Kyron Horman Missing and Endangered Sources: Terri Horman Arrest Is Imminent
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Portland, OR– Late this evening, blinkoncrime.com has learned from a source close to Terri Horman that she expects to be arrested at anytime on possible charges related to endangering the welfare of a child.
It is not known if those charges are related to the disappearance of her 7 year old step-son Kyron Horman, or her daughter, Kiara Horman, 18 months.
Following the filing of the and restraining order by Kaine Horman, Terri’s estranged husband and Kyron and Kiara’s Father, the restraining order was subsequently sealed by the court on Monday.
However, under Oregon law, for primary custody to be awarded without mutual agreement in this phase, an emergency ex-parte order must be filed. That requires a fairly heavy burden in the immediate threat area.
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J2K
This is all adding up to a very sad conclusion for me, folks.
First, we’ve got The Family Statement (minus Terri) released Monday:
“We have been fully briefed by law enforcement on the on-going criminal investigation.
We are in complete support of that investigation. We have asked the Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office to facilitate releasing this statement for us due to their access to the media/flash news.
We understand that we have free access to the media but are limiting statements to the media to keep the integrity of the investigation intact.
Any actions taken by the investigation, or by us, are based on the best interests of Kyron and Kiara and comply with the law. Beyond this, we have no comment on the matter.”
Got to say… I’ve had a baaaaad feeling ever since the term “criminal investigation” was used following the initial groundswell of search efforts. To me, that says, while short a body, it has been determined a crime was committed and, as such, resources were shifted from recovery/rescue to collecting evidence for beyond-a-reasonable-doubt identification of the suspected offender and his/her eventual prosecution/conviction for the crime.
In other (read: fewer) words, the emphasis is on criminal responsibility now. That likely means there is reason to believe Kyron is no longer expected to be found alive, and it’s time to enforce the law against the person(s) responsible for his death – even if, in Terri’s case, she only suspected of being guilty of endangering his welfare. (Though, as opposed to many astute thinkers here, I believe she – and she alone – is directly behind his death.)
As far as the seemingly dragged-out nature of the case, there is, of course, something to be said for the old trope: A watched pot never boils.
But, more to the reality of the situation, detectives assigned to this investigation have to abide by the consitutionally guaranteed rights of the accused throughout its course – that’s why we have not seen an arrest yet, imo. I think (as B has noted repeatedly) they are building a case here that can be prosecuted based on someone’s *intent* to do harm. (And the specific question in this instance is: Who had the means, will and way to intentionally harm little Kyron?)
I also agree with B and other posters on this thread that the procedurals in the case – and its seeming veil of secrecy – totally reflect the Susan Smith situation: i.e., *dual* investigations, with one out in the open and the other hush-hush until the “shocking” arrest was made.
To wit, there was the “public” investigation in the wake of a desperate, sobbing mother’s police report and pleading press conference – here, LE searched for Smith’s allegedly “carjacked” young boys and the alleged kidnapper; the other was “secret,” wherein Smith herself was the focus. While these separate probes were being conducted, LE couldn’t be truly certain which one would be successful, but ultimately they were able to get a confession out of Smith by confronting her with the evidence uncovered during their under-the-radar investigation.
I’s with B – I think we’re about to see that happen here.
This was further underscored on June 26 by Kaine getting Kiara, a powerhouse family attorney, and the F outta Dodge. The fact that he was able to successfully obtain emergency legal custody (without Terri present at the hearing) through Oregon’s FAPA law shows he was able to show the judge that Terri’s ability to access him and Kiara put his child in immediate physical danger.
DC08
5 years ago I took care of Kyron at a daycare (he was ages 2-3).
I saw his step-mom and talked with her at each drop off. She was very kind, very motherly.
For the past few weeks I kept thinking…they look really familiar, then I realized I knew her during her body building time. She was dedicated to that new hobby and seemed to enjoy it.
Her older son was very well behaved, and was loved by Kyron-I don’t recall feeling any concern at all. He helped read to Kyron on the rough drop off days. Not one thing in my mind raises a red flag about her behavior then to what is going on now.
But, that is what’s scary- it’s usually someone you just would never have suspected. It’s heart breaking to think about.
As for the dad’s job, my husband works at Intel and it’s a job where you might have manditory meetings all morning but can work from home as well. Depends on exactly what he did. Most engineers are flexible and Intel wants to enable you to work from home if you cannot come into the office for whatever reason. His being home at ‘odd’ times to everyone else could have just been a thing that even our family is used to.
