New Clues In Kyron Horman Search: Fact or Fiction- You Decide
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Portland, OR-Over the last week, much information has been developed about the extended families of Kaine and Terri Horman, and the circumstances with which Kyron came to reside primarily with them, visiting Mom and step-dad Desiree and Tony Young on monthly visits.
One thing that is not clear however, is how Terri Moulton Horman’s oldest son, 16 year old James, came to live with his maternal grandparents after living with the Horman’s until this past January. He now lives with his biological father who gave up his rights to him to Terri’s second husband, who stills pays child his support.
He is believed to have been on a Boy Scout camping trip with his father Ron Tarver and his half-siblings the weekend Kyron went missing.
By all accounts, and certainly by all photos, James and Kyron were *tight* brothers from another mother.
Although it has not been confirmed by Multnomah County Police, it is believed that the focus on Sauvie Island, and the surrounding area is related to cell phone pings from Terri Harmon’s phone the day of Kyron’s disappearance on Friday June 4th. According to family friend, Terri was asked to take a second polygraph this past Saturday, and was frustrated and tired at investigator’s questions as “she was where she says she was.”
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Frequently, in our team’s development of information and analysis on the cases I feature, readers and listeners ask my opinion on several items of information that I may not be prepared to release out of context. In some cases, they are working theories. It is however, how we handle our “war room” and take raw data to reportable data. This case continues to baffle so many, I thought I would take this opportunity to show our readership how we work behind the scenes. Pardon grammar in advance, these are actual excerpts from our collective work stations.
For obvious reasons, this is the collective work of the editors of blinkoncrime.com; the “raw” we discount or scrap is not included.
Priority Lead #1
Tanner Pumala, 8 year old desk-mate of Kyron Horman, was the last person to see BOTH Kyron and Terri Moulton. He is his self-professed best friend, and also his neighbor. His grandmother, Wendy Fuhrer, allowed him to speak to the press, although she was specifically asked not to. As he is a minor, it would require a signed release from his parent or guardian.
Finding of Facts:
No mention of his Mother, Lisa Fuhrer Pumala
Tanner’s account states that the substitute noticed Kyron was missing from the headcount. He said she alerted the regular teacher, Ms. Porter, who told her he was probably in the bathroom.
Subissue for Flagging:
There was NO substitute that day. She had been there Monday through Thursday. Why would he offer that specific account, and simultaneously say that Kyron told him he was headed upstairs to the “cool electic one”? As his deskmate, wouldn’t he interject that information?
He was interviewed by BOTH the FBI and MCSO, and asked not to release his information, but did anyway. Who or what really prompted this?
He remarks he did not see him on the bus, so the day goes by, including the talent show, with no further discussion of Kyron although he would not have been in the bathroom for several hours.
However, he states he was not aware Kyron was missing until that evening, when his DAD saw it on the news.
(Jason Mateos Notes: Could the duo simply have wandered outside together at the prospect of catching a live frog for the exhibit and accidentally fall in the pond and the child is scared.
Blink Response: Plausible only if Tanner unaccounted for, the pond is across the street, and they literally would have to go out of the parking lot, which was heavily occupied at the time. Project next to his is Pond Turtle, however.
The Fuhrer residence, on the market since April 2010, borders the Horman property, and extensive search efforts covered this property. Their is a white truck and camper located at the residence in the photos of the listing.
Brian Pumala, Tanner’s father is a plumber and recent electritian apprentice through JATC. He resides with one Ann Pumala on NW Mill in a houseboat on the channel. Quarry Rd, is directly behind his residence as well as the Quarry that was searched initially.
Finding of Fact:
From Blink notes: Pumala address is on Sauvie. In particular it is the start of the original start area for which MCSO requests video footage, and it has direct access to the channel, which has been a heavy search point.
Additionally folks– we have the investigative equivalent of “the closest distance between 2 points” here. Gram or “mom” Pumala is neighbor to Ky.
Non-custodial Dad, a former neighbor and presumed aquaintance, lives withing the perimeter of the focus of most of the search efforts, AND the alleged cell pings.
