Kyron Horman Missing and Endangered: Kaine Horman Points A Finger Directly At Terri Horman
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“I believe respondent (Terri) is involved in the disappearance of my son Kyron who has been missing since June 4, 2010”
The grim words of Kaine Horman as they appeared in the restraining order filed against his estranged wife, Terri Moulton Horman, were unsealed yesterday.
It was the start of developments beginning to weave a portrait of Terri Horman, from the eyes of her husband and Kyron Horman’s biological Mother, Desiree Young.
“I thought the marriage was doing pretty well,” Kaine Horman said during a one-on-one interview with The Oregonian, “until we had our daughter, Kiara.”
Declining to elaborate, rumors of Terri Horman suffering from bouts of post partum depression following the birth of the couples 19 month old daughter have been swirling since the case began.
Yesterday’s press conference with Kyron’s parents, Kaine and Desiree left no doubt they believe Terri is involved with Kyron’s disappearance, and confirmed what has been reported exclusively on blinkoncrime.com previously:Terri Horman failed both polygraph tests administered during the investigation.
“I have known Terri a long time, and I know she is lying.” She went on to say she had her suspicions from the onset of the phone call she received alerting her that Kyron was missing.
Curiously, famed Portland attorney Stephen Houze, retained by Terri Horman June 28th, known for his Public*Relations*Prowess, would not comment on the divorce, custody, or criminal investigation involving his client.
Although Terri Horman had 5 days to respond to object to the restraining order which denies her any visitation with the couples daughter, there was no response filed on her behalf in family court.
It is this editors opinion that was a calculated move on her part NOT to have to answer to the allegations of Kaine’s petition which could then be used against her in a criminal proceeding.
Last evening, an amendment was filed to the restraining order to force Terri Horman from the marital residence, which was purchased in Kaine Horman’s name in December 2006.
Speaking to blinkoncrime.com on the condition of anonymity, sources inside the investigation have confirmed that the detectives sting on the grounds of the Horman home, where a landscaper believed to have been in a romantic relationship with Terri Horman requested $10,000 for an alleged murder for hire plot, may have impeded the investigation.
“The climate was one where their hand was forced. They had the guy saying one thing, and when they said “prove it”, they felt they would be arresting her on at least the solicitation charge.
Did it backfire? Uh, yes, in a way, because for one– nobody gets paid ten grand for killing a live guy.. For two, she did not flinch, and between the two of them at the time she called 911, she looked more credible. It was an uncomfortable situation for detectives to have to explain to the patrol.
I think they are desperate to resolve this case, but I do not think Terri will be the first to be arrested, I think the landscaper may be arrested tomorrow. They are going to need a pretty solid case to get him to flip if she was involved, which it looks clear that she was. Our prosecutors use a grand jury in lieu of a preliminary hearing almost, so I would bet that is going on behind the scenes..”
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The Seattle stations have ramped up their coverage of the case and covered the parking garage attempt by a KATU reporter, to get a response from Terri.
Blink, heard your SMR spot last evening, thanks for pointing out the time so I could skip to it. Good work as usual.
If there was ‘help’ from someone in the child not returning home from school, then it’s possible that person or people will be taking steps to protect themselves and to make contact with Terri somehow? Threats to stay quiet?
@oblio: You are confused. My comment was about the scene at Kaine Horman’s home when High**Powered**Attorney opened the gate to the residence (owned by Kaine Horman) and shooed away reporters with the comment “this is private property”. Implying that he and Ms. Hormone had rights to the property and the reporters had better keep away because of T.Hormones property rights. T Hormone has no claim to that property, it is ino Kaine Homran, only.
My comment was to the effect that Ms. Hormone seems to have no ownership interest in the property, and H*P*A was out of line in dismissing reporters with a statement that implied that Thormone had any property rights at that residence whatsoever.
For the record, oblio, I did not express a comment about the reporter in the garage and any statement by High*Powered*Attorney. But I will say that personally I do not think that T Hormone looked very ‘motherly’, or concerned about Kyron, in that exchange.
