Kyron Horman Missing and Endangered: Kaine Horman Files For Restraining Order And Divorce From Terri Horman
Portland, OR– Kaine Horman, Father of Missing and Endangered Child Kyron Horman, has left his wife and step-mother to Kyron, Terri Horman.
Rumors swirled yesterday afternoon that Kaine was no longer living in the marital residence, but approached by the press in her yard, Terri Horman denied the accusation as reported by Fox TV. A few hours later, Terri was served with papers for a restraining order and dissolution of marriage.
“Everything’s good,” she said, giving a thumbs up. “We heard that rumor. It’s just a rumor that needs to be squelched. Everything’s fine.”
Kaine Horman is represented by Portland attorney Laura Rackner, who specializes in Family Law.
Sources inside the investigation speaking on the condition of anonymity, have confirmed to blinkoncrime.com that Kaine Horman is filing for divorce based on information provided to him by the Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office about events leading up to the disappearance of Kyron Horman.
Terri Horman has not been named a suspect in Kyron’s case, and as stated through a friend that arrived at her home around 8 PM last evening who also asked not to be identified, is not considered one by police or her family.
Kyron Horman, 7, disappeared from Skyline School on the morning of June 4, 2010.
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hmm
maybe he hinted of divorce before & perhaps she is a manipulative person who did something very extreme & this is her way trying to keeping husband by creating a crisis- just my opinion.
11.AC says:
June 29, 2010 at 3:23 pm
Actually Blink, I suggested long before you said “ligestyle” choice. Once you had, I then suggested swinging. But if you look at one ofmy first posts, I suggested the affair.
sigh.
B
wow can I see the raise of hands that thought IMMEDIATELY that step mom was having an affair? lol Mine is raised and swinging violently…sorry couldn’t resist.
I am TOTALLY taken aback about this one. I am soooo sorry I heard Cindy Anthonys first 911 call….it grabbed me and the pictures and video of Caylee Marie stold my heart and now I do not like that more and more children are getting murdered etc…. make it stop!
Oh and Blink I hope you are right about her talking, I would really like to hear what she has to say also. I just hope she is not mean about it…..
As for step parents there are good and bad. Obviously love does not depend on dna or people would not adopt.
This woman Terri is an enigma. She plays the part of a loving stepparent to Kyron yet I am not so sure that it wasn’t an act. I am really bothered by that picture of Kyron posted on Facebook with the tonka truck. I feel like she is making fun of him and lets the world know it. I believe her Facebook account was public at that time so anyone could see it. It is one thing to tease but that seemed mean spirited to me. The other thing, driving with her son in the car when she was drunk-not picture perfect mommy. For all we know,she could be an alcholic and I don’t know if any of you have ever had the misfortune of having an alcoholic in your life but they can be very sneaky and good at hiding their drinking-it is not always obvious that they are drunk. My point being, I bet that DUI caused some tension in the marriage-why wouldn’t it? Maybe she had to promise to stop drinking and maybe she did for awhile but started up again. Maybe Kyron saw it or found her stash. I know that is a lot of speculation but it is based on past behavior. If she was drinking again and Kaine knew maybe that was the deal breaker. I think it could be enough to convince a judge to grant a restraining order.
“Just an fyi, and it may mean nothing, but for Kaine’s income level, that house is quite small and in need of repair.
B”
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There could be a lot of explanations for that.
1. I heard that is a pretty expensive area to live; certainly as opposed to the house they were in before. And I recall, though I have no source, that SM was supposedly really happy about moving on up to a better, richer neighborhood. So maybe his compromise was ok, we’ll move into a better neighborhood, but we’re buying a normal house, not a McMansion.
2. His upbringing. His family may have struggled and they really instilled in him the value of a dollar and not to “waste” it on wants rather than needs. Or he may be the kind of guy who likes to fix stuff up. Maybe they bought it to “flip” for more money and then the real estate market hit bottom.
She seems like the more spendy one. He went out and bought her a brand new mustang shortly after they get together I think. Those are not overly extravagant, but certainly not cheap either. With options, you could be looking at about 35k. Meanwhile he drives a pickup; albeit a nice one. It’s also not cheap either. But that’s more likely to do with the terrain of the area they live in. SM seems like the one who is more materialistic with her flashy car and personalized plates.
