Kyron Horman Missing and Endangered: Kaine Horman Points A Finger Directly At Terri Horman
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“I believe respondent (Terri) is involved in the disappearance of my son Kyron who has been missing since June 4, 2010”
The grim words of Kaine Horman as they appeared in the restraining order filed against his estranged wife, Terri Moulton Horman, were unsealed yesterday.
It was the start of developments beginning to weave a portrait of Terri Horman, from the eyes of her husband and Kyron Horman’s biological Mother, Desiree Young.
“I thought the marriage was doing pretty well,” Kaine Horman said during a one-on-one interview with The Oregonian, “until we had our daughter, Kiara.”
Declining to elaborate, rumors of Terri Horman suffering from bouts of post partum depression following the birth of the couples 19 month old daughter have been swirling since the case began.
Yesterday’s press conference with Kyron’s parents, Kaine and Desiree left no doubt they believe Terri is involved with Kyron’s disappearance, and confirmed what has been reported exclusively on blinkoncrime.com previously:Terri Horman failed both polygraph tests administered during the investigation.
“I have known Terri a long time, and I know she is lying.” She went on to say she had her suspicions from the onset of the phone call she received alerting her that Kyron was missing.
Curiously, famed Portland attorney Stephen Houze, retained by Terri Horman June 28th, known for his Public*Relations*Prowess, would not comment on the divorce, custody, or criminal investigation involving his client.
Although Terri Horman had 5 days to respond to object to the restraining order which denies her any visitation with the couples daughter, there was no response filed on her behalf in family court.
It is this editors opinion that was a calculated move on her part NOT to have to answer to the allegations of Kaine’s petition which could then be used against her in a criminal proceeding.
Last evening, an amendment was filed to the restraining order to force Terri Horman from the marital residence, which was purchased in Kaine Horman’s name in December 2006.
Speaking to blinkoncrime.com on the condition of anonymity, sources inside the investigation have confirmed that the detectives sting on the grounds of the Horman home, where a landscaper believed to have been in a romantic relationship with Terri Horman requested $10,000 for an alleged murder for hire plot, may have impeded the investigation.
“The climate was one where their hand was forced. They had the guy saying one thing, and when they said “prove it”, they felt they would be arresting her on at least the solicitation charge.
Did it backfire? Uh, yes, in a way, because for one– nobody gets paid ten grand for killing a live guy.. For two, she did not flinch, and between the two of them at the time she called 911, she looked more credible. It was an uncomfortable situation for detectives to have to explain to the patrol.
I think they are desperate to resolve this case, but I do not think Terri will be the first to be arrested, I think the landscaper may be arrested tomorrow. They are going to need a pretty solid case to get him to flip if she was involved, which it looks clear that she was. Our prosecutors use a grand jury in lieu of a preliminary hearing almost, so I would bet that is going on behind the scenes..”
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To CC
Very possibly, if what if he is holding is his jacket.
Blink says at 6:10 pm:
“To CC
Very possibly, if what if he is holding is his jacket.”
Okay, I’m lost. Trying to find the post by CC so I can make sense of Blink’s response.
Help!
9.Nanc Drewtoo says:
July 9, 2010 at 3:10 pm
Re: a PPD or any other type of “mental state”-based defense, if I were a juror it would be difficult to sell me on that because, based upon the facts of which I am aware from media reports, Terri seemed perfectly able to look after Kiara’s well-being. Was she able to function at normal capacity for one child but not for the other? I would have trouble accepting that, especially since Kyron was the older of the two children and theoretically would require less hands-on care from his parents. At this point, from where I’m standing Terri Horman is in an indefensible position and would be very smart to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth in an attempt to bargain for a lighter sentence. It is really her only hope.
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I agree, she should tell the truth already! but I doubt at this point that she will and it will be left to a jury to decide what really happened.
