Morgan Harrington Murder: Rumors Of A Suspects Arrest
Charlottesville, VA– This afternoon, originating on a VT Athletics Site rumors clogged the web that a suspect was placed under arrest for the murder of Morgan Harrington. After my 20th comment in 10 minutes and 12th email inquiry about it, I went to the source.
..There has been no arrest. It is an unfounded rumor and I have no idea how or where it started. I can only assume it stemmed from the fact that we completed our investigation of the crime scene at Anchorage Farm early this afternoon, I guess I will probably have to put out an email this afternoon..”
– Corrine Geller, PR Manager for VSP to Blink
As exclusively reported yesterday on blinkoncrime.com, it is expected that the and VSP upcoming conversations with those on the list with permission to hunt on Anchorage Farm, will propel the investigation into the murder of Morgan Harrington quickly.
However, Virginia State Police are not discussing whether or not they have a person of interest or suspect in this case.
There is however, unreleased new information and new evidence gleaned from the crime scene. VSP will not disclose what personal effects were found with Morgan’s remains at this time.
The viral arrest rumor was not the only odd occurrance today.
In what appears to be an unrelated coincidence, an explosive device was detinated on the train tracks close to James Madison University this morning. A nearby dorm has been evacuated in connection with materials found at the scene, and a criminal investigation has been launched by the ATF.
JMU is the school several of Morgan’s friends attend, and from where the group departed to attend the Metallica Concert that fateful night of October 17, 2009.
Check back to blinkoncrime.com for updates to this developing story.
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TXPam, acho (and whoever gaped at the utter disgrace of an article slopped together by some hack on abcNEWS.com) -
I know! I never, ever do this, but after tripping on glaring gaffe after grammar error after *wrong* victim’s name followed by *wrong* parent’s name after numerous misspelled words, such as “Roanoke” and “concert,” followed by wrong information (NO clear surveillance of her at JPJ) and further injured by the most awkward, ill-recorded quotes ever (sorry, Jill Helm! if that’s how your name is actually spelled!) and capped by the headline from a special hell for j-school flunkies: “Friends of Morgan Harrington Know Foul Play Was Involved” (“Involved” in what? her death? “Foul Play” would be the cause of death, not “involved” in it – how about: “Friends of MH Suspect Foul Play” ?) – oh, and the clunky, illogical header is then immediately contradicted by the first friend quoted in the story: “I really *don’t know* what happened to her,” Testerman told ABCNews.com” (Testerman is also mistakenly switched with the murder victim’s name further down the page (“…no suspect in the Testerman case either.)
… Wait. Where was I going with this? Oh yeah – I never do this, but I was so moved by indignation at its sorry state that I registered for the comment section and posted a withering critique before alerting Emily Friedman, abcNEWS.com, (and the copy editor that clearly hates them) that they should be ashamed of themselves, and MH, her family, friends, LE and all those interested in her case deserve better than the insultingly careless that remained uncorrected all day long, and will probably be archived that way.
I posted, feeling justified in my action, and watched it pop up. By the time I had filled my goblet, it had been erased – yet every mistake remained, despite some putz taking the time to erase my comment. And, just checked: still riddled with wrong.
Anyway! I feel better now. It heartened me to see others equally appalled.
To that point:
Chad, Judi, B -
The execrable piece above was the *only* source of the “she was seen on surveillance cameras” line.
It was a “scoop” alright – but the kind you shovel from a litter-box, not a fresh piece of previously unreleased information.
(Too much?)
By the way, all:
I finally checked out the “Want to be Profiler” post from 11/09 and… wow. Gives me chills. He may have been tapping his “gut feeling” on the matter, but noting months ago that she would be found about 6-15 miles away in a farmland area, at the end of a field by a tree-line, (and other specifics that have yet to be confirmed but are certainly possible)… well, he pretty much, um, nailed it.
Then again, he also predicted 9/11:
(Want to be Profiler:) “No not a killer or a psychic just my gut feelings are almost always right… Sometimes gut feelings are uncomfortable but just with instinct people just know. I mean have you ever had a feeling that something has happened and then later on it was true? 2001 I told my teacher that something bad was going to happen someone might die, and then the terrorists hit the WTC and she was shocked and called my mom. some are more sensitive to more things than others but I had a dream about her so i looked up a missing person and there she was a young blonde girl…
Please don’t think ill of me I just had to say it… People fear the unknown.”
Sleep tight, everyone!
RNmom, I don’t know, but I have wondered the same thing.
marywhunt:
Thank you for “but don’t lose your faith here.” Yes I am not happy with local LE. I am not local and know quite a bit about the law.
I went to a little school in Tennessee. Tennessee and Virgina law are very similar and codes from eachothers’ cases can be used to persuade a Judge.
What makes me so upset is that: I believe I could get the perp off as long as No GUN Shot or Knife with Blood is found. I strongly believe that campus police did cover up and that local and state really did believe that she ran a way. Typical sterio type. Metalica girl all drugged up runs off to the party life with the band.
As stated by B they were shocked when the body was found.
All of that time destroyed what could have been an air tight case. Normally with joint task force the Feds will have a series of headings. Each cell phone call or text would be traced. Then everyone that received the first would be traced. The cell phones are just one heading, the same with seat assignments, car tags, credit card purchase for tickets and security [both local and with the bands].
It is even pssible that aircraft could have been used very early. But, they did not think it was murder.
DNA will be hard, unless it is hair. I do not want to be cruel but insects and animals can destroy the proof that we need.
Ironicly, insects may help to decide if the body was placed there or near the tree line. Also can help with better dating of death. Even to the day, not hour.
IMO they were negligent and in the case of the campus police there is intent that I believe can be proved.
B, knows what happens when in court you can show negligence and intent.
The Feds need to take over.
Kidnapping could be proved with tree cameras not murder. Rape maybe, but murder, it will be hard to prove and let it stand up in appeal. A good trial lawyer, all you need is to get one to have the smallest doubt.