3. We don’t know what kind of lifestyle they have outside of that. Of course he makes good money at Intel I’m sure, but they may have pre-existing debts that need to be paid (doesn’t she have a Master’s degree? and who knows what his educational costs have been). Maybe they take expensive vacations or have trendy/expensive clothing.
I feel like he’s kind of the low-key one and she’s the more money-focused. I base this on nothing more than my own opinion, which is admittedly based on little information. But it generally seems that in a relationship one is more frugal and the other somewhat wasteful.
Personal example. I have a friend who lost his job. He was given severance pay (year’s salary). He focused on paying down their debts and putting money away for savings and kid’s college fund; whereas she acted like it was found money, and decided that because they had this lump sum all at once, she wanted some fairly big ticket item. They could afford it right? At the time; however she was not thinking long-term as to hey, this money will have to pay living expenses until another job can be found; and hopefully one that pays at least as much as the lost one. She didn’t think about how long it would take to find a job, or the idea of having a safety net/nest egg.
Some people spend money like water. Possibly SM is one of them.
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“Bearly- respectfully, this piece is about Terri and Kaine, I felt the pic appropriate.”
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This statement makes me think there’s a message in this particular pic, but I can’t figure out what it is.
The fact that there is supposition that this is a sexually-motivated crime; the fact that they might have subpoenaed the children’s medical records; the fact that baby Kiara has an order of protection preventing SM from seeing her… well, that goes to a very bad place. And if that’s the case, I can’t see how that’s anyone but SM being guilty. Unless the implication is that SM was pimping out her children to someone. Ugh.
Someone mentioned the restraining order that Desiree the bio mom had against Kaine when she was pregnant with Kyron. It’s my understanding that that is STANDARD in Oregon in the situation of a divorce. To prevent EITHER parent from taking off with the child. So, I don’t think there is anything nefarious.
The order against SM is a different kind of RO. I don’t know the terminology but I have seen it explained elsewhere. And this kind of RO is not about custody or finances; it’s about a child being in specific physical danger.
For my two cents, I think SM did this. I don’t think she’s been an unwitting dupe who was taken advantage of. I can’t see long-term ongoing abuse that she would allow someone else to perpetrate, and that it hadn’t been found out about till now. I think Kaine believes SM killed Kyron and that’s why he is seeking divorce. And I think he believes that she should not be anywhere near their child, because she’s at the point where she has nothing left to lose, and what is to stop her from killing herself and taking the baby with her?
The fact that this particular RO mentions Firearms leads me to believe that she has attempted or threatened to harm herself and probably baby Kiara as well.
Just my opinion.
I have read through some comments and have not seen this particular scenario suggested yet. Apologies if I missed it.
Here goes – what if SM knew BEFORE Kyron vanished that Kaine was going to divorce her? So she tries to figure out a way to make Kaine need her again, some tragedy to bring them back together. This would mean premeditation and also that SM is indeed a very sick woman. I have been wondering from the beginning what made her do it now? She has been in this child’s life for 7 years, why now? It has always seemed to me that something big had to have happened to make her do such a thing.
I sincerely hope that I am way off here. I have never wanted SM to be the one – to me this means that little Kyron is already gone. I do not want to face that fact. Skyline Elem. is 8 miles from my home so this child has never been far from my thoughts. Still praying for Kyron’s safe return.
This site is amazing. Keep up the good work.
SO HELP ME IF I HAVE TO TURN THIS CAR AROUND – LOL!
Although, I have felt angry and convinced that Terri was guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt— I am now feeling EXTREMELY sorry for her.
I am just wondering (if it’s OK to speculate about this) more about TH’s older son…do we know for a fact when he left for his camping trip and where that was? Are these things not known/discussed openly b/c he is a minor?
I understand he moved out b/c of issues with KH. LE’s silence and TH’s odd behavior could perhaps be explained by a scenario involving this other child…? I read that KH requested law enforcement to search a horse pasture (?) early on; also in the divorce papers I think it stipulates that Kitty be the sole beneficiary of TH’s life insurance policy. Just made me wonder about it.
