Kyron Horman Missing and Endangered: Terri Horman Leaves The House
Portland, OR– Late today, prior to a previously scheduled hearing at 3PM PST, an agreement was reached between the attorneys for Kaine Horman and Terri Horman.
KOIN reports:The dispute between Terri Horman and Kaine Horman has been settled and she will move out of the couple’s Northwest Sheltered Nook Road home Saturday by 3 p.m.
Also on Koin6, via email from Kaine Horman-
When asked via email by KOIN if he believes Terri had something to do with Kyron’s disappearance, he wrote: “I believe at some point she will be arrested.”
Check back to blinkoncrime.com for breaking developments.
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@ AB says:
AB : on July 22, 2010 at 10:15 am
You said”…Anselmo has been in federal custody on an illegal reentry charge since the beginning of March.”
Have I missed something? Have a link to that?
Blink’s Anselmo was booked into MCSO on July 8, 2010 on a U.S. Marshall’s hold. Here’s the MCSO booking page:
http://www.mcso.us/PAID/BookingDetail.aspx?ID=j2fROvstUkZ9eSRaCJS85w==
someone mentioned why Terri is so silent & never hears her speak-
she has been very quite but she makes up for it in drastic actions-sexting a husbands friend after her step son goes missing-? Going to husbands gym & tells employee that she is going to abduct her daughter. SHe has yet to come on TV & beg for Kyron’s return or beg to see her own baby girl – its so beyond strange.
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Actions do speak louder than words-
I agree with LPB on the comment about regurgitating alot of info already discussed, but I must add that sometimes when those issues are brought back up we do learn new information.
Jackie, I’ve been looking for a news article about my comment earlier about the polygraph, nope I can’t find one stating what she passed, nor can I find one stating what she failed. Like I was sayin’, for me anyway, it’s food for thought.
Thoughts and prayers are with Kyron, his brothers and his sister.
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Macy says:
July 22, 2010 at 10:41 am
Macy says:
@NancyS & snapoutofit:
Sorry if I offended anyone with my suggestion of adding a FAQ section. I thought that may make it easier for Blink. I have been reading here for a long time and I have kept up with the info that has been posted on here just fine, but I know for someone just finding this blog things can be confusing.
This was my first post and it seems like everyone immediately jumps down my throat for me trying to be helpful to new readers. It was just a suggestion.
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@Macy…no worries Macy…great idea…faq would minimize the wild speculation, rampant guesswork and amateur theories. However it may also diminish the appeal of the site many of us enjoy. I have thought a ‘techno-cork board’ like one might see on cop shows would also help to separate fact from fiction. But again…what would we talk about?…And alas, the format is brought to us by our gracious hostess, and for that we are all (mostly all) appreciative.
Now…WHERE IS KYRON?
There is a possiblity Psychic Ed Dames will do some investigating. They reported on Fox 12 this morning, the teenager who vanished in Washington State a month ago has possibly been located following a lead from a Psychic.
Has anyone seen or heard any mention of Desiree lately? Why are we only seeing Kaine in the news?
i bet that some discovery would be announced on Friday! (which Fri is irrelevant).
Media and family oddly release statements and videos of significance on the day of the week KY went missing.
This story coverage has been indeed strange and seemingly backwards (discussing Dr. appt just now and still failing to provide facts; basically, Kaine thought this, Terri said that….or unidentified source states this…., i can go on and on).
There are the facts?!!!
Over a month child is missing and public still does not have clear understanding of what took place in school that day, for crying out loud
If LE is asking for public $$$, then public should know fundamental facts (no need to disclose POI or what LE believes have happened until they are ready to charge).
When remaining family of KY implores Terri to communicate, LE states she is cooperating, and then, next day, family implores Terri to fully communicate – what a circus!
Sadly, while this “show & tell” activity goes on, little child is still missing….
Kyron baby, may God look over and comfort you where you are.
Blink,
We know that up till June 26th, any statements were made by the family, which at that time included Terri. The family remained silent with the exception of the press conference where Kaine and Tony read their statements.
