Kyron Horman Case: Terri Horman Sexts Sent To Kaine Horman’s Phone…. WHAT?
HOLD THE PHONE
In what can only be considered the latest bombshell development in the case of missing Portland boy, 7 year old Kyron Horman, blinkoncrime.com has discovered that the recent sexually graphic text messages or sexts, allegedly exchanged between Terri Horman and mutual friend Michael Cook, may have been altered. Definitely, alter-able.
Blinkoncrime.com has confirmed that the phone number which Kaine hand-wrote on the originally sealed emergency restraining order dated June 28, 2010, matches the cell phone number he also alleges, through his attorney Laura Rackner, was used by Michael Cook to RECEIVE the “sext” messages in question.
What’s the issue?
Kaine Horman owns the phone and the account it is registered to, and unless the allegation is that Terri Horman, using her own phone as purported by Kaine, is herself posing as Michael Cook and sexting herself, which would seem like a physical impossibility given some of her *glamour shots*, we have a serious problem.
In Kaine’s own handwriting on the June 28th Restraining Order, he pens that is an alternative number for Terri Horman.
In the contempt order filed by Kaine Horman on July 12, Ms. Rackner states that she has personally seen the “work phone” records of Michael Cook, and goes on to say “a search” of his cell phone reflected that he took snapshots on June 28th of the earlier served restraining order, which had been sealed, and was the basis for the contempt motion in the first place. He took pictures of sealed documents on the phone belonging to the other person bound by the same order prohibiting Terri Horman from showing anyone. As there are no texts on the work number until July, it is the only logical conclusion.
I am going to go out on a limb here and assume that at some point it occurred to someone that using good faith information in your affidavit, which when not alerting the court that your client has complete ownership and access to the data on the phone account in question, can look like bad faith in a nano-second, thus the withdrawal.
However, not everyone is on the same the playbill because the 21 pages of texts, which were released in PDF format, and do not include any numbers for Terri Horman herself, were supplied in an electronically redacted format; which again indicates this was not an original file.
It was not until the unredacted pdf’s became available October 26th and we converted them to HTML files could we see that based on the file format, it is clear these records came from the account owners and were not subpoenaed from the carrier. Original files, also provided to the respondent, are the requirement of the court. We all know texts can be sent from our phone online accounts, and from our phones directly; I think I even have voice command to text widget thingie.
Anyone that had access to the account, which is registered to Kaine Horman, could clone, spoof, or manipulate those messages, period. That aside, let’s consider the possibility that Terri Horman HAD implicated herself even slightly in any messages on phones that may be utilized to illicit information by a woman who demonstrated her complete knowledge that she understood what expectation of privacy parameters she was under the impression she was operating under, and engaging in, with the “textee”.
Terri Horman was represented by counsel, it would not be difficult for Stephen Houze allege that Kaine Horman was in constant contact with MCSO, had already been provided case sensitive information by them, and as such, was acting as an agent in soliciting the text messages. You see where I am going with this?
The fruit of that poisonous tree is more like the fruit of the poisonous orchard.
The implications of this scenario are abysmal. While I completely understand the desperation of a Father wanting to locate his child, since I have yet to really see anywhere Cook attempts to engage Terrri Horman about Kyron’s whereabouts at any time; I do not get the point of the exercise.
Ms. Rackner is a first rate “Super Lawyer”, but she is not above the burden of her duty to insure that what is being provided to her as a “good faith basis” is just that.
Does this information make Terri Horman any less vulgarly inappropriate at best? Hell to the No.
While it is true on the surface because of this information one will be hard pressed to prove it was definitely Terri Horman who sent the electronic ipecac none of us will soon forget, her attorneys have not denied it was her, nor do I expect them to, at least not until they read this.
What it does, yet again, is potentially compromise the criminal case involving the disappearance of Desiree Young and Kaine Horman’s son Kyron.
This afternoon, blinkoncrime.com contributing editor and Legal Analyst, Lea Conner weighed in:
Kaine Horman claims that law enforcement provided the texts records to him, but that does not mean that the records came from the cell phone provider, nor does it mean that the conversations involve Michael Cook or Terri Horman.
In fact, there are indications that the text message transcripts filled by Mr. Horman are not as they appear. At least one of the phones purported to belong to “Michael Cook” is registered to Kaine Horman.
Just as important, none of these records indicate any information about the texts Mr. Horman alleges were sent by his wife. Mr. Horman does not list any cell phone number, not one message ID, not one cell record that indicates the identity of other party to the conversation let alone indicating Ms. Horman as the other party to the text message “conversations.” In the case of the phone with the “503″ prefix (503-XXX-XX76), Mr. Horman is the registered owner of the phone that was purportedly sending texts as “Michael Cook.”
More bizarre, Mr. Horman listed this number as belonging to Terri Horman in his application for a temporary restraining order. Was this a slip on the part of Mr. Horman? Mr. Horman claimed in a motion for remedial contempt that Ms. Horman showed a copy of the restraining order to Mr. Cook and allowed him to photograph the document.
