Kyron Horman Missing and Endangered: Kaine Horman Accuses Terri of Contempt With Michael Cook
BREAKING NEWS
Portland, OR– late today, through his attorney, Kaine Horman filed contempt of court charges against Terri Horman for showing a previously sealed restraining order to childhood friend of Kaine’s, Michael Cook.
In his motion, he also accused Terri of “sexting” messages to Cook from her cell phone. Cook and Horman exchanged racy and graphic sexual messages back and forth since June 30th.
Michael Cook is best known for organizing the first vigil for Kyron Horman on June 7th and speaking briefly to reporters as he ran errands and stocked food and beverages for those in the home when Kyron first went missing.
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So little Kyron did not want to go back home
that seems to be a big clue that things were not so wonderful
in Portland
plus staying in bed
plus James left
this sounds like that was not a great home
full of fun and love like Terri showed the world
Elizabeth, in response to your question:
I hold out positive hope and prayer that Kyron is alive.
But logic tells me that he’s alive only in our hearts.
She described “red flags,” such as Kyron’s increasing unhappiness with returning to his father and stepmother’s Portland home after visiting his mother.
“He wanted to come live with us,” she said. “Several times he would just break down and sob because he wanted to stay.”
WHY THE HE!! WOULD YOU LET HIM GO BACK THERE??
Does not this remind you of little Ethan Stacey?? also crying not to go to his momster and stepdad’s home of horrors…
Listen to your children people!!
ok,read back and saw my questioned has an answer.MC and SC were husband and wife at one time.
How do we know Terri divulged the contents of the restraining order? How do we know Mr. Cook did not open a drawer, find the RO, and take the pix with his cell phone whilst Terri was out of the room. And since the RO has been made public, it all would seem moot anyway, more of a spite case. Mutually consenting adults can sext all they want. People calling for Terri’s head because she had a real or virtual affair are not in touch with the real world. It happens 24/7 in every city every day. If she harmed Kyron – then get a rope. But for an affair and divorce?
It would be interesting to know if Terri was
a problem child
but all that stuff just takes away from Kyron
and I believe he is alive
and all this stuff is just junk to keep us confused
I could care less the woman is sexting
undressing pics
or what ever else she does
where is Kyron
One thing I need clarified. Is Quinn Desiree’s biological son or tony’s?
Desiree’s.
B
Can someone post the oregonlive article? My computer cannot pull it up. Thanks!
Have been reading along but have not posted thus far. Several people have commented on TH setting up her “insanity case ” or defense, and have also speculated about her “capacity.” Several points to consider:
An “insanity defense” (don’t like that term) is based on the defendant’s psychological status at the time that the offense was committed. Often when people use the term “capacity” they are referring to a defendant’s competence to stand trial, which is based on the defendant’s psychological status at the time of various court proceedings (a defendant has to be able to understand the proceedings and assist counsel in his/her defense). This is an important distinction.
Second, in some ways, an “insanity defense” is more about legal concepts than it is about psychological status.
Lots of people who are prosecuted for offenses large and small probably could be diagnosed with some sort of mental disorder, per DSM-IV. But having a disorder, even at the time of the offense is not enough. The actual language that permits such a defense varies from state to state (and I don’t know about OR) but it is generally something like….”as a result of a mental disorder, the defendent was unable to distinguish right from wrong” or “as a result of mental illness, the defendant was unble to conform his/her behavior to the requirements of the law,” etc.
There has been lots of speculation about TH having antisocial personality disorder (one of several possible personality d/os which folks are discussing). Without commenting on the accuracy of that, in general, having a personality disorder, in and of itself, is not likely to help a great deal with an insanity defense. Yes, if TH or someone else did the unthinkable and harmed a child, most people would consider that crazy or irrational, but a successful insanity defense means that the behavior involved in the offense has to meet the legal criteria established. ASPD is included in DSM, and can be considered a mental disorder, but if that was sufficient, many of the people currently in prison would qualify (and they don’t or haven’t). Similarly, alcohol or substance abuse/dependence is considered to be a mental disorder in DSM-IV, but saying, “gee, your Honor I was crazy drunk when I did that and don’t remember a thing” is unlikely to be exculpatory either.