We also Know that the questionnaire released was also approved by the family, which at that time included Terri.
http://www.flashalertnewswire.net/images/news/2010-06/1276/36184/061410.SchoolQuestionnaireadobe.hm.pdf
Statement from Kyron Horman’s Family:
(snipped)We are sorry that we aren’t there today to stand with investigators, but please know that we fully support the release of this flyer. We want Kyron home and we hope this will help do that.
http://www.mcso.us/public/newsroom.htm
Also Kaine has stated that the home that Terri and he shared was searched many time. IIRC without a search warrant.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/kyron_hormans_parents_reveal_n.html
I have always had an issue with the questionnaire, not that it was distributed, just that it was suggestive. And I feel that they should have had all parents faces and all parents autos on the front, because at that time all people should be a person of interest.Well until Kyron is found and we know what happened to him, I believe everyone should still be people of interest.
Terri was supportive of the questionnaire being distributed locally and nationally when she already was aware of the public perception.
Question to you: Would the release of the questionnaire be indicative of someone who is guilty or innocent.
I dont think that is really an answerable question, they may be wholly unrelated.
B
oh, and another thing, a few videos from KY coverage were removed and are “Unable to locate” – i have been searching high/low for a link to respond to Jackie/Jack Bauer (in regards to creep that appeared in one of them). Being not local, i had a chance to view coverage pieces that were slightly different from those by KATU or in WW, OregonianLive, but clip/s that i was looking for was from Oregon state – now wished i have downloaded them elsewhere other than saving on a HD.
Midwest Mom: I wonder if you think the info. that Terri H. (possibly) wanted the Landscaper to kill Kaine is important…or the fact that she sent Michael Cook nude photos?
@Shannon, that was a very nice response to Macy! I am the guilty party when it comes to the glasses being brought up recently I’m afraid. Those glasses haunt me for some reason, maybe because I’ve worn them since I was a little kid too.
I’m sure I’m not the only one that has posted something that has already been talked about, but sometimes new information is learned that way…yeah I know…I already said that.
Even though I try not to go back to old subjects people sometimes post things referring back to earlier findings that differ from what I read about them when they happened and I like to clarify facts when that occurs. If this isn’t acceptable please let me know so I won’t do it, I’ll go back to just reading and keeping quiet!
Thoughts and prayers are with Kyron, his brothers and sister.
This is a link to the acrticle few hours ago…The Sheriff now saying no need for mpre money..Wonder is it a sign they are almost done and some news coming or just trying to get the focus back to KY?
http://www.kgw.com/news/Agencies-request-438643-to-staff-Kyron-Horman-case-missing-portland-98787209.html
More from the DA regarding additional funding.
District Attorney Michael Shrunk said “we are confident of a good resolution” to the Kyron Horman case.
http://www.kgw.com/news/Agencies-request-438643-to-staff-Kyron-Horman-case-missing-portland-98787209.html
BTW, HopeinVA stopped posting July 14…hmmm, I guess she moved away.
(sorry, couldn’t help myself)
Strange turn of events. Didn’t they know what their budget was yesterday??
Sheriff withdraws request for funds
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http://www.koinlocal6.com/content/ne…b5npZp9Ig.cspx
This case just gets stranger and stranger!
http://www.kgw.com/news/Agencies-request-438643-to-staff-Kyron-Horman-case-missing-portland-98787209.html
“Multnomah County Sheriff Dan Staton surprised county commissioners Thursday morning by withdrawing an expected request for $242,000 in additional funding to pursue the Kyron Horman investigation. Stayton tabled the request until October, and actually announced the Sheriff’s office would return about $900,000 to county coffers from savings in the previous fiscal year.
Schrunk said “we are confident of a good resolution (in the Kyron Horman case)…”"
@ Beejay, lol, no I am not a dancer–unless you count the stuff I do at home alone while cleaning my with headphones on. I’m a lawyer. It does sometimes require a soft step.
I enjoy yours posts and am glad that I am not the only one out here. While I don’t think TH is someone I’d want to be around much, there are so few admissible facts in this case. It is just really hard for me to jump on the band wagon and close the door to the many other possibilities. Add to the mix all the character traits that play either favorably or unfavorably into the publics view of the main parties in this case and you have a huge mess of speculation and mass hysteria. I don’t see any evidence that tells me TH hurt Kyron. I see lots of evidence that she behaved badly. But even the MFH thing is really weak (hence no arrest for this felony conspiracy and attempted murder). Weak. Sure, people love to hate her. But until there is an arrest AND a conviction, I am going to consider her innocent of murder.
