Kyron Horman Missing: Watch Press Conference Live
Portland, OR– The last 24 hours of the case of missing 7 year old Portland child, Kyron Horman, has the community boiling over with speculation that Terri Horman, Kyron’s stepmother, is a suspect in his disappearance.
As reported exclusively on blinkoncrime.com, Kyron’s Uncle Kristian was incarcerated yesterday for child molestation charges.
This afternoon, Multnomah County Police released a flyer they have distributed to the parents and students of the Skyline School that seem to call into question whether Kyron and his stepmom Terri were even at the school on June 4, 2010.
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I read in the previously linked Oregonian “blended family” article that the 16 year old lived with his grandparents for a while, but now is living with his dad.
According to this, Terri was also adopted.
http://registry.adoption.com/records/34580.html
Kaine has an adoptive father, but not mother, as in his step dad, the author R.Niel Horman adopted him.
Just wanted to suggest something about the teenage son and why he might be living with his grandparents. I come from a family situation that was similar to Kyron’s. Mom married new man when I was 5 and had a baby with him when I was 8. That new husband had 2 children from a previous marriage who joined our family also. My BD had 2 children from a previous marriage and I visited him every 2 weeks (just like Kyron). I was the only child in either house without a “real sibling” and I went to live with my uncle at 15 because I felt unimportant and unloved living with my mom and her new family or my dad and his children. My stepfather was never once mean to me but he certainly didn’t care about me any more than he would any other non-related child on the planet. Maybe that is the case with Terri’s teenage son. Perhaps he just feels more loved in his grandparent’s home and in MO, there is nothing wrong with that.
To clarify, the Oregonian article indicated that the 16 year old is living with his biodad with whom he visited monthly previously, while $500/month child support is paid by his legal (adoptive) dad who hasn’t seen him in over 6 years.
Stories of R.Neil Horman
http://northwesttales.com/
Has it been verified that SM did indeed go to the gym?
Also, what about the teacher? Could she be in on it? I read that she
went to go look for Kyron when the sub noticed Kyron was missing. Why wasn’t she
concerned when she could not find him. Again, Kyron’s project was there
in his classroom, where was Kyron??? The teacher should have been very worried
and not stop looking until she found him and knew he was safe. I would just about kill
my son’s teacher if she just marked him absent when he had obviously been at school
that day. You don’t just let a student of yours disappear!!!!! Maybe someone she knows
is in on it. Maybe she and the step mom are in cohoots together. I question the teacher
even more than the step mom.
Anyone see this yet?
Snipped by me
http://www.portlandtribune.com/news/story_2nd.php?story_id=127687387448812800
Uncle in a Washington jail
Regarding Kyron’s uncle, Kristian Horman, Gates said detectives are “following up on that,” working with detectives in the Seattle area.
Kristian Scott Horman of Everett, Wash., (and brother of Kaine Horman, Kyron’s father) was convicted of child molestation charges (stemming from another child) Wednesday and booked into Snohomish County Jail with no bail.
According to the Snohomish County Sheriff’s Office, Kristian Horman was originally arrested in February 2009 for third-degree child molestation in the October 2008 case of his 15-year-old stepdaughter. He was released on parole and not in custody until being convicted and booked into jail June 16. He was sentenced to 180 days in jail. Third-degree child molestation is a Class C felony.
Rebecca Hover, a Snohomish County Sheriff’s Office spokeswoman, said she’s “not aware of any law enforcement agency that’s called our agency about Kyron or Kristian Horman.”
Swamped by calls of interest from the national media, she said, she has checked with her county’s major crimes and special investigations unit, and they had not been familiar with any connection to the Kyron Horman case.
According to Kristian Horman’s booking documents, he had no prior record of criminal charges other than failing to renew his vehicle registration. The molestation incident occured when “they were all in the same house, in the same bed,” said Hal Hupp, the prosecutor in the case. “He almost immediately admitted he’d done what he’d done.”
Lol, yes, I have, my lawyer sent it to me, these folks better get a source link to my piece pronto.
