Morgan Harrington Murder: Rumors Of A Suspects Arrest
Charlottesville, VA– This afternoon, originating on a VT Athletics Site rumors clogged the web that a suspect was placed under arrest for the murder of Morgan Harrington. After my 20th comment in 10 minutes and 12th email inquiry about it, I went to the source.
..There has been no arrest. It is an unfounded rumor and I have no idea how or where it started. I can only assume it stemmed from the fact that we completed our investigation of the crime scene at Anchorage Farm early this afternoon, I guess I will probably have to put out an email this afternoon..”
– Corrine Geller, PR Manager for VSP to Blink
As exclusively reported yesterday on blinkoncrime.com, it is expected that the and VSP upcoming conversations with those on the list with permission to hunt on Anchorage Farm, will propel the investigation into the murder of Morgan Harrington quickly.
However, Virginia State Police are not discussing whether or not they have a person of interest or suspect in this case.
There is however, unreleased new information and new evidence gleaned from the crime scene. VSP will not disclose what personal effects were found with Morgan’s remains at this time.
The viral arrest rumor was not the only odd occurrance today.
In what appears to be an unrelated coincidence, an explosive device was detinated on the train tracks close to James Madison University this morning. A nearby dorm has been evacuated in connection with materials found at the scene, and a criminal investigation has been launched by the ATF.
JMU is the school several of Morgan’s friends attend, and from where the group departed to attend the Metallica Concert that fateful night of October 17, 2009.
Check back to blinkoncrime.com for updates to this developing story.
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Suzee, thank you for the link to insession.
Mary, sorry for putting you on the spot,don’t feel obligated.
Rabbit19, so glad you are okay.
Lakeluver, thank you for that research. Oye still is on my mind also. Has been since discovery of Morgan.
Observer, thank you for again giving us an easy to follow comparison between homicide and murder.
Wiccan is not like devil worship or the like. I do not believe there is a connection unless, to someone who is dabbling in the occult and terms themselves wrongly as a wiccan. I find it strange certain things keep coming back up in conversation with no way to link back to source.
I thought I had finally figured out how to do rss feeds. I guess not…
#44 left out the word release,”info to release yet. anyway the other artcles are wording it differently,hbday word girl!
roageo says:
February 2, 2010 at 11:37 pm
“wpgmouse,
“Did that hat reveal anything? I was looking inside of it with you….
roageo,
Not really sure. But going back to the findmorgan.com site now,
I realize that these words of Gil Harrington’s were posted just the DAY BEFORE her daughter was found. A “disappeared” Morgan “reappeared”, so to speak, almost like magic. IMO, her words “got to” someone.
http://findmorgan.com/category/family-blog
[Gil Harrington’s thoughts from Janaury 24th
On January - 26 - 2010
31 COMMENTS
January 24, 2010
"3 months! Despite the length of time Morgan has been gone I remain hopeful. Part of me is waiting to be surprised. Waiting for God to pull the rabbit out of the hat and bring Morgan home.
I remember that the light always returns, it cannot help but return. Wil the light of my life return soon? I cannot imagine that all the water of Morgan’s potential is to run down the drain and be wasted. Can it really play out like that?
Come home soon baby. 2 4 1 "]
O to the T:
My girlz -
When the moooooon is in the Seventh Hooouse, and Jupiter uhhh-ligns with Maaars;
Then peeeeace will guide the plaaa-nets, and luhhh-ove will steer the stars…
Lol. That is no online Univ of Phoenix smartazz snarkalicious, that is Ivy league
B
suek stop while you are ahead, a picture of someone with a Pantera shirt is hardly oddly prophetic. And do some research it would be hard for Pantera to play a show as you say since the guitar player was shot on stage several years ago.
posted 2/2/2010 @ 8:41pm–BlinkTime
Observer,
Thanks for clarifying the definition of homicide and murder. I was just about to take that daunting task upon my onion-steeped brain. I think your quote from Steve Thompson, posted at Associated Content in 2006 was very well stated, even though he didn’t define the legal terms, he did describe the different takes on “guilty mind” and “guilty act.”
I only wish you would have made that attribution. You’re a smart lady and I saw that you used quote mark’s for Steve’s definition, but mistakes happen and, and the main thing is we have a good understanding–and a quest for more legal-term study!
Not trying “catch you out” but many of us research the same words and questions from time to time.
Thankfully, no one holds all the cards!
Oh, dang, I got distracted and forgot the link!
