Morgan Harrington Murder: Picture of Morgans Boot Released
Charlottesville,
Morgan was brutally slain, presumably, the evening of October 17th, 2009 after she went missing from the John Paul Jones Arena, located on the grounds of The University of Virginia. Her remains were recovered on January 26th, 2010 on the grounds of Anchorage Farm in Charlottesville, VA.
There have been countless witness accounts and reported sightings of Morgan since she vanished from JPJ, most of which, have been prefaced by stating “ or a person matching Morgan’s description”, so we are truly left to sift through what is accurate, and what is a well intentioned bystander.
One of the most conflicting item descriptions, is that of the boots she was wearing that fateful evening.
Below is a picture of the boot Morgan was wearing the evening of October 17, 2009, as confirmed by Morgan’s Mother Gil Harrington, to be “spot on”.
As you can see, it has no laces, and a cuff of approximately 3” that can be worn EITHER at the knee, or above, as reported by the witness who believes she saw Morgan walking away from JPJ with 4 men young men dressed in black, and again in the lot adjacent to Uhall.
Additionally confirmed to blinkoncrime.com, Morgan was wearing “footless” tights or leggings, which would require additional socks.
Morgan was known for the very distinctive socks she wore under these boots.
There is currently a $150,000 reward for information leading to the arrest and conviction for anyone responsible for the death of Morgan Harrington.
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Re: fish-April, 2010–6:48
Fish,
Just logged on and saw your outstanding commentary, and sadly, I believe you have summed this entire investigation up very accurately. I must say I am in full agreement with your post, and have felt this way for months. These boots are just the final piece of incorrect or non-existent evidence/information in a long line of misinformation. How can this happen ??? It looks like we all were just spanning our wheels–Thank you VSP for wasting valuable time……and Thank you, Fish, for your insightfull comments.
I am not suggesting that there are not flaws in this case on behalf of LE. Technically, there are in most complex cases. That said, I am hesitant to point the finger at VSP. They took this case over for a reason. I am intentionally withholding comment further because it serves no purpose.
We cannot turn back the clock, and I will never, ever quit on this girl. Sometimes criminals are luckier than smart. Their luck ran out when Morgan was found, they NEVER expected that, imo.
B
The witness that says she saw Morgan walking away from JPA with 4 MIB and again at the U-Haul lot should have a pretty good idea what these 4 guys look like. It has been said that LE has interviewed her 5 times, so LE must have a pretty good idea of what theses MIB look like right?
The new “news” about Morgan’s boots kept me up last night.
Observer, I agree 1000% that there are many girls that resemble Morgan Harrington, at first, second and even fifth glance.
I can attest to this fact watching hours of video from the concert. I am at a loss. I watched these videos with Morgan’s attire in mind. I discounted some girls because they were wearing something that didn’t “fit” what Morgan was reported to have worn.
? How can any witness be discounted or at least not revisited, now that Morgan’s description has changed?
? Why was there such a discrepancy in reporting what Morgan was wearing?
?Shouldn’t it have been relatively easy for the friends to dispel Mrs. Harrington’s notion about what her daughter was wearing?
” Mrs. Harrington, Morgan changed into—- after she left your home.”
LE at the very least should have gotten detailed descriptions from the friends on what Morgan’s boots ect were like. These boot(s), pictured with this article could not have been mistaken for Doc Martin like boots- even in the dark of night. They hug the leg differently, they “walk” differently. They would have changed witnesses’ perceptions of Morgan’s height of 5’6 quite noticeably.
Gil has said she wore Morgan’s shoes and clothes knowing what had happened to her, in them, in order to be closer to Morgan, and in order to feel what Morgan must have felt-the fear she must have felt.
? Blink, if Morgan’s boot(s)weren’t found with her body at AF- Where were they found?
Suz, I am one of the people that is not convinced Morgan Harrington was HH. I agree with you- maybe I need to look at this again.
? Was Morgan Harrington wearing a black mini skirt- Pantera shirt- black leggings- to the concert?
Did she remove any of these articles of clothing? In movies when a girl is trying to hitch a ride she shortens her skirt, removes her tights, ties up her shirt inorder to catch a ride faster- Did Morgan do this?
?Did Morgan Harrington give up on HH and end up on the lawn partying into the wee hours of the morning?
? Did Ms. Parsons see her? She reported that the girl she saw, came out of a particular room-
?Who lives on the lawn?
?Who lives in that particular room?
? Does anyone on the lawn know 4 people that match the description of the 4BIB?? Does anyone on the lawn have a side job at JPJ?
Has LE followed up on every witness sighting? When did they realize Morgan was wearing something different? Did Morgan leave her necklace at home too? Did Morgan Harrington change purses? Did she grab a jacket also? Is LE aware of these things? Are we playing catch-up? Is LE?
That would be weird if Morgan’s remains were found with one high boot and one short.
I feel like the facts and the knowns are devolving again. Perhaps that’s useful.
