Morgan Harrington Murder: Rumors Of A Suspects Arrest
Charlottesville, VA– This afternoon, originating on a VT Athletics Site rumors clogged the web that a suspect was placed under arrest for the murder of Morgan Harrington. After my 20th comment in 10 minutes and 12th email inquiry about it, I went to the source.
..There has been no arrest. It is an unfounded rumor and I have no idea how or where it started. I can only assume it stemmed from the fact that we completed our investigation of the crime scene at Anchorage Farm early this afternoon, I guess I will probably have to put out an email this afternoon..”
– Corrine Geller, PR Manager for VSP to Blink
As exclusively reported yesterday on blinkoncrime.com, it is expected that the and VSP upcoming conversations with those on the list with permission to hunt on Anchorage Farm, will propel the investigation into the murder of Morgan Harrington quickly.
However, Virginia State Police are not discussing whether or not they have a person of interest or suspect in this case.
There is however, unreleased new information and new evidence gleaned from the crime scene. VSP will not disclose what personal effects were found with Morgan’s remains at this time.
The viral arrest rumor was not the only odd occurrance today.
In what appears to be an unrelated coincidence, an explosive device was detinated on the train tracks close to James Madison University this morning. A nearby dorm has been evacuated in connection with materials found at the scene, and a criminal investigation has been launched by the ATF.
JMU is the school several of Morgan’s friends attend, and from where the group departed to attend the Metallica Concert that fateful night of October 17, 2009.
Check back to blinkoncrime.com for updates to this developing story.
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#33 zeusrocks
Great post! We think a like! S.’s comment bothered me as well. I always felt the purse was a “plant,” but for the wrong reason. I thought she ran away with a boyfriend and discarded it to start a new life.
I now believe it was put there to indicate Morgan was at JPG.
Also, because Dr. Harrington said Morgan frequently took the battery out of her phone, I believe the battery was found near her body.
I just hope an arrest will be made soon.
Dr. and Mrs. Harrington, if you are reading this, please know that your daughter is a part of our lives and always will be. We have come to love her and your family as we try to find that one clue, that one missing link that could connect the dots.
“this is the dawning of the age of aquarius, age of aquarius, age of aquari–usssss! Aquarius”
“Let the sunshine in. Let the sunshine in. The sunshine. In.”
Now I feel the Desiderata coming on.
Enquirer,
Looks like at least 3 posters beat me to the punch: Swiss Miss, Christy S and susanm…
For some reason I trust you when you say we’re close to resolution.
Thanks Word Girl for the mention-SS’s comment has always bothered me. I’m a fellow Aquarian too and I think it’s awesome because when I’m being eccentric and over the top I just say “I’m blond and Aquarius-what do you expect?”
I have always loved the Age of Aquarius song by the way-I haven’t thought of it in years, so thanks to whomever posted it first, for the blast from the past!
Thanks Blink and everyone on this site for all your dedication to helping people who no longer have a voice. This is what being human is all about to me-helping to make the world a better place, each and every day.
J2k, were you making fun of me? Granny pounced?
Hi guys. First, I want to say I am having a hard time getting used to the new site Blink. Although it is fast, I can’t easily reference older comments like I used to.
To everyone that thanked me for the jeep pics you are welcome. When I pictured someone crossing a creek in a vehicle I thought it would be much harder and dirtier than that.
Everyone that posted today,Feb 3 had alot of great points.
I am glad that Anne from the Enquirer decided to delete her article and came her to post her apology.
JoeAmerica, very good points thank you.
Minnie, I do not twitter, but I can’t imagine that info about a broken arm slipped out.I will wait for the COD autopsy to be sure.
barney,zeusrocks, Candice, Kate, just so you know,until I read the official story I won’t be sure if Morgan made it to or in the arena either.
Since LE has said it, I am basing most of my scenarios on the assumption she did.
Chad, I’m here. I am sorry about your Dad, but glad he is doing somewhat better,and did not have a stroke. I hope your daughter is doing well.
Enquirer, oh, I hope you are right and the noose is getting tighter and a resolution will be soon.
Observer, Sky, Blink, J2k and everyone who started in with the Age of Aquarius, I have been singing that and other songs from Hair today. catchy songs yes,says Yodda. One I couldn’t remember all the words,so I went looking for it. It made me think again of Morgan.
May you rest in Peace Morgan
*Easy to Be Hard*
How can people be so heartless
How can people be so cruel
Easy to be hard
Easy to be cold
How can people have no feelings
How can they ignore their friends
Easy to be proud
Easy to say no
And especially people
Who care about strangers
Who care about evil
And social injustice
Do you only
Care about the bleeding crowd?
How about a needing friend?
I need a friend
How can people be so heartless
You know I’m hung up on you
Easy to give in
Easy to help out
And especially people
Who care about strangers
Who say they care about social injustice
Do you only
Care about the bleeding crowd
How about a needing friend?
I need a friend
How can people have no feelings
How can they ignore their friends
Easy to be hard
Easy to be cold
Easy to be proud
Easy to say no
O Mom 3.0-
You hit my bullseye on that one. Love to u friend
B
Blink if the perp were already incarcerated at the time of Morgan’s discovery we wouldn’t expect to be hearing anything of an arrest…we wouldn’t be hearing anything for awhile would we??? LE could make a statement that no arrests have been made in the Morgan Harrington case because the arrest was made for something totally unrelated right?
