Morgan Harrington Murder: Harringtons Debut Morgan Rocks
Charlottesville, VA- Continuing the crusade to memorialize their daughter Morgan and keep the public focused on the dangerous killer(s) still at large, Dan and Gil Harrington will be meeting with media today at 1PM.
The meeting agenda will include the Harrington’s ongoing concerns for womens safety on and off campus, and their fears associated with the fact that there has not been an arrest in their daughters murder to date.
The Harringtons are also expected to announce MORGAN ROCKS.
In response to a hand-painted river rock, lovingly and generously created and delivered to the Copely bridge by blinkoncrime.com contributor Skyler, containing the phrase “Rock On”; The Harringtons have decided to widen the trend.
MORGAN ROCKS
We are starting a “gathering of rocks” at Morgan’s memorial on
Morgan’s Bridge at Copeley Road on the North Grounds of the University of Virginia. When you come to Charlottesville and to the bridge bring a rock and a prayer to add to the collection. Leave both at the bridge!
Morgan, Gil, Alex and I continue to need your support and prayers as we wait for Morgan’s murder(s) to be brought to justice. Your support in raising society’s awareness of the need to change the culture of acceptance of violence against women and in so doing change the laws that allow these crimes to go unpunished.
Skyler’s slate rock was the first. A beautiful painted slate rock with an image of Anchorage Farm, Tibetan prayer flags and an angel rising to the heavens. Morgan, Rock ON!!!
Dan Harrington
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Blink, I know you are close to Christina’s family — this is part of what I do — please encourage her to immediately apply for all public assistance available to her — and there is A LOT — including health care, which she will need — depending on her income, by raising the children, she also may be able to get healthcare thru Medicaid if she is under age 65, and help paying for her Medicare if she is over 65 — these are federal programs administered by the states — the money has to be used — there is no shame in using what she has paid her taxes for ! Also, she can get some assistance in paying for her funeral from social services — again, there is no shame in that —
<3, Sky
Morgan was “golden”. She loved Music, any type of music, Morgan took it all in. Heard one of my favoraite songs tonight on the radio. The first words of the song, immediately made me think of Morgan. Rock on Morgan. Saturday night tribute to Morgan.
Y’all know this band, and may have seen them in concert. Led Zeplin.
STAIRWAY TO HEAVEN:
There’s a lady whose sure all that glitters is gold
And she’s buying a stairway to heaven.
When she gets there, she knows if the stores are all closed
With a word she can get what she came for.
Ooh, ooh, and she’s buying a stairway to heaven.
There’s a sign on the wall but she wants to be sure
’Cause you know sometimes words have two meanings.
In a tree by the brook, there is a songbird who sings:
Sometimes all of our thoughts are misgiven.
Ooh, it makes me wonder,
Ooh, it makes me wonder.
Theres a feeling I get when I look to the west,
And my spirit is crying for leaving.
In my thoughts I have seen rings of smoke through the trees,
And the voices of those who standing looking.
Ooh, it makes me wonder,
Ooh, really makes me wonder.
And it’s whispered that soon if we all call the tune
Then the piper will lead us to reason.
And a new day will dawn for those who stand long
And the forests will echo with laughter.
If there’s a bustle in your hedgerow,
Don’t be alarmed now,
Its just a spring clean for the May queen.
Yes, there are two paths you can go by but in the long run
Theres still time to change the road you’re on.
And it makes me wonder.
Ooooooh…
Your head is humming and it won’t go,
In case you don’t know:
The pipers calling you to join him.
Dear lady, can you hear the wind blow,
And did you know:
Your stairway lies on the whispering wind.
And as we wind on down the road,
Our shadows taller than our soul,
There walks a lady we all know.
Who shines white light and wants to show…
How everything still turns to gold.
And if you listen very hard the tune will come to you at last.
When all are one and one is all, yeah, to be a rock and not to roll.
And she’s buying a stairway… to heaven.
Skyler, that IS wild! Truly a small world, and amazing you would remember that.
Maybe you can still see the postcard here. front and back
http://www.suityourself.org/PC361013.jpg
http://www.suityourself.org/PC361014.jpg
Weirder still is a friend of mine in San Fran happened to see this postcard in someone’s incoming mailbox in his apartment building (in 1979 or 1980 I think) and is the one who told me I was on a postcard. The one I bought off of ebay was unused; I just happened to search for it on a whim because someone was talking about the no nukes concert dvd that has recently (i think) been released, and there it was on ebay. Wild.
But enough about me…
I’m interested in that rumor of a Roanoke arrest referenced above, though it doesn’t seem to square with the Harringtons’ seeming certainty that it’s a Charlottesville perp or perps.
