Kyron Horman Missing: Terri Horman Retains HEAVY HITTER HOUZE
Portland, OR– Early this evening, Stephen Houze, prominent Portland criminal defense attorney leveled the playing field.
He is representing Terri Horman, step-mom of missing child Kyron Horman.
The announcement comes on the heels of the filing of divorce by her estranged husband Kaine, and inside sources that state her arrest is imminent.
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Kleat, the guy 86′d on NG tonight is the writer of the Willamette Week blog, which has been posting stories from unspecified sources throughout the last few weeks. Unfortunately, whether or not the stories they post are true is not clear, because so little information has been released. After he was dismissed from the presser today, he wrote about today’s events on his blog.
I keep hearing about Kyrons glasses being “mailed”.on other websites. Did I miss something?
At least makes me hopeful he is being held somewhere, With SM;s knowledge, and assistance from friends(lover?)
I really don’t get the criticism of bio mom’s statement, her ‘choice’ of words or how any of these family members went about the press conference today. The press conference with the sole intention of FINDING THEIR MISSING 7 YEAR OLD SON. If it were my child and I felt the last person to see my child was being deceitful or holding back information, “implore” would be the least imposing word in my choice of vocabulary.
I just read about how Kaine treated the media
I am so glad to be married to mr layed back
instead of some one like Kaine
I wonder if he understands how he comes
across
bless him I know he is in grief
but ease up
I’m no crime-sleuth, just a heartbroken local mother who has been as devastated as so many of you have been at this terrible tragedy. I have primarily pursued the issues of the case through this website as it was the best one I could find and the mainstream media just wasn’t cutting it for me. So… I have a theory that I don’t believe I’ve seen addressed yet (maybe because it’s too stupid or wishful!)
NEW(?)THEORY
It is at all possible that Terri did remove Kyron (to a safe hiding place) because he was a victim of physical abuse and she was frightened for his life? My first thought was the teacher was somehow involved in the disappearance because a number of her actions made no sense to me given her line of work and responsibilities (seeing Kyron in a.m. and not alarmed when role was called; brushing off someone pointing out his noted absence as “in the bathroom” with no follow through, and possibly (don’t know if this is fact) his jacket and backpack left at his desk??) After seeing Desiree seemingly at peace with the “knowledge” of Kyron’s “living” state, and witnessing the very scary controlling behavior of Kaine with regard to the media, I can’t help but wonder. The only thing that would ever possess me to clam up the way Terri has while undergoing the thrashing, tremendous pressure and alienation she has, would be if I thought my silence would keep my deeply loved child safe. As to why TH wouldn’t explore more conventional avenues for keeping
Kyron safe, maybe she feared for her (and Kiara’s) own well being and wasn’t sure she could trust the agencies that handle these things. We’ve all seen how the misdhandling of abuse cases can end despite a parentsbest effort: Ashley Pond and Mirranda Gaddis, and countless others. I’m sure there are success stories too, but they don’t sell newspapers. I have always seen Terri as timid and frightened. I can see equating bodybuilding with narcissism but that’s sterotyping. As for sociopath? Well, I guess we have to wait and see what unfolds.
In the meantime, please show me the errors of my thinking – who knows, your responses may be entertaining and we could use a little laugh, however short-lived, in such a dark time.
Thank you Blink for running a respectable blog.
Just watched night line on Terri
it showed her body building pics
and her bloated face pics
why show such really bad pics of her
over and over
does this make any different
in the search for Kyron really
I am tired of looking at her bloated face
I feel like I am watching this ‘show’ with completely different glasses on to everyone. Perhaps mine are broken, or perhaps my view is further away but clearer.
I fully believe that the Youngs and Kaine have been working alongside LE and have been doing what has been asked/instructed. You then have certain media outlets that have no facts as LE hasn’t released any and are doing their own investigation into the family members.
The family wants to keep the focus on Kyron, not on Terri’s online habits, interviews from ex-husbands, child molesting relatives that we don’t even know have ever met Kyron. Everyone complains that they are not out there saying anything and when they do, they are torn apart for what they say.
