Morgan Harrington Murder: Picture of Morgans Boot Released
Charlottesville, VA– Morgan Harringtons killers have not been apprehended.
Morgan was brutally slain, presumably, the evening of October 17th, 2009 after she went missing from the John Paul Jones Arena, located on the grounds of The University of Virginia. Her remains were recovered on January 26th, 2010 on the grounds of Anchorage Farm in Charlottesville, VA.
There have been countless witness accounts and reported sightings of Morgan since she vanished from JPJ, most of which, have been prefaced by stating “ or a person matching Morgan’s description”, so we are truly left to sift through what is accurate, and what is a well intentioned bystander.
One of the most conflicting item descriptions, is that of the boots she was wearing that fateful evening.
Below is a picture of the boot Morgan was wearing the evening of October 17, 2009, as confirmed by Morgan’s Mother Gil Harrington, to be “spot on”.
As you can see, it has no laces, and a cuff of approximately 3” that can be worn EITHER at the knee, or above, as reported by the witness who believes she saw Morgan walking away from JPJ with 4 men young men dressed in black, and again in the lot adjacent to Uhall.
Additionally confirmed to blinkoncrime.com, Morgan was wearing “footless” tights or leggings, which would require additional socks.
Morgan was known for the very distinctive socks she wore under these boots.
There is currently a $150,000 reward for information leading to the arrest and conviction for anyone responsible for the death of Morgan Harrington.
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Oh my Goodness. The Boots. What are we to do? God help the person that robs a body of their earthly possessions! It is enough that you took someone’s life but then to steal from them!
Do they have the boots and the necklace and the camera??
Ok, what if we believe the newspaper lady. Morgan is not wearing tights, maybe not even a shirt, and is leaving room on the pavillion. What girl was in this room? Did she have a brother, cousin, or friend that borrowed it because they were in for Metallica and she was out of town? The shirt ends up over by Mr. Shores apartment. Drummer for BelleMorte. Maybe it is a friend or not a friend of his? Four BIB, A stalker type. I’m asking is all. I’m thinking that this is strange.
Where did the newspaper lady say they were going? Which way? Did she even say? And, then could we believe the sighting at the Sheets, in Orange? Maybe Morgan made it to the next day but she was drugged and held against her will and in fear? Maybe they threatened her family. Think of Elizabeth Smart! They threatened to kill her family if she didn’t go.
No DNA back yet but I’m thinking the Tox Screen is.
Blink: Not that it matters one iotta (dont even know how to spell that) but that is definetly not the boot we were told to look for. I am proof positive.
Can anyone else chime in on this!!!!
We were told a low heel, rounded toe! I knew that information may have been hard to come by and there could have been some misinformation but I believed what I was told. I am no longer!!!
This makes me incrediably saddened and now jaded to ever lend a hand ever again! What could it have hurt to put out accurate information, a description, a photo, anything? I do not think that I heard differently. I know what I heard. Meanwhile, there is a group of sick, violent individuals that are walking upright tonight!
And shame on you Sarah, Dan, and Amy, you knew what Morgan had on that night! You have photos and you did not offer them? Oh wait, I suppose I’m stupid and you told police and her father what happened to her, being locked out, and have photos. Oh wait, you did but just a day late and dollar short.
Sarah weren’t you in that room when the boot comment was made? I guess you were under court-order to remain silent.
By the way, just a question…Was one of the people Morgan said she was going with related to any one of you? Oh wait, you don’t know because she just said she would hitch a ride. I guess you all are really shitty friends. I want to say “get a life” but oh wait, you already have yours and Morgan well…
Next time, I see you around town, I’m asking you! Who did Morgan say she was going to go with, who was her ride, where was she going to go if she did get that ride? A place in Cville, Hburg, Crozet, or Roanoke? And go ahead, call the police, maybe they will arrest me! Somebody should be arrested! I’m so upset, mad, and whatever else one can think of. But before, I get off of her friends…
I HOPE YOU ARE GETTING HELP KIDS!!
Man Blink, you said you gauge the responses after a clue/whatever is put out there. Well, there probably will be a good deal to read and interpret. This is unbelievable on so many levels.