Now as to the incendiary nature of this case, I can speculate that because of the rules of human decency, especially as concerned with children, we expect people who take care of them to have more than a passing interest in their well-being, and especially when something goes wrong, we expect the primary caregiver, mom, stepmom, or whomever, to have an active role in locating the child. This case shows that when the primary mom, step-mom, etc does not seem interested in sacrificing her interests, whatever they may be, for the location of the child, we can suspect something is terribly wrong.
As in many of Shakespeare’s tragedies, which revolve around the sickening theme of parents killing children, it is an archetypical taboo. That is why this case has inflamed mothers, fathers, everywhere, who understand the code, that is, put finding the child above your personal interest.
When T Hormone deviated from that standard expectation, you saw the public disgust with her behavior. And that is what you are seeing now, not in evidence per se, that will come. It is detailed in the telling sign of a mother/caregiver who puts her silence in saving face and possibly concealing a crime, above finding her child.
In nature that does not happen.
The public abhors a child killer, especially when it is a parent with a sinister motive.
This is the greatest taboo that is possible in the human experience.
marlene says:
July 10, 2010 at 4:17 pm
mahotchki says:
July 10, 2010 at 1:15 pm
Additionally, the interpretation of the “garage” exchange has included adjectives for behavior that I simply did not see. What I saw was TH and unnamed woman calmly navigating their way to the elevator. I also did not detect any humor on the part of the unnamed woman as someone commented.
I was the person who said I felt it looked as if she thought it was humorous. When I watched the video at one point after they had entered into the glassed enclosure, it appeared to me that the other woman was smirky smiling (my own made up words) and as I stated in my previous post …jmo…just my opinion…..I am sure there will be others that agree with your insights, but I thought it was ok to voice mine
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Actually, I am the one that initiated the humorous post. I said it b/c I meant it. I just think it was a release for me. Five weeks and counting, and the most wanted woman in Oregon and beyond made an appearance. Guilty or not, noone is more wanted on camera and mic than her. With all the upset and heartbreak surrounding her role in this sad saga, and not a peep. I felt she would have climbed up that other woman’s dress if she could have. JMO. Thanks marlene and mahotchki for sharing your views as well. I didn’t intend to offend anyone.
Twinkletoes – I’m on your page re: karma. I believe we are all on the same path, and given the gift of free will and choice. With that always comes consequences. Darkness frequently goes undetected because it loves to remain hidden. For people that have found their way, their task is to become light bearers and boddhis to reveal the darkness and send it on its way to the healing. LOL at the inner Buddha comment. I pray Terri and others like her feel the compelling nature of what is true and right and joins us on this path. Saidly, yes, there are so many others out there and that’s why we cannot rest.
Kaylee – loved your gift of lavender. A great healer.
WordGirl – thanks for your comments. In snipping the ABC article, I didn’t know of some of Captain Jensen’s background. I still found his assessment of TH very telling and on point.
JackieBauer – I LOL’d at your expression “googleability”!
Please, let’s see a break in this case. For Kyron, I know wherever he is, he is uplifted by light and all that is good and pure.
Kleat says: “…If there was ‘help’ from someone in the child not returning home from school, then it’s possible that person or people will be taking steps to protect themselves and to make contact with Terri somehow?…”
Whoa! Maybe LS did just that with a fabricated MFH accusation, knowing that LE would inform Terri of it. I.e., LS saw an opportunity to send a threat to TH without any further risk to himself (TH being unapproachable at that/this time due to surveillance).
@ susan says:
July 10, 2010 at 5:44 pm
According to this link :
http://www.divorcesource.com/info/divorcelaws/oregon.shtml
snip:
Property Distribution: Since Oregon is an “equitable distribution” state, the marital property shall be divided in an equitable fashion. Equitable does not mean equal, but rather what is fair. The court will encourage the parties to reach a settlement on property and debt issues otherwise the court will declare the property award.
Perhaps that is why TH’s attorney could make that statement about keeping off the property & actually he just said ‘this is private property’ which is correct it is he just didn’t say who the private property belonged to..
Does anyone know if Terri ever tried to get a teaching position at Skyline? Because of her DUI was she unable to teach for a certain period of time?
Another Willamette Week story:
http://blogs.wweek.com/news/2010/07/10/kyrons-parents-describe-web-of-deception-from-stepmom/
Posted on Diff thread by lily
B
A few things brought to light recently in this case have reminded me some dark times in my family’s past.