These parents are going on a month without their son. Without answers as to where he is or what has happened to him. They are going to be frustrated, exhausted, frightened, drained. Were Kaine’s actions based on his decisions alone or was this something agreed upon between all three and perhaps LE? We do not have the answers. All we know is what WW reports and they are not very happy with being kicked out.
Perhaps the parents got tired of being told not to say anything and really wanted to make sure that people are not forgetting about Kyron. I have read that locally the story is not reported on as much as it has been nationally, and not everyone knows about BoC or other sites where they can keep updated. So they begged LE to let them say something and they only agreed if there were some ground rules.
We don’t know.
What we do know, is that there is a heartbroken mother who is missing her baby boy and is desperate for answers and wants to believe that he is coming home to her.
I did notice that there appeared to be a clear Us and You line between the Youngs and Kaine, but if they believe that Terri is in any part responsible, that could be a “you let her do this to him” thing.
I really am not seeing this Control Freak. I am not seeing two men who stood by and allowed Desiree to fall apart while she read the statement. I saw 3 parents trying to keep their child in the news and a mother who just wants her boy home and doesn’t know how to get him there.
Maybe I’m naive, but without the facts, none of us really know do we…
pure speculation: there is a point in the desirree interview where she looks up as though to ask ‘did I do that okay or do we need to do it again?’
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what if this strange presser was really sending the message to the perp that terri hasn’t talked so he can release kyron alive. bizarre I know. I think I’m just building around the hope that kyron is still alive.
anyway, just wanted to toss that out.
Desiree, Stepdad and biodad have all said, “we have been fully briefed by LE and support the investigation.” If Desiree were to say, we believe kyron is dead and Teri please start cooperating with LE is the same as saying…we believe Teri is a murderer. So she had to say kyron is alive to be able to say…Teri please cooperate. Scripted press release and Desiree did not deviate from script. I can kinda understand why the control thing with the reporters of who can stay and can’t. As a nurse, I have seen similar control behaviors when patients lost basic function of daily living, {loss of limbs, movement, grave diagnosis }they try to control the stupidest things…such as: always have the call bell, tissue box, water cup etc, in a certain place.Don’t turn them on the even hour…any little thing that was in their power they wanted to control. {fine by me…their way of coping}. They are feeling HELPLESS, their vulnerable 7 year old son is missing and they are powerless to make him safe.
Off Topic but important:
Still no sign 8 year old Joey Anderson from Sauk County, Wisconsin. He was last seen at 3pm on Wednesday when he went outside to play alone and was reported missing at 9pm Wednesday night. He has OCD and has to have a glass of water with him at all times.
Parent’s say no history of wandering off, so why wait 6 hours before calling police? I just don’t get it.
http://www.nbc15.com/home/headlines/97563024.html
Eh, I’m starting to feel kinda Balloon Boy about this. They have this whole schedule of media events they are going to do weekly? Doesn’t that seem like a strange drawn out timeframe to people?
Kaine freaks me out, did not care for that picture of him with Terri either. Sounds like his divorce from Desiree was very ugly and kind similar in tactics. Starting to feel more sympathetically toward Terri. Is she being framed? Are they doing this for money somehow? Why all of the exhortations for people not to speak to the media and his uber control of it? Is it for attention? If that is the case Kyron may well be fine, which I dearly hope is the case. At this point, you couldn’t make this stuff up. Kaine’s family does seem super creepy, probably criminally so and not just talking about Kristian. Really wonder if Rolf’s Hideaway has been checked out. If Terri posted on here as Oneshot maybe there was some validity to her post?
I have seen many comments on the news blogs offering the possible motive TH may have had if she in fact is responsible for Kyron’e disappearance. One trend has her planning to have Kyron missing to use as a sympathy ploy with Kaine to thwart his plans for divorce. As he would be so engrossed in finding Kyron and grief stricken, he would be less likely to want to proceed. I find that somewhat plausable, but I think we have gone down a dark road at this point. Would love to hear anyone’s thoughts on that theory.