I’m upset and should just go ahead and delete this. It sickens me. Is there some sort of corruption and someone is being protected? How about UVA? Could this be someone’s kid or cousin? Could money be changing hands. I can’t help but go to this place. The comment about the boots at the search! Maybe it was innocent and matter of interpretation. I don’t know. I don’t know jack. I’m just a mom, who on her vacation with her own kids, thinks of this beautiful girl, taken so young in life, taken away from her brother, parents, and family and yes, friends. Even those friends. I’m a sutpid mom blogging on theories that I have absolutely no idea of what I’m doing, what are any of us doing? Law Enforcement has the answers but no primary crime scene!
Forget it and just delete this post. To think that I thought I had accurate information when I walked those fields, down into the brush, into an aquduck (dont even know how to spell that), tore my shirt, lost my prescription sunglasses, left my kids,(btw, boohoo on me) and saw all those people there thinking the same thing as me. They were good people. I, we were mislead. I guess we have to chalk it up to confusion. University of Virginia never had this happen before. Whatever I mean about that.
Did we have accurate information? Enough to look for what we needed to be looking for. I don’t think so.
Meanwhile, I live in fear everytime my kid gets on the bus, that someone may grab her. So I take a photo. Walk a day in my shoes and see why I do it!
Blink you are doing the work of an entire department!
You have my support, not that it means anything!
and I am in awe!
But this new information makes me have a huge lump in my throat.
God Bless Morgan and her family that is left to deal with this tragedy.
WHY couldn’t we have a photo of her that night? It seems so many saw her but yet, no one for sure! We have photos and videos of so many that go missing. I think of the med school student in Ohio that is shown on the escalator and then just vanishes into thin air. The baby that’s carried to her death, on video in a Marriott!
If Morgan’s kicked him and left a mark, I hope that it scarred and he sees it everyday, along with someone else in his life!!
Blink, I now also believe that there is no way that any one of us can help. We just banter around ideas with no actual information that can help. It is all for what? Justice? We were depending upon LE and well, I’m dismayed, sickened, and saddened beyond belief.
With that off my chest…
KICK ASS, JERSEY GIRL, KICK SOME ASS!!!
delete if you want. i am a total loss.
skyler, this morning when i was researching brutal killers I was reading about one guy who brutally stabbed his victim and ALSO hit her with his car. I guess just about anything is possible (especially since we don’t know any details about what bones were broken—does it show defensive wounds? random cruelty? overpowering violence to subdue her? It’s all so awful)
this was posted by Duannah on the findmorgan.com website on the thread about the boots — I was never aware of this information, which comes from the Scared Monkeys — if this sighting is credible — it throws everything about the case off — it means she was on UVA campus w/ the famous BIB and gives Norma Parsons’ (newspaper lady) account credibility — everything else in this case is so bizarre I guess it is possible that there was a look-alike Morgan walking on the UVA campus w/ three males — but geeze — what gets me the most — the posting claims no one ever followed up w/ this couple’s story — back to the damn pissin’ contest — growl !!
As you read this, keep in mind the “official” LE timeline has the last Morgan sighting as approximately 9:30 PM on Copeley Bridge — this is so shocking and heart breaking — I know it’s a long shot — but if this is Morgan and if it was Morgan spotted by Ms. Parsons around 3:00 AM — that means she may have still been alive on Sunday when the Harringtons contacted LE — I mean, even if they can’t file an “official’ missing persons report — they could have put the donuts in the car w/ them and done some investigating and searching “unofficially” — And I have to bear in mind, even if they had gone out searching and taken it seriously, they may not have found anything — but Ms. Parsons has seen at least one of the boys since that night and all she wanted was to point them out to LE — she was given the excuse that they can’t just grab someone and put them in a lineup — but they can grab them on campus and ask questions — and spring break is coming up and soon school will be let out for the summer — I hope the FBI will contact Ms. parsons — sit her down w/ a UVA yearbook — see if she can identify the person in that manner, or at least question her where she’s seen that person again — if it’s the Lawn, that’s not a heavily populated living area — you have to be invited to live there –
this makes me so sad — hopefully, this awful event will cause all the localities in that area to receive training on how to handle a MP report — other than to say: we have to wait 48 hrs — and about the proper way to preserve evidence and not squabble over something as dumb as who has the lead in the case —
I have a new dog (still searching for my other one) — going out to walk her and think a bit –
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From Duannah at findmorgan.com
“UP DATE: At the meeting tonite an elderly couple got up and said they saw Morgan that nite on UVA Campus with 3 guys walking. They said it was near the Rotunda and Going towards the Dorm area.