But seriously, I was aware that MCPD did not know about Kristian Horman, for reasons I will not go into, except to say I have very robust analytics on this site.
That concerns me, I admit.
B
Hover said Kristian Horman has declined to speak to the media, but refers calls to his Seattle attorney, Donna Johnston.
What happened to Kyrons left arm in the photo of him infront of the science project? It doesn’t seem to be there? Anyone notice that?
Regarding the conversation about Kyron’s mom telling the teacher so far in advance about a doctor’s appointment and having the teacher fill out forms: this is a common occurrence in a school when a child is believed to have ADHD, ADD, or other difficulties that require diagnosis from a psychiatrist or psychologist. The paperwork usually consists of checklists which the Dr. uses along with interviewing the child, to make a diagnosis. As a classroom teacher and behavioral specialist in an elementary school, I have filled out may of these, and they are usually given to the parent by the doctor well in advance of the appointment so the teacher will have time to fill them out and return them before the next appointment. It may be possible that there was suspected ADHD or something else of the nature.
If this is indeed the case, may children with ADHD can be impulsive, which might make it easier for them to make errors in judgement with regard to going with an adult. They are not always able to think things through before acting.
I’m with Blink on the 16 year old. Why would he not be living with his parents. Makes me wonder what kind of past problems he could have possibly had. And the silence from family…I’d be like the Harringtons. People would be seeing/hearing me everywhere whether they liked it or not. You look at the pictures of Kyron. He’s just cute as a speckled puppy. I just don’t understand how someone could bring harm (or worse) to such an innocent child. It’s just sickening. God bless everyone this weekend. My Dad passed away years ago. Although we will celebrate other fathers in our home tomorrow there’s still a BIG void. Happy Father’s Day to all of you. Embrace your little ones/and big ones.
Blink, I didn’t mean you my post above. So many people are so quick to accuse Terri without access to any facts, just their feelings. I believe we are in agreement on this point. Thanks.
Thanks for the clarification.
B
I was just browsing the internet and found that a Timothy D Moulton is on Community supervision in Lane County, Oregon. I have read nothing about Terri having a brother, anyone know anything about this Timothy?
Maybe Terri lied about where she was NOT because she’s involved, maybe she was meeting a lover at Sauvie’s. Maybe she doesn’t want to come clean on that for obvious reasons.
I am hoping Kyron will be home by Father’s day.
It is only natural that the focus be on the last person seen with a missing person. This is what I interpreted the press conference as… I think LE is working on clearing the last person seen with Kyron.
In the Casey Anthony Case the detective said they start out as detectives with the notion of innocence in their minds when dealing with family members ect. But as the investigation progresses, the scale moves from one side to the other depending on the evidence.
Right now we do not know which way the scale is moving. Or even if they have a scale at this point.
We do not know if any of the family members are acting strangely- We do not know what their normal demeanor may be.
For me, female body building is not “normal” but that is not to say that it isn’t normal for thousands of other woman KWIM
Like, those detectives, people work on a scale some start out uneven or biased, but others are fair. When given information the public then weighs the info and their scale moves. Hopefully, nomatter what their scales are reading right now, as more info is presented the scale is free to move in the opposite direction.
Right now all we can do is wait, and hope.
tracygirl says:
June 19, 2010 at 3:57 pm
What happened to Kyrons left arm in the photo of him infront of the science project? It doesn’t seem to be there? Anyone notice that?
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Yes I noticed that, I thought it was my eyes. I even went to look at other pics of Kyron before mentioning it here, as I did not want to be insensitive, if little Kyron only had one arm do to injury or a birth defect.
I just want him to be found.This poor little guy.I want to just give him a great big hug and tell him everyone is looking for him. It is such a sad thing.
I seem to recall Kyron being described as shy, sweet, and friendly. He was also described as intelligent and doing well in school. That doesn’t really jibe with ADD or ADHD type behaviors Generally children who suffer from those disorders struggle more in school and are not shy.
I have a hard time believing that LE sees the SM as a suspect because of the flyer they just put out. The poster is a visual and just the pictures gives the perception that the disappearance of kyron involves SM, Kyron and the truck.