Also, does everyone feel KH’s behavior is odder and more suspect after the news deal yesterday or am I reading too many crazy posts elswhere?
I hate to say it, but I think it’s high time for some real tears. I know my husband would have lost it already, pleading to everybody and anybody to help. I don’t know, maybe I should just shut up and be thankful it is not my family.
I am really at a loss for this activity.
Yesterday was a mess for this poor family, and I do not understand who is advising these people.
I cannot understand why Houzer is not waging a PR war for his innocent client.. whether she is or not.
B
Blink, I posted something from my phone earlier and dont’ see it here, so it may have gotten lost. Please pardon my repeat:
Does anyone think Desiree might have been trying to send the message to the perp that Terri isn’t talking and therefore he is safe to release Kyron and not get caught? Yes, I know it is really flawed logic, but I am grasping. I’d love to buy into a scenario that ends with Kyron alive.
OFF TOPIC- because someone brought this to your attention yesterday Blink, I saw a sad update to the story this morning:
http://www.fox11online.com/dpp/news/wisconsin/reedsburg-missing-boy-joseph-anderson-body-found
Valhall at the Hinky Meter writes a new article on just this subject, worth a read as usual. Title “Why Kyron ‘is still alive’.”
And can anyone imagine giving a press conference to assist in bringing their child home, not having any direct information that he is no longer alive and being able to get those words out that express their worst fear? There is a reason for the public to continue to believe they can still help and not avoid helping in the same way, not give up and to pay attention to little things that might help bring Kyron home.
This isn’t a family protecting the person who last saw the child and lied about where and when the baby was last seen, as it was with the Anthony’s cover up for Casey.
Very interesting opening statement by bio-mom that “Kyron is alive”. Is she reaching out to the people or person she believes has him? Is there a scenario where the SM owed money to someone and he was taken? Is there a message within the statements – why mention that Kyron is allergic to bees in particular? Why appear to alienate some media groups when I think most of the media has tried to help? Meanwhile a Harry Oakes search party is trying to help with no thanks to him and his efforts.
Prayers for Kyron. Prayers for the bio-mom!
FLGirl says: I guess I have to admit that even with all odds against it, I still do believe that Kyron might be alive. Stranger things have happened, esp in this case, and until there’s no longer a way to believe that he’s alive because of definitive proof to the contrary, then yes, I’m going to keep believing that he is alive.
agreed FLGirl…and as a parent, I too would never give up on my kids, and maybe never accept they are gone from my life forever….and maybe not even if proven to me beyond a shadow of a doubt. It is just such a horrible event to even consider.
In many cases, what drives my work, is the sheer horror of a loved one “out there”. I have no explanation for why I am obsessed with the recovery and proper burial if that is the case, but to me it is unforgivable for any human being to be discarded that way.
B
A lot of people deny even when caught red-handed. I don’t think TH is going to say anything more than she already has. Especially now with an attorney bolstering her.
I guess Kaine needs something to control, since he can’t control the Red Squirrel anymore. But this snippet from the pressor really stood out to me:
“On Thursday they will do interviews starting at 4pm but nothing live. Everything taped as has to be held for air until Friday because Kyron went missing on a Friday.”
http://blogs.wweek.com/news/2010/07/01/more-notes-from-the-strange-press-conference-with-kyron-hormans-family/
During the first news conference with family, the deputy assigned to the family said the reason we are doing this today is because it’s been exactly one week from Kyron’s disappearance.
As a sufferer of OCD, I recognize it when I see it.
KGW.com has updated a story ‘today, 8:27 am’ (originally dated June 26) with the information since Desiree’s statement.
Here’s a bit of the update about Thursday’s statement and Desiree answered more questions in written form with the press to help describe Kryon better.
“Kyron’s father, Kaine Horman and his step-father, Tony Young, did not speak to reporters. After Desiree made the brief statement, she got up and the three embraced.
Several hours after the meeting with reporters, Desiree sent an e-mail to KGW with written responses to questions posed to them about the investigation and Kyron. The Q&A said that while the family cannot comment further on Terri, they wanted to tell people more about Kyron. It went on to describe personal details about the little boy including a V-shaped birthmark that appears on his forehead when he is upset.
