Kyron Horman Case: Terri Horman Sexts Sent To Kaine Horman’s Phone…. WHAT?
HOLD THE PHONE
In what can only be considered the latest bombshell development in the case of missing Portland boy, 7 year old Kyron Horman, blinkoncrime.com has discovered that the recent sexually graphic text messages or sexts, allegedly exchanged between Terri Horman and mutual friend Michael Cook, may have been altered. Definitely, alter-able.
Blinkoncrime.com has confirmed that the phone number which Kaine hand-wrote on the originally sealed emergency restraining order dated June 28, 2010, matches the cell phone number he also alleges, through his attorney Laura Rackner, was used by Michael Cook to RECEIVE the “sext” messages in question.
What’s the issue?
Kaine Horman owns the phone and the account it is registered to, and unless the allegation is that Terri Horman, using her own phone as purported by Kaine, is herself posing as Michael Cook and sexting herself, which would seem like a physical impossibility given some of her *glamour shots*, we have a serious problem.
In Kaine’s own handwriting on the June 28th Restraining Order, he pens that is an alternative number for Terri Horman.
In the contempt order filed by Kaine Horman on July 12, Ms. Rackner states that she has personally seen the “work phone” records of Michael Cook, and goes on to say “a search” of his cell phone reflected that he took snapshots on June 28th of the earlier served restraining order, which had been sealed, and was the basis for the contempt motion in the first place. He took pictures of sealed documents on the phone belonging to the other person bound by the same order prohibiting Terri Horman from showing anyone. As there are no texts on the work number until July, it is the only logical conclusion.
I am going to go out on a limb here and assume that at some point it occurred to someone that using good faith information in your affidavit, which when not alerting the court that your client has complete ownership and access to the data on the phone account in question, can look like bad faith in a nano-second, thus the withdrawal.
However, not everyone is on the same the playbill because the 21 pages of texts, which were released in PDF format, and do not include any numbers for Terri Horman herself, were supplied in an electronically redacted format; which again indicates this was not an original file.
It was not until the unredacted pdf’s became available October 26th and we converted them to HTML files could we see that based on the file format, it is clear these records came from the account owners and were not subpoenaed from the carrier. Original files, also provided to the respondent, are the requirement of the court. We all know texts can be sent from our phone online accounts, and from our phones directly; I think I even have voice command to text widget thingie.
Anyone that had access to the account, which is registered to Kaine Horman, could clone, spoof, or manipulate those messages, period. That aside, let’s consider the possibility that Terri Horman HAD implicated herself even slightly in any messages on phones that may be utilized to illicit information by a woman who demonstrated her complete knowledge that she understood what expectation of privacy parameters she was under the impression she was operating under, and engaging in, with the “textee”.
Terri Horman was represented by counsel, it would not be difficult for Stephen Houze allege that Kaine Horman was in constant contact with MCSO, had already been provided case sensitive information by them, and as such, was acting as an agent in soliciting the text messages. You see where I am going with this?
The fruit of that poisonous tree is more like the fruit of the poisonous orchard.
The implications of this scenario are abysmal. While I completely understand the desperation of a Father wanting to locate his child, since I have yet to really see anywhere Cook attempts to engage Terrri Horman about Kyron’s whereabouts at any time; I do not get the point of the exercise.
Ms. Rackner is a first rate “Super Lawyer”, but she is not above the burden of her duty to insure that what is being provided to her as a “good faith basis” is just that.
Does this information make Terri Horman any less vulgarly inappropriate at best? Hell to the No.
While it is true on the surface because of this information one will be hard pressed to prove it was definitely Terri Horman who sent the electronic ipecac none of us will soon forget, her attorneys have not denied it was her, nor do I expect them to, at least not until they read this.
What it does, yet again, is potentially compromise the criminal case involving the disappearance of Desiree Young and Kaine Horman’s son Kyron.
This afternoon, blinkoncrime.com contributing editor and Legal Analyst, Lea Conner weighed in:
Kaine Horman claims that law enforcement provided the texts records to him, but that does not mean that the records came from the cell phone provider, nor does it mean that the conversations involve Michael Cook or Terri Horman.
In fact, there are indications that the text message transcripts filled by Mr. Horman are not as they appear. At least one of the phones purported to belong to “Michael Cook” is registered to Kaine Horman.
Just as important, none of these records indicate any information about the texts Mr. Horman alleges were sent by his wife. Mr. Horman does not list any cell phone number, not one message ID, not one cell record that indicates the identity of other party to the conversation let alone indicating Ms. Horman as the other party to the text message “conversations.” In the case of the phone with the “503″ prefix (503-XXX-XX76), Mr. Horman is the registered owner of the phone that was purportedly sending texts as “Michael Cook.”
More bizarre, Mr. Horman listed this number as belonging to Terri Horman in his application for a temporary restraining order. Was this a slip on the part of Mr. Horman? Mr. Horman claimed in a motion for remedial contempt that Ms. Horman showed a copy of the restraining order to Mr. Cook and allowed him to photograph the document.