I will keep the faith, hope for a brake down and solid confession. Hope its not locals only taping that statement.
Mary, those videos were on page five of a 123 people search of Morgan Harrington under “videos”. Until there’s some real physical evidence results linking persons(s) this is going to go on for days as a classic whodunit. I hope it’s not the case for sake of family, but I think everyone will still be here next week recounting various hypothesis and I think anything is possible…
To bob-dog (#1027) and Observer (#1029)–
Thanks for the grins, y’all
May be the only thing standing between us and TMJ in our grim-set jaws!
*As far as I know, TMJ is not initials of a new unsub on the scene, yet may show up as such in tomorrow’s C-ville Weekly. (Trying to play catch-up after ignoring the subject for 3 months.)
All this talk from Enquirer and others that different internet discussion groups are being asked to take down posts relating to the Pantera shirt or to possible POIs leads me to question if someone is impersonating Lt Rader or some other LE official.
Blink, what do you think? Earlier today cupcake complained that on this site there was too much specific info relating to presumably innocent individuals. Could friends masquerading as LE be trying to influence site moderators to remove info?
Okay crimewriter I didn’t laugh at the 2nd one…it was nice. The thing about the first one was when he said we on the east coast needed to get our act together. I’m sorry. It’s the stress…
PamTx,
I like to pick my battles, not start them. If people chose to respond in a sharp manner, or treat other posters by belittlng them, you have to let them. That is something that I will not do nor will I ever do here. I believe that everyone has a story, and should be heard. We all here are trying to contribute. If we didn’t care about Morgan, we wouldn’t post.
Back to the comment, I trust the media, we all do. Who wouldn’t trust ABC news as a source. That a big great big stick with a huge quote to go along with it. I think the confusion on the video statement is perhaps in one of Radar press conferences, he stated that it was reported that Morgan tried at several locations to get back into the concert by security. Perhaps that may have been the confusion, and simply replaced it with “on video”. which, once again, it could be the product of sloppy misleading and misleading reporting, for a major news source by the way. I dunno where else that could have come from. JUST pure SPECULATION on my part.
That is why I enjoy this site so much, as, it is moderated ( the great equalizer) and if something gets thrown out there to us, has a little bite to it, Blink will either put it into play on the, or bench it based on the facts and credibility of the source. She hasn’t missed yet.
Glad you are posting more Pam…..I always enjoyed your posts.
#1046 – Mary, I’m not familiar with insession but I shall pop over for a read. That individual is well known in the area by locals and LE. I am aware of his bulbous record and fragrant disrespect for the law and many in his community. I doubt few have shed a tear over the result of his recent run-in with the law.
I would be happy to see discussions surrounding this individual kept to a minimum for a plethora of reasons (not necessarily MH related reasons). That would make me a very happy man indeed.
John Ekman, who manages a gas station south of Anchorage Farm, knows David Bass and refers to the Bass family as “nice people.” Asked whether drivers along Red Hill Road could access Anchorage Farm easily, Ekman replied that he doubted it. “Not many places for people to pull over,” he explained.
Many of the homes in neighboring Blandemar Farm Estates sit on lots of 21 acres or more. According to one resident, the majority of Blandemar’s population is either retired or “semi-retired,” with grown children. Several residents claimed they were unaware of any trouble with trespassing in the area.
“It is secluded, and the lots are expansive,” said one resident. “People live out here because they like their privacy.”
The same resident said that a few bowhunters control the deer population in the community, but “they will always let us know when they are on our property.”
“The grass probably would’ve been at least two feet, maybe three feet tall, at the time of this tragedy,” said a resident about their property. “Anyone going through that field by foot or by car, I would’ve seen the tracks…[A]nd I saw no tracks.”
The resident also detailed the division between Anchorage Farm and their property in Blandemar: a half-mile that includes a ridge (“very steep”), a creek, woods and several rows of barbed wire fencing. “Not that it couldn’t be done. It could be done, but with great difficulty. At night, I’d say pretty much impossible.”
http://www.c-ville.com/index.php?cat=11101808092903167&ShowArticle_ID=11800102104276532
Mary, I’m following along also and their “circle jerk” is quite compelling.
Guys, can we go back to PG rating please?
I am on location again for 2 days, little access, please
B
What a roller-coaster ride this is!
When, at post #846, Lovely casually asked, “Is it possible the known offender and the ex boyfriend are the same person?” and Blink calmly answered, “yes”. . .well, I thought we might be on the brink of an “AHA!!” moment, long overdue.
No such luck: another darn premature ejaculation! You know, this case is so dang twisty inside my head that I fear my brain . . .well, you’ve seen those models of brains, with the surface of them all loopy and twisted– I fear mine is worse than that and headed for certifiable Ramen noodledom >:-(
So, have LE had the ex-boyfriend in mind as the “offender” against Morgan? Or to whom, semantically, has he been a “known offender?” Where are we on this point? Can we nail something down? Please!
Okay, okay– I’ll get back on the roller coaster.
Say. . . this isn’t a roller coaster– it’s a lousy gerbil wheel!!
I wouldn’t discount the circle jerk they are talking about being the BG. Not yet.
Comment by Chad — February 1, 2010 @ 5:28 pm
Redly:
My comment was certainly not to invite a remidial high school geometry course or apply literal logistics to per square inch of each person, per square inch per land searching on foot. So sorry you took it in the extreme literal sense. My question was, and was simply based on mine and other posters belief below, ( has been a common theme throughout) that there were not enough TARGETED area searches of certain areas, (29 was talked about non stop) and also that was even more prevalent not only in the “radious” sense, but in the overall physical “search for a missing Morgan” seemed to lack a general feel of enthusiasim and focus of AREAS. Many many people on other forums and discussion boards were so ready and willing to search at anytime. In addition, many individuals did their own searching independent of an organized search with LE or other organized group.
