Holly Bobo Missing And Endangered: Are Suspects Naming Themselves- Odd Dodd?
Darden, TN–
On the eve of the 4 week anniversary of missing Darden, TN nursing student, Holly Bobo, new investigative details are being learned about the case. Two unofficial persons of interest have taken their case “public” in a way.
While blinkoncrime.com was aware of this information, a decision was made to withhold it in the interests of the cases “active” status previously.
That was, until today, when one of the known person’s of interests in Holly’s disappearance, outed himself publicly.
Jonathan Dodd, son of Bradley Grafton Dodd, and Dena Logan Dodd, chose the Parsons topix forum to “defend” himself against what he termed “death threats”.
Blink, Editor In Chief of www.blinkoncrime.com, was able to confirm the poster on the topix forum was indeed, Jon Dodd.
Speaking exclusively to www.blinkoncrime on the condition of anonymity, an extended family member of the Dodd family, sheds more light on Master Dodd’s claims.
“.. Yes, that is definitely him. I have no idea how he can say he does not know the Bobo family, he went to Scotts Hill with Holly for a short time. Karen Bobo, Holly’s Mom, worked for Grafton Dodd, his grandfather, when he was the principle of the Parson’s junior High when it was still there, Brad and Grafton are on the school board, there is no way that is true what is said.
Jon Dodd High School List From His myspace
When he is saying something was stolen from the property, he is talking about the ATV you wrote about before, when I saw that, I knew you were aware of him. Sandy called the sheriffs department before she knew that Holly was missing to report that their ATV was stolen. Sandy is also the cheer leading coach at Riverside High, since forever, and she got into some minor trouble a few years back because she got caught rigging the tryouts. Nothing major, but everyone knew about it. Dena, his Mom, was a teacher at Riverside shortly after he got transferred, which is weird again.
Everyone in this family has been covering for Jon since he was a kid. I could not believe when he stabbed Brad with a scissors when he was about 8 1/2, there was a big cover up. Last year Dena moved to Gwinnett County because the grands let him get away with anything. He has a baby with Shelby Sellers and nobody really even knew about that until after.
Jon went to the great-grandparents for a while in Arab, Ala in 2006 after the girl was killed in the car accident that got his ass beat up when he said she deserved it, and again, nobody said a word. Brad and Dena started up that Boy Scouts thing for him and (redacted by blink).
What is he talking about? What does donate DNA mean? O that is totally him, I can tell by the “I get paid to hunt” or whatever. Speaking of hunting, the abandoned cabin that volunteers found, when Grafton was told, was when he refused permission for any other searches and they got a warrant. Grafton and Sandy were seen removing a mattress from that part of the property, the one they found in the place where the outhouses were used recently. (redacted) saw him in WalMart, he looked at her and said he did not do it, I swear. Really scary.
He (Jon) did not donate DNA, it was taken from him in the parking lot of Tuckers Diner, he did not have a choice. The LE came there and showed some papers. Grafton’s was taken too, but I don’t know were, I heard it was at the area of the Pugh property, by that Shayne Austin’s parents house.
Another doozie…”
The X Factor
A former boyfriend of Holly Bobo’s, Blake Barnett, is also doing nothing to avoid being scrutinized. It is clear from his facebook postings that he is aware of his “celebrity”, and that folks following this case, are reading.
While it does not make him a bad guy, we have confirmed that he has had a background of alleged violence, in a former relationship with Holly Bobo.
He was the first name utttered by Holly Bobo’s parents, Dana and Karen, when they learned of her abduction.
That said, there is no known evidence linking Mr. Barnett to Holly’s disappearance.
Barnett is no stranger to violence, unfortunately, Blake, his brother and sister lost their parents Timothy and Janice in a brutal murder in 1993.
John Robinson, with actus reus assistance from his wife Kimberly, murdered both of the Barnett’s because they were after him for bounced checks.
Amelia, Blake’s little sister, was left in her crib for 48 hours before police found her while looking for the Barnett’s. She survived.
There have been no official suspects or persons of interest named in the disappearance of Holly Bobo in 4 weeks.
There has not been a LE update to her case since May 2.
The search effort for Holly Bobo continues.
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@Edward
Are you asking me to email you ?