Priority Lead #2
Kaine Horman Email:
From: Horman, Kaine A
Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 8:39 AM
Subject: FW: Kaine Horman’s son is missing
All,
If you have seen local Oregon news or been browsing the internet or FaceBook there is a good chance you have seen an article similar to the one that Becky forwarded (below). While this note is difficult for me to write in this state of mind I felt it necessary for Kyron’s sake.
Optional actions for you:
The Intel network is large and wide-reaching. Many have asked me what they can do to help us and my answer is the following:
1. Forward Kyron’s information to as many people as you feel comfortable with; the more people that see this will increase our chances of finding him
2. Do not speak to any media if contacted; I am trying to contact Intel legal to give them the heads up and help with this situation
Physical description at the time of his disappearance (picture is show in Becky’s note and here):
He is 3 foot 8 and 50 pounds, with blue eyes and brown hair. He was wearing black cargo pants, white socks, worn black Sketcher tennis shoes with orange trim and dark-colored t-shirt with the “CSI” show logo
Police Hot Line Number:
(503) 261-2847
Some rough background:
The article that Becky forwarded is pretty accurate with details. He was dropped off at school about 8:45 and went missing sometime between then and 9 or 9:30am. We did not know he was not at school until we went to get him off of the bus at 3:30 and he was nowhere to be found. The bus driver immediately called the school which responded that his teacher had not seen him all day in class, at which point we notified police in partnership with the school. It is still unknown whether he left school grounds on his own or was abducted. Be assured that there are currently an amazing number of agencies and amount of person-power being applied to the search and investigation.
Thank you all for the thoughts and prayers for Kyron’s safe return. I will update the group once status changes which will hopefully be soon. At the time of this note Kyron has now been missing for ~48 hours; time is of the essence.
Kaine Horman
Enterprise Business Architect
Intel Corporation
JM session notes: Bolded by Me. Dad states he went to the bus stop with Terri. Indicates both vehicles were at the residence, and in working order. What prompted his schedule to be home at that hour, would it be normal? Why is this the only account that features the Dad at the bus stop.
“in partnership” is odd wording. What does that mean exactly?
Priority Lead #3
Terri Horman call to school: When do the exhibits need to be picked up?
Blink notes: exculpatory. If your counting on a timeline that gives you until approximately 3:30PM, why would you risk the potential to raise the flag of Kyron’s absence. He was in fact, marked absent, although his things remained on his desk. SM calls and askes when the exhibits needed to be removed. In my mind, it is to see if she needed to also pick Kyron up that day, as he could not manage it himself on the bus.
Priority Lead #4
The questionaire released by MCSO and the FBI 
blinkoncrime.com editor JM, an experienced investigator and polygrapher, believes strongly there would have had to have been a deceptive response to necessitate a second poly. Blink notes: I believe strongly this is designed to progress leads in this case. My opinion as to “why” may be very unique. It is almost as if they want someone to believe she is a suspect, stopping short of naming her. Could they be hoping for someone to make contact with her. Admittedly, agreed on the deceptive response, but could she have exposed a bad guy to Kyron through her behavior or actions, but had nothing to do with his disappearance? Those images are FBI generated from an analysis they preformed on her behavior, no doubt in my mind.
blinknotes: I believe it possible the questionaire was requested for multiple reasons. Again, I cannot wrap around her. Put plainly folks-her profile does not match up to execution or strategy as we know it. I also believe this is designed to produce 300 exemplars. With the DA present while parents were to drop off their completed questionaires, I again think aloud– is there a convened GJ at the moment, in this case?
Also, what about this– it lets them capture the make, model, and plates of cars coming to the school with completed forms. Does our guy show up at 9am or 6PM on Father’s Day with kid in car, borrowed from someone, or does he send it with another parent?
Actual excerpt in work session:
*warning graphic* professionals need to de-sensatize in order to analyze.