Funny thing is at 3:30 or so in the morning the News Paper Delivery Person stated also that she saw Morgan with 3 Guys on Campus. That tells me that 3 people saw her with the same guys and the same area that she was probably headed to their “place” where ever that is. Her friends have said all along that she told them she could get a way back. I do believe these guys or at least one or two of them she “Knew” or maybe her brother knew.
The elderly couple said they called to report this and no one returned their call so they came to the meeting to complain and finally get to tell someone what they saw. Sounds like this could be something and if it is I hope she is still with these guys and OK. ! Maybe scared and the guys are overwhelmed now because they are scared about their future. We will see how this plays out. Just wanted to pass this along for what it is worth. Take Care.”
from scared monkeys:
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6318.260;wap2
Just when I thought I was staying in lurk mode…not even going to reference previous posts…just summarizing some thoughts…
If Morgan was indeed seen on the LAWN, and according to witness statement, she also recognized one of the BIB’s on the LAWN at a later date, that tells me that one or more of the BIB’s may be students, or, if townies, on the LAWN fairly frequently. Indicates to me one or more were possibly selling drugs to students, and I have discounted the drug dealing connection until now. Perhaps the male student who claimed, loosely paraphrased “no blond girls live close by” has a vested interest in denying, because maybe he gets his drugs from the BIB’s.
As for the statement re: eyewitnesses, that “the mind is not a camera.” For most of us that is true, but, there are people with photographic memory whose minds do indeed function like cameras. The degree of accuracy of details may vary, but I think the lady recalled remarkable detail, and was honest, in that she even admitted that she couldn’t tell about length of the hair because it was tucked into the jacket. Seems that, if Morgan had been partying with these fellows, they took her into a “friendly” dorm room, she was cold, they gave her a jacket or she had her own (still unverified, I think.) Then, they exited to go somewhere else. If she did spend time in the dorm room, no telling what went down. Morgan may have removed her own stockings, as they may have been wet or sweaty from walking around, thus making her feet colder. She may have fiddled with the boots, unfolding them to cover the knee.
Anyway, if she was hanging with the 4 BIB’s, they may have gone several places during the night, and since we know nothing about the BIB’s, they could have been under the influence of any number of substances, and things in their minds went one way, and Morgan still thought she was safe. Maybe even safe enough to remove her boots at some point because her danged feet were hurting from walking around so much. If the boots were taken off in the perp’s vehicle, that is likely where they were left, then discarded later.
Anyway, this whole boot thing now makes the early morning sighting more credible in my mind, and, likely that while WE don’t know who BIB’s are, the possibility that one or more could be students lining their pockets by selling drugs, some entity has a stake in downplaying their possible involvement.
When students sell drugs, there is usually a local connection. 4 BIB’s might have included students and locals. That makes it even more difficult to identify them. BUT, with diligent investigation, SOMEBODY on that campus could shed some light on the identities of one or more of them. Hopefully that thorough investigation has already been done, and LE knows enough to eliminate, or finger them, as POI’s.
I’m just mystified about this whole boot-detail misinformation/disinformation thing. Maybe a man doesn’t know the difference between an espadrille and a flip-flop, but most women (and most eyewitness accounts have been from women) d*#$@’d sure know the difference between a lace-up Doc Martin and a fold-over, high heeled, pointy-toed black boot. And those details are important.
Both witness accounts, independent of each other corraborated that the boots had high heels. The opposite was published and promoted, which was successfull on placing Morgan AWAY from the LAWN.
I learned a new word today. It doesn’t rhyme with garden, but it works. “pedoagogical”.
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where was the opposite published and promoted?
Thanks Mary. Hi!
Skyler, said:
And Farmer Bass stated he saw “toes” so if Morgan’s boots and socks were w/ her, they were no longer on the body —
now, I can fully understand that her boots may have come off once her body deteriorated — if they were leather, it is absolutely possible there was animal predation — they could have grabbed them and her foot slipped right out — but socks ?
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IMO,
If Mr. Bass saw something dead, clearly identified by ‘toes’ and ‘fingers’ and a skull that did not look like a deer, then the boots were taken off before she died and were laying near the scene or were not found at the scene at all.
