Morgan Harrington Murder: Picture of Morgans Boot Released
Charlottesville, VA– Morgan Harringtons killers have not been apprehended.
Morgan was brutally slain, presumably, the evening of October 17th, 2009 after she went missing from the John Paul Jones Arena, located on the grounds of The University of Virginia. Her remains were recovered on January 26th, 2010 on the grounds of Anchorage Farm in Charlottesville, VA.
There have been countless witness accounts and reported sightings of Morgan since she vanished from JPJ, most of which, have been prefaced by stating “ or a person matching Morgan’s description”, so we are truly left to sift through what is accurate, and what is a well intentioned bystander.
One of the most conflicting item descriptions, is that of the boots she was wearing that fateful evening.
Below is a picture of the boot Morgan was wearing the evening of October 17, 2009, as confirmed by Morgan’s Mother Gil Harrington, to be “spot on”.
As you can see, it has no laces, and a cuff of approximately 3” that can be worn EITHER at the knee, or above, as reported by the witness who believes she saw Morgan walking away from JPJ with 4 men young men dressed in black, and again in the lot adjacent to Uhall.
Additionally confirmed to blinkoncrime.com, Morgan was wearing “footless” tights or leggings, which would require additional socks.
Morgan was known for the very distinctive socks she wore under these boots.
There is currently a $150,000 reward for information leading to the arrest and conviction for anyone responsible for the death of Morgan Harrington.
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re: 24.Kim says: April 4, 2010 at 2:43 pm
@ sweetpea from 11:13 am: Good points… the SIM card. Never been confirmed if the phone didn’t ‘require’ one, or it was missing. And to better understand if it was missing, we’ve never been told what model of phone it is.
From Blink herself on the http://www.findmogrgan forum
http://www.findmorgan.com/forum/showthread.php?p=43845#post43845
The phone did not use a SIM card, sorry for the confusion
I’m speculating that the perps were accounted for by midnight.
LE just cannot link to primary crime scene and Anchorage Farm.
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with all due respect to the volunteers and searchers who were “misinformed” on the boots: i hardly doubt if you were told…”chunky low heel, with rounded toe, below the knee”…and in your search found the “actual” boot(s), that the “incorrect” description would have been cause to dismiss the find…the information, IMO, would have immediately been “corrected” due to the unusual find, i mean, have any of you, ever, seen a boot like that laying anywhere, and simply dismissed it? quite frankly, those types of boots are a spectacle on, much less “off” and laying somewhere like in an alley/ditch/field…?!? now if the original description were that she was wearing tennis shoes, then i would be alarmed…
If someone answered this already, my poligies
Mom asks??Mom3.0 says:
April 4, 2010 at 1:19 pm
I just read A Texas Grandfather’s Post and your response to it Blink. Does this mean that you think it was Morgan at the gas station? Because I have been thinking about that sighting alot, lately. Didn’t the lady state that the blonde she saw, looked at her, pleaded with her eyes for help and that she looked all beat up, with a cut lip I believe? IIRC
Can someone repost this sighting?
I can’t go back to the post, but the post w/ the pleading eyes was from someone who was in a motel/hotel in Maryland and passed a blonde girl displaying that — which is totally not Morgan …
The lady w/ the Sheetz sighting — Karen — said she saw a blonde matching Morgan’s description standing by the trash can — blonde was walking out while Karen was walking in — she noticed her t-shirt because she her daughter had asked her to buy a phone w/ a similar name to Pantera — I believe it was VSP initially responded to the call — viewed video — did not see any tapes of a blonde but also did not see Karen on any tapes, but clerk verified that Karen had been in — that was in Orange which is to the north of Cvlle —
The alleged sighting which interests me the most — and I can’t link the previous post — it was either here or on the fb or findmorgan page — or even a comment on The Hook, etc. — someone said their bf was in Louisa at a convenience store in the early AM on Sunday — before noon is all I remember — and they saw a blonde dressed like Morgan get into a white car — she caught his attention due to the way she was dressed — which is not usual in Louisa County, I gathered from the post — that the bf allegedly called the VSP tip line and no one ever returned his call —
So there again, I’m getting this awful feeling that Morgan was alive at least the next morning — had LE investigated instead of sitting on their azz eating donuts or merely assumed she was off w/ a boy — or followed up on some of these tips in real time and not 3 months after she’s found murdered — or all jurisdictions worked together — we wouldn’t be sitting here wondering what the heck happened to Morgan —
I wish the FBI would take over the lead in this case — I’m not saying members of LE don’t feel empathy toward Morgan’s family, but Morgan doesn’t need empathy or sympathy from LE — she needs competency — And at this point I don’t believe any Va. branch of LE has competently worked this case and is certainly not competently working it now —
How many valid tips have gone uninvestigated or unvetted because they did not fit in w/ whatever LE’s current theory of this case is/was —
going back to Day 1 by releasing an accurate description of how she was dressed or a pixture from her phone or one of those so-called friends — or more information about where her seat was located — they asked the public to review their video, but didn’t release where she was sitting —
I could go on, but what’s the point ?