Thinking long term..If she was arrested and went to trial, the defense and maybe the jury would see this as LE setting her up because they didn’t have any other suspects or leads.
If there was indeed paperwork regarding the appointment, it would be easy for the police and school officials to verify when the appointment was. It could have been a very unfortunate misunderstanding.
The latest story in Oregon Live regarding the family doesn’t really point to a totally narcissist person in my opinion. Desiree was Terri’s friend before she met Kaine, and she moved in with Kaine to take care of Kyron while Desiree got medical treatment in Canada. Would someone who was totally into themselves do that? Unless it was all a ruse to nab Kaine, I suppose.
Also, I know it is petty to point it out, but from the press conference it would appear Terri has a way to go before she’s going to be competing in any more body building competitions, KWIM? Again, it looks like her focus has been raising her family.
I would love to know who told Kyron about the “cool electric” science fair project. Was there even an electric project at the fair? Doesn’t that just sound like a line to lure a little boy astray?
Just some observations, I am keeping an open mind on this case.
Mom3.0–Good points re: LE & the family. I was reading about liars and microexpressions (yes, I really, really should be packing the kitchen) and it seems there are positive/neutral/negative emoters (excuse if I’m using the wrong technical terms). With some people, they emote so “truly” that we read them as positive/truthful immediately, likewise for the negatives (negative immediately). Neutrals are harder.
So then I saw Blink’s comment that she was rewatching the press conferences and I decided to do that with my newly found liar knowledge, and I can’t say who’s lying and who’s not, but I watched with the sound off and here’s what I observed (my opinion only, and it counts for nothing):
Kyron’s mom and step-dad have positive written all over them. Their expressions/responses/emotions are all very obvious, and you can watch as grief/pain/anguish/hope/grief/pain/anguish wash over them. To me, they seem very sincere. Then I watched Kyron’s father, Kaine, and he’s a neutral (my opinion) but as he spoke, there’s one spot where you can watch him flash that microsecond expression of true grief, and it looks very real to me. But I only saw it without sound and paying attention. Then Terri. Her expressions do not change like Desiree’s or Tony’s; she is far less expressive, and maybe that’s why some people come away with not believing her at all, thinking she’s faking. Maybe she’s just a neutral, doesn’t express/emote easily, and that’s being read by lots of people as a negative. I can’t say, but I thought it was an interesting exercise, and since Blink is so not convinced of Terri’s involvement, then I had to go back and analyze what I was seeing to see why I was feeling it, and this made sense to me. Now I really must go pack the kitchen.
oblio says:
June 19, 2010 at 5:25 pm
…”Desiree was Terri’s friend before she met Kaine, and she moved in with Kaine to take care of Kyron while Desiree got medical treatment in Canada. Would someone who was totally into themselves do that? Unless it was all a ruse to nab Kaine, I suppose…”
I am not saying that Terri did this at all, but I have seen this done, and would never have believed that someone could play someone else to this degree until I saw it done. So Terri, probably not, but a true narcissist/sociopath… uh-huh, yep, seriously can happen. Still blows me away.
Geez…Terri was Desiree’s friend before marrying her husband? news to me. First she lost her husband and then her son? I wonder what sort of medical treatment she was getting that she had to go to Canada for it? Anyone know?
curious…why would she leave her newborn to be raised by the woman (who was a friend) who stole your husband? seems very odd….
36.crimewriter says:
June 19, 2010 at 12:25 pm
CW, I’m learning as I go and the biggest lesson I haven’t mastered is….waiting it out before definitively striking my claim. After reading some other articles and comments, I realized this was a far more complex issue than meets the eye. Blinks comment about a possible affair could explain SM’s location issue. You have the guts to dig. I admire you because I am understanding your cause and your heart. xo
I left a post on the other thread for you….offering my apologies. With these social networks, it’s quite possible a profile isn’t what it seems. Your assessment may or may not have been off, but it was insightful….SCARY….but insightful to me. What if Kristian is using a variation of his name and a fake pic of himself, creating a fake profile for the sake of luring children? WHAT IF? His profile looks harmless enough. These sickos have got all kinds of tricks up their sleeves. All I know is that unless you know someone, you have no idea who you are dealing with when it comes to myspace, facebook, etc.