That said, many individuals with personality disorders also often suffer from other disorders (e.g. anxiety, depression, etc.) that, when severe, can distort their sense of reality to a degree that an insanity defense might be successful. The main point is that, as observers, we can look at TH’s behavior and find it erratic, unstable, incomprehensible and so on but a successful insanity defense generally requires more than being a loose cannon or having REALLY bad judgment.
She described “red flags,” such as Kyron’s increasing unhappiness with returning to his father and stepmother’s Portland home after visiting his mother.
“He wanted to come live with us,” she said. “Several times he would just break down and sob because he wanted to stay.”
That makes me so very sad
Poor little Kyron. I want him to be found safe and sound.
please use my screen name, Rockette
Jane Hennessy: excellent points. A large percentage of the incarcerated would fall under the ASPD classifications, and they weren’t “insane”.
This is the video of Desirre & Tony. (Today Show)
Heartbreaking
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/38239735#38239735
Oregonian article.
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/38239735#38239735
Opps….
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/kyron_hormans_mother_desiree_y_1.html
21.Redrock says:
July 14, 2010 at 1:48 pm
How do we know Terri divulged the contents of the restraining order? How do we know Mr. Cook did not open a drawer, find the RO, and take the pix with his cell phone whilst Terri was out of the room. And since the RO has been made public, it all would seem moot anyway, more of a spite case. Mutually consenting adults can sext all they want. People calling for Terri’s head because she had a real or virtual affair are not in touch with the real world. It happens 24/7 in every city every day. If she harmed Kyron – then get a rope. But for an affair and divorce
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Redrock: IIRC TH took the RO to MC’s residence to show him and that is where he photographed it. While it is true that the RO was made public later, she showed him while it was to be sealed AND she showed him the address where KH and Kiara were residing which was never made public. This is one of the parts he photographed and he went further to google a map of the location. He said he did not go there, but what IF he had used this to help TH get Kiara and she was gone now too…
I agree with you that people sexting someone other than their spouses is quite common but a person who has a missing stepson, sudden divorce papers and no access at all to her baby daughter spending considerable time doing that? Not calling for her head – I just think it tells me a lot about who she really is – and for me, it has changed my perception of who she is considerably.
Shannon,
I don’t know who Futureman was targeting his comment at, but it made me laugh out loud. That’s just the type of therapeutic gallows humor we need every once in a while to help cope with such disturbing news. You are certainly not alone in your quest to turn over every stone and analyze every possibility. We need to know where that little boy is. And we want to know WHY on earth someone would harm a child, as if knowing the answer could help us prevent it from happening to others.
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5.Shannon says:
July 14, 2010 at 8:58 am
Re: Futureman says:
July 13, 2010 at 10:35 pm
Is it true that TH is also suspected of eating neighborhood dogs? Not sure where I heard this, but it might explain the sudden weight gain.
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Futureman: I feel that your post was probably a response to mine, and probably very well deserved. I am really sorry if my ideas were as ridiculous as that, I certainly wasn’t trying to waste anyone’s time.
For anyone-anywhere, Phone numbers and/or web address to contact with ANY tip/information on Kyron.
http://www.mcso.us/public/
Sheriff Daniel Staton
501 SE HAWTHORNE BLVD., SUITE 350 PORTLAND, OR 97214
PHONE: (503) 988 – 4300
FAX: (503) 988 – 4320
Emergency Call 911
Non-Emergency Call 503-823-3333
Kyron Horman… Anyone with information regarding Kyron Horman whereabouts is asked to call the Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office tip line 503 261-2847, or to dial 911 with emergency information….
National Center for Missing & Exploited Childrenhttp://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PublicHomeServlet?LanguageCountry=en_US&
National Center for Missing & Exploited Children
Charles B. Wang International Children’s Building
699 Prince Street
Alexandria, Virginia 22314-3175
The United States of America
24-hour Hotline: 1-800-THE-LOST (1-800-843-5678)
Phone: 703-224-2150
Fax: 703-224-2122
I am sure the investigators are slogging through all tips and potential evidence as best as they can, even though the going appears too slow to our liking. I can understand their focus and use of dive teams on Sauvie Island after learning of the cell phone pings, but I would hope they are obtaining the same ping information on every call made by the landscaper (who, incidentally may or may not be the owner of a company)and everyone he called in the past seven months. (AND, all the parents and volunteers who attended the science fair.)