Yes.
If the POI/suspect is incarcerated it would give LE all the time they need to build a case.
B
J2K says: February 3, 2010 at 12:46 pm
“roageo re: body’s location (February 3, 2010 at 4:15 am)
you should read Rob’s post from Feb 2 around 7 p.m. He offers an amazing, in-depth assessment/profile of the possible killer, in-line with what you’re steppin’ in.”
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J2K, I reviewed that post (Rob) and do not agree with it. I am not thinking that Morgan was placed in an open field because the perp was a psycho and wanted to come back to view her body and those who found her.
I’m thinking more in terms of the murderer being remorseful and wishing her body to be discovered when the time was conveniently safe for him.
Thus, I am wondering about the possibility of her body being ‘stored’ in a nearby area/building, such as a shed or barn and later carried a short distance to where she was later found. And, the person responsible may have thought Morgan would be found soon thereafter.
I feel like she knew her murderer and that would be the only way she would willingly get into a car. Otherwise, someone probably would have heard a commotion during the time the perp was attempting to abduct her. And, that might also be a reason for the murderer to feel some remorse/guilt…..because, he knew her and possibly had an emotional attachment, in some way, to her.
I’ll be the first to say, that I have no background in forensics and detective work; thus, my thoughts about this might sound quite naive. Oh, well. I do hold degrees in a ‘people’ field, which shall remain nameless for the present. Do they count?
I concur, except to say I am torn between Morgan being placed there after her death, or that the location is where she was murdered. I do not believe Morgan was held captive somewhere, and I do not believe she went with a stranger and ended up somewhere ( like a house party).
B
For those in the “She never made it to JPJ”camp, early in the invesigation wasn’t there a pretty specific report from a UVA Grad who parked next to Morgan and friends recapping conversation with Morgan and commenting on her bahavior before the concert?
Some of the early articles make interesting reading in hindsight, before some of the more complicated theories began to emerge.
This is beginning to remind me of the Jon Benet Ramsey case, where the emergence of complicated theories and a web of suspects combined with early LE mistakes and mis-steps resulted in a hopeless mess.
Seeker, I’ve noticed/thought that as well. I am surprised someone actually commented on it. Many times, after hearing the Harringtons speak, or reading Gil’s blogs…everyone else gushes how profound and gracious they seem, when I am thinking to myself, “hmmm…that seemed a bit ‘off’ somehow”.
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Seeker says:
February 3, 2010 at 2:39 pm
“I watched the interview with the Harringtons after the candlelight vigil and my immediate concern was that they seemed so nochalant about finding who did this to Morgan. They talked about closure now that she’s found, but there wasn’t a fire to find the person responsible which would seem the natural response. I understand we all grieve in our own ways, but that approach doesn’t seem to motivate LE to work harder.”….
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Dr. H is a psychiatrist. I am confident his training leads him and his family to focus their energies on their grief. They have been very specific to say they have no intention of being revictimized by Morgan’s killer by letting that aspect consume them.
I also believe it is in Alex’s best interests that they do not focus down that road either.I think he is particularly fragile right now. Respectfully, I do not think it serves anyone to critiscize anyone for a 3 minute snippet here and there.
B
Just want to say thanks to Word Girl and Chad for taking the time to give me some links and info. Much appreciated. Lots of material on these boards to read! Even tougher to figure out whats confirmed, rumor, reported…theorized. I’ve been following this case since it first hit the news on television- but had no idea there were sites like this. Its great… good to see there are smart, caring people in the world. Thanks to Blink and her contributors!
Completely understand where everyone is coming from on the Examiner article. I must say when Kenny brought Ann into the picture it was not with malice or financially motivated. His only purpose was/ is to keep Morgan’s story alive. First to find Morgan, second to find the killer. Although the wrong path was taken with the article I do not believe this to be written as a stab to Blink directly. I believe it was written with the best intention with the wrong words chosen. A mistake if anything.
J2k- I live on those 3 TV shows..lol.
The only thing that worries me about this case:
With how tight-lipped law enforcement has been (especially since recovering Morgan), its almost 50/50 to me that they either know EXACTLY who did this, and are awaiting forensic evidence- or- they have NO idea who did this and are protecting what they know. I really hope it’s the latter, and they are just making an airtight case. I agree with something someone else posted stating that perhaps LE is respectfully waiting for Morgan’s memorial/funeral to pass before making any announcement. Another thing that makes me concerned that they “dont know” is the fact that (to my limited knowledge)no vehicles have been impounded or that no search warrants issued. Or have there been? Anyone know this? Are they a matter of public record?
Wide awake for no good reason at 4 am, so I thought I would comment on a previous post about scalpers.