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/73160/homicide_vs_murder_the_differences.html?cat=17
AH!hahaha…
Well B, once I realized I was amongst Aquarians, I was able to relax a little…
lol, j2k,
ruMom, that song’s for you, too!
bmmp didi bmmp bmmp (beat boxing)
Blink,
Absolutely love the new “Your comment is awaiting moderation” feature.
Really user-friendly-appreciative.
Thank you for that.
On a serious note, a Tip of the Hat to the journalist putting out something worthy of the attention-to-detail Morgan’s case receives –
Ladies and gentlemen: Courteney Stuart.
A skilled writer, for sure. But the mark of a truly good journalist is the ability – matched with the empathy – to get quotes like this:
From: http://www.readthehook.com/blog/index.php/2010/02/01/multiple-riddles-harringtons-body-creates-new-mysteries-angles/
…
“While (Gil) remembers Morgan’s radiant beauty in life, she has memorably discussed the beauty she saw even in her daughter’s “lovely bones” and explains her decision to view images of her daughter’s remains.
“If Morgan’s bones are around, it is my duty— my right— to see them,” she says. “It is my honor.”
And, she notes, Morgan’s death is not the first terrible loss with which she’s coped. When her sister died at home following an illness, Gil says she did not want her body to be “whisked away.” Instead, she recalls, she laid beside her “as she stiffened and turned to alabaster.”
She knows this is not the American way to cope with death, and credits time spent living among other cultures, including five goodwill medical trips to Africa, for giving her an appreciation for life as well as death.
“You don’t pretty it up,” she says. “You look at it.”
As the investigation moves forward, she says, she will stay focused on keeping Morgan’s memory alive rather than on revenge or anger.
“That kind of emotion is like acid in a person; it chews you up,” she says. “Punishment is not mine to give.”
[Follow-up]
I don’t think I will *ever* forget these four words:
“It is my honor.”
(I am truly in awe of this woman.)
I just saw this story online that her death was ruled a homicide. It seems to me like this should have been common sense since she was young and healthy and disappeared under such shady circumstances.
I am no detective however, although I was related to a career officer, but it seems like a lot of things with this case make no sense, starting from how she left and got outside the arena and how the friends drove her car and just left and I can go on and on.
Here is the link:
http://www.wdbj7.com/Global/story.asp?S=11923619
I hope they catch the pos responsible for this horrific crime. I am so angry I am shaking. I will pray and meditate again for MH and her family and for LE to catch the bad guy or bad girls.
Justice for Morgan….And Justice For All!
I still can’t shake the thought that the kickee witness was somehow involved. If he has been eliminated as a poi, please let me know. My latest thought; another “elements of truth to a lie”.
He stated Morgan bent her arm and said to him “Let’s go” which I have a really hard time believing. Maybe HE was the one who grabbed Morgan by the arm and said “Let’s go” when INSIDE the arena and that is how Morgan ended up outside. Did someone posing as security grab her by the arm and escort her outside where she would be vulnerable and then follow her out a few minutes later? Is that how she ended up outside and sustained the cut on her face? If she was going to the washroom by herself, it is conceivable it could have happened this way given her size. I’m sure someone would have seen something if this happened however if the concert was just starting perhaps there were areas in which she was walking where there weren’t people around. I don’t know where the washrooms were in relation to her seat or if all exit doors had crowd control on them. Anyway just another thought.
Yeah. And it’s Ivy League. Heck to the Blink.
Gil is a deeply intuitive woman and I admire her beyond words. To be able to reveal your innermost feelings to the world, your absolute agony without hurling anger along with it is amazing.
I thought I was a freak of nature, for sure I was considered odd amongst my brothers and father when my mother died last year. She had melted to a mere shadow of her formerly robust self, as her last breath was taken I knew that her almost skeletal face was still my heart, it was my “right” to lay next to her, waiting with her until she was taken to her next journey.
Thank you J2K for sharing the article that quotes Gil. Oddly it was validating to me. In a twist of fate, sadly I can thank Morgan for that. What an amazing family.
Diggity. We’ve got em all here. Those watery Pisces, daring Aries, quiet-feeling Cancers, leaping Leo’s…
Oh, yeah. We got Christians, Budds, Athes, Taos, Jewish, so many more. We got people. We got Blink.
Our people: They feel. They think. They write. They don’t care if someone writes them back. They have questions. They try to get the answers. They do the work. They don’t ask if someone can clue them in.
They also know they are vulnerable, never right, in the grace of the universe. They want to know they matter. The flexible minds and best writers get a lot of attention, but there are some of us who are watching. We are watching and waiting for any clue, in any form, and will not play any games.