On another note…I know personally that a mother can care deeply for one child and not for another older and presumably easier to care for child(even when they are both her biological children). I don’t want to turn this into some sob story- just want people to know that it does happen. My own mother I believe suffered from ppd when I was born and refused to acknowledge or go near me for 2 months (when my father finally said he was going to give me to his ex-wife (kind woman) who offered to raise me if my mother didn’t step up to the plate). My mother and father divorced and my mother remarried and had 2 children (my half brother and half sister). My mother was very abusive (physically and verbally) towards me (I was the main outlet for any anger or anxiety she had during those years) but she seemed to genuinely be a doting and loving mother to my half-siblings and as far as I can tell to this day, treated them both very well and thankfully never laid a hand on either of them.
Terri’s daughter is her biological daughter and if Terri truly “always wanted a girl” then I can understand her being a doting parent to that child and not treating her stepson as well. I realize normal well-adjusted people aren’t this way, but there are some people out there who are for whatever reason.
I’m not feeling the ppd in this case….something else perhaps, not sure what..but this is only my own personal opinion.
Gosh B just heart break!
I wondered about KH moving out with the baby, RO, divorce and now forcing her out of the house. I wonder how many of her friends have isolated themselves from her? A neighbor made a very matter of fact statement last night and you could hear the anger in her voice(I posted a link) . If in the end she has nothing at some point she will crack. I wonder if they are trying to push her to this point? If every move that is made is strategic in nature? They need to take her laptop. I’m just sayin’! Tightening of the noose like they have been saying. Is there something to be said for making her appear in court for the removal from the home in July? Do you think that she is still posting online? I have been following a few posters online that I have heard could be her. What are your thoughts on that B?
http://www.kptv.com/video/index.html
I was looking through her photos on FB and I was telling my husband “I just don’t get it something must have happened. You can see when things changed for her so what is it? What happened that caused the snap?” She could have been in the process with the PPD but that was being treated, maybe she didn’t want Kyron anymore and wanted to send him to live with Desiree and Kaine would hear nothing of it. Her son wasn’t getting along with KH so she sent him to live with her parents and she resented KH for that. Whatever the case it seems to me that this plan for poor little Kyron was very premeditated. I think she gave Kyron instruction on what to do and that is how she got him out of that school without anyone noticing. Very sad. It’s time for some closure for this family. I agree with you too B, prayer is needed for them. Its going to be a very hard time when the time comes if the worst is found out.
No doubt she is sick. Not sure what kind of sick but she is one very sick lady.
I feel awful for KH. That people are being so hard on him. I have had times sense June 4th I have not been sure about him but I cannot imagine the amount of guilt he must be feeling that he brought this person into his family’s life. I think that KH is very private and does not want his private life out there and maybe we are reading more into his actions then need be. I think he wants to be respected when he walks down the halls of his job. I think he will share and divulge (from what I have seen and heard so far) anything that will help bring Kyron home. He after all is a victim in this as well. He may have made bad choices in having an affair with the SM if he did and the other possible affair with someone at work, he may have been controlling of his time and money, but we don’t know that for sure any of that is true and it would not justify this kind of punishment.
Maggie_M says:
I’m so sorry! Prayers for you and your Mom.
t.z. says:
July 9, 2010 at 4:38 pm
Hello from Austia and sorry for my not perfect English,
as far as I understood from media reports TH and KH waited for Kyron at the bus stop. When the boy wasn’t on the bus, they phoned the school to learn that Kyron wasn’t there either. Would it not be the next logical step to immediately phone his mother and her husband and ask: “Did you pick Kyron up from school and maybe forgot to coordinate your plans with us? Is he with you?”
I believe I read they phoned DY not before the evening to tell her the boy had gone missing. But maybe I understood it wrong
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Not likely because Kyron’s Biological Mom Desiree lives about a 4-hour drive away. And Desiree confirmed a couple days ago that Terri was supposed to meet-up with Desiree the day Kyron disappeared, so that Desiree could take Kyron to her home for the weekend.
Since that was a regular occurrence (exchanging Kyron for weekend visits), it would be unlikely that Desiree would drive 4 hours to pick Kyron up and the turn around and drive Kyron 4 hours back to her home.
NancyS: never mind. I found it here:
http://www.kptv.com/news/24197226/detail.html
Please, take a look at the ‘type’ of staff involved….