I know I’ve shared this before, so I’ll try to be brief. My father-in-law was murdered in a home invasion robbery. A young mentally disabled, destitute couple thought my in-laws would be rich because they lived in a nice house. The woman feigned car trouble and when the door was cracked open, they burst in the house. My FIL was shot once in the chest and while the perp was reloading his gun, my MIL was able to get away to the neighbors. Subsequently, my FIL was shot in the head. The two were caught three days later 30 miles away.
http://www.koinlocal6.com/content/mediacenter/default.aspx?videoId=17140@koin.web.entriq.net&navCatId=156
Yesterday, the owner of Extreme Edge gave an account of Terri’s behavior, especially that she had not acknowledged the community’s help or thanked them. Trauma affected my mother-in-law the same way. She was completely innocent and still she seemed unappreciative of anything done for her. Instead, she criticized family members for not doing enough, and not realizing what she needed. After the first day, she refused to speak to the detectives without my sister-in-law, an attorney, present. She argued with LE over every point. Even though there was nothing to hide, she forbade any of us from speaking to the media. My husband was the first to be interviewed in the family and he didn’t talk to our local paper until several years later.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/07/09/earlyshow/main6661166.shtml
In the above interview, Desiree states “I can tell you what I ate that day and she can’t you where she was.” Maybe she really can’t. From my own experience, my mind goes hazy when I’m stressed. It pains me that I cannot fully remember my wedding, the births of my children or my daughters’ graduation party. They were so stressful to me that the memories are very dark. Admittedly, I am traumatized easily (fluorescent lighting sends me into another realm), but I would have surely disassociated from the shock of my child not being on the bus. In a KATU reader’s comment, RDSQRL comments about “the stress, the worry, the pain.” Interestingly, stress was the first factor listed.
And if she could remember all the details of that fateful day, would they be accurate? Eye witness accounts are unreliable. http://agora.stanford.edu/sjls/Issue%20One/fisher&tversky.htm
An example of this came out during the trial for my FIL’s murder. The defense attorney was trying to convince the jury that there was no premeditation, partly because the killer was startled by the loud burglar alarm sounding in the house. His girlfriend testified that it scared the crap out of her. But my mother-in-law insists that it didn’t go off. Even the security company confirmed that it received an alarm notice, which wouldn’t have been sent without the alarm going off. Still my MIL maintained vehemently that it didn’t sound; she caught it in time. The defense attorney said he didn’t understand why she would lie about this detail. There was no reason for it. I don’t know how this would register on a LDT. Would the body know it was a lie, even if the conscious mind doesn’t?
Lastly, the owner of the gym says that the way Terri would look past them was creepy. My MIL did that too. She was seeing over and over in her mind what happened to her husband of 30 years. I think Terri saw something bad (even effin’ bad) go down that day and hasn’t come to terms with it. To me, at the first presser and in the garage video, she looks like she’s seen a ghost. From the following article on PTSD: “This can present at times as glazed unfocused eyes with the “thousand yard stare” off into nowhere. They do not exhibit normal behaviors such as turning towards you when spoken to or reflexive moments to sound or motion.”
http://drkisling.com/tag/post-traumatic-stress-syndrome/
Kaylee-
first, my sincere apologies on your loss. Oddly, I do believe I am familiar with your FIL’s case.
I mean no disrespect whatsoever in asking this question, but did your FIL have a sizable life insurance policy and were any connections of the perps to your MIL ruled out?
Sorry, occupational hazard.
B
Kaylee: thank you for what you shared. It strikes a chord with me in terms of Terri. In one of the still photos of her at the PC where she clung to Desiree, I saw her suddenly look very small, eyes bulging, clinging (NOT supporting Desiree, but hanging onto her) and she looked like a small, frightened child.
Haven’t been able to shake that while everyone else seemingly noticed only Desiree’s discomfort with the unwanted contact. I spent a professional lifetime working in mental health, ran a residential psychiatric tx program for awhile for disturbed kids–some also abused, neglected, etc. So, it’s a look that I’ve seen so often. I never wanted to risk saying that here before, didn’t want to try to defend it.
