest posts, I have some questions and comments….
First, I am sorry if you took any references to an insider as a nod to you. I hadn’t thought that others would infer info of an insider to you, directly. Thank you for clearing that up.
Second, in regards to redleys post, you wanted us to take a good look at it. I did, although I agree with several points, I am not sure which you agree with.
I do not agree that we are reading too much into LE stating Morgan was acting irrationally. At the time of this statement, I asked, when did she begin acting irrationally? Before the concert,during log after the fall, irrational,what does that mean? Irrational is a strong word, separate and distinct from- out of sorts, intoxicated, incoherent, unreasonable, lacking good judgement or lacking mental clarity. It implies something stronger than these words,IMO, even though each is essentially the same, the severity is implied.
Redley went on to say, “BTW, if she was tripping, that can be a mind impacting experience but she would have physically been in control.”
IMO this is not always true. bad batch,too much, bad reaction, mixed with other drugs or too much drink,high heels emotionally distressed, disoriented, possible head injury, all of these factors must be taken into account.
Next redley wrote:
“On the horse stuff/basta, it is fun to see the research skills but come on people. This isn’t a game. If Gil and Dan knew where there daughter was or who was responsible, that person would have been confronted by them or LE long ago.”
Again, respectfully I do not agree. This is not done in jest or to bone up on our research skills. I do agree this isn’t a game. But we are dealing with a PBG if we are to effectively look into Morgan’s abduction we have to look at all angles. I agree if Dan or Gil or any of us knew where Morgan was FOR a FACT or Who was responsible we would tell. Yet, I must point out we were looking at the words written by Gil,she may be speaking to Morgan one day, BG next, she may swing from hope to despair from one blog to the next. She may be consciously giving clues or not. Also, if POI not named POI has a lawyer or is out of reach LE and/or Harrington’s can not confront them. LE may not want to show their cards as of yet.. Who knows? If you do, please enlighten us.
Redley, please, know that my bringing up your post was not meant to put you on the spot,or as a slight to you, or valuable insights. I just happen to disagree with some of what you wrote…
Observer, you referenced posts, but for the most part did not elaborate. This leaves room for interpretation. Which often times isn’t a good thing.IMO You spoke of “group think”, I take offense to that term. As I wrote last night, every post is important, every thought. Are you not asking as too subscribe to “group think” when you single out posts and tell us how important they are? You being who you are, gives your stamp of approval a higher standard than all who comment here, except for Blink.
As to Fletch’s question to me, on what I hoped to learn from the vids,I stated this several times. IMO that video proves that many if not all the independent witnesses could have been mistaken. Keeping in mind that- 1 if not 2 witnesses and their groups knew and possibly were friends with the friends.The video is important for more than a possible sighting of BG, as I stated reasons in an earlier post.
I realize observer, that you are trying to assure us that LE is doing their job. Thank you. I am sure they are doing their best. I realize observer that you want us to know UVA is doing their best.Thank you, I believe this to be true. I realize, too, that many people have been looked into on this board, I like you have stayed out of alot of conversations. We are free here to disagree. We are free here to give our perspective, whether popular or not and we are free here to not get involved in a particular post. Thank you so much for giving your perspective, it is most welcomed. Please, do participate more frequently. We all missed you. BTW hope your puppy is well.
Wayne, thanks for responding to the questions that were asked. For the record I only got suspicious when that guy (sorry don’t remember the name) said you left the concert early. All of the other information that was dug up on you means nothing if you were at the concert the whole time. I’m sorry if you feel you were singled out on here, if you look on the previous threads you’ll see other people have been discussed then we moved on. We are not trying to be malicious in any way, we all want Morgan home. Unfortunately we have probably never heard of the person that is involved, so we can’t find anything on him. I do think LE has someone they are making a case against but we won’t know his name until he is in cuffs. Until then I guess people are going to have to put up with crazy theories, dreams, and even a psychic or two. The worst thing that can happen is if we stop talking at all.
Wayne, Thank you for posting, and thank you for your thoughts and observations that night. Much appreciated. Welcome to BOC
Mamy, Very thought provoking post thanks for sharing, quite plausible IMO.
