Morgan Harrington Murder: A Security Check On Security- Why Did It Fail?
Charlottesville, VA-
On the afternoon of October 17, 2009, Morgan Harrington and three of her friends drove to John Paul Jones Arena, located on the University of Virginia campus, to attend a long-anticipated Metallica concert. Following an apparent fall and chin injury occurring around the time she was visiting the ladies room, Morgan ended up outside the arena and attempted to gain re-entry to the venue.
How and why she got there comes in at a baffling second only compared to what happened to her next.
Nine months ago Dr. Dan and Gil Harrington, Morgan’s parents were notified their daughter was missing which is when their nightmare began.
On November 5, 2009, the day before a search which was organized at the request of the Harrington’s was to commence, a vintage black Pantera t-shirt placed on a bush in front of an apartment complex at the intersection near 15th Street and Grady Ave. was located by a nearby resident.
While this discovery was not released publicly, Charlottesville PD knew immediately it belonged to Morgan Harrington. Sara Snead, one of the friends that accompanied Morgan to the concert, immediately confirmed the distinct vintage design that compelled Morgan to borrow the t-shirt from her a week before the show.
Subsequently, DNA analysis confirmed the t-shirt was indeed the same one Morgan was wearing the night she disappeared.
On January 26, 2010 the remains of Morgan Harrington were discovered by David Bass, owner of Anchorage Farm, located in Albemarle County. Although her cause of death has not been released, her manner of death has been classified as a homicide by the Virginia State Police.
Dan and Gil Harrington marked the nine-month anniversary of Morgan’s disappearance from her memorial on Copeley Bridge 4 days ago.
Gil Harrington’s impassioned statement made it clear that her family’s mission is to prevent what happened to Morgan from happening to another victim and their goal is to educate young women about safety and personal security.
On July 1st, based upon an article posted on blinkoncrime.com inside sources confirmed a forensic link between Morgan’s homicide and a Fairfax County Case. Research on this case indicates it was a violent sexual assault that happened in 2005. The victim assisted in the sketch of a man police wish to interview in connection with both the Fairfax assault as well as the apparent abduction and murder of Morgan Harrington. .
What did it mean to the investigation and to the parents of young women in Charlottesville? We have a serial offender on the loose in multiple jurisdictions and an immediate need to beef up personal security.
As our very vulnerable student body returns to campus next month, blinkoncrime.com provides a glimpse at current conditions.
Unregulated Regulations In Security
The 2004 General Assembly, through House Joint Resolution (HJR122), requested the Virginia State Crime Commission to study safety at Virginia’s institutions of higher education. As a result, DCJS created the Office of Campus Policing and Security (OCPS) to address the law requiring minimum training and employment standards for campus security officers.
Campus Security Regulations for Institutions of Higher Education in the State of Virginia, fall under the Virginia Department of Criminal Justice Services (DCJS) Private Security Services Advisory Board. Below is an excerpt of the unapproved draft meeting notes of their quarterly meeting held December 8, 2009; the first and only since Morgan’s disappearance from JPJ.
The issue of safety and security on college campuses was addressed in a 2006 Crime Commission Study on Campus Safety. This study resulted in the statutory requirements under Code of Virginia (Code) §9.1-102 (49).
College populations represent a large concentration of students between the ages of 18-25 years with limited supervision and life experience. In terms of homeland security, campuses are identified as “soft targets” and are frequently targeted by domestic and foreign terrorists. Campuses also house volatile materials and research facilities that are also targeted by radical elements in society. Campuses host large stadium events and concerts that are potential targets for terrorism and riots. Most campuses also have facilities that are open to the public and are relatively difficult to secure and lockdown. Campus Security Officers are primary first responders to incidents of crime and violence on campus.
Although UVA campus security officers require a certification provided by DCJS, there are ZERO regulatory standards for certification. It was NOT until Morgan Harrington disappeared from the grounds of the JPJ Arena that emergency regulations were sought from Governor Bob McDonnell.
How does a woman on the campus of a University that provides it’s very own Police Department in addition to event security simply vanish without a trace?
By the time Morgan ends up in a hay field 7 miles away, she has passed through 3 different law enforcement jurisdictions and a slew of private campus and event security agencies and personnel. While private security regulations fall under the umbrella of the Virginia Department of Criminal Justice Services, they also require a judicial amendment only if and when they are approved via “emergency” status by the Governor.
Who’s Looking Out For The Kids, Exactly?
As the safety on campus study showed, our college age kids are at their most vulnerable in the University setting. Out from under the watchful eye of Mom and Dad and wading through the rich culture and nightlife of downtown Charlottesville, students face a host of potential safety risks.
In fact, during the very development of this article, I received an alert from UVA security that a UVA student was sexually assaulted in the area of Roosevelt Boulevard. While I commend the swift response and warning from UVA PD chief Michael Gibson, I can’t help but wonder if a similar alert upon learning Morgan disappeared from the UVA/JPJ campus would have made a difference for her.