Given that the phone Mr. Horman is the registered owner of the phone he purports was used by “Michael Cook,” it begs the question as to whether Ms. Horman ever allowed Mr. Cook access to the sealed restraining order. As a party to the action, Mr. Horman had the very same sealed documents. Mr. Horman, through Counsel Laura Rackner, claimed to have reviewed Mr. Cook’s “work cell phone records.”
It is not clear if the documents Ms. Rackner referenced as Mr. Cook’s “work” cell records are, in fact, for the phone registered to Mr. Horman. If the sealed documents referenced in Mr. Horman’s contempt motion were photographed with the phone registered to Mr Horman — the same phone that Mr. Horman claims was used by Mr. Cook — it might help explain why Mr. Horman withdrew his contempt motion.
Had he gone forward with the motion, he might have had to explain how it was the documents allegedly photographed by Mr. Cook were the same documents that he had in his possession, and that the phone used to photograph sealed court documents was registered to him, not Mr. Cook.
The records for the phone with a “971″ prefix (971-XXX-XX63) are unlisted. This phone also purported to send texts as “Michael Cook.” Due to the unavailability of any registration for this phone, it is impossible to tell to whom the phone belongs, or who was actually sending texts from this phone. The unredacted copy of the cell phone records filed on October 25, 2010, only identifies one caller on each set of cell phone records. This means that the records came from the phone, not the cell provider. Text records on pages 1 through 12 of Exhibit 1 are from (503) XXX-XX76 (“Cell Phone A”). These pages allegedly represent text messages sent between 10:17 pm on June 30, 2010 through 7:19 pm on July 1, 2010.
In separate court documents, “Michael Cook” is identified as the sender of text messages and the recipient of text messages is identified as “Terri Horman.” Cell Phone A is a Cingular/AT&T cell phone registered to Kaine Horman. It is also a phone number listed by Mr. Horman in his restraining order application as a phone number for Ms. Horman.
Pages 1 through 12 of Exhibit 1 does not list any phone number for the portion of the conversation attributed to Ms. Horman, only that the texts listed were received by (503) XXX-XX76. Text records on pages 13 through 17 of Exhibit 1 are from (971) XXX-XX63 (“Cell Phone B”).
These pages allegedly represent text messages sent between 6:49 pm on July 4, 2010 through 8:30 am on July 6, 2010. The bottom of page 17 has a partial text message sent on July 6, 2010, which purports to be sent after 8:30 am. Cell Phone B is an unlisted cell phone with AT&T (formerly Cingular).
In separate court documents, “Michael Cook” is identified as the sender of text messages and the recipient of text messages is identified as “Terri Horman.” Pages 13 through 17 of Exhibit 1 does not list any phone number for the portion of the text messages attributed to Ms. Horman, only that the texts listed were received by (971) XXX-XX63. All texts in Exhibit 2 are from Cell phone A, and allegedly represent text messages sent between 2:29 pm on July 3, 2010 through 9:40 am on July 4, 2010.
Exhibit 2 does not list any phone number for the portion of the text messages attributed to Ms. Horman, only that the texts listed were received by (503) XXX-XX76. All texts in Exhibit 3 are from Cell phone B, and allegedly represent text messages sent between 8:44 pm on July 6, 2010 through 8:41 am am on July 7, 2010. The top of page 1 of this exhibit has part of an undated message from 8:41 am., possibly on July 6, 2010, that states “I understand. I’m upset about kitty. I didn’t do [sic]”
Exhibit 3 does not list any phone number for the portion of the text messages attributed to Ms. Horman, only that the texts listed were received by (971) XXX-XX63. Surely investigators working on this case must know that the cell records filed by Mr. Horman as coming from Michael Cook’s phone were not from Mr. Cook’s phone, but from a phone registered in his own name.
Someone in law enforcement must have noticed that the number Mr. Horman claims belong to Michael Cook is also the number he claimed belonged to his wife in his TRO application. Mr. Horman signed his application for temporary restraining order on Monday June 28, 2010, prior to its filing at 4:39 pm that afternoon.
This was two days after the Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office conducted its failed sting operation at the Horman residence on Saturday June 26, 2010. MCSO was unable to confirm the murder-for-hire plot that had been alleged by the landscaper. As a result, MCSO was not able to arrest Ms. Horman.
As such, why did law enforcement then give the green light to Mr. Horman to obtain a restraining order on the basis that his wife had hired to hire a hit man? Or did Mr. Horman act unilaterally without the endorsement of law enforcement? Surely Mr. Horman must have known that law enforcement could not verify the landscaper’s story, yet he went ahead and filed a restraining order based on the very allegations that law enforcement could not verify. So why did he sign his name to allegations that he knew were not true?
The text messages don’t check out. The murder for hire allegations don’t check out. The only common thread here is a man whose son disappeared on June 4, 2010. As tragic and anguishing as Mr. Horman’s circumstances may be, that does not excuse misrepresenting information to the court.
Mr. Horman cannot claim that the phone registered in his name is Michael Cook’s work cell phone, nor can he claim that the phone allegedly used by Michael Cook was used by Ms. Horman. When Sheriff Dan Staton talked about knowing things that might surprise people, could he have been talking about cell phone records? Maybe Stephen Houze and Peter Bunch will force the sheriff to reveal its source for the records.