Given that the phone Mr. Horman is the registered owner of the phone he purports was used by “Michael Cook,” it begs the question as to whether Ms. Horman ever allowed Mr. Cook access to the sealed restraining order. As a party to the action, Mr. Horman had the very same sealed documents. Mr. Horman, through Counsel Laura Rackner, claimed to have reviewed Mr. Cook’s “work cell phone records.”
It is not clear if the documents Ms. Rackner referenced as Mr. Cook’s “work” cell records are, in fact, for the phone registered to Mr. Horman. If the sealed documents referenced in Mr. Horman’s contempt motion were photographed with the phone registered to Mr Horman — the same phone that Mr. Horman claims was used by Mr. Cook — it might help explain why Mr. Horman withdrew his contempt motion.
Had he gone forward with the motion, he might have had to explain how it was the documents allegedly photographed by Mr. Cook were the same documents that he had in his possession, and that the phone used to photograph sealed court documents was registered to him, not Mr. Cook.
The records for the phone with a “971″ prefix (971-XXX-XX63) are unlisted. This phone also purported to send texts as “Michael Cook.” Due to the unavailability of any registration for this phone, it is impossible to tell to whom the phone belongs, or who was actually sending texts from this phone. The unredacted copy of the cell phone records filed on October 25, 2010, only identifies one caller on each set of cell phone records. This means that the records came from the phone, not the cell provider. Text records on pages 1 through 12 of Exhibit 1 are from (503) XXX-XX76 (“Cell Phone A”). These pages allegedly represent text messages sent between 10:17 pm on June 30, 2010 through 7:19 pm on July 1, 2010.
In separate court documents, “Michael Cook” is identified as the sender of text messages and the recipient of text messages is identified as “Terri Horman.” Cell Phone A is a Cingular/AT&T cell phone registered to Kaine Horman. It is also a phone number listed by Mr. Horman in his restraining order application as a phone number for Ms. Horman.
Pages 1 through 12 of Exhibit 1 does not list any phone number for the portion of the conversation attributed to Ms. Horman, only that the texts listed were received by (503) XXX-XX76. Text records on pages 13 through 17 of Exhibit 1 are from (971) XXX-XX63 (“Cell Phone B”).
These pages allegedly represent text messages sent between 6:49 pm on July 4, 2010 through 8:30 am on July 6, 2010. The bottom of page 17 has a partial text message sent on July 6, 2010, which purports to be sent after 8:30 am. Cell Phone B is an unlisted cell phone with AT&T (formerly Cingular).
In separate court documents, “Michael Cook” is identified as the sender of text messages and the recipient of text messages is identified as “Terri Horman.” Pages 13 through 17 of Exhibit 1 does not list any phone number for the portion of the text messages attributed to Ms. Horman, only that the texts listed were received by (971) XXX-XX63. All texts in Exhibit 2 are from Cell phone A, and allegedly represent text messages sent between 2:29 pm on July 3, 2010 through 9:40 am on July 4, 2010.
Exhibit 2 does not list any phone number for the portion of the text messages attributed to Ms. Horman, only that the texts listed were received by (503) XXX-XX76. All texts in Exhibit 3 are from Cell phone B, and allegedly represent text messages sent between 8:44 pm on July 6, 2010 through 8:41 am am on July 7, 2010. The top of page 1 of this exhibit has part of an undated message from 8:41 am., possibly on July 6, 2010, that states “I understand. I’m upset about kitty. I didn’t do [sic]”
Exhibit 3 does not list any phone number for the portion of the text messages attributed to Ms. Horman, only that the texts listed were received by (971) XXX-XX63. Surely investigators working on this case must know that the cell records filed by Mr. Horman as coming from Michael Cook’s phone were not from Mr. Cook’s phone, but from a phone registered in his own name.
Someone in law enforcement must have noticed that the number Mr. Horman claims belong to Michael Cook is also the number he claimed belonged to his wife in his TRO application. Mr. Horman signed his application for temporary restraining order on Monday June 28, 2010, prior to its filing at 4:39 pm that afternoon.
This was two days after the Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office conducted its failed sting operation at the Horman residence on Saturday June 26, 2010. MCSO was unable to confirm the murder-for-hire plot that had been alleged by the landscaper. As a result, MCSO was not able to arrest Ms. Horman.
As such, why did law enforcement then give the green light to Mr. Horman to obtain a restraining order on the basis that his wife had hired to hire a hit man? Or did Mr. Horman act unilaterally without the endorsement of law enforcement? Surely Mr. Horman must have known that law enforcement could not verify the landscaper’s story, yet he went ahead and filed a restraining order based on the very allegations that law enforcement could not verify. So why did he sign his name to allegations that he knew were not true?
The text messages don’t check out. The murder for hire allegations don’t check out. The only common thread here is a man whose son disappeared on June 4, 2010. As tragic and anguishing as Mr. Horman’s circumstances may be, that does not excuse misrepresenting information to the court.
Mr. Horman cannot claim that the phone registered in his name is Michael Cook’s work cell phone, nor can he claim that the phone allegedly used by Michael Cook was used by Ms. Horman. When Sheriff Dan Staton talked about knowing things that might surprise people, could he have been talking about cell phone records? Maybe Stephen Houze and Peter Bunch will force the sheriff to reveal its source for the records.