Speaking of previous sightings, can someone remind me of the location where that jeep was seen where the guy went into the bar? and asked for directions? I’ll look for it, but cannot remember details to google it. TIA
Is it possible that incorrect assumptions first made about Morgan by LE during the initial phases of this case let important, possibly critical, details fall through the cracks? I am fairly certain some “assumptions”, more than likely negative, were made. Has LE possibly gone back over EVERYTHING with a likely new perspective they have gained? I feel as though they are missing something seemingly obvious that has been overlooked.
ATT, T-Mobile, (GSM); Nextel (IDEN) use sim cards. Sprint and Verizon and Cricket (CDMA) do not.
Skyler, Lack of competency (skills-or setting high enough standards?) has been my fear all along as well. But with the legacy of Morgan’s Bridge … Morgan’s Rocks … and now this new group in Cville to keep this a focus on safety in the community and UVA, I think this is gonna be the break-through. I just have a gut feeling that BLINK, et al, is going to solve this crime and will put it before the right agency to resolve it (which ever one that may-be); all, in spite of the total lack of competence we’ve seen so far. Then maybe there will be ‘shake-ups’ that will benefit all of Albemarle Co. and beyond. This site has already proven its invaluable worth in the sceme of things and you have been a BIG part of that (previous posts)! So, don’t despair – don’t give up!
Eloise: I think you’re talking about Boyd Tavern. But that’s actually the name of a location, not an actual tavern. And it is east of Charlottesville off of 1-64 in the direction of Richmond.
Thinking maybe I need a cooler name. Hmmmm. Any ideas?
Tango
B
Eloise, I see your apparition, but can’t decide. My tendency is to think it is a like seeing a cloud shape, but not positive.
“5.Eloise says:
April 5, 2010 at 12:16 pm
Speaking of previous sightings, can someone remind me of the location where that jeep was seen where the guy went into the bar? and asked for directions? I’ll look for it, but cannot remember details to google it. TIA”
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Boyd’s Tavern area
I’m sure the FBI is assisting as best they can, but, I don’t think they have much to work with. The coroner could not determine the cause of death. I think she was murdered, but, any defense atty – and one of my old boyfriends was one, would be on this like an ant on a Baby Ruth. In the words of the Bard “First, let’s kill all the lawyers…” Henry the Sixth, Part 2 Act 4
Eloise,
What do you think you see in that picture?
I do not believe the small triangular field/snow you are referring to is the field she was found in.
When I get a break I will try to map out that picture and an aerial to more clearly represent ‘what is what’ in that photo.
What’s the latest on the infamous church group? Hope they got lost somewhere – like Alligator Alley….
Blink, can you elaborate at all about the “distinctive socks” Morgan wore… or why that may be pertinent? I would read that as saying the socks were not found with her- what does this mean, or why is it important? Obviously, you’d think the socks were removed at the same time as the boots- perhaps even coming off inside of them as they were removed.
Ofcourse, I always think every single thing you write has a calculated intent or purpose. This is no different.
Ok I think I answered my own question above re jeep/bar. I read a blurb from IS that Boyd’s Tavern is a town and the jeep people asked for directions at a convenience store/market. This was Orange county? Is there anymore to this?