I’m practically back to:
Morgan Harrington went to see Metallica on Oct 17 at JPJ
Morgan left the arena before Metallica came on, for reasons unknown
Morgan tried to get back in and could not
Morgan’s purse and cellphone were found the next morning in the parking lot of the arena
Morgan was found brutally murdered 3 mos later and 10 miles away in a remote area on a private farm
So, in a missing person case law enforcement made no effort to describe accurately the clothing the missing person was wearing? What effort would it have taken to obtain the exact matching outfit, put them on a blonde the same size as Morgan, take photos and transmit them to the public. As we still don’t know when Morgan was murdered it MIGHT have made a difference between life and death for Morgan.
I was just sitting here thinking it would have been helpful to know whether Morgan wore her hair down or up, curly, wavy, or straight so that the witnesses would be able to compare her image that evening to the image they think they saw. Just one picture of her from that night would potentially jog so many memories. But I suppose the LE is thinking that they themselves can best determine whether a sighting was really Morgan because they are amongst the few who would know these details about her from that night. Clearly, LE doesn’t want these details released. And here we are, right? We are scratching and poking at every little tidbit. So, assuming LE has a real plan underway, we are either a thorn in the side of LE because we demand (and receive) more information than would be otherwise available to the public or alternatively, we are providing something LE wants to be out there, meaning we are part of the plan. This means, LE has a plan and that plan is either a good one that we could potentially mess up, or LE has a bad plan, an undeveloped plan, a plan that began too late (or no plan) that our presence might influence in a positive way, OR LE has a plan and our web sluething is a part of it. Random thoughts.
Blink, I found an error in something I posted earlier, but it shows as still awaiting moderation, so hope it isn’t too late to fix.
In #28 I said there was activity on Red Hill rd the same night of the fire (jan 26th) but what I meant to say is that there was activity on Red Hill Rd shortly after Morgan went missing.
There is no way that four men/boys would all dress in black to go to a concert. They would look ridiculous being quadruplets. Don’t you think these four must have been working the show? Or something else?
It seems it would be tough trifling through a lawn/dirt area with a heal located on the back of your boot. -Almost like aerating a lawn…Those boots would get pretty dirty and scuffed. -I wonder if Morgan only intended on wearing those inside the JPJ arena? Did the heal break off in the arena while falling and she became upset? Did she exit the arena, out of embarrassment in an attempt/thinking to double back to her car to change boots, but forgot the keys, and once outside, {WHAT?!? Can’t re-enter? Hell, I know people here, someone will get me out of this mess…-You can’t come out either, or you won’t be able to get back in. You stay inside.}
Holly says:
April 1, 2010 at 8:41 pm
My 17-year-old daughter and I just got back from touring prospective universities. One of the schools we went to was UVA. It has a great music department and she is interested in going to this school. While we were there, we placed several rocks at Morgan’s Memorial. It was a very important statement made to my daughter while she placed a rock at the bridge. I pointed out Skyler’s beautiful painted rock while we looked at all the other mementos. I was a little sad as there were not a lot of rocks at this memorial–in fact very few. Maybe I was too optimistic that people would be adding rocks and the bridge would be really filled. I think every woman on campus should make this part of their reality. This was a beautiful young woman whose life ended in an horrific way. Maybe the students don’t know about this rock memorial. College students are always up for making a statement. I don’t understand the lack of rocks. In any case, I hope my daughter chooses another school.~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Holly, I am saddened to hear that there are not many rocks at Morgan’s Memorial Bridge.
I am a rock hound–always have been. I will be gathering and sending a box of rocks for Morgan soon. She has touched my heart and soul so deeply. I have grown to love her and the Harrington family. More rocks are coming–and prayerfully, so is Justice!!~Moonchime
Concerned Mom:
I would guess that nearly 50% of the Metallica fans dress in black, to some degree, when at the concerts. These are just some random google images of Metallica crowds (The people in the pics are totally random – have nothing to do with this case.)
http://cmsimg.detnews.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=C3&Date=20090114&Category=OPINION03&ArtNo=901140421&Ref=AR
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2050/2365985493_20946fc2dd.jpg?v=0
http://jacobdinesen.net/gallery/2007/Metallica,_Vestereng,_2007/images/IDIOTER_C49F5837.jpg
http://www.pe.com/multimedia/slideshow/2008/20081213_metallica/images/11metallica13eepma.jpg
TDBone is correct, in almost all our research, and it is substantial, even what would be considered “preppy” kids dress like that, especially for this event. I would be more surprised to see someone in a pique polo.
B
Concerned mom, black could just mean dark clothing. Could be black concert-type shirts and dark jeans. Eyewitness accounts are notoriously unreliable, but they’re kind of all we got.
Concerned Mom-
Hello thanks for your thoughts on the BIB, you got me to thinking- you wrote:
There is no way that four men/boys would all dress in black to go to a concert. They would look ridiculous being quadruplets. Don’t you think these four must have been working the show? Or something else?