Although the answer would not bring Kyron home, it might at least alleviate some of the blame heaped on Ms. Horman, as unpopular as that may be.
Lea Conner, contributing editor, blinkoncrime.com
Madeline Tanner, copy and contributing editor, blinkoncrime.com
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Blink-Is there a physical description for this monster?
Not publicly, no.
B
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Blink, It seems like it would serve the public and help to garner information if the description was made public. Why has MSCO not released a description?
My best guess is that they do not yet know the actual identity of this guy, and a physical description will match many.
Fwiw, I feel as far as this is concerned, they are handling this correctly.
B
Blink – IIRC you thought Terri may have been notified of Kyron’s abduction “NOTE” possibly. If the person who took Kyron was a pedophile watching and waiting to abduct Kyron why would he notify Terri of the abduction?
Not unless she was in on it.
B
Blink, I understand your response to this post to mean that there WAS a sexual predator at Skyline that day, and MCSO has a description (not made public) of him. Am I reading you correctly?
TIA
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justice4kyron says:
December 14, 2010 at 11:04 am
Blink says:Opportunist Sexual Predator Pedophile- Highly organized offender, serial.
No kids of his own, possible divorce.
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Blink-Is there a physical description for this monster?
Not publicly, no.
B
That is my opinion, and that of some of our inside sources, yes.
B
Blink,
After reading your profile description, I am once again back to BP, living conveniently close to school and SI… and his satanic worship (knowledge of things we wish we didn’t)… these are things that I feel LE would be clearly disturbed about. When we look back, we will think (cool electric one, original search of SI, wife left town). The TP interview has never set well with me, the fact that grandmother (Wendy) allowed interviews although being instructed by LE not to… as well as the fact that I feel at that age Kyron’s “best friend” would have monitored Kyron’s movements more, asked the teacher where he was, why his backpack and jacket were there, would have been more inquisitive even on the bus.
TP’s grandmother, Wendy, when interviewed stated that TP said he saw TH leaving the school building and Kyron was not with her. She also said that she believes Kyron must have left with someone he knew and trusted.
From emails we have learned that TH hated Kyron, wanted him to disappear. A satanic cult that sacrifices children could have been her answer. How much $$ would it take to get someone in that family to talk? Maybe that’s why DY was attempting to get the reward $$ increased… everyone has a thresshold, a number.
If someone has the stomach for it, we should do more research about satanic rituals and what is done with children before/afterward. That might lead us to Kyron. I truly think this is key.
With all due respect, I skip over all the posts regarding RS & Assoc., his family and their lives. I just don’t think that directly involves Kyron. TH is an attention seeking, insecure woman who uses sex and prowess to get what she wants. She lines men up like bowling pins and calls her strikes. Game over.
Blink,
Apologies, I was thinking/posting out loud.
However; after reading your post in response to “Justice”
43.justice4kyron says:
December 14, 2010 at 12:01 am
I must say thank you for not posting my posts.
I think we are all right there with the known individuals,
but how it all plays and connects to the “suspect zero” is
a wait and see game.
My previous posts seem quite irrelevant now,
Can I have a re-do???? lol
Oh, and as for TH being involved. I really do not believe that LE would put out a flyer with any and especially one parent’s picture and vehicle on it without her being very suspect for her actions and admissions on June 4th. Big red flag.
Lest we not forget TH’s comment on FB so soon after Kyron disappeared “hitting the gym”. Child missing for me = shock, stunned, inability to move, eat, sleep or do anything except pray and speak with LE about every single thing I know.
TH has something to hide and therefore she is IN hiding.
Possibly dated someone with kids in the area.
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reason why LE honed in on TH and why KH believes she knows who subject zero is. This connection would push me off the fence!!
Blink,
If this guy has no electronic footprint, and the ability to
go underground for long periods of time, how can they be (MCSO)
be so comfortable saying this is an isolated incident?
If they don’t know who he is, where does the level of
certainty come from, until they can catch him and see if he has in
fact done this before?
Because LE only deals with what they can prove, or verifiable fact.
B
Any Skyline parents, etc:
Can/will anyone confirm that the photo from Santiago Bautista’s Facebook is recognized as someone who could’ve been at Skyline school on June 4? Go to SM website, scroll down to Sassifrass’ posts on 12-13 at 6:13pm and at 6:34 pm (man on left there is NOT Santiago Bautista; but Klaas has pointed out that he could be relative of RS, since their hairlines are so similar)?
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9000.580
Any help appreciated. TIA
Blink,
Are we going in a completely different direction here with the concept of an Opportunist Sexual Predator Pedophile? Or is it still possible that Terri provided the opportunity?
If she provided the opportunity, do you think she provided it knowingly (ie.made arrangements) or unwittingly through her actions, words and/or behaviors?
TIA
I do not understand how anyone thinks I am or have changed my position on this whatsoever.
I believe this crime is sexually motivated as I have said from day one.
I believe TH is either the most unlucky kook to walk the Earth, or either willfully, or through her activities and associates, she caused Kyron’s abduction.
HOWEVER
Again, as I have said numerous times, a stranger, or as I have referring to him, a suspect zero cannot be ruled out in this case.