I found this perspective on heavy metal interesting:
http://www.centredaily.com/2010/03/20/v-print/1865103/metal-music-inspires-justice.html
TO: Eloise: I’m so sorry to hear the news of your sister’s diagnosis…this has to be a very scary time for both of you. [Although you did not mention the specific type of cancer she has, please know that the fight against cancer continues on with great strength. My sister is a breast cancer surgeon who founded the Breast Health and Healing Foundation, whose mission is to discover the specific causes of breast cancer and to use that knowledge to prevent the disease--what she refers to as "the pure cure".] My heart goes out to you, Eloise, as I have four friends battling cancer at this moment. Sending up special prayers for your sister’s healing…
TO: suz and skyler: I knew I “hearted” you-all! I have many memories of marching in Washington in the 60′s and 70′s to protest many things (with a concert or two thrown in, just for good measure:-)))…though like you, skyler, I couldn’t remember what I had for lunch yesterday:-)))
Hi Skyler –
I have no idea who the Roanoke story is in reference too. I was also really surprised that someone from Roanoke was being discussed again considering the overall feelings that the killer is from C’ville. My dad indicated that the FBI was involved and was interviewing co-workers and family of this individual. A woman that was having a home visit by social services apparently made a comment to the social worker along the lines of, “We’re going to be on the news, my nephew is going to be arrested for murdering that girl in Charlottesville”. Again, I can’t find ANY mention of it anywhere so at this point it is just a personal communication, so I don’t want to put too much faith into it in the event that it’s a rumor. I’m just grabbing onto any hope of justice!
Judi,
I personally know two of the guys in the band. Daniel and Kyle both graduated in my daughters high schoolclass. They all graduated with top honors.
They come from good families. I have known both of these boys my entire life and I can assure you they are both fine young men.
They graduate this May from UVA. They are also fine musicians and played in the jazz band with my daughter. Kyle has a great sense of humor and a wild imagination but really, I would bet my life on these two.
juliemooley,
I LOVE IT!! Wow!
Thanks for posting the pics.
Thank you Josie, Marchmallow WI & Sky for your prayers for my sister. We need all we can get!
Oops and Observer too. My dad is ill too, & we are planning how to tell him, tough times. Thanks.
Eloise:
I am so sorry you and your family are faced with this. My Dad died of lung cancer. That was a long time ago and they have come a long way with treating cancer and other diseases. Back then the doctor didn’t realize how important it was for the patient to stay positive and hopeful. He basically gave him a due date of 2 years left and he died within a month of that expiration date. I have heard of many cases where the patient practiced meditation, daily prayer and various mental and physical exercises, kept a positive and optimistic outlook – as it affects your immune system – (along with medical intervention from an excellent top-of-the-class doctor) and beat the most grim of diagnoses. You and your family are in my prayers too. Remember miracles do happen. You have a whole team of blinksters talking to the guy upstairs for you.
@ ConcernedBystander March 20, 2010 at 6:58 pm
Good point! I have no idea about the time needed to set up *really* big concerts like the ones in JPJ, but that sounds realistic. I live near a few similar venues, and they are usually busy delivering equipment etc. on the afternoon.
My guess is that they use specialized companies for transport, and that each band also has their own technicians and so on, who would be there for the day.
All I know from first hand experience is how to set up and organize the average indi gig, four or five people with their cars and maybe a van… And how to organize a choir concert. I sing in a chamber choir and I also have done backing vocals at indi gigs a few times in my life – and I have friends who play in bands.
Blink, FYI. I’m linked to the RSS feed, but when I click on the direct link to your last story on Morgan (would be my 3rd choice of stories to read), it comes up saying, “Sorry, no posts matched your criteria”. It is fine if I go to your homepage and link from there.
All the rest of the rss feed links seem to work fine.
@ Liam March 20, 2010 at 8:47 pm
Well, I recall the words “limited interaction”, but I can’t find the source at the moment. It made me wonder whether she did in fact say much. It sounded as if she was disoriented.
By the way, the phrase sounds like LE jargon to me. Is that correct? Any native speakers out there? Would you use this phrase in everyday life?
The Farmville murder case, with self proclaimed juggalo psykosam, is the closest thing to what appears to be demon possession that I have ever seen. Yikes. Freud would have a field day with this guy.
Hey, I’ll continue to support the First Amendment so they can write and sing their lyrics about chopping people up, as long as you guys continue to support the Second Amendment so I can blow away one of those hatchet wielding clowns if they ever threaten the life of anyone I know and love.
I am not sure I am in support of graphically violent words of any song, but that’s just me. I do however strongly support protection of your person and your family.
B
danielle, could they be talking about the rso ,from roanoke ,drew clark,whose was wanted,looks like they found him ,his picture was updated feb. 18 th.
In regards to the Harrington’s last press conference, did they meet with LE prior to disclosing what they did? I assume they did, or else LE would be livid.
If they did, I assume LE is not banking on the possibility of a direct confession, as the shattering of the bones is an important detail? Maybe they know they have, and will not need a confession because:
1) An accomplice is talking
2) Significant physical evidence is/will be available
However, I can’t seem to figure out why LE would have the Harringtons relay this information instead of LE directly. Seems a bit strange.
I do however strongly support protection of your person and your family.
B
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Thank you Blink. I appreciate that
Don’t you ever take a break? A vacation? You’re amazing woman.
The sun is shining, the golden finches are singing, I hope you take your laptop out in the sun today.
oops. our state bird is the Goldfinch, not golden finch. Well, they’re singing too. After this past summer’s political fraudfest I think they should change it to the “jailbird”.