Research/Investigstive Professional: Something is bad wrong is going on inside the Horman home without a doubt. I tend to look at folks who will not talk. Terri is simply acting odd. She has odd expressions. I mean effin odd; a self-centered nutcase. Unequivocally, yes, but she has an extensive track record of caring for kids. I would def buy her having an affair. If this is her, what kind of lame ass plot is this, in the first place. You drug the kid, you take him out on your own damn property, or closest body of water, and call the cops the next morning with your back door open and his foot trail still fresh. Say he has a history of sleepwalking. In that neighborhood, the critters would have him by then ( sorry, I know). This woman spend significant time with the school and his class. She had the baby in there, multiple times, knows all the kids by name. This is where she is going to take every risk and chance to off the child she has cared for since birth with no conceivable motive– no history of mental illness, and a facebook of loving family photos, several of which taken by her of a beaming Kyron? Not feeling it.
That said, it is connected to her in some way. Scorned lover? Unrequited affection of someone at the school? Kyron was chosen because of her?
Priority Lead #5
Terri Horman follows cases like these:
Priority Lead #6
The baby Kiara, was not with Terri and Kyron that morning.
JM notes:
I don’t know where dad was.
I do not know what he drove.
I don’t know when he left.
I do not know when he came home.
I do not know for sure he was even at work but it would be easy enough to document with ID swipes, etc.
I do not know where the baby was.
I do not know who was watching the baby.
I do not know why dad decided to come home early to meet the bus (and even that is in question.)
Where was she and is this normal routine?
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Redrock says:
June 25, 2010 at 9:34 am
I feel they know who and when. They have not yet nailed down where, why and how.
agreed
B
If so, why do they have so much hope? I mean this in earnest. I am confused by their behavior and genuine seeming sense of hope that they will bring him hoe safe. Am I just being naive?
Listen carefully to their words. I would advise them the same way. They are not prepared for the alternative.
Mark my words, this comes down to someone with a lifestyle issue that caused this, and they never saw it coming. Secondly, I think information is being withheld from Desiree.
B
Blink, which of the 3 sentences in Eloise’s comment # 42 concerns you?
” Eloise says:
June 25, 2010 at 11:56 am
In the interview this am, did anyone pick up on Desiree correcting the comment that she knew Terri prior to Kyron’s birth? Also, Kaine seemed alot more reserved than in past press release and email had come across. I wonder why Terri wasn’t there as well?
http://www.koinlocal6.com/mostpopular/story/Sheriffs-Office-knows-mystery-man-in-photo/Dz4uMChK60KCWjy3W5FG4Q.cspx
Yep.
Concerns me.
B”
Which part concerns you B? Sorry, I didn’t follow that.
Eloise- why do you wonder why Terri wasn’t there? I didn’t see Kyron’s stepfather either. I think it was just a sit down with Kyrons parents. I have parents and I have stepparents, but when it comes to important things, my parents are at the forefront.
I was more caught by the way they both stiffened up and their voices sounded harsher (around minute 3) when Desiree was stressing that they are most concerned b/c they had talked about stranger danger, but had recently had a talk with him about following directions and listening to adults “in the school environment” That seemed to hit a cord….they also mentioned several times he was “dropped off at school” Stressing that he was at school, seen by many people, IMO sounded like they believe he was left at school, as in Terri left and Kyron was at school All of course JMO
Sorry B – just read your response to wordgirl (#41)…i see what you were saying concerns you. Everything in this case is so confusing and hard to follow, I missed that! Great point
I agree with so many of you today. Kaine’s defense of his wife should and would have been stronger if he truly believed she couldn’t be responsible. Terri has disappeared from the investigative aspects of this case because she is clearly a suspect. I whole heartedly agree with Blink that information is being withheld from Desiree and perhaps even Kaine. My heart breaks for Desiree. If it is proven that Terri harmed her chld, she’ll never get over having left him in the care of Kaine and Terri.
There is a concentrated effort to leave Terri out of the equation. I believe that is because there is some reason that they feel there is an outside chance that Kyron is alive, or at least it benefits them to let a perp think THEY think that. Ultimately, you all know my feelings on his little sweetie-boy’s status, sadly.
However, under that philosophy, if this is somehow connected to Terri, they would not want to give a possible kidnapper fodder to do something foolish.
That said, your all really critical thinkers- This is a waiting game.
B
WHY was step-brother James sent to live with Terri’s parents in Roseburg? I’ve narrowed it down to January of this year, as to WHEN he moved. In March, he moved in with his bio-dad and step-mom~The Tarver’s.
