Kyron Horman Missing and Endangered: John Walsh on Today Show- “Media Will Solve This Case”
Portland, OR– Appearing on The Today Show this morning, John Walsh, parent of murdered child Adam Walsh, discusses missing 7 year old Kyron Horman. While the people of Kyron’s community are being told Kyron’s disappearance is an isolated incident, Walsh states the media will solve this case, as they do 99% of the time.
Although yesterday marked the end of the full scale ground efforts in it’s 10th day since June 4, Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office continues to seek leads and tips from the public. Recently, a list of roadways was provided to the media the MCSO is seeking any traffic video footage from June 3rd and June 4th. Did Kyron’s perpetrator make a dry run Thursday, June 3rd?
Video footage: The Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office is seeking video of traffic on 15 Portland roads taken June 3 and June 4, the day Kyron Horman disappeared. Call the search tip line and leave your contact information and the location or street address where you took the footage. The streets: Northwest Cornelius Pass Road, Northwest Germantown Road, Northwest Logie Trail Road, Northwest Rocky Point Road, Northwest Skyline Road, Northwest 185th Avenue, Northwest West Union Road, Northwest Springville Road, Bethany Boulevard, Northwest Newberry Road, Northwest McNamee Road, U.S. 30 between Northwest Rocky Point Road to Northwest Germantown Road, Northwest Kaiser Road, Northwest Thompson Road, Northwest Laidlaw Road.
Cell Ping Triangulation?
Continuing today, divers have been spotted along Sauvie Island being instructed by a Geospatial analyst. A source inside the investigation speaking to blinkoncrime.com on the condition of anonymity has confirmed the team is being guided by the aerial images taken from the National Guards Black Hawk Helicopter this past weekend. The team has been advised they are looking for a large container, possibly a suitcase or duffle bag, within the shore line. Fueling the speculation MCPD may be looking for a serial sex offender, following blinkoncrime.com article and radio interview Sunday evening, journalists in Portland requested a judge make the Boy Scout “Perv Files” public information the following day in a previously unscheduled court appearance. On Monday, the judge promised to “get a decision out as fast as I can.” The jury awarded Lewis $1.4 million in compensatory damages and assessed the Scouts $18.5 million in punitive damages. The 1,247 files were described in court Monday as covering two decades and totaling more than 20,000 pages. The groups seeking the records are The Oregonian, The New York Times, Oregon Public Broadcasting, KGW-TV, The Associated Press and Courthouse News Service. Their lawyer, Dan Lindahl of Portland, cited the state constitution’s Bill of Rights: “No court shall be secret, but justice shall be administered, openly and without purchase.” Contributing editor Jason Mateos, Klaasend
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The radionewz link does work, though (the WW Blog link doesn’t). I just tested again. I swear, if this SM did this, I just want to drive to Portland and ask her “WHY, WHY, WHY????”
A tweet one hour ago from Willamette Weekly, which is currently unreachable on-line: “Law enforcement sources say the search for Kyron Horman is focusing on his step-mother, cell records and Sauvie Island.” Writer is James Pitkin on Twitter.
Are they wrong?
Let me be clear in my communication with all readers:
I will stake my professional reputation on the fact that this is a sexually motivated crime.
If we agree on that, how is one getting to the SM?
B
Willamette Weekly now works: http://blogs.wweek.com/news/2010/06/17/sources-search-for-kyron-horman-focuses-on-step-mom-cell-records/
(sorry for the multiple posts)
TR:: I tried to scroll back to find your comment with that link but can’t seem to spot it so could you just say what site the article was on & I can do a search on that site for the article..
TY
@Jackie.. TY for the link..
I have no idea how we tie Terri to a sexually motivated crime. We have to learn more about the details and her before we can make such a horrific leap. Hurting a child is evil hurting a child for sexual motivation is double evil (if there can be such a thing). There have been some oddities uncovered about her…but no crime in having several marriages,children with multiple men, many many addresses, or even a stupid email address from perhaps a long time ago. I don’t get it, but then I don’t get the Sandra Cantu crime either….or any of them or the perpetrators.
From the same photo slideshow as the glasses without lens were found, I noticed the pants here were particularly dirty. Do you think it’s possible they actually did find his clothing as well?
Direct link to photo below.
http://picasaweb.google.com/primewriternews/KyronHormanClothes?feat=flashalbum#5482011934745791234
I’m new to the site but I am intrigued by your perspective.