A simple Google of “Charlottesville security” produces the front page for HH Security Services, Inc, a local private security and bail bonding firm. I am no expert but isn’t it a bit odd to claim to protect one’s security and then bond out someone that may threaten it in the first place?
Who is vetting the security that is responsible for ensuring safety?
While HH Security or it’s employees have no known ties whatsoever to the Harrington case, it is a prime example of the weakness of current security regulations, involving students and private events, 6 years in the making.
At H & H Security Services, Inc. we specialize in Private Investigation, Private Security both armed and unarmed as well as fast efficient Civil Process Service. Our full-time professional agents are well trained, well equipped, well informed, and discreet.? Owner Rod Howard is a native of Charlottesville and central Virginia, where he’s been a well respected business owner for over twenty years. H & H Security Services, Inc. is his vehicle in his effort to help serve and protect the community he grew up in. Over the years he’s assembled a team of certified and experienced personnel who share his commitment to the safety of the community.
HH Security, in a business journal ad, claims to hire members of law enforcement and be very well connected with various police departments and security agencies for nightclubs, special events and home security checks as well in 2007.
HH Security is the security firm of choice for Club 216, Buffalo Wild Wings, and Rivals, which are bars frequently visited by UVA students and athletes.
Roderick M Howard, owner of HH Security and H&H Car detailing maintains active licenses issued through the VA Dept of Criminal Justice Services for private security and as a bailbondsman.
While blinkoncrime editors were researching this piece, a review of Albemarle County Court records show Roderick Howard was arrested for felony rape in 1993, subsequently indicted for same and a year later on the first day of trial, pled guilty to misdemeanor sexual battery whereby he was sentenced to 12 months, 11 of which were suspended and two years unsupervised probation.
Howard was also arrested a few times for felony bad checks; both cases ended nolle prosequi.
How can an accused rapist and convicted sexual batterer hold a dual license in the private security sector as well as two classifications of firearms, all of which is monitored by the VADCJS? It is specifically stated in the regulations regarding moral turpitude AND sexual battery that the VADCJS MAY DENY an applicant on those grounds.
According to Mr. Howard’s own advertisement, he has been in the security industry since 1989. Would that mean he was employed in the security field when he was arrested for rape?
Shockingly, It may be perfectly legal. Although the administrative statute for licensure prohibits granting a license to someone with a misdemeanor sexual battery conviction, if Howard divulged the crime in his application and requested a waiver from the director at the time, it is possible one was granted.
Blinkoncrime.com spoke to Lisa McGee, Regulatory Program Manager for DCJS, private security advisory committee:
“…there is a code in the statute that allows the potential for both an individual convicted of a felony and the outlined misdemeanors exceptions contained therein to obtain a director’s waiver. Two felonies we would never even consider are rape and murder, but dependent upon the criminal offense, the circumstances and the length of time that has transpired with a clean record, the verbiage in the statute would allow an applicant to at least request a waiver for our consideration…” Lisa McGee
Ms. McGee was not able to address Mr. Howard’s file specifically, citing privacy laws, but she was able to verify that Mr. Howard’s registration with the agency is current.
There are however, some discrepancies in the press release written to announce the “restructuring” of both companies, announced October 19th.
For starters, there was only a name change to Mr. Howard’s business, which actually took place prior to the October 19 release date, in May, 2009.
These are not two separate businesses. In fact, the bailbondsman license issued to Mr. Howard’s agent, Anthony Halstead, leads back to Accelerated Bail Bonds, which is not a listed entity in the state of Virginia or listed as a fictitious name for H&H Security Services.
I would be willing to wager that the police departments that allow off duty security employment with this firm would appreciate some clarification on both the personnel and licensing issues.
There has been no arrest in the homicide of Morgan Harrington. In a statement released by Corrine Geller, PR manager for the Virginia State Police, VSP has received approximately 100 significant leads from the release of the sketch of the alleged perpetrator of the 2005 Fairfax County sex assault.
Dan and Gil Harrington will be meeting with new University of Virginia President, Teresa Sullivan, next month to address safety and security issues on campus.
“..People think it cannot happen to them, IT CAN– Dan Harrington.”
Editors Note: I am not a resident of Virginia. However, I think the interest of the safety of our children is a National one. Any person that is placed in a position of public trust, most especially those that come into contact with our vulnerable students, should be REQUIRED to disclose past convictions that would negate them that position without some sort of subjective “pass”. How can we know-TRULY KNOW the level of presumed safety if we really aren’t aware of the backgrounds of those in charge of it?
Blinkoncrime.com editors Jason Mateos, Elizabeth Morton and Madeline Tanner contributed to this report
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Mom3.0
You apparently missed the exchange Blink and I had about playing football. An elbow or a knee in the face can put you temporarly in limbo. You can almost function as normal, but you will have no recolection of what happened during that time. The operative word here is “almost”. You would depend on what others were telling you to perform.