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I agree, if they were all wearing the exact same thing they would look ridiculous. But IMO there are varying degrees of black also depending on the type of pants. One could have been wearing slacks (although I doubt it) one corduroys, one jeans, one dockers or sweats.
or possibly long shorts-
But I think it is more likely that they were all wearing a black concert/band shirt- probably different bands- maybe one had a button up shirt or maybe all did- but I think they were all wearing black jeans- there are different styles and grains/wash of jeans. My son loves his jeans- has quite of few black jeans- all different- all black -but none of them exactly the same- but in the dark I am not sure anyone could tell the difference between them.
Skyler – Your post on April 1, 2010 at 4:38 pm:
Excellent!!!
Blink, if Morgan was not HH on the bridge, what do you believe her purpose for being on the bridge was? Of all the places she could have gone, why there?
Not being glib, but she was on the bridge to get where she was going. If we knew the rest….
B
OT: I just got tenure (in academia).
Wow Blink…your boots post has sparked some curious conversation over at Find Morgan. ‘ Perhaps some sex crazed predator with a foot/high boot fetish happened upon Morgan and impulsively decided to have her at any cost….’
Oh my.
Heh?
Lordy. ( Can I say that today? Sorry.)
B
Kinda OT and I apologize if it has been brought up before, but I believe that Dr. And Mrs. Harrington need to be nominated for CNN heroes. Will someone more articulate and with more access to information about them and their charitable work please consider nominating the two of them?! I would do it myself, but I think a lot of you on here would do a much better job than me. Please let me know if any of you are willing to do it, and if I don’t hear back about it on here, I guess I will give it a shot in a few days.
Thanks everyone! Keep up the good work. 241
Another B: It’s been crazy week with April Fool’s and all–Did you just say you made tenure? Congrats and Cheers to you!
Alilcurious, #13–What a spectacular idea you have about nominating the Harrington’s for CNN heroes! I LOVE IT! This would be such a fitting honor for this couple and it would help to spread the word about the perils women face. I will write CNN if I need to. I love that this site brings out the best and the most beautiful in peopleand in ideas. This site has changed me forever. This is my first time ever participating in a forum. I have good taste.
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I am so thankful that the Harrington’s have Blink on their side and in their corner. Special blessings sent to all of you. I can’t even imagine how comforting it must be to Gil to have Blink
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The socks keep coming to my mind. Blink always has a reason for saying everything she says. Do beautiful and brightly colored, maybe polka-dotted socks ring any bells for anyone? I can’t help but feel this is a significant bone.
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Speaking of bones, TDBone–your work is incredible–I have observed it in many places, and you are so gracious and well spoken. I picture you being a young college-age student and I am sure your parents are incredibly proud of you. I am.
****Fishie–It’s going to be OK. My prayer for you is that you find peace and joy with your family during the rest of your well-deserved holiday.
And rocks are on the way from O K L A H O M A.
lol, I just belted that out, my kids are like, wth are you singing?
B
Crimewriter, I think it is called ” The Lawn”, but there are sidewalks on all sides, along the buildings. The grass is in the middle, like courtyard style..I believe. No problem walking in high heels there.
“The police did not tell me she did not have high heel boots, they only ever referred to them as black I believe, we are not sure how the misinformation surfaced.B”
I have to ask. Maybe this is how misinformation surfaced.
Who told the organizers to tell us, at the search, what they were?
“Black, low chunky heel, rounded-toe, could have laces”
By the looks of the photo above…that’s not them and not what I was looking for roadside.
Does this even matter?
It matters from a learning perspective, of course. It matters that if people will take the time to volunteer, they need to be trained and informed properly. The standards applied to volunteer searches need to be uniform, inset protocol if you will. That is an entire ‘nother conversation.
Fish, and Sky, and all others that have volunteered their time in efforts to find Morgan, and answers as to what happened to her. I feel you, I have been there. Let’s remember that it would not change the outcome. That said, it could affect the future, so we turn it up.
B
Judi writes, 4/2/ 8:55 am:
Is the unique socks Morgan was wearing under the boots a clue of some sort????
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I read this piece of data as potentially meaningful too. My first thought was that it makes the witness account of bare legs even more plausible, as there were no “tights” being used for her feet. (But … I don’t believe many girls would be too hesitant to put the boots on with NO socks.)
I also wonder if the socks were found with the body and part of the seemingly quick identification as being Morgan.
Mom 3.0, imagine how many posts we could have been spared if only we had a picture of the girl from that night? (sigh)
sueK, the interesting thing about fetishes is that the fetish object itself becomes the object of desire—not the wearer of such object. A raving fetishist might lick her boots or spoil them in some other way, but it wouldn’t make him want to ravish HER, oddly enough. Although if she forced herself on him (and no, of course I am not suggesting that!), he might need the boot for arousal.
It’s such a strange phenomenon. It’s like if you were starving, and could be satisfied by merely looking at pictures of food. Fetishists are almost always men, btw—women rarely are, if ever.
anotherB: Congradulations!!! All that hard work has paid off!
