Morgan Harrington Murder: Picture of Morgans Boot Released
Charlottesville, VA– Morgan Harringtons killers have not been apprehended.
Morgan was brutally slain, presumably, the evening of October 17th, 2009 after she went missing from the John Paul Jones Arena, located on the grounds of The University of Virginia. Her remains were recovered on January 26th, 2010 on the grounds of Anchorage Farm in Charlottesville, VA.
There have been countless witness accounts and reported sightings of Morgan since she vanished from JPJ, most of which, have been prefaced by stating “ or a person matching Morgan’s description”, so we are truly left to sift through what is accurate, and what is a well intentioned bystander.
One of the most conflicting item descriptions, is that of the boots she was wearing that fateful evening.
Below is a picture of the boot Morgan was wearing the evening of October 17, 2009, as confirmed by Morgan’s Mother Gil Harrington, to be “spot on”.
As you can see, it has no laces, and a cuff of approximately 3” that can be worn EITHER at the knee, or above, as reported by the witness who believes she saw Morgan walking away from JPJ with 4 men young men dressed in black, and again in the lot adjacent to Uhall.
Additionally confirmed to blinkoncrime.com, Morgan was wearing “footless” tights or leggings, which would require additional socks.
Morgan was known for the very distinctive socks she wore under these boots.
There is currently a $150,000 reward for information leading to the arrest and conviction for anyone responsible for the death of Morgan Harrington.
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This is very imformative….
http://www.findmorgan.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3022
eloise….
on facebook go to metallica’s page and click on events… the october 17 concert appears on page 4 and will tell you who is attending, etc
Yesterday my friends’ 20-something year old son was found wandering around a mountain top road by a kindly elderly lady. He wasn’t making much sense to the lady and had some scrapes so she told him, you are coming with me to the hospital, young man. He didn’t even know his own name or why he was on the mountain, so he went with the lady. She brought him to the hospital and there he remains. Now bits and pieces of his memory are coming back into focus. Catscan reveals nothing to worry about long term.
My point is that we need to keep all possibilities open when we imagine what Morgan was doing that night. TBI’s are tricky. We know she fell and had symptoms people described as drunkenness.
My son’s friend was sober. He had crashed his mountain bike into a tree. But the lady who found him stated that had she met him anywhere but the middle of a road on a mountain forest, she would have thought he was drunk or on drugs.
Well I do agree with that. I personally think it possible Morgan was injured when she hit her chin.
B
Here is the newest photobucket album of Morgan’s memorial on the Copeley Road bridge. I have decided to make albums named by the date I take the photos, so we can sort of keep track of our rocks that way.
http://s1030.photobucket.com/albums/y361/juliemooly_2010_2/Morgan%20Rocks2_April%2006%202010/?albumview=slideshow
The closeups of some of the rocks aren’t as close as I would have liked, but it’s hard to see my digital LCD screen when the sun is this bright. I’m not complaining, though, that’s for sure. It’s nice to see the beautiful weather.
Also, this is the free version of photobucket, so you may have to scroll down on the page past a couple of ads to see the photos. Actually, I think this link takes you straight to the slideshow view, but you can click on the page somewhere if you want to go to individual photos for a closer look. I’ll let you know when I take more photos and post them.
I would like to compliment duannah on findmorgan.
Reading duannah, I believe finally, there will be Justice
for dear Morgan soon. I believe BOC as well as the other think-tanker sites have been a tremendous help to law enforcement in this case.
If LE doesn’t go and get him, I’m afraid the citizens of Abermarle County will, torches in hand.
I think the FBI/ATF are involved with the blue ridge shooting because it is national park land and thus under federal jurisdiction. That being said, if this is random as it appears, this definitely could be some serial killer or serial killer wannabee.
Not both, there has to be another reason.
B
The Blue Ridge perp apparently started to hurl rocks at the woman he shot and didn’t stop pummelling her with rocks until she pretended to be dead.
http://www.readthehook.com/blog/index.php/2010/04/06/parkway-terror-radio-personality-in-critical-condition-after-shooting/
Re: TDbone
Thanks for the response.
That is a little odd, eh? Wonder if it was deleted a while back, or after your map was posted and discussed?
I remember a few months back there was a bunch of internet chatter with people saying that posts were “disappearing”. I believe LE of some sort actually made a statement saying that they would never ask a blogger to remove posts. Not sure if this was one of the instances, but interesting none the less.