Although the answer would not bring Kyron home, it might at least alleviate some of the blame heaped on Ms. Horman, as unpopular as that may be.
Lea Conner, contributing editor, blinkoncrime.com
Madeline Tanner, copy and contributing editor, blinkoncrime.com
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45.sassifrass says:
January 27, 2011 at 6:56 pm
Ubaldo R Sanchez – Robles
Ubaldo F Sanchez – Fernandez
Just offering my best guess. I think these are maternal surnames BTW. Since the searches show Ubaldo R related to RS, my next guess is they are cousins on the paternal side of the family. Some people here think Ubaldo R Sanchez is an aka for Rodolfo Sanchez Estrada.
Also, read your posts on SM. Not my business, but please be careful. Really am worried for you. Remember to trust your gut instinct and your gut instinct seems to be saying stay away.
Blink I watch the NJ weather now
So I figured things were not so great
Take care
Everyone it is almost Feb 1
Are we getting excited yet
@Rose
My cough is almost gone
There is hope
Hang in there
Blink, if you feel this is too O/T or inappropriate don’t post.
I find it odd that Kyron’s swim instructor has a photo of himself with Kyron and Kiara on their web page. If it were me, I’d have a post with the photo the included the missing flyer and info. or I’d remove that particular photo altogether. It is a really cute pic of Ky, brought tears to my eyes again…sigh.
http://farberswimschool.com/about-us/
It pre-dated Kyron’s disappearance.
B
I send messages of “hang in there” to anyone stuck in heavy snow on the east coast. I’m from NJ, but have lived in upstate NYS for 30 years. The lake effect storms we get off Lake Ontario would make NYC close for a month. Funny how you get used to 4 feet of snow, five times a year, and hold back your unsolicited advice when other parts of the country get half that amount and shut down.
About the magic date, Feb. 1st. I tend to be an optimist. I think LE “knows” who they want to arrest (arrest first, among more than one person) but their hands are tied on only circumstantial evidence. Thus more funding will be requested and approved because LE will inform those who need to know: “It’s more than one person, it’s people who are not casual transients but involved in a routine of trafficking, and yes, TH knows them but that’s all we have on her for now.”
Any other hunches?
Rumor has it that we will not be hearing much publicly from Staton on Feb. 1st. Perhaps a mention about the truck posters and new Comcast
spots on missing children (link below). So far Kyron’s case does not appear on the agenda, but I’ll keep an eye on it.
Comcast to broadcast info on missing children:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2011-01-27-missingkids27_ST_N.htm
FWIW, here is a link to MC commission meeting agendas:
http://www.co.multnomah.or.us/cc/agenda.shtml
Latest from KGW News Portland
http://www.kgw.com/news/Missing-kids-program-to-feature-Kyron-case-114798244.html
@ iodizedseasalt re: posting order
Once your post comes out of moderation it is posted according to the time that you wrote it, not the time that it ended up posted. So think of it this way, if you wrote a post at 9am and it was in moderation, and another 20 posters wrote posts after you between 9:00am and 11:00am which were all in moderation, when BLINK sits down to moderate and post them all at say 11:30am she could push them all through, but your post will be back 21 spots because it was written at 9am and others were written at 9:15, 9:30 etc. It only really becomes an issue when Blink is running behind on posting items, that’s when I find that once my comment gets posted it can sometimes be quite far back.
I also find that sometimes she will post a quick short post before she posts a really long submission. For example I once wrote two posts back to back one was very simple and short and one was long and complicated. The short one came out of moderation quite quickly, and the longer one a little bit later. I assumed it required time for a more thorough read though. So for a while only one of the posts was up and the other one was still in moderation. But when the second one posted finally, it appeared chronologically with the first post side by side based on when they were both written.
I really don’t think it is personal at all. They are literally time stamped based on when you hit submit, and when they are posted they appear in order based on that time stamp, not the time stamp of when they were moderated and posted. Sometimes I notice that posts written after mine get posted on the site before mine and I always assume that Blink is at her computer working from back to front though the pile of posts she needs to moderate, and mine must have been one of the earlier (ie. further back) posts.
But they always end up posted, and if you look at the times they are always posted in exactly time order.
Thank you, Shannon.
I do approve posts that do not require my response first, but they all appear in succession when moderated.
Thanks for addressing.
B
@ Malty says:
January 27, 2011 at 11:53 pm
Everyone it is almost Feb 1
Are we getting excited yet
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I hear ya, Malty. I don’t know that ‘excited’ describes it for me, it’s more like fret, anticipation, nervousness, dread, despair… I just so wish that I could pull up the news one morning and find “kyron horman found” as the headline….
I think about Kyron all the time. He is a special little guy. Special indeed.
Aaaaand, thanks to you Malty and all the others who continue to hang in here in hope for Kyron to return home.
God be with you, Kyron. You are in the hearts of many, always. We will never forget you.
Blink, your response to Ode has had me on pins and needles. Was something found at DAD’s house on Monday linking him to Kyron?
http://www.kptv.com/news/26649197/detail.html
(Kyron) “Horman is featured in one of the videos that Comcast now offers customers across the U.S. The two-minute clip includes information about his disappearance, as well as a number to call if he is spotted.”