We read between the lines. And we look between the rows. We blend our rural and urban and don’t think twice about bringing justice to anyone responsible for a crime, especially crimes against children.
We might wanna make a mission statement, but that might just be redundant.
Dear BOC family and Blink I was trying to explain to my shrink ( yes it does rhyme with Blink!) today why I was spending SO much time keeping up with this site ( Oh God bless dear Blink!) at the sometimes annoyance of family members not to mention the kitchen is full of unwashed dishes I just pile on a butcher block and take out new ones until the cupboards are bare …..lovely old home, old kitchen no fr….g dishwasher, grrrr!!
I looked at my therapist like a deer in the headlights today when she said “inteeeeeresting….we will get back to that in our next session. ” Hmmmm it is not like I don’t have plenty of my own current “stuff ” to get on with perhaps that may have something to do with her “point. ” I take some solace in the fact that their are many others here like me on BOC sort of my “Partners in Crime” so to speak ….. except we are partners in solving crime and we have been forever touched by “Shiny Morgan” and Dan, Gil and Alex.
Big sigh and internal WOW ….go figure is all I can say tonite no goblet to clink but if I did New Zealands’ own “Oyster Bay” Pinot Noir would do …..hope you can find that somewhere near you Blink you deserve to put your feet up for a minute and stare into a glass of red.
Enquirer a fellow kiwi aye, well I never, two of us here amongst the usual suspects.
Dakota I was very glad to see you back.
Mom.3 am always happy to hear from you.
Skyler you keep our spirits up and you have such a way with words.
Fish you bring so much oxygen to our “think Tank” and make me laugh out loud
You too J2K…..Localcvillegirl……Suz,,,,susanm….wpgmouse…..Chad……Sherlock…..Wordgirl..
And of course our sage and kind Qbserver. Sorry for those friends I missed too tired tonight.
But want you all to know I am never far away and try read every post just don’t have anything super relevant to add.
It has been nagging at my mind that Morgan may have met her demise elsewhere and been placed in the field and there may have been more than one POI. This bothers me as I pray her end was swift but sadly we do not know enough yet.
If I was closer I would be at the church for Morgans’ Memorial Service and at The Roanoke Hotel for the reception for sure, snow permitting. I would be hugging all of my new friends at BOC that will be there for the rest of us.. I do hope you will tell us all about it.
Goodnight friends, Godspeed Morgan, tomorrow is another day for Lady Justice to be served.
Dakota 10:31 PM and Blink–=good catch. I was trying to think of way to warn those enthusiastic Blinkers.
Because you post here you are not safe. You are not invincible. I love community and I love the spirit of getting together for a cause. But what the heck! You think that everyone who blogs here is safe?
Please consult Gift of Fear.
I just wanted to point out the every state has its own criminal code. I thought I would post some relevant Virginia statutes (all references to the Code of Virginia):
§ 18.2-33. Felony homicide defined; punishment.
The killing of one accidentally, contrary to the intention of the parties, while in the prosecution of some felonious act other than those specified in §§ 18.2-31 and 18.2-32, is murder of the second degree and is punishable by confinement in a state correctional facility for not less than five years nor more than forty years.
§ 18.2-32. First and second degree murder defined; punishment.
Murder, other than capital murder, by poison, lying in wait, imprisonment, starving, or by any willful, deliberate, and premeditated killing, or in the commission of, or attempt to commit, arson, rape, forcible sodomy, inanimate or animate object sexual penetration, robbery, burglary or abduction, except as provided in § 18.2-31, is murder of the first degree, punishable as a Class 2 felony.
All murder other than capital murder and murder in the first degree is murder of the second degree and is punishable by confinement in a state correctional facility for not less than five nor more than forty years.
§ 18.2-31. Capital murder defined; punishment.