(Writing about this, I just recalled that my own stepbrother–as a teen–was removed from my house after slashing the walls with a knife…he also did some sex. abuse stuff to us younger kids. It was odd b/c he was normally friendly with us. Turned out he was being abused by his stepfather. None of this was ever reported to the police, which just reminds me that we really can know so much less than we think we know about others’ family lives.)
Here is the article that says Terri Horman may talk to the media:
http://www.koinlocal6.com/content/news/topstories/story/Terri-Horman-restricted-from-possessing-any/Dz4uMChK60KCWjy3W5FG4Q.cspx
Terri may talk to the media
PORTLAND, Ore. – Terri Moulton Horman was “blindsided” by the divorce papers, according to a close friend.
A friend of Terri who wished to remain anonymous, told KOIN Local 6 Kyron Horman’s step-mother was caught off guard when she was served divorce papers as well as a restraining order from her husband and Kyron’s father, Kaine Horman.
“Terri didn’t know she was going to be hit with divorce papers or a restraining order,” the friend said.
The friend said Terri may consider talking publicly and airing her side of the story.
“She’s been doing what Kaine said all along and he’s been telling her to stay quiet. The public will benefit from hearing what she has to say.”
Thanks AllyL and welcome! You point out a good option.
RE #44: SM has been looking for a job. It’s posted on her LinkedIn.com profile. I live in the same metro area as she. Oregon has one of the highest unemployment rates in the United States. There is a lot of competition for jobs that are available and especially ones that pay a good rate. Intel has laid off employees over the years and they have had some low times as well. Also, property taxes are very high in the area where that house is. It’s tough to find money to do repairs, maintenance and upgrades these days. Ask the out of work contractors.
“FLgirl:”
It was reported on Nancy Grace (for whatever that’s worth, because as another poster stated they were offering misinformation) that the RO was because TH had been threatening to harm either/and herself or another. And that Kaine was advised by LE to leave the home.
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However, in order for an RO to be granted there must be reasons that harm would to come to yourself or your children. There has be evidence of this (at least verbal accounts). And just thinking out-loud on this topic, with such a high profile case I certainly don’t think they would just grant an RO under the guise of a public witch hunt. They MUST have evidence on TH; LE and the county wouldn’t want to compromise the investigation in this way or sign up for a law suit. Don’t you think, Blink? They have been sooo careful. And as I said before this sends a severe message – to the public and TH. And perhaps that’s it. We assume this will lead to her arrest, maybe this is to put pressure on her, so she will come forward on her own. Either they are waiting on “something,” or they don’t have enough evidence and are waiting on her.
I guess I am getting antsy because from day one when I looked at her FB page my thoughts were that she was responsible, I just want her to come forward or an arrest to be made…understanding that my naivety assumes this will bring Kyron home. Man, when I got that call from PPS stating he didn’t get off the bus, my stomach dropped, I have never gotten one of those calls. I am just sickened that it has transpired into this! I thought he’d simply taken off with a friends family…so, so sad.
Rose says:
June 29, 2010 at 10:57 pm
“also in the divorce papers I think it stipulates that Kitty be the sole beneficiary of TH’s life insurance policy.”
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I may be wrong because I’m certainly no legal eagle, but I read it more as, that a stipulation of the divorce, SM must get A life insurance policy which makes Kiara the beneficiary. I don’t think it’s meant to exclude the other child; only that it may be something legal that is necessary for the parent to provide money to take care of her daughter in the event that she’s deceased. Just an example, and I am not saying this as fact; but say that SM is guilty and receives the death penalty, she won’t be able to work to provide for the care/future of her child, so her life insurance policy would do that. In reality, I have no idea whether an insurance policy would pay out in the case of an execution; it’s just a thought.
It doesn’t really bother me because, if the divorce goes thru and somehow SM is innocent, but Kaine retains custody, SM would be expected to pay some kind of child support. So, looking at it maybe as the life insurance policy provides the child support in the event that SM is put behind bars or worse?