In particular, I am curious about two things. One, what percentage of the time do dive teams recover what they are seeking, and two, can the distance from a tower be calculated when a cell loses the signal?
If this is a perfectly planned abduction, then I can see Sauvie Island possibly being used for the hand-off of the victim, but I can’t see it as the “perfect” place to dispose of a victim. There are virtually hundreds of places along the Columbia within minutes of Hwy 30 and Cornelius Pass Rd which present a better and more secure location to drop something in the river.
To those who live in the city, going out to Sauvie Island to do some dirty deed may seam feasible. But to those who drive into the city, Sauvie Island IS part of the city. There is about a 10 mile stretch of road where only two places have stop lights, Cornelius Pass and Sauvie Island. Sauvie Island has a number of going concerns and includes a bedroom community of Portland. There is a lot of traffic (relative to the surrounding rural area) on Sauvie Island and chances of being seen doing anything there are pretty good.
On the other hand, there are thousands of acres of timber between the Columbia River (Hwy 30) and Hwy 26 from Portland to the coast that are all within a two hour drive. I hope Kyron was not taken out and stashed, then left because of the heat and frenzy of the initial search and investigation.
I can’t get my head around someone just killing him right off. What, by bashing his head, choking him? No, I just can’t get my head around that. Was he drugged into a stupor or sleep? Was he abandoned in the woods to die or was he in a car in Northern California by the time LE were called in the PM?
I think when LE finds out where Terri, her friends and lovers, and EVERYONE who attended the science fair was that day, then Kyron will be found.
#19 Redrock
Loved your post we are thinking alike today
enough about sex between adults
time out
we want to know if you gave the kid away,
sold the kid or killed the kid
then go have sex anyway you want
I don’t care
a rope LOL. Well…
Blink Quote from June 17:
“Let me be clear in my communication with all readers:
I will stake my professional reputation on the fact that this is a sexually motivated crime.
It has always bothered me that Kyron would not get out of bed until he was told to. Even the shyest of children usually get up upon awakening unless told not to, or feel like they will get into trouble if they do. It sounds like some strict discipline going on in that house. We also now know that there was something going on between the parents for months before Kyron vanished due to the MFH plot. From Blinks statement above could it be that SM was sexually abusing Kyron and was afraid that would come out in a divorce proceeding or that Kyron was getting to the age that he would tell someone? I know that is a stretch, but some of the signs are there. And now his Mother says that he didn’t want to go back home when he came to visitation with her? A lot of family child abusers put up a front of that of a loving, caring, close relationship with their victims. Just a thought as to motive for SM’s involvement.
Children are very complex and often it it hard to understand what is a “red flag” and what is “normal” behaviour (having had some understanding of this with my daughter). A child psychologist will tell you that in many instances that a child crying and not wanting to go to another parent is an example of showing love for the parent they are leaving and not being able to express it in the way that they want to, unfortunately, at other times, this may be different. Desiree would have not been able to do anything about this as she could not have forced this issue in the family courts for this reason. Also while Kaine thought that Kyron was well looked after he would not be inclined to consider this. I don’t speak for anyone but also from personal knowledge of such cases, the primary carer is also not inclined to consider such issues due to payment of childcare benefits if they believe that they might have to pay our to an “ex” when they believe that their child is well cared for. For example a Mother might have to leave her child for a period of time with the father and then find that when they are able to care for the child again they are told that the child is settled and that its not appropriate. This is nothing against Kaine at all, but the way it is, and who can argue that a child should be with a mother or a father if they both work? However I think that perhaps this dynamic went wrong after the birth of KH (the baby) and resulted in TH becoming unstable, ie the LS and the recent lover (perhaps text only but still sexual) and perhaps another. But I think that TH is the only person responsible for Kyron’s present state, I may be wrong, but I can’t see any of these “dodgy” friendships resulting directly in a child’s murder (or as an accomplice) by any of them. I think (and again only my opinion) that Terri has has some kind of mental breakdown (due to pressures of childbirth and her marriage, (and whatever that entailed…))and she took it out on Kyron perhaps she left Kyron in the woods without his glasses to perish. The woods are huge, (see maps etc.) she would have knowledge of them and tracks within them, he would be too scared to move (exemplified by not moving from bed in the morning), or alternately she put him into the water. I think perhaps that she could not have “directly” harmed him, but could have left him, so in some way absenting herself from direct “killing”. It seems too long since he has gone (but I still hope against hope) and her abandonment of any reasonable behaviour since then suggests that she has nothing left to lose, the sexual relationship seems to suggest distancing herself and the refusal to cooperate is a suggestion that kyron won’t be found alive and that keeping quiet and hoping his body is not found along with no real cicumstancial evidence might just get her into a “Misty” situtation…
link follow-up to my 2:50pm comment – cannot locate it though I remember reading it. Upon reviewing the Contempt of Court docs, I see it states that MC says that TH showed him the docs and pointed out particular sections that were noteworthy to her.