Chad, Alexandra, Local, Elizabeth, acho,Loca, thanks for the info and the thoughts… quite interesting.
Jolly, I agree, good idea,in other cities as well.
Wayne, thank you for taking the time to write such a good post…I know you’re in this every bit as much as we are, and sometimes it’s hard to explain just why we’re so invested in Morgan’s case. I think for me, as a parent with four kids close to Morgan’s age, it comes down the pain I see in Dan and Gil’s eyes. I can only imagine. If I had a child stolen from me, as they have, I’d hope to have the help of all of the incredibly intelligent and compassionate people on this board. This includes you.
Which brings me to gifter3′s last post. I agree with your comments to Observer, and have found some of her past comments condecending, as well. I’ve not said anything because I have no idea who she is, and I still have a lot of respect for what she has to say. But Observer, you write to us as if we’re all just wasting our time. You seem to have some information and answers to which we’re not privy. We’re struggling to keep our heads above water on this one for Dan and Gil. With all due respect, if you’re Chief Longo, or Corine Geller, then please go arrest someone and bring Morgan home. We’re not playing games, either.
Please someone bring Morgan home.
I can assure you Observer is neither. I can also assure you it is not her intention to be condescending.
B
*** Wayne,
Thank you for taking the time to post. I appreciate your efforts in helping to find Morgan.
The posting regarding your friend asking you about what happened to you during the concert did make it sound like you had actually left the concert and, perhaps, returned. It also made it sound like Marvin had left during the concert with you. Thus, yes, making it sound very suspicious.
The LE have already talked with you, since you are a witness, correct?
Thank you, again, Wayne, for clarifying the questions asked of you.
gifter3, perhaps you need to reread your own post for enlightenment.
It is this unnecessarily combative tone that prompts me to say ‘screw it’.
Please don’t. This case needs your mind.
B
*** B ***
Welcome back! We missed you!
>>> Why is this UVA Police report from 10/18 still listed as ‘Active’??
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I’m still reading, but got this far in J2K’s post and wanted to answer: — here’s how you can tell the difference between Metallica and LOG — the LOG people have on shorts and all have very long hair — the lead singer swishes his hair around (gross) and spits — double gross —
Metallica lead singer, Metal God, per my son, James Hetfield, has short hair and facial hair — the lead guitarist is kind of short, but has long curly hair and dark grey shorts that fit more closely to his legs (Kurt Hammond, who also was the spokesperson for Metallica in the media — has children of his own, kicked a heroin habit — as did James Hetfield; and is very sincere in their statements re: Morgan — last guy whose name I cannot spell, I believe is also father/married/and clean — “looks like a gorilla” per my son’s comment just then ! Also, I know it’s been in different forums, etc. where people were ragging on Metallica for not doing more — and then when they did contribute, said it was all PR — I do not believe that to be the case. I believe that when they were made aware of Morgan missing is when they took action, including a personal phone call to the Harringtons. Kurt Hammond was very emotional after speaking privately with the Harringtons — he put himself, just like we have done — in their shoes — Morgan was his child — in this instance, I think Metallica are sincere —
Back to Ms. J’s post …
WAYNE: I want to thank you for posting your accounts. You did a good job of answering a number of questions and I appreciate you coming here to set the record straight. Thank you for your efforts to find Morgan.
Comment by Wayne — January 23, 2010 @ 12:18 am
I apologize for my actions in my earlier post.
Wayne: Thank you for stepping up to the plate!
Somehow, in a strange way, I believe you.
I am sorry to hear about your problems with your girlfriend. No dissrespect but you both could use some parenting classes. It helps with the stress of your relationship, your jobs and helps you both learn to communicate. I tell this to you because my husband and I went through a course at our local YMCA, way back when. You see we both have jobs in the medical profession, kids and the absolutely tragic deaths of two family members, so the stress built up!!
I hope that your girlfriend can see that you where trying to help and would be willing to go this route. Believe me when I say this and I am saying this loud and clear…search for and accept the help. Your son will only get bigger and so do the demands. Give him two parents that can communicate with each other!