No speculation there. It’s interesting reading everyone’s comments. I’m more of ‘innocent until proven guilty’ not visa versa, but this case is so strange that that’s hard to apply- even having once known this family.
Skyline Parent– Email From Today
Dear Parent of Skyline School:
We are sending this follow up email because we do not believe that we have received a response from you or your child regarding your and / or their observations on June 4, 2010 at Skyline School. Sometimes we have received partial responses from families, and we just want to make sure that we have all the responses from everyone in your family who was present that day.
We realize it is possible that the reason we haven’t received a response from you could be as simple as the fact that you were not there that day.
At this point, it would be helpful for us to know that as well. A simple reply to this email with your name and the information that you were NOT present can assist us in taking you off of our list requiring follow up.
If you or your child WERE at Skyline on June 4, and you haven’t yet responded, please take a moment now to do so. The questionnaire is attached for your convenience. You can either print it, fill it out, scan and send back OR simply respond in the body of an email. Please remember to include your full name as well as your child’s (or children’s).
If we do not receive a response, law enforcement will be contacting you personally later this week. A quick response saves resources, and is much appreciated.
Thank you.
J2K
This Just In…
And, as B would say: “Uh boy.”
According to Terri’s hopelessly “helpful” backwoods publicist, “Terri Moulton Horman was ‘blindsided’ by the divorce papers, according to a close friend.
“A friend of Terri who wished to remain anonymous, told KOIN Local 6 Kyron Horman’s step-mother was caught off guard when she was served divorce papers as well as a restraining order from her husband and Kyron’s father, Kaine Horman.
‘Terri didn’t know she was going to be hit with divorce papers or a restraining order,’ the friend said”
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(http://www.koinlocal6.com/content/news/topstories/story/Terri-Horman-may-talk-to-the-media/Dz4uMChK60KCWjy3W5FG4Q.cspx)
Oooookay. When paired with the gist pieces of the Family Statement (strategically released the day before the divorce “bombshell” got dropped):
“We have been fully briefed by law enforcement on the on-going criminal investigation. …Any actions taken… by us, are based on the best interests of Kyron and Kiara and comply with the law. …”
This can only add up to one conclusion, the way I see it. Kaine, Desiree and Tony were advised by the Sheriff’s Office last week on Terri’s impending arrest. (And Kaine was likely further advised: Lawyer up. Leave. File. Wait.)
tic tic tic…
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Could the child-endangerment be in reference to Terri leaving baby Kiara alone at home on the morning Kyron disappeared?
One question for those who talk about James and Kaine not getting along and Kaine being responsible for him leaving. Has there actually been any confirmation of this?
I’m just not getting what is so odd about a 16 year old boy choosing the chance to live with his father whose wife helps him out with his horse related activities.
Is not interviewing the Tarvers and James any more odd than not searching Desiree’s house? (Not that I think she has anything to do with it)
I think LE actually know what they are working with and who they are looking for and are just holding their info close to their chest while they wait for the pieces to fit together for a sound charge/conviction.
B
I just wish I knew if they had polygraphed Kaine & the rest of the immediate family in Kyron’s world to rule out & rule in.. They went right to Terri which of course is the general path but Kaine leaves me shaking my head & Terri could be a co-dependent personality..
They pollyed both Kaine and Terri
B
As I see it, either LE has evidence that TH or someone else is responsible, or they do not. If they do, then she should already be under arrest. If they have evidence that TH is involved or guilty in some manner, then to delay her arrest is negligent imo. I suppose she could be held as a material witness, if she was involved in some cpacity, but not centrally.
Other than that, this drawn out process, if they do not really have enough information is enough to make anyone break.
To reiterate, LE revidently has enough information to cause KH to leave, divorce, file restraining order, and take child. If they have that much info, then why isn’t TH under arrest, unless LE is looking for more info, and trying to push the envelope.
The unfolding of this drama is highly suspicious. From the disappearance standpoint, and also from the LE standpoint.
LE is not in the Advising/Family Law business.
I believe they are keeping Kaine in the investigative loop, and based on that information, he sought the advice of counsel and followed through.