So, thanks for the release I feel having said it. Shock and fear. It feels so familiar to me now.
Thank you to the posters who understood my post. As far as the reporter goes, I admire him for trying. Kyron is gone. He was asking for any information, so if one watches that video and considers him a “Bottom Feeder” I’ll gladly offer the food. Kyron needs to be found and returned home. I wonder if it were their own “child” would they consider the reporter in this light? Probably not. Guess you don’t know how you look til you get your own picture took.
The Garage video gave us real insight into the mindset and stance Terri and her counsel are taking concerning Kyron, for that’s all the reporter was asking about, Kyron. Kyron deserved an answer of at least acknowledgement that you were approached concerning the child.
“When the elephants fight, the grass suffers”. Children have no voice or say. Their helpless. Whose gonna love the Babies? We wanted them. Star gazed in love with our lovers. Had the relations to make them with such high hopes for the futures full of colorful dreams. Lo and Behold, God the Father granted the “Life” we all wanted to bring forth to become Mothers and Fathers. For every person who ever wanted to bring forth children, my hugs and adoration. KL
Kaylee says:
July 10, 2010 at 7:42 pm
I’m so sorry for the tragedy that affected you all so deeply. What an eye opening comment. Many of us not having experienced anything as gut wrenching would have no idea of how actions can shift after such an event and be misinterpreted.
39.marlene says:
July 10, 2010 at 6:48 am
marlene: re the garage video, I agree with you. I’ve tried to remain objective, considering TH’s possible innocence as well as possible guilt. But the silence is very disturbing! I could understand someone who has been falsely accused and demonized by family and the public going into withdrawal (I’m sure that’s what I would do), but how difficult is it to answer a simple question. If TH were innocent, why not say, “No, I don’t know where Kyron is, but we are working with LE to try to determine his whereabouts”?
Kaylee -
Wow … what a story, indeed. I have a friend whose family (mother, father, brother) narrowly escaped being killed in a home invasion. The intruder made but one mistake, and the brother (an adult) was able to take advantage.
I so appreciate your post. I hope we all use great caution when making assumptions about people (good or bad) based on distant (media-filtered) observations.
I hope your family has healed as it can.
@ Kaylee says:
July 10, 2010 at 7:42 pm
I too wish to extend my apologies for your loss & for having the ability to share it openly..
As with your description of TH I had said the same thing in a prior comment on another site but just in a different way; its as if her body is there but her mind is off somewhere else almost in a panic state & looking for some type of comfort.. She doesn’t seem to be aware of her surroundings at that first TV presser.. I had thought perhaps something had just happened that brought back a bad past experience she was almost trance like..
I just absolutely disagree that Terri cannot remember her whereabouts the day Kyron was missing – she would have been immediately interviewed by LE. She has an 18 month old to account for. There’s no way you can’t remember what you did from the time you dropped Kyron off at school until at least the time you see Kaine. Especially when LE can help your memory along b/c of cell phone pings. That’s not stress, that’s deception. Guess what – it’s only inadmissible if the govt beats it out of you, not if a private person does. That’s how little I think of this woman. There is obviously ALOT in this story we don’t know about – especially if in DY’s first phone call to Terri she tells her she better not have done anything to Kyron. Not a typical reaction. I’m sure we’ll learn more later. In the meantime, TH is watching all of this fanfare with tremendous amusement – she is so in control watching all the little people writhing in pain, with no regard whatsoever for Kyron. And she loves this fanfare – she likes to be watched – only a narcissist like that would comment on a blog about her case! It’s sickening. Her memory is not impaired b/c of stress, it’s just plain deceit. I’m disgusted by her atty at this point and please don’t lecture me about due process – I know all about it. It doesn’t make the fact that this vulnerable, innocent pawn in Terri’s sick game is out there somewhere he shouldn’t be…confused, afraid, abused, or worse. TH can live in whatever fantasy land fits her – but in my world tricking or harming a 7 yr old with poor eyesight doesn’t make you much of a master criminal, just a coward and bully. I hope that soon she’ll get to permanently hang out with some ladies of her own size and see how she fares then. I get the feeling that Desiree Young crying on television is pretty satisfying for TH. The death penalty is too good for her. Sorry if this is to mean, but after five weeks of her play acting…I’ve had enough.