Sorry about lack of link
I think that LS lover has come clean. I think he told all he knew, shared his cell phone and computer records..particularly if he went along with the sting. Remember LE has never said they have no evidence..they just haven’t shared what they do have with us.
The LS lover showed us a side of Terri that was unknown before ..she was willing to text with a stranger, she was willing to ask a stranger to kill her husband, she was willing to that stranger her husband was having an alleged affair.
In comes MC..he now shows us that she is willing to text sexually graphic material to a friend of her husband, she is willing to let him take pics of the RO, she asked him to lie to her lawyer if needed.
I imagine he has shared his cell phone, computer, etc with LE.
I think we have a picture of Terri now that shows she was to a certain extent leading a double life. She also was ready to move on to her next husband..live-in situation. I have no doubt she was hoping to move in with MC.
That double life seems to have included some very risky behavior for herself and her family. And now it has put Kyron in jeopardy, her other children in jeopardy and her world is squeezing in tighter and tighter smaller and smaller. She will talk..at some point she is going to let everyone else have it. Tick tock …
@Lillor: re: the Shannon Cook story. Is that a non-sequitur, or is that somehow related to this case?
Shannon Cook is the ex-wife of THE Mike Cook in this cluster? Wow. Thanks, Andy, for giving me the clue.
WHY DOES IT TAKE SO LONG FOR ANYTHING TO HAPPEN IN THESE WEIRD CASES? (i.e., Hayleigh Cummings, etc.) Blink do you really think that LE has NOTHING? Or sitting on what they’ve got for now?
“Is there a distancing now between Desiree and Kaine? Maybe she is blaming Kaine for not keeping Kyron safe from Terri.
This is my belief, yes.
B”
Or perhaps for realization that he was not completely out of the loop on the lifestyle issues. Also, had he told DY that TH was suffering from PPD and taking medication for it? Wouldn’t that be important info? etc.
Not related (I HOPE!) but how bizarre…..
http://www.wric.com/global/story.asp?s=12806915
Regarding Sauvie Island: Our family goes out there for day trips as it’s a beautiful spot – quiet and pretty. The island is sparsely populated and many of the residents have boats. During the week, especially on a rainy days, the boat ramps are often deserted. The Willamette and Columbia rivers were very high on June 4th.
If someone needed to dispose of something and knew a person living on the island with access to a boat, it would be easy to put in and head out into either the Willamette or Columbia rivers.
Lets assume Terri is innocent, knowing that there is a microscope on her right now why would she send provocative texts and photos? This makes her seem cold hearted and of low moral character and obviously does not care about finding Kyron or getting her daughter back, and IF she is guilty, then she is just plain stupid. If you did something, then you would at least try to cover it up with crocodile tears and defending yourself in some form, not engaging in ‘sexting’ with this guy Cook, who I also find to be of low moral character. I think they probably were having an affair way before Kyron went missing, but this was well hidden from Kaine like many other things, I have lots and lots of speculatory thoughts on this whole mess of a situation but what really matters is, where is Kyron????