Er Go.. The two possible scenarios are exactly the same for me. Kyron’s abduction and sadly presumed death may be completely independent of TH and the mfh plot. Is it likely? NO. Is it possible, given the known evidence and some non-public witness information? Yes.
Lastly- Yet another letter goes home to confirm or disprove the attendants at the school on 6/4-
Every piece of investigative work relative to who was there that day has gone back to students/parents/faculty/interested parties we may not be aware of (delivery people, etc, ).
He was seen, they are not sure of most anything past that, imo.
thinking caps on … our B has had this profile for a very long time … why is she now able to release it? and is “subject zero” reading here and other places? just asking
OK, TY Blink.
But why would the “profile” include high IT skills? And by “high IT skills” we’re looking for someone who is skilled NOT just as a computer user. But someone who can do hacking??? Or something other?
I am seriously confused by what is being written here lately. Is Blink now doing a 180? Is she referring to a total stranger (pedophile) now? I thought the line of thinking was that TH inadvertently let the vampires in or perhaps planned it from the get go? What is going on? Blink, are your sources doing a turn around?
Able to function undetected in the community, but familiar enough to fit in.
No electronic footprint, but has masterful IT skills
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could fit someone in Kaine’s circle of friends. didn’t KH say early on that suspect could be someone known to him and/or TH and Ky?
Highly organized offender, serial.
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someone who knows how to get in … get out … and get away … far away.
Rose says: December 13, 2010 at 4:37 am
“@45. Lea. While all principals communicate by email, all important communications ALWAYS go by mail/hard copy too. I think this is as much for “legal” reasons as anything else, so a public school system can verify every parent/guardian received notice. . . . My comment alluded to nothing nefarious, just the heavy hand of info mgmt. If arriving during the week, or in the morning, staff and/or parents could compare notes, chat, compare memories–at 3 pm on a Friday, for 2 days that’s far less likely. A Supt’s Office big on controlling the message would release it at 3 pm on a Friday”
beejay says: December 13, 2010 at 7:10 am
“@Lea: the email was apparently from MCSO to the school. The school sent a letter to parents (link below); another media outlet says it was a “flyer”. Makes sense it would be in writing; not all parents have or give out a personal email. ‘The school sent a letter home, along with the names of those identified….’”
http://www.katu.com/news/local/111702724.html
Does SkylineParent, or any other parent of a Skyline student, know whether the Ben Keefer/FBI note was sent out by email or hard copy, or if it was sent out both in email and hard copy?
I’m also curious about the names on the email. Does SkylineParent or any of the other parents know why middle names were used for some people? I’m not talking about the women who use and are known by their full names, i.e. Firstname Middlename Lastname (say, “Peggy Sue Smith”), or Firstname Maidenname Lastname.
Law enforcement has long had a tradition of using a suspect’s full name in order to avoid any confusion with someone by the same or similar name.
The men on the Skyline/FBI/MCSO list who had their full names listed did not have “common” names like “John Smith,” and it would seem unnecessary to add in the middle name if it is not uses. Given that law enforcement clearly listed a couple of people by what are nicknames (i.e “Jen,” “Bill,” etc.) but did not denote the names as such, the formality of listing a full name for only a few of the people was very weird.
Women’s maiden names — other than women who use their maiden name in their name — were listed within parentheses, i.e. “Betty Jones (Smith).” But there was one woman whose name that was listed as hyphenated, then a forward slash to another last name (i.e. “Peggy Smith-Jones / Wilson”). What was the deal with that person’s three different last names? If it was a maiden name, then why wasn’t it put in parenthesis like the other names?
I’m wondering whether the people who are listed by their full names, or by multiple names (not simply a maiden name), are known by those names. If not, it might suggest a particular focus by law enforcement.
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puzzled says: December 12, 2010 at 10:39 pm
“is this LE’s way into peoples emails w/o a warrant and backtracking to see who has been in communication with who?”
Law enforcement would need a search warrant, unless there is some kind of exception to the search warrant requirement.
Anyone here in law enforcement who would like to discuss the national security exception?
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lyla says: December 12, 2010 at 11:09 pm
“I would take a serious look at the GK. Was he acquainted with TH and/or Kyron? and What evidence does LE have that Kyron did not leave with TH or DDS? Is there a ‘credible’ witness who saw a male adult near the Horman truck (gz male)? Has this person been identified? If not, why not?”
What is “gz”?
I am curious if the “adult male” near “Kaine’s truck” was someone who claimed to be present in an employment-related capacity for PPS or a non-PPS employer.
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lyla says: December 12, 2010 at 11:09 pm
“If DDS is suspect why didn’t she hire a ‘high powered attorney’?”
Maybe Ms. Spicher did not have the same access to funds, or a generous benefactor.
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Does anyone here know what one would see from, say, the the base of the steeple at the Brooks Hill Church? Photos of the church prior to June 4 show a camera mounted on the roofline of the steeple. I’m curious if it’s a dummy camera. If not, was it operational on June 4?
@Kozyotb says:
December 14, 2010 at 11:13 am
Blink – IIRC you thought Terri may have been notified of Kyron’s abduction “NOTE” possibly. If the person who took Kyron was a pedophile watching and waiting to abduct Kyron why would he notify Terri of the abduction?