Your Jan 26th article reference reminded me of the four tickets to the concert that Dr. Harrington purchased. Did I miss something? Did this concert and party trip begin with four, two guys and two girls or was it one guy and three girls?
Was Morgan’s remark about getting a ride to the person she called inside the arena just an angry remark to say “Ok you guys, you will not help me so I’ll just get a ride from someone else”. Only they know.
Dr Harrington,as a concerned father, purchased four tickets to the concert to provide safety for the group and then they have some sort of unknown argument and they let Morgan go off alone. That is so selfish,immature and childish.
Blinks gasket analogy is good. I hope LE keeps the pressure on these three until the gasket totally breaks and the whole truth comes pouring out.
Appology accepted about the typos. You must be a very fast typist with you mind pushing your fingers like that. We all do it from time to time. Sometimes I look back at a sentence and it is so poorly constructed and typed that I think my brain has a disconnect.
Is Blink saying that this guy from the house that burned was claiming to be in Peru and yet his internet service provider was indicating an IP address in Charlottesville? That is a little strange. Ip addresses can be spoofed, but did this guy know how to do it? He may have never left the area. Instead, he could have been hanging out with other people and keeping his whereabouts secret.
Katie
You did the right thing by attacking that guy verbally. You completely threw him off of his plan and by the time he recovered, it was too late to continue.
connie says:
September 19, 2010 at 8:54 pm
RE: Sex offenders need to receive the mark of the beast across their foreheads for all to be warned. Seriously.
It looks like he absconded.
OT, Re the missing girl from Orange, VA. Someone could have hacked her myspace, I guess, but it appears that she has accepted several friend requests in the past week.
http://www.myspace.com/badgirlwithalittleangel
I am so sick of these lenient sentences on “petty criminals.” It seems to me that most of the time we hear of an arrest of someone suspected of either a brutal sex offense or murder that they turn out to have long histories of other crimes. How is it that so many rapists are out in under six years? Many of those convicted of rape have previous arrest records for burglaries, assaults and very often other lesser sex offenses.
There should be lengthier sentences, which are not eligible for the two day credit for every day served, for burglaries to occupied dwellings, any type of abduction, and any sexual assault. These are most likely not “petty crimes” and should no longer be considered and treated as such. History has proven that certain crimes lead to more serious acts.
It would seem that Judges need to keep this in mind (as in the type of crime committed) when they hand down a sentence. And, while they are at it, maybe they should consider a defendant’s priors and in the case of anyone with a history of violent assaults, of any kind including malicious wounding, abduction with intent to defile and murder, that there can be no plea bargaining for those criminals!
It is time to punish real criminals with serious time.
My rant is over for now…until we read of the next guy, with a long arrest record, who rapes, mutilates and murders yet another innocent soul.
Yep, after all, you are the boss.
O my dear Fishster you know how that goes-
Boss of what is the question, lol.
B
Mom3.0, seems that we are all on the same page on your post above.
“The friends are the rubber washer.
Put that on, and it will fly through the other end so we can see what it is. (That is called a colonic!)
I feel for what they are living through. However, they have the luxury of actually “living”. B”
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Well, I would be happy to invite them over and see first hand, what keeping a secret is really like.
Secrets of violence, rage, abuse.
My oh my, how direct could I be?
Well, one could suppose extremely direct.
I pray they were forthcoming but if not there is always Starbuck’s and a chat over a skinny latte.
No joke there. Witnessed firsthand.
Open invite to any and all of them…
Blink says:
The canine evidence, unless and until we know it’s origin, is useless.
We do not know what k9 certifications are held, or the handlers.
We do not know the strategy of the alert, if an actual alert occurred, which in and of itself, without proper k9 corroboration, is useless.
Were traks run, on what dates, on what perimeter, with what scent, qualifications of dog/handler- corroborated/specimen accuracy, was there a control, was there a false (placebo), weather conditions, data verifications for use in determining perimeter.. etc..
I am simply attempting to demonstrate that k9 use has many controls, and the outcome or result is looked at differently in different LE agencies, specifically trained in this area.
Props to Bink, though.
B
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Bink – was that the canine that was killed in the line of duty? If so, who was Bink’s k9 partner/handler? Was he one of the officers that was involved in the Colby Epperd incident?
No Bink is new.
Quaker is the new Fire Marshall canine, put in action March 12, 2010
B
I see a reference to Kevin Sandridge to Fairfax VA.
Kevin Sandridge sold a firetruck Pumper to Goochland Courthouse Fire Dept., Waynesboro.