I was looking around your site to email you but I do not see a link.
It is probably right in front of me and I do not see it.
I’m not saying Clint is guilty of anything, but some of the things he says make me do a double take. Like this statement at the Bobo house that moring: “”As I was writing my statement, I guess I kind of had a feeling that we might not get Holly back right away,” Clint said.”
Why? What in the world would make him think that right off the bat? It just makes me a little uncomfortable.
Also, after reading the previous Jackson Sun article from Oct 8th, and now the one from Oct 13th, I just wonder why he refused to believe his mom when she told him by phone, that Drew was not the man with Holly? He seemed to think his mom could not be trusted to know that important fact. So he waited before he got the gun and started into the woods.
He also tried to keep people from going into the woods to search for her: “So I was trying to preserve the crime scene and keep it from being disrupted because I knew the only thing we might have would be footprints, and I knew if someone stepped on them, then that’s ruined.”
Would a young man of that age really be thinking about preserving footprints at a crime scene, immediately after his sister was abducted?
Again, not blaming Clint here-but wondering about some of this stuff?
Help me out here-what do you guys make of those statements?
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But Clint said people walked all around the area where he last saw his sister and that this was one of his largest concerns.
“As I was writing my statement, I guess I kind of had a feeling that we might not get Holly back right away,” Clint said. “So I was trying to preserve the crime scene and keep it from being disrupted because I knew the only thing we might have would be footprints, and I knew if someone stepped on them, then that’s ruined.
“After I had stopped Mom and a few people and said, ‘Don’t walk up the trail and in the woods,’ people started walking up there, so I just sat down in the car and continued writing my statement out,” he said. “I wasn’t going to be able to stop everyone who was coming up here from walking where they had been.”
Holly’s mother, Karen, said she and several others ran into the woods as soon as they arrived, before they were told to turn back.
Article from Oct 13 2011
Add http in front of link!
://www.jacksonsun.com/article/20111013/NEWS25/110130314
Well of course they weren’t going to get Holly back if no one was allowed to walk into the woods to go after her until she was long gone…
@Zeus. After seeing the blood, and the Big Camo Guy, I think Clint was afraid to chase after
in the woods & was afraid for his mother to do so–instinctually, not reasoned out. And adopted a reasonable explanation for himself (footprints). There are all kinds of temperments, & he did what he constitutionally could. My daughter, tiny thing, would have charged in; son, big one, would not. But he’d need to tell himself a why.
This “new” time line has to be off. First of all, I understood that Karen’s drive to school took approx 25-30 min. She stated she left the house at 7am to go to work. JB hears the screams at approx 7:40 and goes to tell his mother, who in turn notifies Karen at the school. Clint stated he woke up at 7:50 to the dog barking, so he didn’t speak to Karen until at least 7:51 (at the earliest). There were 2-3 phone calls between them, she falls on the floor, 2 calls to 911, and yet Karen manages to leave the school and arrive home shortly after 8am???? I don’t think so. Even if they were racing to get there, it would have taken at least 20 min. This timeline is BS.
“The neighbor pulled up and she said she heard screams about 15 or 20 minutes ago and that was about eight o’clock,” Clint said. “At that time, I had my phone on my side or in my hand, and I don’t think I spoke to her, I just called 911 like Mom had said.”
Clint said that as he was dialing 911 he could hear the engine of the first patrol car coming up Swan Johnson Road, responding to his mother’s call, and that the first deputy arrived in less than 10 minutes from when his sister walked toward the woods with the man in camouflage.
Karen showed up shortly after the neighbor and the first patrol car. Terrie Bromley, a friend from school, had driven her home. Drew was at his job at the city of Parsons at 8 a.m., and Dana Bobo said he arrived home from work at about 8:30 a.m.
http://www.jacksonsun.com/article/20111009/NE…
Again reasons for me to say this case is at least odd.
One thing that last article mentions is the fact that the perp could have been on the interstate within 15 minutes….and in one of three adjacent states within 2.5 hours. I’ve always wondered why more attention wasn’t given to this fact.
chris says:
October 16, 2011 at 7:44 pm
One thing that last article mentions is the fact that the perp could have been on the interstate within 15 minutes….and in one of three adjacent states within 2.5 hours. I’ve always wondered why more attention wasn’t given to this fact.