On October 1, U2 performed at Scott Stadium, an outdoor venue, in Charlottesville. Back when tickets went on sale, they sold out fast, so I planned to sit outside on a dorm lawn outside the stadium to hear the band. I had to walk about a mile to get to the stadium due to lack of parking, from the intersection of Ivy and Alderman (which is Copely on the other side of Ivy, it changes names), where I was dropped off. All along the route there were scalpers, and I decided I might try to buy a ticket. I asked one of the yellow-vested security people about it as I got closer, to see if they had heard of anyone trying to sell fake tickets, and they said no. I bought a ticket from a guy who told me he represented a reseller called upickaseat.com, right in front of three police officers who were standing about 30 yards from the stadium entrance. My opinion was that the police didn’t care about scalpers, (now called “resellers”?: apparently there’s a whole little industry in reselling tickets). Having said that, U2 was a HUGE deal here, because until recently Charlottesville was not a large mega-concert city. I don’t know if the police relaxed rules about scalping JUST for U2 just because they didn’t have time to enforce it due to the logistical nightmares of the show (they had to close off a couple of main streets after a certain time before the show and after just to deal with traffic; U2′s 22 tractor trailers, etc.). I don’t know if the laxness applies to the JPJ and/or for lesser shows — lesser meaning non-U2 bands, or a UVA vs. Va Tech game of any sport
After the show, I walked all the way to Grady/Rugby intersection, where I waited for a ride. There were a million people out, and I felt safe. As I waited for my ride, I saw 2 young women walking to a frat party; the blonde was texting as she crossed the street in her mini-skirt and high heels on a chilly night, and I had nothing but derogatory thoughts about her…i.e., “Idiot, not even looking where you’re going in the middle of the damn road. That outfit is a date rape waiting to happen, blah blah.” Mind you, I’m female, went to college in the 80′s when drinks could be had at 18, and have NO business judging a young person for partying (was I projecting a little judgement of myself onto that young woman?…hmmm). I am going to be more compassionate after this case.
This Anne Character does make a good point though . This site has the objective of finding people . There is lots of work in that area . Many missing who need a successful searcher . Nancy Grace has pretty well lost much use by making a career of one or two cases per year totally neglecting all others while she blabs about the twins . This site here while getting more hits might be in danger of loosing it’s way also . Most posts here are ramblings on and on about the poster and the posters lives , their likes ,dislikes ,what is going on with their dog yadda yadda etc etc. . Too much information regarding off topic nonsense will hijack the site into redundancy .
You are really bent on offending people I guess.
If you feel the subject matter here is sometimes too banal for you, you may feel free to read elsewhere.
I care about these people. These people give of their time and effort to help others.
They do not post on here to be jerkwads, it matters to them in their advocacy.
B
Ya know – here’s a thought…
Re: Ex boyfriend:
Is it possible that he communicated with her, prior to the concert…disguised as someone else?
In other words – Morgan thought she was talking to a “new” someone on the internet – and planned to meet up with him the night of the concert. He texts her (from an untraceable phone) to say he’s there – she goes outside to meet him – and finds out it’s her Ex.
That would explain the Granny sighting – and the fight/argument. Morgan would be clearly upset that he had tricked her into thinking he was someone else.
My heart aches for an answer to this nightmare.
Dear Morgan – you led us to find your “lovely bones”…now lead us to the person who took it upon himself to cut your life too short.
It is my belief that is exactly what happened. I believe ex bf, presented himself as New Guy online and caught her in his own sick sting when she left the concert, or he became aware of it.
B
Just a quick one. There’s a way that both Blink and her editors could be right on this.
I keep coming back to those 4 hours “missing” between H-ville JM Univ. and the short drive to C-ville. Within that vacuum, a whole lot of things might have taken place. As a matter of fact, this whole case may turn and pivot in those hours, from a planned concert evening, to a turbulent chaos of events that led to death.
What if – Morgan did NOT go to the concert, in HER car? The reason Dan kept the keys when they arrived – she wasn’t there yet!!!
She met by design or by accident – someone at a pre-party in H-ville
(Insert – there needs to be more analysis and speculation of WHERE exactly Morgan’s center of social gravity was. Was it possibly NOT at Vtech but at H-ville JMU – where possibly there was more of a crowd she could identify with than at a nerdy tech school, ie more fun??
Was H-ville where she liked to party and see bands?)
She and this guy decide within an hour or two, to drive up together and let Amy and Sarah go ahead in Morgan’s car. Morgan and her friend, exBF or new BF (take your pick) stay and party longer before driving to JPJ. Four hours is a lot of time. Plenty of party time. Why drive to C-ville right away to just sit in the lot? It’s cold. Partying at the house in H-ville is preferred.
They do drive to the show. Morgan goes in, possibly without BG, or WITH him (he has ticket). After LOG, the trouble starts. One wants to leave, one wants to stay. He drives off and leaves her in the lot alone, after an argument.
Now here’s where you unknown perp people can insert your stranger in to the scenario. Sure, it’s still possible.
But I believe BG came back after he cooled off, and she got in the car.
Of course this theory must also logically assume that both Morgan’s friends, and LE know the guy who she rode with, assuming LE did their proper job of interviewing Sarah, Dan and Amy.
Why everyone would be sticking to the story that she rode there in her own car – I’ll leave to your speculation.
I’ll admit this is bending Occam’s razor a bit, but both Blink and her editors might be right.
By the way all you astrology buffs, if you can understand Morgan being a Leo with an Aries Moon, then I believe we can go a long way towards being able to understand who she was, and her feelings and motives that night. This was no meek clueless victim. She was a Fire goddess and she didn’t take any S**T off of men, I can guarantee you.