If she died with the boots on, and her body began to decompose…if animals came and pulled at the boots they, IMO, wouldn’t simply ‘slip off of her feet’. It’s a struggle to get tight fit boots off my feet any day! If an animal came by and tugged at the boots that were on a badly decomposed body, then the toes would have gone with that boot and Mr. Bass would not have been able to see these ‘toes’ that helped him identify it as human remains…because they would be inside that boot. The leather boots wouldn’t have deteriorated over the few months she was out there.
JMO
Morgan’s boots were not found with her, and it is my opinion they were not on her when she was placed at AF. TDBone- Your a mapping savant, you know that, right?
B
My 17-year-old daughter and I just got back from touring prospective universities. One of the schools we went to was UVA. It has a great music department and she is interested in going to this school. While we were there, we placed several rocks at Morgan’s Memorial. It was a very important statement made to my daughter while she placed a rock at the bridge. I pointed out Skyler’s beautiful painted rock while we looked at all the other mementos. I was a little sad as there were not a lot of rocks at this memorial–in fact very few. Maybe I was too optimistic that people would be adding rocks and the bridge would be really filled. I think every woman on campus should make this part of their reality. This was a beautiful young woman whose life ended in an horrific way. Maybe the students don’t know about this rock memorial. College students are always up for making a statement. I don’t understand the lack of rocks. In any case, I hope my daughter chooses another school.
I like this link Blink thank you.
Blink is it possible that Morgan left with 4 MIB who she may have known all or a few and felt comfortable with and they took her to a party let’s say in the Northern Garden area and at this party she met some really bad men. The original MIB had to go so left her there.
another local missing person – not too far from Anchorage Farm. Just thinking if there might be a connection….
August 27, 2009
Fluvanna County officials hope a new cash reward of up to $10,000 will help bring closure to a five-year missing person’s cold case and resolution to the family.
On September 1, 2004, Jesse Morgan Hicks, Jr. disappeared without any apparent reason. According to the Fluvanna County Sheriff’s Office, Hicks was last seen driving his 2004 maroon Ford F-150 truck around 12:30 p.m. in the Blenheim area of Albemarle County. Hicks last spoke to a friend on that September day around 2:00 p.m. No one has seen or heard from Hicks since, including his wife and family.
Four days later on September 5, 2004, Jesse Hicks’ Ford F-150 was found abandoned in a parking area off Route 29, near the intersection with Route 6 in Nelson County.
Over the last five years, investigators with the Fluvanna County Sheriff’s Office say they have investigated several leads in the case, but still lack key information needed to locate the missing man.
A cash reward of up to $10,000 is available to anyone who can provide information leading to Hicks’ location.
If anyone has any information about Jesse Morgan Hicks, Jr.’s disappearance, they’re asked to call Crime Stoppers at 434-977-4000 or Investigator Thomas Brennan of the Fluvanna County Sheriff’s Office at 434-589-8211.
http://www.charlottesvillenewsplex.t…/55430177.html
That is a cool boot. The more I know about Morgan the more I like her.
I said, and am having to re-think my own logic:
“Perhaps the male student who claimed, loosely paraphrased “no blond girls live close by” has a vested interest in denying, because maybe he gets his drugs from the BIB’s.”
OK, if he said no blonds live close by, that would indicate that to his knowledge, no blonds lived close by, therefore, any blond seen there would have been an outsider. So, I guess his statement in and of itself would eliminate an easy explanation of who that blond might be. And, not necessarily a defensive statement, as my previous post implies. So, nothing derogatory toward that student, his statement, if we are hearing it accurately, actually supports the possibility that it was Morgan or a look-a-like on the premises. And, I retract any inference that this student might have been purchasing from BIB’s. Not a fair statement on my part.
Okay. I’m gonna just go ahead and get this out there…”and the devil take the hindleg”…as my granny used to say. FACT (one of the few in this case): Morgan was walking in the general direction as some members of the University of Virginia basketball team, limited interaction was had by same, last contact: RV Lot/Lannigan Field Parking Area. Purse and cell phone minus battery found in/somewhere near/around RV Lot/Lannigan Field Parking Area. Dubious yet loudly- pronounced-to-be-gospel accounts of hitchhiking less than 0.10 mile from RV Lot/Lannigan Field Parking Area. Public statements by said members of UVa basketball team: Zero.
Question: COULD MORGAN HARRINGTON HAVE BEEN WALKING WITH WHITE BASKETBALL PLAYERS (IN BLACK WARMUPS) INTO RV LOT? Would it affect your opinion in the case? Not saying that’s what I believe, but in the interest of true justice, if we do not fully vet the basketball players, we have done an injustice to Morgan Harrington.