My point being, the area in which Morgan was found was a known college party place, ( still no ID’s there on what college students lived there) one of the rental properties in the area. In a general sense. It should have been an area of interest.
I do agree with Blink in what she had stated, to qualify a search, has to be qualified. But qualify with what? Picture of a possible dead body found on the arial photos? What qualifies a search? Nonetheless, Morgan was found less than 10 miles from the arena, where allegedly she was last seen (bridge HH).
The lack of organized (that we know of) searches does lead me, imo to believe that LE had a working theory and did not and was not enthused, nor did initiate further ground searches on foot or otherwise for Morgan. Or even searching new possible targeted areas.
I am so elated that Morgan’s body has been found. Some missing childrens parents are still waiting, and some unfortunately never know. What hell for them. Not criticising LE, just wondering a bit.
She is home, she is with her family now, they have closure. Just wondering…..
Redly,
I am certainly not criticising LE at all Redly. I simply just asked Observer and Cooper, since it is a stat that victims are usually found within 20 miles, It appears that she was found less than 10 miles from the arena, and LE had so much community support and volunteers that people probably would have been willing to do search nd or more searches. Perhaps CUE had that area on their radar for futre searches. I was questioning Observer and Cooper to get their thoughts since they are both retired LE. LOL. Math was never my strong suits.
About Lt. Rader’s remark about not searching Anchorage farm because there was no reason to: I have been frustrated the entire time that Morgan was missing because until the recent involvement of the CUE group, it seemed to me that LE wasn’t interested in searching much of anywhere. I know there were some early searches in Charlottesville, but after that not much of anything. I still don’t understand why one of the well-known national search groups were not called in one or two weeks after she disappeared.
To me, JMHO, it means that LE probably thought that Morgan Harrington never made it to the concert. Therefore, they never thought she’d be found in Charlottseville.~Moonchime
841.Comment by RNmom — February 1, 2010 @ 12:15 am
It says to me that they were shocked because their POI may have lived on this property and they would never have thought they would be so careless????????
B, re: “Just a thought my good friend- Nobody was more surprised than LE that Morgan was found where she was. Lt. Rader specifically said they never searched that area because nothing led them there.
What does that mean to everyone?
B”
I dunno, call me Simpleton, but to me it means LE thought BG was heading west. I think it’s what most of us thought, too. Back to H’burg, B’burg, or the ‘Noke, “from whence they came.” I am thinking this is someone with strong ties in that direction and–surprise, surprise–to Albemarle County, too.
S Jones: Hello. I have read your posts, and I do find them interesting. Are you in LE? Do you work for the FBI? Can you expand on some of your comments below? Thanks in advance.
Comment by S Jones — February 1, 2010 @ 7:32 pm
Observ and Joea:
Kidnapping is Federal crime, state lines do not have to be crossed. Federal taxes and other advantages are offorded to National Historical places.
There are at least 2 dozen cases where Federal officials have taken over Murder w/ Kidnapping cases where no State lines were involved.
Who do you think handles kidnapping? State Police, no! The FBI.
A long time ago, I posted the Virgina situation. Other States have histories. The US Department of Justice can take this case.
If you think local LE have handled this case, may I say when the perp is set free….
I wish that you were right, but IMO they have alreay screwed it up so bad.
Sjones:Comment by S Jones — February 1, 2010 @ 8:23 pm
“The morning after the kidnapping, U.S. President Herbert Hoover was notified of the crime. Though the case did not seem to have any grounds for federal involvement (kidnapping then being classified as a local crime), Hoover declared that he would “move Heaven and Earth” to recover the missing child. The Bureau of Investigation (not yet called the FBI) was authorized to investigate the case”
You do not have to cross state lines!
Judi: Blink cannot and will not verify that report. I think we are back to square one with the no photos of Morgan at the concert. Although I appreciate and empathize with what you are saying, we may have to let at least this go to the bench. Non verifiable.
Comment by Judi — February 1, 2010 @ 8:34 pm
CHAD #957 – article says that the DO have her on surveillence cameras at the arena trying to get back in. I always believed that they had these and for some reason were not releasing them to the public. The question now is why? Why would you not want film of a missing persons, what she was wearing, how she had her hair, etc not put out to the public? Take Britannee Drexel – the hotel had the footage of her on the day she vanished and they put it out there. This doesn’t make sense to me. I also believe that the bank at the end of the bridge has her on camera and they answered no comment when asked. So, why if we are trying to locate a missing person would they not get this footage of her out to the public to help in identifying her if seen?
Chad-
Qualified search zones are a combination of intel and aerial anomoly mapping. It is done by geospatical and aerial imaging analysts. We need to learn from this. I do not believe it would have saved Morgan but preserved evidence, definitely.
B
What’s the deal with this GRH…I figured out his name and looked up all his offenses. Assault, an illegal firearm possession, a slew of illegal hunting charges(including spotlighting, Isn’t that hunting at night?) dui, eluding a police officer, even a riding an atv without a helmet, thrown in for good measure….the list literally goes on and on. Certainly sounds like a BG. If this guy really has ties to the farm, the old hinkometer is off the charts. Blink are you willing to share anything at this point?
He was in jail when Morgan went missing per Enquirer
B
I’m fifty-hundred posts behind, but want to say thank you to the birthday wishers! Nice memories!
Fellow Aquarians…All Alice.
Tonight, my bday, I taught a French cooking class (all Julia) and got locked out the building when I took my first load to the car. Fortunately a friend had stayed close and was offering a phone. Who to call?
My door shaking brought a janitor, but oh my creepy, he looked like every bad photo we’ve seen. He ‘escorted’ me back to my classroom and offered to wait with me until I was finished. He gave me his cell phone number in case I was locked out again! I had a lot to finish in my kitchen and managed to stay focused. Hinky on steroids!
