Kyron Horman Case: The Path From Suspect To Defendant Is Forged
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Portland, OR- The tangled web that is the life of Terri Horman continues to weave.
In an Exclusive development to blinkoncrime.com, a Portland local, declining to be identified, provides the bombshell revelation that Terri Horman was behind the 5:16PM call to 911 last June 26th.
The object of her “threat based” call to 911 requiring officers response?
The Landscaper, in his white truck, on her property, demanding his payment for $10,000.
The same Portland source confirmed that an undercover detective, playing the role of an associate of the landscaper turned alleged assassin, was present. It was also confirmed a bulk of the incident was overheard on the police scanner. The Truck registration and plate were called in on an open channel as well.
What they did not count on, during the surreptitious meeting, was that Terri Horman would shut down the brief meeting and call Police; thwarting what they were hopeful would end in an arrest.
Kaine Horman had been advised to remove the couples 18 month old daughter in advance, for their safety, earlier in the day.
Upon deputies arrival, as informed by Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office about the sting, detectives were forced to tell Terri Horman she was a suspect. Horman hired Stephen Houze, prominent Portland defense attorney by Monday June 28th.
The identity of the landscaper has been withheld as this is an ongoing investigation, but blinkoncrime.com has learned that it is contained in the sealed portion of the restraining order obtained by Kaine Horman.
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People magazine’s site ran a story on this, but credits The Oregonian with reporting the development. I left a comment correcting them with a link to your story. As a former journalist myself I’d hate for someone else to get the credit for a scoop!
Is there a consensus about what we have so far and if so, what is it? Can someone summarize the facts thus far and not theories or opinions?
I read some comments saying maybe SM wanted to make husbands death look like a suicide. Don’t think this is the case as any life insurance wouldn’t pay out for a suicide. It would however for an accidental death like a car accident. Wondering if LE new a little more back at the start of this mess. Could the reason the truck was towed be so it could be inspected for any funny business?
Blink: I noticed another Mary, so I’ll add a “Faye” to mine, if that is OK with you?
nana2 says:
July 7, 2010 at 10:16 am
Quote: “you would think if your child went missing on that day how can you be so exact about the time you did things”
I don’t really understand how it works, but I really do think you remember with great clarity.
Twenty two years ago, my husband was involved in a car accident and passed away. Right today, as I type this, I can remember exact details of the last morning we shared. I remember what we had for breakfast, our discussion, what we wore. Everything.
I think, somehow, our minds preserve our last moments with those we love, and are closely connected.
In a new development, the Multnomah County District Attorney has removed his opposition to making the restraining order against Terri Moulton Horman public.
http://www.koinlocal6.com/content/ne…jy3W5FG4Q.cspx
Blink:
Do you think this will get “darker” still?
Does “X” in xactly mean anything?
Why no more mention from anybody of Brian Pumala and Avery Villareal?
Do you think LE knows where these two are?
Still just waiting to find out where Kyron is… I can’t stop checking this sight, but tense up each time I do. I’m afraid of finding out the one thing I really don’t want to know.
I hope God will not have mercy on anybody’s soul for this situation. I know I won’t. That may not be a PC statement, but I’m not really a PC type of girl. If anybody involved with this situation is reading this, be assured, you will be found and revealed. Each an every one of you.
My 6 year old lost another tooth last night and it made me cry. She also wears glasses that make her eyes look huge… I love them!
I have thought about the unemployement
here and no jobs
all of us working have seen many changes
in the work place this last year
so I think Kaine is thinking about his job security
and worried
he may not have a lot of PTO to cover this
time off
Brown says aspects of Terri Moulton Horman’s behavior seem to indicate Munchausen syndrome, a disorder that covers a range of psychotic behavior mainly focused on the subject’s family in a bid for attention
http://wweek.com/editorial/3635/14243/
Munchausen by proxy syndrome (MBPS) is a relatively uncommon condition that involves the exaggeration or fabrication of illnesses or symptoms by a primary caretaker. One of the most harmful forms of child abuse, MBPS was named after Baron von Munchausen, an 18th-century German dignitary known for telling outlandish stories.
About MBPS
In MBPS, an individual — usually a mother — deliberately makes another person (most often his or her own preschool child) sick or convinces others that the person is sick. The parent or caregiver misleads others into thinking that the child has medical problems by lying and reporting fictitious episodes. He or she may exaggerate, fabricate, or induce symptoms. As a result, doctors usually order tests, try different types of medications, and may even hospitalize the child or perform surgery to determine the cause.