I feel like I am the only one babbling on during this beautiful spring day. Thinking while house cleaning. I am still feeling greedy in wanting an update from LE. Even if it reveals nothing in particular, just a “we are still here, very active” kinda remark.
For the person asking if this tight lip routine is common for VA, I can’t help but be reminded of the details learned in the Farmville murders. I recall reading on Richmond Dispatch, from the FOIA requested, all the search warrant finds etc. They still witheld certain pertinent info, like who was where in the house. I would guess this was b/c they had their suspect in custody.
Back in 2002 there was a family in Va who was shot to death. 6 months into the investigation, a report was given by LE that it could take 2 years to get all the forensics in the case back. 2 whole years!!! And that case still remains unsolved. I hope & pray it doesn’t take this long for dear Morgan.
I have never been convinced that Morgan’s body wasn’t washed further than we know by the flooding of Ida. I have a creek behind my house. We measured it this weekend. At the smallest point, it is 2 ft across, 1 inch deep. It is on a small slope from my backyard, but a larger bank on the other side that measures about 3 ft up. It has never ever flooded into my yard in the 6 yrs we’ve been here. But Ida got us. That little creek flooded about 12 feet into my yard and about 12 ft into the field behind it. It looked like a river it was so bad. The packed down mud/sand/muck is still all over my yard. Had I not seen this myself, I would not have believed it. Even at my neighbor’s house, next to the road, where the highest point of the creek is, some 10 ft straight down, it looked like a river going thru the edge of her yard and over the road.
It’s hard to explain just how bad it was in some areas if you didn’t witness it yourself. Most of the worst parts of flooding happened during the middle of the night, and I would never have believed how bad it was had I not seen it myself.
Eloise says:
April 5, 2010 at 12:57 am
RE: TBones pics. Eloise, I don’t mean to sound rude, but I learned long long ago, if you study those pics long enough, and hard enough, you’ll find all sorts of “odd” objects in them. For instance, in the 1st one you linked, above the triangle area I think you’re talking about, it looks like a human skull close to the top of one of the trees. To the right of the triangle area where you can see thru the trees again and what looks like tracks of some sort, there looks to be either a large boulder or someone sitting in the middle of the snowy area. I looked at these before & didn’t notice what I notice now. Just saying, they’ll make you crazy…
Well what I saw was on the ground and looked like a white cross. No of coarse this can be from anything, like a pet etc. Just was wondering if anyone else saw it. I was not trying to say I saw something that was going to be a clue in solving the case, just a question.
At the “digital-topo-maps.com” website you can zoom in on the site where Morgan was found. The coordinates (at the bottom left of the screen which change as you move the cursor) are 37.9852466 and -78.617843.
On the upper right of the screen you can toggle between a “map” setting of the area which shows lot lines, a “topo” setting which shows the traditional topo lines, and a “Hybrid” setting which shows a google-earth photo.
For what it’s worth Morgan was found right on the very edge of the Anchorage Farms property.
It is BOYD TAVERN, and it is in Albemarle County. It is about 12 miles due east of JPJA. It’s not really a town, it’s more of a crossroads. There is a combo store/market/post office/gas station there and thats about it.
17.Eloise says: April 5, 2010 at 2:47 pm
Ok I think I answered my own question above re jeep/bar. I read a blurb from IS that Boyd’s Tavern is a town and the jeep people asked for directions at a convenience store/market. This was Orange county?
Skyler, Thank you very much. For your recall of the sightings. I agree it is plausible Morgan was alive into the next morning. This however goes against what Gil stated.
Also, remember, by this time Morgan’s Dad still hadn’t even called the friends-IIRC He first got the call about the purse- How long did it take to reach the friends? What time did he inform LE. Unfortunately, LE had nothing really to go on at that point, a 20 year old girl wasn’t home yet. Not that unusual.
I tend to have to give LE the benefit of the doubt, at least initially.We have to remember too that they still weren’t sure which jurisdiction was on the case-
Eloise,
Hi. I see your cross in between the trees. IMO it is not on the ground, and it is not white. It is either part of the fence line or someone put up a make shift cross in the tree line.