You all, every single one of you, was with me. I have weapons, but I was in a very vulnerable situation. How to turn that into a position of power was paramount. I did and had a very mellow ride home.
Thank you sisters and brothers at Blink On Crime.
On the HFMH Facebook forum, I posted a question asking why the posts were being deleted. Then, that post was deleted. This seems a bit extreme to me.
If this is for investigative reasons, is it not a bit late to be concerned that the perp will read a possible ‘clue’?
Certainly nobody is concerned about the influence this might have on potential jurors, are they? When the perp is arrested and brought to trial, I have little doubt that there will be a request to move the trial to another jurisdiction due to the publicity.
wait, so is Bass saying they do or don’t have trespassers? (the reporting in this case will drive me nuts until the end)
snip
Bass, who has owned the property since 1985 according to county records, says his visits to that portion of his land are infrequent—“It’s not a public place at all.” Asked if he dealt with trespassing problems, he replied, “No. We get hunters, we get people that hunt without permission. But every farm has that. We’ve had no problem here at all.”
end snip
good description of the land bordering his farm, tho, from a neighbor:
snip
The resident also detailed the division between Anchorage Farm and their property in Blandemar: a half-mile that includes a ridge (“very steep”), a creek, woods and several rows of barbed wire fencing. “Not that it couldn’t be done. It could be done, but with great difficulty. At night, I’d say pretty much impossible.”
unsnip
Let’s hope the significant items and evidence will solve this thing.
snip
According to Flaherty, “significant items and evidence” were found near the remains. As his comments joined the rumors spreading through the community that the remains were those of Harrington, Flaherty explained that state police “cannot release the evidence that leads us to this conclusion at this particular time.”
http://www.c-ville.com/index.php?cat=11101808092903167&ShowArticle_ID=11800102104276532
I probably am wrong but I do not think sweet Morgan made it to the concert. I believe something went horribly wrong in Harrisonburg or close by and the FRIENDS know the facts. Praying that today is the day we will learn that someone is in custody. God Bless this beautiful family and may they find peace.
Okay I’m confused: Enquirer says Gordon Staton was incarcerated at the time of Morgan’s disappearance. Did I miss that GRH was too? I thought Staton was the 44-year-old. GRH is the 28-year-old from Crozet.
I would like to apologize if I’ve offended anyone about anything here. Gonna step back and let it play out like its supposed to.
You did not Mary.
B
fish, but we haven’t been privy to any surveillance video, though have we? And the vids of LOG people are watching are of the floor. Wouldn’t Morgan have been in her seat wayyyy up in section 312? I thought the only reason we thought she was on the floor was because people thought they saw her in those vids, and made up facts to fit the scenario.
I’m willing to believe LE has her on surveillance video. Makes more sense than the earlier tales that seemed to say there WERE no surveillance videos in existence, or no cameras, or that there were lots of them but she wasn’t on them. I mean, the latter would make sense if she didn’t attend, but LE has not wavered on that (at least, they’ve seem firmly sure for awhile that she was there). They must base that on SOMETHING more than sketchy eyewitness accounts of blondes in black.
Mom3.0
Here is a link to some discussion of GRH Start at #443 Moondust. It goes on for a few pages
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=363581&page=12
Cause Of Death is too few crappers for the number of tickets sold . Easily provable . MH went on a nature call i have read . The women’s washroom was overflowing (with people) . She then left to use the facilities at the RV park . She either knew they were there or someone in the lineup told her about them . MH did fine until she was surprised she could not get back into the concert . I don’t see any conspiracy here for luring her out at all . This is very normal . She then wandered back over to the Lannigan field and RV park area . Her friends wondered why she did not return . They called her and she said she would make her way home . Most of us would intervene and go to her aid . But these are her same age friends and her peers . They are not her parents either so they just continued on listening to concert electrical device noise . Morgan was identified by the BB players and her friends as being at the concert location . Her ticket was swiped on entrance . The BB players and her three friends likely do not know each other . There goes another conspiracy . She obviously returned to the RV area and maybe asked for directions on HHing back home . Some sort of scenario in the RV /Lannigan Field/Copely Bridge area put her under control of the BG stranger . There is lots of noise cover from the loud concert and trains . The Copely Bridge is over the train track and the track abuts the RV lot . The events and people she came in contact during this crucial time frame are all random .No conspiracies by evil people in her small circle of X BF’s and friends of friends . The stranger she met was a certified criminal BG or just some ordinary guy without a criminal record stuck in an unfulfilling marriage . I tend to think it was the former who grabbed her and the purse fell to the ground during the scuffle . Local scavengers rifled through the purse looking for money and discarded the purse and contents . Some responsible person found it next day and turned it in . At the currant focial crime scene the aerials of some show her to the left of Anchorage rd another shows her beyond the end of the road . Either place is easily goten to by foot or SUV . I expect the Left one in the small opening is correct . There are too many obstacles and less cover from any other access direction than Anchorage rd . Despite Mr Bass protestations . I think the BG drove his SUV into Anchorage . Saw the lights at the second house and turned left across the pasture field . The grass there would have been flattened due to cattle grazing . The BG drove straight to the hedge then noticed the tracked lane ,turned right through the tracked lane going trough the small treed area a short distance to the small clearing surrounded by trees where MH remains were found . Driving slow in low gear with a 4 wheel drive truck/RV or an SUV would have been a piece of cake . I expect he was in this small clearing area with MH for severial hours and left unoticed in the dead of night . Someone who knew the area for sure and someone who didn’t know the area could have just as easily ended up there . Someone who knows how land flows would have a 4 wheel drive and can easily explore areas previously not visited by him . No need to fret over non existant conspiracy theories . This was a random sex crime by a stranger . Obviously no one has talked on the street so to say so it is a lab case . An unhappy crime conviction free husband would be problematic to ID . I just don’t think the who will be solved here at BOC . What do others think ? Blink what do u think ?