“But, I do agree with you, Pickle, that Kaine’s plans for afterschool on June 4th sound a bit too involved for a child who is headed for a 3-4 hour trip that day.
I assume a Terri miscommunication to Kaine; but that’s just me.”
Annals & Pickle: I believe the distance between Portland and Medford is a 4-hour drive. TH & DY would meet half-way, so it was really only a 2-hour drive for TH. That, I suppose, would leave some time for KH to spend with Ky prior to the trip.
[...] video where the bio parents of missing Kyron Horman have toward Terri Horman was in some way responsible or complicit in the disappearance. Kaine Horman said there is little doubt that his estranged wife [...]
@Kaylee: I’m sorry that you lost your FIL, and to such brutal circumstances. <<<>>> from across the miles.
You may definitely be right about this: “I think Terri saw something bad (even effin’ bad) go down that day and hasn’t come to terms with it. ” I hope not for Kyron’s sake, however, but you may be right.
I also checked the PTSD link you shared (ty, interesting). It sounds like TH was fully aware much of the time (poking on FB, worrying about her hair foils, going to the gym, etc) so what I wonder is if PTSD would come and go so quickly? I have watched too many Hollywood movies, but I thought something specific set it off, and I’m not clear on the come and go aspects of it. Do you know?
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Interesting to note that Desiree now goes on record saying that TH is lying about how she met Kaine. No surprise, but another piece in the puzzle verified. Also, the “lies large and small”, not a good indicator of TH character, but a checkmark in the ASPD column.
Blink: These words “dropped him off” are bugging the hell out of me, and I don’t know why. Newest theory: the words “dropped off” are commonly paired with “picked up”. I don’t know if “dropped him off” was chosen specifically by LE for Kyron to use, or if the choice was that microsecond verbal response that tells us something more based on the words chosen, but I tend to think that the latter is the case. Because of info KH & DY have from LE, they may know that TH did not leave the school with Kyron, so they know she “dropped him off” and someone else was there to “pick him up”. These words are really bugging me, and I’d love to know why.
@Kaylee : should say HUGS from across the miles
Kaylee, Excellent points. I am very sorry for your loss. Your story is very helpful here.
Kaine has also revealed that Terri failed the polygraph tests during the investigation and that she shared the news of the tests with a room full of people.
“She would vent about the failure, talk about what she failed on, go into great detail about how she felt about it, and that happened multiple times,” Kaine said.
For any “newbies,” I found a link of all of the news releases that Multnomah County Sheriff Office (MCSO) has released of Kryon’s disappearance.
http://www.mcso.us/public/newsroom.htm
Kaylee-
My condolences; I can’t imagine. I, too, seem to get caught in a sort of encompassing fog under great stress, so it was easy for me to understand what you were saying. While I am not convinced that this is the case with TH, (we can’t truly be convinced of anything without facts) I really think that your insight is important. Your sharing that was very valuable, nothing like that has been shared on here that I have seen. And I think the way you put it, maybe TH saw something (that she pressumably feels responsible for) that was horrific and she can’t come to terms with it herself, well, that makes a lot of sense. And my mind has been opened to that as a viable possibility. The way in which you shared that was just really eye opening. Perhaps it’s not that she’s keeping it from everyone else, but she’s keeping it from herself. Very possible. Especially coupled with the fact that Blink doesn’t believe that she took Kyron from the school and the MFH plot.
Blink,
The MCSO’s website currently shows and individual that is being held as a “material witness.” I know it could be for any number of crimes, but “what if?”
Name please- How else could I verify?
B
http://wowktv.com/story.cfm?func=viewstory&storyid=82691
Charleston, West Virginia – a possible siting???
I don’t know if anyone else noticed a certain comment in this interview:
http://news.yahoo.com/video/us-15749625/20801996
I thought I remembered KH making the comment, but it was DY. She said it was her understanding that TH would be participating in the science fair until 10:00. My understanding is that the SF was open to parents & the public until 9:00; then, students were divided into goups in their classrooms to tour the SF until 10:00.