You wrote:
Ok, I have hesitated on whether to post this, but what the heck. I was perusing TD Bones pics, and I think I noticed something out of place in # 67. If you look at that picture centered, you will see a triangular patch of snow between the trees. Then enlarge it with a double click, and find that patch again. I don’t want to say what I think I see, will wait to see how crazy I am. By the way, I had looked at an ariel on line, and was bothered that I could not satisfy myself as to where poor Morgan was found, so I was going back & forth btwn the ariel & TD’s pics. In addition to my ‘apperition’, do you all think this pic represents the basic location? I had been way right in the map, but that doesnt seem to line of with the tree lines and fieldy area. Anyway here are the links, and let me have it.
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h102/TDBone/Case%20Photos/67.jpg
http://www2.dailyprogress.com/cdp/news/local/crime/article/harringtons_deliver_emotional_message/51496/ (This is the ariel I was using
George,
We put together a lot of overlay photo’s on the FM.com site.
Overlays with topo, with flood planes, with critical slopes, etc.
I believe they are within this thread (It’s a long one, but the overlays are in the latter pages):
http://www.findmorgan.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2577
Hopefully they may help some people.
MsL: I enjoy reading your posts and observations, but wish to offer a correction re: your 4/5 9:36am ref. to the Alicia Showalters Reynolds case. My recollection is that ASR disappeared in 1996. That would be 14 yrs. ago, not “nearly 20″ as you state. My only reason for mentioning this correction is there would be a difference of 6 years and I HOPE AND PRAY that Morgan’s case will be solved in far less time. Let’s not undervalue the time we spend waiting, watching, hoping, praying and researching. I thank you for your valuable posts and I encourage us all to be diligent in detail in our posts.
slowroller:
Shall I send you pictures of all sorts of crap we found?
Clothes, shoes, belts, condoms, makeup, wrappers, etc!!!
My team leader had ME, fish, (wtf) take them on my cellphone and send them to some number. They looked at them and then we had a detective there within 20 minutes to see if they warranted being taken back. They did not, so they lay where we found them!
So to answer your statement, some of the stuff, I deemed disturbing, was dismissed. That was Law Enforcement’s job not mine to decide. I RESPECTED that no matter if it only took a minute or ten to look at the items.
All I asked was, if anyone had a picture to release they should have!
If we all were told to look at our videos for her, on concert nite, then why would it have been such a big deal to release a photo, search day. Even if there was absolutely no photo of Morgan that night…how about an accurate look-a-like, kinda like Blink posted above. Remember they gave us a photo of the necklace, Search Day!
Maybe the rest was mass-confusion. I don’t know.
And FWIW, I do not find these boots to be a spectacle. Why do you? It seems that Mr. Speaker and you need to have me take you to dinner, dressed the same way as Morgan was, to understand that she was not dressed in some provocative way. My treat! Just name the restaurant and I will be there with BOOTS on! I promise to even add an “updo” that would rival any in New Jersey history! I will give you lots of black eyeliner, my own personal goop of lipgloss and I will not show one iotta of skin except my face.
Then tell me if I am a spectacle.
I want you to see in person, that she was not dressed in a way that would warrant what was handed to her. Even if she was, that gave no one the right to take what was not theirs to take. FYI!
**And, that is all I’m ever going to say about her dress again. She had on a shirt, skirt, leggings, socks, boots. What else should she have worn? Hell, even her legs were covered! By the gist I’m gettin’, she maybe had bare arms and an uncovered face. It was not the boots she had on that got her dead…it just would help to have know what we were looking for. Although, I called out everything. Probably was pretty annoying but as I was asked if I ever did this before then I’m thinkin’ I was doin’ something right.
And Slow,, look at the videos of LOG, Gorja, Metallica and you will see women in less and in bare-legs!
Back to the search, we called in everything. I have photos of some disturbing graffiti also, if you want me to send. I am not trying to take offense to specifically your post, nor am I trying to give it. It’s just that when you take time to do something AS IMPORTANT AS SEARCHING FOR SOMEONE’S DAUGHTER, then you want to do a good job. A really good job.
