Kyron Horman Case: The Path From Suspect To Defendant Is Forged
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Portland, OR- The tangled web that is the life of Terri Horman continues to weave.
In an Exclusive development to blinkoncrime.com, a Portland local, declining to be identified, provides the bombshell revelation that Terri Horman was behind the 5:16PM call to 911 last June 26th.
The object of her “threat based” call to 911 requiring officers response?
The Landscaper, in his white truck, on her property, demanding his payment for $10,000.
The same Portland source confirmed that an undercover detective, playing the role of an associate of the landscaper turned alleged assassin, was present. It was also confirmed a bulk of the incident was overheard on the police scanner. The Truck registration and plate were called in on an open channel as well.
What they did not count on, during the surreptitious meeting, was that Terri Horman would shut down the brief meeting and call Police; thwarting what they were hopeful would end in an arrest.
Kaine Horman had been advised to remove the couples 18 month old daughter in advance, for their safety, earlier in the day.
Upon deputies arrival, as informed by Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office about the sting, detectives were forced to tell Terri Horman she was a suspect. Horman hired Stephen Houze, prominent Portland defense attorney by Monday June 28th.
The identity of the landscaper has been withheld as this is an ongoing investigation, but blinkoncrime.com has learned that it is contained in the sealed portion of the restraining order obtained by Kaine Horman.
blinkoncrime reader titch contributed research to this article
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Blink…sorry if this has been previously posted. Just wondering what your take is on this little tidbit? I also checked out the Club Sesso website…boy howdeee! Now, if I were Kaine and didn’t want this photo shared, I’d probably be major freaking out and who knows what actions would take place. Could Kaine have panicked enough to hide Kyron, then set the rest of this case into motion? Maybe to make TH appear to be the psycho, before it comes out it’s really HIM? Just a thought…
http://marinadedave.com/
And regarding Angela, Jame’s step mom…she truly is an amazing woman. We correspond, daily….
@Minima: … And many, many women are in prison for killing their abuser, but no need to get into that because, let’s be clear…
Too true, Minima, and even though rage murders are still bad, they’re different. I’m willing to bet that most of those women didn’t do two MFH schemes and have a missing step-child. And there are lots of studies to support that. That kind of murder is often done during an attack even. And though I don’t condone those, I do understand them. The TH situation, you are correct, she is the abuser, and she is far more “Scott Peterson” / “Drew Peterson” type scenario, mho. But the secret of her success is that like any good sociopath/narcissist, she will be able to stir up sympathy and put the problem back on someone else.
There’s an interesting statement analysis site, too, and I don’t know if they guy is any good (Seamus?) but he sure seems to nail the family. His details of Desiree’s statements are just hearbreaking, just so you know
http://www.skylinek8.org/
Kyron no longer seems to be mentioned anywhere on his school website. Made me sad.
Re: Sting operation
Has the 911 call TH supposedly made about LS on May 9th been confirmed?
I have followed this case closely and am very impressed with some of the ideas discussed here. I was the one who did various hair changes via photoshop via LE/FBI released photo of Kyron without his glasses. I did about 5 of them…After lookimg at his face so closely over the past few days something dawned on me that I haven’t heard yet(maybe I missed it!–maybe I am totally wrong!!) On Kyrons face- right cheek under his glasses frame is a beauty mark. I see it in most photos that are newer- clearer- and when his frame isn’t covering it up. I would love to hear back if anyone else can see this! This would really help people to further ID him…thank you. We love you Kyron!!
I believe that Kyron was lured into a closet at school, knocked out and removed in a container of some kind, perhaps a large trash can on a dolly. LE said there were deliverymen there that morning. It could have been an accomplice or Terri who returned in disguise. She did not drive the red mustang because it would be far more memorable than a generic white truck. If he was loaded onto the truck bed and off in the container, there wouldn’t be any of his dna on the truck bed, only in the cab where it would be expected as he sat there on the way to school that morning. He was handed over to someone on Sauvie Island…possibly in a drugged state. From there it’s anyone’s guess as to what happened to him. Motive? Revenge, money…the usual. I think after it all died down, Kaine would have been next.
Forgot to add, many narcissists are sociopaths and most (all?) sociopaths are deeply narcissistic. And most of them aren’t easily IDd.
Next up:
Blink, These words are looming large:
“The only thing we are sure of, is that he was dropped off.”