The teen is likely not mentioned in this because Kaine is not his legal father/guardian. So I can’t imagine he would be able to file anything on behalf of a child who is not under his guardianship.
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Kathy says:
June 29, 2010 at 10:57 pm
“Terri didn’t know she was going to be hit with divorce papers or a restraining order,” the friend said.
The friend said Terri may consider talking publicly and airing her side of the story.
“She’s been doing what Kaine said all along and he’s been telling her to stay quiet. The public will benefit from hearing what she has to say.”
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I believe it has been said her that SM DID know about the divorce and the RO before it happened. And the fact that she is blaming Kaine for her inability to talk? Umm that was Law Enforcement. However with Kyron’s bio-parents going to the media, she certainly could have if she wanted to. My guess is, she was afraid to be interviewed, and/or was advised against it by family/friends/atty.
More lies from SM though it seems. Ugh.
minima says:
June 29, 2010 at 11:50 pm
“FLgirl:”
It was reported on Nancy Grace (for whatever that’s worth, because as another poster stated they were offering misinformation)
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There was a reporter repeating the “Desiree and Terri were good friends prior and Terri moved in as a favor to Desiree to help with Kyron”. Obviously the Nancy Grace show, and/or it’s guests have not thoroughly vetted some of the info put forth. That’s unfortunate, because Desiree herself denied being friends with SM, live on the air, just a couple days ago.
I think that was me.
I do agree though that they likely have something pretty solid and serious on SM in order to approve that RO. I was kinda thinking, Kaine informed SM, after the Friday morning interviews and whatever new info LE gave him/Desiree, that he leaving; and that SM threatened that she would harm herself and/or Kiara if he left her. And that is my personal belief as to how the RO came about.
I too have felt from day 1 that SM was the perpetrator. Aside from the circumstantial evidence and the major coincidences that would’ve had to all taken place on that one fateful day… something about her is just “off” and makes me feel extremely uneasy.
** I should say the threat to kill Kiara and/or herself is part of my belief as to the RO. I also do feel that LE has told Kaine something that has him pretty well convinced that SM is the one who harmed Kyron.
Recent article – http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/kyron_horman_stepmother.html
I seem to be beating the drums for Terri and I don’t know why. I kind of see her as getting a rotten deal from “the three”. So I am going to ask some questions.
If it was unusual for Kaine to be home what was HE doing that morning? Why did he go to the bus stop? Did he stop by the school unannounced to see the science project? Why was he at the bus stop if that was unusual for him?
Why did he get divorced once when his wife 8 months pregnant needed him the most and now file divorce papers when this wife needs him? Whats wrong with that man?
Actually I have spent the evening looking at some of the pictures of little Kyron and to tell you the truth he looked the happiest with the grandpa guy. He looked so happy.
I also noticed the picture of Terri in the hospital with James on her left, baby in her arm, Kyron on her right with Terri’s arm around him and Kaine on Kyrons left.
It’s really hard looking into somebodys life. We always expect the best and fear the worst.
“… heh Heh, I am putting you on the front page, (Puckerman), so pipe down in the back row already.~B”
Point taken, B. But don’t you mean: “Pipe down in the ‘backseat’ already?”
(Easier said than done when squished back hear with Ragdoll, Lovely, and Lovely’s, um, entourage. heh.)
I’ll reserve further (on-topic!) commentary for the new article.
Kudos on keeping the momentum going, B et al!
*clink*
*clunk* (reaching behind me into the back seat, with my non-adult big gulp cause I’m drivin’)
For those of you who are non-gleekers, “shut is Puckerman” is a line from glee.
B
I doubt she knew about the restraining order and divorce ahead of time. I just wonder how Kaine was able to move out on Saturday, two days before filing.
All of the events in the past two days have just reinforced my theory that Terri did it, and she did it alone.
Another thought. Terri’s parents are right there supporting her as is several of her friends. If she was such a bad person wouldn’t they have deserted her by now.
Another thought. Terri’s parents are right there supporting her as are several of her friends. If she was such a bad person wouldn’t they have deserted her by now.