Willamette Week (update):
“Kyron Horman Update: DA’s Expenses Mount in Search for Missing Boy:
http://blogs.wweek.com/news/2010/07/09/kyron-horman-update-das-expenses-mount-in-search-for-missing-boy/
I think every jurisdiction should have to supply those. I betcha it would reduce cold cases by 50%.
B
36.minima says:
July 9, 2010 at 6:00 pm
So, I am confused on this heavy hitter lawyer. Thanks to those that posted the Oregon State Bar requirements…
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oh dear! i didn’t mean this sacastically at all! but realized it certainly sounds that way, sorry! i meant that i was confused and also, i really meant to sincerely thank those that posted that info.
Dad says that Kyron loves to ride the bus – a highlight of his day. Why would THIS day be the day to drive him to school? Why drive the truck to school, instead of the car? To take the exhibit to school? They probably set them up the day before, at the end of the school day. The science fair was set to start at 8 am – not set up then. If daughter wasn’t with them on the trip, why wouldn’t that exhibit fit in the backseat? No baby’s legs to shoehorn it in and around. Why wasn’t the baby with them for this special event? It seems like she was a necessary ornament for attention with TMH and that in itself is odd. All dots that connect to the disappearance of a little boy who didn’t deserve this other than in TMH’s mind.
Someone knows something that will help resolve this case and, unless you want to suffer for years from the mental/physical anguish, you need to call the tip line and give it up. You’ll feel better for it!
7 and a half years would appear to confirm some things.
Effing sad. I am gonna end up heaping this chic on the gallows with the rest of y’all in a minute.
B
I am going to be right there with you, Blink. I believe TH has been like this a long time, and everything I can find about her now raises some flags. I’ve gotten answers to several of my questions going back thru the articles. I just don’t understand how TH is not responsible for her actions, but instead Kaine *is* responsible for them!? Jeez. I really do not get that. Of course, I have little use for those who hurt the most helpless among us, and I can’t just ‘splain their behavior away, but TH was lucid enough to poke people on FB and withhold the truth, she was lucid enough to act of her own accord.
I was afraid someone was going to quote me on that, sorry.
B
I wonder if she had manic tendencies…
Jackie: What does 7 and a half years confirm? That Kaine was already having an affair with Terri while Desiree was pregnant?
My answers so far:
Some of the questions I’d ask are:
1. Does TH have a history of lying? —7.5 years, since DY met her. Good enough for me. Big fat liar.
3. Grandiosity? —Making up syndromes for her resume, and claiming to have a masters sure counts.
6. Does she have a need for stimulation, drama, living on the edge in her life?
—3 marriages, at least 3 affairs, intense body building, drugs… I’m going to go with a most likely.
7. Are her emotions shallow or truly felt?
–Kaine had no idea that she wanted him murdered… and DY said that TH is one of those people you just don’t know what they’re thinking/feeling.
10. Does she have a lack of empathy? True empathy, that is. –She sure hasn’t shown any empathy to Kyron’s family by way of truth, cooperation or communication.
12. Does she “use” others for money, status, etc. –She sure hasn’t been her own breadwinner and each marriage meant a move up the socioeconomic ladder. This is a probably.
–And B, no apologies necessary re: your gallows statement
I liked it. And normally, I’m a non-gallows type of Bauer.
beejay says:
July 9, 2010 at 7:04 pm
Jackie: What does 7 and a half years confirm? That Kaine was already having an affair with Terri while Desiree was pregnant?
It confirms she’s a big fat liar. Desiree said she’d never known her to tell the truth in 7.5 years. That’s symptomatic of big fat pathological liar and a BIG YES on the ASPD/sociopath list.
Beejay, I summarized three statement somewhere on the comments made by DY that pretty much say “affair” without saying it. I can find them and reference the dates/links if you want to read them.
Just had a thought about whether or not Terri had the baby at the school. It’s been said that she took the truck. Does anyone know what kind of cab the truck has? A baby should be in a carseat in the back seat. Kyron probably would have been in the front seat. Was there seating in the truck for all three of them?
Futureman: I appreciate your sense of humor. It’s refreshing to read in the midst of all this horror.
Minima,
I have to say that I am often taken by your posts. Your exposition on Th’s predictament was particulilary well reasoned. I understand your supporting work and am sorry you been living through that. I hope that your perspective will increase and gain value in time.