“Dropped off” is so like tossed out, no care taken, left there without stopping…
I know that others have asked this, but I’m going to try again since maybe now more info can be given: Is there a specific reason that LE was looking for luggage/tote, etc? I got a cold chill when I saw the picture of our little lost boy sleeping in that suitcase and yes, I did wonder if that was later inspiration for TH, but I tried not to let the thought linger
OT I’m sorry this is off topic and Blink if you want to omit I respect that but…………………………………………………………………………………… Issues with Jane on HLN comes out with their leading story LINDSAY LOHAN??? And there is an amber alert for a sweet little beautiful 4 yr old girl that got “snatched” from her front yard??? What is wrong with this fricking world???? I’m sorry I am SO SICK of Jane Nancy and MIKE!!!! Done!
I know that people are saying Kaine must have been a mean husband, Kaine must have been abusive..where are the facts to support that?
Desiree had an RO ..but not anything like the RO in this case..I think RO’s are par for the course in many divorces..keeps everybody in their place.
Where is this coming from..I see nothing about him being controlling.
His email to his friends at work was more then likely approved by LE. It seems to me that Desiree and Kaine have tried to abide by LE’s rules. This may be the reason that nothing with Kyron’s scent was given to Mr Oaks..LE and Mr Oaks have a history of not getting along. If it was my son I would do what LE said.
Also I think LE have known since June 13th about the hit Terri placed on Kaine. Why else would they have started to consider this a criminal investigation on that date? I think it took them a period of time to track down LS guy..and get to that truth.
No one has stepped forward to say to LE Kaine was abusive. Controlling doesn’t even come close to abusive. And my money is on the fact that the controlling party was Terri. While body building there would have been strict menus, strict exercise routines, strict everything for her to accomplish what she did. So who is more controlling? He worked, he supported her, he gave the kids a good home..and he obviously loved Kyron.
Reread the articles that just came out in answer to reporter’s questions. When asked where Kyron would have been over the July 4th holiday..Kaine answers that he would have been on a special trip for the two them to California to visit friends and do all the things Kyron loved..then he names those things. He loved Kyron..and loved spending time with him.
I’m thinking that, based on what we’ve heard about Kyron (shy, timid, etc) he would ONLY have left school with someone he trusted: Terri. It would not have been anything unusual to see Terri & Kyron walking around in the parking lot. At the time, nobody would have thought anything about it. It would have been so ordinary that even after Kyron went missing, someone’s memory might not have been jogged.
Then came those questionnaires. I feel very strongly that LE gained valuable info from those. Possibly even found someone who remembered seeing Kyron & Terri together AFTER she says she left him to walk to class. And LE isn’t letting that cat out of the bag just yet.
Blink: I can only assume that your “That is False” statement is in reference to my “They have nothing” statement. They do have lots of circumstantial evidence, I’ll give ya that. However, they are far short from taking anything that will lead a grand jury to an indictment. Let alone a jury to convict. Again, I say, no hard evidence, no confession, no body,…. NO CASE. Look at Drew Peterson. There isn’t much question he off’d his wife Stacy. Yet, he’s never been charged with anything pertaining to that case.
How can you speculate on what evidence has been collected in this case? You have no idea.
B
I’m the one that asked about Phyllis. In the article before this one, Titch and Blink were discussing a rumor about someone named Phyllis. I figured, since Titch helped research this one, that Phyllis would be identified. Maybe she’s part of a developing story…?
Blink, am I reading too much into the fact that the heading of this article “Kyron Horman Case:…” is different than previous articles about Kyron, which are entitled “Kyron Horman Missing and Endangered…”?
Seems Teri doesn’t think “long range”. Abduct and kill your stepchild 6 months after trying to hire a hitman for Hubby.
Try to have hubby killed, didn’t work, ok, now plan how to kill stepson. She doesn’t think further than her driveway. If the “timing” wasn’t right to take Kyron then what would her next plan have been in 6 months?
I wonder what her computer history shows. “how to kill hubby?” poisons? maybe Kaine should have a heavy metal drug screen to she if she was slowly trying to kill him. She would be stupid enough to search nefarious things on her computer then wait several month and try it.
I don’t think any LS is involved with Kyron. That is Teri and Teri alone.
2 separate plans one with help, one without.
Karen C. says: July 6, 2010 at 3:43 pm
“Quick question- anyone out there know how far away the bus stop is from the house?”
http://www.pps.k12.or.us/depts-c/bus/bus_out.php?school=SKY&upload_date=4/27/2010
It appears to stop at the Horman Address—the question is how long does it take to walk down the driveway? Previous reports indicate the the house is secluded.
