Kyron Horman Missing: Terri Horman Retains HEAVY HITTER HOUZE
Portland, OR– Early this evening, Stephen Houze, prominent Portland criminal defense attorney leveled the playing field.
He is representing Terri Horman, step-mom of missing child Kyron Horman.
The announcement comes on the heels of the filing of divorce by her estranged husband Kaine, and inside sources that state her arrest is imminent.
Check back to blinkoncrime.com for updates.
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I don’t KATU is upset about SM posting. I think there’s just this incredulity about it. I mean here we had been for weeks on-end with almost no words, from anyone in the family; until Desiree/Kaine’s press appearances. But, prior to that time, we had the SM jumping around posting all over message boards. It’s concerning, if not disturbing, for several reasons.
1. Why not spend your time on better things than trolling message boards to see what someone has to say about you?
2. It bothers some to see her focused so much on her online life, when the thought is, she should be more focused on doing things offline; like dealing with Kyron missing and all that that entails.
I think it’s especially bothersome when people add in things like poking people on Facebook and posting smiley faces, etc.
Now let me say, none of those things is really condemnable on their own; but it just shows how her behavior is outside of the norm of how people think she SHOULD react; right or wrong, there is a public expectation.
Of course, it’s not been helped at all by all the secrecy surrounding this case; even for the most basic information, like going for ice cream or her activities for the day, or whether Kaine was home or not.
I suppose there is some method to LE’s madness in which they are keeping everything so very private; but it’s beyond confusing as to exactly why. And it’s counter to just about every case we’ve seen in the media. We as the public have certain expectations; like those involved seeking out public and media assistance. Perhaps we have no rights to those expectations, but it’s become the norm. And when anything deviates from this norm — like this case has in so many ways — it throws up red flags to people.
In my own personal opinion, I think SM is facing this immense scrutiny not just because of circumstantial evidence, but because LE was adamant about keeping all of the most basic info secret. SM was the last person to see Kyron, imo we should’ve seen her talking about that. Whether or not she has an obligation to speak (and she doesn’t), it just does not paint her in a favorable light by not doing so; even though it was at LE’s request.
And yet, when Desiree and Kaine finally spoke, SM still has not. The presumption becomes “what does she have to hide?” And when the public only has a few things to draw from, they’re going to decide on character based on those few things: a person who acted oddly; who posted covertly on news sites to defend herself, while not coming out publicly to do so; who had time to socialize on facebook and go to the gym, but not express her sadness at the loss of Kyron.
I’m not saying it’s right or wrong; just that this is how it is. Public perception of her is not good. And since she has given nothing from herself, people are left to gleen info from the friends who do speak for her, the family’s reactions, the absence of her name from family statements, what kinda captions she posts on her facebook pics, etc.
@ redrock
i wouldn’t worry about her legal fees i’m sure she’ll pay be able to pay him when she does the american thing and writes a book about how innocent she is and how everyone was so ‘meanies’ to her
The ‘Missing Kyron Horman’ facebook page is still up, and reporting the KATU.com issue.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Missing-Kyron-Horman/125336750831264
It’s been reported in the last days, that apparently the people who put this facebook page up will be taking it down by end of this week.
I do not believe there is going to be a 10 a.m. news briefing with the family. I cannot find anything that confirms that notion. Also, several people have surmised that Kaine might have filed for divorce to protect his assets in the wake of Terri’s possible complicity and need for counsel in the situation. I think that theory makes a lot of sense but the 911 calls sort of void it out for me. I DO believe he filed for other reasons. I also feel that Terri has retained an attorney (if she actually has) to not only advise her on what steps to take next but also to help her gain access to her daughter.
Look4Kyron says:
July 1, 2010 at 7:30 am
Harry Oakes, the head of International K-9 Search and Rescue, and his trained search dogs, reportedly found a sock in a spot of water on Wednesday (KPTV) – was this find identified as relevent or not as he did not have anything of Kyron’s to scent the dogs with?
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The sock was determined not to be Kyron’s, as the police were specific that the socks Kyron was wearing that day were Hanes. This sock was not of that brand. I believe Oakes is bringing a couple more dogs to the scene today. I’m quite unfamiliar with the whole “sniffer” dog thing, but I believe he is not working with Kyron’s scent. He apparently has something called Cadaver Scent, which is just as it sounds apparently; some sort of scent associated with deceased bodies. I also believe he was trying to obtain a boat to do a more thorough water search. I’m not really sure of his abilities; but I guess I hope he finds something. I’d really like Kyron to be found alive, but at a month along here, well just recovering him would at least be closure. Ugh.