There is definitely a conflict of information here: either TH 1) volunteered to act as a monitor/escort at the SF; in which case, the question again is “where was Kiara?” I thought at the beginning of the investigation, it was determined that TH left Kiara with a baby-sitter. Since this was questioned so often, though, I began to wonder if Kiara was left outside in the truck. Half to one hour is too long to leave a toddler in a vehicle unattended. Certainly TH didn’t intend to leave Kiara in there for TWO HOURS, so it’s doubtful TH took Kiara with her to the school. 2) deceived Desiree into believing she would be helping at the SF. Maybe TH was peeved, as some have suggested, that she was not hired as a teacher at the school (b/c of DUI?) and wanted DY to think she was more involved at the school than she really was? Obviously, she was not involved with the student groups since she reported leaving at 8:45.
BTW: I’m very impressed that DY knew what was going on at the school despite living 4 hours away. In another interview, she said she was familiar with the layout of the school. She is NO deadbeat/ disinterested mom!
Do you think this alleged sighting holds any weight? I sure hope so, if it means Kyron is still alive….
http://wowktv.com/story.cfm?func=viewstory&storyid=82691
In the last few days, the media keeps playing this clip of the press conference with all 4 parents and there is a shot where Terri looks directly into the camera. I now find it very chilling. Knowing everything about the MFH plot, I can see something in her eyes that is just scary. Before I thought she just had a very flat expression but there is something in that one shot that is just off.
I agree with everyone who says that Kaine should have all of the media camp out in his front yard. Put the pressure on her.
It is believed that TH has posted under hopeinva. Does that coorelate with the FBI’s alert for the VA area? Is that something you can answer…or have & I’ve just missed it?
Sorry, name would help! Antonio Jose Gonzales. Booked on July 7.
kuaitzudog says:
July 10, 2010 at 10:51 pm
Kaine has also revealed that Terri failed the polygraph tests during the investigation and that she shared the news of the tests with a room full of people.
“She would vent about the failure, talk about what she failed on, go into great detail about how she felt about it, and that happened multiple times,” Kaine said
Perhaps TH was doing damage control? Talking about her failure and why, explaining it away, so that it seemed like she was okay with it?
Also, I thought that she *did* acct to LE for her morning at first, but then what she said she did didn’t check out, alibi didn’t work, so now she doesn’t remember?
Still thinking about dropping off/picking up.
NEWS FLASH!!! This just in!! Possible Kyron sighting in W. Virginia!!
http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-33505-Nashville-Crime-Examiner~y2010m7d10-Breaking-news-is-Kyron-Horman-alive-in-Charleston-WVA?cid=sharing_facebook%3A33505
There are a number of material witnesses being held in MCSO. There is one that has been mentioned in other forums, Kalvin Brunnelle.
Thanks Blink. The murder happened many years ago, and no, he didn’t have any life insurance. Their life savings was in their home. She didn’t stand to benefit in anyway and I have never seen someone so distraught. No one in our family entertained that MIL could be involved for a second. She is a very private person and went right to anger at the devastation to her life. Although in those first few days, a SO detective asked my husband how his parents got along, which offended him. My FIL worked for a pharmacy chain and one idea was that they thought he had access to RX drugs.
It was a truly random crime. The losers lived 30 miles up I-5 and chose “a rich house” close to the freeway which sat below the road for privacy. When my husband finally talked to a reporter, it was about how much the case was costing the tax payers (over $1,000,000). After nine years, the Ag Murder Conviction was overturned and Death Penalty vacated because the defense attorneys failed to bring in experts on the defendant’s fetal alcohol affect, bipolar and juvenile diabetes diagnoses. They had tried the twinkie defense, and hinted at the other problems. I doubt any number of experts would have helped him – our county’s residents wanted blood. Ultimately, the girl pleaded guilty and got 40 years, the guy pleaded guilty (10 years later)to Ag Murder and got Life W/O Parole. And as I now recall, MIL gave a brief statement to the media after each of the convictions. Sorry to go on about it.