Typically, the perpetrator feels satisfied by gaining the attention and sympathy of doctors, nurses, and others who come into contact with him or her and the child. Some experts believe that it isn’t just the attention that’s gained from the “illness” of the child that drives this behavior, but also the satisfaction in being able to deceive individuals that they consider to be more important and powerful than themselves.
Because the parent or caregiver appears to be so caring and attentive, often no one suspects any wrongdoing. A perplexing aspect of the syndrome is the ability of the parent or caregiver to fool and manipulate doctors. Frequently, the perpetrator is familiar with the medical profession and is very good at fooling the doctors. Even the most experienced doctors can miss the meaning of the inconsistencies in the child’s symptoms. It’s not unusual for medical personnel to overlook the possibility of MBPS because it goes against the belief that a parent or caregiver would never deliberately hurt his or her child.
Children who are subject to MBPS are typically preschool age, although there have been reported cases in kids up to 16 years old, and there are equal numbers of boys and girls. About 98% of the perpetrators are female
http://kidshealth.org/parent/general/sick/munchausen.html#
pdh3 says:
July 7, 2010 at 11:23 am
“Engineers are analytical, and it shows in all phases of their lives. Engineers are detail people, even down to the smallest thing, so that’s why Kaine is so precise. It’s just who he is.”
Then why the disconnect with the way he answered questions about the search on Sauvie Island, the talent show and, in the most recent Q & A, the doctor appointment? The way he answered them sounded like he didn’t care about the details. I call B.S. Those are important questions I’d want answered: What’s this about a doctor appt? What’s this about a talent show? Where the hell was Kitty that morning?
When I press my husband for details after a non-answer, he says I’m giving him the 3rd degree and I don’t need to know all the details. I just like to know everything – both sides – before jumping on a band wagon. Maybe Kaine’s answers are another case of the public is on a “need to know” basis and we don’t need to know. I can’t believe he doesn’t want to know, though.
Why has no reporter asked that last burning question: Where was Kitty? Is that the next thing to come out, given Desiree’s mention of her yesterday?
Patiently waiting for the other shoe to drop ..I feel an arrest is on the horizon.
Susan wrote: “(I wonder if LE has checked in Arizona, where one AP has reportedly gone.–likely they have, but I would just like to hear more on the BP/AP potential involvement, b/c of Tanners address to the media.)”
Susan: I, too, have been keeping this possibility in the back of my mind. I do believe, at this point, it seems like a very remote possibility. But, we can always hope, if it would lead to Kyron’s safe return!
“Its oh so quiet, hush hush” (sing-a-long with another B). Making me nervous Blink.
I know I’m not the inside, but I’m worried this is going cold. With the murder for hire incident coming out, it feels like this investigation is turning into “whatever we can stick her with because we don’t have Kyron.” Gosh, I hope I’m wrong.
Kyron needs to be found. Someone needs to talk. DY is coming out ONCE AGAIN pleading! for TH to do the right thing. I hope TH has the TV on 24/7, but I doubt it. At this point its up to her parents to lay heavy on her.
Praying.
Question: Do we know how Kaine & Terri met? I came across something that said when Desiree became ill and moved to Canada for treatment, Terri — who was Desiree’s friend — then became involved with Kaine and moved in to be mommy to Kyron.
Is this true?
If this has already been discussed, I apologize.
#2 Leah – There are insurance policies that pay out for suicide. The premiums are high, but they do exist.
@Kaylee you asked: ” How we go from Terri being a flawed human being motivated by competition, pride and envy to being a sociopath, I don’t get. I’m not saying she isn’t a sociopath, I just don’t get it.”
It doesn’t make sense because sociopaths don’t make sense to normal people.
Read up on it here: http://www.crimeandfederalism.com/sociopathy_project/
or here http://www.youmeworks.com/sociopaths.html
Or just google it.
Sociopaths are not crazy-eyed homicidal maniacs lunging at people with knives. They’ve difficult to detect and catch. Many a smart person has been fooled. And many lives have been ruined. Once a sociopath is “unveiled”, they will go to great lengths to fix the problem, and without true conscience, there is no limit to those lengths.
RollerMonkey!! How precious!!