FLgirl,
This is totally irrellivent to the case but just wanted to elaborate on your thoughts in reply to another poster…
1. I heard that is a pretty expensive area to live; certainly as opposed to the house they were in before. And I recall, though I have no source, that SM was supposedly really happy about moving on up to a better, richer neighborhood. So maybe his compromise was ok, we’ll move into a better neighborhood, but we’re buying a normal house, not a McMansion.
Just to elaborate on this for people who aren’t from the area….Portland IS EXPENSIVE to live in. The area the Hormans are/were in is not as expensive as the metro area. Portland OR has not seen the decline in housing prices the rest of the US has in recent years. The median home is still over $400k here and is typically on the market less than 6 months before selling. A typical 3 bd/2 ba 2500 sq ft home in the NW metro area where I am (just 1-2 miles east of where they lived) run roughly $650k to 1 mil depending on the street, view etc. I pay $20k a year in property taxes for a $500k home just to give people an idea. Also, state taxes are higher here than most other states…even people in the very lowest percentile are paying out about 30-35%% of there gross to taxes (fed and state) each year. If you make what Kaine is making (possible around $150) taxes are taking about 50% of his income. That (small-when compared to the rest of the country) home he bought was a responsible buy as far as I can tell..at least for Portland…
“FLgirl” and “Angie:”
We seem to be on the same page! I was thinking about it as I took a walk tonight, and I thought the whole scorned lover theory. No way, and not because of the divorce/RO, but I think due to the “new events” I no longer feel any need to counter any of my “she’s guilty” thoughts with other possiblities. Anyway, I was thinking, it’s seemingly too premeditated for a scorned lover. A person like this would fit more of a “crime of passion” senario. (I worked in the field of domestic violence for years). These crimes are out of rage, out of power and control, a person like this would want to have power and control Terri…seems more likely they would go after her directly, not her step-son. Taking Kyron is too indirect for this sort of person. So, I just can’t logically believe that a ‘scorned lover’ would be a vendetta-bent strategist, who would plan this “perfect crime” around a science fair where there’s more traffic that particular, around a school with so many witnesses, stumble upon a single moments opportunity, hoping/knowing he wouldn’t be caught red-handed and that Kyron would not be reported missing until after school.
No, this crime seems to center around a person that would be a familiar and trusted face around the school, someone who wouldn’t be noticed, someone who wouldn’t be MIA during the school day (like a faculty member…seems they would commit such a crime at the end of the day, not the start of one), someone who knows that parents are alerted at the end of the day, or not at all if a child is marked absent, someone who could confuse the teacher with an alleged doctors appointment (which I think didn’t exsist at all and one of the things leading LE to question Terri), someone who specifically wanted Kyron gone, someone who knows the ins and out of not only the school but Kyron’s day. Who could this be?
I don’t know if this is relevant, but I grew up with Kaine and his younger brother Kristian. Last week the Seattle news reported that Kristian had been arrested on child molestation charges (14 year old girl). Later in the article it came out that Kristian had been sexually abused growing up by grandpa. I don’t have the link but google Kristian Horman. I’m not suggesting that uncle had anything to do with this, but it does open the possibilty that Kaine may have some sexual abuse in his past. Fwiw I remember Kaine as an incredibly sweet, thoughtful guy that did not appear that he could harm a fly. And for the person asking about his childhood our neighborhood was sililar to what he lives in now- very modest lower to middle class. They didn’t have a lot of money growing up but seemed to be a good family. Great work and good job keeping the witch hunting to a minimum (unlike facebook)
Welcome and Thank you for your thoughts, wa kid.
B
Testing..
Check 1, 2
B
The home that Kaine and SM live in appears to have been built in 1933, purchased 01/11/07 & consideration sale value was $360,000.
Here’s the direct link:
http://www.multcoproptax.org/property.asp?PropertyID=R269575
The actual tax summary; total levied was $1,611.65, Ad Valorem total was $1,545.40
http://www.multcoproptax.org/prop2ctt.asp
PropertyID=R269575&DatePaid=06/30/2010
Here’s the direct link to the assessment history between 1995 and 2009:
http://www.multcoproptax.org/property3.asp?PropertyID=R269575
The 2010 Improvement Information on the home:
http://www.multcoproptax.org/property4.asp?PropertyID=R269575
Elizabeth says:
June 30, 2010 at 12:46 am
Another thought. Terri’s parents are right there supporting her as is several of her friends. If she was such a bad person wouldn’t they have deserted her by now.