PS – I understand about the posting and storm related issues, etc., and wish you well, Blink. What I’ve never been able to figure out is if I am missing anything because of the count. My computer right now shows “comments (6353)”. If there are 50 posts per page that I can see – as my computer tells me there are, I would think that is 50 pages plus 3 posts on a new page (not thread, but page). However, that never quite adds up right. I have 5 posts on the new page right now.
This shouldn’t be related to what is pending and not posted. Anybody snowed in and on their 3rd cup of coffee have an idea about the counting? It’s not critical, of course, I just don’t want to ever miss anything – and I do go back 2 or 3 pages and scan to see if posts pop up that weren’t there before.
Hi Blink-I had a comment that didn’t post, would have been afternoon my time(PST) on Jan. 27. The two little comments I posted after that about the missing post did show up though. Could my longish post about David A Durham have gone to spam? Hate to bug you, I know you’re all snowed in and shizz, but just wondering.
By the way-I have to tell you again how honored I am to be a BOC’er. I have a couple of really sad personal situations going on right now and BOC helps me take my mind off them for a little while. Plus, I trust and value all the hard work that goes on here to get justice for victims that no longer can speak for themselves.
Thank you Blink for all your hard work!
DAD himself is not currently a fulltime landscaper; works for the print shop. He’s either a hobbyist landscaper, a parttime landscaper, or has previously been one.
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The following article says DAD is a former landscaper.
WALDPORT, Ore. (AP) — A team hunting a man accused of shooting an Oregon police officer believe he’s holed up in a vacation home in a secluded neighborhood less than a block from the Pacific Ocean.
It’s the latest theory by local and state police on the whereabouts of David Anthony Durham, a 43-year-old former landscaper who family members say slipped into a deluded state and at one point misinterpreted a movie about space aliens for a documentary.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jSzOpzX-D4fjeh4ENlASGkzK-gsw?docId=a88d7d692df348d2984d4cb5ac878c6b
18.Sheila says:
January 26, 2011 at 10:58 pm
Evie, I am in Roseburg…in the same neighborhood as the Moultan residence…at first, people were very defensive of Terri…people didn’t want to believe that a person they went to highschool with could be involved & were very quick to cut off those of us who believed that she had to have some link to the situation…those same people don’t have the same feelings that they did in the beginning…now they see that it appears that she is involved…. I have friends that are yoga instructors, front desk workers & childcare workers…we’ve had conversations about the case & none of them have ever mentioned that she has been there…. otherwise, people are waiting for the case to unfold…. There are a few that are very nervous that she is living so close to our neighborhood school….
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I, too, live in the Roseburg area. If TH was out, about and working out at the Y or any other gym people would be talking. Haven’t heard a word and have asked around wtih close friends who regularly frequent these places. Nada. Juast a FYI
Sheriff: Kidnapping Car Found In Canal Near Patterson LIVE971 watchers
A car sought in connection with the Jan. 18 kidnapping of 4-year-old Juliani Cardenas has been found, authorities say.
Underwater cameras used, also see Interesting pictures of submerged auto scenario:
http://livewire.kcra.com/Event/Amber_Alert_Boy_Kidnapped_In_Patterson
God be with Juliani and his family tonight. This beautiful little boy is free from fear.
Announcement forthcoming.
B
Post from my phone never made it through earlier today. Wondering about an article in the local news earlier this week, and if there has been anything found to link DAD to Kyron. The article indicated that “something big was happening late Monday night” on Sauvie Island. Haven’t seen anything in the news yet on what exactly was happening. That coupled with Blink’s comment to Ode at about the same time has given me an awful sinking feeling. Praying for Kyron and Desiree.
http://www.katu.com/news/local/114534899.html
Missing kids TV channel to feature Kyron
http://www.kgw.com/news/Missing-kids-program-to-feature-Kyron-case-114798244.html
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>>Kyron will be one of 20 profiles on the channel’s initial 12-week run<<
It's good this is all still happening to get his face out there, but I wish this had all been pushed more in the beginning. The truck company featuring the huge pictures and now this show-just seems like it would have helped out a lot more 8 months ago.
Does anyone else think that Kyron is out of the area and LE knows that? These new ways of getting Kyron's picture out there(after 8 months) makes it seem like there is some knowledge that Kyron is not in Oregon anymore. Or are these just things the family is pursuing on their own?
Here is a link to the MC Comm. Board Agenda for this next week, MCSO/Staton/Kyron’s case are not on it.
http://www.co.multnomah.or.us/cc/agenda.shtml
Blink, again no need to post if inappropriate.