Cathy Bickel says:
July 22, 2010 at 2:06 pm
@Shannon, that was a very nice response to Macy! I am the guilty party when it comes to the glasses being brought up recently I’m afraid. Those glasses haunt me for some reason, maybe because I’ve worn them since I was a little kid too.
@Cathy, that was 100% not directed at you I promise. I just picked that example out of my head because I know “are they his or just a replica?” gets asked all the time by lots of people. I honestly didn’t see your posting about it. It just seemed like a good example of a piece of information that could appear in a “fact sheet” type or place. I would never (and I mean never) want to try to help one person’s feelings, by hurting another person’s feelings so it wasn’t at you at all.
I also agree with you that each time it gets brought up and discussed, is one more opportunity for a “click” moment when someone says something that allows someone else to make a connection or suggest a new idea. So I don’t think it is a waste of time at all for items to be discussed repeatedly. At this point with a lack of new information coming out on the case, re-discussing old information and facts is really all we have right now. So don’t spot posting.
And also…. I am totally guilty of not knowing every little piece of information too. I posted a question to Blink yesterday, which she was very kind to answer but which included the dreaded phrase “as I have stated before” which obviously shows that she has answered it in a previous post. I am still so glad that I asked the question, and I am very glad she answered it because it really cleared up for me, even it it was a repeat answer, where this case stands right now and what we can expect over the next while, which is I don’t think very much in the near future unless Kyron is found.
More DA money approved in search for Kyron Horman
Northwest Cable News – 21 minutes ago
Multnomah County Sheriff Dan Staton delays request for extra money … – OregonLive.com
Sheriff Withdraws Request For Cash In Kyron Case – KPTV Portland
all 25 news articles »
Jeez, which is it?
@Macy
if it helps I am totally confused also with this case
what is fact or what
but this is a good site
other sites are all fighting
here people are civil and really trying to bring Kyron home
just keep reading
it will happen
http://www.kgw.com/news/Agencies-request-438643-to-staff-Kyron-Horman-case-missing-portland-98787209.html
“Multnomah County Sheriff Dan Staton surprised county commissioners Thursday morning by withdrawing an expected request for $242,000 in additional funding to pursue the Kyron Horman investigation. Stayton tabled the request until October, and actually announced the Sheriff’s office would return about $900,000 to county coffers from savings in the previous fiscal year.”
and
“District Attorney Michael Schrunk also spoke at the meeting. Schrunk did submit the DA’s office request for $196,000 for a deputy D.A. and a limited-time investigator to continue the Kyron Horman investigation.
Schrunk said “we are confident of a good resolution (in the Kyron Horman case), and legally.”
A draft request had indicated the sheriff and DA would seek nearly a half-million in additional funding for the Horman investigation.”
Thank you Shannon and Jackie!
Yeah, tomorrow is Friday. Stage Curtain to be dramatically lifted on astounding information by the author-ities? Hold your questions about the gaps and ensuing concerns until Monday, folks. Isn’t the PRIME chant Timing Is Everything in searching for disappeared children?
Prepare us… Who can we contact that is doing the legwork on Saturdays? After all, isn’t there a horde of 22 police and FBI working this, but considering lunch, coffee breaks, business hours, AND weekends, well…. and don’t forget they had to use some of that time to do the calculations and summarize that Report on how much we owe for all this hefty work… gee, maybe they should work for the government accounting office and we would get those figures faster. Have a nice weekend… wonder what little Kyron will be experiencing physically and emotionally this weekend.
WHERE IS KYRON!!!!!!!!!!!! NOSTRIL TWITCHER WHERE IS KYRON?????
WATERBOARD ALL PERSONS OF INTEREST IN DISAPPEARED CHILD CASES. MAKE YOUR POLITICIANS GET THAT LAW ESTABLISHED NOW BEFORE ELECTIONS. AFTER ELECTIONS THEY WILL BE TOO BUSY CAMPAIGNING FOR THE NEXT ELECTION.
http://www.koinlocal6.com/content/news/topstories/story/Sheriffs-office-declines-extra-money-for-now-for/5iFW97qmWUCsNb5npZp9Ig.cspx
“Staton said he didn’t need the money as of now, in part because of a four-person budget cut that left the agency with extra money. The money will reside in the county contingency fund, used for emergency investigations like this one.