Not necessarily. For one, IF Terri is a sociopath and IF the F&F haven’t seen that side of her, then they will not believe that it’s there, and even if they have seen a little “spell” now and again, F&F make lots of excuses for the person. Having witnessed this up close and personal, I can say that without a doubt. The sociopath I know is currently fooling a wife (she’s much older, plumper and richer), a community who believes that he is something he is not (professionally he has claimed certification and training that he does not have) and his own parents continue to bail him out of situation after situation EVEN THOUGH they warn others about getting involved with their son financially (and I mean serious financial situations that could’ve landed him in jail without their fixing the problem). I almost fell out of the car from shock when the mother warned me (not to worry–I haven’t fallen for his “financial plans” for us anyway). SO it’s hard to imagine, but people do stick by. Scott Peterson is getting marriage proposals, go figure.
CORRECTION: That should say “HADN’T”. I have NO contact with this person any longer.
So it should read:
(not to worry–I HADN’T fallen for his “financial plans” for us anyway).
sitting her drinkin my vino waiting for the arrest! I believe it will happen, thought I would come home this evening and see the nitty gritty, still hoping…JMO
When I looked at the pictures of James and his stepmother’s horse, I thought of how horses are used in therapy of troubled children. I’m happy James is getting that opportunity.
In the pictures, they are desensitizing the horse. This seemed to hit a chord with me, because everything I’ve heard and read about Kyron makes me think he was sensory defensive. My only authority in this issue comes from having sensory processing disorder myself, and having three children with some form of it. My son has been affected the most, and second grade was the most difficult year for him. It was the year that our school did a full evaluation and referred us to specialists.
Informative article on the subject: http://www.temple.edu/temple_times/9-23-04/senses.html
That being said, sensory defensiveness can be hereditary, and people who have it are often very intelligent. I have said that I thought Kaine is in denial, but maybe he has shut himself off emotionally as self-protection. The picture of him and Terri made me think he might be overcompensating. “See, I can touch my wife’s breast.” I can imagine the clash of such a reserved person with Terri’s vivaciousness.
opps here…hehehehe, Blink if this was not Step Mommy Dearest then who????? this is ugly beyond anything, I just want an end to this one quickly, my heart aches for bio Mommy….bleeds more like it
For anyone interested with the links provided (sorry they didn’t take you to the direct screens), sign as “GUEST LOGIN”. On the next screen type in 15725 NW Sheltered Nook *Do not type in rd. or the city or zip code etc. On the next screen after that just click on the property ID and you can surf through the icons to read the tax and structure information about KH’s home…
ok…since everyone else is posting stuff not relating to missing Kyron…here is a photo of SM in her 2005 bodybuilding day:
http://www.twixpix.com/emeraldcup/05/pics/twx_EC0510_03.html
A little more on Sensory Defensiveness: There is a book Too Loud, Too Bright, Too Fast, Too Tight on the subject. The title explains it all. However, Terri seemed to like loud, fast, bright – red mustang. Maybe it was a real fire/ice relationship.
Excuse me snapoutofit?
I think I need to take a break as we either have a lot of new posters on this thread or people are getting really snotty on this case?… lol
Goin to talk a walk and pray for this family…….
Many new posters, who are of course welcome, and learning the rules are different here.
I would ask patience, but I will also say I am going to be less gracious about it than I have in the past, there are not enough hours in the day, and WAAYYY to much traffic.
Peace My friends.
B
34.dee says:
June 30, 2010 at 1:20 pm
opps here…hehehehe, Blink if this was not Step Mommy Dearest then who????? this is ugly beyond anything, I just want an end to this one quickly, my heart aches for bio Mommy….bleeds more like it
Wow I am on the very opposite side. I have no sympathy for her at all. She was just every other weekend. Looks like a model in the pictures they displayed of her and Kyron and they were when he was small.