That day I saw grief-stricken, worried parents and thought of my own Mom and Dad’s worry. I thought of my grief and could relate. I am a grief-stricken mother. I also have a point of view, that those of us that were there, can share with all of you that could not be. I understand. It was hard as hell for me to go. But please, just try to understand and accept my POV as I will accept and learn from yours.
SlowR: I am not trying to single you out. It’s just that the dress comments unnerve me to no end. So if offended, please accept a pre-apology and dinner! OK.
(Blink, I think the above is a discussion for a very important topic you had mentioned the other day. Just not that smart to know when we should start discussing it. I think that your onto something concerning a format for a missing person. It just seems that so many go missing and end up dead.
I’m on board for what that’s worth.)
Has anyone ever stated what kind of earrings Morgan was wearing? I know it was stated that her hair was down that night… but she could have pulled it back at some point.
Did the UVA players state whether her hair was up or down? The HHing witnesses? The “lawn” witnesses? The accountant? The limo driver? Are they all in agreement on this subject? Is this one of the reasons why granny’s sighting was discredited- because she stated that the girls hair was tied back and wearing large earrings?
mary: a fence?
On a recent episode of Missing, on ID channel I believe, there was a case of a college student who left her college town, bought a couple bottles of booze, and took off for what LE assumed was a little vacation to New Hampshire, that she was depressed, and ultimately committed suicide. Despite her family and friends insisting that this was not the case, LE went with this, so it was up to her dad to go looking for her. LE never interviewed people who may have had contact with the girl on the day she went missing. Her family, in their research, found that she had called about renting a condo in N.H. on the day she disappeared. The dad talked to the woman she had called several months later, and guess what she said? If someone had asked me about this in the first few days after the call, I’m sure I would have remembered her call, how she sounded (depressed, happy, scared), and maybe I could have determined her state of mind. But asking me now, I just don’t remember the call, and it’s really ashame, I feel bad that I could have helped if I was asked about this earlier. This is not a direct quote, but pretty much the gist of her recollection.
Skyler, I’m with you, I really think there was mismanagement of Morgan’s case from the get-go, and now it may be too late to get accurate info from potential witnesses…very disturbing, to say the least.
TDBone,
Sometime at your convenience could you do one of your maps over the JPJ area to include the area on the other side of the bridge as well as the RV Lot? We’ve seen others, I’d just like to see your version.
Awa, pshaw, it was nothing.
Good point, total amateur. As a long haired person, I usually end up pulling it back by the end of a long day, long night, whatever. Morgan certainly was a chameleon, so it would be hard to discredit eye witness accounts based on things that are easily rearanged, boot length, hair style, etc.
If Morgan had a history of wearing distintive socks with these boots and no socks were found with Morgan, it would be very important for locals to keep their eyes open for stray socks, not only on the roadside, but perhaps in someone’s possession. If the timeline really does include sightings of Morgan leaving someone’s room, sans tights, then it is conceivable those socks (and tights) are still with a certain someone.
FYI: I have long hair & I always carry a scrunchie to pull my hair back with if it starts to drive me crazy–I can imagine Miss M. having something similar in her purse/backpack. I would like to know if she was in the habit of tucking her hair down into her coat when it’s cold (per Parson’s “ID”.)
Also, I think that Slowroller was referring to the short clunky boots when the boots were referred to as a “spectacle.” It was a bit confusing. I had to reread it myself–I certainly gave the writer the benefit of the doubt.
I am glad that Mrs. Harrington is preparing for her trip, as per her blog. Blessings to her and her family.
messimamm, Thank you for the correction with regard to Alicia Reynolds. I knew it had been a long time, but wasn’t sure of the year she was killed. Her case is one of the reasons I worry as to whether or not there will be sufficient evidence in Morgan’s case in order to make an arrest. I think Ms. Reynolds went missing during warm weather allowing for a greater degree of decomposition, but Morgan’s remains were out during some of the most horrendous weather we have had in this area in 15 years. I’m in no way scientific, so I have no idea how much DNA degrades when exposed to snow and rain. I know there has been a great deal of advancement in DNA analysis, but I would assume (read that hope) that samples were kept from the Reynolds’ murder site and re-tested using newer, more advanced methods. Someone asked in an earlier thread if the silence from LE with regard to Morgan’s case is unusual. If I remember correctly, little was released about Ms. Reynolds. Even 14 years later, I don’t think her cause of death, if determined, has been made public.