The big lesson everyone should remember here is that you cannot throw kids out there in the world alone,” says Currie. “Parents are good things. Having someone protecting you is always a good thing.” seems to be a bruhaha boiling over,whether or not they were they taken advantage of sexally,i believe some versions of currie’s stories,come on qualudes were the date rape drug of the 70′s ——-jackie fox ,bass player of the runaways: ” As most of you reading this probably know, Cherie has been writing new material to update her book “Neon Angel: The Cherie Currie Story,” which was released in 1989 for the juvenile market and chronicled Cherie’s history of drug use and abuse. There was a lot of material on the Runaways, much of it inaccurate, but none of us really cared because it wasn’t derogatory and she managed to capture the spirit of the band in spite of the inaccuracies. Cherie has now decided to cough up the seamier details of life in the Runaways for a new, adult audience. Only some of her accounts are false and damaging to the people about whom she writes. Many of the people affected (myself included) are not happy, especially with one proposed chapter of the book, which Cherie has titled “Kim Fowley’s Sex Education Class.”
In this chapter, Cherie claims that when we played the Golden West Ballroom in Norwalk, California, Kim Fowley drugged a teenaged girl and our other manager forced us to watch Kim rape her. Cherie claims that the rest of the band sat around and watched this, and that I, after seeing it, asked the rest of the band if they had any more hamburgers because I was still hungry.
The event described in Cherie’s book never happened, and a number of people Cherie placed in the room during this alleged event have told Cherie so and have asked her to eliminate this chapter or remove them from it, but Cherie has steadfastly refused and has verbally abused the people who have asked.——- i applaud cherie currie(she worked as a drug counselor) she gets its about about shining the light into the dark sexuality of the seventies( ahem,led zep’s,black dog),these are -that age groups- kids ,coming of age now(lady gaga’s monsters).timothy leary’s dying words were “where are the kids,what did we do to the kids,please go find them”
This the third name you have attempted to post under. You will need to post under your original name so everyone knows who you are on here.
I feel changing your hat is deceptive to readers and I only allow one username at a time, anyone whom has ever changed it has asked me in advance, and I think there are 2.
B
RE Band set up times etc. My husband has played in several bands and it has occurred to me to mention that there are several factors that may effect time spent doing all the laborious activities associated. If the band played at a certain venue the night before, it is common for the band to leave the set up from the night before & just take their guitars etc with them. This reduces the time to be there before playtime significantly. Also, some venues provide in house sound boards, persons etc. This may never come into account, but before we discount any certain situations because of time, we should just keep that in the back of our minds.
In thinking of what Morgan’s intentions may have been that night, I think it has come down to a few basic situations for me. Of coarse this is based on our limited facts.
A: Either she was very buzzed and needed air, to be sick or whatever, she lands outside & cannot get back in. She then wanders about surveying her options. She may have decided to get a ride to where the faraway guy was that was playing as this scene may have felt safe, & possibly thinking her friends would hookup later or in the AM. She gets hooked up with psychos she knew or thought she knew for a ride there.
B: She knowingly goes outside to meet up with someone on false pretenses, possibly thinking she could get back stage for meet & greet or the like, and is quickly abducted in RV lot. Here I think it would be perp(s) in a van, or similiar situation.
Or, C: she gets outside over a goofy messup on her part, cant re-enter, & hears of a favorite playing locally with the promise of a ride back & that doesnt happen. Lots of detours on the way & horrible things occur. Any of these would include stopping at 7-11, a private home or drinking stop. I wonder who she spoke with after she fell w/ her camera & went to the BR, is that where the need to go outside happened at the prompting of another?
Just rambling……..And again thank you all very much for all the prayers & good wishes, it made my heart bigger.
phyl, what i have told myself is that they are creating their fear so that they can face it,.art supposedly does heal.i hope so.
Danielle, Sounds like just a rumor, but who knows. LE asked people to search their hearts and minds to see if an acquaintance or family member could have been involved. I know the prevailing thought is that the perpetrator is here in the Charlottesville area. Could be true, but just as much of a chance he’s far away from the area. After all, we know that this concert drew people from all over Virginia and from states as far away as NJ. Without a known suspect, for now it’s just a theory that this evil person remained in the area after Morgan’s death. I do agree that it seems most likely the perpetrator is familiar with the area. That was my thought from the day I heard Lt. Rader’s statement about location, location, location. It also seems likely that the perpetrator at one time lived in or spent considerable time here and knew of the remoteness of the back acreage of the farm. In this society when people move from town to town and state to state, he could be here, he could be anywhere. This would be especially true if his familiarity with the farm occurred while attending UVa. The only thing we know for sure is that he was in Charlottesville on the night of the 17th. I don’t believe LE is making the mistake of only considering Charlottesville/Albemarle for their pool of potential suspects. I think that is the reason Lt. Rader emphasized that people should consider the history of the farm. It has to be a daunting task to try to compile a list of everyone who had access to the farm while also knowing that the perpetrator could have just happened on the location, or has only a passing knowledge of the area. By that I mean, he could be familiar with and is able to negotiate our terrain in central Virginia in the dark while not actually having ever set foot on the farm before the night Morgan was killed.
susanm says:
March 21, 2010 at 12:27 pm
“danielle, could they be talking about the rso ,from roanoke ,drew clark,whose was wanted,looks like they found him ,his picture was updated feb. 18 th.”