Ready to arrest her for murder for hire plot. Interesting… The clown reporter says, “She sensed something was up”. Yea right.. Her sense was so keen she called the cops on him. Excuse me, but without a recording or LE witness to this so called “murder for hire plot”, this is nothing but hearsay. I.E. not admissible in court. That’s a fact. That’s exactly why LE posing as LS buddy was there. They have zero real evidence on this plot. I wonder what LS arrest record is like. Houze would eat that alive.
cc says:
July 7, 2010 at 2:40 pm
Brown says aspects of Terri Moulton Horman’s behavior seem to indicate Munchausen syndrome, a disorder that covers a range of psychotic behavior mainly focused on the subject’s family in a bid for attention
http://wweek.com/editorial/3635/14243/
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Hi CC. I read the atricle linked above and although Dr Brown is quoted in it, Munchousen syndrome is not mentioned. Did you read Dr Brown’s mention of Terri and Munchousen in a different article?
I keep reading that TH was the last KNOWN person to see Kyron. If we believe this statement, can we then conclude that police have discounted the statement made by Tanner (Kyron’s best friend)who claims he saw/was with Kyron after 9:00pm while viewing the science projects in small groups. This has been gnawing at me and if I have overlooked something, anybody, please fill me in.
Also, does anyone know how many vehicles the Horman’s own? It’s been stated repeatedly that TH drove the white pickup the morning of June 4. Is this the vehicle KH would usually drive to work? Did he drive Terri’s red Mustang that morning? I thought there were sightings of the red Mustang speeding on Sauvie Island. If so, is there a 3rd vehicle that we don’t know about?
I’m so befuddled by these issues. Help is appreciated from any Blinkster “in the know”. Thanks.
Does anyone know if a packed lunch was in his napsack? Does Skyline have a lunch program?
My heart is breaking and I am beginning to feel angered. This charade must come to an end.
Blink, why do you allow posters to keep repeating misinformation of more than one supposed murder plot? The 2nd Landscaper (Zack) was on the radio & told his story: TH advertised (on an online site/service) for a landscaper in April/May, —he responded, —she did NOT contact him, –end of story.
There was no 2nd murder plot reported.
13.Tamtex says:
July 7, 2010 at 3:14 pm
“Question: Do we know how Kaine & Terri met? I came across something that said when Desiree became ill and moved to Canada for treatment, Terri — who was Desiree’s friend — then became involved with Kaine and moved in to be mommy to Kyron.
Is this true?
If this has already been discussed, I apologize.”
Tamtex: This has been discussed at various times, but with no definite answers. Yes, Desiree became ill (kidney failure) and moved to Canada for treatment, then ended up with a hefty medical bill (all out of pocket). When she returned to U.S., she moved in with her parents. I don’t know at what point Terri entered the picture and began caring for Kyron. I have read that she took care of him since he was three days old. I’m not sure, though, how old Kyron was when Desiree became ill, or the length of her illness and treatment. Is anyone here able to supply that information?
As for the idea that Terri and Desiree were good friends before Terri began caring for Kyron, doubts have been raised – even denied by Desiree. That may be a rumor started by Terri, since she has been posting on various forums, apparently to paint a much different picture of herself than the one that is emerging in the media.
Is it true that TH was made at KH for having an affair with a co-worker? I read that on an ABC blog.
Sigh.
Pull up an article, stay awhile.
B
@eligrandma:
we only know of 2 vehicles: red mustang and white truck. LE hasn’t commented on Tanner’s statement because LE specifically asked everyone at the school not to talk to media. I believe he wasn’t in the small group because Tanner stated he was missing before they broke for small groups and thats when teacher and other person noticed he was missing. Tanner says he saw Kyron after TH dropped him off, but LE says TH was the last one to see him. hope that helps.
@CovertCCW: you need to check the definition of hearsay. Here’s one for easy reference:
“The Hearsay Rule is an analytic rule of evidence that defines hearsay and provides for both exceptions and exemptions from that rule. There is no all-encompassing definition of hearsay in the United States. However, most evidentiary codes defining hearsay adopt verbatim the rule as laid out in the Federal Rules of Evidence, which generally defines hearsay as a “statement, other than one made by the declarant while testifying at the trial or hearing, offered in evidence to prove the truth of the matter asserted.”[2] Historically, the rule against hearsay is aimed at prohibiting the use of a person’s assertion, as equivalent to testimony to the fact asserted, unless the assertor is brought to testify in court where he may be placed under oath and cross-examined.”
Simply put, if you offer me $10K to kill someone, I can testify to that because you said it to me directly. If the neighbor tells me that you offered them $10K to kill someone, and I try to testify that you said that to them, then that’s hearsay. The neighbor must testify re: their own $10K offer.