“The sheriff’s office has spent $365,000 on the Kyron Horman investigation so far, Staton said.
“Staton said in no way does the tabling of the issue mean investigators are close to an arrest. ‘The issue could still be brought up again in the future,’ he said.”
Reading different news reports is like tasting vegetable soup made by different cooks in different kitchens who all shopped at different markets and trying to explain what it is to an alien who has never had soup at all.
Toasty 1,
I will defer to Blink when she asserts that the LSL is key, but I gotta say that the way that MC insinuated himself early on in this unfolding saga
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/07/16/kyron-horman-missing-and-endangered-terri-horman-leaves-the-house/comment-page-14/#comment-1607315
One more link. This is from OregonLive.com. I do respect the work of Maxine Bernstein, the reporter. I’ve been associated with other stories she has worked on and found her to be committed to accuracy and fairness.
It seems like I have read that a lot of crimes are solved when LE keeps going back over evidence or facts or whatever, so in that respect I think it helps sometimes to revisit information that has already been posted, because it might make ONE reader think of some small tidbit that no one else thought of. So here are some more random thoughts, just sayin to try to help jog ANYTHING that could be looked at or thought about in a different way.
Has anyone looked into whether or not Kyron had an existing passport? If so, is it missing? Or did TH have one made for him recently maybe? There would be a record. That would be revealing! But fake passports are probably easy to get also.
For some reason I just feel like Kyron was handed over to someone and taken far, far away. Why would anyone risk keeping him close by with all the scrutiny going on and the risk of recognition? Mexico makes the most sense because it’s easy to get there and easy to walk in if you have what you need. Also easy to get lost there. Look at that whole family (the McStays) that disappeared after walking in. Or maybe Ky is at least close to the Mexico border. IDK, I haven’t been to Mexico in years…it used to be really easy to just drive right in (not as easy coming back) but I’m sure it’s not that easy now either way. How does it work these days walking into Mexico? Do they keep a scanned record of passports presented when someone is going in?
Also I’m curious as to how much unaccounted-for time TH had on that day. If she had done something to Kyron herself she would have had to driven like a madwoman to wherever she took him; she would have been a mess afterward, at least hot & sweaty, so she would have had to change clothes. I wonder if she was wearing the same outfit at school that morning that she was wearing when she went to the school bus that afternoon? Again, that might indicate something!! And the baby – if the baby was with her the whole day, of course that means the baby was left unattended in the truck during the science fair. No one has ever come forward to say the baby was elsewhere, unless I missed it. Point is, how could she do something to Ky if the baby was with her? Nah. Makes much more sense that he was handed over and then she went about covering her tracks as best she could and acting like all was normal. If TH so much as got out of the truck in a remote area, evidence of this would have been found in or on her truck. Or in her house like, right around the washing machine/dryer. And I’m sure LE has already done the luminol thing.
KYRON, WHERE ARE YOU LITTLE BOY?
gives me the creeps.
Mme. C
I forgot which site I copied this from, but I didn’t write it:
“Staton said the sheriff’s office is returning $500,000 in contingency funding that was approved last month and another $400,000 from the last budget after his agency was able to hold down costs.
A request by prosecutors seeking an extra $196,000 for a deputy district attorney and a limited time investigator was approved.”
Okay, me again. That is an awful lot of money to think you didn’t have and so you request a big chunk of money then you find you have it and all of a sudden the board approves you getting more money and you no longer need it. (?)
Does this seem odd? And this comes after a three hour meeting with Kaine. I don’t know if this is anything more than coincidence and bad accounting, BUT my first thought was that LE found Kyron or that it was related to a ransom.
I don’t know what any of these developments mean. Anyone who can clue me in? TIA!
Blink – have you heard any more news of the Edward Dames claim he knows where Kyron is? I read LE was going to look into it but haven’t found anything new. Thanks for your time and hard work to help these victims.
why are the LE making so many references to October?
Well, this is one for the record books and renews my faith in humanity. I don’t recall ever seeing this kind of willingness to share budget resources between 2 diff. govt. entities/depts/whatever. Warm fuzzy feelings here.