Thank you everyone that spoke up for me on the BF remark. I felt sooo bad for saying it out loud. I don’t know who Morgan’s ex is. I wouldn’t want Blink mad at me but I thought that is what she said. Sorry again Blink. BOC people are so smart. I am so impressed with all of you. I am a fan of LE but I worry that because they are only human, they are messing this up.
Not at all, I should have clearified your question before assuming you knew what I was talking about- My bad.
B
I might have done something wrong in my research, but I found that rgh was arrested 10/19 for assault and battery. I don’t think he was in jail on the 17th. Also, he would have a good reason for any scratches or bruises with that charge. Can LE tell exactly how old a cut or scratch is? Also, wouldn’t that explain why LE has been so firm in their statements that a BG isn’t running loose. He was in jail 2 days later? hmmmmmmm
if they have footage ,i am actually glad they didnt air it,i bet it had to do w/jpj legalities,or/and it is sentistive. i am not sure i would want to see it,it would be too sad.i wonder how maggie voth is doing.
to S.Jones, post 1053. I appreciate your insight. Could you expound on why “kidnapping, not murder, could be proved with tree cameras”..?
Word:
What a great way to celebrate your birthday! So sorry that had to happen to you. How scary is that for you! I am so glad that you are back and safe.
Gavin De Becker would be proud of you! Way to use the “fear” gifts! Wooot wooot!
Forced teaming, charming and niceness, and LOAN Sharking. Almost a chapter out his book, but with a happy ending.
Just to throw in my two cents.
I have always felt that Morgan was a victim of an unknown assailant.
Like Blink, I could never really wrap myself around the whole hitchhiking sighting.
But due to the fact that all Morgan’s sightings indicate that she was walking alone. Especially the one verifiable sighting with the basketball players. “No boyfriend”
Now it has been awhile, but if my recollection is correct she was texting a friend who lived at least an hour away. If she had friends close by or a boyfriend wouldn’t she have been texting that person or persons. To give them her exact location.
Police have her phone records and know exactly who she was in contact with on that evening. This maybe why they asked if anyone recalls lending her a phone, in the event she tried to contact anyone else.
I have not posted much on Morgan’s case, because I have always felt I was such a minority in my view of unknown assailant. But due to the
location of where her body was found. This leads me believe even stronger that she did not know the person who committed this horrendous murder. Also, who ever did this probably does not live alone, why else take her to an open field on a rainy night.
However, I do believe that this person was familiar with the area that Morgan was found, No way did they travel up that road at night,
enter that farm, take her into a field, leave her body in waist high grass and not know that in the light of day nobody would stumble across her or be working that part of the farm.
The person or persons who did this know exactly what they were doing.
I am leaning more towards a past farm worker, construction worker, maybe a hunter, but I kind of think a hunter would have made more of an attempt to bury the body. Someone who is familiar with the lay of the land.
Now I have not read all the above posts. So I am not sure if it was truly proved that the Pantera Shirt truly belonged to Morgan. But if so, that kind of freaks me out. This guy has no fear. Dropping purse back at RV park, dropping shirt at this location, these actions are telling in the kind of person LE is dealing with.
I read on another board that GRH was arrested on 10/28/09, which was after Morgan was abducted.
Perhaps we need the county- Can anyone look this up? I am on location again and a slave to my BB tether and laptop battery. TIA
B
Re: Comment by wanttohelp — February 1, 2010 @ 3:41 pm
Do others find yourselves bursting into tears at odd moments at the tragedy of it all? Gil’s last blog entry has especially torn me apart.
Often.
B
wanttohelp,
Yes, all the time. I just watched a girl give birth on the Today Show and all I could think about was Gil and Morgan never experiencing that. I sobbed for 10 minutes. I know my family think I have went off the Deep End! I just can’t help myself, this beautiful, lovely girl and her family have really made a place in my heart!
Any chance that Granny’s sighting and the “Kickee” report are one in the same??
S Jones — what do you think UVA police intentionally covered up? You must have some specifics in mind for that type of accusation.
Guys, I’m been a little out of the loop that last day or so. Is there an announcement coming today at 2 PM or something?
What kind of research has there been done on Taxis and their drivers in and around JPJ on Oct.17? I’m asking this because there had to be taxis everywhere and surely someone had to have seen something…specifically Morgan hitchhiking….Sorry if this has already been brought up…
# Comment by roageo — February 2, 2010 @ 4:41 am
Certainly nobody is concerned about the influence this might have on potential jurors, are they? When the perp is arrested and brought to trial, I have little doubt that there will be a request to move the trial to another jurisdiction due to the publicity.
^^^^ This is my guess as to the reason. Someone or ones, rightly or wrongly, thinks mentioning specifics about various possible POIs may help do some of the defense attorney’s work for him/her in creating reasonable doubt. I doubt it is the police doing this though.
Re: Comment by jen — February 2, 2010 @ 3:11 am
What’s the deal with this GRH…I figured out his name and looked up all his offenses. Assault, an illegal firearm possession, a slew of illegal hunting charges(including spotlighting, Isn’t that hunting at night?) dui, eluding a police officer, even a riding an atv without a helmet, thrown in for good measure….the list literally goes on and on. Certainly sounds like a BG. If this guy really has ties to the farm, the old hinkometer is off the charts. Blink are you willing to share anything at this point?
He was in jail when Morgan went missing per Enquirer
B
Blink I was under the understanding he was incarcerated the end of October around the 27th or so.
“”Comment by ohiomom — February 2, 2010 @ 12:33 am
All this talk from Enquirer and others that different internet discussion groups are being asked to take down posts relating to the Pantera shirt or to possible POIs leads me to question if someone is impersonating Lt Rader or some other LE official.
Blink, what do you think? Earlier today cupcake complained that on this site there was too much specific info relating to presumably innocent individuals. Could friends masquerading as LE be trying to influence site moderators to remove info?”"
Ms. ohiomom: I believe that is still impersonating an officer!