B
When things fall apart in a marriage, it can be a race to the courthouse. Maybe Kaine got there first with any sort of nebulous allegation. Sad, but it happens all the time. If not a divorce and property settlement now, Kaine is potentially looking at some liability for a $100K+ bill for Terri’s legal defense assuming she is charged. Kaine has a strong motivation to cut his losses now anyway he can.
Was watching “Lie To Me” wishing a real-life face reader could see these people..
44.vidda says:
June 30, 2010 at 7:58 am
Of course , Terri H is in desperation. She knows what happen and I can see her making threats if confronted.
The woman married 3 times. She cannt support herself. She needs men in her life to ” complete ” her. Most importantly,to pay her bills and feed her kid. Never had permanent job. Not even working out any more. Cheated on James father. She had DUI…Bored ? Unhappy ?
We still dont know what was going on with her relationship with Kaine lately. I am just glad she is isolated and not able to hurt anybody from the family.
Are they ever going to find out the details from restraining order ?
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vidda…reading this comment gave me chills. I had (past tense) a friend who fits this description to a T. 3 failed marriages, children with 2 of the husbands, doesn’t work and expects husbands to support her (over $4K a month in child support), lives in a big house, drinks, has male friends….She has accused her ex husbands (plural) of physical abuse to get sympathy from police, courts, etc…She is a classic Borderline Personality definition. Very unstable when rejected puts it mildly…Picture Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction…”I will not be ignored”…This scares me. I know I have worried about the mental and physical affects on her kids since she has custody of them. She uses the children as weapons against the men who rejected her. Very irrational behavior can result when being ignored, rejected, etc. Read up on it…Borderlines can not be “cured” or controlled with medication like some illnesses such as depression.
@tr -
yeah, it’s standard in Family Law TROs and ROs, from Cali to Maryland, to explicitly prohibit access to firearms for the duration of the RO; LE routinely confiscate firearms for the duration.
Blink!
Everything has been strategically been done by LE? Kaine was home. It may be normal for Intel people to work from home, but not normal for him.IMO he was home to “handle” terri. One thing that I thought was odd was the questionnaire about Terri, would LE do this if they thought she was guilty? wouldn’t it be similar to entrapment? Kaine could have been at the school to pick up the science project. Yet he wasn’t on the questionnaire. Lets say they knew she was protecting someone and they believed it was Kaine. Then the best way to make her talk would be to believe he turned on her. Hence encouraging Kaine to file divorce papers. Now that she has been betrayed she might not so willing to protect him. Insert Kaine into the Susan Smith scenario. Make it seem it is Terri they suspect all the while it is Kaine. Then why the RO? and give him the baby? Because he is under protection and will not hurt the baby with someone watching him. Was Kaine at school that day??? where did the ice cream story come from? JMO
Redrock — That’s EXACTLY how I read Kaine. He got to the Courthouse first in this marriage, whereas he got to the Courthouse second in his marriage with Desiree in which he wanted not just their mutual child, but HERS from her previous marriage ! Wonder what his grounds were for filing counter RO against Desiree back then? Same thing, or something “tailored” for Terri this time ’round?
Seems like James might have friends from his home with SM that miss him, and those friends or other parents might know the tug-of-war going on in the Horman household. Seems like maybe somebody might’ve taken it upon themselves to give Kaine payback, that might’ve gone amiss. Certainly, the fallout recently displayed wouldn’t have been anticipated by the ‘somebody’.
That’s why it seems weird to me that James, his father, his wife, all the players in the extended family, haven’t been interviewed. Seems like LE has tunnel-vision.
I hope Terri gets a good criminal defense attorney & a good family law attorney, to fight Kaine. She can’t work in her chosen profession with a child-endangering strike against her that Kaine seems determined to inflict on her.
I think she had to appear upbeat & maintain appearances of normality due to Kaine’s hypersensitive skin & preoccupation with his own self-image & what other people’s opinions of him are. That’s another level on which I interpret him over the last 4 weeks. TH may be shallow in some ways, but I think he’s shallower & controlling, & she’s a pleaser who had to keep things smoothed out for him or he couldn’t cope.