Is this the White Shadow person that was mentioned in earlier posts? (some time back in Nov. 2009?)
Susan,
Again, I have no idea. But that seems to fit with the “fled to North Carolina but has now returned” story. Again, I’m re-iterating that I cannot verify this information ANYWHERE so please take that into consideration.
Unless it’s really bad, I usually ignore my mistakes, but in my post dated 3/21 @ 3:05, please substitute navigate for negotiate. Guess I’m thinking about all the complaining, wrangling, dealing and negotiating going on in DC today.
anotherB says: Good point! I have no idea about the time needed to set up *really* big concerts like the ones in JPJ, but that sounds realistic. I live near a few similar venues, and they are usually busy delivering equipment etc. on the afternoon.
My guess is that they use specialized companies for transport, and that each band also has their own technicians and so on, who would be there for the day.
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Yeah there are stagehands and technicans that set everything up once it’s in the building. Then there’s the group I was referring to that only does the load in and load out. These guys just do the heavy lifting and unload the trucks and take the equipment inside – and on load out they only take the equipment once it’s boxed up and take it out to the loading docks. According to my buddy, every event that takes place at JPJA has to use this same company that provides crews to do the load in / load out. There are several that live in Charlottesville, some in Richmond and others that come up from Lynchburg. And these guys are released in the mid afternoon and just hang out around town until it’s time for the load out after the event is over.
There are other crews, many that travel with the band or whatever event it is, who actually set up the equipment and stay in the arena during the event.
I don’t know if this has been mentioned before, but I found that Stagemonkie LLC of Richmond is the company that provides labor for JPJ arena. http://www.johnpauljonesarena.com/promoter.asp
There website is here: http://stagemonkie.com and they also have a photo gallery http://www.flickr.com/photos/23121406@N07/
Phyl, Observer, et al- re: Greetings from Deadlinesville
Hey, all! I wish I could say I’ve been I’ve been working on a baseline for Phyl’s lyrics. (Suz, Josie – are you gonna be ready with your own rhymes soon?) But, in reality, I’ve been fighting my way out from under a wave of due dates, and have finally got some breathing room to try and catch up here; let it be said – this collective of firing pistons does *not* make that task easy.
I’ve been so heartened by the anti-violence activism that is beginning to bloom here, and has been further nurtured by our own Kathy and gifter3, among others, attending these conferences, advocating for the victims we’ve come to care about and demand justice for. Then we have juliemooley representin’ at Morgan’s memorial on the Copeley Bridge – and, of course, our dear, remarkable skyler, whose beautiful BOC “Rock On!” stone has landed in our hearts, prompting a ripple effect of such sentiments… Observer offering to start a PO box to receive them from all over the world and place them there… Amazing. You guys are my heros.
Oh, and Phyl, (who said:) “I like the rock idea. When they nail this guy, can we bring them to the courthouse?”
Ha! Woman, you a solid *clink* for articulating an emotion shared by just about all of us. I will paint a special stone from BOC for just such a sentiment.
ross – re: Gil treated disrespectfully on JVM (March 19, 2010 at 9:50 am)
(says:) “Write CNN, HLN, JVM, and her sponsors. Complain, and complain a lot. Do not just express your outrage here – it will do no good.
…
http://www.cnn.com/feedback/”
Thank you for the the link, ross – and for providing a tool for feedback to CNN. (That was just shameful.) Your link will be my next stop online tonight. [crackin' my knuckles already]
*clink*
B, redly – re: Whodunnit
(redly said:) “I don’t think the harrington’s have any idea who did it. I think they are trying again to stir up the community in the hopes someone will come forward.”
(B replied:) “Redly, I would disagree that they are in the ‘have no idea’ category.~B”
Gil has made a number of notable remarks to the effect of:
“This is not his first crime and he has upped his game in a significant and disturbing way.”
This seems to imply they have a hunch who the perp may be – likely an unconfirmed hunch. As they see to be aware of “his” violent criminal record – that was “upped” by Morgan’s murder – I can’t help but wonder if they’re referring to the, um, Obvious Child (living near the scene), as his record reflects same.
That said, it’s also possible that the actual perp(s) is not so “obvious” and ol’ Cheese Nip just happens to live suspiciously close to the field in which she was discovered, also referred to, interestingly, as a “hunters preserve” (Gil). I’ve read ruminations here on whether her placement on that portion of AF was partially intended to frame him, but as she was so deeply hidden, that doesn’t seem *too* likely.
On another Gil-related note, the day before MH was discovered, she wrote this in a blog entry published on the FM site (written Jan. 23):
“… I don’t think it is correct to downplay Morgan’s abduction to the community. To explain that this abduction occurred because Morgan made herself vulnerable – so not to worry – Vulnerable to what? To the PREDATOR who was there on October 17, 2009 and was still there in November. A bad event happened in Charlottesville – be known as the place where this act was NOT tolerated, not dismissed, be relentless, be clever, be resourceful, and find Morgan. Protect people rather than reputations, they are infinitely more precious.”