I was looking at the swim school site and there are several photos of Kiara with the instructor, and one of Ky and Kiara with him. When I hold the cursor over the pics is says “Horman” on them. Just thinking about other possibilities for how SZ might have found or come in contact with the Hormans. It seems possible that a SO or ped might hang out at a swim/fitness center where there are lots of kids, especially when they are changing clothes and showering in locker rooms. I hate that I’m thinking about this, but I’ve had to consider it in my life wrt to my own family. At any rate, it is another example of the Horman kid’s pics being put on the internet for all to see, with a last name attached, no less. Knowing what I do now from my BOC education, I would not agree to have pics of my dear ones on a web site. All just IMOO, thinking out loud again.
http://farberswimschool.com/about-us/
@ Beejay
January 27, 2011 at 1:43 pm
Still pondering what this means, maybe you found a connection to copy-shooting fugitive;can you explain a bit more? Is MSM Scared Monkeys? NW Lucy Reeder is on S.I. and of course, LANDSCAPER stands out
DAD’s landlady is on NW Lucy Reeder. Her name is in recent MSM articles. I believe it’s her parents who own their own house on Sauvie Is, which in past few yrs they put a huge addition onto. Its landscaping is gorgeous. (I very quickly checked into the Fazios, so can’t swear its his landlady’s parents, but believe it is some relation that own big house).
DAD himself is not currently a fulltime landscaper; works for print shop. He’s either a hobbyist landscaper, a parttime landscaper, or has previously been one.
I’m trying to create some news here; lobbying with MCSO and local media for coverage on the Feb 1 Task Force report. Some other locals are doing same. More help would be appreciated!
oops, typo
meant “cop-shooting” on @beejay post above.
DAD suspect’s injured dog, Huckleberry remains at Lincoln County Animal Shelter while authorities decide…maybe potentially to members of Durham’s family.
http://www.registerguard.com/csp/cms/sites/web/news/cityregion/25828092-41/police-durham-search-waldport-bayshore.csp
Anyone find more on the fugitive’s family?
@ Idahogal January 29 at 9:05am:
Here is some more information on that topic. The article is no longer available, unfortunately.
Terri volunteered at Skyline School, where Kyron was in second grade, and she took him to swimming lessons with J**** and with K****
“They’re very nice people,” said Adam Farber, who runs a swimming school and taught Kyron to swim and worked on strokes with J****. Farber had no idea until he went missing that Kyron was Terri’s stepchild. “They all fit in really well.” source http://mobile.oregonlive.com/advorg/…ps=5&full=true
@12.Idahogal says:
January 29, 2011 at 8:30 am
Here is a link to the MC Comm. Board Agenda for this next week, MCSO/Staton/Kyron’s case are not on it.
http://www.co.multnomah.or.us/cc/agenda.shtml
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Just a reminder, read again the December 4th statement from Dan Staton regarding the ongoing investigation.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/12/multnomah_county_sheriff_dan_s_2.html
For the record, I’m not trying to insinuate that the swim instructor is a POI. Just snooping around other places where a potential SZ could have come in contact with Ky.
IDK what to think of the new TV spots I mentioned yesterday and the truck signage. Is it an indication of info. that LE has about Ky’s status or that this case has gone cold for them? I know KH & DY are not giving up and I totally understand that, I won’t give up either. It’s just making me nuts that there is NOTHING that points towards any resolution. Some people think he was taken and is alive somewhere and others think he was/is not. I remain broken hearted.
Would love to hear other’s thoughts.
Jden @ 12:02 Thanks for posting the comment from Adam Farber about how he never would have guessed that Ky was Terri’s stepchild. I made this point a few months ago regarding LS. Many speculated that he may have taken Kyron as revenge against Terri for dumping him. Others then asked why he would take her stepchild rather than her bio child if he really wanted to hurt her. My gut says he also had no idea that Ky was a stepchild. Kyron did, after all, call her “Mom”.
If she was so horney that she took on the landscaper as a sex toy, I doubt that she would be revealing intimate family knowlege to him. He was, after all, nothing more than the hired help. How many stepparents talk about their personal family relationships with workmen? Even if you did decide to have a fling with the milkman, I doubt you would discuss those topics…you wouldn’t want emotional intimacy with a sex toy.
If she did solicit him for the MFH, again, she wouldn’t be talking or whining about her stepson. She would be drawing him in with sex, much as she tried to do with Kaine’s friend Michael Cook. If you read those texts, you will see that she is not sentimental or emotional, even in the wake of Kyron’s disappearance. She thinks like a man and just goes directly for what she wants.
I would be willing to bet that, if LS is involved in Kyron’s disappearance, he never knew Kyron wasn’t her own biological child. As a Mexican myself, I can tell you that the first born boy would be the prize, not the baby girl. Terri would not have fit the Mexican model of how a woman should behave. She was not submissive and SHE was using HIM. Once he figured that out, his manhood/macho sense of himself would have been insulted and he would have been hugely pissed.
There is a show tonight on Discovery Channel “Kidnap and Rescue”. There are to be ten episodes and it deals with the booming business of victim recovery. It sounds very interesting. Makes me wonder if this man was ever contacted re Kyron’s case.
Prayers, faith, hope and love for little Kyron today and always. Dear Lord, please protect Kyron, keep him safe and warm. Please sweet pea, come home soon. Thinking os you always, love. xxooxx
MSM = Main Stream Media
Blink.
I know your dealing with the “snowpocalypse of 2011″ …
but one of my posts from 2 days ago (Jan 27th @ 7:46pm) still says “in moderation” – could be stuck in spam folder or something ??
This one:
Sammy says:
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
January 27, 2011 at 7:46 pm
Thanks.