Would love for someone to explain the law as it pertains to the internet and facebook? Aren’t there rules and regulations, one signs onto when registering to become a FBer?
And, cupcake is true to her name. She is probably really unaware or a slight bit foolish but none the less, is stickin’ up for her friends.
In our family case, we had someone do that over the phone. Caused my family incrediable grief and pain!!!!
Le can trace phone numbers so I am sure that they can trace an IP address!!
Please, they (LE), cannot be this inept, as StarJ. would have it? Like I said, we also had problems in both of our family cases but in the end, justice prevailed and *Nobody, Let alone Law Enforcement, asked anybody to take down the volumious amounts of misinformation in our cases!
One, being VERY HIGH PROFILE!!
Why? Then, in this case? Once again, I never experienced this!
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“Not criticising LE, just wondering a bit.
She is home, she is with her family now, they have closure. Just wondering…..Redly,”
Chad, Well said. But, if there is not more information coming…soon enough it will be common knowledge on “the who did it” but nobody will be able to do anything because of those mistakes made. He will walk around smugly but it will catch up with him. Maybe just not within the time frame that we all want.
“Getting Justice is also having Patience!” A quote from fish!
*One thing I do know, Detectives that work on these cases tend to carry them in the hearts!!!! I can name a Philly one that became like family.
Chad: takin time to say thoughts r with you concerning your dad! Mine went in for surgery New Year’s Day. not right since my mom passed in Sept. Fathr-in-law passed on Dec 23, too. Take time to be there with him in the present! Comfort goes out to you. Maybe Skyler can make us both Grilled Cheese, Mouse can come too!
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“So, why if we are trying to locate a missing person would they not get this footage of her out to the public to help in identifying her if seen?”
I think that I would like to take a shot at this.
After looking at LOG for zillions of times, I could show you different girls that I believe to be Morgan but because there are not clear, full face shots of her, I am not sure.
Remember these are videos that the public posted. Most off cell phones, not good quality! So, if this is what I am relying on maybe then the outside cameras are foggy, due to rain and they cannot get a clear, unobstructed, undecernable image of her. Even though recently built and should be state of art.
I would love to take a try atlooking. I heard early on that the cameras were not working at the arena that night? Is this true?
But I believe, more importantly, there must have been photos available from the friends? One picture of what she looked like would have helped.
We put out photos that very night!!!
They went on the air that very night!!!
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“Comment by PamTX — February 1, 2010 @ 3:17 pm
1. Rt. 29 @ Rte 250
2. Rt 29 @ Fontaine
3. I-64 @ US 29 Exit 118
I am most interested in the 3 web-cam locations above (but again, not being from that area, I can’t tell if the cams even would be facing the correct direction)Blink, do you know if LE or any other agency involved in Morgan’s case has been in contact with Trafficland to see if web-cam tapes are saved from Oct. 17? Are there even “tapes” to be saved in web-cams?”
“I do, yes.B”
Everytime I go by, I wonder? I think I specifically said, not too long ago, I wondered about camera at exit 118.
Texas, Pam: it faces down, looking back to Cville as I am heading west home to Hburg. Red Hill local, might have a clear observation about these. He knows the area better than me. which, good point I say, maybe LE should form a “Community Task Force for Morgan”. I would volunteer and I say run a check, take my blood, fingerprints, whatever. Swear me to secrecy, make me sign a confidentiality agreement. I would in a heart beat! I’ll sit and lood at video!
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“Comment by barney1 — February 2, 2010 @ 6:50 am
I probably am wrong but I do not think sweet Morgan made it to the concert. I believe something went horribly wrong in Harrisonburg or close by and the FRIENDS know the facts.”
b: This is very frightening to even think this!
I have wanted to know all along where and with who.
I believe, this is when I got my ass handed to me by OYE! She states some crap about number one this or that. I just wanted to know what the behavior was like here, who was with them, cell records, plans and what not.
PHOTOS?!?!?, people!
When did they leave and were they at Sarah’s apt., as I think that they probably were but did they go somewhere else? What route did they take? Did they stop and pick someone else, unknown to all of us, in Crozet. Is he in LE or some offshoot? Is he older and had an infatuation on Morgan. Maybe she was not even aware? Loads of questions no answers but we are not on a need to know basis!
But, I live in this community and am proud to be here and I guess, OYE, would also know, that would make me available to be “vetted” for a jury in the so-called Number One Party School in VA!
Wait, is someone asking me if I could be a little biased?
No, I don’t believe that I am and yes, I could put everything aside that I heard and read for our wonderful Lady Justice!
Blink: I have a question. Would there have been enough time for him to “march” Morgan there as you say and get back to the concert?
Mile and half from Bass Farm and resident states half mile from Blandemar Estates? 15 minutes a mile, if in great shape. What about if you are trying to make a girl who is inhebriated & scared? Could someone carry this far? 120 lbs., alot to carry but someone in shape, with drive, determination and with lots of adrenaline running. Maybe?
sorry, my post is so long but just trying to knock a few ideas around. next time, i’ll be shorter. promise.
From what I can gather, one could drive up to the fence/treeline and we are only talking about yards where someone would have to walk. I personally believe they entered the break in the treeline to the left. It is an oddity in that landscape so I am of the opinion it is there for some sort of vehicle or tractor access.
B
There was a boot found behind a market? I don’t recall hearing anything about this before. Either Morgan was leaving a trail of breadcrumbs on the way to the farm or this was the perp’s/perps’ attempt to draw the searcher’s attention away from where her body really was located.
Another thought: we keep hearing about how hard it would be to navigate the farmland at night. What if it happened during the day, seemingly in the regular course of someone’s activity on the farm?