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raceyrin says:
July 1, 2010 at 9:26 am
Why would the SM take Kyron out of school to go have an affair? It would be easier to leave the baby at the sitters and leave Kyron in school. I don’t get why many think this is what happened.
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I don’t believe that’s what people are thinking. You’re right, having him in school would be the best thing to allow sneaking around. What people are suggesting is that perhaps: 1. Kyron found out about an affair and had to be silenced. 2. SM did something to Kyron because she wanted to be free and clear of him in order to leave Kaine and be with her man on the side. 3. Man on the side did something to Kyron to free SM to be with him or 4. Jilted gf/wife of man on the side did something to Kyron out of revenge.
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RedRock, I’m fairly sure that part of the divorce filing prevents SM from having access to Kaine’s money or from being able to sell anything of their community property. Her counsel would likely be paid for by her parents; perhaps some donations from friends; or maybe he is taking it pro bono, or deferring payment at this point.
To be honest with you, I would not be surprised to find some paid interviews starting to pop-up. I hate to think of news organizations cutting SM a check to speak, but it happens; look at Casey Anthony. Let’s just say I won’t be remotely surprised if someone gets a bigtime People magazine interview or something of the sort.
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MissMonkey says:
July 1, 2010 at 9:56 am
Also, as a SAHM whose husband has the ability to work when he needs/wants to, I do no see what is working people up about the fact that he worked from home in the afternoon or that he *gasp* went to pick up his son from the bus stop.
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Exactly. If working from home is a crime, lock me up, cause I did it for 3 years.
Aside from the fact that he occasionally did work from home (and I’m sure he’s not the only one at the company who did), I believe that it might’ve had something to do with the plans for going out for ice cream to celebrate Kyron’s science fair project. Or it might just be something he did on Friday’s? I’m sure most people, given the chance, would like to leave work early and finish up at home when possible. Nothing nefarious there that I can see.
Apparently, Houze has confirmed. I’m playing catch up with the news.
Kleat says:
July 1, 2010 at 12:03 pm
The ‘Missing Kyron Horman’ facebook page is still up, and reporting the KATU.com issue.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Missing-Kyron-Horman/125336750831264
It’s been reported in the last days, that apparently the people who put this facebook page up will be taking it down by end of this week.
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I may be wrong, but I thought it was the Bring Kyron Home website, which is different from the facebook page.
http://web.me.com/owensfamily4/Bring_Kyron_Home/HOME.html
It was set-up to sell bracelets and t-shirts and whatnot, in order to help finance the search effort? I think to provide money for food for searchers, fliers, etc.
@ TR
Last time they did a presser there was no warning. I have been thinking the same thing that you are but when they did presser with bio mom and dad there was a rumor that was never verified. We will all just have to wait and see. The only ones I have see that are reporting it is Nancy Grace and the Open Discussion FB page. I’m not that says much but I am hoping for something. The media is being pretty good about keeping quiet. I’m pretty impressed.
Hey Blink & Co.,
Do you think that maybe Kaine filing for divorce & filing for a restraining order against Terri has something to do with his logic that an impending arrest is imminent? I pretty much think that their household may not have been “happy” as of late, but to do this in the middle of Kyron being gone/missing tells me something. It makes me believe that Kaine thinks Terri’s involved somewhat, maybe even directly…but it also tell me that he doesn’t wanna be responsible for her legal fees. You see, if Kaine hadn’t filed for divorce before Terri was/is charged, then he actually could have been held responsible for her legal fees. Don’t get me wrong, I think there’s more to it…but I do believe that if he hadn’t filed, he would have to pay for Terri’s lawyer, court costs, fines, etc.
Blink, I’ve tried to join Scared Monkeys for over a year. I tried over a year ago but never received a response from them. I forgot the s/n I chose but I never received an email confirm so I waited then chose another, trying to join. I didn;t receive a response to that either. Now, recently I tried again using this same s/n & email & I still haven’t received a response. I’m a very responsible poster, so I know it’s not that I’ve done something wrong. Could you possibly help me out?