This Singer Sentinel is from there.
http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:J-9xc_qW3lYJ:www.singerassociates.com/documents/Sentinel_Summer2009.pdf+Kevin+Sandridge+Charlottesville&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESgej-WUjSMqcUAWR48-U1RDO0UnC1oY54hfiu5jqPTifb_R3yPvV2hh01X44AncO903W6PK5lC0koWDq1zh9RPIhjyCEVHRL4GjFkJAqJ883xBmRjgRsvizAhN4CHmsbS0X0XWk&sig=AHIEtbSOarfPxE2zecn11kohNFzLOasUuA
Also, I had taken note that both Scott & Melissa Halstead were big fans of Grand Furniture. That has always been weird to me, but I ran across old obits, where a Sandridge owned one for 30something years.
Some really crazy stuff.
** Your eyeball Blink banner is gone again. How will weknow when you have a new article?
I stepped away for the weekend and now I am checking back in. Seeing all of the thinking and research going on here, I am simply amazed and in awe.
I can only say, Katie, good job on quick thinking, you did great.
Texas Grand: great eyes to spot that hidden truck.
To others: so much good information and research to ponder…
Regarding comments on “the bridge”: I can see how Morgan’s parents would embrace the symbolism of “bridge” as a connector with Morgan. Even if many do not buy the HH story, (which I personally think makes a good story for disconnecting Morgan’s fate from UVA, and especially in Casteen’s last year,) I can see the comfort of the symbolism “bridge.”
If Morgan’s parents are happy with the Bridge Placque, so am I.
I hope the police are looking at the incidents and people in the parking lot encounters very strongly, however.
As regards the new information on Valerie Hamilton, that is very sad, and distressing. From reading one article on the suspect, it sounds like he was arrested quite a bit for serious matters, but for some unknown reason did not spend much time behind bars.
Sounds sort of similar to some of the court action regarding numerous offenders of interest in the Albemarle area. Are some judges just too sympathetic, or what is really going on here?
E
The honor is mine.
B
WTF????? This is alarming! Why would someone do this??? I know why…
From findmorgan.com – http://findmorgan.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4491
Cding went back out to check on the posters she put up at Crossroads in North Garden. Here is her update:
“Here are my finding after I went to Crossroads in North Garden today, I walked up noticed one of the pepsi vending machine had a strung of posters that had been ripped off like somebody got mad and most posters were ripped off and the vending machine bare, so obviously our posters got taken down, i would have to say ab…out 1/2 my posters remained on places like the tall columns by the gas pumps, then i looked to see if the posters were still on the storefront window, i had 2 different ones there and nope, somebody from inside took them down, basically every poster i put inside the store was taken down including my red bull one, one by the eating area and also in the entrance to the store. also the one flyer by the phone booth i put up was taken down and removed. i just tidied up a few things, put a few extra flyers up and gave the bank a flyer down the street and a nice elderly man who owns a laundry mat service in between.”
Don’t know if my last attempt to post this took – don’t see it in moderation. So, if a duplicate, my apologies…
WTF?? Someone is taking down Morgan posters in North Garden!
From findmorgan.com
http://findmorgan.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4491
ding went back out to check on the posters she put up at Crossroads in North Garden. Here is her update:
“Here are my finding after I went to Crossroads in North Garden today, I walked up noticed one of the pepsi vending machine had a strung of posters that had been ripped off like somebody got mad and most posters were ripped off and the vending machine bare, so obviously our posters got taken down, i would have to say ab…out 1/2 my posters remained on places like the tall columns by the gas pumps, then i looked to see if the posters were still on the storefront window, i had 2 different ones there and nope, somebody from inside took them down, basically every poster i put inside the store was taken down including my red bull one, one by the eating area and also in the entrance to the store. also the one flyer by the phone booth i put up was taken down and removed. i just tidied up a few things, put a few extra flyers up and gave the bank a flyer down the street and a nice elderly man who owns a laundry mat service in between.”
Judi-
is it the wanted poster of Sketch, or the combination? Does this kind person taking their time to do that have permission from the merchants? If she does, than technically, that is a form of vandalism.
B
I’m sure you all have probably seen this before. I haven’t. Very, very touching….
http://www.momlogic.com/2010/01/morgan_harrington_lovely_bones.php
This guy is from NY and Charlottesville would be a mid-point of sorts between NY and NC. I know its a long shot, but worth looking at.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/09/20/north.carolina.chiefs.daughter/index.html?hpt=T2
I have to admit he gave me pause, but not our guy for Morgan.
B
Blink,
I am so glad you are keeping Morgan’s story alive with your focus and attention.
I am feeling sad for another young lady who disappeared last October–the 10th and was found murdered in December near Liberty University.
The Harringtons have been incredible, strong advocates for their daughter and I have the utmost respect for them and pray Morgan’s killer will be found.
My sense is that Cassandra’s parents do not have the resources and perhaps, connections to keep their own daughter’s story alive. My heart breaks for them because they are as heartbroken about their daughter as the Harringtons are for their own. I know the Harringtons are trying to improve safety for ALL young women–they are truly heros in my book.