15.merlin says:
January 28, 2011 at 3:33 pm
Blink, your response to Ode has had me on pins and needles. Was something found at DAD’s house on Monday linking him to Kyron?
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merlin, my post to Blink was about another case she has reported on some time ago. I just want you to know it was not about DAD or Kyron.
To those of us who have been wondering why Kyron’s photo is going to be on the Gordon Trucking vehicles around the country and whether this was a family decision or more to do with MCSO-here is part of the article on the Hinky Meter by Valhall. It answers that question:
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“Kyron Horman case: Kyron’s picture to be on big-rigs”
….A curious announcement was made this past week in connection with the Kyron Horman case. It appears MCSO are partnering with the Washington State Patrol’s Missing and Unidentified Persons Unit and Gordon Trucking, Inc., which is a nationwide trucking company, to include Kyron Horman’s picture and law enforcement contact information in the Homeward Bound program….
….But this week’s announcement of putting Kyron’s picture on long-haul trucks is a decision by two law enforcement agencies, one – MCSO – being the primary investigative body in Kyron’s case.
Link: http://www.thehinkymeter.com/2011/01/24/kyron-horman-case-kyrons-picture-to-be-on-big-rigs/
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It’s even more intriguing if MCSO is part of the push to get Kyron’s face out there in this way, especially 8 months after he disappeared.
Blink,
Is it a cooincidence that MCSO puts kyron’s photo on trucks and Ubaldo Sanchez was in truck driving business?
Did Ubaldo S. drive dump trucks?
See:
http://www.truckdrivingjobsin.com/bycity/Oregon/WOODBURN/UBALDO+SANCHEZ.aspx
http://www.koinlocal6.com/mostpopular/story/Image-of-Kyron-displayed-on-trucks-that-travel/Dpr3fi__Q0C_amLgCbUELg.cspx
Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office and Washington State Patrol have teamed up to get Kyron Horman’s face on trucks that run nationwide.
dot: 1304694
name: UBALDO SANCHEZ
address: 955 S PACIFIC HWY
WOODBURN, OR 97071
phone: (503) 982-7078 (503) 982-7078
email: LISADWRIGHT@COMCAST.NET
See:
http://www.truckdrivingjobsin.com/bycity/Oregon/WOODBURN/UBALDO+SANCHEZ.aspx
I have called my relatives in Waldport every 2 hours for days
and been really worried
DAD is still out there some place but maybe he has moved on
I don’t care what Terri is doing, the focus should have been on finding
Kyron early on in my opinion
I feel he is Alive or was for months
Terri can go to the Y or play with golf balls I just don’t care
Where is Kyron
If my posts don’t get in I figure maybe it has to do with my way
Expressing my self. Or just a mistake in the system not personal
There is no reason to think every useless word I write should be
Posted LOL
It has been a hard week for me forgive my mood
@27. Dee. Excellent analysis. son jeopardy perhaps also a reason James sent away.
I think the good sheriff will find the money to stay the course w/o a new budget request until he gets a hoped for break–maybe the March divorce hearing. I wouldn’t hold my breath for a formal task force report in Feb. That was an arbitrary goal he set.
Are rudy sanchez & assocs and SZ parallel investigation paths, or do they merge?
Thanks for explaining- I guess Ive been testy cause I hurt my back moving boxes for a class fundraiser and the pain is worse than giving birth lol. I just want kyron found already. Just listened to Nancy Grace about the little Lubbock Tx girl that was strangled by someone she trusted and knew. It makes me so sad and sick….
Clarification: I believe Sheriff Stanton need only go on the Council agenda if he is requesting more money. No Dept head really wants to ask for more money mid-year. If he conserves (no more big SI searches for example) and/or moves surplus $ around, he can delay providing a formal task force report (as opposed to informal phone updates for political relations) until he must have more money.
Any way I am thrilled about the trucks with Kyron
Pictured
And the programs
But I wish it had been sooner
Kyron is just a little boy he needed help
My opinion only
Google earth webcam of Ubaldo’s property shows what looks like a white truck on side of house. Trucks large and small close by.
Does the Ubaldo’s neighboring business metal recycling have a burn facility?
Did his neighbor Belle Passi Cemetery have any open dug graves in early June, especially any that were awaiting service and filled, covered on weekend of Saturday, June 7-8.
997 Belle Passi Road
Woodburn, OR 97071
Back in the acrchives again. Blink is telling us that:
1) Ky knew RS.
2) They made contact at the residence and at school.
3) RS Landscape Maintenance was contracted to do work ay Skyline.
Another poster sleuthed out the comment section of RS’s advertizing and it seems it say that:
1) One comment is attributed to TH in Aug. ’09.
2) KH, sleuthed to be Kris H. commented as well.
3) The comment dates coincide with dates on other websites.
Did TH and KH’s brother Kristian comment for RS back in Aug.’09. Is that closer to the time their relationship started? And how (if) did KH’s brother fit in?
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Of particular interest, is source confirmation that the landscaper Terri Horman hired last fall, who worked on the Horman property, had met Kyron at the residence as well as the Skyline School, where his firm had been contracted to do some work.