Not unless she was in on it.
B
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I suspect Terri IS involved in Ky’s disappearance and I am strongly feeling she is/was actively involved with an organized crime group.
Crime scene investigators began forming theories from the beginning and as these theories develop, the scope of an investigation must expand to include many possibilities.
Ask yourself this; why would TH involve any of her friends/lovers if it could possibly be traced back to her or her acquaintances?
Investigators must entertain the notion that TH hired a “hit man”.
@jden
I have always wonder about BP and AV and the satanic abuse connection. Satanic Abuse is real. Years ago, I worked at a domestic/sexual assault agency and we had training on different forms of abuse including satanic abuse also known as ritual abuse.Ever wonder why many pet shops don’t sell or shelters give out black cats near certain holidays?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanic_ritual_abuse
http://www.rickross.com/reference/satanism/satanism1.html
Satanic Ritual Abuse – A 1992 FBI Report
4.Jden says:
December 14, 2010 at 11:23 am
Jden, But BP had a kid of his own.
BP HAS a kid of his own.
The question becomes, did TH know this SO and plan this or not?
If not, how could LE make claims that (paraphrasing) the students are safe, one time occurance? Do we still think RS and Associates are involved?
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Opportunist Sexual Predator Pedophile- Highly organized offender, serial.
No kids of his own, possible divorce.
Possibly dated someone with kids in the area.
Skills or resources to go underground quickly and for sustained periods of time.
Able to function undetected in the community, but familiar enough to fit in.
No electronic footprint, but has masterful IT skills
Has had access to Skyline prior to 6/4/10 possibly through work, which I would guess is construction/electric/plumbing related.
Before you ask, yes, I believe Kyron ran into him in the “Cool Electric” Science Fair displays.
B
Lea Conner says:
December 14, 2010 at 12:44 pm
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Women’s maiden names — other than women who use their maiden name in their name — were listed within parentheses, i.e. “Betty Jones (Smith).” But there was one woman whose name that was listed as hyphenated, then a forward slash to another last name (i.e. “Peggy Smith-Jones / Wilson”). What was the deal with that person’s three different last names? If it was a maiden name, then why wasn’t it put in parenthesis like the other names?
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EXACTLY – I did a search on that woman’s name and reported what I found. She had an a/k/a that is possibly related to someone who is possibly related to this case.
does anyone know if Skyline has a tech person to fix and service their computers?
TY again Evie. I’m thinking an employee that did pickups and deliveries, or a maintenance person type. Someone that would go to more than one school in a day as part of their routine.
33.evie says:
December 13, 2010 at 9:04 pm
e-rose.. no time to match the names on the list right now, but the (very small) staff at Sauvie elementary is here: http://www.scappoose.k12.or.us/node/226
Lea Conner says:
December 14, 2010 at 12:44 pm
What is “gz”?
Ground Zero
Regarding the type of employee that might be involved…
A bus driver would drop kids off at 8:30ish and return for the kindergartners around noonish. Just trying to figure out the time frame. MOO.
@Lea Conner
lyla says: December 12, 2010 at 11:09 pm
“I would take a serious look at the GK. Was he acquainted with TH and/or Kyron? and What evidence does LE have that Kyron did not leave with TH or DDS? Is there a ‘credible’ witness who saw a male adult near the Horman truck (gz male)? Has this person been identified? If not, why not?”
What is “gz”?
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“gz” = ground zero i.e. Blink’s ground zero suspect.
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Opportunist Sexual Predator Pedophile- Highly organized offender, serial.
No kids of his own, possible divorce.
Possibly dated someone with kids in the area.
Skills or resources to go underground quickly and for sustained periods of time.
Able to function undetected in the community, but familiar enough to fit in.
No electronic footprint, but has masterful IT skills
Has had access to Skyline prior to 6/4/10 possibly through work, which I would guess is construction/electric/plumbing related.
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Possibly dated someone with kids in the area.
Could this guy have dated Ms Porter (the teacher) I believe that she is single. Or maybe one of the other teachers or staff at the school.
This sites linked below show an elementary school electric project that is simple, requires few materials, and could actually be called “a cool electric GUN”.
Since, as far as I know, no-one has told us what the particular electric exhibit might have been, it’s hard not to keep guessing. Who knows if a part of this exhibit was involved in Kyron’s disappearance? This experiment below includes magnets, steel balls and a box cutter (may or may not have been brought in with the project). Something from an exhibit may have harmed Kyron and may have disappeared along with Kyron, or rolled off the table into a corner. Only the student exhibitor would know that something was taken. I’m sure LE would have asked this question.
http://www.all-science-fair-projects.com/project372_29.html
Project title How to build a magnetic linear accelerator
Difficulty Level Elementary school
Description
This very simple toy uses a magnetic chain reaction to launch a steel marble at a target at high speed. The toy is very simple to build, going together in minutes, and is very simple to understand and explain, and yet fascinating to watch and to use.