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Chris, I agree. Most people seem to think it’s a local, but can we really say a local couldn’t jump on the highway and leave, only to return later without Holly? I think this is a realistic possibility.
8 a.m. is a commute time. She could be visable and herd by others.
The vehicle she was transported in … moved. It turned left and right and traveled on roads.
The find of the phone is imprtant and vital because it gives LE gps.
LE knows where the phone went prior to where it was found if it was intact. If it was not intact, then the perp pulled the phone early, but the c ell phone service provider still should have been able to give gps to LE from their own database.
Her body is probably within 5 miles of her home.
I think whomever did this lived close by. They took her somewhere close by and probley had a police scanner. If they lived close by there is a good chance they new them woods pretty good. Just my two cents
@Edward,
Can you elaborate? How do you know the path of the vehicle? Also, what brings you to the determinatio that she could be within 5 miles of her home?
Does anyone know if they did on the ground grid searches within a one-mile, two-mile, etc. radius of Holly’s home?
edward
What if there was more then one perp and they passed the cell phone off. I do agree with that she is probley close by. Just my two cents
Edward says:
October 17, 2011 at 12:32 pm
The find of the phone is imprtant and vital because it gives LE gps.
LE knows where the phone went prior to where it was found if it was intact. If it was not intact, then the perp pulled the phone early, but the c ell phone service provider still should have been able to give gps to LE from their own database.
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Edward, I am no expert, but I do know that not all cell phones have GPS capabilities. Also, if the phone didn’t have those abilities, then it would be harder to track where it had been. It’s easier, I think, if the phone is on and being used, such as someone making a 911 call but not sure of their exact location. Do we know if Holly’s phone had a built-in GPS? all JMO
Some random thoughts on this case…
This perp must have been familiar with the woods…or studied them…but does that mean he’s a local? Not necessarily. Could be a family member or friend of someone in town who would hunt out there once in a while.
or…
Blink-do you believe that it could be someone within local Law Enforcement? Someone who had erratic hours which gave him opportunity (could tell his wife he was working O/T etc.) who could have been scoping/stalking Holly? Some cops/military have profiles of criminals themselves and believe they’re above the law and can get away with anything.
IMO, my gut feeling is Holly had never seen this man before and he is not as local as people think he is. As for Holly’s mom- It seems as if her intuition told her that her worst nightmare was coming true- I don’t think she had any idea, as some suggested, that this would happen or has a clue who has done this…maybe she was just always concerned about her beautiful daughter falling victim to something or losing her. If my parents-ever suspected anything suspicious, or something just sounding ‘off’ regarding me or my sister (which, now thinking actually did happen a few months ago and was a false alarm) they would error on the side of caution, no matter what the case and call 911.
Also, eyewitness accounts are so foggy, subjective and often unreliable…I wonder about the “screams” that were heard from Clint and the neighbor.
Remember Elizabeth Smart’s sister who was in the room when her sister was abducted and after 6 months or so couldn’t remember anything and then one day she named the perp and even recalled the name he went by?
Sorry all of this is kind of scattered as I’ve been meaning to post about this case on here as it is just so heartbreaking. Trying to figure out what this parallel investigation is all about and hoping that LE and the TBI have some sort of concrete lead on this case/perp and aren’t just grasping at straws.
He is local. More importantly, the very small community believes he is local, which seals the possibility for me.
An example of that would be the fact that Drew was turkey hunting on Karen Bobo’s Mom’s property, and was apparently stopped to check he had permission. My own husband hunts on private land in a paid hunting club, and when I say those hunters are vigilant about who is in the woods and watching for any poaching activity, it is almost like they spend more time on that then sitting in tree stands, lol.
Again, this tells me this person knows the family well, and their habits, perhaps even that Drew was on the other side of the county that day, and would not be a factor in the abduction of Holly.
B
It also tells me that someone knew the woods behind the Bobo home and the trail was clear of OTHER turkey hunters that morning- again, has to be a local very familiar with the entry and exit of those woods.
Thanks for your insight Blink. Being from the ‘burbs, I’m not as familiar with hunting and permits etc. lol It IS almost like they spend more time ‘hunting’ down the poachers than hunting as you said.