One valuable resource is lovefraud.com, both as a community and as an information source. I haven’t had direct need of it, but I find it very well-versed in the serpentine world of sociopathy.
WG
minima says:
July 9, 2010 at 2:58 pm
OH K now in the link and interview that beejay provided, Desiree says that Teri told her that she didn’t even walk in the classroom and that she just watched Kyron walk down the hall…now you all tell me WHERE DID THAT PICTURE COME FROM? did this poor baby make it to school that day at all? I think NOT!
‘post partem’ notion might help persuade the lawyer and TH to reveal something to bring Kyron home. That would be good for everyone involved, not in the least, TH herself if she had ANY role in this at all. Whether it’s true or not, just help her reveal what she knows and who else, if anyone, is involved, especially let her use this excuse whether it’s valid or not, just to bring the child home.
But are there other reasons that changes were seen after the birth of her daughter, that is a child tied to both parents, not just ‘the other person’, the baby is part of her. What if TH is ‘erasing’ her family, but with the birth of ‘her’ baby, this might not be as easy as if only other people, Kaine and his son. After the birth of the baby daughter, Terri was now in a different position than just a step mother/wife. Another level of responsibility, can’t as easily walk away.
This link below has photos of Kyron w/Tony, Kyron w/Kaine, Kyron w/step brother J, and other photos of Kyron,
KPTV 12 (Portland)
http://www.kptv.com/slideshow/news/23822528/detail.html
OK Blink – I am going to come right out and ask it: alleged affairs of TH + KH in last couple of years: truth or fiction? Who has the answer?
I reported what I am going to report and I have no clue why y’all even care anymore.
B
I just do not understand why some people think TH may still be innocent? ReallY? What is your logic?
Does an innocent person fail 2 polygraphs?
Does an innocent person stop 1 polygraph in the middle and request an attorney?
Does an innocent person let the 5 day period keeping her from her daughter keep on going without a debate?
Does an innocent person refuse to talk with investigators?
I am an innocent person, so I can tell you that if someone wanted to come knocking on my door and do all of these things to make sure I don’t have Kyron, I would do them, without a blink of an eye. I would talk to as many investigators as it would take. I would take hundreds of polygraphs. And I certainly would not let someone take my children without putting up a fight!
@Muse says:
July 9, 2010 at 4:53 pm
re:
These are not the characteristics of someone currently suffering from PPD. It is conscious, deliberate, and calculated behavior. She’s reminding me more and more of Casey Anthony, Scott Peterson and dozens of other killers who lack conscience. Personally, I believe anyone who can take a life, especially those of innocent children, suffer from some wiring gone wrong. But these people are generally high-functioning otherwise and we rarely see an Andrea Yates-type disorder. There are people walking this planet that have dark souls. Call it evil, call it mental illness, they are still culpable and I don’t consider it a mitigating factor.
COPY THAT.
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Does anyone have a link to today’s HLN Natisha Lance interview? I don’t know what’s wrong with my googleability today but I just can’t find the link.
Kaine Horman: Kyron’s Stepmom Walked Out on Polygraph (With Audio Clip)
http://blogs.wweek.com/news/2010/07/09/kaine-horman-kyrons-stepmom-walked-out-on-polygraph/
Kaine Horman, father of 7-year-old Kyron Horman, tells WW the missing boy’s stepmom walked out of her second polygraph test before investigators even began asking questions.
“The first red flag is failed test. Second red flag is walking out in the middle of the second one. And the third red flag is, I’m going to fight law enforcement as long as I possibly can to absolutely refuse to take a polygraph,” he said. “After 10 days, she finally breaks down, goes back, takes another one, and she fails.”
some interesting excerpts from seamus’ blog…
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/
http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2010/07/is-kyron-alive-kyron-horman-family.html
Was the “report(s)” of the red Mustang and white truck racing on SI actually confirmed by LE? Does anyone know or have a link? Because unless they have another vehicle, if TH drove Kyron to school in the truck, Kaine would have taken the Mustang to work that morning – how could it then be seen driving at a high rate of speed on SI?? Not putting any blame towards Kaine – that “reported” incident has really been bothering me, so if anyone could shed light on that I would truly appreciate it.