I think the FBI/ATF are involved with the blue ridge shooting because it is national park land and thus under federal jurisdiction. That being said, if this is random as it appears, this definitely could be some serial killer or serial killer wannabee.
Not both, there has to be another reason.
B
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Well, let me ponder that …
What else might the FBI be “assisting” on in the C’ville/Albemarle area these days?
You think?
This freak threw her off the cliffside after he shot her. Then he threw rocks at her. That’s what her uncle says.
http://www2.dailyprogress.com/cdp/news/local/article/attack_leads_to_manhunt_on_afton_mountain/54493/
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The shotgun-wielding assailant on the Blue Ridge Parkway shot both his victims, apparently at random, then shoved them over the mountainside, according to a man who identified himself as the uncle of one of the victims.
One victim, an 18-year-old woman from Palmyra, fought back against her attacker, tearing the gunman’s shirt before he shoved her down the embankment, her uncle told The Daily Progress. The gunman then threw rocks at her, the uncle added.
The young woman eventually was picked up by a man and a woman who were driving along the parkway. The gunman then fired his shotgun at the fleeing car, the uncle said.
The other victim, a 27-year-old Charlottesville man, had fallen some 120 feet from the overlook.
The two victims have not been identified by police. The uncle, Tom Haley, a California resident who formerly lived in Charlottesville, declined to identify his niece out of concern for her and the investigation.
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Of course, The Hook has more details:
http://www.readthehook.com/blog/index.php/2010/04/06/parkway-terror-radio-personality-in-critical-condition-after-shooting/#more-30702
The male victim is a well-known radio DJ who has muscular dystrophy and sometimes uses a wheelchair.
Juliemooly, great photos.
Huh. The original headline was JPJ changes security policy. Guess the lawyer told them that was risky (admitting culpability in Morgan’s death).
Still…does this put to rest the rumor that she was never at JPJ?
http://www.nbc29.com/Global/story.asp?S=12265678
JPJ Reinforces Security Policy
Posted: Apr 06, 2010 4:55 PM EDT
Updated: Apr 06, 2010 5:14 PM EDT
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JPJ Reinforces Security Policy In light of Morgan Harrington’s disappearance, and her murder, the University Of Virginia is responding to questions about security at John Paul Jones Arena.
UVA has made a few significant changes to security policies at the arena, including re-training staff to be on the lookout for people who appear hurt or in distress.
The new policy also requires staff to call a manager if they notice an impaired person attempting to leave the building, and to call university police if they’re concerned about the health or safety of anyone inside. This is an attempt to seek out a people who may be in trouble, and to help them. It’s an effort to prevent the same thing from happening to another young person that happened to Morgan Harrington.
The no re-entry policy at the John Paul Jones Arena is still in place. The University will not elaborate as to whether they’re thinking of changing that.
Good for this spunky girl! Sounds like she got some of his DNA under her nails. Wouldn’t it be amazing if this could be a link between Morgan and the Metzler/Childs murders? Do you think the ATF is collecting info on the shotgun used?
Awa says:
eloise,on facebook go to metallica’s page and click on events… the october 17 concert appears on page 4 and will tell you who is attending.
Thank you, I went thru the limited names, just checking to see if anyone notable from today’s news were a fan. Nada!
RE Blue Ridge Shootings- I wonder if the caliber/ballistic info is the same as any prior shootings??
ConcernedBystander says:
April 6, 2010 at 3:27 pm
“Breeden may have a dark side. On his Facebook profile, he has uploaded many horror film clips. He also posted a quiz to his profile that asks, “What Crime Are You?,” to which he answered, “Murder.”
I wouldn’t read anything into the Facebook “What Crime Are You?” thing. Those quizzes are the most annoying thing on FB (next to Farmville). There is one of the quizzes for everything you can think of. The reporter makes it sound like he volunteered the answer Murder. You answer questions and FB tells you “what you are” based on your answers. This was just a poor attempt at journalism in my opinion.
Ok, re-thinking my post from above. This latest shooting could very well be tied to the Metzler!/Childs shooting, but probably not Morgan. Completely different MO I guess. But it was awfully close by.
Shout out to Juliemooley: Thank you for taking the time to photograph the memorial. It looks awesome. We will look forward for your addional pics.