The LSL’s testimony would not be hearsay if TH said it to him directly. It might be subject to scrutiny, or even doubted, but it’s not hearsay. So if you are going to use hearsay in your argument, I thought you should be clear on what it means.
Is it a possibility that another can will be opened soon? This waiting game is terribly frustrating, though I know that’s all in a day’s work for LE. I’m praying that Kyron will be found soon and that some solid convictions will come out of all of this. I’m thinking that we’re experiencing the calm before the storm…
I’m pretty sure that early on, right after Kyron disappeared, there were at least rumors that he was supposed to be going to Desiree’s for the weekend. But, like just about everything else in this case, I’m pretty sure it never got confirmed by LE, so it probably got chalked up to speculation.
Kaine and the ice cream doesn’t really bother me either. Once again, because LE instructed everyone to be tightlipped, it never came out at the beginning where ANYONE was or what the plans were. I think it’s very plausible they were going to stop for ice cream, otherwise, why would all 3 (Kaine , Kiara and Terri) have to go to the bus stop? They were probably going to leave from there and get something to eat, then stop back home and get Kyron’s stuff together. I have no issues with Terri driving Kyron either. She probably did it every so often. And considering Kaine had been at work that day/all week, I could see him staying home to spend time with Kiara; since Terri gets to see Kiara all day, every day.
The thing to consider is this, it would not be out of the ordinary for Terri to be doing the meet-up. For all intents and purposes, she was his main caretaker. Putting aside the murder for hire and whatever else has come out about Terri since, up until that point, she at least seemed to be an involved step-mother. Now, if it was a relative who was not in the immediate family who was driving Kyron, that might throw up some red flags to me, but she was his stepmother, he spent more time with her than anyone; so there’s nothing unusual that she would be the one to take him to meet Desiree, imo.
I think we all have to remember, we are looking at this with skeptical eyes now, wanting to read into every little detail. Sometimes there is nothing to read into. And again, I think this goes back to all of the silence surrounding the case. I think if we’d have gotten at least timelines for everyone involved, much less being able to hear everyone speak-out right-off, that things wouldn’t be so confusing and speculative at this point.
Munchausen syndrome…now I hadn’t thought of that, but there’s an interesting possibility! I have met people with this (used to work in pediatrics) and it’s certainly possible…
one can’t know for sure however unless there is enough contact with that individual to establish that there is a pattern to that individual’s behavior.
IT is waaay too quiet today in here so I wonder what Blink is doing? or writing? hmmmmmm
18.Annals says:
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Hi CC. I read the atricle linked above and although Dr Brown is quoted in it, Munchousen syndrome is not mentioned. Did you read Dr Brown’s mention of Terri and Munchousen in a different article?
Did you read below the advertisement..where it said “Story continues below”
CovertCCW, I can smell you from here.
John Walsh’s words keep reverberating in my ears: “The media will solve this case.”
@oneilgirl…- “I could not disagree more. Having been raised in a home where my Dad was extremely abusive to everyone in the whole home it was VERY much a secret that did not come out until he finally made an attempt on my Mom’s life.”
We all have our opinions, and I suppose that each person’s experience is there own. In the situation of my childhood friend, who was severely abused at the hands of his father, we knew. The kids in the neighborhood, his sisters, surely his mother, his cousins.Those of us who were not immediate fam knew, not because anyone told us, but because of the marks on him, the way that he would be on lock down for days, the one time that he was chained to the doghouse in the backyard, and someone happened to see him. He never told, but we knew. My cousins, whose father was emotionally abusive to all of them, as well as his nieces and nephews, wife, and was physically abusive anytime a child was what he considered to be defiant, often giving the children terribly menacing looks, and puffing out his chest, we knew. Another neighbor kid, whose dad was in and out of prison from the time he and his brother were infants, though the boys would often fight among themselves, we knew that when their dad was home, they had visible marks that were more…pronounced than when they were just wrestling around, and “brother fighting”, and they would be on lock down for a few days at a time, and look down when they walked past the father…yeah…we knew. In the situation at my home, my nanny knew, my sister-in-law knew (because she had been my husband’s abusee when they were growing up…she later confided “he beat me up long before he ever touched you…I knew”). I’m sure that some people are able to keep things like that secret, but I think that in many, if not most situations, down the line, even when people claim they didn’t know at the time, they aren’t surprised to hear it, and that there are often tell-tale signs that other abuse victims recognize. I remember going in to a CPS office (to advocate for a child), and seeing the chart on the wall, “Signs that a child is being abused or neglected.” There are signs. Gotta say that Kyron and the (not leaving the) bed thing is behavior off of that wall poster. Hunger, shyness, unkempt, winces at loud sounds, etc…
@Covert- Really? First party testimony from a co-conspirator, in a murder-for-hire case is hearsay, and inadmissible? Hmmmmm.