With the information you have on the case and your opinion (if you can offer it without “compromising the investigation” as they say), do you believe Holly was targeted for vengeance (possibly against the ‘cousin’/family who seemed slightly insincere in her sorrow after the abduction), someone became obsessed with her, or perhaps this is a case of sex trafficking as some people have suggested on here?
Hmmmm……Doesn’t Drew have a brother that is friends with some of the people that have been brought up as possible suspects? I bet Clint was supposed to be out hunting that day as well…….
Blink, Do you think the perp or the perps friends/relatives might have tried to get close to Natalie in hopes of finding out more about Holly’s coming and goings and her activities (her personal info)? And what I mean by that is, that Holly didn’t want these particular people knowing her business because of previous incidents or threats.
Just a thought, is there a river near her house? I just think everyone kinda assumes she was taken in a vehicle or 4 wheeler, but what is the possibility she was taken by vehicle or 4 wheeler to a river near by and transported by a boat somewhere? I just thought I’d throw this out there. Turkey hunters wouldn’t be near or on the water would they??
And I’ve read that Clint didn’t see the perps face, but he did see him walking away. Most people have a distinctive walk. I wonder if Clint will someday recognize the walk of someone if he saw them again. I can identify any one of my friends/family/co-workers just by their walk. He might have been too far away though.
If Clint heard the perps voice and saw the perp walking, I think Clint is the key and at some point is going to remember these distinctions and will be able to name someone. Just MOO.
I also got where you were going with your last comment on 17.
Does Drew have a brother or half-brother?
We all know of NB’s profession and possible other habits. I know that she was arrested a couple of times recently, but is there a pattern of bad behavior or any proof of previous violent behavior or perhaps mental illness? Just wondering……
Re:Laurie0 says:October 17, 2011 at 9:54 pm
Edward, I am no expert, but I do know that not all cell phones have GPS capabilities. Also, if the phone didn’t have those abilities, then it would be harder to track where it had been. It’s easier, I think, if the phone is on and being used, such as someone making a 911 call but not sure of their exact location. Do we know if Holly’s phone had a built-in GPS? all JMO
There are VERY few cell phones left that don’t have GPS…some older models, possibly, but GPS is built into today’s cell phones whether you use it or not.
A cell phone can be tracked whether it is ON or OFF. It doesn’t have to be in use. The only way to turn off GPS tracking is if you take the battery out of the phone.
Re: Bridget says: October 18, 2011 at 11:36 am
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Hmmmm……Doesn’t Drew have a brother that is friends with some of the people that have been brought up as possible suspects? I bet Clint was supposed to be out hunting that day as well…….
Why do you assume Clint was supposed to be out Turkey hunting? From what I have gathered, Clint did not Turkey hunt and there have been NO reports that he was supposed to be out hunting.
And yes, Drew has a brother, but most of these young people are friends or aquaintences with one another. Small town. NO SUSPECTS have been named.
Blink,
Any information about the recent disclosure of JB (neighbor who heard Holly scream)? For what it’s worth, my neck hairs stood up when I read the Jackson Sun article. Why would any able-bodied man hear screams, go tell his elderly mother and then head off to work? Sounds hinkey to me. Who is this guy? He sure would know the comings and goings of that family and be in a position to observe Holly daily. There are rumors that he had a troubling obsession with Holly and that Dana Bobo had words with him about it.
Sorry, I forgot to add the link:
http://www.jacksonsun.com/article/20111009/NEWS25/110090330/Final-hours-Holly-Family-friends-police-reconstruct-time-before-Holly-Bobo-s-abduction
“James Barnes, a neighbor of the Bobos’, lives about 350 yards away in a mobile home beside his mother’s home. The neighbors are separated by a ravine and a small pond.
Barnes said he walked out of his home at about 7:40 that morning as he prepared to go to his construction job and heard a scream from the Bobos’ house. He told his mother, Cathy Wise, about the scream and went to work.”
Investigator,
It has been addressed previously in this thread that Clint was alleged, to not supposed to have been home that morning.
As for Drew’s brother, he would be the #1 person to know his brother would not be near Holly’s home that morning and at that EXACT time. And that maybe Clint was supposed to go with Drew. Just my opinion only.