Please continue to keep us updated.
Also, I normally do not like to call out on folks, but this one IMO does deserve at least a comment.
HokieHi says to concerned bystandard:
I wouldn’t read anything into the Facebook “What Crime Are You?” thing. Those quizzes are the most annoying thing on FB (next to Farmville). There is one of the quizzes for everything you can think of. The reporter makes it sound like he volunteered the answer Murder. You answer questions and FB tells you “what you are” based on your answers. This was just a poor attempt at journalism in my opinion.
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I can respect what you are attempting to say HokieHi. But social networking sites can provide a wealth of information. if searched correctly and properly. For example, LE thought that this particular myspace page was worthy of information, and probably was used as evidence in augmenting charges. The Daily progress.
When investigating a “brutal murder”, we must take into all considerations, including social networking sites. This isn’t a video game. You are kind of kidding yourself if you think LE hasn’t scoured every single my space, FB and other networking site in the pool of POI’s in this case.
http://www2.dailyprogress.com/cdp/news/local/crime/article/teen_facing_rape_charge/23300/
In all fairness, let’s let LE decide whether this is along the same lines as “farmville” on FB. ( by the way, I have a black sheep that needs a home? Anyone?)
I applaud concerned bystandard for posting. Thank you for that information.
Suz, just saw your post on the UVA article. Very interesting. I hope that Morgan was instrumental in changing the security policies.
PamVA: Oh Morgan, please have that DNA right there under your nails.
Hey Chad, I was actually talking about the girl from the recent blue ridge shooting. The article stated that she fought and scratched him so much so that she broke two fingers. It would be great if Morgan has her killers DNA also.
Thank you juliemooly for the slide show.
We just returned from vacation in Virginia, beautiful state but I was ever mindful of my 16 year old daughter. Even though we stayed in a gated resort, I never let her walk anywhere alone, not even from the pool building to the condo. I don’t allow her “wander” alone at home either. It used to be that she would run during the day alone, or drive to the mall but no more. Even this winter, we were at one of her brother’s hockey games and she wanted to run out to the car to get her camera, normally I would have given her the keys and let her go but not anymore, I go with her. It only takes a second for someone to be taken. It is a sad world that we live in.
Regarding the ATF and FBI working well together: once upon a time it wasn’t so cheery. It still isn’t in many places. They were merged (clumsily) in 2003. Where I live they both work and play well together, even though the FBI can be shapoopy.
Some time ago, I went to a party for a US Attorney. Many people. Spontaneous introductions: “Javier, FBI” “George, IRS” “Abby, ATF” “Kim, DOJ” “Beverly, Sheriff’s department. I choked on my pinot noir and relegated myself to kitchen duty where I eavesdropped only as much as I dared. I believe I kissed the birthday girl and slipped out the back door.
Yep. This is what Im sayn’ it is rare considering both of their SOP’s for participation/jurisdiction.
B
Regarding this post: “Has anyone noticed that on the night Morgan went missing there was a rescue squad call for a “Psychiatric -Trauma” in the early morning hours(around 1:30AM) and it occured in an area one exit east of the exit that would lead south to AF(from interstate 64). It can be found listed at the following website. http://warhammer.mcc.virginia.edu/rids/rids.php” I did a little digging and that address is in the Southwood mobile home (trailer) park, which is a really, really downtrodden area, and it wouldn’t surprise me if a poor, uninsured, and therefore untreated, mentally ill person ended up in an ambulance.
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Regarding this: “sudafed says:
April 2, 2010 at 11:23 pm
Eye witness statements attribute four separate actions to Morgan after being locked out of JPJ:
1. Approaching a stranger, holding her arm out, and saying “let’s go”
2. Walking away from the arena in the company of four young men
3. Interacting with basketball players
4. Hitch-hiking on Copeley Rd bridge
What do all four of these actions have in common? To me, all four of these could be actions one would take if they were trying to avoid a stalker.” That is a good point. I hadn’t looked at all four of those interactions having something in common. In going off with the 4 BIB (boys in black) Morgan could have ended up in more danger with them than what she was trying to avoid, if she was trying to get away from someone she knew.