My question to you is, would you consider doing a small article about Cassandra and placing it on your site? The police are “hitting the pavement” again to find answers and the timing could be so helpful to maybe helping track down Cassandra’s killer.
You are a phenomenol advocate, and I hope you will consider doing a piece on Cassandra.
Respectfully submitted.
I would absolutely, or will incorporate it into a piece which includes her case, it will depend upon what the preliminary research looks like.
B
Private-
Sorry Blink I forgot the link
http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/09/20/north.carolina.chiefs.daughter/index.html?hpt=T2
My heart breaks. This guy had no efing business being on the street, he has a rap sheet longer than my arm.
B
Blink, I think my last post got lost about the Morgan signs being taken down in NG.
I will get there Judi- had to be out of town unexpectedly all weekend, catching up.
B
F.Y.I.
Operation Guardian.. Arrests of S.O. who fail to register.
Arrested at various locations in recent weeks were: Steve Ray Stewart, 59, of Lynchburg, Virginia, Herman Cave, 51, of Winchester, Virginia, Francis David Sherman, 55, of Bristol, Virginia and Jason Lee Bess, 36, of Franklin County, Virginia.
http://www.newsplex.com/home/headlines/103282744.html
Welcome, and of course.
Just got that other post, thank you. I love your “hat”. Feel free to use it as necessary on the aforementioned.
B
Posts I saw from way back when right after they found her: these stood out:
33.Chad says:
January 29, 2010 at 3:42 pm
Just saw this on FMDHFB. I know this is just conversation, and ONLY just conversation, but I found this interesting. Liam, I hope you do not mind that I post this here from you discussion over at FMDFB.
Post #143
Liam Fahy wroteabout an hour ago
John,
All due respect, Morgan Harrington did have an ex,
i believe Dan said she didnt have a “current” b/f.
Her ex hasn`t been mentioned possibly for a number of reasons but i have good information that he is abusive and had an argument with her on Oct. 16th.
LE have been aware of this since day 1 dont you worry about that.
It doesnt imply any involvement on his part but i believe he is a POI.
Also a certain EMT guy who has previously worked security at JPJ is another POI, he cannot account for himself while Mettalica was onstage. He too became seperated from his friends inside the arena around this time and only met up with them in the parking lot AFTER the concert had finished. I believe he is not known to Ms Harrington but is known to one of her friends. The person responsible will be caught, there is evidence pending which will lead to an arrest and a conviction.
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Post #144
Caty Dawn wrote53 minutes ago
liam.
interesting. i actually heard (through a LE “grapevine”) that they were interested in someone who was an employee of JPJ. so the security guy would fit that bill. and the fact that he, too, has no alibi for that time period? geez, how convenient. he could easily have followed her if he saw her alone, out to smoke, maybe he had seen her around or was familiar with her due to a common friend? surely he was raked over the coals, already. i never saw anything about it in the media. hmmmm. you’re right, it is a matter of time…perp will go down.
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Post #145
Liam Fahy wrote49 minutes ago
He wasn`t working as security that night, he has previously worked there.
He went with friends to the concert that night, was seated in the same area as Ms Harrington and has already admitted to seeing her that night. He cannot account for himself with certainty where he was when Mettalica was onstage.
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Post #146
Caty Dawn wrote43 minutes ago
thanks, liam. right, i understood what you meant, that he was there as a concert-goer that night. still, an employee-connection to JPJ would fit with what i had heard early on, that LE was looking in that direction, that there was an interest in someone who worked at the arean. hoping for news soon so justice can prevail for morgan!
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Post #147
Dayna Scott Hutson wrote31 minutes ago
So Liam that leaves 2 possibilities. The missing guy (know who that is), & the boyfriend. Another possibility I’ve given thought to is more than 1 person was involved. That will be determined in ….. or was in autopsy. Missing guy has some questionable associates as well.
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Post #148
Cory Evans (N.C. State) wrote27 minutes ago
Liam out of curiosity, what is your connection to these people? From what I can tell you are located in Ireland. How do you know this information? I mean no disrespect, just trying to understand.
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Post #149
Liam Fahy wrote15 minutes ago
I have no connection to anybody in the USA and have got all this information through the net. Take it for what it`s worth but i believe most of it to be true.
Missing guy is known to SS.
Not likely that 2 people were involved in Ms Harrington`s death although it is possible she could have had plans to meet up with “A” and for some reason this didnt happen and “B” stepped in to “help”, if you get my drift.
Im just trying to help in any way i can.
TO CONCERNED MOM:
ARE YOU EFFING KIDDING ME?
THUD.
B
ps. wouldn’t his employer be listed?
Pepper-
I am going to shorten your name because it reminds me of one of my fave shows I used to watch with my Daddy…
Pop Quiz everyone- what was it?