RE: #47: Mr Donahue is Mike Donahue with KOIN TV. This was the station that erroneously reported online on June 17th in the afternoon that the body of Kyron was found – http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/rumor_mill_in_kyron_horman_dis.html
Please tell the very sharp news director to run a criminal records check on TH, but by her maiden name.
The local news (maybe kgw?) just had an interview with a landscaper with the last name of Gallagher who had been contacted by TH around 2 months ago. I caught the very end of it, so I couldn’t tell if he said he eventually did work for her or not. It didn’t sound like it. He definitely wasn’t the one involved in the sting.
Could it be that the landscaper was at the school the morning that Kyron disappeared. Kyron saw something inappropriate between Terri and the landscaper. Landscaper decides he just can’t take the chance, for whatever reason, that Kyron will say something to his dad about it. Kyron goes back to see the electric exhibit, landscaper spots him and sees his chance and spirits Kyron away, either willingly or unwillingly. Just theorizing.
Please pray for Alisa Maier, doe eyes and cute little cherub face, so sad!– this is where your camera phone comes in handy, takes two seconds and cost nothing to take a quick picture of suspicious cars in your neighborhood on the side of the road. It may be nothing however it can save lives. I take pics all the time of hinky cars in our neighborhood.
http://www.kmov.com/home/4-year-old-girl-taken-from-front-yard-97826599.html
KMOV) – An Amber Alert has been issued for a missing four-year-old girl from Louisiana, Missouri.
Police say Alisa Maier was playing with her six-year-old brother in their front yard sometime after 7 p.m. on Monday when a black four-door car pulled up and took the girl. The car may have damage to the hood or front end.
Alisa is a white girl about three feet tall, weighs 40 pounds and has brown hair and brown eyes. She was wearing a white T-shirt and blue jean shorts when she was taken.
The suspect is described as a white man in his late teens or early twenties with dark, curly hair.
Steadychick says:
July 6, 2010 at 8:10 pm
Could it be that the landscaper was at the school the morning that Kyron disappeared. Kyron saw something inappropriate between Terri and the landscaper. Landscaper decides he just can’t take the chance, for whatever reason, that Kyron will say something to his dad about it. Kyron goes back to see the electric exhibit, landscaper spots him and sees his chance and spirits Kyron away, either willingly or unwillingly. Just theorizing.
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JMO: could be, but it probably isn’t. I give LE a little more credit, and it’s really, really hard to explain away two separate MFH attempts by TH.
Would not substantial hard evidence lead to a speedy Grand Jury indictment? (None Yet) That’s how it seems for work around my parts…. You have some major insight to all this evidence? Am I mistaken? Are you on the investigative team (i.e. ground zero)?
Kaine Horman: “We were actually supposed to be on vacation right now. We were really looking forward to going down and visiting some friends in California. We were going to be there for an extended period of time. A lot of the families down there have kids around his age that he knows so we were really excited about that.”
I take it Terri and the baby weren’t going for an extended period of time? Kaine or friends of Kaine: (FOC) Hows about accounting for baby Kiara that morning?
Why did the LS and undercover person show up at Terri’s house and demand the $10,000? Obviously,if the LS was hired to off Kaine it didn’t come to fruition as we all know he’s still alive, so what was Terri to think? That she’s been set up, which she was and she didn’t fall for it that’s why she called 911? I really do not understand what LE is up to with this “sting” gone bad.
Terri wanted her husband killed.
Kyron is missing and presumed dead.
Even though they have uncovered a plot by Terri, its against her husband, not her step son.
Thats the way I see it.
I mean, I know the two are obviously related, but through pure fact, they are seemingly…unrelated.
Do you know what I mean?
Coming from you, my eternal karmic innocent, yes it does.
You know I say that affectionately and with respect.
I admire your ability to be objective.
B
22 Kaylee says:
July 6, 2010 at 12:30 pm
If the first 911 call is real, then LE already knew about this guy. Could what happened have been prevented? Gulping hard here. The same self-proclaimed insider (on oregonlive.com) who tells of the 911 call also says that baby Kiara was with Terri the whole morning and there are store video tapes of them together. It’s the first answer I’ve seen to “Where was the baby?”
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If this turned out to be true, and the baby was with TH and they were mostly accounted for on June 4th, then Brenda’s comment I pasted below would make even more sense than it already does.