MissMonkey,
A reporter who spoke on NG last night…..says he went and talked to James’s Bio dad. Reporter asked him why James moved out of mom and step-dad’s house. Father said James was doing poorly in school and frequently butted heads with step-dad. (Kaine)
I have always felt that the relationship between Kyron’s family and his “best friends” family was not good at best. I know the interview was granted by the Grandmother, but come on. If I were his parent I would have pursued the Media (with the help of LE) to not air/print. To go against LE/Family when a childs life is at stake is beyond my comprehension. They are just Evil! I think that perhaps Terri was having an affair with best friends father and best friend mother took Kyron to make Terri agonize. I believe LE think Kyron is still alive due to all the photos/videos recently released. One last thing; doesn’t BF family have a home on Sauvie Island and have a white camper/truck?
Look at it this way..LE has made Kaine secure enough to let his guard down. Hoping he will slip up and make a mistake, if he is involved, I can imagine he is feeling like he has gotten away with…?? (Hiding Kyron,I hope so)
On a side note: I have never seen a divorce paper,nor do I plan to. Is it normal before the proceedings to say how the life insurance (of terri only)is going to be handled? And that Kaine is the trustee? Has she been sick? I know pregnancy can bring on all kind of ailments, kidney, thyroid (might explain the weight gain) Let’s hope terri doesn’t have an sudden accidents in the near future, kaine would get her life insurance even with a divorce
Re In Memory of Gini
Thanks for sharing this personal story. knew that Terri shows characteristics of very unstable but didnt realize how well your borderline descriprion fits our situation here…Glen Close character definatelly is a perfect example, agree.
I am about her age. We all have out bagagge, exes etc. She does look to me like someone who would manipulate Kaine ( any man as a matter of fact) with the kids, 100 %. She does look like someone who would do desperate things. IN desperation times like now she should stay way from guns 100 %. Who knows what happened Sat night when Kaine left with the baby after 911 call…
Who knows, it could be the posp partum making it worse . Whether she did something to Ky or she attributed intentionally to the actions of someone else , doesnt matter. She should answer for this cute innocent kid.
Blink may be right that Terri didnt do it & she may be covering for somebody. I hope she pays the price. I cannt get over her playing the caps and the family all along. Like other posters, I have hard time with women offenders… I guess, that s way we are all here ..
We will find out soon what s going on, you know, Blink seems to be always ahead of the media game
Greetings to all
V
MissMonkey,
I also find nothing odd about 16 yr old James for wanting to be closer to his Bio dad. My nephew who just turned 15 recently moved in with his father. He has lived with his mom since their divorce, when he was 5 yrs old. I think it’s normal for boys that age to want to be with their dad.
They pollyed both Kaine and Terri
B
TY
why are the 911 calls the day kyron went missing and this past sat not being released?
Jeff-
final warning, that post is disrespectful to my readers and will not be tolerated. This is not blinkonspringer.
B
What???
The Ex Parte meeting and the sealed order make it clear this was not someone rushing off to beat a spouse to the courthouse. A serious matter to take a woman’s child away from her reach, this is about protecting this child. And it’s about isolating the person who knows what happened, who was involved in planning what happened to Kyron.
How can anyone possibly think this is about divorce settlement money, much less, being billed for the defense of someone yet to be accused? What court in the world would require that a father pay for defense of their child’s killer? Is there a full moon this week??
Agree there is likely more we don’t know in the family history, but it’s painfully obvious that this family (except step mom) has been kept in the loop and that LE is putting the pressure on the one person who has answers to bring Kyron home.
Redrock says:
June 30, 2010 at 9:48 am
When things fall apart in a marriage, it can be a race to the courthouse. Maybe Kaine got there first with any sort of nebulous allegation. Sad, but it happens all the time. If not a divorce and property settlement now, Kaine is potentially looking at some liability for a $100K+ bill for Terri’s legal defense assuming she is charged. Kaine has a strong motivation to cut his losses now anyway he can.
I agree Kleat as to the reason that the restraining order was filed, absolutely.
However, I am not convinced that this marriage wasn’t headed there previously.
Whether or not she comes out swinging will speak volumes for me.
B
It may be that Terri seeks out the next guy before she gets rid of the current one. She may have picked a really bad one this time. I am not a big fan of Kaine either. What must have happened between he and Desiree must have been the same, except it was him. James having to go somewhere else could have been the catalyst of her looking for out of the relationship. I certainly would have a problem staying with a man who could not get along with a child that as far as I hear, is very nice and respectful.
This is so sad. There are no winners here. Kiara is going to have one tough life in any case. My heart just breaks for Our Smiley Guy Ky.