ShyGirlSpeaks, it could be the socks aided the body ID, but I assume it was something more along the lines of blond hair and Pantera shirt—-though we don’t know whether that was found with her or not (and Blink seems to think not). Certainly the bracelet helped her mom identify her; could have been that. I imagine Morgan would have colorful, playful socks—stripey, multicolor toe socks even—and the good farmer never let slip that the saw any color—just black clothing.
I took the mention of the socks to be a shout out to anyone who may have stumbled on unusual, colorful socks somewhere. At the perp’s house or somewhere that may be a crime scene. Something like that.
Another B, congrats!
fish says:
April 2, 2010 at 5:59 pm
“The police did not tell me she did not have high heel boots, they only ever referred to them as black I believe, we are not sure how the misinformation surfaced.B”
I have to ask. Maybe this is how misinformation surfaced.
Who told the organizers to tell us, at the search, what they were?
“Black, low chunky heel, rounded-toe, could have laces”
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Maybe it came from the harringtons who obviously would not want to mislead anyone. I have never seen a description come from LE (which is why I keep asking the question of those who think this alleged misinformation was designed to deceive and protect). This seems like a good reason why LE does not make statements unless they are absolutely sure — sometimes initial beliefs are wrong.
@ Saramom says April 2, 2010 at 5:42 pm
It all happened on the first of April, but it was *not* a joke. Very memorable day!!!
Concerned Mom- I have been saying the exact same thing regarding 4 men all wearing black. I do appreciate that eyewitness statements are unreliable and “all black” could mean black jeans/dark jeans and different types of shirts etc., but I think that the eyewitness purposely mentioned the fact that these 4 men were together in a group clad in all black because she noticed their (identical?) attire. Maybe she even thought it was odd to see a group of men all dressed alike so it was one of the things that caught her eye. It could be a huge tip/clue here, imo.
When I glance through photos and video from Oct. 17th, I see a very colorful audience. It really surprised me, actually. I see a lot of guys in black t shirts and blue colored jeans, but that is not all black. All black to me indicates a uniform of sorts. A tuxedo, a suit, something that a bouncer/vendor/bartender etc. would wear or what “some” of the security staff standing in front of the stage were wearing, or what the stage hands who work for the company contracted through JPJ wore. (I’ve posted that link and their facebook a couple of times…stagemonkies or something to that effect…normally I wouldn’t just throw something out w/out being specific, but I have to run)
Here are two very quick links I found showing how colorful the crowd was. http://www.flickr.com/photos/hickydoo/4021611509/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/hickydoo/4021587163/in/set-72157622485398053/
a very mixed, mainstream crowd, imo.
TO: redly, re: your 4/2/10, 11:03am, post:
One word:
Ditto.
[BTW & OT: My husband was a “mere” 6’7” tall--and he too really stood out in a crowd. I never worried about losing him in a crowd, as all I had to do was look for the head that was towering above all others.]
RE: Morgan’s memorial on Copeley: I drove by there again and, as Irish indicated, there sadly aren’t near so many rocks there as I would have hoped and guessed by this point. And speaking of Morgan‘s ROCKS:
TO: moonchime: I checked the P.O. box again after work this evening and I’m sorry to report that yours still hasn’t arrived. Hopefully when I get back the P. O. box will be full of rocks–or, maybe so full that the Post Office will have placed a note in there that there are several packages awaiting pick-up:-)
TO: anotherB: My heartiest congratulations on having achieved tenure! I appreciate what an accomplishment that is and applaud your success. I feel a flute of champagne in your future…and will raise one to honor your newly-achieved academic status!
“I’m practically back to:
Morgan Harrington went to see Metallica on Oct 17 at JPJ
Morgan left the arena before Metallica came on, for reasons unknown
Morgan tried to get back in and could not
Morgan’s purse and cellphone were found the next morning in the parking lot of the arena
Morgan was found brutally murdered 3 mos later and 10 miles away in a remote area on a private farm”
Suz-
Personally, I would remove 2 and 3—IDK, maybe I’m just hard-headed but I am having a hard time accepting them as a factual accounting of what happened that night.
I’m going to repost my comment from the other day re: JPJ arena
(dealing with 2 and 3).
Blink- I hope I’m not in trouble for reposting the comment, it got stuck in “awaiting confirmation” mode for almost a day-when it was finally posted it was two pages back. Also- I’m going back to look for your comment, it’s in the Morgan’s Rock blog.
“Peggy says:
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
March 29, 2010 at 3:33 pm
Blink-
You had mentioned in a previous article about Morgan that one of her friends told Dr Harrington that Morgan’s car was not at the arena that night–could you tell us who said that?
You also mentioned that you had spoken to VSP (and an insider) re: surveillance footage inside the arena–you said from what you were told you were ‘led to believe’ that they had ‘irrefutable” proof that Morgan was indeed in the concert that evening. Could you elaborate on that? Of course I’m not asking for you to reveal your sources and anything like that–but I would like to know what you and others might think about it.