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Later that same day, a reliable source told KGW Terri was not cooperating with authorities and had refused to answer questions. Neither Terri nor her attorney had yet responded to questions Thursday afternoon.”
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Link: http://www.kgw.com/news/Second-grade-student-missing-from-Skyline-Elementary-95670454.html
I agree with Kleat. If Terri knows he’s not alive, she’s not going to cooperate. If the poor boy is buried or under water at the island location, she can’t say a thing. IMO, if there’s anything she’s got to confess to, it will only be because it’s to her advantage.
Also, Terri might very well have threatened herself, but she posed a threat to her daughter as well. I think it was probably a vicious ordeal, otherwise, there would have been grounds to commit her due to obvious mental instability. I don’t think that was the case. I think they deemed her one who knew right from wrong at the moment and oriented X 3.
*threats to harm herself
On Kyron’s glasses, my intuition told me right away that they found them. I think that they issued a pic of him w/o them and a pic of that type because they were found on the island or in the pick up truck.
@PamVA: UPDATED Friday, July 2, 2010 — 9:45 a.m.
REEDSBURG, Wis. (AP) — The search for a missing 8-year-old Sauk County boy has ended in sadness for the searchers who spent two days looking for him.
The sheriff’s office says the body of Joseph Anderson was found Friday morning in the Baraboo River.
Sheriff’s officials say it’s too early to say whether authorities suspect foul play.
Joseph’s father had reported the boy missing Wednesday about 9 p.m. He was last seen about six hours earlier when he went outside alone to play in the Town of Reedsburg….
OMG, Prayers for this little guy. Look for Dad to be hauled in today.
B
I was going to provide the link to an article I read this morning, but I can’t find it now. It was on a UK website, so I don’t know how the information was obtained. Anyway, the article claims that the search dogs that LE has used are border collies – the same breed now being used by Harry Oakes in his search – which are used to track missing persons. The reporter emphasized they are NOT cadaver dogs! This strongly suggests that LE believes Kyron to be alive.
Not at all, it may mean that they have dual training, or that they are tracking, or attempting to run a track.
B
Hi Blink,
Something keeps eating at the back of my head: If by some chance Kyron is still alive & escapes, he’s gonna head back home…right? Kaine, Kiara & James won’t be there (yeah, I know James moved out months ago). The only person that will be there is Terri, at least from Kyron’s perspective. Even though he had a good relationship, for all intents & purposes, with Desiree & Tony, as well as Quinn, the Horman home on NW Sheltered Nook Road is the home he was used to. If there is a RO against Terri & Kaine truly believes Kyron’s still alive, then it would only be natural that he’d head right back to that house…assuming he’s alive (which I personally don’t think to be true). If he’s timid/shy, then he’ll hide along the way in his quest to find his home. Kaine (as well as the rest of his family) have to know this. So, it leads me to believe Kaine thinks Kyron’s no longer with us but is putting on a “hope” face maybe in the hope that the perp will be found somehow. He has to know that the home Kyron grew up in will be the first & foremost place Kyron would seek if he’s still out there somewhere. So, why would Kaine file a RO & divorce papers shortly after Kyron’s disappearance if he truthfully believed Kyron was still alive? Set aside what I truly believe to be the reason, which is that he doesn’t wanna be responsible for Terri’s legal fees if she is in fact guilty. But again, think about it…why didn’t the police just make Terri move out instead of Kaine with Kiara? Surely Terri could have stayed with a friend, especially the one that seems to like inserting herself in the news by sticking up for Terri every chance she gets. Kaine coulda just stayed at the house with Kiara. It’s really bugging me, almost as if something’s right there at the top of my brain but I can’t put my finger on it. I spoke with a few friends about this, one of which is a cop, they said it’s strange too… Many cases can be brought to light where they would remove the parent that the RO is on in order to keep the child with the other parent in the house, since that would be their security blanket so to speak. It may be a media circus but injunctions could be placed since the child is innocent & could be affected. IOW, a judge could keep the media away from that home by a matter of certain distance. So again, why take Kiara away from that home, as well as himself, if he believes Kyron is still alive? Something isn’t adding up…
For the record, I personally don’t think Kaine is involved, however I do wonder about his motives.