@those asking about life insurance coverage w/suicide- on my Mutual of Omaha policies, suicide is covered 2 yrs after policy is written, with no add to the premium.
@Blink (et al…)- Yesterday, I understood the early posts to state that a second landscaper who was offered money for a hit, then I saw someone posting here that it was some guy who was interviewing for a landscape position, and he thought TH declined him bc he wasn’t “what she was looking for” (paraphrasing). Has it been confirmed that another witness came forward, who was offered money by TH to murder KH? I’m confused here. First it was, then it wasn’t.
Also, did they impound LS #1′s truck, and check it for evidence?
To the person who mentioned that they might have taken him out in a container, preventing DNA transfer to truck bed, good observation.
Does anyone know if the area where the trucker saw a guy in a truck with a boy that looked like Kyron (was that Salmon Berry?, something like that) area has been thoroughly searched? I know it’s big terrain, and I also understand that they took the search down a notch, when they considered it recovery vs rescue, but please tell me that they’re still actively and thoroughly searching.
Someone mentioned before that when a child went missing in their area, they were asked by LE to check their site. Is that being done in OR?
Bring Kyron home!!!
their own
I read the article; it does mention it: here is the direct quote:
“Brown says aspects of Terri Moulton Horman’s behavior seem to indicate Munchausen syndrome, a disorder that covers a range of psychotic behavior mainly focused on the subject’s family in a bid for attention.
“You want a lot of sympathy. Maybe you want to be the center of a huge child search,” Brown says. “That’s one of the difficulties, because in the beginning it’s very difficult to tell the difference between someone who’s just a very attentive mom.”
Here is the link again: http://wweek.com/editorial/3635/14243/
MUNCHAUSEN? Someone please revoke this woman’s license. How did she attain her degree? Cereal box? She cites the public observations of Terri, not her own, and cites Terri went to the gym, not Kaine and Terri. She is in unimformed/uneducated fool.
I am dismayed at how many individuals are throwing out terms like Narcissist, and sociopath without comprehending what the meaning is. The detective boards are at least trying to build theory from known fact.
This case has become the most ludicrous example thus far of wild speculations that I have ever seen. May as well throw Lombroso’s atavism into the mix. Let’s see how her skull measures… Truly disgusted. Truly.
Just a note for people who are curious about the billboards in Russian — Portland has a really high Ukranian and Russian population. I don’t think the Russian or Spanish language billboards are clues to the case.
I have a question. Not sure if I missed something or not, but during the most recent questions and answers that Desiree and her husband conducted, she said she drives to pick up her “children” all the time. That she loves spending time in the car with her “boys” and that she meets Terri half way to get them.
What other “boy” is she referring to? Where does the other boy live?
Anyone know about this?
19.lizzy says:
July 7, 2010 at 10:43 am
pamomma, the unmade bed comment puzzled me, too. It could be something she always does between visits, although it would be a little eccentric, imo. Or maybe she just makes it up with clean sheets before he comes again?
Or maybe she slept there the first night he was missing.
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Oh, that breaks my heart. Because that is mst certainly what I would have done.
Please come home sweet little boy.
Tamtex says:
July 7, 2010 at 3:14 pm
Question: Do we know how Kaine & Terri met? I came across something that said when Desiree became ill and moved to Canada for treatment, Terri — who was Desiree’s friend — then became involved with Kaine and moved in to be mommy to Kyron.
Is this true?
If this has already been discussed, I apologize.
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I don’t think we know how Kaine and Terri met; but Desiree stated again today, when asked, that she did not know Terri from before. In fact she said she didn’t know her until Kyron was about 1 1/2 years old.
So, if Kaine was willing to let Terri move in and help with Kyron shortly after that (when Desiree was having kidney treatment), then Kaine must have known Terri for a while prior to that. I mean, I can’t imagine anyone would let a perfect stranger move herself into their house (along with her own child) to take care of his toddler son. So, speculation on my part, but Kaine and Terri obviously knew each other somewhat before Kyron came into the picture.