What could “irrefutable” proof mean? Considering that we KNOW from comments made by VSP there’s NO surveillance footage of Morgan inside or outside JPJ. Her friends have definitely said she was there as did Wayne Townsend but could you really consider that irrefutable proof?
I also know (from articles and VSP pc) that they have said she approached several doors trying to gain re-entry and possibly even approached the ticket counter. Knowing there’s no footage how can they be so confident that she actually did this? Is their irrefutable proof based on accounts given by security personnel standing at the door (or at the ticket counter)? Would LE actually consider an individual’s account as irrefutable proof?
All other accounts or sighting are usually prefaced with ‘a girl matching Morgan’s description’, this includes sighting outside but also inside the arena–i.e.-Morgan was seen crying or she possibly fell and hit her chin and was bleeding.
You also mentioned checking on when and if her ticket was scanned upon entering the arena. First, wouldn’t you have to know which ticket Morgan used and wouldn’t that just tell us that yes, all (or some) tickets were used and scanned but it wouldn’t tell us WHO actually used the ticket.
If LE did check on the ticket— wouldn’t it tell us something like-ticket(s) were scanned at 7:08 at Gate 12—and LE could then pin point which surveillance video to hone in on? Yet somehow there’s NO footage of Morgan in or around the arena! She obviously has ninja like ability to be able to move around the arena without ever being seen on surveillance footage.
TIA
Peggy”
We know for a FACT that there’s NO footage of Morgan inside OR outside the arena that night.
While we don’t know it to be a fact per se—I don’t think one single photo exists of Morgan on October 17th, whether it’s footage from the arena, her friends or other random people who might have snapped a picture or captured her on their own videos that night…I just don’t believe one exists or we would have seen it.
My thoughts re: the boots- I think police have done okay with this considering they don’t have a photo or any footage of her from that night, though IMO, photo-shopping a picture would have been a great idea. They did release information about her outfit including her necklace—which, IMO is far more unique than her boots. So, I would say no—they weren’t keeping this under their vest or holding back the information.
I realize this will sound a bit sexist…
Men were probably the majority of people who attended the concert, and generally speaking men aren’t that great with details, especially women’s clothes. I am in NO way saying all men are like that…but from my own personal experience—most men couldn’t tell the difference between over the knee boots, mid-calf boots, slouchy boots, or whether there high heels or flat or whatever the case might be.
Also, considering the demographics of the concert attendee’s—males between the ages of 16 and maybe 40? IDK, maybe it’s just me but I don’t think their noticing what shoes or boots the women were wearing.
I’m not sure how this specific information being released would have progressed the case forward. (MO only)
My list would be:
Morgan spoke with her father around 2:00 p.m.; she was supposed to attend a Metallica concert at JPJ arena.
8:48- Morgan (or someone using her phone) called Sarah Snead-around this time Morgan either texted or received a text (or both) from an unknown male approx 60 miles from the arena
Morgan’s purse and cell-phone were found the next morning in the parking lot of the arena
Morgan was found brutally murdered 3 months later and 10 miles away in a remote area on a private farm
Sorry this is such a long post!
JMHO
Peggy
Peggy- I answered you, not sure what your issue is, I cannot answer some questions.
B
redly says:
April 2, 2010 at 11:03 am
I am lost over where everyone seems to have jumped to with this news, and likely it is just because I do not know as much info as other posters do about earlier information. There were vehement claims that this new boot info contradicts info that was published elsewhere in an attempt to “protect” someone. I asked where the earlier misinformation had been published and by whom but no one answered. All the early presumably LE driven media reports I saw said that she was last seen wearing knee high black boots. As people have had such a strong reaction to this news, surely they must know the answer to this. Please share.
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redly, I think the problem is that prior to this picture, it was said (not sure by who) that her boots were definitely below-the-knee type with low heels. The eyewitness that says she saw her on the lawn indicated the boots she saw were over the knee and high-heeled, so I think most people dismissed her sighting for this reason. Now we know the boots are high-heeled and can be worn over the knee, so it gives more credence to her eyewitness account. Thus the makings of another conspiracy theory.
Skyler: given this new info about Morgan’s boots, I’d like to ask you a question (that you’ve probably been asked already and I missed it). I realize you might not want to answer, but I’m curious…
You said you drove over the bridge that night close to the 9:30 time that Morgan was supposedly seen there, and no Morgan. You called LE and told them what you didn’t see. Can you say which LE you called, and did you speak to anyone or just have to leave a message. IF you actually spoke to someone, in your opinion, did they seem to take the info you gave seriously? Like did they ask you any questions pertaining to what you might have seen or did they just ask for your id info in case they needed to talk to you again. You being the only person that “we” here know was there that night, and you didn’t see anything, I’d just like to know how LE treated you.
What little info we have had to go on, now seems like no info at all, and what little we thought were disproved sightings, now seem significant. So have we been being jerked around all this time intentionally, and if so, why?