For the locals: Was the day of Holly’s abduction, the first day of Turkey hunting?
And you are right, no suspects have been NAMED, doesn’t mean the LE doesn’t know who did it or know who *possibly* did it. Seems as though they just don’t have enough evidence to make an arrest, yet.
There is no statement or evidence of any kind that Clint was or was not supposed to be home that morning.
B
He is local. More importantly, the very small community believes he is local, which seals the possibility for me.
An example of that would be the fact that Drew was turkey hunting on Karen Bobo’s Mom’s property, and was apparently stopped to check he had permission. My own husband hunts on private land in a paid hunting club, and when I say those hunters are vigilant about who is in the woods and watching for any poaching activity, it is almost like they spend more time on that then sitting in tree stands, lol.
Again, this tells me this person knows the family well, and their habits, perhaps even that Drew was on the other side of the county that day, and would not be a factor in the abduction of Holly.
B
It also tells me that someone knew the woods behind the Bobo home and the trail was clear of OTHER turkey hunters that morning- again, has to be a local very familiar with the entry and exit of those woods.
I agree that this person was a local no doubt.
It does nto make sense to me that this person know the family well enough to know the daily habits of Mom, Dad, and Holly but not her brother. How did they miss her brother being home? He lived at home and was not visiting. This makes it appear that they had planned this possibly the night before and assumed the brother would be at work maybe? They didnt stake out the scene and wait for everyone to leave apparently or they would of known he was there. This factor throws everything off for me. The story in the Jackson paper makes no sense either. I dont believe her brother was involved in harming her, I do believe that it is quite possible he had a run in with the suspect and a direct threat was made. Even if this is the case I do not understand why the family does not just make it clear that there are things they can talk about and certain things they cannot talk about. Why do they continue to release bits and pieces of that morning? They have contradicted themselves so many times it is unbelievable. Why? If they can’t go into details because of the investigation then why not just say that and let it be? Blink you said that the Jackson account was close to what you heard from “inside” sources. So in the article it says that both the neighbor and her son heard the screams. So which one was it? TBI said that they have no knowledge of a neighbor calling 911, so did they call 911 or not? Holly’s Mother hung up on her son to call 911 and then after calling him back yelled at him to get the gun and that it wasnt Drew. At this point Clint still thinks nothing is wrong and proceeds to call his sister and her boyfriend. He then sees the blood and still thinks that her boyfriend killed a turkey. What part of what his Mother told him did he not understand? The article is unclear whether Clint actually completed the call to 911 or not.
I notice that the posters that question specific things get attacked and accused of bashing the family. I want to say I dont think this family was involved in harming their daughter and sister.
I do have a lot of problems with the way everyone involved has chose to handle things. In my opinion her cousins Whitneys behavior is bizarre and not consistent with the situation. That is IF the situation is in fact what we are being told. Her brother Clint I think he has shown inappropriate emotion or should I say no emotion in this case. I believe he could have some sort of autism spectrum disorder but I dont know. His lack of emotion is clear though. Nothing in this case is consistent with your run of the mill abduction. Holly’s Mother no question about it believe her daughter is alive. Here are a few qoutes from those involved that caught my attention.
“Its simple just let her come home. Just let her come home.” Karen Bobo
“It’s hard not knowing what she went through and where she is,” the pastor said.
- I find it odd that he speaks in past tense
“You have to get up every day and do normal things because that might be the day that Holly comes home.” Donna Goff
“Pray for our family to be reunited. One of us is missing,” Karen said. “We have to keep hoping and having faith that it is God’s plan for Holly to make it back home. When that day comes, it will be a miracle from God. That is the only way she’s coming home.”
- I find this statement very odd. She obviously doesnt think that the miracle would be her daughter being brought back to life.
It comes across to me that someone or something is standing in the way of Holly coming home has made it all but impossible and at this point it would be a miracle and only a miracle to overcome.
These comments would not be as odd if Karen Bobo, her Mother and the rest of the family had not maintained that they absouletly believe Holly is alive and count on her coming home but just dont know when.
That takes the assumption that they just want her body back off the table.