She shown great warmth and light that others were attracted to. She loved loyally and truly. And she had a strong spirit.
Shine on, Morgan. Shine on.
Sherlock
As Morgan’s father, I would like to thank everyone who has contributed to finding Morgan and now trying to figure out who murdered her.
All of the sites have contributed in different ways and we, as a family, have been supported by you. As we come to Friday and the funeral Mass and celebration planned for Morgan’s life, please keep her and us in your thoughts.
Blink, thank you for you help in keeping it all on track.
Dr. Harrington, we will not stop until Morgan’s murderer is brought to justice.
Your sweet Morgan and your family are in our hearts and prayers today, as you lay her to rest tomorrow, and as we walk with you during the prosecution phase of her killer.
B
re #42 J2K ” (And what is Kenny’s cut?)”
Now either you have never actually read a single post on the findmorgan site, or you are the most classless person to ever post. Kenny has put his heart and soul into locating Morgan, and is above reproach.
I missed that. I agree that Kenny has worked very hard for the Harrington’s and imo, in some cases has trusted some at their word to his detriment.
Let’s clear that up. I have personally found Kenny to be a highly committed, empathetic guy who has worked tirelessly to assist the Harrington’s find their daughter and support them. He has been very responsive to anything I have ever asked of him and I do not believe for 3 seconds he is financially motivated. I do think there are those in the mire that are. I don’t care.
Dr. Harrington reminded folks about the reward the other day for a reason. If it catches a killer, it was leveraged appropriately, imo.
It was Kenny that facilitated the removal of the examiner article yesterday in about 10 minutes.
Let’s praise the good guys please. He is one of them.
B
Blink; may i post to you in private? double checking.
Yes friend, of course
B
I have seen the comments that perhaps the ex-boyfriend was pretending to be someone new online and tricked her and I think this is totally possible. I have a house full of teens and one has confided to me that she made up a bogus profile, “friend requested” her brother and he accepted her so now she knows all of his business, it would be very easy to do. Another thought along that same line is if she DID actually meet someone online who misrepresented himself. One of my daughters friends has “met” boys online, developed a relationship with them and eventually meets them (much to my horror). Sometimes she finds the “boys” have absolutly misrepresented themselves. Wondering if that could have happened to Morgan. Did she spend months chatting with, “getting to know”, a new guy online who maybe lived in the area and planned on meeting him for the first time when she came to town for the concert? Did she leave the concert to meet him only to realize that he had misrepresented himself (in age, looks, etc) and tried to get back inside? When she couldn’t get back in maybe decided to give guy a chance?
Firstly, to Dr. Harrington, your family has touched my heart actually down to the soul. I first fell in love with your Morgan because she reminded me so much of my own daughter. Throughout all of this I have continued to fall in love with your whole family. Gil’s beautiful writings and true raw emotion has ripped my heart out but, made me realize even more what a kind a caring person Morgan was. Your tireless efforts to find your daughter and bring her home has made me realize where Morgan got her strength and independance from. Dear sweet Alex, has lost one of his best friends but, I know he will not lose that spunk and fire for life that I know he and Morgan both exuded. As I mentioned before, my daughter will be entering her freshman year in college and I would love to be able to sleep at night knowing that she is safe on campus. I know you and your family are going to bring light to the needs for safety on college campuses nation wide. I would love to help in any way to get the word out and educate college campuses on the desperate need for this. Please feel free to contact me and I will help do whatever it takes to make our colleges safe for our “adult children”. My thoughts and prayers will be with you and your family tomorrow.
Secondly, Blink thank you for caring about the posters here and being an advocate for not only us, but more importantly all of the missing and those people taken from their families unnecessarily.
Blink,you took the words out of my mouth: Kenny does everything from the heart, in a big way and having met him now on several occasions, he has the best of intentions for Morgan and her family…And, Dan, especially on this day of 2/4/10, we will keep you, Morgan, Gil and Alex in our prayers. One more thing to everyone, Fish has left one of the most touching posts ever; it’s on Blink’s thread re. her panel interview. 2 4 1 and peace everyone
Fish’s post is #4 2:44am on the Scared Monkey radio interview thread; just reread it and it’s just, well, lovely.
joeamerica RE:
February 3, 2010 at 9:46 pm
Joe, I just read your post in defense of LE and I cannot refrain from writing to say THANK YOU. I don’t even have LE in my family and I feel touched and appreciative of the perspective you provide; I cannot imagine how these words lift the families of LE, who indeed make sacrifices for justice themselves.
May I suggest you send those words, in the form of a Letter to the Editor, to the Daily Progress or the Hook? Blink: apologies if that doesn’t work with regards to copyright, but I am thinking you might agree with my suggestion …
Frank Speaker and whoever else complained, you may find me off topic, but boosting these investigators as they tread so carefully in gathering evidence for a successful prosection is, to me, right on point. Thanks for considering.
I’ve been following the comments from the beginning, but have only commented once or twice.
In no way can I imagine that Morgan did not make it to the show. LE has been adament that she was last seen on Copley Bridge, why in the world would they not only mislead the public and potential witnesses, but also her family? I believe the family must feel certain this is the case as they have set up a beautiful memorial for here there. And how in the world could her friends lie about her being there after all this time. Maybe they were apt to tell a “white lie” in the days following the show, but certainly not as time went by and it was obviously a serious situation.