Trying not to over-interpret that; it does invite speculation on where the Kyron matter resides w. respect to the respective roles of sheriff and DA.
twinkletoes: back at ‘cha; look for your posts too. Knew you were a lawyer, but thought dancing might be a hobby. Some really great ballroom dancers are lawyers.
Maybe, just maaaaaaaaybeeeeeeeee the reason for request for more funds for the search has been delayed is because more evidence has been discovered? News did report that over 2,000 subpoenas had been issued and they anticipate more…. keep in mind that one of those subpoenas could be to the doctors office regarding Kyron’s doctor appt – was it for June 4th or 11th? Was there ever one made, etc.
So just think about it. Then re-read everything again. Then think about it.
They say the first 48 hrs. are the most important. Sad thought, considering how many days it has been.
#23 I share your feelings.
Well, somewhat encouraging indications that something is about to break in the latest news/statements. Feeling hopeful they will find our little tree frog expert after all…. Please, please let it be so and soon!
1. “[DA Michael ] Schrunk said ‘we are confident of a good resolution (in the Kyron Horman case), and legally.’” Wonder if they’ve negotiated a deal with Houze? The comment “and legally” seems pretty specific. Or maybe the Grand Jury has given a go-ahead?
2. “Outside the county board room, Staton told reporters that Kyron’s stepmom, Terri Moulton Horman, has cooperated and agreed to all requests so far from investigators. He declined to name any person of interest in the case, but he said an upcoming press release will answer many of the public’s questions about the case.”
3. “A written statement will be released no later than Friday July 23, 2010.
The Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office would also like to announce that a press conference is scheduled for Tuesday July 27, 2010[....]
Present at this conference will be Chief Deputy Tim Moore and Lead Investigator of the Kyron case Sgt. Lee Gosson. The purpose of this press conference will be to provide an update of the case.”
snapoutofit says:
July 21, 2010 at 11:53 pm
“And yes, I know some other stuff too that I can’t say.”
Do tell! Or are you under a gag order? As you say, we keep rehashing the same old shit. And I’m sure people other than I would like a new piece of information that might help us make some sense out of this.
Beejay and Twinkletoes, I’m not as unconvinced as you are, but I definitely don’t think I have enough knowledge to judge that anyone is guilty for sure.
Kaine’s comment that he believes at some point Terri will be arrested keeps ringing in my ears
Just wondering where our man Anselmo was between June 4 and his arrest on July 8. On vacation? New luggage?
SS,
I don’t know about Mexico but I have thought about why the HopeinVA tag. Is there hope in Virginia for TH and squirreled away children? Who does Terri know and trust in VA that she could arrange this until she got all of the kids safely there? I hope the FBI have thought of this already if the possibility is just now occurring to me. At least this scenario would include a live Kyron.
@16.HK says:
July 21, 2010 at 5:07 pm
I should mention that I have been suspicious of KH since he went to the gym on the same evening his son disappeared.
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The gym was the HQ for fliers, posters etc for our missing boy. Unsure at what point it became so however.
I have a theory about Terri’s angst over the polygraphs. In the very beginning when they had met with LE, she immediately began to express angst about taking one. I think it was another performance designed to make everyone think she might fail because she was so nervous about the process, in an attempt, in case she failed, that they might think it was because she was nervous, not because she was lying. In other words, creating confusion and doubt among her observers just like the confusion and doubt of that Friday with the doctor’s appt.
Blink, what do you think of this possible scenario?
Terri has affair of some kind with LS. Maybe just flirt/text/sexting, whatever, students, teachers and others at the school notice it. He says ‘she led me on’.(we know LE have seen these texts, to compare them to the texts with Micheal Cook) This makes LS mad. He harasses her, maybe gets threatening over time. This could account for some of the LE calls to that area we have seen records of. He demands money from her or he will tell of affair or hurt her or maybe there was a MFH. She has no money to give him. He comes up with an idea to kidnap Kyron for ransom. Maybe even offers to split it with her, she can divorce Kaine and move on with her life, or sue the school for money later. She agrees to do it. This is a month or more before June 4. This is when Kaine notices her mood improving. They begin to plan.
She sets up the confusion about doctors appointment and using the truck (although I can’t figure out why she needed it.) There is no plan to hurt Kyron.