Investigator,
Yes, I agree, the whole neighbor scream thing has always been a question in the back of my mind and now that a little more was disclosed about it, even more red flags were raised in my mind. Some things I question:
1. Like you stated, why would he continue his way to work after hearing a scream, letting his mom take care of it?
2. Why did the initial reports state that it was a female neighbor that heard the scream?
3. Was there even a scream?
4. Could he have made it up as some kind of decoy? (maybe he felt he had to report something b.c Clint saw him and who would possibly report a scream if they were in on it)?
5. Why haven’t we heard from him directly?
I have heard some other rumors about him but won’t post b.c they are just that, rumors.
On the other hand, I strongly feel that whatever happened to Holly is part of something bigger going on in that town and at this point I really can’t figure out how he would tie into that. Wish we knew more about him!
@Investigator – regarding entry..
Investigator says:
October 18, 2011 at 12:20 pm
Blink,
Any information about the recent disclosure of JB (neighbor who heard Holly scream)? For what it’s worth, my neck hairs stood up when I read the Jackson Sun article. Why would any able-bodied man hear screams, go tell his elderly mother and then head off to work? Sounds hinkey to me. Who is this guy? He sure would know the comings and goings of that family and be in a position to observe Holly daily. There are rumors that he had a troubling obsession with Holly and that Dana Bobo had words with him about it.
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I was wondering the very same thing…seems odd.
It makes no sense that a grown man would hear a scream, go tell his mother he heard it, and then proceed to go to work.
I also thought that leaving your house at 7:40 for a “construction job” seemed awfully late. Most construction workers are already working way before 7:40 AM…….
And who would be more familiar with the trail in the woods, and who is actually IN the woods on a given morning than the neighbor?
On the flip side, the neighbor scenario by no means rules out one of Holly’s friends, BF’s, BF’s relatives, or a random person tied to Clint or Natalie….given the small amount of info that we have.
These are a few things that stand out to me. Besides the neighbor hearing screams which I kinda of wonder if he really did or not. The fact he works construction bothers me. I wonder what kind of construction he does or was doing that day. He would have probley had some kind of view of the property while it was being searched. This would have made it pretty easy to plant evidence a days later. He could have parked his truck or car down the road and came back through the woods to get her. Surely he would know the ends and outs. These are things that raised a flag for me. Plus the other stuff people have added. Just my two cents.
Cnog
It is a Pattern of behavior.
When he said he told his mom he had herd a scream and then went to work, was Holly already in his vehicle ? Obviously his mom had not herd the scream… She never called 911 ?
The phone ends up in the grass some distance far away from home.
LE is really missing the boat if they do not look close at him.
Would the brother recognise this male neighbor at a quick glance ?
His vehicle needs to be gone through with a fine tooth comb.
I would not discount the brother for his actions. If he has never seen violence in his life, he would discount mom as overly worried and reactive and make a few more calls. Nobody would ever hurt Holly in his young mind.
jmho
It also seems as though the male neighbor (JB), if the article is correct, could only possibly have an alibi prior to 7:40 (which would be his own mother)…..and an alibi after he arrived at work (which I would assume would be at least 10-20 minutes away).
Surely LE checked his alibis and when he arrived at work….but that still does not prevent him from confronting Holly prior to 7:40 and possibly earlier, given the mother is telling the truth and not covering for him.
But like OSUfan, I think it has to be something bigger and more complex than that…but without knowing more, all we can do is assume…….
There is no statement or evidence of any kind that Clint was or was not supposed t be home that morning.
B
This is not true. In this interview it was stated that Clint was not suppose to be home that morning and Karen spoke up and stated that no he wasn’t.
http://www.google.com/m/url?client=ms-android-htc&ei=DCqeTsDYIe7-sQKeLQ&gl=us&hl=en&q=http://www.newschannel5.com/story/15239639/holly-bobo-family-opens-up-on-openline&source=android-browser-key&ved=0CBQQFjAB&usg=AFQjCNFmevoaj5q1FhsgDDkYCAnjoOX8qA
perhaps wrong link?
B
Blink, maybe you can answer a question I have:
What would LE need in order to obtain a search warrant for the neighbor’s vehicle and trailer/mobile home?
And could they have already searched both without divulging their findings to the public?