Oh, before I forget, I’ve been following Ruthie’s blog that I believe Wyks provided the link to. “David Brooks” poking Terri & she poking him back – what’s that all about? For people that aren’t aware or aren’t used to Facebook, you can “poke” somebody, it’s about the same as walking up to somebody and tapping them on the back of their shoulder a couple of times with your pointer finger, then walking away. Flirting somewhat. The only people that do this to me on my Facebook are my sons’ young friends…or…guys that I went to hs with that are either recently divorced or unhappily married. NONE, I repeat none, of my good friends “poke” me on Facebook. It’s corny, literally. Incidently, I delete the guys that do this bc I have no desire to cheat on my husband & find it uncanny for somebody to do that to me, a woman of almost 44 years old. I find it normal behaviour that my sons’ teen friends do this, only bc they ALL do it, even the girls…ie: it’s childish. I think when a woman or man act childish like this on a public Facebook or other social networking account, then they may just be up to no good. Just speculating, trying to work through it…not trying to look too deep, but it is uncanny. What’s your take?
Thanks a bunch! Titch
The first 911 call from Horman home lasted 13 minutes
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/missing-oregan-boy-kyron-horman-stepmother-terri-horman-11061709
poking people on facebook is just a way of letting someone that you know that you are aknowledging them without having a converstation and it could be flirting I guess> but if you are married, no harm in getting poked on facebook for goodness sakes, smile and have a good day
Blink, dont know if we are going to talk about this yet, I imagine you are aware.
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People Mag is reporting the presser but not giving a time.
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20398541,00.html?xid=rss-topheadlines
Wasn’t there supposed to be a press conference/release at 10am this morning? I can’t find anything on it…
Also Blink,
I see that The Church is referenced to Integrity. May mean nothing, just another unusual twist. ?
“Our mission is to be a witness of God’s inclusive love to the Episcopal Church and the lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender community.”
Integrity/Portland
c/o St. Stephen’s Episcopal Church
1432 SW 13th Ave
Portland OR 97201
oregonintegrity@gmail.com
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/kyron_horman_search_family_mem.html
They are reporting that Kaine and Desiree are taking questions from reporters now at Brooks Hill Historic Church across the street from Kyron’s school.
Hi Wyks,
Where is the link located for the “Ruthies” blog that contains Facebook conversation of Teri Horman before and after little Kyron went missing.TIA,R
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/kyron_horman_search_family_mem.html
Reporters are to give him their questions then he and Desiree will confer with investigators and then respond after a short break.
From oregonlive.com;
The missing boy’s father, Kaine Horman, and mother, Desiree Young, invited a group of Portland news organizations to Brooks Hill Historic Church across from Skyline School. Horman said he and Young would talk about the search for Kyron.
He said he would take a short list of questions from each news organization, review them with investigators, then respond after a short break.
http://www.kgw.com/news/local/Second-grade-student-missing-from-Skyline-Elementary-95670454.html
KGW.com
Not much new, no video yet of the Q and A press conference but this station will probably air it when its available.
Bit more on the 911 calls and their classifications.
“Yep.
If he does not hit the junkett quickly, I expect her to be arrested with something.
B”
Terri Horman clearly expects to be arrested with something as well, or she would have hired a top gun in family law to fight the custody order and not have felt she needed a criminal defense lawyer.
Blink, while we don’t know what’s in that sealed restraining order file, Terri Horman does, doesn’t she? They don’t just serve her the ruling without the complaint, do they? I guess I’m wondering if that’s the case, how they preserved the integrity of the LE investigation and at the same time got the fire power they needed for the judge’s ruling. She knows a shoe is about to drop, but does she know if it’s a 6-inch stiletto?
Apparently Kaine and Desiree will be taking a few questions from reporters but it doesn’t say when, or much of anything else but here is the link..
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/kyron_horman_search_family_mem.html
Also, in my last post I meant ‘delusional,’ not delulion! sorry about that.
Hi FLGirl,
I meant the comments I keep reading where people think SM brought Kyron with her for a tryst. I have seen it several times over where a post is made re Kyron being taken by someone while he was watching the baby while SM does the deed. I realize everyone is just trying to figure out how it went down but I just don’t think thats plausible. Not that I know anything either.
@Muse “Blink, while we don’t know what’s in that sealed restraining order file, Terri Horman does, doesn’t she?”
This is a good point – It makes sense that one served w/a RO would receive the details/reasons for the RO being issued. Even with the judge ordering to keep it sealed, the parties involved & their attorneys would need to be informed.
While LE may not be keeping Terri in the loop, the documents served to her would give her some clues about where the investigation is going. This might explain her retaining a criminal lawyer instead of a family lawyer.