I am so lost and behind on posts — sorry if this is long (like that’s stopped me in the past)
First and foremost — Word Girl — Happy Returns of the Day (a Day late)
Didn’t know it was your b-day until I just read your post. My son, too, is an Aquarius — as was that dearing Luke Skywalker ! (As Yoda so wisely stated, he was always look to the future, do you)
Second: Crud to the Crud to the Crud
Because of my employment status is not updated yet — I do not have any time off due to my recent job elimination and return to employment — my company has a federal contract, we are employed under those rules (how I got my job back) — but since I do not have leave time, I can’t go to Morgan’s Memorial Service because she is not a relative : ( !!!!!
But — I am coming to C-ville on Feb 19th to go to John Paul jones to see Celtic Woman — anyone want to go w/ me — tickets are about $65 — I saw them in Richmond this past summer and they were fabulous —
But if you don’t want to go to the concert — anyone want to meet for dinner beforehand ? If it’s one of our “regulars” Blink, you certainly can give them my email and we’ll meet — Now that I’ve seen overhead views and can figure out where I’m going — I’d’ like to maybe leave something for Morgan on the bridge and see her last steps —
Also, I know it’s been discussed up thread before I even start reading, but what is the story on all those posts being deleted from findmorganharrington facebook ?
I know the public is not on the “need to know” list of LE, but come on, but they start to delete posts of possible “suspects” now — after the remains have been found and after any “bad guy” has read the gazillion previous posts on all the many many forums discussing this ???
I really don’t want to bash LE — but it might “impede” the investigation — as my dad used to say, seems like that statement is a day late and a dollar short —
and just from reading the c-vlle online page, I read a post that indicated the shirt was found “last fall” on/around 15th street — has that been completely debunked ? If the shirt was found, it might give some credence at least to the witness statements that someone came to their door, flashed a badge and said they were investigating ….
So we’re back down to the only “fact” we do know —
Morgan, thank God, has been found and is at home w/ her family.
Speaking of which — I meant to address this but I just forgot —
someone posted about even though they may not believe in God they’re still a good person —
Absolutely !
My child, and all of his group of friends, are self-proclaimed “atheists” —
I think he tells me that just to get a rise out of me, which I don’t take the bait.
I tell him it was my job as a parent to expose him to what is my belief and that once he has reached the age where he can make his own decisions, it’s up to him.
I also tell him at this age — now 19 — he doesn’t know what he is or he isn’t — he hasn’t lived long enough yet — like poor Morgan — big sigh —
I changed my feelings about God all the time in my “growing” years — after age 17 until — well, I decided I was never going past age 35, so we’ll say since then — wink, wink — terrible things would happen, and I’d question: how could God allow that — I’d pray really hard for something (usually some boy to call me — ha) — and it wouldn’t happen — the phone would ring, wrong boy ! — ha — so I’d decide there was no God —
I don’t mean to be preachy here, I really don’t – what I want to say is: I’ve settled comfortably in my relationship w/ God — I have come to believe God does possess great wisdom and understanding of humans — it’s the reason people come out babies and not teenagers, because if they came out teenagers first, I would have sold — no, paid — my child to the gypsies (no offense to gypsies anywhere) —
I believe God gave us the free will to believe whatever we wanted to believe — in my own believe, it’s what separates us from the angels –
I also came to the conclusion that I would never make an attempt to ever make someone believe as I do, or debate someone else’s personal beliefs, whatever they are —
So whomever made that post, just speaking for me personally, I never make the measure of a person by what they state, because “there ain’t no chicken, no matter how high they fly, don’t have to come home to roost” — the wise words of my friend’s mother (you will have to figure that one out yourselves, and when you do, you will say: ahhhh)
I look at the measure of a person by their heart, by their spirit —
if you are drawn to this board, I know the measure of your heart, of your spirit, w/out every knowing you : )
okay — once again, getting down from my soap box !!!
but what I meant to say in that big post, you are all — every one here, old or new — are so dear to me, every day I come here and am amazed by the posts — the different life experiences, the eloquence of your words —
and man, Word Girl, not only do you write beautifully, you cook in French, too — wow !!
Peace out, Sky : )
PSS: I tried to sign up for that google reader rss feed under firefox and just got lost … (as I am wont to do !)
PSS: I am terribly wicked at least one part of every single day — I adopted my dog, who is a 1 y/o female border collie — from a young family who had toddler children and very busy schedules — border collies need A LOT of attention, but they are also incredibly intelligent dogs. She had not had any training and was eating everything (she still does that here, too) — but she hadn’t had any vet care, and she is a pure bred w/ an impressive lineage going back to England —
anyway, she was here about 3 days, dogs roam free in this neighborhood, and immediately went into heat — and male dogs from everywhere came courting — especially this one old dog i called “Hound Dog” — I began referring to her suitors as “the boyfriends” —
she now, thank God, has been spayed, and the boys for the most part have ceased to come calling — but I still ask her, several times a day, if I have to confess the truth — Is that the boyfriend ?? Are the boyfriends outside ???
She goes crazy, she jumps up on the couch, puts her nose to the window and starts looking for the boyfriends, especially Hound Dog —
I laugh because it’s a riot — so, see, I do have a dark side : )
Blkink, I know, OT, but just wanted to let you all know, I am not perfect — Hard to believe, I know, but alas, tis true : )
#1065 Comment by jen What’s the deal with this GRH…I figured out his name and looked up all his offenses.
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Can I buy a vowel, please?
Somewhere above someone posted a link to a Youtube video of the band
“Here’s to the Long Haul”. I checked it out. If the info is accurate, the band (bluegrass type from Tenn, they have a web page and CD) they played at Anchoridge Farm on Dec 3rd 2009!! This means, Blinkers, that they were playing for a party in Dec while presumedly Morgan’s body was lying in the field less than a mile away!!!
Can you wrap your mind around that?
The video shows an older house, with old wallpaper and fireplace in the background. This HAS to be the rental house on the farm. Not nice enough to be the Bass’s residence, IMO.