Word Girl—thanks for the link to the beautiful song by Nanci Griffith. Your kind words of credit for “providing a soft answer” to FS and “being a mentor” belong to someone else—quite possibly Mom3.0 or one of many other graceful posters here. I remember reading the post you are referring to but the reply in my head never made it to the comment box (which is probably a good thing).
I guess that’s the risk when you take when you post on a message board. Unfortunately, tone is inferred. I assure you that I was not calling anyone out for their post. But if you read the way the statement is phrased “What crime are you” to which he answered “Murder”, the reporter makes it sound as though he voluntarily said “murder”. The truth is that facebook answered “murder” not the person in question. Is he a murderer? Don’t know, not my place to assume. I was just pointing out the fact that reporting can spin something to make it look different than it actually is. I’m sorry if offended anyone.
8.acho says:
April 6, 2010 at 5:49 pm
I think the FBI/ATF are involved with the blue ridge shooting because it is national park land and thus under federal jurisdiction. That being said, if this is random as it appears, this definitely could be some serial killer or serial killer wannabee.
Not both, there has to be another reason.
B
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I have no clue why, but as soon as I 1st story came out yesterday on this I immediately thought of Beacher Ferrel Hackney, the who shot his 2 co-workers at the Homestead Resort. Today is the 1st I got to see the description, and it’s not that far off, and neither is the Homestead from this area. Hackney has not been caught, and was charged with capital murder & use of a firearm in commission of a felony: http://www.vsp.state.va.us/wanted/Hackney-Beacher-Ferrel.pdf
With so many violent crimes in and around all these areas lately, like Morgan/Heidi Childs/Dave Metzler/Cassandra Morton/and now this, I’m beginning to wonder if this is someone out there that is actually taunting LE, as in telling them here I am, but you just can’t catch me.
How many more will there be before there is a resolution to at least 1 of these cases. Could they all be related ???
http://www.nbc29.com/global/story.asp?s=12165181
Woman’s Disappearance Handled Correctly
Posted: Mar 18, 2010 3:30 PM EDT
Updated: Apr 01, 2010 3:25 AM EDT
Waynesboro police say their officer properly handled a missing-persons case that ended in a woman’s death.
Dannell Kraus’s husband first reported his 32-year-old wife missing last Friday. Officers did not file a missing-persons report until Sunday, after state police found her vehicle in a remote area near Afton. They returned Sunday night to find Kraus’s body down a ravine.
Waynesboro police say the circumstances surrounding her disappearance did not meet the criteria for entering her case into state and national databases.
There is no word yet on how she died.
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Too many situations happening in this area…WTH???
Is somebody effing with me? Are you kidding? A spouse does not report his wife as missing for weeks and this is appropriate action? I am afraid anything else I say will be of earmuff quality.
B
So, I have been thinking about LE in a pre-recovery/post-recovery kind of way.
Pre-recovery, I question many things LE did/didn’t do. I often think that they believed she left of her own free will initially and therefore did not work the case as agressively as they could have (I have read many, many posts that say that people called in tips and they never heard a thing back). Possibly this changed after enough time passed (the random highway search).
Post-recovery, I think everything changed. I think of how specific they were in the press conference, setting up a special tip line just for location tips, reaching out to the people of North Garden, then the call to bikers. This seems to me like they had some kind of sometthing that led them to those specific requests, which then means that they do have something, there is some kind of a foundation to the case. Again, I hope this is not just wishfull thinking.
I remember at the time of the recovery, they said that a wealth of forensic evidence was recovered from where Morgan was found. If so, there must have been something that ended up being of some forensic/evidence value to the case.
another story
http://www2.wsls.com/sls/news/local/article/john_paul_jones_arena_changes_procedures_in_light_of_morgan_harrington_situ/91627/
John Paul Jones Arena changes procedures in light of Morgan Harrington situation
By Scott Leamon | WSLS10 Reporter
Published: April 6, 2010
Updated: April 6, 2010
In the wake of the Morgan Harrington situation, UVA has changed its re-entry policy at the John Paul Jones Arena, something Harrington’s father suggested several weeks ago.
The university has told arena employees to allow for reentry if anyone is showing signs of distress.
State police said Harrington was cut on the chin after falling at a Metallica concert last fall.
Since she left the building during the show, policy at that time directed employees not to allow her back inside.
A farmer found Harrington’s remains on his Albemarle County property in late January, about five miles from the UVA campus.