@ Jackie Bauer – Thank you. It’s sad to hear the info on Joey Anderson, very sad. Also, I agree with you about the stupid poking thing. Weird. Is there a connection that you’ve found? I did a name search on court records & there were tons – just don;t know if any pertain to him, OR & WA.
PS – I lllooovvveee 24 & can’t wait for the movies to start…assuming that’s how you contrived your name.
Ribosome July 01, 2010 at 9:21PM
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Did anybody read HopeinVA comments ????
Posted on June 26:
Like I said, there’s a Good Reason for the BioParents to do interviews together instead of as a group of 4 — it was by request of the whacko who has Kyron…..the one who mailed them Kyron’s glasses.
WTF? Is this true or just an internet hoax?
They from here? Source?
B
@ Jackie Bauer – Thanks for the update. So sad for this little guy. I agree Blink, Dad has some questions to answer.
I cannot understand why Houzer is not waging a PR war for his innocent client.. whether she is or not.
B
I agree. I have been thinking today would be the day. It’s weird with the time difference, everything is later for us eastcoast folks.
But wasn’t there something to do with a response in 5 days? I went back and looked at the pdf and cant find what I am looking for. Could be recalling wrong. But it is Friday of a holiday wknd, that seems to be the kind of day for big announcements.
He is not a family lawyer, and I doubt we will even know if that takes place, it is sealed.
Any testimony offered there by Terri can be used in a criminal matter, so I doubt it.
B
Wow. I agree with the member of Blink’s team who said “I dont like it..” This is horrible and beyond understanding. I had hope for Kyron’s safety until yesterday’s news conference, or whatever that was. My heart goes out to the Bio-Mom. I hope she has some sort of counseling at hand. I feel conflicted about Kaine. There is something strange about his demeanor. Maybe he needs a handler? On medication to help with the stress? The step-dad seems fine, and I remember early on it was reported Kyron wanted to be a police detective, so they must have had a good relationship. But the Dad and TH must have had a really messy thing going for her to send her son somewhere else to live, perhaps have removed Kyron ( all allegedly of course) and then to seemingly accept the baby’s removal from the home. Tired of being a mother, for whatever reason? Or a wife? Or is there a different explanation?
Is she being questioned at their home? Are there still police there 20/7? Or was that for Kaine and the baby? She can be on the Internet all the time, now. Or, do whatever she wants to do.
I was not for Mr. Oakes searching at first, against the family’s wishes. Now I am beginning to think it is the only way Kyron will be found. Good luck to him, and prayers for Kyron and all the lost.
Sorry.It was a comment on Oregonian Live:
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/kyron_hormans_family_ask_for_s/4053/comments-4.html
Kool, I agree with you that Kaine’s behavior is odd. However, it is hard to judge the actions of a father with a missing child.
I completely disagree with you on the timing of the divorce and TRO. Would you stay with someone after LE briefed you on the facts of the case and those facts point to your spouse?
Kaine knows Terri’s reactions to each situation. He was with her when they first discovered Kyron missing. He was with her when the authorities put out the flier with her picture on it.
Kaine knows that the things he has seen so far match with the details that the police have given him. No matter how much he loved her and in the past he clearly did (red mustang), he had to face reality and protect his other child. Not to mention how devastated he must be that Terri may be involved.
http://peoplefindsearch.blogspot.com/
@Jackie Bauer -
Thanks for the update. So terrible. I live next to BLM land and have bodies of water all around me. As we have our home fenced in and my children are smaller then 8 if I do not hear them for a second I am checking on them. That will not change with age. Living in Mt. Hood National Forest I know that adults get lost in a snap, let a lone kids. Im sick for that sweet little boy. When you have boys and you live in the woods you have to watch them. I always say, the woods are the a boys play ground.