Thanks.
Pitkin just tweeted that article site again but either the link is bad or it is having so many hits it’s hung up..
Jackie & TR, the links been deactivated but if you click on this google search, you can see where it was & most of it can still be read. I wonder if there’s an impending arrest or something? Or maybe they’re trying to keep it hush-hush? Is somebody else involved?
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Willamette+Weekly+search+for+kyron+horman+focuses+on+step+mom+cell+records&btnG=Search&aq=f&aqi=m1&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=
Hey Blink, If Kristian Scott Horman is Kaine’s brother, he was just convicted for child molestation in Washington! I also found a MySpace a/c for a Scottie Horman, looks like Kaine, & the info matches the offender. Could they be the same person & if so, is he allowed to have a MySpace a/c? Delete this if you think it’s erroneous…only trying to help… If you want the offender info, let me know…but it’s extremely long…
The Willamette Week article seems to be written straight out of the comments section of the Facebook group about Kyron’s disappearance. There are no quotes from LE or anything. I wouldn’t read so much into it.
Jackie the link is not working it too must be getting heavy traffic
I keep seeing “reports” about step mom and none of them from news sites I recognize. Hold on, people. The entire report on step mom’s cell phone is just too convenient. LE doesn’t give a peep for weeks but then all of a sudden LE starts blabbing to an unknown reporter. Doubtful. Maybe I am denial, but dammit, this imperfect woman doesn’t seem like a child killer to me.
Blink, you decide whether you want this posted or not but on the KOIN website where they posted “Rumors Swirl Around Horman Investigation” there is a comment today at 6:22pm posted by snoopysnooper as follows:
Kaine Horman’s brother was convicted yesterday in Snohomish County WA of third-degree child molestation. Read his records… he was also asked to be removed from a house when he was younger because HE was being molested. Put the pieces together, people. And don’t even try to say that “Terri is a victim.” She never liked Kyron anyway.
http://www.koinlocal6.com/content/news/topstories/story/Rumors-swirl-around-Horman-investigation/WPjHVDbfQkulpM6um9gubQ.cspx?p=Comments
So I went to Snohomish County WA jail register and searched Snohomish county sherrif. There is a Kristian Scott Horman booked yesterday under 3rd degree child molestation.
I’m not sure how to verify he is Kaine’s brother or how to search his records but thought I’d send it to you and you’d have an idea what to do. Not sure it has anything to do with this case but as you know if he had problems growing up then his siblings may have also. Something to consider. Please retract/edit anything you feel necessary if you’re going to post. Hope you’re feeling better!
“Let me be clear in my communication with all readers:
I will stake my professional reputation on the fact that this is a sexually motivated crime.
If we agree on that, how is one getting to the SM?
B”
Oh gosh blink you are brave to ask that question because what ever answer anyone comes up with will be the latest rumor!
But to answer and play along. If the step mom did this and it is a sexually motivated crime, she would have either sexually assulted him or she brought him to someone as pay off or as a “gift”.
I dont’ think that happened btw, just answering a what if question
You were bright to pick up my point.
The odds are absolutely stacked against her involvement.
B
Has anyone did a check on the bio mom or step dad or people from the school?
Sorry, here’s the link to the jail register:
http://web5.co.snohomish.wa.us/corrections/JailRegister/agencyJailRegisterSearch.aspx
here is a link from Prime Writer News Network with the story on SM
http://primewriter.com/news-1246-headlines/?p=7549
I tried searching for the Bio mom and stepdad but I don’t think I turned up anything. No public records. There are some records for Kyron’s teacher but nothing unusual.
I just don’t believe LE would make the statements that are being reported. It seems way, way, way out of character with what we’ve seen from them so far. I think the same parties that started the rumor Kyron was found are also responsible for this alleged “leaked” info about step mom. For God’s sake, if she is innocent, she has lost her child and become a pariah in society at the same time. Ugh, I feel sick to my stomach about every aspect of this case.
Maybe someone Terri could have been involved with is how we tie her to Kyron’s disappearance? I’m just throwing it out there. Something about Terri does not sit well with me.
Btw, there is a giant storm here in Nebraska. The night sky looks like it is torn in half. Very cool. I love a good storm. It puts life in perspective.
I am so with you. I love them. They remind me to respect the way of the world and it’s influence.