I don’t know if that makes sense or not. I’m somewhat emotional today, longing for my innocence, wanting to protect my son’s and angered that pedophiles, predators, molesters aka parasites can utilize the net to do more harm and damage. Bottom line…..you’re exposed to more freaks than you can possibly imagine.
Your the real deal in my books CW. Don’t listen to me…..I’m nonsense personified when it comes to such matters.
~love~
Bottom Line: The buck stops with Kyron’s teacher. He was HER responsibility that
day. I pray LE has interregated her! She needs a LDT. Also, a teacher does not have to
fill out paper work for a regular doctor’s appt. The doctor usually does to let the school
know the child was at the doctor After the appt. Like the other poster said, paper work is for
something special, like testing for a learning difference, etc… Has LE verified that Kyron had an appt. on June 11th? Question, the teacher fills out paperwork for a future appt. but NO paperwork for a missing child? That is what Kyron was on June 4th.-a missing child. The teacher HAD TO KNOW Kyron had been there that morning because his Science Project is on his desk!!!!!
My main question is: Why did a red flag NOT go off with Kyron’s teacher when he was not in HER classroom? That is the question that will answer what happened to Kyron.
LE could have been looking for Kyron at 9:05 if the teacher had done her job right.
Blink-
Why do you think this was a sexually motivated situation? I’m just curious if there’s anything that stands out and indicates that. If we eliminate bio and step parents, then does that statistically indicate that it is a sexually motivated crime? I’ve tried to find stats online or info but there’s so much wade through. TIA if you can answer this question.
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Fits with Aspergers…children with an ASD can have traits such as those above, even friendliness but they are very concentrated on certain subjects or objects. I thought it was interesting he had progression lenses, along with everything that has been said about him, I wondered. He could have been undergoing some kind of evaluation. I don’t know though as I don’t know the child, just saying.
We have no idea if Kyron had any form of autism, and also no evidence of that, I just want to keep conversation hypothetical, if in fact, it is.
B
OT but to our Hulagirl,
I’m sorry that you were let down within your family .I have a blended family 2 boys came into our home when they were wee little ones.I also had 2 boys the exact same ages as my step sons.We then had a daughter to add to the family.I won’t she-lack it..its work but sooo worth it.All of our kids are close and I so love my step sons.
Take the lessons learned from folks who made their mistakes for whatever reasons and do better than they did.Just wanted you to know I heard you and understand… def could be why the 16 yr. old is with Grandparents.God Bless You,Radiogirl
HULAGIRL – thanks for sharing your experience for insight on the teenage son’s situation – I feel for your situation growing up. Thank-god for loving grandparents, aunts and uncles! I too grew up feeling the ‘detached step-parent’ experience and it can be such a subtle void that is completely invisible to everyone on the outside. Not that I’m down on all step-parents, I just know the reality of two very different kinds. My first step-mom genuinely loved and cared for my sister and I, treating us no different than her own kids. She even fought long and hard for visitation rights after her and my Dad split up, still maintaining her connection with us to this day!
My ‘second’ step-mom on the other hand…. is even a well regarded elementary school teacher with a reputation for being great with kids….but that was not the reality for us. From the outside she did the duties to help ‘raise’ us: driving us to lessons or appointments, cooking meals, groceries….but that’s about it. She did what she had to do, but both my sister and I were very aware her heart wasn’t in to it – to the point of being resentful if we in any way interfered with her day. no guidance or heart to hearts for two adolescent girls – just judgmental looks up and down instead of input on what to wear, or cold silences instead of comfort when having a bad day or a reason to cry. the whole house was transformed into a place for her family and her and my dad’s life. she’d light up into a whole other person when her side of the family was around and immediately got rid of all our childhood keepsakes the minute my sister and i moved out! (that one i’m still seething about to this day.) not a sob story here, cause we also had beyond amazing grandparents and relatives there for us throughout.