- From Blink On Crime Kyron Horman Missing and Endangered: Landscaper Rudy Sanchez Knew Kyron
29.ataraxic says:
July 16, 2010 at 10:06 am
In response to the following link about the reviews of RS Landscaping:
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Shawna Kay says:
July 15, 2010 at 9:28 pm
Two reviews found for this landscaping service at this location:
http://portland.citysearch.com/profile/47363571/camby_or/rs_landscape_maintenance.html#profileTab-reviews
Not sure if they are the TH and KH we know, but I thought it worth posting. Hopefully, you do too, Blink. If not, that’s okay.
1. Posted on 04/10/09 Lawn Care – Aerate a Lawn
by K.H. at Service Magic
Mr. Sanchez gave us a professional quote, showed up on time and performed the services as requested.
2. Posted on 08/17/09 Lawn Care – Maintain and Mow a Lawn
by T.H. at Service Magic
He and his team were on time and professional. I will use them as often as I can. In fact, I know that he had to come out a distance as well as in a time crunch for me to get things done and he was gracious in doing so.
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I found another review site with the same dated reviews, but listing different names as giving them:
http://www.servicemagic.com/rated.RSLandscape.16539937.html?link_id=13315#about
Review by Kris H. in Portland, OR
Project: Aerate a Lawn
Mr. Sanchez gave us a professional quote, showed up on time and performed the services as requested.
Review by a Neighbor in Portland, OR
Project: Mow Grass and Maintain Landscaping
He and his team were on time and professional. I will use them as often as I can. In fact, I know that he had to come out a distance as well as in a time crunch for me to get things done and he was gracious in doing so.
The dates are the same as the other websites as well, but you can see that KH is Kris H. Also, the one attributed to T.H is dated in August of 2009, and it has been stated several times that TH hired the landscaper in Nov. of ’09.
Friend and mentor of DDS commented for RS on Service Master. Westwind Farm Studio, LLC was where DDS was supposed to be on 06/04.
Jean Ann is DDS’s friend and has used RS. Does DDS know RS and is this how?
http://www.yogacowgirls.com/wp/?p=417
It should be noted that Mr. Sanchez has not been charged with any crime in this matter and local references to his business are highly complimentary. In fact, Jean Ann Van Krevelen a friend and “mentor” of Dede Spicher has used RS Landscape Maintenance on a few occasions, leaving positive reviews on the ServiceMaster listing which deleted his business from the site on 6/21/10. Heather Walters, owner of Rosemont Farm,which is not West Wind Farm, where Dede Spicher was working the morning of June 4th and out of reach by phone from approximately 90 minutes, has never met Terri Horman or heard of their family prior to Kyron’s disappearance. When I asked her if she knew Rudy Sanchez or if she ever hired his firm to work at WWF, she replied “not that I recall, no, but we did have a blackberry clean up a few years ago so it is possible.”
From Blink On Crime – Kyron Horman Missing: Case Review and Birthday Wishes to the Frog Prince
ROSEMONT FARM – Heather Walters
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?action=printpage;topic=8384.0
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June 4th: tweets about Stafford rd farm stand, was just me trying to encourage our locals to support a nice little roadside stand.
http://armenianladydentist.blogspot.com/2010/08/heather-walters-from-rosemont-farm.html?zx=2586b18363f3d575
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I’m going to clear up a few things and hopefully ease some speculation in regards to our association with the Kyron Horman case.
This poster seems certain that BP had an electric display at the SF.
50.snapoutofit says:
July 15, 2010 at 6:11 pm
I just remember that Pumalo’s son was interviewed originally and told reporters that Kyron said “I’m going to see the electric thing” which is where Pumalo was conducting that exhibit. Are they interviewing the boy (Tanner) again? Are they interviewing Brian Pumalo and searching Brian Pumalo’s parent’s property which is by the school also? Hmmmmmm.
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I thought this post was worthy of a re-read.
Mary says:
July 15, 2010 at 5:11 pm
*Important Read* There have been numerous reports and articles about Terri Horman and Michael Cook NOT knowing each other BEFORE KYRON’S DISAPPEARANCE…This has proven to be inaccurate by none other than “MICHAEL COOK”. Michael Cook made a statement about knowing Terri during a telephone interview just a few days ago. According to Michelle Sigona (sp?) she was interviewing Michael Cook for a piece she was doing for “Missing in America” with Jane Velez Mitchell as host. Michelle Sigona on Air stated to Jane Velez Mitchell that during the telephone interview Mr. Cook made the comment that he had been ”ESTRANGED” from BOTH KAINE AND TERRI for some time “BUT, because of this AWFUL EVENT” they had been brought back together. Seems to be some question now as to just how long these two have known each other…very interesting!!!
New search for Kyron today:
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2011/01/search_for_kyron_horman_resume.html
snipped:
“Weather conditions prevented the searching of these two locations a month or six weeks ago because of the snow up there, and dogs are not effective when it’s below 40 degrees,” said Multnomah County Sheriff’s Sgt. Keith Krafve, a supervisor of the Kyron Horman Task Force.
“There’re very specific reasons why we’re here,” said Multnomah County deputy sheriff Mark Herron, a search and rescue coordinator on the task force.
“We’ll be looking for all those things that are Kyron associated,” he said, adding that the searchers will also be looking for anything that might have been left by those involved with Kyron’s disappearance.