B, I so appreciate your latest bone, but I’m more dumbfounded than I was, and I didn’t think that possible in this case
I have always felt the guys in black were some or all of the potential perps. Especially since I had a dream after Morgan was found, that she was laying on the floor of a van or RV type vehicle that was going down a wooded road, not sure of her condition at that point, maybe sleeping, drugged or already hurt. I could clearly see MIB sitting in seats facing each other, looking worried, when all of a sudden the back door of the vehicle flew open and Morgan slid out onto a road. She was then run over by a car directly behind them (I felt these people were all together from both vehicles). I was there, as is often the case in dreams, and I went to her and said, let me help you, and she stood up saying she was fine, but was obviously horrifically injured. She wouldn’t have been able to get up because she was run over from the legs up to the chest area. I also saw two red deer in the road, that seemed to be made of burning embers, just before she slid out of the vehicle. It has always bothered me, because it was so awful and even though I know she was brutally murdered, I also feel that at least some of her injuries might have come from being run over by something. I do NOT consider Morgan’s death an accident of any kind, but that vehicle injury may just be a part of what eventually happened. Also, the only face of the MIB that I focused on was an older man(50+-60+ years old), other than that I could get no impression of the others ages, I think there were four MIB in the RV type vehicle, two and two facing each other in seats, couldn’t get impression on a driver. Then I woke up.
Sorry, I know how many people feel about dream impressions, but this has been bothering me for a long time and I needed to at least write it down, especially because I have had some very prophetic dreams before.
re: Phyl says:
April 1, 2010 at 10:42 pm
http://peacecommunities.org/lovepeaceandjoy/?p=132
The 3rd missing woman the talked about in this article, Letisha Marie Faust, 50, of Stuart, Virginia was found dead March 23rd. Her mother was at the CUE Center Conference when they found her body.
Kathy
O.K., who released the photo of the boot NOW?
Why did they not release it in the hours or very few days after Morgan went missing?
Hello Blinkers! As far as the socks I remember Mrs. Harrington said that Morgan’s favorite color was purple because that was my grandmother’s favorite color and I believe that was one of the colors used for the Morgan Bracelet Fundraiser- I could definitely be wrong and it might not matter but that is my 2 cents worth.
I used to have boots something like this and when my legs would get too hot I would roll them down making them alot shorter. Do you think that maybe this is something that Morgan might have done?
The longer this goes on the more queasy I get. The Harringtons and the bloggers are the only ones keeping interest in this case going. We can’t get straight answers from anyone, not the BB players, Morgan’s friends, the Virginia State Police, Uva administration, JPJ Arena administration, or anyone else.
For example we are told that there is no video of Morgan at the concert. Period. Well, is there video of Morgan’s friends sitting in a row together with an empty chair as if waiting for Morgan to come back from the ladies room? Is there video of anyone? At all? WAS there video of anyone? At all? Who has/had custody of the video? Since JPJ Arena is owned by the State of Virginia through UVa shouldn’t the video be a public record and recorded and secured under the custody of a sworn law enforcement officer? Just WHAT is going on here? Where does this third-rate “Security” firm come in to play? Who hired them? What for, exactly? WHO came up with this no re-admittance policy? Would they like to justify it, NOW? A lot of questions are not just going unanswered, they are going UNASKED.
Eye witness statements attribute four separate actions to Morgan after being locked out of JPJ:
1. Approaching a stranger, holding her arm out, and saying “let’s go”
2. Walking away from the arena in the company of four young men
3. Interacting with basketball players
4. Hitch-hiking on Copeley Rd bridge
What do all four of these actions have in common? To me, all four of these could be actions one would take if they were trying to avoid a stalker. In the first three actions, she is trying to place herself in the company/protection of a male or group of males. Holding out her arm to walk arm-in-arm with the stranger outside JPJ perhaps indicates a desire to appear as if she is “with” somebody. Walking with a group of 3 guys makes her similarly unapproachable, and standing with basketball players would have the same effect, multiplied by their imposing physical presence. These are things that a girl might do if a creepy, unwanted individual was pestering or pursuing her.
And finally the hitch-hiking, which seems out of character for a girl like Morgan, could have been a last-ditch effort to get into a zone of protection, in the company of anyone other than the creepy guy following her.
This is why I am interested in ex-boyfriends. In my opinion, the story told by Morgan’s friends – that they assumed she would get a ride home (to a different city???) with someone else – is only even remotely plausible if the assumed ride-giver was someone very close to Morgan, such as an ex-boyfriend in the area – perhaps someone that she had “tied around her finger,” who she knew would agree to the very considerable inconvenience of giving her a ride to a different city.
Perhaps Morgan’s first thought upon realizing she was going to miss the concert was to solicit a ride home from this individual, but then she changed her mind after this guy showed up and started acting weird and creepy. This would fit with granny’s sighting of a dispute between Morgan and an individual male in the parking lot.
Maybe she asks him to come get her, he shows up and says something stalkerish and crazy like, “so you just want to use me for a ride home? I heard you were dating xyz now, let me see your cell phone records, etc etc.” Morgan is creeped out and decides against any further interaction with him, tries one more time to get back into JPJ at the other entrance, then seeks the protection of stranger / BIB / basketball players / passing cars as she notices the ex lurking and following her.