@ Titch – I ‘poke’ my professional colleagues, my mom, my siblings, my bff, my girlfriends, my guy friends, people i share a hobby with that are on facebook…i’d poke my dog & my cat if they had a facebook page…& i send them Dunkin Donuts, a round of drinks on Wednesday or Friday for Happy Hour, and a whole lot more. My Filipino coworker-friends poke me a lot ! But they’re just a poke-happy group & just happy in general
@ oneshot – Thx. It’s not that case with me…the people that “poke” me are either my kids’ friends or guys that are interested in flirting & such. I’m an easy goin’, sarcastically funny, intelligent, pretty decent to look at, awesome mom & wife. I don’t see the value in “poking” on Facebook, since most of the time I’d be posting to my friends anyway…so I find “poking” just a waste of time & silly. I get what you’re saying, though, I just don’t do it. Then again, I also don’t play games on there, except for Bejeweled Blitz once in awhile.
I only use my FB a/c to stay in touch with multiple friends at the same time – saves me time from having phone conversations with everyone.
http://www.katu.com/
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/kyron_horman_search_family_mem.html
Kaine and Desiree think Kyron still alive, ask Terri to cooperate with LE
“Kyron is still alive,” Desiree said. “We would like all of you – everyone – to continue to get his face out there, to continue to look for him in your day-to-day activities. We pray each day for Kyron,” she said.
Curiouser and curiouser!
KATU & WW report: Desiree Young begs Terri Horman to cooperate w/LE and WW states that both WW & Oregonian asked to leave 10am meeting, while allowing other media to stay.
Breaking News on KATU.com
Kyron Horman’s mother Desiree Young gives press a statement asking Terri Horman to cooperate with investigators. More details and video soon.
Oh my goodness… from http://www.kptv.com/news/24113025/detail.html
PORTLAND, Ore. — The mother of missing 7-year-old Kyron Horman pleaded for the cooperation of the boy’s stepmother Thursday in a statement made to media.
Desiree Young, who is Kyron’s biological mother, implored Terri Horman to cooperate with investigators. It’s the first time Young has mentioned Terri Horman’s name to media members.
Young’s full statement:
Kyron is still alive.
We would like all of you — everyone — to continue to get his face out there. To continue looking for him in your day-to-day activities.
We pray each day for Kyron. We are working with investigators daily to bring Kyron home.
We are extremely confident in how the investiation is going to bring him home to us.
We implore Terri Horman to fully cooperate with the investigators to bring Kyron home.
http://www.katu.com/news/local/97614744.html?tab=video
http://blogs.wweek.com/news/2010/07/01/kyron-hormans-family-boots-ww-and-the-oregonian/
There’s nothing nefarious going on with IntenseDebate…they have checkboxes which allow posters to receive tracking info if someone posts back to them, etc.
to those who have a different opinion than i do, i say: that’s the beauty of the 1st Amendment Right. And I proudly flaunt my right to assert my own opinion, as others do, since there are nations in which citizens do not have that freedom but wish they did.
that being said, there’s no information one way or another that’s come out of this case since it became a criminal investigation. no one who’s engaged in slamming a parent for things that are gossipy in nature based on FB posts for goodness sake, & which has been ongoing since the child was reported missing, has a high moral leg to stand on.
if we were to play the “6 degrees of Kevin Bacon” game, i’d be 2 degrees away from each & every new FBI agent that’s been trained in the last 8-10 years at Quantico. having been trained to critically think, by one of the best in the legal arena, who was also one of the best (top of the academies) in 2 enormous metro areas in LE field as well, i simply see things in a different light than some of y’all. that’s all.
Just saw this on the news: Desiree states “Kyron is alive,” “We implore Terri Horman to coorporate with investigators…”
http://www.koinlocal6.com/mostpopular/story/Mother-believes-Kyron-is-alive/Dz4uMChK60KCWjy3W5FG4Q.cspx
Just saw this on the news: Desiree states “Kyron is alive,” “We implore Terri Horman to coorporate with investigators…”
http://www.koinlocal6.com/mostpopular/story/Mother-believes-Kyron-is-alive/Dz4uMChK60KCWjy3W5FG4Q.cspx
What in the h e double-L is going on? WHERE IS HE?
New press conference. Desiree states, “Kyron is alive,” and “We implore Terri Horman to fully cooperate with the investigation to bring Kyron home.”