She left Kaine when she was 8 months pregnant and maybe sick with the kidney disease. Even got a restraining order against him. But she leaves her young son in his care? Has anybody been asking why Kyron doesn’t live with her and her detective husband?
Terri was allowed by all three of the others to do everything for little Kyron and now they have all thrown her under the bus.
Sorry but no arrests, not a suspect or person of interest coming from LE.
Me thinks they are looking at the wrong one. Please don’t let this be a case of tunnel vision with the killer long gone.
I just saw a piece on kptv.com put up last night about TH. It says that she doesn’t have the funds for a good lawyer because when KH filed for divorce, he cut off the funds.
Blink,
I apologize profusely. I just said above that I saw a piece on kptv.com posted last night on KH which says that when KH filed for divorce he cut off the funds so she isn’t able to retain a good lawyer. I said the wrong news station. So sorry. The correct link is http://www.katu.com/news/local/97449789.html
[WARNING: GLIB REMARK AHEAD]
julie –
(you remarked:) “I just saw a piece on kptv.com put up last night about TH. It says that she doesn’t have the funds for a good lawyer because when KH filed for divorce, he cut off the funds.”
Ya don’t say? Well, I don’t think we should be too concerned about Terri’s inability to afford legal representation, julie.
After all, is she cannot afford an attorney, one will be appointed to her…
If this woman does not have counsel, or secured counsel “in the process” I will lose all my faith in the land of opportunistic defense attorneys looking for the biggest case of their careers.
I say that respectfully, as some of my best friends are… (you know the drill)
And then, I will speculate that she has a level of culpability and has been advised by counsel to zip it, as they are looking to mount a mental defense.
Counsel will not be an issue in this case, and frankly, the tactic of allowing others to speak for her is a grave mistake.
B
Thanks Hulagirl for the info regarding Kaine’s home/neighborhood and the cost of real estate, etc. That’s what I figured.
And thanks to WaKid for the confirmation about Kaine’s childhood home; that pretty much reinforces my thoughts that he’s probably not an extravagant spender and found a home that was well-priced to his economic means.
Minima, I am right there with you. From the beginning, my suspicions have been focused on the SM. Like you, I have tried to work-out various scenarios as to who/how/why someone else could have done this. I think it’s because we don’t want to believe a mother could do this to her child; but unfortunately it happens everyday.
Looking at the disappearance, means and opportunity to do something in a public area with so slight a time frame; to me it would pretty much have to be her. My only sticking point was motive. The fact that we hadn’t really heard anything bad about SM, and that police seemed so adamant about saying she is not even a POI, was the only thing really holding me up. But, with the revelation of the divorce and RO; and the fact that the RO seems to suggest abuse and/or fear of abuse… well, I think we can see the partial suggestion of some kind of motive.
Granted we still don’t know the particulars. Could be previous abuse; could be evidence to suggest she was involved in Kyron’s disappearance, etc. But, it speaks volumes to me that Kaine would pick now, of all times, to file for a divorce and to seek protection and sole custody of baby Kiara.
Elizabeth says:
June 30, 2010 at 4:03 pm
34.dee says:
June 30, 2010 at 1:20 pm
opps here…hehehehe, Blink if this was not Step Mommy Dearest then who????? this is ugly beyond anything, I just want an end to this one quickly, my heart aches for bio Mommy….bleeds more like it
Wow I am on the very opposite side. I have no sympathy for her at all. She was just every other weekend. Looks like a model in the pictures they displayed of her and Kyron and they were when he was small.
She left Kaine when she was 8 months pregnant and maybe sick with the kidney disease. Even got a restraining order against him. But she leaves her young son in his care? Has anybody been asking why Kyron doesn’t live with her and her detective husband?
Terri was allowed by all three of the others to do everything for little Kyron and now they have all thrown her under the bus.
Sorry but no arrests, not a suspect or person of interest coming from LE.
Me thinks they are looking at the wrong one. Please don’t let this be a case of tunnel vision with the killer long gone.