They will need to use an associate that Kyron won’t know to tell of later, he says.
This can explain why this case looked so much like a kidnapping for quite awhile and why Terri looked so ‘odd’ at the first PC. I noticed then that there was a huge change in her appearance and behavior from the first PC to the second one just two days later. she didn’t look so much like she was faking it at the second. Because:
The LS and Assoc. never intended to go through with a kidnapping for ransom. This was done because he was pissed off at Terri. Instead, no ransom note or call comes. Maybe that Saturday between the two PC, instead Kyron’s glasses show up with no note. This was not the plan, now she is worried for real. Kyron is really gone.
She can’t say anything because she is guilty of setting this up. The LE find her texts in the past to the LS, when they ‘talk’ to him, he comes up with the MFH story to cover himself, and further punish Terri, or maybe it is true. The LE like it, but have no proof. Hence, the awful ‘sting’ attempt.
She could have passed almost all of the lie detector test except for question/s about ‘do you know anyone…’
This would explain her appearing to be involved with the pre-meditation, her odd behavior, and why she can’t say what she knows to help without incriminating herself. Also how she can be guilty without having planned any harm to come to Kyron.
The hanging chad in this is the need for the lousy lie to get the truck. I can’t figure that out without knowing what excuse she gave Kaine later for not having the project. Maybe all of the above is wrong and she just did this all herself and needed the truck to do it. But, I can’t see a motive for that.
Just my ideas of trying to pull the different aspects of this together.
What do you think?
Our ladies on KOIN news at 4:00 pm today are saying that the DA says he is trial ready if an arrest is made in this case. A hearing was supposed to be held today in city council asking for more an additional $400,000 to fund the continued work on this case, but that request was apparently cancelled. At least this is what I am hearing on our local news.
@24 by mockingbirdsings: Your last paragraph is priceless and sums up exactly how I feel about this case. There is so much out there that reads like fact, but is really just hearsay. It hurts my head. I usually only post links to articles that I think might answer questions that have been asked here. There are so very little known facts that have been confirmed I don’t feel comfortable speculating. I hate the latest article that states LE expects a “good resolution”. It gives me hope that Kyron may come home alive. This little guy has stolen my heart and taken over my thoughts all with a smile!
Thoughts are with you always Kyron.
http://www.kgw.com/news/local/Source-Tualatin-homes-of-Terri-Hormans-friends-searched-kyron-missing-portland-99062069.html
I’m not surprised. I’d like to know if they found anything. I am holding my breath here, waiting for an arrest.
Source: Homes of Terri Horman’s friends searched
PORTLAND, Ore. –”Sources tell KGW police have searched the homes of three friends of Kyron Horman’s step-mother in the past week to look for evidence in the case”
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/07/16/kyron-horman-missing-and-endangered-terri-horman-leaves-the-house/#comments
Naming sources on Kyron Horman coverage
“Some users of KGW.com have wondered about our use of a “reliable source” for information in the Kyron Horman investigation. For example, one person wrote that it appeared that KGW had risked its journalistic integrity or perhaps was using a Tabloid-style of reporting to get a scoop in the case.”
http://www.kgw.com/community/blogs/reporters-blog/Naming-sources-on-Kyron-Horman-coverage-98444134.html
Not sure if this is ok to post as it is somewhat off topic and from another site, but I was reading about sociopathic behavior (specifically someone who was writing about Casey Anthony, another tragic case). And correct me if I’m wrong but does anyone else think that TH may be exhibiting these same traits?
http://blogcritics.org/culture/article/casey-anthony-profile-of-a-sociopath/
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/07/16/kyron-horman-missing-and-endangered-terri-horman-leaves-the-house/#comments
“One of the unidentified friends reportedly had information on Terri Moulton-Horman’s whereabouts on the day Kyron disappeared from Skyline Elementary on June 4. The friend may have violated a judge’s orders by seeing a then-sealed restraining order, filed against Terri by Kyron’s father Kaine Horman, according to the sources.”
“Two of the homes were in Tualatin. A third search warrant at an undiclosed location was executed Thursday. Sources tell KGW investigators decided to obtain the search warrants after examining cell phone records, emails and conducting surveillance. All three friends had spent “significant” amount of time with Terri since the case began, sources said.”