The following offenses shall constitute capital murder, punishable as a Class 1 felony:
1. The willful, deliberate, and premeditated killing of any person in the commission of abduction, as defined in § 18.2-48, when such abduction was committed with the intent to extort money or a pecuniary benefit or with the intent to defile the victim of such abduction;
2. The willful, deliberate, and premeditated killing of any person by another for hire;
3. The willful, deliberate, and premeditated killing of any person by a prisoner confined in a state or local correctional facility as defined in § 53.1-1, or while in the custody of an employee thereof;
4. The willful, deliberate, and premeditated killing of any person in the commission of robbery or attempted robbery;
5. The willful, deliberate, and premeditated killing of any person in the commission of, or subsequent to, rape or attempted rape, forcible sodomy or attempted forcible sodomy or object sexual penetration;
6. The willful, deliberate, and premeditated killing of a law-enforcement officer as defined in § 9.1-101 or any law-enforcement officer of another state or the United States having the power to arrest for a felony under the laws of such state or the United States, when such killing is for the purpose of interfering with the performance of his official duties;
7. The willful, deliberate, and premeditated killing of more than one person as a part of the same act or transaction;
8. The willful, deliberate, and premeditated killing of more than one person within a three-year period;
9. The willful, deliberate, and premeditated killing of any person in the commission of or attempted commission of a violation of § 18.2-248, involving a Schedule I or II controlled substance, when such killing is for the purpose of furthering the commission or attempted commission of such violation;
10. The willful, deliberate, and premeditated killing of any person by another pursuant to the direction or order of one who is engaged in a continuing criminal enterprise as defined in subsection I of § 18.2-248;
11. The willful, deliberate, and premeditated killing of a pregnant woman by one who knows that the woman is pregnant and has the intent to cause the involuntary termination of the woman’s pregnancy without a live birth;
12. The willful, deliberate, and premeditated killing of a person under the age of fourteen by a person age twenty-one or older;
13. The willful, deliberate, and premeditated killing of any person by another in the commission of or attempted commission of an act of terrorism as defined in § 18.2-46.4;
14. The willful, deliberate, and premeditated killing of a justice of the Supreme Court, a judge of the Court of Appeals, a judge of a circuit court or district court, a retired judge sitting by designation or under temporary recall, or a substitute judge appointed under § 16.1-69.9:1 when the killing is for the purpose of interfering with his official duties as a judge; and
15. The willful, deliberate, and premeditated killing of any witness in a criminal case after a subpoena has been issued for such witness by the court, the clerk, or an attorney, when the killing is for the purpose of interfering with the person’s duties in such case.
If any one or more subsections, sentences, or parts of this section shall be judged unconstitutional or invalid, such adjudication shall not affect, impair, or invalidate the remaining provisions thereof but shall be confined in its operation to the specific provisions so held unconstitutional or invalid.
§ 18.2-30. Murder and manslaughter declared felonies.
Any person who commits capital murder, murder of the first degree, murder of the second degree, voluntary manslaughter, or involuntary manslaughter, shall be guilty of a felony.
http://leg1.state.va.us/000/lst/LS434419.HTM
They may be saying that she was accidently killed during some other “felonious act” (kidnapping?, robbery?, some type of drug activity?)
Guys- there is a difference between manner of death classification and what someone would ultimately be charged with. I do not think there will be anything less than a murder charge for starters.
B
I’m an aquarius too…on the cusp of pisces.
*** B ***
Is there any possibility that the person who committed this crime may have purposefully placed Morgan in an open field because they wanted and thought she would eventually be seen/found?
I have absolutely no farming knowledge. When I think of an open field with grass waist high, then, I also might think that the grass would die in the winter or be cut eventually.
It just seems that the perp would have taken more care to conceal her body if he did not want her discovered. (..unless he was in a big hurry and feared he might be seen).
There just seems to be something that is amiss about the discovery location….something not adding up, IMO.
I hate to speculate, but based on the Virginia Felony Homicide Statute, it’s sounding like someone gave/sold her some illegal drugs, she OD’ed and she was dumped on the farm.
Again, this is just speculation based upon the ME’s finding and the Virginia Felony Homicide Statute cited above.
I could be wrong.
It’s possible that the ME uses the term “homicide” to include all murders — the dictionary definition rather than the statutory definition. Does anyone know?
Blink, can you please replace my 1:01 a.m. comment with this one?
I still can’t shake the thought that the kickee witness was somehow involved. My latest thought involves another “element of truth to a lie” theory.
The witness referred to above stated Morgan bent her arm and said to him “Let’s go” which I have a really hard time believing. Maybe HE was the one who grabbed Morgan by the arm and said “Let’s go” when INSIDE the arena and that is how Morgan ended up outside. Did he, or someone else, posing as security grab her by the arm and escort her outside where she would be vulnerable? Is that how she sustained a cut to her face and/or ended up outside? If she was going to the washroom by herself, it is conceivable it could have happened this way given her size. It has been reported she had been drinking and appeared “wobbly” so she may have felt she was being “kicked” (there’s that word again) out of the arena for that reason and may not have resisted as a result (also may not have resisted due to shock over what was happening). I’m sure someone would have seen something if this happened however if the concert was just starting perhaps there were areas in which she was walking where there weren’t people around. I don’t know where the washrooms are in relation to the seat she had or if all exit doors had crowd control on them. Anyway just another thought.