I would also like to share an article I read today on stalking. This PI blog is new to me, but impressive, take a look, great piece about stalking-
http://diaryofaprivateeye.blogspot.com/
B
After listening to me talk about Morgan for all of these months, my wife dropped this scenario on me that made me think…
She said, “What if her friends refused to give her the keys to her car because they knew she was a bit too intoxicated? Protecting her. I would have gotten ticked off and told them, ‘Fine, I will find another ride home.’ I would have looked for a party to check out if I was already partying previously. If someone told her that a party was going on up at AF, they MIGHT not have to lure her or snatch her up. They both could have walked to the location from Red Hill or another road on their own accord if the suspect told Morgan that it was a bonfire or outdoor party.”
Bless the Harringtons–
In regards to Blink’s statement 9.20.10 at 12:43:
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would absolutely, or will incorporate it into a piece which includes her case, it will depend upon what the preliminary research looks like.
B
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Fabulous! This would give her case more well-deserved attention! Cassandra’s killer is also walking free and posing a threat in Central Virginia. You rock, Blink!
Are you able to put together some source links to her case info as a preliminary?
B
Concerned Mom-
I do not advocate it, but you may just be the reason for a premature adult beverage today.
Something tells me you beat me to it.
I need to ask, which one?
B
Very.
Go.
Blink,
According to the poster (she was asked that very question about permission), her response was “I ASKED THE POLICE MAN AT THE SUB STATION AND HE SAID I COULD PUT THEM UP PRETTY MUCH ANYWHERE AND I SHOULDN’T GET IN TROUBLE WITH IT. AND THAT MOST PEOPLE WOULD BE ON MY SIDE.” and then in another response when asked which ones were taken down, the poster said “Hey Everyone, So I Grabbed My Friend Liz And We Went Back Out There Since Her Children Live In North Garden, I Decided We Should Check On Things Again, Basically All The Posters On The Vending Machines Remained Untouched, The Ones That I Put Up On The Gas Columns Were All Taken Down, Probaby By Management. The Store Front Windows Do Not Have The Posters Up. I Will Check There Periodically. Hope All Is Well With Everyone!”
As far as what the posters were of, she posted pictures and it looks like a combination of the regular Morgan posters and then also ones with Sketch’s pictures.
Blink, several days ago I said something about wondering why the friends chose to say Morgan was studying in the back seat. You asked for a link. I’m going crazy looking, for 2 days. I didn’t make it up. It was said somewhere, by someone. After 11 months, we still don’t know what is real and what is rumor. I’m so lost here. Poor Morgan.
OT: Marco Gonzalez has been found!
Thank you, Lord.
OMG, that is why the friends fought. She was going to meet up w/ this person and they were warning her. Could it be……….?
RE: 29.pepper-spray says:
September 20, 2010 at 3:13 pm
Welcome, you really caught my attention. You must have something that substantiates these conversations? Will Blink allow you to elaborate futher?
Morgan did not have any plans to meet up with anyone outside the concert. Sarah called her because they did not know where she was.
B
Reading btwn the lines here-
Concerned Mom,
Be careful, sounds like you may have met someone.
Pepper, was that a K9 dog or something? Really dont remember.
Is our new BOC member a PI? I know you wont say.
Judi, that stinks about the posters being torn down. Do you think it could have been the merchant?
Police Woman!
DING DING DING!!!!
Winner Winner Chicken Dinner (virtual).
Nicely done Saramom-
When I was learning how to “clear” a doorway or visual obstruction, I would use her move , lol.
B
41.alexandra says:
September 20, 2010 at 4:16 pm
Blink, several days ago I said something about wondering why the friends chose to say Morgan was studying in the back seat. You asked for a link. I’m going crazy looking, for 2 days. I didn’t make it up. It was said somewhere, by someone. After 11 months, we still don’t know what is real and what is rumor. I’m so lost here. Poor Morgan.
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I believe I read that somewhere on FM, as per Dr H. Don’t quote me, but that is what comes to mind.( whether that is still avail over there ?, I cant seem to get logged in, lol)
alexandra – I remember the “studying in the backseat” comment too…It was posted on here, but was always batted back and forth. I am not sure people believed it. Dont worry, you arent going crazy!!
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both girls have FB, who’s going to send a message? Where’s Liam?
I did not understand this A-
B
I recall that statement about Morgan studying in the backseat. Way back – I think it was at the very beginning. I didn’t buy it.
OK, I have a concern. Can you pls tell me that the POS Wm. Douglas Gentry is not out of jail after what he did w/ cuz to the McGowan girl.
I have spent a ton of time looking all that mess up. His photos from 2007 etc sure resemble the guy in the closed fb,minus the facial hair. I cannot find him in the circuit court records, looking in Albemarle and Louisa. The crime occurred along the Rivanna, wouldnt that be Albemarle? I also looked into his girlfriend at the time, Jenna Critzer. If she isnt the poster child for humanity. Ugh. But, her fb has a family photo taken 6/10, with….the same looking guy. So, why the hell is he out?