Could it be there were 2 perps (as discussed earlier in the thread), the neighbor being the first who lured her away and got her into the car…..then “left for work” with her in it…..and she was transferred to another vehicle shortly thereafter?
This case can go in so many directions, it makes your head spin…..
Regarding the neighbor (JB) and ‘the scream’. I think there is a fairly innocent explanation for him saying something and going to work. Maybe he just said to his mother “I heard Holly scream…maybe her and Drew (or Clint) are fighting”. Even if she never fought with her boyfriend etc. the neighbor probably wouldn’t imagine there was an abduction going on. Maybe it was odd enough to mention-but he may have just chalked it up to a heated argument. Which is why I believe Clint was so naive to what was going on that morning also, besides being a groggy teenager. The mind can do funny things which is why eyewitness accounts are so often different-everyone has their own perspective (i.e. a blood curling scream to one person may sound like a scream of frustration to another).
Wondering if there was any DNA on her cell phone or lunch box which were found though I would imagine this perp was wearing gloves.
I agree with everyone that it may be odd that the neighbor didn’t do anything when he heard the screams, but there may be a valid reason, like what Scout offered-
Scout says:
October 18, 2011 at 8:55 pm
Regarding the neighbor (JB) and ‘the scream’. I think there is a fairly innocent explanation for him saying something and going to work. Maybe he just said to his mother “I heard Holly scream…maybe her and Drew (or Clint) are fighting”.
Or maybe he was just in a hurry to get to work and didn’t take the time to really think it through. We have to remember that we are all looking at this knowing Holly was taken, which the neighbor didn’t know (at least, we don’t know that he knew). Hindsight is 20/20, as they say. If neighbor guy had nothing to do with her abduction, he sure can’t be expected to respond as Karen did, with knowledge of the fact that it wasn’t Drew taking her- therefore, a problematic situation to say the least. I’m not saying the neighbor is innocent or guilty, just that people respond differently to things based on their own personal needs or history.
Why would JB report the scream if he was to blame?
And maybe he was running late, wasn’t really sure it was anything much, but took the time to tell his mom anyway. Did he say he heard Holly scream, or that he heard a scream?
I don’t know what to make of Clint worrying about footprints and keeping people from entering the woods…I only know that nothing would be further from my mind at a time like that. If he wasn’t willing to rush in there, fine, but if someone else was and was armed, I would have let them have at it. Maybe not the wisest reaction, but I would not be able to think ahead at the very moment. And I also would never have thought that it might be a long time before they saw Holly again. Both very unusual reactions, not saying suspicious, but certainly unusual.
http://www.newschannel5.com/category/107465/ o… OpenLine TV 5 N
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Scout says: October 18, 2011 at 8:55 pm
Regarding the neighbor (JB) and ‘the scream’. I think there is a fairly innocent explanation for him saying something and going to work. Maybe he just said to his mother “I heard Holly scream…maybe her and Drew (or Clint) are fighting”. Even if she never fought with her boyfriend etc. the neighbor probably wouldn’t imagine there was an abduction going on. Maybe it was odd enough to mention-but he may have just chalked it up to a heated argument. Which is why I believe Clint was so naive to what was going on that morning also, besides being a groggy teenager…SNIP
Clint is NOT a teenager. He is 25 years old.
Chris says: October 18, 2011 at 8:43 pm
Blink, maybe you can answer a question I have:
What would LE need in order to obtain a search warrant for the neighbor’s vehicle and trailer/mobile home?
And could they have already searched both without divulging their findings to the public?
I know this question was directed at Blink, but the answer is simple so please forgive me if I’m out of turn…
A search warrant would be required due to a little something called the 4th Amendment of the Constitution.
It is possible that the neighbor’s property was searched but there has been nothing to confirm this as fact, so the answer is unknown.
Was searched via permission of the owner early on.
B
Brother says: October 18, 2011 at 1:55 pm
snip…Her brother Clint I think he has shown inappropriate emotion or should I say no emotion in this case. I believe he could have some sort of autism spectrum disorder but I dont know…
There has been a lot of talk about Clint’s “mental health” but nothing to substatiate he has any mental handicap’s. It has been reported that he works 2 jobs and attends college full time, (senior year). I agree that he does appear to have a flat affect, but without knowing him personally, one can only guess that he is somewhat reserved and introverted and doen’t show a lot of emotion.