Twice since Kyron has disappeared, my son and I have detoured on our way home from places to go up Cornelius Pass Road, to Skyline Road, to see the school, the church where the press conferences are held, the Wall of Hope. The first time we went there was the weekend one week after his disappearance. We did not know about the Sauvie Island conncection, but happenned to go that way to come up the back road (Cornelius Pass). There was LE and rescue trucks everywhere. I mean, you just got this sense of satisfaction that so much was being done. Yesterday, we drove by again. We saw one Multnomah County Sheriff’s car near Sauvie Island parked on the side of the highway. Other than that, nothing. Skyline Road was an eery quiet. We saw Sheltered Nook Road, but didn’t want to go down and gawk that close to the home. We saw Kyron’s Wall of Hope and I was disappointed that I had not thought earlier to stop and get something to add to this memorial. It felt like a ghost town almost…a hot beautiful day and those pretty balloons waving in the wind. There is no one at the church, but they put up cones in the parking area, I suspect to keep the area available for media when needed. As I drove along Skyline, this vast and wooded area just struck me like…my God..he could be in so many places. My son and I still both feel like he is alive. I don’t know why. It is just my gut. I hope my gut is getting a good read. Kyron’s picture is all over this community. It breaks my heart whenever I see that sign on a door. I always feel compelled to touch it as if I were really touching his face. Will whoever is responsible for this please have a heart and let LE know where Kyron is. I just cannot even imagine what these parents and other family members/friends/school are going thru.
FWIW, I have been contemplating a new theory:
Apparently, TH was malcontent with her family life after Kiara’s birth (confirmed by KH). Suppose TH was overwhelmed by responsibility for three children, all at different age levels. Not only were there the demands of the baby, but she was trying to accomodate JT in his HS activities while remaining active in Ky’s elementary school.
Part of the problem was solved when JT went to live with his GP’s, then father. Maybe that was not enough; she wanted to devote all of her attention to Kiara. Whereas she could, as the birth parent, make the decision to send JT away and had a good excuse to do so (his clashing with KH), she needed KH’s consent to send Ky to live with D&TY (provided they were willing for the arrangement). Perhaps TH broached the subject with KH but he refused to consider it; KH consented, but D&TY did not; or, TH refrained from asking KH because she feared his reaction, or b/c she didn’t want others (including DY) to think poorly of her (and she does seem concerned about her image.)
Whether she spoke to KH on the matter or not, suppose she grew resentful of KH b/c she began to view him as an obstacle to her contentment (not that she didn’t love Ky but, again, she felt overwhelmed by her responsibilities; and, of course, if she was indeed having an affair, those motherly responsibilities – including the need to attend the SF – interfered with the affair). Perhaps, TH decided to arrange the MFH thinking if Kaine died in an “accident,” DY would naturally be given full custody of Ky. When the MFH plot failed, perhaps TH resorted to a plot against Ky.
The theory would explain the connection between the MFH and Ky’s disappearance, and suggest a motive for both. Unfortunately, it does not explain where Ky is, or whether he is still alive. If the MFH on KH failed b/c TH couldn’t find anyone willing to “do the job,” though, I doubt she could’ve found anyone willing to kill a little boy. Would she have done the deed herself? I like to think not. Maybe she passed Ky onto someone else (possibly a stranger, who would’ve been associated with some disreputable operation), possibly for money. If the latter is so, TH would not have any idea where Ky is at this point. Hopefully, the store surveillance tapes will supply a clue.
Thank you everyone for your kind words. It was a rough time but we are all doing fine now. I’m not trying to make excuses for anyone and I tend to agree with Blink. There were just a few aspects that connected with my experience and wanted to share a different perspective. As more information comes to light, we’ll get more pieces to the puzzle. I just hope it brings Kyron home.
Hi Blink. I don’t know if Lisa answered you or not. The guy who’s being held in MC jail as a material witness is
James Harris Winfield.. booked July 8th.
Material Witness…Gonzales??
IMO the match that lit the bonfire was James moving out of TH’s home. He has lived with TH for 16 years and 3 marriages. HE had to leave(butting heads with KH)while KH’s son stayed. Was this something that TH’s friends heard in her venting sessions about her marriage problems?