my point – relates to all the underlying dynamics of families that those of us on the outside simply can’t know unless they are personally made aware. people would of never had a clue about our house with my stepmom’s ‘reputation’ and us fitting the model of ‘good kids’. when people immediately give step mom Terri good faith because she was there to raise Kyron from the infant stage – it doesn’t really tell us the reality of their situation either way. maybe she’s gotten to love the child as her own or maybe after seven years of her ‘duty’ she felt there was no end. if she was there for the marriage then her solution wouldn’t be simply a divorce.
when people immediately place their suspicions on her its not some unfair bias against stepmoms – its the fact she was the last person with the child and without much other information, the whole scenario just seems weird. the same two factors that started fingers pointing at Misty Croslin, yet it was never deemed ‘unfair’ when everyone did that.
“That same year, she was snagged on Interstate 5 in Marion County for drunken driving. James, who was 11, was in the car. With a blood-alcohol level of 0.15 percent, she was charged with DUII and reckless child endangerment. Terri pleaded guilty and took a diversion course.”
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/kyron_hormans_blended_family_f.html
I know everyone makes mistakes(her DUI), but the 11 year old had a 0.15 alcohol level, thats like 3 drinks, in one hour! – I mean whats that about? I never thought the SM had anything to do with this, but this is very disturbing, does anyone know if this is true??
Hulagirl, they were friends first, and kaine and Desiree were already divorced, if I understand correctly. It was more a case of Terri taking desirees cast off than stealing a husband.
Reg: Biomother treatment & Canada
Whatever happened 7 years ago in Desiree’s life, sound like really %$@#!situation…I think no mother would leave a baby to his father if she wasnt forced to due to some serious medical condition…After reading about her all friendship with Terri, this women was hit pretty hard back then.. I hope she got a chance to heal and recover from whatever the issue was !
The last presser when both couples showed up together,I had this feeling that Desiree’s husband intentionally stepped in between her and Terri …Otherwise Terry was so touchy -feely infront of the cameras…It is obvious that Desiree doesnt respond and just her good manners stop her from pulling away from the step mom…
Now, after OBLIO’s comments upthread , things are making sense
V
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/kyron_hormans_blended_family_f.html
article about relationships of Kyron’s 2 families.
Hulagirl: Stepmother did not “steal” husband. Please read article.
@ mom3.0 .. I was reading your comments about Kyron’s arm & looked at his pic in this article & he appears to be o.k. to me..
http://www.kptv.com/news/23953863/detail.html
Responce to #29;
Read the quote from the article this way;
“James, who was 11, was in the car.
With a blood alcohol level of .015, she was charged…”
In other words, she had the alcohol and James was endangered by being in the car.
Not so creepy this way.
Blink,
You do not have to post this..My questions.. My earlier post is in same vain. Trying to explain.
Post whichever one is more clear.
Either the teacher is lying or SM. Why was the teacher not concerned when Kyron was
not in her classroom? Either she is lying or the SM. Kyron had an appt. on the 11th
or not. The SM had given the teacher paperwork to fill out or not.
It seems easy to me. The only possible reason the teacher was not concerned was because the SM told her That day, the 4th ,that she was taking Kyron with her. I can not think of any other reason the teacher
was not concerned about her student. Either the SM told teacher she was taking Kyron or
the teacher is lying. I do not buy there was a misunderstanding between that same day
and the 11th. If SM told teacher she was taking Kyron I understand teacher not being concerned
about Kyron. That is the only reason the teacher would have for not being concerned about her student.
Daisy, Terri had a BAC of .15, not her son.
I still believe kyrons best friends story, and I don’t think Terri was last to see kyron. They are discounting his story for some reason…
mamabear -
so the DUI arrest in 2005 was adjudicated 12-13-2005 in Kitsap County Superior Court, Case Number: 05-2-02924-4, & she went by her first husband’s last name, as Terri Tarver – Wow. Not good, for a schoolteacher’s career.
http://dw.courts.wa.gov/index.cfm?fa=home.namelist
Or,
http://dw.courts.wa.gov/index.cfm?fa=home.namesearch&terms=accept&flashform=0)Tarver, Terri=Defendant
Ah, yeah ok… thanks for clearing that up! I still then think she has nothing to do with this.