Houze has alot of work ahead of him, one mess after the next with this women. Guilty or not, she certainly is digging herself deeper and deeper.
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kelly says:
July 14, 2010 at 10:32 am
To Jackie Bauer:
There is information that DY tried to get custody of Kaine when she returned from Canada and her health improved, but that Kaine refused. Secondly, regarding Kaine and his relationship with his wives, one does not have to be a “wild, controlling, abusive loon” to be domineering in relationships with women.
The fact that you said “I could be wrong” seems to imply that you have an opinion. Please let others have theirs as well.
@Kelly: my whole post wasn’t to you, my last paragraph was a general statement. My questions stand as written, and I do think wild accusations without much proof are being made re: KH, and like you said, we all get our opinions.
Before we get all bent out of shape about Kyron not wanting to return home, while he was with Desiree, please remember that children from blended homes do this frequently. I have stepchildren. I was a stepchild. This is one of the many ways that children know how to say, “I love you.” To this day, when I visit my parents, I say things like, “I wish I didn’t have to go home…” Children know how to push the parental emotional buttons.
That said, I am not in any way ruling out that Kyron was abused in some way. I personally feel that he was sexually abused in some way and that led to his disappearance. I don’t have much to base that on except that most 7 year old boys are not that shy (even shy boys are quite boisterous—and I taught 1st and 2nd grade for 12 years so I do have some experience with this). Call it my GUT feeling. I had it the first time I saw a picture of him. There’s just something not right that I can’t really describe. As facts come out about the SM, I think that we can all connect certain dots—one of them being that she was obsessive about making sure everything looked picture perfect on the outside. No family is perfect–and she had more to hide than most. My hubby says, “Show me a perfect family, and I’ll show you a pile of skeletons in the closet.”
My scenario (for today). TH sold Kyron. He might still be alive from this selling, but since the case as become so high profile, he’s probably not because not even the most demented child sex offender is going to take that risk. Nobody involved is going to come forward. TH has given the money to someone—that would be the link—possibly the LS for MFH down-payment.
I’m in a dark mood today—wishing we’d get some good news soon.
@lizzy, yes I think that maybe now Desiree is less inclined to be seen along side Kaine, she maybe (in my view) be coming to terms with Kyron’s situation being possibly terminal, before she would have done anything (I think) including backing Kaine, but now with hope fading she blames him for a) having Terri in charge of Kyron (as his wife), when she (Desiree) would have liked to (ie when she was better from the kidney problem) and b) not taking seriously the signs, ie post natal depression, as hope fades for her then the anger to those who could have avoided this grows, and I can see why….
Blink – what did you do – trip over the plug?
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Thank you all sincerely for your patience. Server conversions blow.
We hope to be bigger faster and stronger shortly, or a certain IT professional will be named on this site.
(kidding, a little)
B
Dear Blink,
I have a question for you. What do you think of the Psychic, Jacqui O’reilly’s prediction that the man responsible is Brian Pumalo?
http://missingpersons.phpbb3now.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=69
It does seem too coincidental:
1. His son, mother of his children, and in-laws live on an adjacent property to the Hormons. (He certainly could have had some sort of relationship/contact with Terry Hormon.)
2. His son is a classmate at Kyron’s at Skyline. (Kyron may have felt safe leaving with one of his classmates Dad.)
3. His son and mother-in-law defy LE and give an on-camera interview that many thought seemed “coached.” (The boy stated that Kyron did not leave with Terry Hormon, maybe he was with his Dad.)
4. He lives on a house boat on Sauvie’s Island. (Where Terry’s cell phone places her.)
5. The Psychic feels strongly that Kyron is near the water on the island.
I agree that LE could be trying to draw out a jealous lover that helped do harm to Kyron by releasing the “sexting” relationship.
Could it be him?
Thanks for all your hard work on this case, Blink!
I think with all due respect you can’t predict something from information learned here, can you?