I know Morgan’s final location has had us all bamboozled, but there have been some intimations that college fraternities may have some knowledge of AF. Combine that with some posters’ feelings of more than one perpetrator and you possibly have perp+older more influential possibly frat-associated CYA agent. I for one have been very interested in the music connection, and in Cheesy, but when I look at the FACTS as we have been dealt them: there’s the RV lot, and there’s Morgan, and there’s the basketball players, and there’s the Boys In Black and then POOF. When last we discussed this, it was uncomfortable because of the race thing. But WHAT IF the group of white guys were BB players too? It’s not impossible people! I am white and I can dance!
Ya’ll, back in the day I had a pair of tan suede over-the-knee boots that I will NEVER forget. You could wear them as regular knee-high boots but who would want to? I love Morgan Harrington.
Does anyone know the last names of the couple whose wedding was held October 17, 2009 and whose reception was held at Pavilion VII?
Is there a possible connection with a wedding guest being someone Morgan knew, possibly even her ex bf?
Does anyone know names of musicians providing music for the wedding held that day?
If Morgan was actually on UVA’s campus and seen by the newspaper lady, didn’t the lady say she had a background in art and could sketch one of the guys? I think I remember, too that she saw him the following night??? I could possibly be wrong.
Haha. Thanks Blink. If ya ever want any ideas or things mapped out…hit me up.
Thanks friend, will do.
B
http://peacecommunities.org/lovepeaceandjoy/?p=132
Mary, I know, it breaks my heart. I always feel so good when I have on my best kick-a** boots.
Skyler, you said “I hope the FBI will contact Ms. parsons — sit her down w/ a UVA yearbook” — my friend, forget the yearbook; I want to sit her down in front of all of our computers. I have all kinds of faces and pictures I’d like her to look at. I also want to help her find a different job, or at least a different route. Bless her for the persistence she showed, whether or not it was Morgan she saw.
Fish and Skyler, I want to scream too. I feel your frustration in your posts, and OMG Fish, the betrayal you feel after you gave your all in that search.
Sigh.
I have a sleeping husband who cannot answer me, and this has been bugging me after my research today. In which building(s) is(are) the UVa Bio lab(s)? Nothing crazy yet, just trying to map out some stuff on Grounds.
Acho – The Biology Department is in Gilmer Hall.
8.Holly says:
April 1, 2010 at 8:41 pm
My 17-year-old daughter and I just got back from touring prospective universities. One of the schools we went to was UVA. …….In any case, I hope my daughter chooses another school.
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Holly I understand your concern, but UVA really is a marvelous school and my daughter’s only regret is that she has to graduate next year…I pray that when all is said and done on this case and justice is finally served, that UVA admin, students, LE, basketball players, etc. are not implicated in any way…I have real faith that no one at the school will be involved….the dangers for young women (I know, and men) unfortunately are everywhere, any school….so sad but so true
re: mary
Hi mary- Good thought on the BB players. However, only 4 of the 15 players listed on their squad are white. Virginia has dark navy blue and orange in their colors, but not black. Players shower after practice and wear street clothes home. They could have “team” apparel, such as jackets-etc.- but I doubt they would be wearing “matching” clothes. Also, in my VERY humble opinion, I seriously doubt all 4 white guys would be in a group together. Odds are against it. Possible though.
one thing to add as fact if we believe the west lawn siting…. the emergency medical dispatch sent there around the same time of the sighting… last time i looked, the case report was still open in the police files
Skyler
Is the FB invite for everyone or just the people you named?
Maps of UVA
http://www.virginia.edu/webmap/
Acho I think the bio labs are still in Gilmer Hall on McCormick, or maybe the building right next to Gilmer. Across from the “old” dorms, and near the intersection with Alderman.
RE: the boots: My sense from this BOC article is that this information about the boots Morgan was wearing on the evening of Oct. 17, 2009 was not a release by LE/VSP, but has been shared by B in cooperation with Gil Harrington. To the best of my knowledge, LE has released no official information on same.
I am not of the mind that LE has promulgated intentional or deliberate mis-information in this regard; rather, I believe that earlier mis-information regarding Morgan’s boot(s), e.g., found near Wild Wings Café or Buffalo Wild Wings (“BW3“)–two separate and distinct locations in different areas of CV, found near her remains, laced-up, chunky, low-heeled, rounded-toe, uni-sex, etc. were a combination of public speculation and poor media reporting.