“In this whole situation with Morgan, if one thing had been different we would have a live daughter today,“ Dan Harrington said during an interview Tuesday.
Harrington said he did not blame the university or the arena.
“That’s not taking away Morgan’s responsibility and the decisions she made,“ he said. “She certainly was an adult. I wish she had made some different decisions and I wish other people had made different decisions too.“
Harrington hopes the policy change will be the one thing that might save another person from getting hurt.
Blink,
I’d like to ask a couple of questions, though I know you are unable to fully elaborate.
1. Do you still feel that one of the possible perps are well connected or of good standing within the community?
2. Do you feel one of the possible perps are affiliated with fire/rescue etal?
3. Are you sure in your mind whether Morgan was familiar with these perp(s) prior to the night of the 17th?
4. Could the association be in education as well as music?
I am not asking these questions to put you in a position, just a conversation starter. But as the saying goes, my cheese has jumped back to someone of interest from prior threads, or that was revealed in other discussions. I guess I don’t know if I am going in the right direction. Any help? Thanks.
juliemooly says:
April 6, 2010 at 9:50 pm
Regarding this post: “Has anyone noticed that on the night Morgan went missing there was a rescue squad call for a “Psychiatric -Trauma” in the early morning hours(around 1:30AM) and it occured in an area one exit east of the exit that would lead south to AF(from interstate 64). It can be found listed at the following website. http://warhammer.mcc.virginia.edu/rids/rids.php” I did a little digging and that address is in the Southwood mobile home (trailer) park, which is a really, really downtrodden area, and it wouldn’t surprise me if a poor, uninsured, and therefore untreated, mentally ill person ended up in an ambulance.
That’s interesting. Louis Hernandez, the Hispanic male who was indicted today for raping an underage girl in that same trailer park community.
http://www.nbc29.com/Global/story.asp?S=12259366
This was always interesting for me to ponder…
{On Wednesday, Oct. 21, several days after Morgan’s disappearance, University of Virginia Police and the Virginia State Police held a press conference in order to discuss the progression of the case.
The departments announced they’d thoroughly searched the area around the John Paul Jones Arena, including Davenport Field, Klockner Stadium and the woods surrounding these areas.
As a result of their efforts, police have RECOVERED SOME of Morgan’s POSSESSIONS}
-Anything else solid besides the recovery of her purse and broken cell phone?-
http://www.amw.com/missing_persons/case.cfm?id=68876
{Morgan, 20, disappeared in October after stepping outside a Metallica concert to smoke a cigarette. She left some of her belongings inside and was not allowed to regain access to the venue.}
-Anything else besides her ticket and car keys?-
http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2010m1d26-Remains-found-on-Virginia-farm-may-be-that-of-missing-student-Morgan-Harrington
-It seems like it was mentioned that Morgan’s shattered bones were a result of antemortem injuries. I’ve read some comments about Morgan perhaps being dropped from a plane (I don’t agree with that possibility)…I’ve often wondered if Morgan’s shattered, jagged, sharp ended, bones were the inadvertent result of the tractor equipment being driven by Mr. Bass while feeding his cattle?-
-Or perhaps her bones were shattered in attempt to “make sure” she was dead after the fact? I would imagine many conclusions could be drawn by several different expert sources.
Mr. Bass-”I mean it’s not something I’d personally like to do. I know people have spent thousands of hours looking for Morgan Harrington”
-What is the something you’d personally not like to do? -Spend time looking for Morgan Harrington while she was missing? -Or finding her remains is something you’d not personally like to have been the one to do?-
“There was absolutely nothing. Very little left.” “There WAS some clothing”
-So wait, let me get this straight, absolutely nothing, BUT there was some clothing?-
Getting back to connections…There is a certain cVillain’s brother, who after working in restaurants for six years decided to join the marines. I wonder how often he returns to the area? I wonder if he eats at Wild Wings? I wonder if he use to work there?
Consider a number of standing dominos aligned in a row: this tragic story seems to be based on a series of events (dominos) that led to the end of Morgan’s life …
The first domino was Morgan leaving the arena … Why did she leave? What condition was she in?
The second domino was Morgan attempting to return to the arena … Why wasn’t she allowed in or helped?
The third domino was Morgan’s call to her “friends” … Why didn’t they come to help her?