This really needs to be examined! Am working on some angles down here, as I live in Roseburg, not far from The Tarver Family. Blink, I sent my ‘theory’ your way several days ago and understand why you would choose to not post it. However, any personal feed back would be truly grateful. Also, if there’s anything you want me to check out~within legal limit, of course…just give me a holler. Will be out of town over the weekend, but taking the laptop.
Mark my words, this comes down to someone with a lifestyle issue that caused this, and they never saw it coming. Secondly, I think information is being withheld from Desiree.
B
And I’m guessing it’s neither Kaine nor Desiree with the issue. This poor little guy getting caught up in some adult world just breaks my heart. Listening to his mother talk about his fear of losing his glasses brought tears to my eyes. I share that fear and it’s very real, but I’m a big girl.
I REALLY feel for Desiree and hope she makes it through this in one piece. It sounds like she has already had her share of troubles.
You heard me say the day the pic of the glasses came out- I believed they were Kyron’s.
I said it again, when they showed him without the glasses.
It is my belief the glasses were received by someone in this family from whoever is responsible for what happened to him, and the entire questionaire is designed to produce exemplars to match a writing sample, as contained in my notes in the piece. This action, by someone thinking they are smarter than LE is what will ultimately catch them.
B
Sending love, frogs, and prayers to our dear little boy. Kyron, where ever you are, you are loved and your life is valued.
You’re killing me Blink!!! WHAT information is being withheld from Desiree? And why would this information NOT be withheld from others? A “lifestyle issue”….geez. Are you saying all that you can say?
Yes.
B
I apologize for my repeated posts today and the 20 questions…but my head is spinning!
I’m confused Blink…I thought you have always been of the opinion that Terri did not hurt Kyron, and now we believe she has retained council? And you think the step-father was giving her the cold shoulder b/c of something he knew that we don’t.
And you think information is being withheld from Desiree, but someone sent one of those parents his glasses and a note. And that Kyron is missing because of someones lifestyle choices. Why would they hold info from Desiree?
So are you thinking Terri is not actually responsible, but some lifestyle choices she made is? Because you also said “I will stake my professional reputation on the fact that this is a sexually motivated crime. If we agree on that, how is one getting to the SM?”, although that was very early in the case…do you still believe that or has your thought changed with new information? Do you believe Kyron is still alive?
I do not believe Terri harmed this child. I think a lifestyle choice on the behalf of her, or her and Kaine may be the connection to who did. I think she initially tried to withhold that info, and it bought her a second or 5th round with the po po. Option #2 is some sort of stalker she is unaware of , also though due to a lifestyle choice of some kind, and that is as specific as I will be on the issue.
As far as her retaining counsel, I would absolutely advise her to. Everyone gets so hung up on that issue as if to say that means a person is guilty. IT DOES NOT, necessarily. I can tell you in most cases, a good defense attorney is able to get through to people about what LE needs, and do so without implicating their client. Moreover, they actually aid in a successful and fair prosecution if necessary.
If she does know anything, a lawyer is the best chance of getting that info in the right hands, one must consider that.
B
Blink – IF YOU THINK INAPPROPRIATE PLEASE DELETE.
Do you think someone feels they’ve been betrayed by another someone in some way? Either an affair with someone at the school, etc. or a money/drug issue or a feud? Whoever this person is they would have to be familiar with or associated with the school in some way. Not someone who would seem out of place. Could Kyron’s glasses have simply showed up in the family’s mailbox? This person is under a tremendous amount of pressure and is in the middle of taking huge risks – maybe on the edge mentally right now. This has been a very insightful post with lots of thoughtful comments.
I think it is a possiblity until it can be ruled out. I think whatever the angle is that surrounds Terri right now, most knows what that is. What was more important to me was when Kaine said, something to the effect of .. We can put what happened to us back together after Kyron is found.
That spoke volumes to me.
B
“Was dropped off” in Kaine’s email is passive language. When the language is direct, it’s “we” did this or that. Never “my wife” or “Terri”. Seems to me he has been protecting her or diminishing her involvement from the start. Maybe he has diminished her involvement in Kyron’s life all along. The interview is a natural progression of that to me. Only birth parents get to talk. When my father-in-law was murdered, only the blood relatives’ gave input for the PA’s decisions, even though we were all affected. And, my mother-in-law didn’t want any of us talking to the media. So, we didn’t.