Absent verification to the contrary, I do not believe the above (bad) information was “published” or “promoted” by any parties with an intent to distract from UVA, the Lawn, etc. To wit: Gil Harrington was reported earlier to have said that Morgan was wearing Doc Martin’s that evening.
TO: acho and Kathy, re: background checks for the John Paul Jones arena personnel: SMG Corporation is one of several involved in the management of JPJ. I cannot speak to their pre-employment requirements, e.g., criminal history background checks, as I am unfamiliar with them. WRT RMC Events, their application requires that candidates disclose criminal history information regarding both misdemeanor and felony convictions including charge, location, date and disposition. Anyone employed at JPJ in any capacity who is an employee of the University of Virginia per se is required to submit a release for a criminal history background check prior to employment; I can verify that these background checks are conducted and completed prior to final offers of employment. This same is true for all UVA employees, without regard to status, with the express exception of faculty candidates.
RE: BIB: FWIW, I have been and remain very interested in these individuals. Emphasis on “very”.
RE: Morgan look-alikes: FWIW, As I stated on one of my earliest posts in November, there are many, many young women on the UVA Grounds (and elsewhere, I’m certain) who bear a striking resemblance to Morgan; that is, of slight build, black-clad, with long blonde hair. To wit (and from my earlier post): Only weeks after Morgan’s disappearance, I was in my car at the intersection of University Ave. and Emmet St. just before 10am on my way to a meeting at Newcomb Hall. [University Ave. intersects Copeley Rd.] As I was at stopped at the light, a young woman about Morgan’s age stopped next to me on her bicycle. She wore knee-high black boots, black stockings, a short black skirt (yes, a skirt…while riding a bicycle), a black top and had long, blonde hair. I did a double-take but immediately realized she was not Morgan. Had this sighting been during the evening, however, I could very easily have assumed this was Morgan, mistakenly believing that this look-alike was indeed she.
I offer the above not to discount the sightings of others who may have seen Morgan that evening or the following morning anywhere on the UVA Grounds, e.g., the Lawn; they may well have. [I am not in a position to say.] It is, however, to point out how easily mis-identification can occur.
TO: MarchmallowWI, re: the wedding that took place at UVA on Oct. 17, 2009, including guests, musicians, etc. at Pavilion VII: that information is easily obtained and, I believe, has been previously vetted by LE.
TO: acho, re: location of UVA bio labs: Please be more specific and I will be happy to source this information for you. [Note: With an extensive teaching/medical center there are numerous labs located all around Grounds.]
TO: Debbie Baxter, re: prosecuting this case: No comment except to say “Oh, would that I could…”
I dunno, if you already have Morgan in your lawn room and have had her there for 5.5 hours and have gotten her tights off, and now she’s quietly walking out with you wearing your coat onto a nice, quiet campus where she could signal the newspaper lady for help or make a heckuva loud ruckus at 3 a.m.(as she presumably could have done in the dorm anytime she needed to), where are you taking her, and what goes so spectacularly wrong that you brutally murder her?
I can’t connect these dots very easily. Those 5+ hours in a densely populated area are throwing me. To me, the HH that goes downhill fast and ends up in murder is more plausible—-not that colleges don’t harbor psycho killers, and that’s certainly the age that schizophrenia presents itself, but I’m still having trouble with the lawn sighting. Besides the fact that LE didn’t think the story panned out. And the dogs did hit on the bridge, and witnesses put her there.
I still think the reluctance to accept the possibility of Morgan HH or taking a ride from a stranger is a matter of cognitive dissonance and our own biases and wishes and how we’ve constructed our image of this sweet girl we’ve never met. She’s said to be acting irrationally, after all, if that helps those who hate to have her HH. Or it could be someone she interacted with in the lot swinging back to intercept her on the bridge. I’m still on the stranger weirdo, but…who knows.
acho, i found this:
Gilmer Hall houses the Biology and Psychology departments and research facilities. The building was designed in 1961-63 by Richmond architects Ballou and Justice with W. E. Stainback (Col ’28) and Louie L. Scribner (Col ’29). An addition to the building was completed in 1987. The building is named for Francis Walker Gilmer, who helped Jefferson recruit the University’s original faculty. Had he not died young, Gilmer would have been the University’s first law professor.
http://www.virginia.edu/webmap/popPages/38-GilmerHall.html
FWIW: Reported on the Charlottesville Newsplex March 30, 2010: “Gil Harrington said she is not frustrated with police. She said they are being methodical and calculated, though she said she still worries for the safety of Charlottesville’s young women. She said she thinks a killer is still on the loose.