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9.
oneshot says:
June 30, 2010 at 10:13 am
Redrock — That’s EXACTLY how I read Kaine. He got to the Courthouse first in this marriage…”
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I read it completely differently. From my POV, here’s a man whose son is missing, and he’s heartbroken. If LE suspected him of any involvement, he’d be under the same microscope Terri is under, but he isn’t, so LE must not. He then gets the facts from LEs full investigation, and he learns some awful, frightening, heinous information from LE and decides that for the safety of the child who is still with him (read: not missing, because I hold out hope that Kyron is alive). Based on this new information, this man decides he’d better get out and keep the craziness from his daughter. I cannot imagine the awfulness of losing my child and finding out that the person I was married to might be involved. I feel for the guy. And yes, he’s an engineer, but I don’t see “thug”, just maybe “geek”. So in my mind, I just see him caught up in a nightmare of the real variety.
Since I know that it is possible to live with someone who is a sociopath, and have no idea about the person behind the mask until they’re revealed by some awful experience, I know that it is possible that SM falls into that category and Kaine may be in shock about her as well as devastated over the loss of his son. But that’s just me. I’m looking from another perspective, having walked a teeny bit in those shoes. Again, I don’t know Terri, don’t know that she is a sociopath (though at this point, she has displayed some of the signs). But I can’t imagine that in the swath of devastation that is now his life, he was just trying to save some money. I see this as far more emotional and awful for him. But that’s just me, putting myself where he is. I also have faith that LE wouldn’t be honing in on Terri if it weren’t for good reason.
As for Kaine’s trouble with James, I don’t know of a step-parent who hasn’t hit a rough patch with the teenage kids, and honestly, I don’t know of many parents who don’t find it a really trying time. Maybe letting James move was a good solution. I don’t know. But it does seem that we have very few facts re: that dynamic, and I’m no more willing to assume that Kaine was physically or emotionally abusive to James any more than I was willing to assume Terri was guilty based on the little info that we have.
Why does everyone want everything released by now? This is an ongoing investigation of a missing child with a second vulnerable baby, and clearly the investigators have to continue to do their work, no one is arrested yet. And it’s not Florida.
Blinkonspringer… gawwwd forbid!
I think the correct term may be Blinky Springer ;-p
Thanks for that Blink. I am sure your heart is going pitter pat with the rest of us. This is such a nightmare.
I hope you are taking care of yourself during this, Blink. Give the kids an extra hug from me to thank them for sharing their Mom and of course Mr. Blink for giving up some of his leg grabbing time. Take care and stay well, friend.
Kleat,
I agree. I seriously doubt Kaine took these steps willy-nilly. He had to have found out something horrific about Terri. I’m not seeing her as a victim in this situation.
I agree that LE has kept Kaine in the loop and that his stoic expression, not looking at Kyron’s mother during their interview recently, he was holding it together and followed through well, clearly was able to take the steps needed to help bring Kyron home and to protect his daughter. I get the impression that LE is doing an excellent job, if not, it’s not for a lack of dedication and heart.
Jackie Bauer
June 30, 2010 at 10:57 am
As the old saying goes ‘no one knows what goes on behind closed doors’ & that rings strong with Kaine & Terri in this marriage & others.. Kaine at all the press conferences appeared to me to be very composed I didn’t see ‘heartbroken’ but JMO he may just have a very public type of facial expression at all times..
Agreed that there may have been problems in the marriage before this and don’t shoot me but look at the difference in SM appearance in the last 12 months. That is not a happy woman. Maybe she is drinking/whatever on the side and bloated. I don’t know but Kaine to me seems to be more analytical, dry, and not overly emotional, AEB his email at Intel. I think since little K went missing too much has been pointing to SM and he just couldn’t be around the only person known to him to last be with Kyron and too much doubt swirling around her. I’m over emotional and a little nuts, so from minute one I would be the one screaming at my spouse, “But you dropped him off and just walked away and didn’t walk him to his room, he’s only 7, how dare you. Why in such a hurry?”
The 911 call and the RO have been sealed to protect the integrity of the investigation. Was Kaine pressing Terri about failing the polygraphs and she snapped, threatening all of them? We really don’t know, but there must be something key in the documents to have them sealed.
Blink and all the wonderful commentors. Great jobs.