B
GClick on link below KOIN6 & click on the first PDF file for costs-to-date for Mult. Co DA
http://www.koinlocal6.com/content/news/topstories/story/Terri-wants-money-to-move-out-Kyron-Horman/Dz4uMChK60KCWjy3W5FG4Q.cspx
Costs for Search for Kyron (30.5KB)
GClick on link below KOIN6 & click on the first PDF file for costs-to-date for Mult. Co DA
http://www.koinlocal6.com/content/news/topstories/story/Terri-wants-money-to-move-out-Kyron-Horman/Dz4uMChK60KCWjy3W5FG4Q.cspx
Costs for Search for Kyron (30.5KB)
Former sheriff’s capt., current lawyer talks about Horman case
KOIN^6 News
http://www.koinlocal6.com/content/news/topstories/story/Former-sheriffs-capt-current-lawyer-talks-about/Gqbxh1C5m0KpXxB0zvvD5g.cspx
Conclusion of earlier post. Site went down as I was adding to it. Whoops.
Kelly, I know that you cite information re: Kaine keeping Kyron from DY when she got back. (I haven’t read that–can you provide a link?) That may have been a bumpy road for KH & DY, but it doesn’t mean he is any of the things you called him above. I have not see evidence to the fact that KH is any of the labels (controlling, domineering, slick…) and *most* importantly, you do not know that he was cheating on TH, and you state it as fact. In fact, Blink called someone out on this a few posts back for doing the same thing–we do not know that he was cheating on her, or that in his eyes they had a bad marriage.
Kaine’s probably not perfect–show me the person who is–but before I said that KH is cheating, I would sure want substantive proof. And if this is just a “working theory” that you have about him, then you need to state that. You do state later your theory as to how it went south, but you then label KH again. As it is, my comments stand, and I think that everyone is entitled to an opinion of the facts, but I think that, as Blink said earlier, making unfounded accusations against a man who’s son is missing is a bit out of line (paraphrasing, sorry Blink, don’t have the exact quote). I also think that the “rage” theory, doesn’t hold up at all, but like you said, everyone gets to have their own opinion.
Blink,
Desiree made the comment that little Kyron broke down and cried, begging her not to make him go back to Kaine and Terry. I just
can’t imagine her sending him back if he was that frightened. I’m
sure she is feeling very, very guilty about this. I know I would.
I pray to God that Terri never, ever gets her little daughter back.
She is dangerous,and I don’t think she will stop at anything to “have things her way”!
Isn’t it strange that Kaine, living with her, didn’t notice some-
thing “weird” about her behavior, and how she treated Kyron. It’s
sad that Kyron didn’t feel that he could share his feelings with his
Dad. I think most kids would, why couldn’t little Kyron.
As luck would have it, I made a post at seemingly the precise time that the server malfunctioned! I received an error that Blinkoncrime.com did not exist. Perhaps this was a lesson for me from the universe? Who knows. Nevertheless, I am thinking that my following post was not received. Therefore, I am reposting now, sd thankfully, I made a copy of it this time. As follows:
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Hello All,
I spent time contemplating my interactoin on BOC. To the extent that I can, I apologize to Blink and bloggers for anything inappropriate I have said. My contemplation brought out the following:
1. I submitted a post for the first time on BOC after reading literally hundreds of posts from others. I can count on one hand (maybe two) the times I have participated on a “blog.” Those times were mostly academic persuing my own cause related to justice. In this instance, my original post on BOC was responding to someone in particular.
2. I did not see my post and was not sure if it was an error on my part, my computer’s part, or the possibility that my post was not deemed appropriate and/or necessary.
3. I submitted a comment explaining item 2 above. To my knowledge, I did not get a response.
4. I felt vulnerable as my personal thoughts, observations, and research into what I considered valid points were “missing,” but perhaps viewed by someone. I don’t know. Nevertheless, “missing.”
5. I eventually felt violated.
6. The entire situation involving Kyron as a missing and endangered child has me beyond upset. Kyron is one of many. All situations involving childre — missing, injured, abused, ad nauseam — make me upset, sick, and outraged. But I have been particularly glued to this case and hoping for a miraculous outcome. I live in Oregon now (not to my liking) and my child will be going into the 2nd grade.