Liz 2/2 7:04
I think that Observer and others answered your question re: homicide vs. murder. But since your question came so close to the ME’s announcement this afternoon, I wanted to point out that the ME uses the term homicide when a person has died “at the hands of another”, regardless of intent or what the police find etc. The ME can’t really say whether or not a homicide = murder (homicide w/ criminal intent). That’s LE’s job to piece together and then charge the person accordingly. The police haven’t said anything about intent so I guess Morgan’s case isn’t officially a murder investigation…yet.
RE: Word Girl, 2/3, 12:21am: Apologies, Word Girl. You’re absolutely right, i.e., I put the statements in quotes to denote attribution, but failed to include the source/name. Will be more diligent in the future.
I so wish at least one more card was revealed in the MH deck. I know…in time.
Back to shoveling snow now…
They may not have the answers:
“A spokeswoman for the medical examiner’s office said the office is not yet able to release information on how Harrington was killed.
Forensic experts say it could take weeks, or longer, to make that determination because of the decomposition of her body over the past three months. If, as her family believes, her body was left in the hayfield the night she disappeared, it has endured warm and cold weather, rain and snow storms and possibly the activity of animals and insects.
All of those factors could “make it a lot more difficult to determine the cause and manner of death,” said Emil Moldovan, an adjunct instructor of criminal justice at Radford University and former death investigator in the Los Angeles County Medical Examiner’s Office.
For instance, Moldovan said, if Harrington were bludgeoned or shot to death, that might be readily apparent to examiners, but if she were strangled, there would be little evidence outside the possible fracture of the tiny hyoid bone in the neck. The skeletal and tissue remains also might not show any sign of a stabbing.”
http://www.roanoke.com/news/roanoke/wb/235212
justiceformorgan-With regard to restroom facilities at JPJ, they are numerous and a short walk from each seating section will bring one into view (universal symbol for restroom posted over the doors.) These restrooms are located in a basically circular interior corridor on each level immediately outside the entrances to the seating areas. Some of the facilities are no more than 5 to 8 stalls, some are huge, probably with 20 or more stalls and also have comfortable chairs for sitting. Someone speculated that Morgan left the arena because lines were long between sets. This reasoning does not hold water (no pun intended.) Any attempt, imo, to reach the outside porta-potties would take much longer than standing in line waiting to use a well-lit bathroom with mirrors and handwashing facilities. Now I was not at the Metallica concert, but for every other event I have attended at the arena, the entrances/exits are always manned during the events. For some reason, our seats seem to always be located nearest what’s referred to as the student entrance for sporting events. This entrance faces directly onto Massie Road. I have always seen 2 people manning that door, with a uniformed person (think a police officer, but haven’t paid close attention) standing by. Since it seems Morgan left between performances, before the main act, I just cannot imagine there were so many people leaving that she could have been hustled out a door without being noticed unless she was offering no resistance. Others have stated that warnings are given that you will not be able to re-enter if you leave prior to the end of a show. I don’t know whether or not that is always true. Our family mantra is that we buy a ticket for the entire game/show, and we just do not leave early. Obviously, something happened that caused her to end up outside, but I just do not believe the need for a bathroom was that reason. Could she have walked outside to smoke, possibly, but the designated smoking areas are on the same level as where her seats were located. I’m not familiar with those areas, but from what I have heared, they are outside areas, but do not have free access to the parking lots. If I understand correctly, smokers actually have to come back into the arena in order to leave the facility from the smoking areas. Someone who is actually familiar with these areas might want to comment. I believe that she either left the arena to meet someone, was coerced outside by someone from within, was ejected which I think LE has denied, or she was disoriented and didn’t heed warnings that she would not be able to return. I agree with others who have posted, whatever caused her to leave could very well be key to solving this mystery.
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Does Virgina allow the judge to give the jury the option of murder 1 and 2.
If the perp traveled to the arena knowing she would be there murder 1.
If it was random without a link to other crimes murder 2.
Weapon will also be considered.
Gun, Knife or drug. leans toward ,murder 1.
Rock towards murder 2.
By hand, well that gets iffy.
Could a prompt declaration of a homicide open any additional investigative or legal/procedural doors under VA statutes such as use of a grand jury or expanding/expediting subpoena options? I am not familiar with the law there.