Really, 6 hours and then you report your child missing? hmmmm hinky
Blink, I think this may be what dawn is referring to:
http : // connect. oregonlive. com/ user/HopeInVA/ comments. html
(take out the spaces)
It’s a list of all or most of their comments up to date thus far…
Titch,
Not to worry, If Kyron showed up at the Horman house, there are many people there besides Terry. The media, her parents and Terry herself would be amazed to see him and he would immediately be returned to his family.
Speculation comment: After watching the interview of just the three of them, and Desiree pleading to Terri; I think it was very awkward, and at the end Desiree says ..”that’s it” the whole time she was reading the paper, it looked like she had never seen that ‘script’ before, what I am trying to say is, is that the entire thing, looked to me as if someone has taken Kyron, and HATES TERRI, or LOVED terri, and so all these things..RO,Divorce,”imploring” it seems to be this person wants Terri to SUFFER. So this goes back to what Blink said very earlier on, that terri has a stalker. It does seem to be that would be the case, OR I am totally wrong and reading to much into things, and Terri is actually guilty. (which I dont think is the case).
Re:HopeinVA — that is username of someone who comments at OregonLive — some people there and on discussions have isolated everyone who posts in support of Terri or critical of Kaine and tried to identify them as Terri posting. IMO the posts that were identified as Terri’s actual posts (username RDSQRL at another site) were relatively mild, asking people not to rush to judgment.
Just read this:
There will be a hearing held on the restraining order Friday afternoon.
http://www.kptv.com/news/24124386/detail.html
Daisy,
I am not discounting that Terri may have had a stalker because that is possible, but if a stalker was involved in the disappearance of Kyron and is trying to frame Terri, she has helped him a lot. She has lied to investigators, lied about her whereabouts on the day Kyron went missing, told the teacher he would be at the doctor and many other things have have pointed the finger at her.
I just can’t help it. I really believe if Kyron was taken by somebody that it’s not a person that “hates” Terri but rather a person that “hates” Kaine. I think if it was somebody that “hates” Terri, they’d have taken Kiara…since it appears she was Terri’s pride & joy.
At this point in time, I’m thinking 3 scenarios:
1) Terri did it out of spite for Kaine, lost her son & couldn’t take it anymore, maybe just flat out snapped.
2) Kaine had a tryst that went awry & they got back at him by taking Kyron.
3) Kyron & a friend used to get in trouble together, were very competetive with each other, & the friend’s mother or father disposed of Kyron.
Yeah, sounds far fetched…still hashing it out in my head… I still believe Terri is involved, directly OR indirectly & possibly knows more than she’s let on. I also think the reason Kaine kicked out the Oregonian & WW is bc they aired stuff they really shouldn’t have, iow maybe they put their own spin on it just to get hits or sell papers & Kyron’s family probably don’t trust them anymore. It takes the focus off of Kyron. I know when a reporter is entrusted to certain info that they should hold it as sacrement or they lose their credibility, sort of an infidelity between the reporter & the reporter’s trusted informant. Then again, is there something that’s being hidden that the family doesn’t want the public to know about? I have to say that I search & search info on Tony & he’s an awesome criminal detective. Maybe he’s helping to direct Kaine & Desiree? He has a vested interest in Kyron, also. I think it’s very telling that they’ve seperated themselves from Terri with Tony on Desiree’s & Kaine’s side.
At “KOOL LOOK,” right, Kaine did hit the gym too. I kind of think he may have been “caught up” in TH’s reality and thus part of the reason for the severe breaking from her. Maybe he finally just looked at her and had a wake up call, I hope that’s the case. I don’t think that Kaine is responsible, but I do think he has a look of guilt, that maybe coupled with his “controlling behavior,” is leaving us with thay uneasy feeling. He probably feels somewhat defensive, I mean this guy chose to marry this woman and who knows how many red-flags he has been ignoring for how long? And now his son is missing. And perhaps he convinced Desiree that Kyron was better off with him and now his son went missing most likely b/c of his wife TH. I am not sure how I’d come across under those circumstances. I am just saying that his personality strikes me as someone who would maybe become more controlling rather than ‘emotional’ like Desiree. Just a thought.