Sooo – this to my mind confirms there WERE parties at that house, and to have the $$$ to pay for a band, there must have been a fairly major
party scene at that house during 2009 at some point.
There was more than cows going on at that farm. What part does this play in the puzzle? If LE is keeping this info quiet, I understand.
But we now have, I believe, hard evidence that people had parties in that house in 2009 on video.
Talk amongst yourselves.
Good band by the way, and seems to be a nice mellow scene. Three young musicians. Wonder who was at that party?
Ooohh FACTS. I love them!
Sherlock
Dear Blink,
would like to use the aerial showing the Morgan Harrington crime scene for our story this week, can you give permission or know who can? please contact me soonest,
many thanks
http://wasdmz2.courts.state.va.us/CJISWeb/CaseDetail.do
case CR09000603-00 arrested 10/19/09
Blink,
I sent too fast. That link will give his name completely. I don’t know if you want to do that. There is also speculation that he made a pretty damning statement to a friend about a blonde???
This individual is not a suspect in this case. The records are public, but everything else is speculation based on rumor and public record. I can say that there is no known connection to Morgan by this person at this time.
B
ConcernedBystander, I’m in the same boat. I’m trying to figure out who GRH is because apparently this guy is from Crozet? Chances are I’ve seen him before, and this really gives me the creeps. I checked the VSP SO list of everyone in the state of Virginia with the last name beginning with H…and I do not believe Morgan would willingly have gotten into a car with any one of these monsters. These are some scarey f***s. Do these people drive taxis and limos? I’m sure the young ones can somehow pass for normal and stand in an audience with other music lovers…maybe even make friends…stay in touch, and agree to meet again at other concerts, festivals, and party spots. I don’t know.
Hate to think that Morgan may have been tricked into being friends with one of these freaks.
S Jones: Feb 2nd 2010 2:00am
S. Jones: Your posts are creating some definite interest here. One could surmise you may be an attorney? Defense?
Below are some of your posts.
(snippet)
” I strongly believe that campus police did cover up and that local and state really did believe that she ran a way. Typical sterio type. Metalica girl all drugged up runs off to the party life with the band.
As stated by B they were shocked when the body was found.”
* S Jones: In your opinion, do you think that LE was NOT looking for a body the last 90 days, and had a working theory of Morgan being a “run away with the band?” This is a fairly bold statement. Could that support or does that explain the lack of enthusiasm for searches?
I believe that they did use helicopter and search dogs early on in this case. A couple of additional searches did place after that, but it appeared to only happen when a verified lead or tip took them there.
S Jones:
You also go on to say:
(snippet)
” I believe I could get the perp off as long as No GUN Shot or Knife with Blood is found.”
I see what you are saying here. Gun shot wound and bloody knife are the only (2) ways to nail a murder charge?
( again, you go on to state)
“The Feds need to take over.
Kidnapping could be proved with tree cameras not murder. Rape maybe, but murder, it will be hard to prove and let it stand up in appeal. A good trial lawyer, all you need is to get one to have the smallest doubt.”
addition inquiries from fellow posters that have posed great questions, that I too would like to hear your insight on:
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Comment by marywhunt — February 2, 2010 @ 9:57 am
to S.Jones, post 1053. I appreciate your insight. Could you expound on why “kidnapping, not murder, could be proved with tree cameras”..?
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Comment by redly — February 2, 2010 @ 10:59 am
S Jones — what do you think UVA police intentionally covered up? You must have some specifics in mind for that type of accusation.
Mary love your humor.
Comment by mary — February 1, 2010 @ 11:50 pm
ya’ll, please forgive my language but they are having a circle jerk over at insession regarding this GRH. According to them he is already incarcerated. Tomorrow around 2:00 all the websites are suppposed to be “taken down” and after that we’ll know something…This is mary, reporting from the field…all I know…
Lol. Oye Vey.
Thanks for your report Mary, teehee
B
Now that is funny!
Mary learned her new phrase and I smacked her hand chop chop, sorry Mary, you have to understand, that stuff grows like algae.
B
WAYNE TOWNSEND!
You stated that we should come straight to you to ask any questions!
Well, I am here on BOC because I do not facebook!
Did Law Enforcement at any time, question you about what Morgan looked like or how she was acting, when you saw her? Liam posted that you said you were never asked.
You are a witness to her being there!
Let me make this PERFECTLY clear and say that it is not because I believe anything neferious about you.
It is because it would seem that they missed a good deal of very important information from someone has reliable as you. EMT’s are known to be able to evaluate a situation very rapidly!
Wayne, Call them now and tell them what you saw. Think back, go to a peaceful place, calm place.
Did you see anyone that could have been leading Morgan or somebody behind her? These is confusion on who actually was there, concerning the other groups that went. I looked at hours of LOG videos.
People even question if she was there at JPJA!
Also, since you were honest with us and we all apologized and thanked each other for posting. Was it possible to just walk around the arena and by this I mean, could people just walk on and off the floor area? Do JPJA personnel let that happen?
To refresh your memory, if need be…
This is some snippets of our discussions.
“Comment by Wayne — January 22, 2010 @ 1:14 am
then just come out and speak to me directly
Comment by fish — January 22, 2010 @ 1:38 pm
Comment by Wayne — January 23, 2010 @ 12:18 am
1. Before I speak anything about the night of the concert and my intentions I’d like to speak directly with Fish.
2. I hope that is what you were asking of me and if it’s not please feel free to continue.
3. Comment by fish — January 23, 2010 @ 10:22 am
Comment by Wayne — January 23, 2010 @ 12:18 am
I apologize for my actions in my earlier post.
Wayne: Thank you for stepping up to the plate!
Somehow, in a strange way, I believe you.”
Blink: thanks for field info.
sorry i broke a promise and did another long post. But, I would really would like to know. Are we running out of ideas and discussions?
Could StarJ, be right and many balls were dropped? In my experiences, some do drop but not all! OK, I’ll shut up now.