Can you figure out why this link to this person is listed under the “Kyron” section on the sherrifs office site?
http://www.fbi.gov/wanted.htm
Unrelated
B
Hi everyone. Trying to follow along and praying for everyone involved. I read that two search dogs hit on
Hi everyone. Trying to follow along and praying for everyone involved. I read that two search dogs hit on the same area near a houseboat. Has anyone checked under the houseboats? They float on empty containers such as barrels. Could Kyron be in one? I hate the thought and it breaks my heart but I can’t get the thought out of my head.
God bless all of you for your loving hearts!
Saw something so stressful that she can’t remember it? She could remember to post Kyron’s pic on her facebook though? So whatever horribly traumatic thing that happened that morning caused her to forget everywhere she was but allowed her to upload photos favorable to her? I’m unwilling to make excuses for this woman.
West Virginia sighting of Kyron update:
Police confirm it was not him!
http://wowktv.com/story.cfm?func=viewstory&storyid=82691
Annala,
I agree that Terri saw nothing horrifically tragic that morning. I do believe she conspired with an unknown individual to have Kyron abducted. And I do believe she probably led him out of his school. I also think that was the last time she saw him. She’s not talking because she knows what she did.
@Nana2: You are correct, the High Powered Attorney could shoo the reporters off with the statement “this is private property” and not say to whom the property belonged, but I think in all fairness Kaine’s property rights should have been considered, and it does seem to me that his rights to his property have been overlooked by HPA. It really is not just TH’s call nor HPA’s to decide on who should access that property, especially now with a complaint for eviction filed by KH. I can;t fathom what the HPA would say to news organizations if they showed up in the yard with consent from KH to be there.
I am pretty sure I read the comment that the home was in his name only, and was purchased before they were married (married in 2007? alleged mfh in 2009? talk about short honeymoon.) I can not suppose what a divorce court would do as regards an equitable property distribution in a case like this one.
As regards the garage encounter, I thought the secretary/escort looked serious for most of the video, but I thought I detected a flicker of a snicker, a micro-expression, cross her face at one point.
As regards all of the posters extending the compassionate hand to TH at this time, my hat is off to you that you are able to overlook the growing suspicions of the ones who know her best, and whom I trust are being guided by LE, and still see the best in TH. That takes a lot of compassion.
I hope the outpouring of compassion will bring forth some information and healing if by chance she is in shock with what has gone down, and will not further solidify what I perceive as her need for attention and her need for a sympathetic audience to the spectacle. I have to say, though, that I think the chances are long that will occur. It seems to me that LE and the three other parents started with gently imploring and pleading with TH to do the right thing, and that they have obviously discarded that strategy with each successive news conference and court action.
I was so touched by Blink and everyone reaching out to Terri both on behalf of Kyron and the other family members, and with genuine compassion toward Terri. I had nothing more to add, or would’ve posted there.
I believe here’s where the legal matter stands: LE tried to pressure the other unknown suspects into doing “something” last week with their statement that Sheriff had some decision to make and might have a lot more to say last week. He did not.
LE has the LS being held as a material witness, and can legally hold him for awhile–, so, no rush there. LE is still gathering evidence about Terri’s timeline, so they don’t have enough to charge her with anything else. No rush to charge LS with a crime.
Just because LE convinced a judge that they could get evidence on someone in a sting doesn’t mean they are now required to make an arrest. They do, however, have an annoyed judge they need to make amends with.
I don’t agree with Blink and her radio interviewer that LE HAS to go ahead and make an arrest either because they convinced a judge to allow the sting OR because they convinced a judge they had cause for the RO. Though it was smart of LE when they asked for the RO (and perhaps even the sting–we don’t know) to say they had cause (RO) or thought they could get evidence(sting) on either one of TWO things: MFH or a child abduction (or child endangerment, or concealing knowledge of a crime, or impeding an investigation into a living endangered child, etc.–all these relating to the sting).
That’s where I see it stands. LE doing the tedious traditional investigating work.
kab says:
July 11, 2010 at 9:45 am
West Virginia sighting of Kyron update:
Police confirm it was not him!
http://wowktv.com/story.cfm?func=viewstory&storyid=82691
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Damn. Double damn. I woke up and first thing ran in to see if Kyron had been found. If I’m this disappointed, I can only imagine how KH, DY, and TY feel. Sad now