And what a great insight “Shelbar.” Thanks for offering that.
It continues to be difficult for me to imagine this as some sort of “ransom.” As much as I would like that to be the case. I just feel like whoever had Kyron would have cracked by now. But “Twinkletoes” I like that line of thought, that explains Desirees statement and the motive behind it.
I get where everyone is going with the “somebody wants Terri to pay” train of thought…but I have to say (no offense to Kyron intended), don’t you think they would have figured out a way to snatch Kiara if they really wanted to get to her? I mean, the whole school set up was either incredibly well-planned or ridiculously random. If they were planning, I’m thinking they would have done a grocery store grab of the little girl or something like that. If they snatched Kyron on a whim, which is incredibly hard to believe considering the venue, they did a spectacular job considering they have gotten away with it for a month. Either she is stone cold guilty and praying that she can get through this without a conviction due to lack of evidence a la Casey Anthony style (not that I think CA is going to get off), which explains why she has totally clammed up, or she has no idea what to do because she really has no idea what is going on.
I can’t imagine that Terri is wasting her time commenting on blogs. her comments are not going to change sentiment.
yesterday media briefing (not press conference) was a dog and pony show. It is obvious to me that kaine is the ring leader and desiree is just one of his sock puppets. terri was either involved in it or set up.
desiree showed no true emotion – just stuck to the script.
Supposing terri kidnapped him and her accomplice were hiding him – wouldn’t desiree’s statement that “Kyron is alive” imply terri talked? Otherwise how would desiree know he was alive? If I were an accomplice, I would be scared of that statement – not reassured as some have posted.
As for the glasses being mailed – that was a rumor. It is likely Kyron had a spare pair identical to the ones he was wearing. When I wore glasses, I always had two pair i case one was lost or broken. With Kyron’s vision and fear of losing them, that is the most likely explanation for the glasses.
Blink~
I know you’re not a fan of Harry O and his search dogs in this situation but I did watch Nancy Grace (as much as I find her absolutely irritating I feel as if I am getting a little desperate for some answers here!) and he was on. He said during his interview that he gave his dogs a generic cadaver sent. He said that he took his dogs all over SI and that his dogs *hit* on a dock by some houseboats. I’m only bringing this up because of the BP part of the equation. Blink I think it was your thought that he was involved somehow ( I don’t want to miss quote you) and now you have Harry O’s dogs having a cadaver hit on the docks at the houseboats on SI. Now he did not say what house boats the docks were at but just maybe…………….. Just made me think of that whole scenario. Do we know if BP was even questioned? Are you still thinking in that direction Blink? Sense BP rents that HB (I believe that is the truth) cant they get permission from the home owner to search the home? Are police even looking at this guy?
All I can say, without an allegation to anyone, that it will not surprise me in the least if this sweet litle boy is found there.
B
Okay, I have been running through other peoples theories and trying to wrap my brain around them, debunk them, get on board with them. Here is mine… Blink if you don’t want to post it, okay with me, I am uncomfortable even thinking it, let alone writing it. And I have no basis for this other than my “gut.”
First my thoughts that lead to me my theory of what happened:
I agree with a lot of posters on here that TH took him in a last ditch effort to “save herself” i.e. her marriage, and her way of life, or all of the above. I think she took Kyron from the school and either handed him over to someone that she paid to harm him, or someone that she is involved with and doesn’t want to implicate, or perhaps she did something herself. But the timeline is odd, nor do we even know what it is exactly; all we have is 8:45 he went missing, 1:21 she posted his pic on FB. And because she was back at home downloading pictures at 1:21 Portland time, it’s difficult to see her being the one to harm him. I also think she’s probably a quite manipulative person and could manipulate someone else into doing her “dirty work.” From my intuition of her behavior I think she wouldn’t do anything to him herself, because if she did, she couldn’t help but take the responsibility. But I think she is “crazy” enough to be able to twist it in her mind that, while she set the stage for something to happen to Kyron, if it was someone else, she wasn’t the one that is responsible.