I’ve been looking for the Harringtons’ “November” reference, and this was the last mention before Morgan was found. I think a newer poster – Mom5? -astutely noted perhaps “in November” reflects their knowledge that her shirt was (allegedly) planted/tossed off Grady Avenue in early November, ostensibly indicating that whomever had it in their possession or on/in their property can be placed in Cville that day disposing of the shirt. (Still can’t 100-percent believe that it was hers, but I *am* convinced to accept it by sheer virtue of B’s newfound confidence in the claim’s veracity.)
(B – can you give me a subtle *wink* if the Harringtons were told about the shirt a long time ago?)
J2K-
Lovely to see you friend, as always.
You know, that is a fair and excellent question, but I maintain that I feel the Harrington’s should decide what they publicly comment on, regardless of what I may know.
I am comfortable saying I believe the Harrington’s are of the belief the shirt is Morgans.
B
belleboyd ,yes ,white shadow.i cant recall ,if it was confirmed that he was related to funeral on oct 17th?
I have no idea if the guy is involved in Morgan’s murder… but when I looked up DAC a while back when he was mentioned- wow. His face has sociopath written all over it. His name and face have always stuck in my mind. He is also large, at 6’2″ and 200 lbs.
Someone refresh my memory- is he the individual that was rumored to be in Charlottesville for a funeral on the weekend of Oct 17th?
Also, did he have any musical connections- or a connection to cheddar jumpsuit?
He is UNRELATED to the Clark family associated with that service, I verified with the family.
B
Thanks everyone for your kind comments. The conference was very educational and emotional. I don’t know how people like Blink, Monica and their crews do it daily. Last night was emotionally draining and spiritually healing at the same time. The speeches given by the families of the honored victims were heart wrenching and beautiful. The were given by the brother of Priscilla Ann Rogers, the father of Travis Lee Baker and Morgan’s parents.
I was also able to get another name for Laura mother to give to the police last. Just as the Candlelight Vigil my phone vibrated and started to ignore it. I decided to see who it was and amazingly it was a call I had been waiting for from my friend whose daughter had been caught up in this circle of friends. She called to let me know that her daughter definitely recognized Laura in her facebook profile and gave us another name to look into. My friend’s daughter was heavily into drugs at this time and can’t remember when she saw Laura last but we are hopeful it was after her mother had last heard from her. Her family had heard stories about one guy but didn’t have a last name and when I was able to supply that and his business partner’s name and the name of the company it all started to come together. The two business partners are no longer friends on facebook or myspace so they would have had a hard time making a connection. Laura was a friend of the one partner and my daughter’s ex was the other partner. I hope this makes sense, I don’t want to give out too much info as to not tip anyone off. My own daughter isn’t aware of what is going on because honestly I can’t trust that she might tip them off. It is amazing the hold an abuser can have over someone even after 18 months. We still don’t know if they have anything to do with Laura being missing but at least it opens another door to investigate and Kathy and I are bonded together for life. Because her story could have been my story if my daughter hadn’t realized the road she was going down. Sorry that this is so long Blink, but I am coming down from a very amazing weekend. Thank you Mr and Mrs Harrington for your kind words to me also.
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Kathy
http://www.ncmissingpersons.org/national-conference/
P.S. Sorry for all the typos my mind is racing faster than my fingers. LOL
Kathy
juliemooly,
The pictures are moving beyond words. You’ve done Morgan JUSTICE.
~Love~
“Whiteshadow” (RSO)was missing from Roanoke, Va. Looks like he is a member of a family with ties to North Garden. A relative’s funeral was there (Albemarle) on Oct. 17th and she is buried in a cemetary across from AF.
21.Red Hill local says:
March 20, 2010 at 3:55 pm
That’s what I’m thinking. Maybe we will have more evidence than we all can imagine when this goes to trial. Because it is!
“45.Liam says:
March 20, 2010 at 8:47 pm
Even though WT has admitted “bumping” into Ms Harrington the night she was murdered, was interviewed on tv and set up his FB page related to this, he still claims LE have not spoken to him.
If the events of that evening prior to Ms Harrington leaving the arena are insignificant then we can only assume they know the murderer and that he didnt come from inside the arena.
After all this time we still know nothing about what was said to the BB players, not one word.Why?”
“17.anotherB says:
March 21, 2010 at 11:55 am
@ Liam March 20, 2010 at 8:47 pm
Well, I recall the words “limited interaction”, but I can’t find the source at the moment. It made me wonder whether she did in fact say much. It sounded as if she was disoriented.
By the way, the phrase sounds like LE jargon to me. Is that correct? Any native speakers out there? Would you use this phrase in everyday life?”
anotherB:
Did I miss something. Are you saying that Morgan had talked to Mr. Townsend? Because he never said that he did. Morgan walked past him and he saw her. 99% sure!
To be fair to him, he always said that we can ask him anything.
Well, here goes.