BUT, why then are there no pictures or video of her at JPJ?? I’m 40 and a mom of 4, but still take pictures at every outing I have with my girlfriends and I’m not even of the Facebook era. In every other case I’ve seen/read about, if there’s video/pictures, they are shown all over. I’m thinking here of the sweet 5 year old Shania Davis being carried into the hotel by her murderer. So, my point is, I believe they are not releasing these pictures/video for some reason. What could that reason possibly be?????
I’m so frustrated, I do little else these days beside follow this heartbreaking story. And if I feel I need closure, I can only imagine how Morgan’s family feels….
I had a conversation with one of my editors on this very point yesterday.
Warning: I DO NOT want to get into a debate on this, or have every Cavalier or Hokie fly on here to present their arguments for same.
That said, I believe there has been a downplay on the inside video footage because the system is grossly inadequate for the amount of people the JPJ holds, the types of events that are hosted and the myriad of age groups and varying crowds it draws. I mentioned this very early, but subsequent research seems to underscore exactly what I am saying.
Hypothetically, one most assume that the building of that arena came from donations, grants, and the like.
At 30,000 ft and after studying the plans, I can safely say the cash went into televising events, not monitoring their own.
What if Morgan WAS served there? What if Morgan was attacked inside there? What if she was abducted from there? The potential for liability is huge. Who wants to bet me plans for an upgrade to the internal security monitoring and surveillance started about Oct. 20th.
A bad guy harmed our dear Morgan, absolutely not UVA’s fault. However, I have not seen a single piece of inside security footage of anything or anyone. Everything shot was submitted by patrons.
Why?
B
teri and blink (8;29am), if that is true then, i suspect that you know exactly who this is and it is just a matter of time before the computer evidence and forensic evidence match up… so, i am taking that as the best news we have heard. thank you for sharing, and i hope this will bring the Harrington’s a bit of peace as they celebrate morgan’s life tomorrow… can’t help but think about ‘ashes to ashes and dust to dust” and the beautiful paper she wrote about gardening with her mom as she is laid to rest….
after reading all that I can I presume the following….
*she WAS incapacitated by something.
*she WAS picked up at the bridge.
*she WAS at the 15th street apartments doing or having done who knows what (where her Pantera shirt was found.)
*she WAS seen by the paper lady early that morning with three boys coming out of the 15th street apts.
*she WAS taken alive by one boy south down 29 to the area near the Anchorage Farm because he is from that area and has knowledge about the farm and maybe told the other boys he would “take care of her”.
*He either did or tried to sexually assault her at his house or barn etc. near or possibly even ON the farm.
*she DID in her confused state get away from him and stumble thru the woods and fields and fences and creeks.
*he either strangled or stabbed her where she was found.
*he did not shoot her as the gunshot would have been to revealing.
*he then left her where she lay and visited the site after the crime on several occasions.
err, prosecUtion.
B this needs not to be posted, but I know who is charge here.
I read your cooint on the XBF using another name to contact her in the concert.
It is a very good thought.
I presented that someone called her iside posing as the XBF.
Both seem very possible. Your superior knowledge and access leads me to your theory being more credible than mine.
Only question, why would she seem so upset if she was thinking she would be meeting with him. Of course you as a woman would have better insight.
But, we both have similar thoughts.
As my Dad always says, “brillant minds think a like”
Not that i feel that brillant right now. Without my staff I cannot even spell correctly.
Dr. H. is so supportive of you and I guess to most of us that post, that I hope we can support him and his family.
He seems so strong, that strength can also be a heavy burden, on top of everything else.
I am truley concerend for him, and to a lesser degree comcerned about the posters that are so involved.
Would you please post something about grief help.
I know that in a lot a ways this site helps people to get there thoughts out there. But some may need a little help.
Like you said about your Nieces, everyone needs to “talk” to someone at times.
You and I are very aware of that. Just share that with others. I do not want to see someone get so depressed that they have bad thoughts.
Thank you very very much!
I have been thinking about this, and agree it is a good suggestion, but I am hesitant to recommend resources I cannot verify personally for obvious reasons. If any posters wish to comment on resources for grief counseling, I would be ok with that, with the understanding that they are not endorsed by me personally.
B
About this meeting a guy on-line thing… I could be very wrong, but I just don’t think it’s that plausible. Our generation has grown up with the risks and benefits of the internet. We have had it beaten into our heads that we should never give out personal information or arrange to meet anyone that we met over the internet. Morgan was a very intelligent girl, and I just don’t think she would fall for such a plan. She had been looking forward to this concert for 6 months, and she even had a countdown that she updated daily on her facebook status. Respectfully, I just don’t buy the meeting an ex posing as a stranger online scenario…
I have been on her facebook, I strongly disagree. If you review the thousands of posts on here, you will see both Morgan and her entire friend base were not remotely concerned about personal security on the web
B
Blink-
I think your theory that the ex bf could have posed as a new guy online is really accurate and right on. I actually had this happen to me with one of my ex’s when I was a junior in college and when i read your comment about it I got immediate goosebumps on my arms. When my ex’s advances towards me and unwarranted “stalking” behavior got completely out of control and he realized it wasn’t gonna bring me back, he made up a fake screen name and facebook account. It was pretty sick and twisted.