I’m new to reading regularly this week. Dropped in here and there over the last few years. You guys are smart! Wow. Great thinking and sleuthing. Will be back daily to catch up, though I’m not qualified as you all. Your posts are above average thinking and intelligence. Waiting on my hug and cookies, hehehe
At first I felt TH (SM) was totally 100% guilty/involved w/ Kyrons disappearance. Along as things unfolded, as some are stating, something about Kaine is disturbing my Soul. He’s well versed in break ups, divorce, RO’s etc.. The stepson info. coming out only validates my feelings towards Kaine. It is the adults responsibility to reach out and nurture the relationship. Though the child must do their part.
I’m beginning to see in TH a woman insecure, possibly took advantage of early on in Kaines home. Or the opposite, she planned and weaseled herself into the Family dynamics and Kaine being her prize.
Watching Kaine in the recent interviews beside Desiree he seems too “comfy” too “smug” with himself. These divorce actions at this time in Kyrons disappearance is way off base even if Kaine knows 100% Terri is involved. Restraining order would be appropriate in Season, but not Divorce. Tell tale signs of the home environment, conditions of all the immediate family members inside that house.
Use the Andrea Yates case. Drowned their 5 kids. But yet, Mr. Yates still through all this trama and loss, maintained a certain amount of mercy, decency and compassion for his wife, who he knew was insecure and sickly. He showed her human compassion, and yet didn’t hinder the investigation, and supported Andrea’s plight for medical mental help.
Kaine had unusual routines that day too. The 16 year old leaving the home months prior to Kyron missing is too telling to me. Kaine is just as much involved in those family dynamics as one of the responsible adults in that home too. Not just Terri. Kaine seems void of emotions, natural flowing of tears, concern for his family members.
Welcome Kool Look.
I cannot put my finger on what the Hell is bothering me within the relationships of the parties here.
B
Warning: Bitc* alert: I really, really, really hate this case. Have I mentioned that yet today? Well, I do.
I can’t stand the thought of dear Kyron having to fend for his life amongst these selfish horny idiots–every one of them. Whatever Kaine is doing now to protect his daughter, I still think he was privy to much of what Terri was into and I think he was more than cool with it until she went deeper and the rest of the world started paying attention. Too little too late, Kaine. He should have addressed the early signs. There are always early signs and when children are involved it is our obligation to those children to address the freakin’ early signs.
And sorry, teary bio mom, but you did miss your opportunity to protect Kyron because you weren’t there for him. And you missed the opportunity because it was easier to miss it. But you were busy with your hot new hubby, I know. Selfish horny as*holes, every single one of them.
Grrrrrr . . . .
In my opinion, there are very limited scenarios that fit what we know at this time.
If she had something nefarious to do, why not just drop Kyron off at school and go about doing it?
She either directly harmed him (which I personally believe) or wanted Kyron him with her that day for another reason and he was subsequently harmed by another. The reasons for wanting him with her seem to narrow down to drugs and/or sex.
Why don’t they call in Texas Equusearch to look for Kyron??
Because they should not and will not allow civillians to search that terrain for Kyron.
B
LOL, Kleat. Yes, it was full moon on Saturday, June 26. It’s still waning.
And I agree with you, as usual. As I posted yesterday, there is no way Kaine got a TRO that was subsequently sealed (tied to investigation) and emergency custody of that baby without something very, very, very compelling revealed to the judge. Terri is clearly considered to be a danger to her children, and it’s something concrete, not speculative.
Yo, yo, yo dawg! I’m hangin’ with my peeps Kleat and Lisa on this
(Sorry, just adding to the Blinky Springer tone here)
My 2 cents regarding Kaine’s demeanor: He is an Aquarius– inventive, altruist, perceptive, emotionally cool and detached. His moon (how we see him)is in Virgo–introverted, analytical, reserved…careful. Feelings often hidden. His Venus (how he loves)is in Capricorn– Careful, ambitious, detached authoritarian, manager, planner, determined. His Mars (male energy) is in Taurus– Possessive affections, determined, stoic, loyal, not easily angered (explosive when limit is pushed), generous, seeks security.
If I had his exact time of birth I could run his rising sign. Nevertheless, we are seeing in astro chart at work… nothing too surprising here… and neither is Terri’s.. I’ll post that next.
I get a very strong impression that she and kyron left the school together. Maybe he had forgot something and went to their vehicle. Terri maybe became angry that he left something and it wasn’t in their vehicle. My impression and what I visualize is that she started yelling at him to get in and blaming him for forgetting again. That turned soon to violence and she harmed him in a fit of rage. Maybe I a completely off base….