Link to fb page:
Jenna Critzer
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000967760288&ref=ts
Sounds like in Jan Pritchett was in jail. What about the other?
Posted by: former resident Location: annandale va on Jan 29, 2010 at 12:21 AM
i personally knew both boys they were abused growing up but no excuse for this behavior life isn’t enough they toke Ms.McGwans life death would be suitable but not enough i dated mikes mother Doris for two years i thoght i made an impact on her children must not have but again she also dated donald bishop who’s imprisoned for a sex crime his brother mark bishop was just convicted and sentenced to 27 yrs for raping his own daughter and mikes mother died 3 yrs ago smoking crack in a hotel i’m very sorry i couldn’t do more to help this child it may have saved ms. mcgawans life then again who knows what these bastards were thinking when they committed this crime my prayers are with jaynes family i hope in prison these boys will become ladies which i know will happen william is at sussex 1 now he just watched a young kid get stabbed to death in front of him and the assailant told him if he snitched he’d be next he cried and said pa pa i’m scared well he’s not such a big man now he’s a crby
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:prZoFpszRLEJ:www.newsplex.com/home/headlines/82958502.html+William+D+Gentry+sentencing+Charlottesville
Oops my error, Wm is Doug. So he was in jail, but for how long?
Blink- thought I’d tweak it a little. Somedays I may go with Diet Dr Pepper or in honor of my thrifty mother “Diet Dr Thunder. My fave is Sam’s Choice. Wow. I can totally pull stuff out of thin air and elaborate!
If you don’t mind, I request you stick with one, thanks
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Accomplice Michael Stuart Pritchett is in Albemarle County jail, per Sussex I info.
1424694
Pritchett, Michael S.
Male White Albemarle-Charlottesville Regional Jail
http://www.vadoc.virginia.gov/offenders/locator/results.cfm
We will continue to have crimes committed by people who should not be on the street unless we make it out task to talk to judges and prosecutors, wherever we find them, letting them know that we as citizens are disgusted with this situation and are prepared to do something about it.
The BG are being released because of the cost of incarceration. It is a simple fact of money. How do we solve the money problem? Could every state do as in Arizona with sheriff Joe’s outdoor jails?
Blink you asked a question about boots. I gave you an answer that would suffice for most utility workers. Now, after thinking about the reason for the question, I though of the possibility of boot tracks in the area and marks on the remains. If this is way off base or would compromise anything just delete.
I can only say I am curious about boots, big ones. Maybe the kind that are not stocked so easily.
Thinking out loud- one would need boots on that terrain in that weather.
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I don’t understand why anyone would tear down the posters. What would it matter to them? Local merchants here have fliers in their windows all the time from lost pets to to lost people. I don’t understand this unless it was pissing someone off. Then, the question would be why?
According to http://www.area-codes.com/city/city.asp?state=VA&city=NORTH+GARDEN, from the 2000 census….
NORTH GARDEN, VA Demographic Information
Population: 1,836
White Population: 1,550
Black Population: 229
Hispanic Population: 158
Asian Population: 5
Hawaiian Population: 0
Indian Population: 2
Other Population: 38
Male Population: 908
Female Population: 928
Avg House Value: $140,400.00
Avg Household Income: $42,225.00
Avg Persons Per Household: 2.53
Median Age: 41.00
Median Age (Male): 40.60
Median Age (Female): 42.10
As we all know, there is not a large population here. 908 males in North Garden. Certainly, once you eliminate the too old and the too young, somewhere there lies a killer. I have no doubt.
Blink – brilliant analogy on Morgan’s case and her friends peculiar proposed withholdings of info-
It would be most helpful to have an unobstructed, flow of information as apposed to the trickling over months and months. I agree. Hopefully LE used a plumber’s snake or plunger on the cr*p that was holding things up- and is now able to retrieve free flowing info from the pipeline- possibly this fix has been in place for months.
As to your astute comment below, All I can say is sad but true-
I feel for what they are living through. However, they have the luxury of actually “living”.
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Lee, Hello, you ar3e welcome.
IRT the bridge sighting- I hear ya Lee- I know Morgan’s memorial is on the bridge but I really think with her purse and cell in the lot- the questionable dog alert-and only one “eyewitness” it is more likely that she was last IN that lot. I do not know who MV s or how good her eyesight is or who she saw but if she is the only witness to the bridge and HH But IMO it is NOT enough.
George- i G- good to see you.
IRT the keys I am not sure about Morgan’s keys. Most people keep them on the same set.
Too Slow-Hey- nice to have you around again.
Very smart, someone brought up that possibility- your right it could have happened like that- they kept the keys away from her because they were looking out for her- But if that was the case- then I think one of them would have made the trek outside to be with her, as a friend and as a safety measure.