I also think that this theory could maybe explain some holes we have currently. I think morgan told her friends she was going to meet up with a friend. I don’t think she told them that she met the guy online because she was embarassed about it. From Morgan’s computer records would they be able be able to trace it to the bad guy? Or would they need a warrant for the bad guys computer, which I don’t think they could get without probable cause?
Those warrants would have been in place, at least filed, in the first few weeks. However, in many cases I have worked on, it can take a minimum of 30 days to execute them, especially when dealing with an entity like a social networking site. There was no crime committed and no certainty Morgan left on her own technically until she was found, so I would not shock me to hear if alot of warrants were filed January 26th resetting the clock so to speak.
B
They will be able to trace
Ross:
Perhaps if Kenny needs a good reference for a skilled, professional, talented journalist, to write a supportive, informative piece on The Morgan Harrington case, perhaps, I respectfully introduce you to Blink’s J2K. Might be worth checking into.
Obviously, and unfortunately for you, you have not read a single post written on this site by J2K, thus, you would have not posted your comment.
Have a good day.
It freezes my shorts when the same person only ever shows up to chuck the spear.
No other contribution, ’nuff said.
B
Ross has managed to find a poster with apparent less class than me . I feel so smug . There are posts that seem to be by informed people hinting that this case is all but rapped up . I am wondering how the x-BF theory jives with where they found MH . Doesn’t seem to fit . Maybe LE was using the old school method of identifying the usual suspect and carving the evidence to fit an end result . Thank goodness for DNA that method doesn’t work so well any longer . Any online set up here of MH by an x ,new or pretend BF is easily traceable . The leaving the purse out to intentionally mislead only would work if the purse in turned in . The percentage chance of a purse being turned in would be quite low . A street smart person would know that . Haven’t the theroists given too little weight to the kickee ? He seems very authentic no need to twist his story to make it fit a total different scenario. He mentioned it to his girlfriend .What guy would cry to the cops that he has just been approached by a beautiful girl etc. He later reported the incident lamenting his choice of not calling LE . So maybe while under the influence of something she randomly kicks and curses at some decent guy stranger ,no problem. Very easy to imagine her over in the RV area meeting another stranger ,kicking , this stranger not nice , problem .
Mr. Speaker-
I can tell from this post your not reading posts from here in this case and it is on my last nerve, sorry.
J2K is far from classless, in fact, I am quite certain when we see her again, that post will be cleared up. I have never seen her disrespect a soul on here and she is very well received and a significant contributor to this case. And If I dare say, the inventor of the *thinking goblet * which has spawned some brilliant discussions here.
Step off of the Crazy Uncle stance and contribute positively or please check out versus channel programming to fill the day. I simply cannot make the time.
B
“I do not think it serves anyone to critiscize anyone for a 3 minute snippet here and there.
B”
I absolutely agree that the Harringtons deserve only praise for their ability to rise above reactionary emotions, their ability to look their feelings in the eye, and publicly share them. I truly respect the way they have handled _every_ aspect of this unthinkable situation.
In re: the quote above, however, that is what people have been doing everywhere… making huge leaps and criticisms based on even less than a 3 minute snippet. There have been extensive criticisms based on snapshots – a very instant in time. With all due respect to all involved, it’s a bit hypocritical to encourage hypervigilance into once scene and discourage it in another.
As I said, I have no stomach for criticisms of the Harringtons, but there is no denying that, here, they are the only ones who are given that kind of pass.
Respectfully, I cant address such a generalization. A snapshot analyzing the emotional reaction of someone has never occurred here. The criticsizm of the behavior has.
If you don’t feel there is a distinction between the analysis of grieving parents and discussion of what is actually occurring in a photo I am not sure what to say, maybe I am missing your point.
Respectfully submitted-
B
a minor housekeeping detail, Blink, it seems that at least my posts all have a time stamp of one hour ahead of eastern time. is your server in Atlantic time zone?
Seems that a lot of speculation can be cured by the vsp revealing what clothing Morgan was wearing or remained at the site where her body was found. Obviously, they have their reasons for withholding that info. I find it hard to believe that she lost her shirt re: 15th st. threads, and then was taken to the farm. If we can believe Ms. Parsons at all, other than the tights, the girl she saw must have had on a shirt. I am still unclear as to whether she had a jacket going to jpj and still had a jacket when last seen. Is the 15th st. shirt find a confirmed bit of evidence that the shirt belonged to Morgan – I’m still confused on this pt.
I am given to understand that the security cam monitoring (at least inside) must be virtually worthless. If not, has there been any attempt at employing this new fangled facial recognition technology to try and compare faces outside with those of possible suspects. I am always amused when news stations broadcast a webcam pic of somebody who held up a store, bank, etc. the pics are usually worthless. Some higher end cameras should correct this.
About the scalpers and other characters (dealers) who feed off of these events, I imagine that if LE starts squeezing these people, eventually at least some worthwhile tid bit of reliable info will be obtained. this may be a monumental task however.
I know it has been tried here, but a baseline of what is known/confirmed info may be most useful – at least it may cut down on speculative posts.