The fourth domino was Morgan’s contact with various people: basketball players, boys in black … What do they know? What did they do to her or with her?
The fifth domino was Morgan hitchhiking … Was this something that she had done before? Where was she going? Who picked her up? Where did they go? What happened?
The last domino was the death of Morgan.
The tragic series of events (dominos) would have had a happy ending with the elimination of any one of the dominos. (IMO)
Those boots are definately part of the story .Very appropriate to feature them . Not being a woman i can’t imagine the effect they would have or who would become interested . From my own experience i can only but extrapolate . As a member of a Highland regiment for severial years i would often be in public areas intermingling doing whatever . Dressed in Glengarry,Red Sash,Kilt,full length White and Black hair sporn ,spit shine boots,white thigh spats with red and white diamond socks i got lots of attention . Generally from out of breath American female tourists with all kids of questions ,wanting to know all kinds of things .Wanting to have their picture taken with me ,wanting to shower with dinners gifts etc etc. Generally they consumed lots of time and became quite clingy . It is a basic fact that what you wear will often dictate how people interact with you .
Jfm-
I am holding it for a reason. I should have told you that, my bad. It is not the same truck, but I am researching some property issues also associated with it, I will move it to the top, thanks for being patient.
B
ooops, I meant “the tattoo OF the skull with bullet holes through it and the words, “Death Before Dishonor” wrapped around it.
I think Bass meant (with “there was nothing left”) she was pretty skeletonized (but not totally).
and crimewriter,not just a tractor running over her; how about cows walking over her? maybe even when she was covered with snow (say on their way to the woods or creek)
Crimewriter:
“There is a certain cVillain’s brother, who after working in restaurants for six years decided to join the marines. I wonder how often he returns to the area? I wonder if he eats at Wild Wings? I wonder if he use to work there?”
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Hey Crimewriter,
Do you know that he did work there?
He is stationed in Kaneohe, HI, now. Do you know if he was in town the weekend of Oct 17?
I thought he joined prior to that?
B
Dannell Kraus’s husband first reported his 32-year-old wife missing last Friday. Officers did not file a missing-persons report until Sunday, after state police found her vehicle in a remote area near Afton. They returned Sunday night to find Kraus’s body down a ravine.
Waynesboro police say the circumstances surrounding her disappearance did not meet the criteria for entering her case into state and national databases.
There is no word yet on how she died.
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Too many situations happening in this area…WTH???
The problem is that almost NO local LEO are trained to handle missing persons cases effectively.
That is not a slam, it is the equivalent of putting a linebacker in at quarterback and expecting him to be agile. Except, in the former, someone’s life , or whether or not someone gets away with murder hangs in the balance.
Their needs to be a statewide mandate for handling missing persons cases, period.
B
Is somebody effing with me? Are you kidding? A spouse does not report his wife as missing for weeks and this is appropriate action? I am afraid anything else I say will be of earmuff quality.
B
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Blink, No disrespect to you, but I sincerely think that our regional LE agencies are about the same caliber as Barney Fife. I don’t have much faith left in their capabilities. I think that unless the murderers decide to confess, none of these crimes are going to be solved. I am going to go get a taser and a gun. I don’t feel safe and don’t have confidence in local authorities any longer.
The problem is that almost NO local LEO are trained to handle missing persons cases effectively.
That is not a slam, it is the equivalent of putting a linebacker in at quarterback and expecting him to be agile. Except, in the former, someone’s life , or whether or not someone gets away with murder hangs in the balance.
Their needs to be a statewide mandate for handling missing persons cases, period.
B
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What can WE, the citizens of this community, do to make this happen? With the number of missing persons reported almost daily on the news, it seems as though every LE office from local to VSP should have trained personnel. Tell us what we can do to make a change.
My first cousin look alike is a forest ranger ,in charge of the heavy forest fire equipment in my region . He does neat things for hobbies . One on topic thing is that he keeps four or five bloodhounds ongoing . He is often called upon to search for bad people by LE or lost people .With his skill in the outdoors he has a good track record . Especially with the very young that just wonder away if he is called in promptly. They don’t usually get that far but the hounds can find them quickly whereas searchers can’t .FWIW
Acho & Blink–I need to ask you if the person you are referring to who is stationed in HI-does he have ties to, or is he from, Spotsylvania? I ran across info regarding this Spotsylvania guy while researching EMH. (Wondered if EMH was posting online under a different name.) Spots guy has a very disturbing Myspace.