Or, because Terri is a primary witness, it would be more difficult for her, facing interviewers’ questions, to protect delicate information. Their purpose is to release info about Kyron’s personality and keep interest alive, not to help reporters figure out what happened. It has been exactly three weeks to the disappearance; dates matter to these folks. It’s almost like they are following a formula.
I am amazed that only a few people have come forward and none of them has said anything bad about Terri. Kaine’s comment that families have been visiting them and bringing their kids to just be with them makes me think that the people who know her don’t think she’s a monster.
“Lifestyle issue” brings to my mind substance abuse or sexual preference. Now my mind is going in a different direction.
Okay, I haven’t watched the interviews yet, but I just feel sick for Kyron. Poor little guy without his glasses. But maybe this means he is still alive? One can hope and pray that is the case. I’m just steeling myself for the interviews, because after reading this I have no doubt about the heartbreaking wretchedness of this. And the glasses…
And my guess on the lifestyle issue is sexual proclivity on the part of SM. Blink, you said you thought the crime was sexually motivated, and now you’re saying lifestyle choice, and put those two together, and something wicked this way comes.
Blink, you said: “You heard me say the day the pic of the glasses came out- I believed they were Kyron’s.
I said it again, when they showed him without the glasses.
It is my belief the glasses were received by someone in this family from whoever is responsible for what happened to him, and the entire questionaire is designed to produce exemplars to match a writing sample, as contained in my notes in the piece. This action, by someone thinking they are smarter than LE is what will ultimately catch them.”
At that time I took the glasses and blew them up on my mac. The white wording was all rubbed off on the stem, just the way mine are from wear and tear. I knew then that you were right and these were his, but was hoping against hope…
Of everything that I have seen to date in this case that has turned my blood cold. It was his little glasses sitting there. To me, which was confirmed today by his Mother, they were his lifeline.
I will never understand the evil that can befall a human being to harm a child. Never.
B
Blink,
Summarizing my interpretation of your responses (and my questions, although I don’t really expect answers):
* they know who took him and when, but not why or where
* the responsible party returned his glasses with a message to a family member (which family member?)
* LE was trying to match handwriting from the questionnaires (so they are looking at others connected with the school?)
* a “lifestyle” issue led to this, but they never saw it coming (I can think of so many possibilities here.)
* Desiree knows less than the rest (why not? how about her husband?)
Wicked indeed, Jackie.
When you make reference to “Lifestyle Issue” would you be referring to a possible lesbian relationship between SM and another female. Maybe the SM did have a very strong bond with Kyron, was breaking off affair and causing harm to Kyron was the ultimate payback for the breakup.
No, i was non-specific and will continue to be. I am not about to rumor monger, I feel “lifestyle issue” is how I wish to phrase it, let’s keep to general please.
B
I think it was about time we heard from
kaine
I am glad he finally talked to all the people
who care about his son
Blast!! This opens up so many more cans of worms to add to my theories. I have to start all over again (for about the 50th time). Could SM have been involved with someone who kidnapped Kyron for some sort of revenge? A scorned lover? An unpaid drug debt? Oh geez, child pornography? I would prefer to believe there’s still a chance he could be alive – children HAVE been kidnapped and held and later rescued. It COULD happen. And this case is SOOOOO weird that it’s hard to assign the “normal” patterns to it. It’s possible he’s okay still!! I think this explains the parents’ reserved behavior – they’re HOPING. Did any type of communication accompany the glasses? Perhaps a ransom note, or some taunting type of letter? Do we know?
Members of Club Sesso? Hmmmm?
In general, I think Desiree seems fragile. I can understand the idea that information would be withheld from her in order to protect her for as long as possible. I’m not even a parent, but I can imagine nothing worse than having to face the reality that someone harmed your child and you weren’t there to protect them. I detest all forms of violence but against an innocent child it really is too much to bear.
By now, LE has opened Pandora’s Box and they know much more than we do. I agree that Terri (and possible Kaine too) has a sort of double life…may be purely sexual or it may have emotional components too (Kaine strikes me as sort of removed) but whatever the case, it somehow caused this little guy harm. Was Terri framed? Or, was that just a byproduct of this whole tragedy?