Thanks all for the info RE Boyd’s Tavern. I just wanted to review that in my head more intensly. No trouble to you TD, I think I was trying to place her in an area amongst your photos and was confused. Also sorry for any time wasted re my cross. I had thought how sweet, maybe Mrs Bass left something to mark her. TA, the only thing about earings I can think of was a blanket remark regarding ‘other jewelry’and her hair being ‘long blond hair’. I’ll keep looking. Oh & Justice, I know what you mean, like when so many saw the ‘man’ on the County maps, I was one of them. LOL!
Thanks everyone for the info on the sim cards. I honestly thought all cell phones had sim cards. I carry two phones one is an ATT and the other is Verizon. Both require sim cards.
That being said my opinion of the initial investigation or the lack there of still stands.
TDBone
April 5, 2010 4:12
Thank you for the link to the photos. A while back when someone posted several really good aerials of the farm and now with these photo’s it appears to me, that this terrian could be easily manuvered by a small four track. This kind of surprises me, I got the impression from the farmer/owner that you needed a tractor/tank to get to the spot Morgan was found.
Am I wrong about this? Admittedly, I am no GIS specialist.
TDBone, Thanks also for the link to the photos. I went over them and will download them now and go over them again in detail.
It seems likely that whoever put Morgan there had been there before, perhaps numerous times. Some of your photos show lots of deer. Could the place where they put Morgan be a favorite deer hunting spot for a local?
Earlier #37.George says:
April 5, 2010 at 6:53 pm
“TDBone, Thanks also for the link to the photos. I went over them and will download them now and go over them again in detail.
It seems likely that whoever put Morgan there had been there before, perhaps numerous times. Some of your photos show lots of deer. Could the place where they put Morgan be a favorite deer hunting spot for a local?”
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Om’gosh George….when we were at the edge of Anchorage Farm on Sat., we could see through a clearing (from Red Hill Rd) about 20-25 deer gathered. It was about 5pm….amazing!
Warning. Hate is on it’s way to Blacksburg.
http://www.newsplex.com/video?clipID=4677989&autoStart=true&contentID=89945127
Blink, weren’t you going to spill some beans, slice some cheese, hand out some more biskits? I was hoping to hear what you had to say.
Patiently waiting..waiting
There is a method…
B
Sweetpea:
I just made a new map and it’s posted on FM. It shows a lot of the area you are asking about.
http://www.findmorgan.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3022
Skyler, do you still have the photos that you took during the search? I’d like to see some of the items that you took pics of that LE dismissed, that “could have” related to Morgan. Also, was it you who posted the recent email addy to the FB page you guys from BOC are on? I’d sure like the address & try again to figure out how to join.
I completely understand how searching affected you Skyler. I went on the search for Jennifer Short back in 2002. It was grueling, tedious, and heartbreaking all at the same time. I managed to drag my hubby along even though he had no desire to go. If one hasn’t done it, it’s not something you ever forget. My group happened upon 2 places that took forever to search. 1st there was a darn junkyard in the woods. There must have been 100 cars there, most with the trunks closed, and there were 5 of us. We refused to leave that area until we popped every one of those trunks and looked into each car. I just knew we were going to get snake bit! The 2nd place was an old house, and I still get goosebumps when I think of that house. It was right on the highway, but nobody lived in it. It had no power upstairs but a phone connection. Every single floor in every room was piled up about 5 feet with clothing/blankets/junk/u name it. I was scared to death trying to go thru all that stuff. And then we found a door to the basement. The only thing in that basement was a huge floor type freezer, and the freezer had was running! I think we stood & stared at that freezer for 5 minutes or so before anyone dared to open it. It was completely empty, thank goodness. I will never ever forget this as long as I live, and still have nightmares about it
counselor4u says:
April 5, 2010 at 8:31 pm
Warning. Hate is on it’s way to Blacksburg.
http://www.newsplex.com/video?clipID=4677989&autoStart=true&contentID=89945127
We should all make contact with each media outlet in that area and beg them to not give these evil people any air time to spew their hatred. That one clip was more than I should have listened too. I just cannot believe anyone could be so cruel and heartless, in the midst of this horrible tragedy, especially to Morgan & the Harrington family. Thank God Gil won’t be in town that day!