20.alexandra says:
April 2, 2010 at 5:46 pm
Crimewriter, I think it is called ” The Lawn”, but there are sidewalks on all sides, along the buildings. The grass is in the middle, like courtyard style..I believe. No problem walking in high heels there.
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LOL, put heels on me and send me to the Lawn, and I am wobbly on those old, uneven brick sidewalks and steps in the best of circumstances. I would go straight for the grass, assuming it was not pouring at the time. The grass hills were probably too muddy to walk up or down though, huh? Not sure what my point is, because I believe Ms Parson saw what she saw, whether Morgan or a lookalike.
Someone else mentioned this too, but my first thought looking at the boot was how well those heels would aerate the wet soil. I thought about all the unpaved paths and benches in the gardens behind the Lawn rooms and Pavilions.
Did any custodial staff get interviewed? Just wondering about muddy/sandy/shale-y tracks in buildings/offices/labs … though if folks have access at all hours and it rained that Saturday evening and night, finding mud wouldn’t be all that abnormal.
AnotherB, congratulations! Hope you are celebrating right now.
Thanks again, everyone, for coming forward with all the biology lab location info. Helpful!
Happy Easter, all.
question for Blink: did Morgan tell her friend on the phone that she would meet up with them at the end of the concert, or that she would get a ride home with somebody else? If the latter, do you think that would mean a ride to Harrisonburg, Blacksburg, or somewhere else?
TO: George, re: the boot. In an attempt to clarify (and avoid further confusion):
* LE/VSP did not just recently “release” this picture of the boot that you see here on BOC.
* LE/VSP has “released” no pictures of Morgan’s boots.
* B posted the picture you see here in collaboration with Gil Harrington, Morgan’s mom. [Please correct me if I'm wrong there, B.]
TO B and all my BOC compatriots: This will be my last post for approximately the next two weeks. [I know that sounds like just a fleeting moment, and in many ways it will be. In others, it will not.] I’ll be without internet or media access with the express exception of perhaps major worldwide news events. [Let us only hope there are none of those to report.] Now, I know some here will issue a small, quiet sigh of relief (or, maybe a big one:)) because at least there’ll be a brief respite from my lengthy and often rambling missives here on BOC:))
While I very much plan (and intend!) to enjoy myself (and relax and rejuvenate as some here have suggested) I will simultaneously feel a pull and a tug here to BOC…a constant niggling feeling, like a sore tooth that isn’t quite throbbing but still lets you know it’s there. That’s what Morgan’s case has been like: an unceasing tension that fairly begs for–no, insistently demands–resolution in the form of justice-at-last for dear, sweet Morgan…and likewise peace for Gil, Dan and Alex Harrington. This is a persistent undercurrent in my belly, a visceral feeling and need for justice and closure that I know each and every poster here understands, appreciates, and shares.
Please do keep that light on in the window and the home fires burning for me while I’m away because, while exploring the depths of far-away oceans, I’ll still be thinking of Morgan, Dan, Gil, and Alex. I’ll awaken each day and go to sleep each night wondering anew if Morgan’s murderer has been identified. I’ll imagine vividly the distinctive, metallic “click-click-click” of the handcuffs as they wrap tightly around his wrists, and in my mind’s eye I’ll see him appear with head hanging and eyes averted as he does the long-awaited “perp walk” for NBC29 news. That’s the vision I’ll carry with me as I leave the country.
As Morgan’s murderer feels those cuffs may he likewise feel the weighty hand of Lady Justice on his shoulder; nay, may he feel the weight of the entire world on his shoulders–or at least the weight of the collective conscious of everyone here who has followed Morgan’s case so closely since she disappeared on October 17, 2009.
My fondest wish is to come back to news of this BG’s arrest. Nothing would make my homecoming (even after such a short break of two weeks) better than to have an email from B shouting from the rooftops:
“It’s OVER–they GOT him!”
Please God, make it so.
Can I get an “Amen!”?
You can. Amen.
B
Skyler,
I will spare everyone my expletives and profanities, but I believe I just found another picture that I believe has your son and his friend in it. Unbelievable. Let me know if you want the link posted.
To all my fellow BOC contributors,
Please read, as I feel it is important before anyone thinks that I’m into blaming anyone. I don’t mean too. I apologize.
There may be time for that later. Right now, I want everyone to know that we use this site as a sounding board for our thoughts and theories. Some of us far away and some of us here in the muck and mire of it all.
I use it as peace of mind for myself and for the victim named Morgan.
We all have a commonality here and I just literally pour out my feelings whether they are out of frustration or excitement or confusion. Of love and healing. Or the any number of emotions that anyone of us may be feeling at any given time. We are all trying. I used to say “I’ll take lucky anyday”. Well not anymore, I’m going to start takin’ me some “Smart” and it seems that we have a shit-ton on this very site!