B
Is Kristian Horman Kaine Horman’s brother? A Kristian Horman was arrested in Washington State yesterday for child molestation. Go about half way down the linked page and click on the name “Kristian Scott Horman”.
http://web5.co.snohomish.wa.us/corrections/JailRegister/dailyBookingRegister.aspx
He is definitely his brother.
B
Twinkletoes–
I’m jealous…I’m in California and it’s already getting too hot. Be nice to snuggle up and watch a storm and hear the rain.
Lisa–
She seems odd to me too,but I’m not sure if that is mostly power of suggestion or real. I keep reminding myself that Kyron seemed like such a happy kid so she must be something right. This whole case is so strange.
I just saw this link on IST, it’s an arrest of a Kristian Scott Horman for CHILD MOLESTATION 3 (0084030) , Snohomish County, WA. He was arrested and booked on June 16, 2010. $0 bail.
9A.44.089(2) RCW/code
http://web5.co.snohomish.wa.us/corrections/JailRegister/dailyBookingRegister.aspx
Didn’t know if anyone had posted this yet, or if this is a relative of Kyron’s dad. Although on the other site he is being called his brother.
This case is heartrendingly sad, and I cannot stop thinking about it and hoping beyond hope that precious little Kyron is alive somewhere.
Blink–
I read that a Kristian Scott Horman was arrested in Washington state yesterday for child molestation. Have you heard this? There is speculation that he is Kaine’s brother. All circumstantial stuff–like age matches up, name and Ks,and his occupation is similar to Kaine’s. Just throwing it out there. I’ going to research and see I can find any facts.
HORMAN, KRISTIAN SCOTT
Book Number CIN Book Date Race Sex
2010011682 552430 6/16/2010 14:25:00 W M
Charge Description Disposition
CHILD MOLESTATION 3 (0084030) COMM
RCW/Code Bail Amount Court
9A.44.089(2) $0
Charging Agency Charge Date Arrest Type
SNOHOMISH COUNTY SHERIFF 6/16/2010 14:25:00 CM
Lisa says:
June 17, 2010 at 10:17 pm
That would make sense, abusive-ex or stalker, wanting to take what she loves to hurt her,get her back, LE 20/7, public announcement on facebook where “she” is going to be at the gym
I understand everyone wants answers, I just feel bad that people are pointing their finger at her, when there are so many different situations that it could be.
I guess the above gives me hope that someone is holding kyron, not to hurt him but hurt one of the parents. However that probably is not the case.
21. Blink, about the kids being home from school–batten down the hatches! The time of year when I come alive in a whole new way!
Is Kaine and Kristian’s father named Neil? Note there is a children’s book author in Oregon named Neil Horman – his newest story features “Terri the Red Squirrel.” One of Terri Moulton Horman’s email addresses was: roja_ardilla@—– (red squirrel). And Kyron’s lovely drawing appears to be a red squirrel. FWIW.
Rubyjv,
That ignorant comment made by a poster regarding SM on another site is precisely why I only come here and the Hinky Meter.
yes covert ccw – high 5! my dream is making all sex offenders all go to some inhabited island * fend for themselves thousands of miles out in the middle of the ocean & let them ALL violate one other & find their own dang food & shelter – no cost to society except for the initial helicopter ride over there & dropped from the sky
In prison we support their meals & education & medical care so why cant we write that off on our taxes as dependents?
I meant un inhabited – desolate
Sharing information. NewMonkey posted this on Scared monkeys. There has been discussion regarding A kristian horman is a part of a masonic church.
I saw on IS that Kristian Horman is a deacon. Here is the info posted on IS. I hope it’s okay to bring something from there to here? If not, I am sorry.
Greenwood Masonic Center
7910 Greenwood Ave N, Seattle, WA 98103
Meets on the 1st Thursday of each month at 7:00 p.m. (If a Holiday, then the 3rd Thursday). January and November meeting starts at 5:00 p.m. Dark July and August. (Contact)
Officers for 2006
Worshipful Master
WB Michael L. Ellsworth
Senior Warden
Bro. Neil Horman
Junior Warden
Bro. Leonard T. Hutchinson
Secretary
WB Roger Pankey
Treasurer
WB Bill A. Burnett
Chaplain
Bro. Herbie E. Martin
Marshall
Bro. Ralph Meyers
Musician
WB David Clarke
Senior Deacon
Bro. Kristian Horman
Junior Deacon
Bro. Robert Cittadini
Senior Steward
Bro. Ross Horman
Junior Steward
Bro. Aaron Ellsworth-Krebs
Tyler
WB Richard C. McMillan
Tonight I went to an opening at the science museum, A Journey to the Stars, and I found thinking about how much Kyron would enjoy the show. A little boy I’ve never even met and yet he’s touched my life.