I guess I’m alone in totally being able to picture Morgan playfully hooking kickee’s arm with a “let’s go” (i.e., let’s blow this Popsicle stand) and (playfully again) kicking at him or even making contact with a light kick after he balked. (Or did she really nail him hard with a kick?) And then later, if that’s our heroine kicking a leg with the four guys, perhaps she is recounting the tale.
I dunno, but to me, it’s feasible that it happened just like the kickee said (embellished a bit for the news or his GF, mebbe).
Yes the Harringtons are very great people . This is a Greek Tragety . I only come on here to give my amateur input on thoughts about the specifics of what occured and not to get mushy mushy . Thoughts of the day are that MH randomly met someone with not unlike the looks of those in the band . Middle,aged,degenerate,jail bird type ,with a little clump of hair on his chin . Interesting that WT has that appearance , she seemed drawn to that look . I understand that band draws those similiar people . Often they are exactly what they appear to be i would expect . Someone was wondering aloud as to why she was found in the open field . The areal shows the field was actually a closed smaller field surrounded by trees . Going by vehicle that would be where a natural ending would be . Just a little lane to get into this opening . He went over to an edge turned around facing the lane into the spot . If someone on the land were to follow him up in a vehicle the perp would wait for this someone to approach and the perp would take off out the little lane and gone . I expect that MH was left in this little opening as he didn’t want to go into the wooded area at night . Branches can do damage to your eyes . She was not burried as he had no shouvel . The crime was not planned nor was the disposal planned. Someone going to intentionally drop off a deceased victum there would take some planning which would mean they had time to get a shouvel etc .
No, and I redacted the post so it is no longer there.
B
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B, FYI, Bob-Dog’s Feb 2 at 10:45 is still there. Maybe you redacted certain details? But the part about plans is still there.
I am glad Dakota and Blink spoke up about this issue. No one wants to fear monger but let’s learn from what happened. Love and the best of intentions to you all.
Those of you who recently mentioned Virginia and wanting to visit: You made me so happy with your comments. I love my home state so much, from top to bottom and side to side; I have a lump in my throat as I type. Many call Virginia “God’s country,” and if you visit you’ll understand why. (I feel that way about southern Utah and that area, too.) Please go and know that I appreciated your kind comments in this face of this scary investigation.
(BTW I am still reading and thinking and marveling over Gil Harrington and most of you, but I have come up with nothing new to say on the case. So except for this post I’m being quiet.)
yoshi is correct — the ME doesn’t decide/announce if it is murder, capital murder, 1st second degree etc. It just determines if it is homicide, suicide, accidental death etc. and then cause of death, time of death etc. What type of crime it is (murder etc) is up to the prosecutor to suggest and then the finder of fact (judge or jury) to decide.
Just a comment about the Wicca references that keep coming up- the date of Morgan’s disappearance is too far away from Samhain (Halloween) to have much ritual significance. Those events are generally communal and planned far ahead of time, AND Wiccans in general, are not bloodthirsty. Now, some other groups are, but I don’t see anything to indicate anything other than an individual acting in an assault and murder, and no dissassociative fugue theory sounds at all plausble to me.
I’m Sagittarius. We’re known to be embarrassingly impulsive at times.
Wow, spent last week in the hospital with a nasty infection, no computer access until last Friday when I got home. Of course, one of the first things I did was log on here, and imagine my shock/horror/sadness/relief/many other feelings when I heard that dear Morgan had been found. I have been trying desperately to catch up on comments, but I went straight to this thread, haven’t read any others that were put up since the 25th.
I’d like to offer my heartfelt condolences to the Harrington family, we were all hoping for a better conclusion than this, I am so sorry.
I apologize if this has been brought up before, but I was wondering if there are facilities at the RV lot to clean up/wash off a vehicle? I don’t see how this BG could have gone where he did on a rainy night without some mud/grass getting on his tires, at the very least. We had a very brutal triple murder in our area a few years ago. The perp turned out to be a 16 year old boy who stabbed his friend and the friend’s parents in the middle of the night. The kid apparently washed up on the way home at a local car wash, so that’s why his mom didn’t see any blood on him. The kid’s dad turned him in after about a month, but had he not, it would still be an unsolved crime. Did Morgan’s BG have to go back to the arena afterwards, so he knew people would see his vehicle and question why it was so dirty. Maybe he hosed it down in the RV lot, cleaned himself up a bit, chucked the purse, and continued with his evening.
The location of the remains, imho, says that it is a local person, familiar with the surrounding farmland, roads, trails, woods. No way an out-of-towner would go off-roading like that in unfamiliar territory, too risky.