Did Morgan talk to you or more importantly anyone else, that memory serves you or did you just see her walking past, in the vendor area?
And, Liam: Are you saying that LE “still” hasn’t spoken to Wayne?
For the love of God, he saw her!
I would like to know if any of the UVA bbplayers are having a difficult time dealing with what we all have learned about the last minutes of Morgan’s life. If it is hard for those of us who have never met her or her family, and we never spoke to her. I can only imagine their sorrow. I hope that they have good support networks around them, too. They must feel sadness and sympathy toward the Harrington Family. How could they not. We leave rocks. I wonder if they or their families have conveyed their feelings of deepest sympathies to them? Just wondering. I never saw or met Morgan but I sent my! It’s called common deciency! I know that they felt pain but I’m thinkin’ that theirs paled incomparison’s to Morgan’s. For that matter, I would if Wayne sent his along? After one finds out about such horrors, you send your sympathies.
There is nothing deceptive about me or any blog site names that I have used, and It does not state anywhere on this site about using any particular name at any time. I can’t help but at this juncture to entirely remove myself from ever submitting useful information to the readers on here, especially since you have so much personal discretion as to what is relevant to a situation or not.
Due to your rudeness I most certainly wont be back just as other users that I have read whom also feel the same way, I am continually blasted by your rudeness, and just for the record I am not here for you or to give you my suggestions, I was here for Morgan.
Good Luck Nancy Drew !
I have NEVER, EVER been rude to you. You have been manic with O/T and unsubstantiated rants and I have bent over backwards to weed through anything postable in an effort to allow you to participate.
If your interested in helping Morgan than perhaps you might stop attempting to force feed baseless allegations against people and contribute, instead of coming on here to insult me because I will not subject the good readers of this site to such drivel.
You are done here, my sincere best wishes on YOUR blog or site you develop.
B
Wow, Danielle, I’m sitting here literally w/ my mouth hanging open — I’ve been busy all day and just turned on the computer —
That’s a wild statement — now, my imagination goes wild (seems to be the word of the day == : ) — but I wonder if the nephew is in Roanoke or Cvlle —
Thanks for answering — that’s pretty specific info, even based on rumor — which means at least they are investigating —
w/ all the silence from LE and Geller’s statement that there is no POI, I was wondering ….
Thanks, again, for your post !!!
To Suz and Observer — Suz, cool postcard — I absolutely can remember seeing that picture and the article and discussing it w/ the attys — thanks for the link —
Observer, you are always coming up w/ such wonderful memories — what a wonderful life you’ve had — maybe to balance the scales a little on the tragic loss of your baby brother : )
Be careful on vacation !! But enjoy yourself to the max !!!
Chad — sorry, Blink, this is OT, but interesting —
I’m a huge Led Zepplin fan — Stairway to Heaven was chosen as all time best rock song over and over and over —
I saw an interivew w/ Jimmy Page and he said the look to the west was his move to California from England and all the references to “glitters is gold” — is California being the Golden state, etc.
I was always trying to read all this mysterious meaning into that song, when it’s really about moving to California ….
I love that song, and I bet Morgan loved it, too — thanks for posting those lyrics !
J to the absolute K — so glad to see you back !!! I was wondering if you were under deadline pressures —
Blink, you never cease to amaze me w/ your behind-the-scenes links and sources !
I will never again in my life use the word “integrity” without thinking about you and this “news” source and that you kept the information about Morgan’s brutal murder private — you will always have my deepest affection and respect because of it — I can’t wait to see the people your children grow up to be : )
And I bet your dad found Morgan and said: that’s my girl !!
@ fish March 21, 2010 at 8:16 pm
Sorry, should have made that clear, I was referring to the question about the basket ball players! I recall that she had “limited interaction” with people outside the arena. Found the source in the meantime:
http://www.readthehook.com/blog/index.php/2009/10/28/on-the-bridge-morgan-harrington-last-seen-over-train-tracks/
It just doesn’t sound as if she was ok – or if they had any deeper conversation about something.
localcvillegirl says March 20, 2010 at 12:08 pm – I couldn’t imagine actually living near Cville and the fear you all must be feeling. I sincerely hope one of the suggestions you offered is the case. Of course, my mind goes in the opposite direction, i.e. LE cover-up b/c BG is related to so-and-so who gave alot to my re-election campaign/or, is the nephew of my captain/chief/secretary who knows too much dirt on me/or, insertsomeotherseedyreasonhere. I really hope none of those things are true. My hope is that LE has their eye on someone and are just taking their time to ensure a successful prosecution. BUT, the recent comments by the Harrington’s seem contrary to LE’s reserved approach. That it is what makes me wonder why…
Danielle – I do hope you are correct and Morgan will have justice soon.
There is one thing I find very disturbing. Mrs. Harrington mentioned authorities said that Morgan was provocatively dressed.
Now, I could understand if the family of the bad guy would say that, and also the common bigot – but “authorities”? Does that mean that investigators don’t take the matter seriously? Not warning women in the area could have various reasons – maybe they know that the person of interest is not a danger at the moment, or they don’t want to cause a panic, or they don’t want C’ville to appear dangerous.