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41 Brenda says:
July 6, 2010 at 1:31 pm
hmmm.. so the LS could have been traced through payments he received from TH supposedly for landscaping, despite KH having no knowledge of any yardwork done. (Perhaps TH knew this man through friends and family so was aware that he might need cash and was vulnerable to being approached as a potential hit man.)When challenged by LE the LS could have confessed that the payment not for landscaping but was the first of two intended as payment in return for killing KH. Could Terri then have backed out of the second payment if she had had second thoughts, the LS (who could be desperate for money, perhaps through obligations to family etc) without the potential second payment. Pushed to the brink he challenges TH resulting in the May 911 call, in which she accuses him of something (obviously not related to getting KH killed). Thinking that this may have scared him off she relaxes, only to discover that Kyron might be a target when his glasses were dropped off her house on June 4th, realising that he is terrible danger she drives around visiting places LS might be found. On finding nothing she goes home calls the school pretending to be enquiring about the science projects, as no red flags are raised concerning Kyron being absent, she relaxes thinking its just a threat, nevertheless she rushes after KH and little K to the bus stop to reassure herself, then finds that all her worst fears have come true.
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Then this would all tie together as Blink said early on, that TH did something or had contact with someone that set into motion the tragic disappearance of Kyron, but she is most likely not the one who took him or hurt him. It still makes her guilty as hell because she had contact for evil intents and purposes with people that put ALL of her family in harms way. This could very well have happened to Kiara or James, instead of Kyron-and then maybe she would be singing a different tune and doing EVERYTHING possible to try to save them. Moving James hours away, and being with Kiara all the time, it really only left poor little Kyron out in the open as a target.
Karma is one tiny step away from TH right now, and I’m sure she knows it.
TO CLARIFY: NOT 2 MFH schemes — the 2nd landscaper who LE has spoken with was on a local radio show last night — he responded to an ad for landscaper that Terri Horman posted a few months ago… she did not call him. The alleged hitman scheme is w/ LS already discussed.
http://www.kxl.com/EXCLUSIVE-AUDIO–Landscaper-Acted-on-Lead-From-Ter/7620648
The simplest account would be something as follows:
Woman turned 40, possibly already perimenopausal with accompanying depression. Bonds better with, and enjoys teaching and company of children more than adults. Third marriage might be rocky and resume not great. Always been highly neurotic, anxiety predominantly. Channels that into the usual array of activities: overexercising, computer-related hobbies, drinking, maybe sex. 21st century coping mechanisms.
Maybe takes on a socially inappropriate lover. Doesn’t feel great about that in comparison to the bright achiever she married.
From there it’s some version of the jilted lover, garden variety. He snatches the easiest child of hers he can get to. Sketchy on details from here. LE found phone/electronic connections between the two and went from there. There was probably no MFH and no $10K or other remuneration (the affection was a freebie). There were no payments to the LS for landscaping or anything else. “I hired LS to do landscaping” sounded better than “I’m bedding him, that’s why we stay in touch.”
For awhile maybe she believed her child was alive. Maybe she was blackmailed, threatened. Maybe her other children were threatened.
Then LE tells KH to get the baby & leave. Don’t know the rationale they gave him; but, the real reason was that they planned the sting for late aftn that day & the driveway might be an explosive place for the innocent to be.
At the sting, LS was given a provocative script, which followed, coincidentally, a BOMBSHELL headline that TH had solicited him for murder. The sting was a fishing expedition to get something on either one or both of them.
We have no idea what the exact script was. After that TH hired a lawyer because she could no longer halfway cooperate with LE, withholding only the knowledge of the kidnapper’s identity while trying to cooperate with the rest.
JMO; MOO and all that!
where are we able to see records of 911 calls? Someone mentioned about an earlier call back in May?? How do you find out about those?
Well that Hook article is definitely going to bring out the haterz that pounce on any opportunity to get their old worn out digs into B. It’s as predictable as the sunrise.
Interesting I did not get a call or e for a quote in response, no? I can assure you I would not be directly referencing another journalists work without so much as a courtesy response.
AND I post and participate on FM in my own hat…
B
I’m a little unsure of the time line of when the attempted sting happened. Could it be that poor Desiree has to go on TV and say Kyron is alive so that when LS demands payment they can get Terri taped saying “you didn’t get it done, I’m not paying you?”. Or is that out of wack with the time line.