Kind of OT, but my 5 yr old asks about Kyron because she knows he is my FB picture because he is missing and because I spend so much time reading here daily. She came in the room while I was watching the report on HLN today and asked if they found him. I told her no, but they are still looking. She said, “well, if they haven’t found him by now, probably one of the people who is looking for him is who took him.” Out of the mouths of babes…
OT:
Blink
Hope you are feeling well. Maybe the heat is over… we hope! NE has been like hell.
How’s your head?
WSH
Better than my lawn, WSH.
Lol. Depends who you ask these days.. Great to see you. I knew Kyron’s case would get your gears turning.
B
OK BLINK!! No fair! You are getting annoyed with other people who take us off the track and you are doing the same thing with the CC reply about “not unless he’s holding his jacket.” WHAT? I spent about 20 minutes trying to find that. Can you please clarify what you are talking about? Throw us all one little bone here….
There are times when people post to me privately, I need that to vet leads, I need people to know they can trust me to maintain their privacy. That’s the way it is, not meant to annoy.
B
Wow you have destroyed me with that photo of Kyron holding the stuffed animal…little children are so sweet and innocent. I’m afraid he’s gone. Who would be taking care of him at this point? And there doesn’t seem to be the sense of urgency you would expect with looking for a “live victim” vs. looking for one that you know is already gone. I hope I’m wrong, that would be so incredible. But I don’t think I am, sadly. What’s weird here is this: if TH did something to Kyron, how much time did she have to thoroughly hide him so he wouldn’t be found? I mean, how good was she at this? She would have to have driven around and searched and really plotted this out for quite some time to find the perfect place. Again, if this is the case I would think she would drive to SI and leave her cell phone there somewhere, drive somewhere else with Kyron, then go back and get the cell phone. She probably knows all about cell phone pings.
Anybody hear anything about the surveillance video from 2 stores in Hillsboro? Waiting for a scoop on that. They’re talking about it on insession.
RE: 34.SGS says:
July 9, 2010 at 6:00 pm
Thank you for this information re: insanity vs. mental illness. Would be interesting to learn more about that and how the law defines “insanity”…would that be schizophrenia?
If TH is indeed psychopathic, it seems she would only truly help the investigation if doing so helped herself. I don’t think in that case that pleas from anyone would move her. Hopefully the desire to see her little girl and/or to avoid the ultimate penalty will result in her telling what she knows.
From an earlier post:
46.cher says:
July 9, 2010 at 2:06 pm
From the start you didnt think the stepmother was involved !
Now we know she is …
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We ***KNOW*** she is? Without a single shred of evidence tying her to the poor child’s disappearance?
And one more thing: birthmom says TH has lied for the seven and a half years she’s known her, and that when she got the call about Kyron’s disappearance she suspected TH from the start. Naturally, no one in the “press” conference bothered to ask for an example of prior lies … or bothered to ask this:
“If you felt she had lied for the entire time you knew her, if you had these bad feelings about her … why in God’s name did you let her care for your child, your flesh-and-blood, for all those years? Why did you never once go to a judge and say, This woman’s bad news, she shouldn’t have my child, I want custody NOW’.”
Look folks, I agree that certain behaviors surrounding TH are very suspicious, and if evidence suggests that she did it I will be the first to call for her head. I have a young child myself, FGS. But these strange behaviors are not evidence. She could very well be acting the way she is because of her involvement in the MFH thing.
Meanwhile, there’s a pedophile who’s just beaming from his good fortune. The one who learned of the school’s science fair through the Internet or school signage and knew it was a day he could enter unnoticed and lure a child away without fanfare: “Tree frogs! Wow, I know where we can find some. Hop in the car, it’s just a short drive.”
Oh, wait, sorry. LE has said they have no evidence this was a stranger abduction.
What a coincidence. They also have no evidence that TH did it, even after searching every nook and cranny of her life for over a month.