They are searching for Kyron again.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2011/01/search_for_kyron_horman_resume.html
jan says:
January 29, 2011 at 9:19 pm
(SNIPPED)
Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office and Washington State Patrol have teamed up to get Kyron Horman’s face on trucks that run nationwide.
dot: 1304694
name: UBALDO SANCHEZ
address: 955 S PACIFIC HWY
WOODBURN, OR 97071
phone: (503) 982-7078 (503) 982-7078
email: LISADWRIGHT@COMCAST.NET
See:
http://www.truckdrivingjobsin.com/bycity/Oregon/WOODBURN/UBALDO+SANCHEZ.aspx
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@jan- Good catch! IMO this is freaking weird. Here you have found the above link and it lists Ubaldo Sanchez under trucking jobs with a comcast email contact. Comcast is doing the ads for missing kids… Elsy & kids are Sanchez but no mention of them anywhere in MSM & they are not being put on trucks or in ads, so far as we know. My brain is spinning like a top…WTH?! IMOO this is a bizarre connection. **************************
30.lyla says:
January 29, 2011 at 1:14 pm
@12.Idahogal says:
January 29, 2011 at 8:30 am
(Snipped)
Just a reminder, read again the December 4th statement from Dan Staton regarding the ongoing investigation
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@lyla- I’ve read the Dec. 4th article many times, I’m not sure what your point is. I’m just providing a link for the commission agendas as they are posted, because many are waiting for & expecting some sort of news on Ky’s case this week from MCSO, and that may not happen.
I was just coming to post what Ode already posted. Fingers crossed that today is the day Kyron is returned to his parents.
The front page of the Oregonian is very ominous this morning. Only have time to share a small bit but the article should be easy to find. They are searching 2 areas based on “very specific reasons”. They also have 7 cadaver dogs. “Time has gone by yes, however, the things that we’ll be looking for, if they’re there, they’re still going to be there”. Very scary words if you ask me.
49.Ode says:
January 30, 2011 at 8:57 am
They are searching for Kyron again.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2011/01/search_for_kyron_horman_resume.html
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OMG – we have been in these areas driving and hiking A LOT in the past 2 months! There is a lookout on Dixie Mtn. off of Skyline Blvd. where you can see the Columbia River basin, Mt. Rainier, Mt. St. Helens, Mt. Hood, Mt. Adams, & downtown Portland on a clear day. It is a trail head for hikers and one of our favorite places to go. We always see elk, coyotes and other wild life up there as well. I thought these areas had already been searched heavily, now I wonder if some hunters or hikers found something.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2011/01/search_for_kyron_horman_resume.html
Snipped from today’s article:
Staton last week said he doesn’t intend to seek additional funds, and plans to go before the board of commissioners sometime in late February to give a status report on whether or not the task force will continue its full-time work.
– Maxine Bernstein
IMHO, these truck ads and comcast missing kids spots featuring Kyron lead me to believe that this case is going cold. As per lyla’s earlier post, here are the portions of the Dec. 4th article that stand out to me the most at this time:
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/12/multnomah_county_sheriff_dan_s_2.html
Investigators suspect more than one person was involved in Kyron’s disappearance and thatmore than one crime occurred: an alleged murder-for-hire scheme by the boy’s stepmother against her husband before the boy went missing, Kyron’s kidnapping, and who knows what else. They’re still unsure what happened to the child, and have had to consider all options, including his being abducted, becoming a victim of human trafficking or being killed.
The sheriff is pushing for something to shake loose by Feb. 1, the end of a 120-day deadline he set for the task force and when he reports to county commissioners about the status of an investigation that has cost nearly $1.4 million as of Nov. 29.
“The scope is narrowing. My belief is we should be relatively close to something by then; that’s why I set the time frame I did,” Staton said. “While we may not be at an arrest or an indictment phase, we’re going to have it narrowed down to a point where we may be calling out a suspect, identifying certain people or things.”
Yet prosecutors and task force members aren’t about to set any deadlines.
“This is a marathon, not a sprint,” Capt. Jason Gates said.
They point to one undeniable fact: They lack any physical evidence of Kyron, or physical evidence that links anyone to his disappearance.
“I think about this case constantly,” said Sgt. Keith Krafve, the task force supervisor who was the night shift sergeant when Kyron was reported missing. “Our biggest hurdle: We don’t have the kid, alive or dead.”
By September, the sheriff became worried about the direction of the investigation as costs mounted.
“I wanted to know what’s going on because I lost confidence in the investigation,” he said. “I felt the case was moving towards a cold case, and I was concerned. We had collected a ton of information, and nothing was being answered.”
They must look at all potential theories: They suspect Kyron’s stepmother’s involvement, but did she pass the boy off to someone? Could the boy have been taken along the I-5 corridor and out of the country? They also must identify and interview child predators and sex offenders living in the area.
“They’re a lot further along,” Staton said. “They started out with a long laundry list. … They’ve gradually been able to eliminate people who they can say are absolutely not involved. This investigation has narrowed it down significantly.”
And, with “not one shred of evidence to indicate the child has died,” Staton said, investigators must push forward as though Kyron is still alive.