What of uncle Horman? Where was he before incarceration, why taken into custody when he was, just a coincidence that delayed justice was served at this time, or was it helped along by this case, who was he communicating with, what was his relationship with his family, Kaine and especially Terri?
@Marci/Kosmo: Jane is what I call a hick in nice clothes. She needs to take her big mouth and go speak at rehabs. That’s assuming she’s truly been through the process of sobriety. Doubtful.
New on KATU Portland news; from Meford, OR where Desiree (Bio mom) lives:
http://www.katu.com/news/local/97904344.html
That poor woman.
Everything you need to know about Terri Horman appears in that statement.
B
Lizzy, Skyline school has a new website. Kyrons picture is still there.
http://www.pps.k12.or.us/schools/skyline/
Blink -I realize you are a journalist and not a therapist…but I’m going to bed very sad tonight b/c it really troubles me DEEPLY that you believe landscaper is involved in this. I respect your opinion immensely. But if that is true then there are TWO people in this world that have it in them to plan the murder of a 7 year old and that just makes this even worse to me than if Terri did it alone. I can’t imagine the emotional and mental rollercoaster that Desiree must be on. I’m not sure if it was on this sit or another where a commenter said “it’s not the stanger we have to fear but the monster at the dinner table.” That just gives me chills. There’s no punishment fit for this crime.
Brenda
Interesting…but the LS came forward after Kyron went missing and was one of the leads LE was following up on. LS story was he was offered a large sum of $$$ to off Kaine. (now the LS I’m referring to is the one involved in the “sting” with LE). Why was the LS demanding his money from Terri during the sting if he as he supposedly said for the offing of Kaine if the offing was obviously not carried out? Why would he expect any money from her?
On another note..I’ve also heard about Kyron’s glasses being put in the Horman’s mailbox…might just be speculation.
I hope LE has some concrete evidence in this case, but I’m not convinced they do.
Another thought. Maybe the murder of Kaine was supposed to have taken place the day Kyron disappeared. Maybe TH either had Kyron taken and hidden away that day or hid him herself. Either way, it would mean someone else was involved and helping her with her plan. Maybe she was planning all the while to take the baby and retrieve Kyron after the deed was done. Something went wrong and Kaine was still in the picture and found out that Kyron was gone.
This would only make sense if she were legitimately afraid of Kaine, both for herself and the children, and extremely bonded to Kyron, which would make sense since she’s raised him since he was tiny. She knew that once Kaine was gone, Kyron would be returned to Desiree. But now everything has gone completely wrong and there is a good chance whoever is involved with helping her has harmed Kyron. Maybe this is why Kaine and Desiree seem so adamant that Kyron is still alive.
Then again, maybe the MFH had little to do with it. Perhaps she had changed her mind about that and decided on a different course of action. Maybe Terri was planning on taking the baby and leaving, had Kyron hidden, and planned on picking him up later that day. Maybe Kaine came home unexpectedly early that day, before Terri had a chance to leave. Thinking, thinking.
http://www.katu.com/news/local/97904344.html
“Terri, you need to do what is right,” said Desiree Young. “Not for me, not for Tony, not for Kaine, not even for Kyron. You need to do it for Kiara (Kaine and Terri’s 19-month-old daughter), because she needs to see that you did the right thing to help bring her brother home. She loves him very much.”
That statement by Desiree is beyond sad. :*(
Blink, re: Desiree’s statement – we only need to know that TH is most (or only) affected by her feelings for Kiara? Is that the takeaway?
Lori D, Thanks, that helps. I knew there was a new website, but somehow I guess I had them backwards.
This statement read by Desiree was so much “better” than the last one. I think anger is kicking in, and that will help her for a bit. The whole Thursday/Friday thing seems to be gone; it was so odd.
You know, I’ve tried to play devil’s advocate and defend Terri some. But if there is a chance in hell she has info she hasn’t given police, in the interest of saving her own skin, even if what happened was out of her hands, she is beneath contempt now.
My take on her statement, and Kaine not being there, was that they took the feedback from the debacle of last week seriously. I continue to be worried about her, I hope Tony is either with her constantly, or has made arrangements for a proffessional to be.
B
Oh, and I somehow found it interesting that James was not in the list of family members in the statement that Desiree read.
Also, the poor woman is wearing a long-sleeved turtleneck in July. Is she okay physically?
Ya know, I wondered the same thing. It is 102 here, so that was my first question.