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Respectfully disagree. For one thing, I have read it is Oregon state law that a RO be put in place with regards to BOTH parties in the midst of a divorce. It’s to keep either parent from absconding with the child/children. This RO that Kaine got is COMPLETELY different. It specifically refers to Physical danger to the child involved.
As far as Desiree goes, we have no idea how much of a hands-on mother she has been. For one thing she willingly gave custody to Kaine when she was having serious medical issues. That says to me that she didn’t find him a harm to her or their child.
Secondly, we don’t know how long she was sick, or if she still is. We DO know that she came back from her initial treatments with 30,000 dollars in medical bills and had to stay with her parents. So, why would she opt to take Kyron out of a financially stable home until she was able to get back on her feet?
Thirdly, perhaps, as a loving mother, she was/is thinking of what was best for KYRON, not for herself. Maybe she would’ve liked to have gotten him back permanently, but maybe she decided she didn’t want to yank him from the place that had been his home; that she didn’t want to take him away from his school, his friends, etc.
I don’t like the implication that Desiree is some kinda deadbeat mom who dumped her kid on her ex and didn’t care about him. I think that’s obviously untrue. I believe she saw him in a good, stable home and thought that was what was best for him. And as for only seeing him monthly? Well, the families live a 4-hour drive apart, which means that every time they went to exchange Kyron, it was an 8-hour drive for both parties. Maybe that was tough on BOTH families.
Aside from that, we have NO idea how much time he has spent with Desiree on breaks from school, during holidays, over the summer, etc. So, I think it’s patently unfair to assume Desiree was neglectful of Kyron.
I don’t see that at all; and apparently neither did/does Kaine. Desiree is not the one he’s filed a RO against.
Forgot to mention. As far as I’m concerned, we’ve seen no evidence that Desiree has been deceitful whatsoever, especially with regards to her relationship with Kaine, Kyron or SM.
However, we DO know that SM, or at least someone speaking on her supposed behalf, lied and told the public that Desiree and SM good friends from before, and that SM moved in with Kaine to help take care of Kyron at Desiree’s request. Desiree has absolutely refuted this live on the air, with Kaine by her side. I know who I’m going to believe in that case.
just saw on google…. 2 satellite tv trucks in hillsboro getting ready waiting for arrest.. anyone have any additional info? or can anyone authenticate this?
Since I am sure some friends of Terri read here. I suggest, give Harry Oakes an article of Kyrons so he may find Kyron please. I can fathom no way that this can harm the investigation. Mr. Oakes dogs may simply be superior to other SAR dogs. There are superior warriors and superior intellects that come around once in a blue moon. How could we argue that there are not superior dogs? It is worth it!!!!!
I care little that he does not play politics. There is no place for such in a case of a missing child. I believe Mr. Oakes cannot harm the investigation other than egos.
margaret lee?
is the news in the area covering it? are you a local?
I feel Kyron’s body was found between June 11-15 when authorities called off search and divers left Sauvie Island coupled with June KOIN T V erroneously releasing on the Internet the afternoon on June 17th that Kyron’s body was found that day and then quickly retracted. I feel that as soon as Terri Horman is arrested, it will be released that Kyron’s body had been found. Poor little boy. I am so very sorry for him and Desiree, Tony, & Kaine. I am in Portland… I will let you know news in a minute
2nd top story on our local news in Portland tonight (1st is Al Gore 2006 “scandal”) is that Terri has hired a :well known criminal attorney” named Steven Houze, who arrived at her property at 6:30pm.
“Terri Moulton Horman has retained prominent Portland criminal defense attorney Stephen Houze as investigators continue to focus on her in the nearly monthlong disappearance of her stepson, Kyron.”
“slipped past the crowd of television and print reporters at the foot of the driveway Wednesday. She returned home around 5:30 p.m. in a silver Volvo sedan with Houze, who got out to open a gate across the gravel road which had been closed for the first time.
Houze declined to answer questions, saying only that the drive was “private property.” Houze left about an hour later.”
That was basically all the news said about the Horman story tonight at 10pm.
Here is link with a pic
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/terri_moulton_horman_retains_p.html