You state we all would have done the same thing. Yes, and this is no different than most of us here on this site. Some of us actually participated in the searches and some just think it through on this site. Bounce ideas back and forth. We all have our strong suits here. Localcvillegirl, is right there in Charlottesville. I rely on her insight to the layout of JPJA. I think Momof3 and I are obsessed looking at the videos. Hell, even Shannon McDaniel came on and talked to us all. We are all trying.
We would welcome you to start participating on a regular basis. I know for one, I would love another set of eyes that night. Skyler is our only set, so far. She has done an outstanding job of piecing together a time line. You could help us understand that night’s schedule also. You never know.
It seems to me that you do want to help even at the expense of your relationship. We all have posted on this site about how sometimes our family members think we have gone off the deep end. I always answer back it is because we care. In my case, it is because I live in Harrisonburg and have a young daughter coming of age. I am absolutely frighten for her. Morgan was in Harrisonburg that day. It just hits as close to home as it gets.
If you go and search some of my old posts, you will see that I said to Blink and company, that I showed my daughter those searchers because I wanted her to believe that there was more Good Guys than Bad Guys.
I pray that you are telling the truth and you are a Good Guy!
Trust me, when you son goes to the movies for the first time with his friends, you will be worried until he is home safe! It is the nature of the beast(sorry, no pun intended)of being a parent. You worry!
Now, with this all being said if you do have a relationship with the local Charlottesville anchor and I believe this to be Henry Graff, then call him and hound him to do a story about Morgan Harrington! Uncover the whatever is going on with this girl’s story. I dare say maybe there is a Peabody Award, in it for him. I truly believe something is going on. But, someone has to have the balls to actually ask those hard questions and have the avenue to do it in!
Please Wayne, there is nothing on the news. We all need to start putting pressure on the powers that be. Then and only then, can Morgan be found! How does a girl that has 33,000 plus on a facebook account and the numbers that are on all the other sites not have airtime?
Dr. Harrington is right, we must not let Morgan slip from our minds. If you have some pull then pull now, Wayne. Pull now!!!!!
We all would love to have resolution. God forbid, Morgan has passed and God Willing, Morgan is out there needing help and direction to get back to her parents! To those that love her, need her back no matter what. Those that lost loved ones understand this is part of a never-ending healing process! This is my fact!
Thank you for answering some of my questions and I hope that you begin to participate on a regular basis. I will talk to your girlfriend and tell her that there is nothing but love here…nothing but love!
a warmer fish!
We don’t need more of the rule of law – we got that and it ain’t working. What we do need is a code of personal integrity and responsibility, like that displayed at the concert for Morgan by all participants. It is precisely that attitude of caring plus responding to create change that will be the savings of us all. That energy can move mountains; it can change outcomes, and perhaps even bring my girl back home.
Observer what do you think Gil meant by this? Is the silence what “ain’t working”?
Based upon another poster’s brain energizing ‘fantasy’ scenarios, I would like to add my own ‘pretend what if’ for contemplation and dialogue.
What if an individual had a relationship with someone associated with a powerful university or a law enforcement agency and there was a major incident. Would there not be at least one honorable person within either of these two institutions who would have the courage to come forth with their suspicions?
If not, then, in this ‘pretend’ situation, there would be a mass of educated cowards. Is that really possible?
Assuming Ms Harrington had no cash on her when she found herself outside the arena would it be plausible for her to offer her necklace as a form of payment in exchange for a lift someplace? Obviously this is pure speculation on my part but i can`t get my head around the significance of the necklace to LE, was it offered to the BB players maybe? I sure hope all local pawn shops have been canvassed. Any insight into the value of this necklace?
Also, i think it was Observer who earlier stated that Ms Harrington would more than likely be found within a 25 mile radius of her last sighting, Skyler could you maybe give an estimation as to the length of Metallica`s set that evening if you can? 90 minutes could be ample enough time for somebody to commit a wicked deed and indeed return to the area in time for a rendevous with an alibi. Again, pure speculation on my part but i have to throw it out there because it certainly seems plausible…..