Just read some comments from HopeInVa on the oregonlive.com blog. Anyone know anything about the Phyllis that Kaine has supposedly conceived with or “knocked up” as Hope says? Also, Hope does not like Blink. Makes you wonder if the info here hits a little close to home.
mem,
Your post is well written and you make a good point that Terri could be acting suspicious because she was worried about the MFH plot, not necessarily the fact the Kyron was missing. IMO, LE has more evidence than they are sharing. I believe Blinks assumption is correct – they are convening a grand jury right now. It could be for Kyron or the MFH or both. Either way, Terri’s in a lot of trouble. IMO, the way she was looking at Desiree and acting at the first press conference was due to the fact that she was involved in Kyrons disappearance. I honestly think that she never thought anyone would find out about the MFH. JMHO.
“Kaine Horman said there was never any indication that his wife had negative feelings toward Kyron, although he revealed in an earlier interview with The Oregonian that his wife was on medication for postpartum depression after Kiara was born” quoated from…
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/kyron_hormans_mother_recalls_d.html
there you go the reason for the fast weight gain, in my opinion…
http://www.katu.com/news/local/98146889.html?tab=video
Just saw this, and I’m sharing. I did read about the videos from the two stores.
And I’ve been “going to do this” for days now, since I found out what “hardscaper” was, but I finally looked it up, several sites, and yes, SAR dogs can smell thru several feet of concrete.
I think it is interesting the difference in how Desiree and Kaine viewed Terri. Kaine expressing disbelief that he had no inkling until the PPD diagnosis that Terri had any issues.(IMHO Terri has always been off but PPD tipped the scales) Desiree clearly had a clue. She looked great and it was good to see her move to anger as it is part of the healing process. The MAMA BEAR HAS ARRIVED… I did cringe when Kaine mentioned getting the house back so Kyron could come home to a stable environment. If I were Desiree I would get a lawyer on THAT just in case. Kyron clearly wasn’t safe in the home Kaine provided…taking into consideration that the decisions he makes are not conducive to having custody of a child. Not knowing all of the family dynamics but I find it interesting that the older boy was sent from the home….it should have been Kyron back to Desiree. The decisions and conduct since her divorce from Kaine seem to be more stable and well thought out…but who really knows. Not Kaine bashing but he was responsible for his son’s safety. He seems to have a lot to learn about healthy decision making. That Desiree immediately suspected Terri says that the situation had a lot more signs than are being disclosed at this time.
Did anyone else notice how in yesterday’s press conference Desiree has started to use the past tense in some of her sentences when talking about Kyron? She didn’t do that in her previous interviews. I wondered if subconsiously she is starting to entertain the idea that Kyron isn’t returning at this point… my heart goes out to her
Why would the landscaper be arrested? Maybe he was remiss in not reporting the MFH offer initially, but hasn’t he cooperated fully and “flipped” on TH since Kyron’s disappearance? If I was TH’s attorney, I’d insist she keeps her mouth shut. If Kyron is never found, it would be an uphill battle to get enough for an arrest let alone a conviction. OTOH, I’d also be shopping for the best expert-for-hire in post-partum depression, in case Kyron does show up. Blink, have you tried calling the renowned experts in the field to see if they were contacted by her attorney?
http://www.katu.com/news/local/98146889.html?tab=video
reporter tries to get answers from Terri in parking garage.
Video of Terri doing what she does best – not saying a word when questioned about Kyron:
http://www.katu.com/news/98146889.html?tab=video
Is Kaine unable/not allowed to go to the home? It is in his name and were he there and the police were to show up, given the RO and him being the owner, wouldn’t TH have to leave? Why must he wait until the 22nd to find out if he and his daughter can return to HIS house?
A good friend and I visited the wall of hope today. First, we visited a nearby lavender farm and each cut a bunch to attach to the fence. Lavender aroma calms and comforts – even the bees in the plants were relaxed as we cut the stems. Purple is the color of hope and wisdom and my wish is that both prevail.
Since Blink says Terri reads here, the rest is to her:
Terri,
I came to Blink’s site because I heard she was not convinced that you did anything to Kyron. I needed a break from the pitchfork wielding mob, who just knew the moment they saw you that you did this. In my heart, I couldn’t believe that a fellow reading teacher and mom could hurt a child. As a teacher I’ve dealt with the student who thinks his friend’s laughter is more important than your disapproval. As the parent of a bright, sensitive child, I’ve often felt the job was too big, there was too much to protect him from. But I’ve carried on because they need me and I believed in my heart you would have too.