My contemplations that I have presented are NOT an attack on anyone, so please do not take them as such. This is merely an attempt to provide a small amount of detail so that I, and/or we all, can move beyond. While I have other things I would like to say, there are more important things to worry about. However, I would like to respond to something Claire said:
Claire says:
July 14, 2010 at 3:11 pm
“The woods are huge, (see maps etc.) she would have knowledge of them and tracks within them, he would be too scared to move (exemplified by not moving from bed in the morning), or alternately she put him into the water. I think perhaps that she could not have “directly” harmed him, but could have left him, so in some way absenting herself from direct “killing”.
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I abosolutely understand how this could be possible. This is very hard for me to say, but my own mother set me up as a small child and as a young adult for failure, injury, endangerment, etc., through her abusive ways (sociopath, narcissist). On the one hand, my mother is “Terri lite.” On the other hand, Terri has nothing on my mother.
#30 ElizabethinOr
You kind of made my point saying that you and your family go “out there.” To those in the city, Sauvie Island seems to be out there and to be sparsely populated. To rural folks, although all would agree that Sauvie Island can be pretty, it is not out there nor sparsely populated.
The rivers were very high then, but there is always a tremendous amount of boat traffic in that area. Plus, a rainy day doesn’t keep people inside and away from their jobs on Sauvie Island and the surrounding area.
I am just hoping that the search is not confined only to Sauvie Island. I hope those investigating look into whether anyone they suspect may be involved would consider Sauvie Island to be out there and quiet and sparsely populated or would think of Sauvie Island to be too busy a place to hide something.
Blink: I came across a rumor, presented as fact, that “everyone” knew Tanner had manufactured his statement and that it wasted some LE time (I would include the link, but don’t remember where I read it). Do you know if this is rumor based on fact, or just rumor?
RE: pps_mom and Brian Pumalo: I personally spoke to Harry Oakes after he searched Warrior Rock and the Rudy Alice lighthouse. He told me that he had other physics also tell him about Kyron being near water/sand/the island or lighthouse. He could not find him. He also searched the docks along Multnomah Channel (where Pumalo lives). I just remember that Pumala’s son was interviwed and told reporters that Kyron said “I’m going to see the electric thing” which is where Pumalo was conducting that exhibit.
I don’t believe in coincidences.
The only thing Michael Cook is involved in with regards to sweet Kyron’s disappearance, I believe strongly, is to show the media and LE how psychotic Terri actually is. MC used very poor judgement that is all.
The Horman’s home at 18874 SW Christopher DR Beaverton OR
Sold on 3/25/09.
http://www.trulia.com/homes/Oregon/Beaverton/sold/844033-18874-Sw-Christopher-Dr-Beaverton-OR-97006
Previously in foreclosure on 1/15/09.
http://www.streamfx.com/CW/1-15-2009/REO-Oregon.html
If I dig a little more might be able to find out when the Horman’s actually sold the home.
@ Malty says:
July 14, 2010 at 1:07 pm
So little Kyron did not want to go back home
that seems to be a big clue that things were not so wonderful
in Portland
plus staying in bed ***
plus James left
this sounds like that was not a great home
full of fun and love like Terri showed the world
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*** I always felt that when bio mom & bio dad spoke about Kyron not wanting to come out of his room in the morning to me it was a sign he was being abused in some way or punished a lot & he felt safe in his room..
My comments are in moderation purgatory. Oh well, just wanted to add: a film about his “magnetic personality”, a FB photo at Plumper Pumpkin Patch and a craigslist ad dated December 2009, but info on this dude is scant. I apologize if I’m defaming a fine LS’r, but with this many connections, I don’t think he is random. Sorry for being a PITA.
Hln is saying that desiree said she seen red flags with kyron begging not to be sent back to his dads after his visits. He oviously feared her and now I am convinced that she was mean to him(terry) when dad wasnt around. She has deep rooted problems that we havent even began to see as of yet.
pps_mom says:
July 14, 2010 at 5:24 pm
“Dear Blink,
I have a question for you. What do you think of the Psychic, Jacqui O’reilly’s prediction that the man responsible is Brian Pumalo?”
Jacqui also sent an email to another person mentioned on here to ask why he killed Kyron. If the online dimension to this story doesn’t make it into the made for tv movie, it’s bizarreness will not be fully portrayed.