I wish that LE could come out and at least let us know that the stolen purse report at 9PM that was then cancelled was not Morgan’s purse. I think it may have been. I think she was fine at the concert. Something happened after she left. Did she loose her purse and then had it handed back to her. Did she have a flask in her purse? Could she have been reunited with her purse and something was added to the flask? I think something happened quickly to her outside. Something that affected her behavior quickly. I wonder was she going to drive somewhere…thus being told not to get drunk because the friends needed her and the car back. Perhaps she then could not find her keys. Why were the friends surprised to see her car their. There could have been 2 sets of keys. Maybe she kept a spare in her purse. She lost her purse, can not get back in, She tells them not to leave she will find a ride. She gets the purse back calls and says I have my purse back I will come back to pick you up. Friends say do not get drunk, please, Bye. Morgan looks in purse and her extra key is not there. She can not call friends back for what ever reason. They leave and are surprise the car is still there and not Morgan. Just another idea.
clementine: yep
mom3.0: Most definitely; if oye is the girl on my facebook, then there’s not a doubt in my mind she’s close enough to morgan and the friends to know inside information.
I peripherally know morgan, and her abduction has made me very aware and determined to make the females and younger children in my life aware as well. There is not a moment I’m outside alone or outside at night with friends, that I don’t think about morgan; that I don’t see a guy who sets off my hinky meter and wonder if he’s someone watching his “prey”.
People can bash my opinion all they want but if this whole thing has bothered me so much, even 3 months later, and I am not a close friend of Morgans, how the hell can those girls party 2 weeks later??? I personally believe that some of those girls have grown up getting away with too much, and have had their flaws and wrongdoings hidden and protected. That’s how this area is and it is beyond sad because now that they’re in the real world, they feel like they don’t have to accept responsibility and everything they put out to be seen is a facade. I can only hope and pray that they have an epiphany and realize that life is not all about alcohol, partying, hooking up, and going out–None of it is helping to find Morgan.
Folks, I have read the posts today (read them every day except for the ones I miss because they get put in the middle of ones I have already seen), but if I have on occasion come of as harsh or snippy. I apologize. That was certainly not my intent. I am in a profession which requires and naturally have a figure it out/work it through style that involves challenging people’s thoughts from time to time — not to belittle them but to draw them out and test them. I understand that some folks have a different style and, especially on the internet where you cannot see the persons face or hear their tone, different people are sometimes more sensitive to what is or is not said in the written word than the writer expects. I will try to avoid coming off that way in the future.
Observer — your posts are invaluable.
Warm Fish — good post to wt above. The more info we can draw out of people who were actually there the better (skyler for instance has been remarkable).
RNMom — thanks for the post on the drugs. I do know that people can have very bad reactions and be completely out of control. I was responding to a theory that she could not have been so drunk/tripping because if she had she would have been acting so irrationally the police would/should have stepped in. What I was suggesting is that people can be in that state and acting irrationally for them (i.e., HHing, approaching strangers) but would not appear to be worrisome to security watching from a distance.
Many other very useful posters too.
If Morgan had a relationship with someone in a powerful position.
University, LE or rock-star, would we be looking at this differently than we have been as relationships with EMT and concrete paving people?
DO NOT POST **** DO NOT POST *** FOR BLINKS EYES ONLY
Blink,
You can repost this as your own info, if you wish. I do NOT want my name connected to this link, please.
This is a link to the VA sex offender’s registry. Note that this guy is working at UVA Hospital.
UVA goofed big time if they did not run a criminal background check on this guy.
Question: Was this guy also employed at the arena the 10/18? A bald guy near the stage resembles him (in the video).
BAILEY, WALTER, RAY
http://sex-offender.vsp.virginia.gov/sor/offenderDetails.html?regId=23411
Wayne, it is commendable of you to post here and address some of the questions posters have asked. I have lived a bit longer than you, and can tell you that every difficult experience in your life will make you stronger and hopefully smarter, if you allow it to.
Your posts have erased any doubt that I may have had about you, although I never gave that too much consideration.