The timing of Ed Smart’s visit yesterday to Charlottesville, re: funding for a task force to combat internet crimes against children, is interesting to me after reading these posts:
Teri says:
February 4, 2010 at 8:29 am
“Ya know – here’s a thought…
Re: Ex boyfriend:
Is it possible that he communicated with her, prior to the concert…disguised as someone else?”
Blink: “It is my belief that is exactly what happened. I believe ex bf, presented himself as New Guy online and caught her in his own sick sting when she left the concert, or he became aware of it.”
B
amy l. says:
February 4, 2010 at 11:18 am “Did she spend months chatting with, “getting to know”, a new guy online who maybe lived in the area and planned on meeting him for the first time when she came to town for the concert? Did she leave the concert to meet him only to realize that he had misrepresented himself (in age, looks, etc) and tried to get back inside? When she couldn’t get back in maybe decided to give guy a chance?”
I may be willing to “move my cheese” from my belief of a stranger abduction after reading those posts. It’s chilling to see what kinds of deception are possible in the internet age, especially for those of us whose normal way of thinking is not deviant and dishonest.
Ed Smart came to C-ville in November to help the Laura Recovery Center bring awareness to the community about the search for Morgan. I appreciate his return to talk about the related issue of prevention of internet abuse of children. I wish that funding could be extended to adults, but it’s doubtful we’ll even get the funding for even the childrens’ task force, because Virginia’s budget is being struck with cuts all around this year.
jen says:
February 4, 2010 at 2:38 am
Blink if the perp were already incarcerated at the time of Morgan’s discovery we wouldn’t expect to be hearing anything of an arrest…we wouldn’t be hearing anything for awhile would we??? LE could make a statement that no arrests have been made in the Morgan Harrington case because the arrest was made for something totally unrelated right?
Yes.
If the POI/suspect is incarcerated it would give LE all the time they need to build a case.
B
I think that, if LE has a serious POI, he is already incarcerated. It would explain the disconnect between a brutal murder of a college age girl in a college town taking place and the lack of serious warnings to the community by the police.
This is Blink’s response to a poster’s comments on inside security video at JPJ
>>What if Morgan WAS served there? What if Morgan was attacked inside there? What if she was abducted from there? The potential for liability is huge. Who wants to bet me plans for an upgrade to the internal security monitoring and surveillance started about Oct. 20th. <<<
And Morgan, yet again, has inspired events to ensure safety at that venue in the future — not just w/ the cameras, but perhaps a review of the readmission policy — i fully understand their “no readmittance” policy — but perhaps they will initiate plans to assist concert-goers who find themselves in Morgan’s position in the future.
As much as we want to, we can’t change past events. But we sure as heck can change future ones.
I’m on break from work, and cannot bring myself to read Fish’s comments on the other thread until after work. Fish is an amazing person, just like everyone else here — even Frank Speaker, who may come to learn it’s okay to be a little touchy feely even on a news site : )
My heart and thoughts and prayers are w/ the Harringtons and everyone else tomorrow. I lit a candle for Morgan during the vigil at her home last week. I’ll keep one lit tomorrow, as well.
Do any of you have any information about a public broadcast ? Even a webpod cast — if that’s the right term ?
Let’s hope the weather cooperates and the storm doesn’t move in until much later in the day.
Kindest regards to all
Sky
re scalping.
Virginia allows the cities/counties to decide whether scalping is legal or not. C’ville allows scalping so long as the transaction is not causing a disturbance (basically stays out of the street — does not cause cars to back up). Thus, you will see open scalping for all events at scott stadium and the JPJ.
I have to disagree with you. If their focus is on their grief, why the constant media blitz? It seems odd to me that they would use the time of an interview to discuss their feelings at length but not at all talk about the importance of finding out who murdered their daughter. Why not privately grieve if their focus is strictly on the closure finding Morgan brings and not on finding her murderer. I feel very sorry for them for their loss. I’m just not understanding their approach and the wide leeway they seem to give LE and the shrugging of the shoulder demeanor they seem to have when it comes to finding out what happened to her. If her own parents don’t have a fire lit under them for finding out what happened, why should LE or anyone else? Someone murdered their daughter. I’m not saying they should be full of rage every living second, I’m saying some would be natural and would also motivate LE to do the job they should have been doing from the start. I know it’s not popular to say those things here, I should be saying Mrs. Harrington seems so wise, graceful and is a guru with her wisdom and maybe she is, I just think it’s not the time for that. It’s the time to find out what happened to their daughter.
“Dr. H is a psychiatrist. I am confident his training leads him and his family to focus their energies on their grief. They have been very specific to say they have no intention of being revictimized by Morgan’s killer by letting that aspect consume them.
I also believe it is in Alex’s best interests that they do not focus down that road either.I think he is particularly fragile right now. Respectfully, I do not think it serves anyone to critiscize anyone for a 3 minute snippet here and there.”
I think I already addressed this adequately and we will have to agree to disagree.
B
Barney1–I’m with you! I do NOT believe that Morgan Harrington was ever at the arena. Also, like you, I am old and having a hard time with this new format. LOL.~Moonchime
In my November LRC search group I spoke to a team member about my surprise over the lack of video images from the JPJ arena the night of Morgan’s disappearance. He told me he had a friend who worked at the arena who said there are cameras everywhere, and over every door. Now, my question today is, did those cameras work? Were they recording? If they were, were the recordings monitored, or were they dumped every night? Were the cameras just for show, or not yet implemented (well, I bet they are now).