Blink
thanks for all
lifestyles Who knows who hangs at a gym
or any place for that matter
somewhere I read they went to the gym as a family
is that right
Maybe worked as an escort. Client found out she was married and had kids, was jealous. Stalked her and found a perfect time to act.
Maybe he had been threatening this for awhile, hence why James was living w/ grandparents? Then moved to his Dad’s? Maybe she thought he wouldn’t go after Kyron because he technically wasn’t her son? I think the husband has known she worked, economy tough, extra money. Desiree does not know about this for obvious reasons.
Terri was called, told to meet perp, she went to Sauvie or somewhere around there. Perp showed her he had Kyron, told her what he wanted. She couldn’t provide it?
Sorry Blink, my mind is racing now. I”m going to do some digging…
Can someone clear up the point about the eye glasses? Were glasses found?
Blink – you said:
“What was more important to me was when Kaine said, something to the effect of .. We can put what happened to us back together after Kyron is found.”
When did Kaine say this? I watched a couple of the interviews this morning, but didn’t here one that said that.
Thanks!
I think the early show, but dont quote me, it was one of them.
B
B, do you guess that both Kaine and Terri participated in this potential “lifestyle choice” or just Terri? I know you wouldn’t suggest a theory that didn’t have something to back it, even if you cannot release it at this time. If T spent much time on the internet, there are certainly plenty of lifestyle choices available to fill the day and many creepy people just trolling such sites for an opportunity to harm.
I get what you are saying about the glasses possibly being Kyrons, but the thought of little Kyron out there in the world, still alive, not being able to see more than a couple feet in front of him is about more than I can stand to even think about. I cannot fathom how those who know him and care about him are even functioning. I think I’d have to remind my body to breathe at this point.
To Angie:
I am confused as to whether or not Kyron’s actual glasses have been found also.
So far the clippings/posts I’ve seen have indicated that the glasses being displayed in the photos are replicas of the ones he has. I haven’t been able to find anything so far that says the actual glasses have been found.
Angie–
Glasses were presented to the public as replicas of the pair Kyron was wearing. However, it was noted that the pair displayed in pics were not new but worn. As a result, several people concluded that the pair shown WERE indeed Kyron’s. Currently, we are considering the glasses not found but actually received by the family by the POI.
pamomma says:
June 25, 2010 at 1:39 pm
Eloise- why do you wonder why Terri wasn’t there? I didn’t see Kyron’s stepfather either. I think it was just a sit down with Kyrons parents. I have parents and I have stepparents, but when it comes to important things, my parents are at the forefront.
****
Well, being that Terri has been portrayed as the primary caregiver I didn’t really think she would need to be excluded just because she was a step-parent. I really felt it was due to her being a POI in some form or another.
The one thing that bothers me about Terri is, if she is helping LE and has been honest in what she knows, they should have a POI other than herself to question. I mean a child’s life is at stake, what more could you be waiting for? Now I suppose that could be going on, but if they swarmed a location, I would think media would have caught on. So it makes me wonder how forthcoming she has been? I guess you can speculate she had an unknown stalker, but with her odd behavior noted my many, I think she was more than informed. That and like Blink highlighted about Kaines response about fixing their issues after Kyron was home, makes me believe it does have something to do with his family.
AC says:
June 25, 2010 at 3:33 pm
Members of Club Sesso? Hmmmm?
******
Oh my, that is exactly what I was thinking, Where did you find that they are members?
Could someone have actually seen Terri speeding around SI. Did she come home and find Kyron’s glasses somewhere and knew who to look for?
Eloise: didn’t find it, just questioning whether they may have been.
Swingers scene is pretty big from what I’ve heard.
Without speculating further on the “lifestyle issue” at the root of this, Blink, is anyone else in the family in danger? Terri herself? The baby?
no
B
Ditto to Eloise and AC.
One more question, Blink. Sorry if it’s been asked and answered.
Do you think Terri has an idea who has Kyron? I mean do you think she knows (not knows as in is familiar with but knows as in has knowledge) who has him?