This other website gives a copyrighted description of the experiment and photos, so I’m just showing the first few paragraphs:
http://scitoys.com/scitoys/scitoys/magnets/gauss
THE GAUSS RIFLE:
A Magnetic Linear Accelerator
This very simple toy uses a magnetic chain reaction to launch a steel marble at a target at high speed. The toy is very simple to build, going together in minutes, and is very simple to understand and explain, and yet fascinating to watch and to use.
The photo above shows six frames of video showing the gauss rifle in action. Each frame shows 1/30th of a second. In the first frame, a steel ball starts rolling towards a magnet taped to a wooden ruler. In the second frame, a second ball can be seen speeding between the rightmost two magnets. By the third frame, the accelerator has sped up so much that the ball that is seen leaving the left side of the device is just a blur as it smashes into the target. One ball, starting at rest, has caused another ball to leave the device at a very high speed.
The materials are simple. We need a wooden ruler that has a groove in the top in which a steel ball can roll easily. Any piece of wood or aluminum or brass with a groove will work. We chose the ruler because they are easy to find around the house or at school or at a local stationery store… (more with good photos at second site)
A side trip/FYI: finally found confirmation of the before/after school daycare onsite at Skyline on June 4:j
“K****, 8, is a neighbor of the Horman family and attends after-school care at Skyline School. When her mother picked her up from the school the evening Kyron Horman went missing, she was greeting by 8 police cars. Watch a video of her mother, A*****, talking about the experience.”
link to article; scroll down near bottom; click on link below photo for video interview of her mom:
http://projects.oregonlive.com/photos/2010/06/11/after-a-week-of-searching-no-sign-of-skyline-student-kyron-horman/
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Also, found that Linnton Community Ctr (5 mis away from schl) does run buses to both Skyline and Lincoln Hi to pick up kids for Linnton CC’s after school daycare. Not clear to me IF they also do morning dropoffs.
<<Possibly dated someone with kids in the area.
Or another TH affair? Then Kyron might trust him. Most of us have believed that Kyron must have known/trusted the person in order to go with them, so maybe. Or maybe TH told Kyron he could go with the person. No way I believe that she's uninvolved. She bought that monster plenty of time to get away and do whatever with Kyron. I just cannot imagine. It makes me feel physically sick and angry in a way I'm not usually angry to think that she could do this, but I cannot explain all her other behaviors away. Sexual predators are the worst, but to help one?! With a child you know?! I'm sorry, that's even more evil! Jmoo. But I do believe the extreme hatred email interpretations from KH & DY and the other things we've learned about TH say to "yes, she could". JMoo.
Re: the stun gun, I never thought it would be in the school, just something used to lure Kyron outside… "come see my cool electric thing", along those lines. I think that once Kyron was outside and near the truck whatever was used to subdue him was fast, silent, easy and incapacitated Kyron immediately.
Blink, I am curious, too. I’m guessing you’ve known this info re the GZ male for awhile and can just now share it with us, so I have to hope and pray that this means the info is closer to breaking to general public in a big way. I know you have many inside sources, and you’ve given utmost respect to those confidences and have been the uber-professional that you are, so I think that your ability to share a bit now must mean something is about to happen in Kyron’s case. Please say that’s true. And thank you so much again for this blog. As I’ve said, I don’t have children, but if I did, I’d want a child like Kyron. There was something about him that spoke to me and drew me in from the very first morning that I saw his picture (June 5), and my heart truly breaks for him and all his family and friends who love him.
We will never find because those are the footprints we have been tracking.
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No electronic footprint, but has masterful IT skills
B
My dear friends-
YOU CANNOT tie a person’s name to a murder case, that has been arrested, unless you can verify it is indeed the same person.
If a person is a RSO, believe it or not, they have rights about how that information is published.
Confirm the person and I will post all of them I am sitting on.
B
Random info~ PPS/Skyline BUS schedule (you can change school name in pull down window @ top)
http://www.pps.k12.or.us/depts-c/bus/index.php
PPS General Transportation Stop & Route Data/ side bar has numerous links to info
http://www.pps.k12.or.us/departments/student-transportation/1405.htm
In 2009 KH’s brother, from what I recall, was arraigned and then sentenced in 2010 for sexual crimes involving a 14-15 year old girl. Scumbag material.
Sex offenders often, if not always, know other sex offenders.
Student Transportation Driver Requirements
School buses are one of the safest modes of transportation in this country. Part of that reason is the stringent certification and ongoing training requirements for school bus drivers.
To initially become a school bus driver in Oregon you must:
Successfully complete application and interview process.
Acquire Commercial Driver Instruction Permit (CDL).
Must pass DMV CDL C written test.
Must pass DMV CDL C passenger endorsement written test.
Must pass DMV CDL C school bus passenger endorsement test.
Pass driving and Oregon criminal record checks.
Complete and pass the FBI fingerprinting process.
Successfully complete a DOT physical.
Pass drug and alcohol screening test.
Successfully complete agility test.
Complete a minimum of fifteen hours of Behind The Wheel (BTW) training.
Pass DMV BTW test.
Receive CDL license and Oregon Department of Education (ODE) School Bus Driver’s permit.