Blink: if you think it’s a sexually motivated crime, then it probably is. I know little about child abduction, and what I do know I’ve learned in the past week. But since you posed the question about the SM, I’ll throw out the devil’s advocate question: Could the SM have been sexually abusing Kyron? It’s not as common with women, but it does happen. And as someone pointed out, sexual abuse begets sexual abuse, but sometimes in relationships partners switch the roles (the child of an alcoholic marries an alcoholic, the child of an sexual abuser marries an abuser…) I’m not saying that she is, I’m just throwing it out as a possibility, but one that’s probably far less likely statistically.
I did see that LE has come out and said that the reporting about Kyron’s body being found was erroneous and irresponsible, but I saw nothing where they shot down the SM/cell phone story.
And then a question for you: in order to be looking at cell phone triangulation from pings, LE would need to be working from a specific phone number, true?
If stepmom did it, it now makes sense why they said an officer was with the family at all times. Makng sure she didn’t make a move to hide/destroy an evidence she may have left behind.
I’m keeping an open mind. There is something slightly off center about the SM and I’m not referring to a FB page that I never saw. I’m also not saying that SM is guilty of the crime but something isn’t adding up for me. I’m also not reading anymore of the local stuff, there are some hateful comments that seemingly are coming out of a rotten grapevine.
Good Morning,
Well I see Fox just broadcast that the focus has moved to SM. That she made several calls from Sauvie Island, which do not correspond to her story. So.., if that is the case, what was she doing over there? Did they really pick something up with the infrared thing, or were they focusing there due to the pings? Has anyone noticed during any of the searches any activity that could correlate to finding the glasses, like a blockade from the media, tent sort of thing?
Well Fox News just reported the cell phone thing a few minutes ago; however, for some reason they referred to it being Kyron’s birth mother (Desiree), rather than the stepmother, who might’ve pinged on Sauvie Island. Now, I’m not sure if they just made a mistake, as all other stories of this sort have focused on the SM. However, the fact that a major news outlet was reporting this cell phone thing, is what caught my attention.
Not that large news organizations are infallible whatsoever… it just seems to maybe lend a bit of credence, rather than just rumors and reports from online sources.
“Let me be clear in my communication with all readers:
I will stake my professional reputation on the fact that this is a sexually motivated crime.
If we agree on that, how is one getting to the SM?
B”
Covering for someone? Involved as accomplice?
The uncle has been convicted of child molestation. I do not want to accuse the father of anything but it is not a far stretch that this type of thing is familial.
And sadly, it is not unheard of for a woman to be involved in sexual crimes.
Not unheard of, but rare.
Covering or accomplice not so much.
B
What was the point of SM going to Sauvie Island, and why didn’t she tell LE if she is totally innocent. I wonder if her husband knew she
went there. Why did she lie about going to the gym. Surely she was aware that Kyron’s bio mom would take him. Everything is strange about this investigation. WHOEVER did this, I pray for swift, speedy justice. The Casey Anthony case has become a joke, it’s all about delay, delay, delay.
Kyron, you stole my heart, precious child. What a great artist you are! Your tree frog poster was the BEST hands down. I pray that you are safe now, and free from harm. Your beautiful smile will light up
all of Heaven, and make the angels sing. Hadley
One thing I know, if a peson is innocent, they would be OUTRAGED to be accused of this crime.
Blink do you still feel the same today about it being a sexually motivated crime? And still not SM? Could SM have helped someone, like the uncle? I left a comment previously that for some reason did not post – suppose the SM, when in the hallway with K, told him to go out to the uncle’s truck and then she went out the other way so she was seen leaving alone? All of the other stuff – taking the photo that morning, leaving the backpack, posting on FB – almost seems staged and set up but I could of course be dead wrong. Any comment on why SM would not be forthcoming in the first place? Also I have never seen anything at all about whether the police asked/received lie detector tests to eliminate people…
Statistically speaking, in some form, yes I believe this is a sexually motivated crime, as do many colleagues I speak with, based on known information in this case.