It’s my personal speculation, that Kaine and Terri may have been involved prior, and that she wasn’t just a live-in nanny. Personally I would not be surprised if Terri and Kaine being involved was what led Desiree to file for divorce while she was 8 months pregnant.
Would make sense too, if Terri and Kaine were involved while Desiree was pregnant, that Desiree got the RO to keep Kaine from trying to take custody of Kyron. Afterall, ailing mother vs. well-off father with a mother figure (Terri), would possibly have ended with Kaine getting custody.
Obviously, the past is the past though and Kaine and Desiree were able to come to an agreement with shared custody, and what benefitted Kyron the most.
I thought “unsub” meant unsubstantiated.
Charlotte says:
July 7, 2010 at 5:55 pm
I have a question. Not sure if I missed something or not, but during the most recent questions and answers that Desiree and her husband conducted, she said she drives to pick up her “children” all the time. That she loves spending time in the car with her “boys” and that she meets Terri half way to get them.
What other “boy” is she referring to? Where does the other boy live?
Anyone know about this?
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Desiree has an older son from a marriage previous to Kaine. I believe that son was around Kyron’s age when Kyron was born. I remember soon after Kyron went missing that it was discussed that so many times a month, ALL parents met-up to exchange children. So, it would be Terri (or Kaine) bringing Kyron and the father of the older boy bringing him, and then Desiree would take them both home with her at the same time.
I can’t remember if Terri’s older son was involved in this situation as well (meaning he might’ve usually accompanied Terri/Kyron to meet Desiree, and his legal father met-up with him at that time as well). Sure does sound confusing at first glance, but it makes sense to have all the pick-ups/drop-offs happening at the same time. Plus that gives Kyron time to spend with his older biological brother.
Hope that helps some!
Blink will be on the show today discussing Kyron…Is it 9 EST ?
http://scaredmonkeys.com/
Yes, my time is around 9:40PM approximate
B
@Futureman,
No, there is just about NOTHING with this case to me that says garden variety kidnapping.
At this point I am even entertaining the idea that KH and TH conspired to keep Ky from their weekend visit with the Young’s because just maybe, Ky preferred being where he had an older brother, and wanted to stay with the Youngs permanantly, now that other brother was sent away. That is why I find it odd that somehow this visit was neglected to be mentioned or reported on (the weekend visit which was to start that evening.) The first thought in anyone’s mind would be, who would want to thwart that visit?
Desiree also just said “they aren’t sharing” (presumably information). but note the THEY. The Youngs just had their own press conference without Kaine.
Might be that Ky is with Terri’s son, first husband Tarver?
Especially considering some of the family members’ prior antics, this is beginning to sound to me like a family problem/custody issue/possible manipulation or hoax. JMHO.
@ mynamehere: Pat Brown obtained her Master’s degree from Boston University. And she didn’t say that Terri HAD Munchausen Syndrome, she merely observed that certain aspects of her behavior were indicative of the disorder. I think the important thing to remember is that this blog is not a court of law– we are allowed to speculate here. If Terri didn’t want people to speculate about her, then she shouldn’t have taken to the comment sections of the local news sites to semi-anonymously defend herself.
36.mynamehere says:
July 7, 2010 at 5:42 pm
MUNCHAUSEN? Someone please revoke this woman’s license
It’s the only motive that makes any sense at this point
Kill Kiane?, Kyron missing.. I would like to know how she knew Bio mother now and if it was before her Kidneys failed and why her kidneys failed?
http://www.koinlocal6.com/content/news/topstories/story/Ann-Rule-on-the-Kyron-Horman-case-I-have-the/TED_cXMFckKYXIXvWJkXnw.cspx
Ann Rule on the Kyron Horman case: “I have the feeling it’s right on the edge of exploding”
35.minima says:
July 7, 2010 at 12:09 pm
minima, I really appreciate your comments among others, esp blink herself. TY
@mynamehere: Actually, I don’t get the MBP idea either, seems a stretch to me, but there has been some very good information on here re: both sociopaths and narcissists, and some good links for those not familiar (I cited a couple above). As I’m sure you know, both of those happen right next door (a figure of speech) and aren’t nearly so rare as MBP, unfortunately. In fact, the FBI criminal profilers were the ones I first read using the sociopath term re: TH (she’d kind of have to be if she did this, this=being MFH or hurt Kyron).
cc; you were right, I read the article twice and did not scroll down past a big blank area. Thanks.