So, where I’ve been personally sitting on the fence with others theories and my own is, if she handed him over to someone and he is alive, what are the chances that
A) he hasn’t been found?
B) that that person continues to harbor a child that is getting so much national and international attention?
C) and what was the plan? was this person to keep him forever? if it was a lover she manipulated into helping her with said plan, what would s/he want with this child indefinitely? i can see the plot that she planned to flee with all 3 kids, but things got out of control too quickly…but the person that has him, well, it seems like after a month, and TH’s current circumstances, they would rat TH out realizing they were going to get caught and that the plan fell through – they wouldn’t be reuniting anytime soon. So, better to get some sort of deal for yourself and return the child. So, therefore I don’t see it.
D) if Kyron is alive, he can talk. So, if TH was wanting to protect herself and her “lifestyle” and “got rid of Kyron” it seems odd she would take the chance of him telling on her.
As for selling Kyron, that, I can’t see that either.
So, now if Kyron has been harmed (I just can’t put it any other way). A) Who would do this? Terri? I agree with Blink, as much as I “feel” like she is responsible I find it hard to imagine this. The ONLY senario I can see is if she “let him drown” or something (yuck, I don’t even like writing these things – but that’s my theory). And as I stated before I think that TH likes to think highly of herself and while obviously suffers from some MH issues, is cognizant enough that she wouldn’t be able to “live with that.” Unless it was in the event of an “outburst” but the stage was set, I see way too much premeditation on her part for this to be true.
B) Who would be helping her? And why? What info does LE have? Phone records, computer searches etc.? (In many of the current crime stories I see on 20/20, dateline, etc. the computer is often a wealth of info and often leads to indictment). And if someone else was involved there HAS to be a trail to follow.
I don’t understand the whole Pulama thing, in fact, I haven’t even looked at it or thought about it. But I keep saying that name in my mind and vizualing Sauvies Island, the water and TH driving like a bat out of hell off the island. Now, trust me I am not claiming psychic abilities. It’s just when I think, “what happened to him?” I see picture those 3 things over and over. But maybe it’s just because I don’t understand them. Does anyone know if Kyron could swim? If he is as timid and uncomfortable without his glasses as DY states my guess is no. And in the pic of him with Kaine in the water he has his glasses off, he’s holding onto him and he has floaties on his arms.
Ugh, so what I think happened is she took Kyron to the water on SI, didn’t want to address what she was doing, and took off like a bat out of hell to “get away from it,” to deny it etc. Not so much even as to not get caught but to keep it from penitrating her mind. I think she continued her denial by going home and putting his pictures on FB. And going to the bus-stop etc. I think that she convinced herself to believe these things were actually true and doesn’t want to believe what she has done. In her mind I don’t think she “feels” entirely responsible. I think she probably thinks of it as an accident and this is how she reconciles it in her mind. Thus, she doesn’t come foward because if she gets caught it won’t be “fair,” or she just that far in denial. I think LE found the glasses there, b/c they’d sink. Furthermore, if TH “left” him, as a mom, I can totally see where Desiree would believe he was alive. Until she knows differently she can’t give up on him. She already feels guilty and she can’t “give him up” him again.
I hope I am wrong. Like I said I have no reason to think this. It’s just what my mind keeps leading me to. Tell me I’m way off base here. Oh, and as far as the Pumala connection goes, maybe she asked him about the water. God, I hope he is alive and reunited with his mother.
TJ you say-:I get where everyone is going with the “somebody wants Terri to pay” train of thought…but I have to say (no offense to Kyron intended), don’t you think they would have figured out a way to snatch Kiara if they really wanted to get to her
That would make sense, however, by taking Kyron all blame points to her. Maybe this person wants her to suffer by losing a husband,
sympathy, and to ruin her reputation, so in other words taking her WHOLE world away..including her daughter..(now with Kaine. Again, all speculation obviously.
Blink,
What do you think the upcoming PC at 2pm PST is about?
Link please.
B