People have speculated about the University trying to cover up the abduction of Morgan and ignore her case or hinder the investigation. I think the case is too big for them to generally “cover up”; however, if there is an aspect of the case that could be concealed, the lack of video surveillance at the JPJ most definitely could be the one thing that UVa asked law enforcement to please, please keep out of the press. I don’t know why the police would comply, unless politics lie behind that answer. UVa is the most prestigious public university in the country, and it has the biggest capital campaign I’ve ever seen. The money is crazy. Albemarle County is like the 3rd wealthiest county in the country or something, and I’m sure the prestigious image “issues” that plague Ivy communities are influences here, the home of the “Ivy of the Public Universities”. We have a LaCrosse team, a rowing team that competes with Harvard et al, and ample secret societies just like the Ivies. People don’t just hunt game in Albemarle, they hunt foxes while dressed in red jackets, sitting English saddle, on equestrian estates bigger than the University campus.
The University does have a past sordid history of covering up sexual assaults on campus, but I WILL say, sadly, no more so than most other prestigious colleges and universities. Hey, no more than even “regular” public universities of moderate prestige. I went to a medium-sized school in the NC University system that covered up rapes, too. I can easily see UVa not wanting to put it out for public consumption that a crime can happen to you at “The Jack” and no one will ever know, and/or that your kids could get served a beer.
Just some background food for thought. Dr. Harrington’s mention on the Today show the other day about potentially advocating for campus security as a way to honor Morgan may prove to be right on target.
Does anyone have information regarding this EXBF? I really hate to accuse people of such a heinous act without some kind of substance. If this person committed this crime, the logistics would have taken substantial planning and a completely warped mind- a mind that is over-the-top obssessed with an individual. There would be a mountain of circumstantial evidence… even more than being jealous/abusive. Was there a history of stalking or otherwise overt behavior? Had said person previously “interfered” with her relationships? It seems like she still had this person in her phone (reports of her calling/texting him). Does anyone know how long ago they “broke up”? Did he often try to call her, or show up at her college (especially unannounced)? Was he still in her “circle” of friends… i.e. attending the same parties/gatherings etc.? Did he often post comments on her Facebook/myspace? Has he publicly or otherwise given a solid alibi for that night? It seems like nobody is jumping up to defend the guy or exonerate him. If I was having the finger pointed at me… especially in such a “high profile” case… I’d be doing everything in my power to publicly eliminate myself from suspicion. I’d be saying “here, give me a polygraph”… or releasing a statement providing witnesses to my alibi. I couldnt stand walking around in my community with people looking at me sideways.
Not divulging at this time.
B
News conference today at 3:00 PM. (From NBC29.com)
Virginia State Police to hold 3:00pm news conference today in Charlottesville regarding the Morgan Harrington case; they say NO arrest has been made. NBC29 is told the information released in this press conference will focus on the specific nature of the location where Morgan’s remains were found the morning of Jan. 26, 2010.
February 4, 2010
VSP to Hold Morgan Harrington Press Conference Thursday
The Virginia State Police will hold a press conference Thursday at 3 p.m. to update the Morgan Harrington investigation.
Police say no arrest has been made at this stage of the investigation. The press conference will focus on the specific nature of the location where Harrington’s remains were found on Jan. 26.
Lt. Joe Rader, who has led the investigation since the beginning, will be speaking.
CBS19 will carry the press conference live on air and on newsplex.com.
http://www.newsplex.com/home/headlines/83555792.html
VA State Police to hold 3:00pm news conference today regarding the Morgan Harrington case; they say NO arrest has been made.
http://twitter.com/nbc29
blink-
i am not sure if you are going to be able to answer this question or not, but since you are aware of the identity of morgan’s ex boyfriend, were you able to look at his facebook page and if so was there anything concerning on it that would bring up red flags?
TO: joeamerica 2/3, 9:46am:
Words (almost) fail me in my attempt to thank you for this post. You stately so well, so clearly, and so eloquently what I have been trying so hard–albeit not well–to articulate since my very first post in early November.
You know from whence you speak, and that is invaluable. Your words ring true with credibility. You expressed understanding and discernment, and for that I am most grateful.
On behalf of any reader here who has personally served in LE, has ever known anyone in LE, or has a loved one now serving in LE:
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Hi JulieMooly,
Maybe Mr. Smart timed his visit to coincide with Morgan’s services and that is all. He seems like a nice man who would want to attend and show support for the Harringtons. He endured all kinds of speculation when Elizabeth went missing, and I am sure the Harringtons draw much-needed support and empathy from him. They are in the same undesirable club (to different degrees, obviously), but a club that nonetheless puts its members in a unique position to make a difference …
I have read all posts and am still on the exBF path, unless it’s a currently incarcerated person. Not an expert by any stretch, but I haven’t wavered except to consider it’s someone who’s already in jail. I agree with GH that Charlottesville likes to preserve its idyllic image, but not at the risk of further bad press for UVa.
Dr and Mrs Harrington: add me to the long list of people who’ll be thinking of you and yours tomorrow.