“It’s a lot of time, but each case has their own trajectory,” Gil Harrington said.”
Gil Harrington’s thoughts from April 2, 2010
Hokie Nation:
I feel your sorrow as you brace for another blast of evil on Blacksburg – the Westboro Baptist group’s planned hate rally on April 9, 2010.
Please do not respond in kind to these domestic terrorists. Instead, be strong and let your heart lights shine – hold a concurrent silent candle light vigil in support of the Virginia Tech community as a whole and Morgan Harrington, in particular.
Protest passively to protect one of your own – your Hokie sister, Morgan Harrington from this post mortem assault. Stop evil in its tracks. Zero tolerance for hatred!
Be safe, be silent, be dignified, no arrests (of Hokies) but passively resist the evil that has come to town. We feel the sensation of the Hokie Nation and its love, love is greater than hate. Eradicate the darkness and hate of the WBC with your light.
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OK, I am convinced Morgan was who Ms. Parsons seen. It is now supported by other witnesses.
So….why is is that neither Ms. Parsons or the other witness who spoke up at the meeting have not been taken seriously by LE and the FBI.
I am coming back to…..is someone being protected OR is an image (say UVA’s image) being protected?
If so, and as if what happened to dear, precious Morgan wasn’t bad enough, if a person or persons or an institution’s image is being protected at Morgan’s cost, I hope that the guilt of what they are doing here by protecting whomever they are protecting eats away at their conscious and their soul like a termite eats away at wood until there is nothing left of it.
Is the unique socks Morgan was wearing under the boots a clue of some sort????
The more we learn about Morgan, the more there is to like about her. She had amazing style, amazing beauty, amazing personality, amazing heart, and an amazing family. Morgan (and her family) is simply amazing.
Im of the opinion that the BIB and BB players are the same people. Has there been any confirmation from LE that there was any BIB? I dont think the limo driver saw any. The fact that the BB players didnt come forward initially raises suspicion of them and i for one would be wary of ruling them out.
Dear Lord,
We pray that Morgan is at peace now, with her angel wings, basking in the warmth of your love, dancing to the music she loved so much
We pray that Dan and Gil can find peace and that your love helps heal their pain and gives them strength.
We pray for good to prevail and evil to fail, and for the safety of other young women.
Please, Lord, hear our prayers
Hi Blink
Turkeyman, in his post on October 30,2009, when referring to Morgan falling, said his daughter said that she had on High heel boots. Why did the Police tell you that her boots didn’t have high heels on them?
I think that is strange.
The police did not tell me she did not have high heel boots, they only ever referred to them as black I believe, we are not sure how the misinformation surfaced.
B
Can someone please enlighten me about the other witnesses who saw Morgan on the lawn at roughly 3am besides Mrs. Parsons?
I missed this tidbit.
Thanks.
Suz, agree completely with your 6:24am post. Not sure about stranger wierdo, however…WierdoS perhaps.
was the person who picked up Morgan and dropped her off at X location…the same person that is saying he picked up the t-shirt and flung it? IF one is saying this.
same dna (Morgan’s and his), in the vehicle and on the shirt.
How far from the bridge is the lawn? Were dogs brought to the area of the lawn?
Though not impossible, I can’t imagine someone hitchhiking. Not just Morgan but anyone (male or female) from that age group. I’m a little older than Morgan and come from a small community, It would never cross my mind to do such a thing. Regardless of it not being a “safe” thing to do, these days I feel there is no need to. I know that my father would HH back in the day, as he says it was a “cool” thing to do. But with everyone owning cars at 16 and having cell phones at 12, realistically HH is no longer necessary. Morgan was not unfamiliar with this area. I’m sure if she wanted to, she could have went somewhere local until the concert let out. She could have asked a friend to bring her the keys to her car. In a desperate act, she could have called her parents. All of which she did not do. Even if her cell phone was not working at this time, she would have known her parent’s, brother’s or a close friend’s number by heart. I don’t think Morgan wanted her night ruined because she couldn’t get back into the concert. She wanted to find something to do, and people to hang out with. I think the limited interaction with people in the parking lots was just that, Morgan looking for a party/good time. Sadly she elected the wrong person(s) to go with that night.
mary:
i had asked a while ago whether the BIB and the UVA b-players could be one in the same but they are seen with Morgan at different times and since we really have no other information than a sorta lame time line of her activity,
I would imagine that she could have been seen in the vicinity of many but not necessarily with any.