Terri, my sense of logic is winning the fight with my heart at this point. Your mother, knew too much about the procedure of the science fair that day and the possibilities for the school to lose Kyron. Obviously, she hangs on your every word. In her comments to your facebook photos she lovingly encouraged Kyron. Kyron and your dad appear from their smiles to love each other in the photo of the two of them. But Terri, they love you more. You are their own child. They have supported you through this whole ordeal. Don’t continue to dishonor your parents like this. Lean on them for strength if you need to, but don’t continue to betray their trust. You are an intelligent person, you know the truth will come out. If you got messed up with a scary, desperate dude. divulge this information. You can pull yourself together and help find Kyron. Do it before any more grief and embarrassment comes to the Moulton family.
mem says:
July 9, 2010 at 8:52 pm
“If you felt she had lied for the entire time you knew her, if you had these bad feelings about her … why in God’s name did you let her care for your child, your flesh-and-blood, for all those years? Why did you never once go to a judge and say, This woman’s bad news, she shouldn’t have my child, I want custody NOW’.”
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I had the same thought. If I for one minute thought the person caring for my child was not a good person, and potentially dangerous, there is no way I would allow that to continue. I would do anything to remove them from that situation. My understanding is that Kyron only spent every other weekend with the Youngs. that means 26 days of the month, the primary caregiver for your son is someone you thought had the potential to harm him. And then you allowed that scary person to drive him 2 hours every other week to see you. Sorry that makes no sense to me. I wonder how much of this distrust stems from hindsight — and guilt that Desiree didn’t see the threat coming.
I also don’t understand this rage at Terri for breaking up Kaine and Desiree’s marriage. Everyone is ranting about how TH did it once, she’ll do it again. But, if they had an affair, Kaine was the one who was married with a pregnant wife. He was the one who made a vow. for heaven’s sake, if Kaine kept his pants zipped, none of this would be happening. I am not excusing TH but KH is just as culpable if an affair happened. And if he did have an affair, that makes him just as untrustworthy in his relationships.
I am not defending TH. I am not accusing anyone. I am simply saying that when it comes to the ‘alleged’ affair, it is not fair to place all the blame on TH. Affairs require two willing participants.
Blink, how come my post got deleted? I asked if you knew how LE found the landscaper.
Did not, unfortunately, I sometimes cannot answer every post, and if it is in an article already or in the comments several times, I ask that readers try to search it out so we are not repetitive but progressive.
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Terri H today,leaving an office with person working for her lawyer.Not really good in hiding her face from the camera… (Video from KATU)
http://www.katu.com/news/local/98146889.html?tab=video
Sal: Thanks for the link. I read it but haven’t listened to Kaine yet. But, geez, Terri was really struggling and frustrated, trying to figure out why she couldn’t pass the test (freaks my niece, a teacher out when she messes up on any kind of test, too).
Sociopaths can do well on polygraphs. Or at least be smoother around family and friends about their failure. TH was running her mouth, getting upset. Much more “normal” than the plotting character disorder a lot of folks see her to be.
I’d like to know when her affair with her lover-LS ended? Or was it still ongoing on June 4? Suppose LS had a third person take Kyron, and kept Terri busy with the flowerbeds, so to speak? That would be a perfect way to mess with her mind if their romance was rocky and he wanted to be really vindictive, knowing he was losing her anyhow. Now that would be sociopathic! And someone who could do that might just pass a lie detector test. And then, when LE nabbed him, perhaps with some evidence tying him to Kyron, LS decides to go it one better by implicating her in the MFH scheme, which might have been his own fabrication.
As much as I empathize with Desiree’s anger, her casting Terri as a habitual liar might also be somewhat tainted by the history of the Terri-Kaine relationship and its timing. And jealousy that Terri has D’s bio son most of the time, and her former husband as well. D. is a class act, possibly not a saint.
from european view – we see completely different attitude and outcome
Elaine – sorry european!!
Now what does Terry have in that backpack in video of her being followed by the news guy. Lets guess, pictures to sell maybe. Geez