But these are very different motives. This here is actually blaming the victim for a crime, and finding an excuse for the murderer.
Robert Plant once stated that the song was “…a women’s quest for spiritual perfection” and “.. a simple wedding song”
Hi Skyler:
Very interesting. I have always loved this song. Yes, there is no doubt that Morgan probably did loved this song.
Although,certainly appreciate your perspective, interestingly I have never heard that connection before. there really isn’t any documented interpretation of the song. The band members themselves answers are mysterious as well as no committing as to the meaning.
Some of the lyrics made me think of Morgan and where she was found. I do believe that Morgan did indeed build her stairway to heaven by virtue of what she accomplished here on earth.
Musc is like Art. It is open to interpretation, and this is just my opinion. I too, also did come away with the feeling of hope, as one of the band members interpret the lyrics to mean.
Jimmy Page said, more sincerely, that the song has whatever meaning the listener wants to put to it. It was a song of hope, and also the beginning of Spring.
“Jimmy credits Roberts lyrics while Plant credits Jimmy’s magical folk to rock guitar playing. It’s obvious that the song inspired everyone in Led Zeppelin at the time.”
Notable lines include “If there’s a bussel in your hedgerow..” A bussell in your hedgerow refers to the beginning of spring. When the flora and animals, etc wake up and are new and refreshed after the winter.
Hey Blink,
I just wanted to post some photos and share some info with the group. My wife and I just got back to Charlotte from a trip to Harrisonburg, VA to see her family for the weekend. We decided to travel back to NC via route 29 and wanted to stop off and see the terrain of Red Hill Rd for ourselves. As we took a left onto Red Hill and rounded the corner to the bridge over the Hardware, we saw a truck parked at the 2nd gate as you cross the river with the door open. It was Mr. Bass and he was pulling the gate closed. I’m not sure if he had just driven out of the field and was closing the gate or if he was checking on things and noticed the gate was opened and thus closing it.
We drove on out to the intersection of Red Hill and Taylor’s Gap and then turned around to start snapping a few photos. The photos are very similar to those that Christy posted a few weeks back. A few things stood out to me though. In the link below, there are 6 photos. Photo 6 of 6 is the first gate before you cross the Bridge at the hardware (note the no tresspassing sign is laying broken on the ground in the lower right hand corner). Photo 5 of 6 is looking from that same gate back towards the field. What stands out to me is that there really doesn’t appear to be a path. If this gate was used often, I would expect more of a visable path, discoloration of the grass, etc.
Photo 4 is the 2nd gate after you cross the river (this is where Mr. Bass was today). If you look at photo 3, the grass appears to be discolored and it looks as those a path or tracks are evident here. If Mr. Bass was coming out of the field today, then perhaps this is the more traveled gate access? Which seems odd to me because if you look at the google earth maps, the first gate would get closer to the location of Morgan’s body while dealing with less of the land “defects” that you get going through the 2nd gate.
Photos 1 and 2 are interesting to me if you believe that 1920 Red Hill Rd is important to the case. Surprisingly, there were people working on the house today. I’m pulled off on the side of the road and you can see 1920 in photo number 2. Photo 1 is in the same location out of the driver side window. This gate has a clear path through the woods. From this location, it would be almost a straight shot down to Morgan’s body. This gate is MUCH less obvious than the other 2 and has a defined path. However, there is a lock on it. The question is whether that lock was there on 10/17. Thoughts from anyone?
http://s738.photobucket.com/albums/xx24/RUHokieHi/
alexandra – re: The Crime Scene
(said:)”This type assault can’t happen inside a car, in the passenger seat.”
Great point.
B – are you aware if *the* crime scene has been determined?
Cat further rolls out the thought balls…
“… On another note, I am aware that statistical data indicates that “the body dump site” is RARELY farther than 170 feet (57 yards) from the “crime scene”. Meaning, Morgan’s body, at the time of her killing, was most likely not moved more than this distance. This specifies to me that the scene of the crime was around the vicinity of AF, either in a vehicle, or at another isolated place. If vehicle access exceeds the distance where she was located, she was most likely killed outside, making AF or the surrounding wooded area the scene of the crime.”
… and Kim and juliemooley, among others, are thus taking another look at vacant/not fully built properties in the vicinity of AF:
(Kim – to jmoo – said:) “Just bringing us back to 1920 Red Hill. Has that (or any) local residences been searched? Blink, can you tell us if any houses/buildings anywhere at all have been thoroughly searched for evidence of Morgan?…”
Along this whole line of thought, it stands to reason that certain injuries to her body reflect the likelihood of certain crime scenes over others (per alexandra’s point). To wit, a strangulation or beating about the head could feasibly happen in a vehicle; full-body damage, binding, and, say, wounds to the back or ribs would indicate that the deadly assault happened in a less-confined area, i.e., inside a structure or at a secluded outdoor area.
Gil’s references to her daughter’s broken bones and the other hints at brutality that she noted on her corpse seem to point more toward the fact that – at least some of – the injuries occurred in an open space.