Harry Oakes is in Portland conducting his search for Kyron today.
“ClassyGal says:
June 30, 2010 at 7:54 am
Could she have “traded” Kyron for drugs or sex? Paid off a debt w/Kyron? She IS a sick individual.”
ClassyGal- I’m not sure how you KNOW that she IS a sick individual, do you know her?
I’m not trying to sound hateful, but that seems like quite an accusation of someone we don’t actually KNOW anything about, we have SPECULATED lots of things but there are few things we actually know to be facts. We don’t know what lead to the restraining order and we certainly don’t know what her role was in Kyron’s disappearance.
BTW- Nana2, I’m with you too…there are a few of of us left!
Boy, my last post was harsh. I do see that these people are hurting and are victims too, but I am very, very angry with them all. I just want to slap them all, then maybe offer a hug. But definitely a slap first.
Terri’s sun is in Pisces– Struggles with self-worth, under emotion strain will look for sympathy, dwell on illusions, dreamers, escapism, intuitive, forgiving, personality dualism. Her Moon (How we see her) is in Gemini–another dual sign. Quick, alert, adaptable, restless, competitive, communicative, mentally changeable–appear schizo. Her moon is in the 12th house of secrets and this produces another dreamy state–escapism and persecution. Her Venus (how she loves) is in Aries– fond of admiration, impulsive, hasty marriages, easily aroused, passionate, lies to start over, adventurous. Venus is the 10th house of careers so she likely to find love with a co-worker. Mars (her male energy) is, like Kaine’s in Taurus, but his in the 12th house–hidden. Hers is in the 10th house making it more aggressive and fame seeking.
I woke up this morning, opened my eyes, and fell off the fence. Sigh. Two things have bothered me ever since I found out about them — the truck’s alternator going bad, and the book, Enter a Murderer. An alternator can go bad after being overexposed to water (Suavie Island), and the book Enter a Murderer is about someone who sets up a crime in view of many witnesses.
Everything else, including Terri’s random Facebook postings, can be explained away, but in my mind these two things are quite damning. I don’t want to believe it, but unfortunately, all the scenarios wherein Kyron was taken for revenge or because someone was stalking her are just too out there for me. I’ve always believe it was either a pedophile or Terri, and unfortunately, I think it’s Terri. Sad day for this former fence sitter.
I have been going back and reading over this story and I saw where they said the stepmom and kyron had worked on the science project until 8 a.m. Do we know if anyone saw them take the project and put it up at school? Did she put it up alone? Did anyone see her or kyron put his bag and jacket on his desk? Did he show up to even present his project? I feel in my heart I know the answers already but I want to make sure I haven’t missed something. Thanks for the great work you do!
Off topic Blink but have you heard of this. Not that you need another one. This one’s particularly touching because this little girl seemed to be so good.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/06/27/police-charge-missing-ohio-teens-boyfriend-obstruction-justice/?test=latestnews
Im aware. Sigh.
B
I don’t consider Tim Miller and his group ordinary citizens. His people are highly experience IMO at searching just about any terrain.
I am a member, so neither do I. I used the term civillians, meaning non-law enforcement or military.
B
I went on bringkyronhome.info an requessted a bracelet, no word as of yet, i’m sure kaine is getting lots of requests but shouldn’t he have an auto-reply thatnone available, something something…absolutely not a word
ps i went on yesterday early morning
Is it possible that LE is trying to pull off one of the biggest dupes ever?
Blink, in your opinion is it possible that LE may suspect that Kaine orchestrated the disappearance of Kyron. There could be a number of reasons for this, impending divorce, affair ect. LE “directs” in a non direct way the focus of the investigation onto Terri, to disarm Kaine into thinking he is not a suspect. In my mind he could have just as many reasons to want Kyron to disappear. We know just as much info as to Kaines whereabouts on that Friday as Terris. Is Kyron out of the picture (hiding) to avoid possible custody issues as a result of an impending divorce? Did he set Terri up? and successfully at that?
Disclaimer!!!
Just trying to think outside of the box, I mean no disrespect to Kyron or his family.
Blink,
How do I comment or e-mail so the message only reaches you?
Thx
Post here. Nobody will see it but you and I. Mark top line *PRIVATE*
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