The placement in the “meadow-like” area did make me wonder if it was a tragic accident, and she was placed there by someone who cared for her, like she was put in a peaceful setting?
Lastly, in the local murder I mentioned above, the perp’s mom said, in hindsight, she remembered he was throwing up the day after the crime, sick all day. Someone needs to think back to that time and try to recall a friend/family member who may have been very ill a day or two after Morgan’s disappearance.
catching up quick during my break from work –
J2K, I will be singing that song all day … I can see in my mind’s eye the 5th Dimension performing that song — I was a little kid when it came out and had no idea what it meant, but I thought it was so cool —
I am a lofty Libra — which is why I can never make up my mind about who, what, when and how — but I know that eventually these scales will balance and we will have our answers —
I actually was friends once upon a time w/ someone who was very close friends to Elizabeth Kubler-Ross — who wrote the ground-breaking, at the time, book on death, and how the celebration of death — I am part Native American, and in the Native American culture, they mourn birth and celebrate death as a return to Creator —
If Morgan’s mission in this life was to spread light, she more than fulfilled her purpose. Evil tried to extinquish that light, and instead only caused it to glow brighter all around the world.
I am so sorry I can’t be at her memorial on Friday, but with the weather forecast, even if I didn’t have work issues, I may not have been able to make it. But I was thinking last night of what could I add to her memorial when I do go to the C-vlle on the 19th.
I am a “self-proclaimed” artist — meaning, if someone else saw what I do, they may classify it as junk — ha
But I paint animals on rocks — it’s so much cuter than it sounds. My first attempt was my cat Samantha — I found this perfect little rock one day digging in my garden — and it’s absolutely adorable.
We have that picture of Morgan holding “Crazy Dog” — I’m going to paint Crazy Dog and leave him on the bridge, w/ a little “2 4 1″ painted on his tummy.
I wholly agree w/ Word Girl — we are a magnificent group of diverse people, who don’t see ourselves as diverse — we see each other as beautiful lights come together for a single cause — and for that, Morgan, I thank you —
And Hummingbird, I am so glad to know I’m not the only one w/ dishes in the sink — I have a dishwasher, but it’s an “apt size” one — you can’t use plates bigger than 10 inches — well, all of my plates are bigger than 10 inches — I finally had to break down and do dishes last night as my cupboard was bare, too — ha
And I’d better scoot back to work….
” When the moon is in the 7th house … la la la “”"”
Just a thought as to why MH might have went outside (other than she was escorted). Being someone who partied as a youngster- Maybe she was a bit too intoxicated.. head spins…nasuea..etc- It was probably hot and crowded in the arena. She told her friends “I’m going to the bathroom” which in reality she “needed a minute” to go get some air. I’ve left a party or bar, etc., many times in my life to go outside for some fresh air.. try to “sober up” when I suddenly got a little too intoxicated. Maybe she tried the restroom… it was crowded, she fell and hit her chin, started to cry a bit (embarrassment, whatever)… but decided to go outside for air.. to be alone for a minute and gather herself. Maybe after she did that she did feel much better- hence the reportedly “normal sounding” phonecall to her friends. Out of embarrassment or not wanting to sound like a “lightweight” (kids do this) she didnt mention her “moment” to her friends.
Word Girl re: Mission Statement/PSA
I think we’ve got one now, WG – and new readers can learn it/know it/live it by checking out your post @ Feb. 3, 2010, 1:25 a.m. (BST).
hummingbird re: Partners in Crime
Thanks for singing your sweet thoughts across the planet to us. I would clink Goblets to an Oyster Bay pinot with you any time.
As would Blink (of that I’m quite sure).
roageo re: body’s location (February 3, 2010 at 4:15 am)
you should read Rob’s post from Feb 2 around 7 p.m. He offers an amazing, in-depth assessment/profile of the possible killer, in-line with what you’re steppin’ in.
I’d also like to point out that it’s curious there was no notable matted-down trail seen last fall (that we’re aware) through an adjacent hayfield toward the tree patch – regardless of the direction the perp brought her in from… there was apparently no mark associated with their significant movement detected by the highland residents and workers bordering the property.
Or, one has to think this degenerate would at least have been *concerned* with leaving such a visible mark in a central valley. I mean, why not drive her to/deposit her in a place that can be reached without tromping through a vast stretch of tall, open vegetation, risking incriminating exposure? That area of the county offers deep forests, mountainous terrain, and secluded access points to water…
I’m thinking she may have been deposited there more recently, once the fields were dead and barren. Still stumped on this one, though: Why?