*substantiate*
jeff says: October 18, 2011 at 4:55 pm
These are a few things that stand out to me. Besides the neighbor hearing screams which I kinda of wonder if he really did or not. The fact he works construction bothers me. I wonder what kind of construction he does or was doing that day. He would have probley had some kind of view of the property while it was being searched. This would have made it pretty easy to plant evidence a days later. He could have parked his truck or car down the road and came back through the woods to get her. Surely he would know the ends and outs. These are things that raised a flag for me. Plus the other stuff people have added. Just my two cents
JB owns his own construction business. Whether or not JB had a view of the Bobo property during the searches is irrelevant in terms of the items found later as they were not located near the Bobo’s home.
There are a lot of reasons a woman would scream besides being abducted or fighting with someone, especially where they live. A snake, rodent or other animal could have startled her. Even a spider for all that matter. No matter how used to seeing something or how comfortable you are around something (afore mentioned insects/animals) if startled you won’t react the way you normally do.
I’ve been thinking about the timeline from Holly’s side since we seem to know the other side. Holly leaves the house to go to school. She’s met by the perp that tries to grab her or something. She screams. He hits her and she goes down. There’s the source of the blood pool. The perp crouches down next to her and tells her something – I dunno, shut up and cooperate maybe? They get up and he leads her to the woods.
Now the neighbor hears the scream and tells his mom. Why would he, or anyone else (Clint?), immediately think that she was being abducted? The only reason any of us have thought that is because hind sight is always 20/20. We know she was abducted and that the scream more than likely had something to do with it.
Just Wondering: that link didn’t work either. A search of newschannel5′s site only came up with the story about them being on openline, not the openline show. I haven’t been able to find any archives of the show.
Again, this tells me this person knows the family well, and their habits, perhaps even that Drew was on the other side of the county that day, and would not be a factor in the abduction of Holly.
B
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Blink,
By your comment above, do you mean Drew would not be a factor, as in he would not be around to interrupt or disrupt the abduction or whatever the perp(s) plan was that morning? OR after given it some more thought, I thought you could possibly mean that maybe given the fact that Drew would be across the county hunting, he would have a solid alibi and be ruled out as a POI rather quickly??? If so, that would tell me that this person cares greatly about Drew and didn’t want him to be implicated at all. Just a thought I had, would be interested in your thoughts on this. Thanks!
I dont know if Holly’s parents allowed Drew to spend the night ever, or vice versa, but if yes, I do wonder if someone knew he would not be in the proximity to thwart any attempts to abduct her.
Yes, I believe this individual was familiar with both the Bobo and Scott family, imo.
B
So how was Clint overlooked Blink?
I gather you believe this was very deliberate and planned from your comments.
You say this individual knew the families well and the schedules.
Clint had always lived at home and had a busy schedule just like Holly.
If they knew the family then they knew Clint was a hunter and there would be loaded guns in the house.
Why was this threat overlooked?
If the perp(s) are close to the families then it leads me to believe that the neighbor makes a convenient scapegoat for them. If it is true that Dana had a talk with him about Holly then I’m sure the family and Drew’s family would have known about it. Now, let’s narrow the playing field to the following: ex-boyfriends, relatives of the Bobo’s – NB, or Drew’s – brother or any combination of the this group??? Who had the motive???
A construction business.
That could be nothing more then somebody working out of the back of a pick up truck. Answering to nobody and arriving at job sites
not observed by others.
Anyways… I would contact a professional volunteer search team and ask if they would search for Holly.
Monica Cason may be a good pick for this area.
I only search in California.
Clint agrees to the statement in the News channel 5 plus that he was not suppose to be there that day. He doesn’t tell why he wasn’t suppose to be there?
http://www.newschannel5.com/category/107465/openline?nav=menu374_9_5&redirected=true
Maybe that link will work.
Maybe class was canceled that day or he skipped to write his paper? Also, Holly, Clint,and Drew have a lot of facebook friends. Maybe the perp knew that Drew would be hunting that day via a post or someone else’s post on facebook?