YOU MAY NOW START TRANSPORTING STUDENTS
Complete the following classroom training within 120 days of receiving ODE permit:
First Aid (6 hours)
Core Training (8 hours)
Smith System Defensive Driving (6 hours)
Receive ODE School Bus Driver’s Certificate
To maintain your ability to be a school bus driver in Portland Public Schools you must:
Renew your ODE School Bus Driver’s Certificate every two years if under 55 years of age and ever year
at 55 years of age and older (ODE requirement)
Maintain minimum ODE training hours requirement at time of certificate renewal
Three year driver – 24 hours of ODE approved classroom training
Four year or more driver – 32 hours of ODE approved classroom training
Successfully complete annual driver’s performance appraisal
Receive regular monitoring of driving record through the DMV D.A.V.E. flagging system
http://www.pps.k12.or.us/departments/student-transportation/1409.htm
Just out of curiosity, has anyone seen a photo with face of janitor Bill Tandy? Or, if you know him, can you confirm that the photo I’m linking is the janitor? TIA
link:
http://www.classmates.com/directory/public/memberprofile/list.htm?regId=7621833277
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The BT photo of him walking toward the stairs at Skyline shows a thin man with bent posture, which we’ve all taken as meaning an elderly man. Yet when we saw a thin man raising the flag outside Skyline schl, said to be BT, (June 8 photo, distant shot, on OL, IIRC), we said: that can’t be him.
In people databases I find our William as someone in 35-40 age range. If my photo, linked above, is the janitor, a 1980 grad of that technical high schl, that would be about the right age as databases show. (He might just have bent posture; not be elderly)
Any alternative full face photos of the janitor??
STUDENT TRANSPORTATION SERVICE GUIDELINES
2. Selecting type of transportation to transport Portland students. This may involve regular school bus, Special Education bus, cabs, Tri-Met, or other available options that meet student needs and comply with District and state guidelines
3. Selecting bus stops and student assignments, based upon safety, respect for private property, prescribed walking distance to/from school and bus stops and economy of operation. Stops are located not less than 3/10 of a mile apart in designated safe areas central to the needs of all students. Exception: Student congestion and hazards may influence locating stops less than 3/10 of a mile.
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3. BusStops
a. MostSpecialEdbusserviceisprovidedfromstudentresidence/daycarelocation to school of attendance; however, students who are capable will be expected to walk to a stop where practical.
[Q: Was Kyron getting 'special' pick up/ drop off stop @ home because of eye sight?]
7. Drop-OffRequirements/ParentResponsibility
a. MetStudents-InitiallyallSpecialEducationstudentsarerequiredtobemetat the door of the vehicle by a responsible person. It is the parent’s responsibility to determine who that responsible person is. Drivers shall not leave a student at the drop off location without a responsible person meeting the student at the door of the vehicle unless an approved “Request For Change Of Special Ed Drop Off Procedures” form (TD-75) is signed by parent/guardian, principal/program, and is on file in the Transportation Office. The TD-75 will allow for a visual unmet status where the driver must make visual contact with a responsible person at the address of the drop-off location, or an unmet status where the driver will drop the student at the drop address without confirming if anyone is home. The TD-75 form is available in PDF format at the Forms section of the PPS Inside website.
http://www.pps.k12.or.us/files/student-transportation/Transportation_Guidelines.pdf
3. Although open to anything, a profile like that has been my best working guess. I do not rule out pps employees near year’s end. I think of someone who’s moved every 3-4 years as well. As for target, I think Kyron was scouted but likely for no other reason than he’d scoot out of class to the bathroom. The 6 hrs was a boon, and I think must’ve been planned without counting on that.
Question to ANY Skyline School parent ~
Do you know IF the school bus was on “LATE OPENING” schedule ?
ie. classes STARTED @ 10am/ late opening ?
Because as I read in the FAQ’s, bus pick up would of been ‘delayed’ due to late opening.
Thank you in advance.
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PPS Home > Departments > Student Transportation > Frequently Asked Questions
Frequently Asked Questions
LATE OPENING
Q: If school opens two hours later than normal, what time does the bus come?
A: In most cases, the bus will arrive two hours later than the regularly scheduled time.
WHEN THE BUSSES ARRIVE AT SCHOOL
Q: Does a staff member need to meet the buses at the school in the morning?
A: Yes they do. ALL School busses MUST be met in the morning. Also there is the benefit of open communication between the bus driver and the school. The bus driver can let the staff member know of any problems or concerns that happened on the bus on the way to school.
Q: What time does a staff member need to be in the loading Zone?
A: The buses arrive ten minutes before the tardy bell, they need
to be met at this time.
http://www.pps.k12.or.us/departments/student-transportation/1406.htm
No no, your fine, not you.
Nobody is doing anything wrong, I just need to operate under certain editorial guidelines, that sometimes people are not aware of, that’s all.
B
Listing for PPS~
Departments, Services, Projects, and Other Resources
http://www.pps.k12.or.us/departments/index.htm
Even though this link is for 2010-2011 school year, IIRC it is also the same for 2009-2010 school year.