One crime that came to mind was the horrific 1996 murder of Aimee Willard – a college lacrosse player who was driving home from a bar late at night and got (purposely) bumped by a vehicle behind her on an off-ramp, then beaten and taken from the scene (car was found idling where she stopped), raped and – at some point – run over by the killer, leaving extensive bodily injuries and ridge/burn marks from the car’s distinctive oil pan (that were eventually used to help convict the murderer… who was on parole from a life sentence.)
I can’t go too far speculating on her attack (I have a hard time reading some of your detailed deductions), but if she was assaulted or got into a fatal skirmish with the perp inside a vehicle or at a nearby camp site/vacant structure, additional signs of significant trauma could have come from dragging her body from the vehicle once a mile into AF (near the treeline), then [shudder] running her over for good measure.
Definitely brutal, but at that point for the killer(s), there was no turning back and he/they were most likely in a large, heavy all-terrain vehicle/Jeep. I suppose it would depend on the level of her body’s exposure to the elements and decomp as to whether any indication of such vehicular abuse could still be detected.
ConcernedBystander – re: Boys In Black, et al
(CB said:) “The other day I was talking to a friend of mine who works occasionally on crews that helps do load in’s/load out’s for events at JPJA. He said for load in, for a 8pm event, the crew is released around 2-3pm and then they don’t come back until after the even it over. He said he usually grabs something to eat and then either wanders around campus or goes hang out at the downtown outdoor mall area until time to come back.
I obviously have no idea who the four boys in black are, but it does make me wonder if they could’ve been part of this crew that was just hanging around waiting for the event to end before they had to go back to work.”
Now there’s an Ah-Ha angle to ponder… So, your friend indicated local crews are tapped on occasion/regularly(?) through the JPJ to load in/out national touring acts? And these employees(?) are largely unaccounted for during the performances? (They wouldn’t be allowed/in a position to see Metallica??)
Regardless, these four young white guys walking away from the arena with MH and ending up in the RV lot with her between at least 9 and 9:10 p.m. *are* unaccounted for in regard to this case. I want to know if these dudes have been identified – and I want to know if they’re on LE’s radar. (And I want to know now! [stomp foot/almost knocks laptop to the floor])
Lastly, Diane H. says:
“… So… let’s see if we have this straight… The only two witnesses who seem to be believed, by LE, as to the last movements of Morgan are WT, seemingly hinting that Morgan was buying beer underage, and the young woman, MV, who claims to have seen her hitch-hiking. Both things paint Morgan in a negative light to LE.”
Not to bore everyone by trotting out my tried-and-true defense of LE’s knowledge of events vs. that of the public, but I submit that there are many more credible witnesses that LE accessed and used to construct the timeline and likely events prompting MH’s actions up until she went missing around 9:30 p.m. Just because WT, MV(? – don’t even know who that is) or even DG chose to speak to the press or otherwise publicly share their glimpses of/interaction with of her that night does not mean they are the only people who saw/interacted with her – it does not even mean they were “believed.”
LE has stated they are “confident” that she made it through the points in the timeline and was hitchhiking on the bridge – that may not mean they’re 100% right, but it does mean they compiled accounts from a multitude of witnesses (most of whom kept *that* interaction private) to craft those aspects of her night.
Post-LastlyO/T:
suz – re: “Hell No We Won’t Glow!”
Thank you for sharing those postcard images… just awesome! Between that, your clever posts, and the bovine psychological profiles you sporadically provide (The. Best.), you’re certainly stone-worthy, my friend.
B – re: (Hmmm… no comment on my Cheese Nip ruminations, ay?)
“I am comfortable saying I believe the Harrington’s are of the belief the shirt is Morgans.~B”
Then I am comfortable believing you.
It’s remarkable that whomever had that shirt – perp or not – would feel comfortable draping it somewhere, clearly, to be found. That time period would have been just as the case was getting increasing media coverage and had been definitively deemed a criminal investigation. As she was already dead at that point (more than two weeks after she disappeared), that was a Bold move… Though, one that appears to have offered LE surprisingly few leads.
Agreed. Bold- statement worthy even-
I am not sure it did not progress leads, but I completely agree it took awhile.
B
Hey everybody,
Sorry to be so long silent but I’ve been following. I’ve been hampered by a crackdown at work on internet usage (the nerve!) so I’m not able to participate as often as I used to but I do follow daily and am as always astounded at the brain power and love of all here.
The issue of the shirt has nagged at me. The article below states there was a shirt specially made for Morgan to wear to the Metallica concert and it was displayed at the reception following her memorial service. Does anyone else find this odd? If it was specially made, why did she opt for a different one? Does this have anything to do with the fact no pictures of Morgan have been released from that night? Surely this isn’t THE shirt, right?
“Behind the table was a clothesline featuring T-shirts from her high school volleyball team, Virginia Tech and a black shirt made for the Metallica concert she attended in Charlottesville the night she went missing. Gil Harrington said while she had some ideas for what to put on display, she eventually had a family friend make the final decisions.”
http://www.collegiatetimes.com/stories/14987/going-away-party-commemorates-harrington
If this has been discussed and put to rest during my employer-imposed hiatus from BOC, I apologize!