Blink:
http://uaddit.com/discussions/showthread.php?t=5574
Note comment by: Want-to-be Profiler
11-09-2009 – Dont take this serious but
There was a possibility that a man may have offered her some drugs or alcohol by the ladies restroom. Later they were found arguing, she was let outside not allowed back in then whomever she was arguing with may have followed her to the bridge and then while no one was aware that she may have been in trouble they may have had another argument and before she could do anything she dropped her purse as she was abducted into the night. I say this because she seems to be the “trusting type,” also her pupils are always dilated and her skin is unusually yellow which seems to denote drug use the perp., probably was in his early to middle thirties, white and sort of short with some kind of facial hair? Probably not so very well groomed and has a personality that is a bit introverted as well as stalker-ish but easy to talk too. She is probably not buried or in a very shallow grave, and on the edge of a forest in a field about 6-15 miles away, she may be nude and possibly posed to make it look like something else may have happened. The more I read about her case I can almost suspect the guy drives a red car or some sort of white truck. The perpetrator may live close to where Morgan was laid to rest, she probably was strangled or bludgeoned to death by an object or if they knew each other by bare hands. Poor Girl she should have picked better friends to be with and watch her a little more closely. This is purely speculation on what I have read though… I do hope they find her! Alive!
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A red car???? Like the one mentioned in the Parkway shooting attempt????? Do you know if LE has looked into this poster?? Someone is definately effing with this community!!!
Blink—off topic, but thought you might be interested in seeing this: “Death penalty hearing set in Stem mom’s slaying” http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/7372786/
Are you saying he is a relative? Or just fyi. He deserves the death penalty, and I believe his Dad should be facing charges as well.
B
Julie — thank you so much for the updated pix — they are beautiful — you did a great job — I LOVE the signs to the murderers to give themselves up !! Rock on, Morgan — we’re going to rock on w/ you until you have justice !!!!
I love the dots on the guardrail, too — that girl might be gone from this plane, but she sure as heck ain’t forgotten !!!
Blink … Get’em! Time is of the essence! TDBOONE, etc., good job! Donations for law school for Observer? Just in time for a prosecution? Compentence on UVA’s care of their environs? I don’t think they should want that for their reputation! And (‘they’) UVA should SEE to it that those supporting them should be of the ‘highest’ calibre, as well. Step up Cville … or, do you want a web-site to out LE you?!???!??
Thanks to everyone for their kind words. Come back everyday, I’m not shuttin’ up til he’s in jail. People in North Garden are going to get sick of me. But they know we’ve got to get him. Blink, I can’t wait to direct them to your next piece on this. We really need to make a light bulb moment for one of them!
Thanks, working on it, we are in the tread lightly phase on this one.
B
PSSSS: The Texas Rangers will be more than willing to solve this for you, if it is too ‘hard’ for ya’ll!!! JUST CALL!!!
suz says:
April 7, 2010 at 3:41 am
Re: Until there is something conclusively released, I’m just theorizing the same as anyone else. So with that said, you and others could very well be right about the cows causing the fractures and breaks, however based on my knowledge and experience, I think it’s unlikely the the cattle trampled over her remains and caused the damage. Personally, I’d like to think Morgan fought with nails and teeth to the very end if she had to…
For a good read, this is a link to the transcripts released from the Georgia Bureau of Investigation. This is the interview with GBI Agents and convicted serial killer Gary Michael Hilton and his attorney.
http://www.11alive.com/news/article_news.aspx?storyid=113395
{I’m only including this link because a lot can be learned from these monsters; although their rationale of thinking can never be understood}
acho says:
April 7, 2010 at 7:56 am
Re: Yes, I’m aware of his work history, current training and etc. I’ve been doing a lot of sleuthing. Blink is right, he did join prior to that. I don’t know if he was in the area at the time. I think it’s interesting that their mother travels and protests on the left at anti-war rallies.
As someone said in earlier thread, “All is in, until one, (er’ more) is out. No rock goes unturned…
Re posting a map link again…
http://www.c-ville.com/Image/–2205/anchorage_farm_map-enlarge.jpg
I’ve sat and stared at this map for several minutes. I agree, it was a miracle Morgan’s remains were ever found. I forget off hand if it was the Laura Recovery Team who quoted or another search team, but they stated shortly after Morgan remains were found that they believed that her remains would have been found by the end of January anyway, as they had mapped and plotted to search the exact area where her remains were found.