But it never hurts to go over and over what we do know.
One Human Family.
Positive thoughts on this Good Friday.
Trying not to be so frustrated.
Love and Peace to All.
If it was Morgan seen on the UVA campus by the newspaper woman, then most likely the BIB are students. These students would most likely know about “the party house” on or near AF.
Lee, I’m so glad your daughter liked UVA. Trust me when I say that ALL campuses have their risks. There is a false sense of security by students because they feel they are surrounded by people most of the time. Give your daughter the book “The Gift of Fear” and let her attend wherever she wishes.
I always believed the newspaper lady. Her intuition told her that something was wrong, this is why she remembered the incident. She goes the same route every night, and she certainly has seen many a drunk students over the years, or students partying. But something told her that this wasn’t right.
Blink, this me, I am on holiday.
Do the people who live on the 1800 block of RHR own ATV’s?
I am lost over where everyone seems to have jumped to with this news, and likely it is just because I do not know as much info as other posters do about earlier information. There were vehement claims that this new boot info contradicts info that was published elsewhere in an attempt to “protect” someone. I asked where the earlier misinformation had been published and by whom but no one answered. All the early presumably LE driven media reports I saw said that she was last seen wearing knee high black boots. As people have had such a strong reaction to this news, surely they must know the answer to this. Please share.
The suggestion that LE did not take Parsons seriously seems to be contradicted by the reporting about her. The Hook article says that LE, obviously based on talking with her, interview people on the lawn. That is all we know about what they did — its likely they did more. Based on that, they did not decide to expand their timeline. Now, based only on a report that morgan was wearing high heeled boots (I assume none of us has interviewed people or done the other things LE would have done to vet the claim), people have decided LE was wrong, parsons was right and someone is covering something up. Seems like a real stretch. No one is protecting the image of UVA. The image doesn’t need protecting for one thing. Secondly, local LE does not really like UVA — IMO they love to get students in trouble. Third, this would not be protection anyway.
Liam — you suggest that the BIB are the same as the BB players. I can’t remember if you from overseas but think you are so you may not be familiar with the physical characteristics of american Division I basketball players. Suffice it to say that the bookkeeper would have known if these kids were hoops players or not. They stand out (literally) in any crowd. The one player whose name has come out here for instance is a good 6’9″, 250 lbs.
Thanks, everyone. Y’all are the best. Observer, wow, you are such a resource. All I have is “UVa bio lab,” though. Gilmer is where I was thinking.
Maybe it’s the day, but as much as my head is swimming, I feel a sense of renewal and hope.
Nope, I am with you. There is a shift in the current. April 5 and April 6 are important personal dates for me, I am praying.
B
I am thinking that the release of the new info on the boots is through Mrs Harrington. She was going through Morgan’s apartment sorting things out last month and possibly came across the fact that the tall black spike heeled boots were missing. Checked at home and found them missing there also. Checked with friends and found she had changed boots right before the concert. Told LE same..but they did not release info for whatever reason. Now Blink has done what needed to be done. All just my opinion.
Personally I am still discounting the Lawn sighting. It still does not have the right ring for me.
My cheese is still in the North Garden area ..and location, location, location.
A little while ago, we were driving back from Ivy and made a wrong turn (one too soon) and turned onto Copeley bridge. My husband said, “That’s ok, we’ll just go over Morgan’s bridge.” I *hearted* him at that moment.
Last night we were driving back from Ivy again and I asked him to turn (on purpose) onto Morgan’s bridge and made him pull over so I could place our rock. My daughter gave the rock to me, and I gave it to your daughter, Dr. and Mrs. Harrington. It was my privilege.
Oh. Bullseye. I heart your hubby and all of you, thanks for sharing. Need picks people!!
Julimooly has had enough of a break!
B
Blink, do you still think they have a person(s) of interest that they are closing in on? When Morgan was found, you indicated you thought an arrest was forthcoming…now several months of silence. What are your thoughts?
A B S O L U T E L Y. Holidays tend to exacerbate issues.
B