IMO-I think with the argument- and the bathroom visit by Morgan, they became separated- the keys were inadvertently left with whomever had them meaning NOT Morgan- I don’t think Morgan ever intended on leaving the area-= I think she was waiting to meet up with her friends after the concert. It just makes more sense to me- If you are Pizzed -you don’t nicely leave your car and keys behind for others to ride home comfortably w/out you. You make sure that your car and keys go home w/ you- otherwise how will you know they will get home safely?
Connie, Thank you for informing us about Valerie Hamilton, my condolences to her family and friends. That is weird about the purse and cell- Did it have the battery?
TGF- No I read your football comment- I thought there might have been a specific punch or something that was used, Such as directly to the bridge of the nose or an uppercut……
TGF, Morgan’s dad purchased 4 tickets -friends I believe reimbursed-
In the beginning, it was speculated Morgan and 3 of her life long girlfriends were going to attend – Morgan N IIRC didnt -and DC was reported to have gone instead- but later on this scenario’s truth was questioned so I am still not sure if DC was in the original lineup or not, or if it was a rumor about MN.
It was months later that we found out about DC and than months later that we realized he was not the DD but SS drive to the concert and DC drove after the concert.
Peru-
Yes Blink is saying his ip read Charlottesville when he was supposedly in Peru- Don’t know the whys behind that though. I remember at the time Blink questioned it. But never got an answer.
TJ- interesting ponderings on the girl from Orange’s MySpace- friends… I dont know if it means anything that she has new friends online- people seem to be in a race to accumulate as many as possible. But it scares me how much personal info is on there pages ect.
Fish, I believe if anyone could stir something in the friends it would be you. They would be lucky to have you to talk with about their feelings and whatnot over coffee..
Judi, thank you for reporting on the posters. Seems strange, but as Blink said, if these kind well meaning volunteers do not get express permission from the business owners, they shouldn’t place the posters. Im gonna wait to hear more regarding this before I become too offended. Like I said seems strange.
Eloise- Cw -everyone great research lately. I am humbled to be a part of such a caring & intelligent group of people.
Blink, I probably shouldn’t have made the FB remark. Fish was sorta inviting the friends for coffee and discussion. I remember Liam was gutsy and would friend ppl on FB and invite them to talk to us. Both WT and McDaniel came over. I don’t suppose Amy or Sarah would ever talk to us. sigh
I can only say I am curious about boots, big ones. Maybe the kind that are not stocked so easily.
Thinking out loud- one would need boots on that terrain in that weather.
B
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Hmm, boots you say. The site below has all kinds of boots. All terrain, standard workboot, military tacticle, firemen, you name it they have it. And discounted too for those on a tight budget.
http://www.discountedboots.com/
Blink and TGF boots –
Blink it sounds to me that you are refering more to steel toed boots
They can do some serious damage. Doc Martins and Grinders come readily to mind.
http://www.heelandsoleshoes.com/browser/2/117/browse.html
http://grindersfootwear.com/onlinestore/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=1_17
Some working boots have steel toes also- inorder to protect the wearer’s feet from heavy objects dropping on them – punctures ect.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steel_toe_boots
http://steel-toe-work.com/
Seems they have some ESPECIALLY made for electrical hazards-
http://www.sheplers.com/mens/steel_toe/work_boots_feature/work_boots/boots/
Amazingly, you can get tennis shoes with steel toe also, as seen in the above link-
hope this helps in some way.
Morgan did not have any plans to meet up with anyone outside the concert. Sarah called her because they did not know where she was.
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How in the world do you know if Morgan might have had plans to meet someone outside the arena or not? Didn’t one of her friends make some kind of cryptic comment like “That’s what she (Morgan) always does”, possibly speaking of Morgan separating herself from the group on other occasions?
You are right to call me out on the wording of my comment.
I should have said there is no evidence Morgan was meeting anyone outside the arena.
I have never heard a friend quoted wrt “what Morgan always does”, so I cannot speak to that.
B
PS- Pepper- Dr.Pepper,
Welcome to BOC your changing your “hat” to other pepper’s reminded me of that old commercial…
I’m a Pepper, youre a pepper, wouldn’t YOU like to be a pepper too?? Be a pepper! Drink Dr. Pepper…
Blink – IRT “Police Woman”- what was it about that show and Angie Dickinson that seemed to have all of our fathers become such loyal viewer’s? Good show.
Another favorite of my house was “The Rockford Files”- loved the theme music- I knew that meant bed time. Although, come to think of it my momma seemed to be a loyal viewer of that particular show Hmmm- Go figure LOL
Lol. My Mom would say.. Are you watching the blonde again? And I would tell her he watches her because she has the same color hair as me. He would reply the only pretty blondes were his girls and everybody knows that, lol.
Rockford Files, Quincy, Baretta, Fish, Starsky and Hutch, The Streets of San Francisco, Kojak, and of course, Hawaii Five O.
Gawd we need a book em Danno in this case.
B