It makes zero sense to me, to think a poi has the skillsets to plan a crime like this, with the full knowledge they would absolutely be a suspect, and then not hire an attorney, and let LE live with me 20/7. If this woman’s fave shows are CSI and Dexter, she has a minimum working knowledge of forensics and investigation. Kyron’s step dad is a detective.
To me, it is almost like they WANT someone to believe the heat is on her and not them.
If Terri Horman has not been told she is a possible suspect, then she will never be one, imo.
B
First, thanks Cheryl, I like your plan too, but the island must be in a large shark infested area.
Second, the way I see it we have three total options of what happened.
1: The SM is guilty, this I’m really doubting right now. Is this island inhabited? Maybe shes having an affair and meeting someone there. Just cause a cell phone has her there doesn’t mean she did anything. It’s easily explainable.
2: A pedophile snatched him, and he’s possibly somewhere around where they are looking. I know it’s grim and I pray that’s not the case, but it’s a reality.
3: A pedophile snatched him and we have another Shawn Hornbeck case on our hands. Personally, this is what I’m believing. What if the guy that says he saw a kid who looked like Kyron in that truck going down Highway 26 was a real sighting?
What I don’t understand is why that family and LE aren’t screaming to the media. If that latter is the case the national media can help one hell of a lot. Yet I see nothing. I have to read Portland papers to find out anything about this case. That part just doesn’t make sense, and they have lost much valuable time.
I thought the baby was home when Terri was at school with Kyron. Who was watching her?
Why didn’t the father stop in at the science fair? I was wondering because it seems like a topic (red tree frog)that would interest a father, too, and make him proud?
Did Kyron’s family have a guest staying with them at the time?
I have been wondering if Terri has any stalkers? That could be why they are protecting her.
Things that rattle around my head.
Son is finished school for the summer–let the good times commence!
I meant to add:
If the poi is after Terri in some way, it may be why she has looked guilty to some people. She may feel responsible, in some way, which she is not. I am not blaming the victim here, just stating a normal response.
Stalkers are freaky scary people and more attention should be made to prosecute these criminals. Terrorism does not have to come from another country.
I’m thinking more and more that Kyron either didn’t leave Skyline Elementary School alive – and/or he was placed in something and taken out sometime between the 8:45 a.m. start bell – and about 9:00 a.m. when the kids started heading back in to the science fair.
The early 8:00 a.m. ‘doors open’ for the school was unusual – it’s normally 8:35a.m. Probably meant that very few people were there that early. Who opened the doors early at 8:00 a.m.? Who was there?
All of the kids headed back to their classes at 8:45 to divide up into small groups in order to head back with a chaperone. This probably took at least 15-20 minutes to get organized. The science fair was most likely deserted or close to it.
Kyron’s friend said that Kyron headed back to the science fair instead of going into the classroom at 8:45 so he could have been there with a suspect alone between 8:45 and 9:00. The opportunity is there.
Did LE find Kyron’s glasses inside the school somewhere? A closet or a secluded area? I think those are Kyron’s real glasses – and I think a lense(s) were damaged (and removed by investigators for the photo) during his abduction.
Is there a duffel bag, a box or a suitcase missing from the school used to carry in someone’s science exhibit items?
Is Terri being used (with her consent) in order to lull the real POI into a false sense of security?
My instincts tell my that little Kyron didn’t leave his school alive. I know, I’ve suspected the SM off and on but as of this afternoon – I just no longer think she’s responsible for Kyron’s disappearance.
When she’s arrested tomorrow – you all can give me a noogie.
CovertCCW, I live near all of this and yes, the island is inhabited. It’s a rural area, usually very quiet pleasant community just outside Portland metro area. There are no sharks in the literal sense) there…unless the rivers have forcibly changed direction. Sauvie Island is a lovely litte island and a quiet community.
I agree with CCW and many others out there….I don’t understand why the family and LE has kept so quiet throughout this ordeal. I hope they have good reason and I hope they have not missed an opportunity to use the media to their advantage.
lily,
I watched the local news but missed the report of Kyron’s friend stating he went back to the science fair… was this on a news channel? Do you still have the link to that? Thanks
Also…and it may just be my computer screen…but I blew up multiple pics of the glasses in various directions and it looks like the lenses are there…either that or they’ve altered the photo’s to make the lines in the photo (area between frames and lenses) appear that there are indeed lenses. hmm.