A couple of things to comment on. First Daisy, I dont believe that article states the 11yo had an alcohol content, just that he was in the car, causing the reckless endangerment charge.
About CW’s posting of ? Kristian Hormon’s fb page, I think the guy looks like Kaine. Kristian may have been very heavy in the photo Blink placed on her thread. I cannot say anything to the other factors, but by appearances, I think it is viable.
Regarding SM’s role of taking over the child care for Desiree. I think it would be telling to know if she herself asked Terri to jump in and take over or if Kaine or she herself suggested it. D may have been too ill to object. But eitherway, I personally feel helping and supporting in a time of need is one thing. Turning around and marrying my ex a whole other. Their relationship likely deteriorated at some point. JMO.
It has crosssed my mind that maybe our 16yo had begun to feel rejected my momma. She appears to be somewhat fickel regarding the men in her life. ( no insults intended), and may not continue the devotion one becomes accustom to overtime.
There was somethng else that caught my attention about the 16yo, and I need to go back and look at a previous page. But I would bet there is some things to learn in that area.
Blink, do you suppose SM is being placed under the spotlight in order for her to talk about her knowledge of the perp? I mean versus her being the pedophile type, more of a cover to a possible new lover?
And what are the statistics of pedophylia running in families? I mean is it higher that his brother has been convicted as such?
Annals & others:
Mom3 is talking about the left arm in the pic linked below. Just commenting on the fact that he must have it tightly wrapped around his back in a sort of unusual way.
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/06/07/kyron-horman-missing-and-endangered-search-intensifies-for-missing-7-yeard-old-portland-boy/
Sorry nana2, NOT Annals!
boy I am getting old.
Angela_NW : reg the article
Desiree’s kidney failure is a big thing….$ 30 000 in medical bills back 2004 is even bigger thing when you dont have your husband support …Desiree got hit with pretty serious diagnose ,and, trust me, there is no easy diverse with a child involved …
Perhaps,I dont see how the article proves Terri didnt steal her husband. How many of my/your girfriends would move in with mine/yours husband while I/you am about to die in the hospital ?…
I hope Desiree is happy in her current marriage. About Terri – she has worked hard on her happiness for sure…Just speculations , indeed.
V
Can women get ‘roid rage?
In the picture, Kyron appears to have his arm behind his back, probably grabbing the other. My grandsons do that all the time when I take pictures,especially when they are nervous. Also, my son was ADD in school and was not failing and was shy. When he was tested his IQ was so high that his grades were not suffering like a typical child with ADD. Once, he was on medication he got straight A’s. You can’t always assume a child with ADD is failing, their are other factor’s to consider.
Blink,
This article states SM is taking her Second polygraph test today, Saturday 19th. Perhaps they detected something inconclusive or inconsistant with the first…
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/friend_says_terry_moulton_horm.html#incart_mce
Apparently her two ex-husbands speak very highly of her parenting skills and one states she’s not hard wired to harm or injure a child.
Let’s hope little Kyron didn’t happen upon a circumstance that proved injurious to his person because he witnessed it. I hope not, but one never knows. Please come home little Kyron. Your vanishing act has been more devastating to me than all others to date.
Yes, thank you nana2. It must be because of the way Kyron is standing that his arm seems strangely missing.
radiogirl and JR, thank you both for the kind words. My intent was only to offer a possibility for the teens current living situation and unknown family dynamics, although I realize there are other possibilities as well. Oblio and angela_nw, thank you for the clarification and the link. I feel for all that Desiree has had to go through…
Blink (or anyone else who may know) -
What are the stats on sexual depravity running in families?
According to the article, the Stepmom didn’t ‘steal’ her husband. However, the article did not quote ANYONE from the Stepdad, BioDad, or BioMom’s circle of friends and family. I take the article with a grain of salt.