*Blink, you are so right on; “Their needs to be a statewide mandate for handling missing persons cases, period”
There is SO little training within local departments. There are some county and municipal agencies within all states that still literally will not even make a report, begin investigating, or enter missing person’s information on the National Crime Information System until at least a 48 hour mark unless of course it is a small child or elderly person with a history of Alzheimer’s disease or dementia. I hope mandated training and protocols is something that does come to be in the near future. Demand it.
sorry — I have been out of the loop for a couple of days and I don’t know that I’ll ever catch up — and so MANY great posts ! — just FWIW, I have switched to using firefox to post – it does the rss feed and catches typos —
Second, Blink, I was hearing your words because you’ve said it before as I was reading about that horrible Waynesboro tragedy earlier this week — they are NOT trained, and I believe they are following the protocol they are given — but even if they do not file a MP report, they should start an investigation —
In my heart, I believe our Morgan was alive on Sunday — if LE had done something other than argue over who has jurisdiction, and brought some pressure to bear on those damn non-friends — she might have been saved — I know “might” is a little word w/ lots of big meanings.
I am still doing research on how to start that non-profit organization — it will not happen overnight —
everyone who reads this, what you CAN do RIGHT NOW — contact your state senators and congressmen — they are the ones who can change the Va. laws — lobbists have the bucks, but YOU have the power of the vote — use it ! Tell them you want the laws changed on the sentence for sex offenders — tell them you want your local jurisdictions to have MP training and the laws changed in your state — tell them if they don’t do something, you’ll vote them out of office — then contact your US senators and congressmen — tell ‘em the same thing about an adult amber alert-type system —
I realize that LE will start spouting off the usual “statistics” line of: 85 % come home on their own, the reason for the 48 hr — well, are we supposed to ignore the 15 % who end up dead thrown down into a ravine ??? — or dumped out in a back pasture to rot in a tree line ??
I don’t think the cows were back there — in the pix, they seem to stay near the area of the houses — plus the grass was allegedly high — if her forearms were broken it could denote defensive wounds —
Blink, because you have SO MUCH spare time — right ! — I wish you could form a company that you will give presentations to LE agencies across this country on the need to act promptly — by its very nature, LE has to be cross trained on many different situations — but your experience in the past few years is in MP cases — your data can play a significant role in response times and what to do — something as simple as telling the Harringtons not to go into her bedroom or her apt.; don’t touch her things until they have been forensically tested — I mean, how simple can it be for LE to have a check list to give to families of MPs of things to do or not to do ?
Sorry — don’t mean to ramble or be on a soap box — there is a wealth of information that the public can assist LE — that a public body is willing to do — for example: I wish the H’s had set up a tip line of their own — I’m positive people would have come in and volunteered to man the lines — and compile data to resource to LE —
I keep hearing over and over: no one ever got back to me —
I contacted the VSP tipline on Monday, the 19th and spoke w/ a “real person” — told her I was lost and drove over the Copeley Bridge twice between 9:10 PM and 9:35 PM and no HH’g anybody, or no pedestrians on that bridge — because as a mother I was noticing kids/students out in that crappy weather w/ no coat — maybe they have better eye witness accounts that she was on the bridge and did at least appear to be HH’g during that time frame — but no one ever called me back, either —
Mothers should not be terrified to allow their 16 y/o daughter to walk out to the car to get her camera — my son is 19 and I’m terrified of him walking out to his car at the restaurant where he works after hours —
we are not powerless !
Blink re; your response,
“Jfm-
I am holding it for a reason. I should have told you that, my bad. It is not the same truck, but I am researching some property issues also associated with it, I will move it to the top, thanks for being patient.
B”
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TY B. Regarding “property issues”, are you saying you think the home could possibly be the primary as I suggested in my comment? If you do, I’m assuming you would be forwarding the info to LE, right?
Not exactly, there is an issue as to property being “in trust”, which makes my research a bit harder-
Absolutely unequivocally, anything that is case specific goes to LE, no exceptions.
I don’t think he is involved in what happened to Morgan though, but I cannot rule out he may have known something about it at this time.
B