Has it been confirmed by LE that the purse strap was broken? I only remember hearing them say in the beginning that nothing was unusual about it.
P.S. Sorry if any of my questions are old news- I will tell ‘ya I spent 8-10 hours reading these boards before I ever posted… and didnt see answers or confirmation to some of my questions. I am trying to gather the extremely few CONFIRMED facts to formulate a hypothesis… you start getting into rumors and “he said, she said” and you’ll get further off track. The same goes for my question pertaining to JPJ security noticing her injury/condition upon trying to re-enter the arena. I’m trying to confirm her “stste-of-mind” at that point. If someone who knows could take 2 seconds and answer that for me, I’d greatly appreciate it.
I posted on this about a week ago RE two possible scenarios…
i cant get away from a couple of things RE kickee…
1-outside waiting for friends(with no re-entry, he was never in concert–possible he NEVER entered concert, MAY have NEVER had tix)
2-friends of what nature?? Buddys?? Mixed sexes?? GIRLfriend?!?
3-the immediate phone call to GF?!?(others have found this odd) The kick very well could have embarrassed this guy greatly, or pissed him off, or both…The immediate call to GF could have been to expedite HER arrival to confront this “drunk bi***” who just kicked him…?!?
i am not ruling out that a female was involved at least on the periphary…
i also think that a local scalper would have some opportunity in this case:
1-he would not be inside the venue, but on the outer edges of property trying to offload his tix(possibly encountering a wandering Morgan)
2-he would have tix to perhaps persuade Morgan that he could get her back in the venue
3-a built in reason for “hanging out” outside the concert venue
4-while i personally dont think that scalping is the crime of the century, it IS an illegal activity, which makes scalpers criminals to begin with…??
probably going to get raked over the coals on this but until this is solved, arent all things worth checking out??
was it to expedite her arriv
From the CBS newsplex in C-ville today, Wednesday: “A Richmond television station is reporting that the medical examiner has ruled Harrington’s death a homicide, but further details on the case have not yet been released. CBS19 spoke to the medical examiner’s office shortly before 5 p.m. Tuesday, and officials disputed the report, saying nothing has been released.”
Is this just parsing of words on behalf of the medical examiner’s office, or CBS trying to keep itself in the news, or did the Richmond t.v. station jump the gun/report something not ready for release?
last incomplete sentence should be redacted…”was it to expedite her arriv”…apparently i typed that twice??
If she was lured outside it would have been via cell phone . Now why would the perp leave this tell tale piece of evidence on the scene ?? Or bring it all the way back to the point of abduction after what he did to her .Especially when the phone may have been purposly disabled by him .He seemed to be phone savy . Also her three friends say she left to go to the washroom . Her facebook friends say the same story adding that the washroom was overloaded so she went to use the facilities by the RV lot . Her inside friends called her . She said she couldn’t get back in . Any and all reasons for going outside ,therefore,are nullified are not related to who she met up with .From the point of her trying to get back into the building puts us into a brand new ball game . I just hope LE was not into these conspiracy theories which lead nowhere .Any conspiracy theory i have seen here don’t seem to hold up to logic .
Georgie, glad you are okay. thank you for that story. What an awful decision to make as a parent, to turn your child in, for such a horrendous crime.
Slowroller,total amateur,
We all have went over every possible scenario we could think of, regarding Morgan finding her way out side. From she was meeting someone, to she was drunk, dizzy, sick, lost her way, was thrown out, someone played a joke on her ect. The reasons are numerous. The conclusions are none, the answer we have come up with to a certainty is -We do not know-.
Your thoughts are welcome and so are your perspectives. Please don’t feel offended if none of the regulars answer, or comment on your theories. We have thought and rethought, and still remain locked to We don’t know.
the basketball players sure could shine some light,what did she say?what was the description of activity in the rv lot,athelethes? tailgating? i shudder when i think she wanted a ride -that bad-, to where,why?get your keys and sit in your car.
blink, do you know if the exboyfriend was the person she was texting with?
Been reading here for about 3 years, and have read every single MDH post here (PHEW!) Only weighing in as a fellow Aquarian – maybe there is something to be said about us “hopeless humanitarians” (as Aquarians are so oft be to labeled), after all! Can’t help but wonder if our archetype is simply drawn to stories like these. Regardless, I admire and feel part of this community, even though this is my maiden post… and I just want to think that if something tragic and untoward happened to me or my loved ones, there’d be a community like this one throwing around not only ideas and possibilities, but also the admiration and respect I see here. It takes strength to read and post here, and also to call each other out when merited. Thank you all.