So, IF Skyline was on a 2-hour/ late opening—would the buses be arriving @ the END of SF & when parents etc were leaving ? JMHO … questionong
Bell and bus schedule for 2010-11
Skyline
Morning Bus Arrives: 8:35
School Begins: 8:45
Afternoon School ends: 3:00
Afternoon Bus Departs 3:05
http://www.pps.k12.or.us/news/4398.htm
@Lea: Are you willing to tell us whose name(s) related to this case were removed from the database you mentioned way back (when you were posting as newsatfive)? Any chance a perp/hacker–rather than LE–removed those? Your thoughts?
Also, Lea, any idea why that camera would’ve been mounted on the church and, I assume, pointed toward the school PRIOR to June 4? You know, the church would’ve been an ideal place for a perp to use to gather info about the school comings and goings. (Also, one would hope FBI did a sweep of the church prior to holding press conferences there, with family and, presumably, LE being in various areas of the church around that time. Odd not to use a LE-operated building for security reasons.)
I’ve had doubts since the beginning that TH orchestrated this. For her to have pulled it off, it would’ve required the involvement of so many others that I find it hard to believe one of them wouldn’t have talked or bragged by now. Or that some phone/internet evidence wouldn’t have surfaced.
If the criminal profile that was worked up says “opportunist” then Blink, would that mean it was not pre-meditated?
A little side note here, for those of you saying Blink is doing a 180…I don’t believe she possesses any psychic abilities or has claimed as much. It’s investigative…albeit Blink clearly has connections. It makes me grrrrr when people think there’s supposed to be a magic crystal ball Blink has, if she had one don’t you think she’d have solved all the mysteries of the world by now? It’s intelligent discussion about crimes, open minds, opinions, theorizing etc. with the added advantage of someone who’s privy to certain information.
I don’t comment here very often but I do read on a regular basis and it’s undoubtedly THE best crime blog I’ve come across:)
My thanks Tori and welcome.
Excellent question. No, just because I classify suspect zero as an opportunist does not mean this was not premeditated, in fact, I absolutely think it was.
I envision “zero” walking the halls when he thinks nobody is paying attention and counting the steps from classroom to door, to steps to bathroom and stopping and restarting his stop watch. He has watched each teacher, each classroom, and knows how to get in and out of every entrance and exit. The Science Fair, open to all, provided him the opportunity.
Wrt to changing directions, etc, in our work, and as I have been taught, and try to teach, the number one thing you MUST be willing to do as an investigative analyst is to be willing to scrap your whole case and start over, without angst.
The second you have something which conflicts or challenges or changes the scope of your investigation you must adapt without ownership of your previous work or you will be investigation to PROVE you were right. That is not investigation that is research. Big difference.
I cannot tell you how many times we have had to do that after hundreds of hours of work, that is the nature of the beast.
The second I become closed off to reasonable non-excludable theory, I am dead in the water.
B
Found 2009-2010 School Bell/ Bus Schedule
SKYLINE
AM BUS ARRIVAL: 8:35
AM START TIME: 8:45
PM BUS ARRIVAL: 2:55
PM END TIME: 3:00
PM BUS DEPARTURE: 3:05
http://www.pps.k12.or.us/schools-c/bell_bus-schedules_09-10.pdf
@37. Beejay. Yes, looks the same. Keep in mind need to identify a “highly organized” predator. a janitor at his own worksite would be the height of foolishness. And, his recent predecessor would have more motivation (overworked by pta).
I do not understand how anyone thinks I am or have changed my position on this whatsoever.
I believe this crime is sexually motivated as I have said from day one.
I believe TH is either the most unlucky kook to walk the Earth, or either willfully, or through her activities and associates, she caused Kyron’s abduction.
HOWEVER
Again, as I have said numerous times, a stranger, or as I have referring to him, a suspect zero cannot be ruled out in this case.
Er Go.. The two possible scenarios are exactly the same for me. Kyron’s abduction and sadly presumed death may be completely independent of TH and the mfh plot. Is it likely? NO. Is it possible, given the known evidence and some non-public witness information? Yes.
Lastly- Yet another letter goes home to confirm or disprove the attendants at the school on 6/4-
Every piece of investigative work relative to who was there that day has gone back to students/parents/faculty/interested parties we may not be aware of (delivery people, etc, ).
He was seen, they are not sure of most anything past that, imo.
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It seems you’ve changed your tone though. You were pretty confident in most of your statements indicating “she let the vampire in”, “the landscaper is the key” “make no mistake etc etc” Now your statments are more like questions. You’ve about covered every posibility now so that however it turns out, you’ll be able to say you were on the right track. Not trying to be critical, just an observation that your tone has indeed changed.
Respectfully, I absolutely disagree. In your own words you have just “roughly” quoted me, and that has not changed. If I were to learn something that changes my opinion or analysis and it was not case sensitive, I would be the first person to say,, hey, my thinking is flawed, here’s why..
Please, being right is of no importance to me when a 7 year old child is missing and presumed dead.
I pose questions because this is also a teaching blog, and want people to expand their critical thinking skills.
I am confident in anything I write, or I would say so. In fact, I frequently do.
B
This case is not going to end with a bow wrapped around it,
@32. E-Rose & Blink. Did he never have an electronic footprint, or did he erase it, over time, due to those masterful IT skills?