What is going on? Where is he? What did she do?
http://www.koinlocal6.com/mostpopular/story/Mother-believes-Kyron-is-alive/Dz4uMChK60KCWjy3W5FG4Q.cspx
here is a link to the Kyron’s family most recent press statement earlier today:
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/kyron_horman_search_family_mem.html#incart_rh
I so feel for Desiree – a mother going through so much torment and pain- yet so much respect for her to still be holding up this well. She gives the strong statement “we implore Terri Horman to cooperate with the inquiry”….but I doubt that’s going to happen now with the magnitude of representation on her behalf. And yet another sign of her guilt, to me.
All local networks in Portland (KATU2,KOIN6,KGW8 & KPTV12) ~2PM released video of Desiree Young pleading for Terri Horman to cooperate w/ investigators to bring Kyron home.
From the WWeek blog re: the press conference this a.m. The reporters were all asked to agree in advance that all conversation this a.m. would be off the record. Then a few reporters were asked to leave. The WWeek was asked to leave, and the reporter noted:
“…As far as I was concerned, after getting kicked out all deals were off. I wasn’t going to keep the meeting off the record.”
Is it just me, or is giving your word, giving your word, and maybe this is why the reporter was asked to leave–because the reporter’s version of giving their word and having integrity were based on what was convenient at the time?
As a journalist, your word is sacrisant. You give it, you own it. I have seen alot of errors and assumptions on that blog, I am not surprised.
B
STILL NO ARREST BLINK!!! What gives!!!
Also, I’ve seen several people ask whether there is still a search going on or not, and I was wondering if you could post a quick answer on that! or you could just say…..NOT.
EEK, sorry for the triple post the website has been funky for me the last couple days. No need to post them all ; )
http://www.kptv.com/index.html
http://www.kgw.com/
http://www.koinlocal6.com/default.aspx
http://www.katu.com/
These are links to sites w/video of Desiree.
Does anyone think TH planned all this and had someone else be responsible for what happened to Kyron, so she could get a book deal? JMO, it sure seems like it’s going in that direction. I’m still trying to get over the THUMBS UP with the 3-word response “everything is good” (or something very similar). Any caring parent with a missing child at this point would be thinking an entirely different 3 words – LIFE IS OVER.
With the commencement of the press conference led by Kaine and Desiree, my hinky meter, creepdar, whatever you want to call it about Kaine, is off the freaking charts.
Something is so completely not right with this case, and as much as I’m off the fence about Terri, I don’t think it’s going to be as simple as “she did it.”
It’s bad when even the bio mom is weirding me out!!
Blink? Perspective?!?
This is the epitome of why no family in this situation should say boo without a PR advisor.
B
I am wondering if their marriage was going sour and Terri could not bear to lose Kyron and she has him somewhere safe waiting for her. She may have sent James away first, then Kyron, not thinking that she would not have her daughter. She may have then been going to set up a house with the 4 of them.
I just see how much love Terri has for her family and cannot at this point, think of anything else, if she was involved and knew what was happening.
I know not everyone here likes the WW but here is an article that’s a bit confusing to me…The Oregonian was booted from the q and a session as was WW. They gave those allowed to stay the “story” and answered a few questions but told reports they couldn’t report on it.
Blink, can you translate this into language that I can understand? Thy tell reporters anything if they can’t report on it? This case seems to be becoming more tangled, rather than untangling before us.
http://blogs.wweek.com/news/2010/07/01/kyron-hormans-family-boots-ww-and-the-oregonian/
Sure-
Terrible Idea. Terrible Execution. Terri is not going to talk with the 3 of them sitting in unison telling the press what they can and cannot say, and besides, she has counsel, who no doubt is being contacted by LE so what is the deal? Honestly, it confirms again for me that LE believes Kyron is deceased, otherwise, who would let them antagonize a possible kidnapper or other.
B
Correction to last post: *why* tell reporters anything if they can’t report on it.
@ Titch: I’ve been trying to post re: the David Brooks poking thing, but my comments won’t upload (Blink, if there are multiples of this, I apologize, and please feel free to delete me
If you google Ruthie in the Sky Terri Horman’s facebook, you’ll get to the link. I’d give the link, but every time I try, my comment disappears, so I’m trying it this way instead.
Anyway, I found it odd that she’d be poking the Saturday night after Kyron went missing. I don’t poke at all, and consider it adolescent and not really for the over 30 or 40 crowd, and I would never use FB at work or poke my boss or coworkers before, during or after work, because it would be considered extremely unprofessional and inappropriate, and I try to stay away from those two things in the work environment, but obviously others work in less structured or formal careers.