I think she knows who Kyron left with.
B
what is Members of Club Sesso???
I think they know exactly who Kyron is with. I also think it is someone very, very close within the family and/or extended family. I also think it could be a minor or a minor involved and as such it is illegal for authorities as well as the press to publicize their identity. I am hopeful it’s related to a personal family matter that can be resolved as soon as Kyron is willing to come home and be sure the person he is with won’t get into trouble.
Have been lurking for three weeks and this is my first post.
To me the most telling information that came from NBC’s “Today” interview was when DY said, “We never thought we would get to three weeks out and not have Kyron here. Honestly I’m a little scared at this point,” she said. “Three weeks is a long time, and we need to bring him home.”
This tells me that they know the who, and the who is very close to the family; this is why I believe they posted the slide-show: to appeal to the emotion of this person–a person they do (did) not consider “dangerous” to Kyron.
Great work, Blink; you are amazing!
This reminds me of Danielle van Dam from SoCal a few years ago. The lifestyle of the parents didn’t cause their daughter to be murdered, but I’ve always believed it created opportunity for their daughter to be murdered. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t blame them, but they were clearly preoccupied with their lifestyle to the point where Danielle was left vulnerable.
I really believe that’s what happened here — other choices made Kyron vulnerable, but neither Terri nor Kaine directly harmed him.
Agreed.
I want to know where the research staff verified that article who claimed that Desiree and Terri were friends, wth? Seems kind of a huge fact not to check..
B
AC- At first I was offended at the implication of your “Club Sesso” comment. As in, YKINMK/YKINOK.
But then I re-read Blink’s comment by Kaine, “We can put what happened to us back together after Kyron is found.”
*Disclaimer-I’m not judging any kind sexual activity…I figure as long as it’s safe, sane & consensual, rock on!*
Maybe they were swingers.
Maybe SM introduced Kaine to the lifestyle.
Maybe they played with other parents from the area.
Maybe one of Kaine’s partners imagined a relationship with him?
Maybe this partner planned to frame SM to get her out of the way in order to have Kaine all to herself/himself.
This would, at the very least, explain why only the bio parents were interviewed. A way of saying, “you took MY son, you’re hurting ME, not her!”
I know, pure conjecture!
Thank you TR and Beverly. I think that LE is keeping everything quiet until they have enough to make an arrest.
Does anyone know who the last adult was to see Terri and Kyron together and at what location and time?
I thought it was Gina Zimmerman (president of the PTA) at 8:15am, but now people are saying that can’t be verified.
Blink, do you think this lifestyle choice is connected to Sauvie through Rooster Rock or Collins Beach?
as soon I heard “lifestyle” I automatically assumed Swingers.
On-line gambling debt? Drug debt? Those are the types of things I could see as a cause of child kidnapping, esp. considering the fact (?) that the glasses were returned (is that a fact?) to the family. Scorned lover–just can’t see that causing all of this…but I guess you just never know.
Mind you, the keyword in my above post, is ASSUMED..can anyone confirm this?
Ok, now the plot thickens, if in fact they are swingers, maybe this is why Desiree had such a close relatioship with Terri at one point? ALL SPECULATION of course, and maybe this is why she was so comfortable with the fact of Terri moving in to help.
snippet from the fox interview: (kaine responding)
“yeah I saw him that morning before leaving for work”
“and uh, to the best of my knowledge he went in for uh, a science fair, to um, go over a project that he had put together on red eyed tree frogs and uh that was the last time that people saw him”
Why would Kaine say “to the best of my knowledge”. Doesn’t he believe Terri?
In another interview the reporter asked Kaine how Terri reacted when she was posted on the flier and he said something to the effect of I can’t speak to her reactions. Why not?
Can anyone be so kind as to post all video links from the junkett today please?
B
Maybe the reason Kyron’s glasses were removed from him is that the perp is holding him somewhere, is someone who intimately KNOWS how dependent he is on them, how near-sighted or whatever he might be, and thought that taking the glasses away from him would keep him from getting very far should he escape and try to run. Maybe the glasses were sent back to the family to make them THINK harm has come to him when it hasn’t. I’m thinking it’s someone into drugs that they owe money to maybe…