Did Morgan get in the car with the perp or did she get a ride from a “familiar face” and then the perp was united somehow with her at a later destination?
TDBone -
I just went back to review your photos and realized that you are also the one who posted the aerials. Amazing work, being from the West Coast you open a window for those of us who are unable to see what you see. Thank you.
Blink-
Warning: “Hate is on it’s way”
This the first time in my life that I have ever recognized what a sheltered life I live. I was totally unaware that this kind of hatered was amongst us.
I can not believe what I just heard come out of that woman’s month.
I have spent time inside hospitals for the mentally insane. (Not for myself; visiting) and I thought that I had seen it all, but this is something different. This is evil!
Opps!
I meant mouth not month. Sorry, I am shaken to the very core.
Some alarming news from Afton Mountain (at Waynesboro):
http://www2.dailyprogress.com/cdp/news/local/article/attack_leads_to_manhunt_on_afton_mountain/54493/
Oh my goodness, I just watched that video. The woman is delusional; that’s all I will say about it. I refuse to give her or her group another cubic centimeter of the air I breathe to refute them.
On TDBone’s map- he has a spot marked for the 7-11 with a tag talking about a cab driver. It quotes someone as stating that a cabby told them that he was interviewed by LE because Morgan was seen making a purchase at this location… and that this cabby was there at the same time. I have never heard this before. Where did this quote come from? Is this the rumored “debit card” usage?
How would LE know this specific cab was at this location at this specific time? Surveillance footage? If so, was Morgan on it? Was this ever confirmed through employees at the 7-11 or ATM records?
Although it is 2nd or 3rd hand info, it DOES seem to extend naturally as a “next step” progression from LE’s original timeline charting Morgan’s movements.
You know, I am not sure where that account came from, but TD is great about addressing posts to him-
B
Does anyone know where this account originated?
Blink, can you lend any credibility to this statement/account?
fish…
wow, where to start…and avoid a pissing contest…
since when does “spectacle = provocative”…?!?
perhaps i shouldve said “noticeable”…thats why women wear them, right??
…and when does “Clothes, shoes, belts, condoms, makeup, wrappers, etc!!!” = BLACK KNEE HIGH BOOT(S)
my point was, and still is, imo, “black knee high boots” are a tad more rare to find on the side of the road, than a gum wrapper…
**sidestory (kinda) OT**
when i was a young man, i bought a red corvette…about 2 months later, i was “going with the flow of traffic” at about 75 mph on a local interstate and was subsequently pulled over and given a speeding ticket…when i asked the officer, why me??
his response: “when you bought that car, you wanted it to stand out didnt you??”
in summary, while you are barking up the wrong tree if you think i am of the “she(or any other victim for that matter) had it coming” camp due to her attire, i am also of the belief that you can bring unwanted, negative, and sometimes deadly attention to yourself in the event that “plans” go awry, for instance, somehow getting locked out of an arena without having “planned” for that to happen…i mean, lets be honest with each other since you are calling me out, there is the “no one deserves to have another person put their hands on them unwantingly” stance which IMHO at face value has merit and is a true statement, but ridiculously naive, and then there is careful, smart, alert, and informed…which isnt fool proof either, but isnt that why “the gift of fear” is so popular on this site??
all that being said, i dont think Morgan’s attire was provocative in nature at all, but i am not a sexual deviant either…
Slowroller
Father of 2 girls
I think you did a nice job explaining your position. One of the things I would like to point out is that this issue is going to be seen differently by men and women for the most part.
FWIW, I think Morgan is/was a stunner and completely out of reach for these freaks and she paid for it with her life; it made no difference as to her attire.
B