B
So in trying to wrap my head around this. Why would TH pursue not one, but two… maybe three landscapers for her dirty deed? Why landscapers? If I were going to hire a hitman, I wouldn’t think… hmmmm, those landscapers are the guys to ask. Like when they’re not planting box hedges, they’re knocking people off for cash?
So I’m thinking there must be a middleman, someone who directed her in how to hire someone for murder. But who, and how does one get involved with people like that? The average law-abiding citizen doesn’t really have that kind of network available to them. I know I can barely get someone to refer me to a good mechanic, let alone a contract killer!
I imagine her being instructed to place an ad for a landscaper with a particular wording, which would illicit a response from a particular person or persons who would do what she’s really looking to have done. That would explain why the landscaper (mentioned in post pg 2 #47 by SJC) reported responding to her ad with a genuine interest in working was never called back. But how do you even get to that point where you know how to hook up with murderers? There must be even more to this.
Blink, I know you said a few days ago that things were only going to get worse before they get better… geez, are we there yet?
Thanks!
“Wow, is this saying that there was a SECOND LS solicited?
Meanwhile, a landscaper recently hired by the Hormans said he was contacted by detectives and cooperated with the investigation. Police have confirmed a report that Terri Horman tried to pay another as yet unnamed landscaper to kill her husband, Kaine Horman, in 2009.
http://www.katu.com/news/local/97845894.html
Yep. I would say we have our third unsub.
Shout out to LE- well played.
B
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Blink:
Since no names are used, it’s hard to clarify. I thoughts, as did some others I think, that there were two confirmed Landscape Lovers, LSL I and LSL II. Then there is a new landscaper who was interviewed, and who actually did only the yard (not the SM, no murder for hire). So reading your comment, I thought that LSL I, LSL II, and Plain-old-no-murder-nor-lover-only-grass landscaper was a third party. But then Angela_NW says above that there was only one murder for hire LSL. So can you clarify?
Gosh Blink – another reference to BoC on KATU. And you’re so gracious to put the focus back on Kyron. That’s why I stay here.
Again, spoke to their news director briefly-
There is a serious commitment to find Kyron in this community.
B
I think Terri has some sort of mental issue, and the thought process of a child.
She reminds me a lot of the woman who murdered Sandra Cantu.
Unfortunately, I am still not able to connect the dots between hiring a hit on your husband and your step son going missing.
I agree its all too weird and likely part of a bigger scheme, but all this does for me is confirm that Terri has a questionable character.
Can someone spell it out for me?
@19 Redrock says:
July 6, 2010 at 8:29 pm
Redrock, I’m curious. Where does it say Terri and Kiara weren’t going? I can understand why Kaine wouldn’t wax all romantic about TH at this point (understatement) but I don’t see her or Kiara specifically excluded.
Desiree makes me want to just cry
but calling out Terri seems hopeless
if Terri cared for anyone besides herself
she would have cracked by now
IMO
I can only think that Terri is somehow enjoying the pain that Kaine is going through right now. That’s the only reason I can think of for her not to cooperate. Unless she’s stupid enought to think she is going to get away with what she has done.
Blink,
http://www.katu.com/news/local/97904344.html
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Also on Tuesday, KATU News was able to independently confirm some of the details from an online report from blinkoncrime.com that the landscaper Terri Horman allegedly tried to hire to kill her husband, Kaine, did show up at her house and had an undercover detective with him.
The source confirmed that the landscaper was wearing a wire. The source said there was some sort of a dispute over $10,000 and was connected to the first of two 9-1-1 calls placed from the Horman’s home on that Saturday.
The first call, at 5:18 p.m., was over some sort of a threat. The second was placed at 11:39 and was related to a custody issue after Kaine took their young daughter and left.
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They said independently confirmed… I don’t think Katu would say that if it literally wasn’t true, so imo LE had to have reasonable belief that part if not all of his story was true in order to get a wire. That takes more man hours to do so, plus wouldn’t the cop listening to the tap have to be trained in that area of expertise? So, it must be a good lead for the police to go through this trouble & spend the money for the wire, imo.
While statistics show me that Kyron most likely isn;t with us anymore, my heart is begging & pleading for his safe return.
I wish Terri & whomever else may be in the “know” would just do the right thing & send a sign or something. Send a hint, anonymously if you have to, pointing in the direction where Kyron would be found.
Now, at the beginning of Desiree’s heartfelt plea, she mentioned Kaine was needed by investigators & that took priority. Wonder what that’s all about?