4.fish says:
February 3, 2010 at 2:44 am
***”Blink: Thank you for giving the unknown a name! Never heard such a sweet voice before…
For some people, it is a connection of pain. Sheer pain…
I believe the difference for me is that my two life-altering, catastrophic personal family losses were not held so much on the World Wide Web. Yes, it was around. Trying to keep a sense of humor. 1996 and 2000 to name the years. I think I know but yet, I do not know what the Harrington family is going through. We are all unique, like Mrs. Harrington so eloquently stated about Morgan. Yes, we are indeed.
I also, do not think that there were as many games, secrecy, misquotes and actual false information in my cases. My family had two tragedies very different from each other but yet the outcome was the same.
They were both dead…..”***
I think that I should let people read in part, won’t copy/paste the whole thing. No need to understand my point of view about the boots and the search. Just read the above paragraph about misquotes, etc…I want people to know that I wrote this very, very late after listening to this woman on a radio talk show. I understood then as I do now that she and I had and have something in common.
“WE are not going to give up on Morgan Dana Harrington!”
I hope that you all can see that I truly and deeply understand that things do happen for a reason and we all may not be privy to it. I was blowing off steam, frustration, raw emotions. But, I just wanted people to understand that I only wanted to help and be given somewhat correct information.
I AM NOT blaming anyone, not LE. And, I’m not even blaming her friends that night with her. How do I know if they told LE what Morgan had on that night?
***”Fish, and Sky, and all others that have volunteered their time in efforts to find Morgan, and answers as to what happened to her. I feel you, I have been there. Let’s remember that it would not change the outcome. That said, it could affect the future, so we turn it up.
B”***
I got the outcome. Had that all along too. However raw and unedited as you let me be. All three are dead.
But what I am thankful for is this same woman that spoke on February 3, specifically to me(delusional-humor, friends) is the same woman that now has reminded me that we all can be the change for the future. So we must keep forging ahead for the sake and safety of all our daughters AND our sons!
It seems that I am not the lone parent on this site. We all have our own “Guppy Gals and Guys”. (Although, please refer to my son as “Barracuda”) Lord, help me but Blink gave his sister a name and he got jealous. How many kids must we all have between us? Hundreds and we touch thousands.
Momof3, fishof2, skyof1, redhilllocalof?, acho of?, J2Kof?, Observerofthousands! And the most important!
Harringtonof2!
I can only imagine our numbers!
We all can be the difference.
The smart ones!
Thank you dear friend for grounding me once again.
I apologize because we all remember what we each write and may not remember what each other write. If that makes sense? I mean, I know exactly what I say, I lived it, felt it, and held it.
Sheer pain, that is.
So Blink, please do go ahead and turn it up!!
I think that we have all been waiting way too long!
p.s. B, I’m gonna start to use the shorter format, I promise!
I remember reading that LE scoured over hours of video looking for Morgan. There was video…just not any showing Morgan. I have often wondered if they found AM, SS or DC in any video or pictures. ?
zeusrocks says:
April 2, 2010 at 8:42 pm
You just gave me goosebumps, literally. Just today, I was reading comments on another blog written about Morgan’s case. There was a poster there that actually said he “saw” alot of the same things you did. The poster was actually a little whacked out, and it got worse the more posts he wrote(none of which I believed), but some of his 1st comments were about BIB, a young couple, an older man, 2 vehicles, etc. You can read them here: http://www.truecrimereport.com/2009/10/virginia_tech_student_morgan_d.php Scroll down about 1/3 of the way & look for 1st post by kevingmcneill@gmail.com (As I said, he seems seriously whacked out and he didn’t make his 1st post until 2/5, after Morgan’s body had been found).
Hey zeusrocks, you aren’t the same person as this guy are you
That guy was all over facebook as well. I will just never understand some people.
B
“Chiming in” as per Fishes request
I definitely remember reading somewhere that the boots had a LOW heel, Fish. I also remember believing at the time that the source was credible. Obviously, that wasn’t the case ~ res ipsa loquitur (legal jargon I learned in a “Business Law” class that I knew would come in handy one day!).
Don’t feel bad Fish, I’m sure you’ve heard the saying, “Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me”. Also, the answer to why someone would provide false information, may be a HUGE CLUE in and of itself; possibly the best clue we’ve had to date!
So, where do we go from here in the interest of continuing our journey to find justice for Morgan? Do we start fresh with the 4 MIB or BIB? That would seem to make sense now since the witness that saw Morgan with the 4 MIB said Morgan was wearing above-the-knee HIGH heeled boots. Or, do we pursue a different avenue?
I’m sure B’s time is extremely limited but perhaps a new thread with a story and some clues relating to the 4 MIB would help us to get focused on the MIB research and leave the irrelevant stuff behind.
Actually, I would think the last thread about the protest would have already shocked us thoughtless and primed us for a new direction! I don’t wish to comment on that story except to say it just does not get any lower, any more desperate or any more shameful than that.
Thank God the Harringtons are strong and highly intelligent people who are capable of selecting and surrounding themselves with a support system of people who genuinely care for them.