Holly Bobo Missing And Endangered: Are Suspects Naming Themselves- Odd Dodd?
Darden, TN–
On the eve of the 4 week anniversary of missing Darden, TN nursing student, Holly Bobo, new investigative details are being learned about the case. Two unofficial persons of interest have taken their case “public” in a way.
While blinkoncrime.com was aware of this information, a decision was made to withhold it in the interests of the cases “active” status previously.
That was, until today, when one of the known person’s of interests in Holly’s disappearance, outed himself publicly.
Jonathan Dodd, son of Bradley Grafton Dodd, and Dena Logan Dodd, chose the Parsons topix forum to “defend” himself against what he termed “death threats”.
Blink, Editor In Chief of www.blinkoncrime.com, was able to confirm the poster on the topix forum was indeed, Jon Dodd.
Speaking exclusively to www.blinkoncrime on the condition of anonymity, an extended family member of the Dodd family, sheds more light on Master Dodd’s claims.
“.. Yes, that is definitely him. I have no idea how he can say he does not know the Bobo family, he went to Scotts Hill with Holly for a short time. Karen Bobo, Holly’s Mom, worked for Grafton Dodd, his grandfather, when he was the principle of the Parson’s junior High when it was still there, Brad and Grafton are on the school board, there is no way that is true what is said.
Jon Dodd High School List From His myspace
When he is saying something was stolen from the property, he is talking about the ATV you wrote about before, when I saw that, I knew you were aware of him.  Sandy called the sheriffs department before she knew that Holly was missing to report that their ATV was stolen. Sandy is also the cheer leading coach at Riverside High, since forever, and she got into some minor trouble a few years back because she got caught rigging the tryouts. Nothing major, but everyone knew about it. Dena, his Mom, was a teacher at Riverside shortly after he got transferred, which is weird again.
Everyone in this family has been covering for Jon since he was a kid. I could not believe when he stabbed Brad with a scissors when he was about 8 1/2, there was a big cover up. Last year Dena moved to Gwinnett County because the grands let him get away with anything. He has a baby with Shelby Sellers and nobody really even knew about that until after.
Jon went to the great-grandparents for a while in Arab, Ala in 2006 after the girl was killed in the car accident that got his ass beat up when he said she deserved it, and again, nobody said a word. Brad and Dena started up that Boy Scouts thing for him and (redacted by blink).
What is he talking about? What does donate DNA mean? O that is totally him, I can tell by the “I get paid to hunt” or whatever. Speaking of hunting, the abandoned cabin that volunteers found, when Grafton was told, was when he refused permission for any other searches and they got a warrant. Grafton and Sandy were seen removing a mattress from that part of the property, the one they found in the place where the outhouses were used recently. (redacted) saw him in WalMart, he looked at her and said he did not do it, I swear. Really scary.
He (Jon) did not donate DNA, it was taken from him in the parking lot of Tuckers Diner, he did not have a choice. The LE came there and showed some papers. Grafton’s was taken too, but I don’t know were, I heard it was at the area of the Pugh property, by that Shayne Austin’s parents house.
Another doozie…”
The X Factor
A former boyfriend of Holly Bobo’s, Blake Barnett, is also doing nothing to avoid being scrutinized. It is clear from his facebook postings that he is aware of his “celebrity”, and that folks following this case, are reading.
While it does not make him a bad guy, we have confirmed that he has had a background of alleged violence, in a former relationship with Holly Bobo.
He was the first name utttered by Holly Bobo’s parents, Dana and Karen, when they learned of her abduction.
That said, there is no known evidence linking Mr. Barnett to Holly’s disappearance.
Barnett is no stranger to violence, unfortunately, Blake, his brother and sister lost their parents Timothy and Janice in a brutal murder in 1993.
John Robinson, with actus reus assistance from his wife Kimberly, murdered both of the Barnett’s because they were after him for bounced checks.
Amelia, Blake’s little sister, was left in her crib for 48 hours before police found her while looking for the Barnett’s. She survived.
There have been no official suspects or persons of interest named in the disappearance of Holly Bobo in 4 weeks.
There has not been a LE update to her case since May 2.
The search effort for Holly Bobo continues.
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Plus, if you look in the lower right corner of the photo, there’s a dog’s paw. I take it that’s the dog that brought the purse home? Well, judging by the size of the dog’s paw, that purse/backpack is at least as big as the dog, maybe larger. How far would a dog want to carry something that big?
Can anyone remember the description of what she was wearing the day she went missing? Was it indeed a pink shirt, pink flip flops, pink purse/backpack? I only recall reports she was wearing jeans and flip flops, but with the pink bows/posters/fliers/signs, pink must be very important.
If so, and now a pink purse/backpack is found within a mile of her house, but it’s not Holly’s just absolutely does not add up…..
And Blink….is it common for investigators to first only show a photo of evidence to a family member before bringing them in to identify it? Why not just bring them in to look at it from the get-go?
Just when you think this case can’t get anymore strange and twisted….it does.
That is a loaded question chris-
Yes, I have seen LE show a picture of an item potentially belonging to mp or victim to the family for both identifications and investigative reasons.
I have seen LE show it to suspects first if they already had knowledge through some sort of testing that it was tied to the investigation.
I am aware of, and have recommended to LE in my work to use family contacts wrt investigative information to further the case if appropriate.
I am hearing nothing but conflicting reports since this case’s inception.
If I had not had direct contact with LE sources in this case, I am not even sure I would believe half of what is going on.
The reward is bogus, nobody can get their stories straight, members of the family or confidants are blabbling bs all over the web and in the meantime, this poor girl remains missing.
Just outrageous and as I have said before, if these people are interested in finding out what happened to Holly, they best hire counsel to progress this case, imo.
B
I guess the TBI isn’t going to release any more info or clear up the purse confusion. My hope is that they have nearly enough for an arrest and they didn’t have to clear up the confusion because they are >>>>>this close to busting it wide open! Yeah, right.
Blink – do you believe that Holly’s mom saying the bag isn’t Holly’s is similar in nature/motive to Clint changing his story at the start of all this? Or are the media reports saying it’s not hers just a result of the disjoint between the parents and LE that you mentioned? I agree with you that a neutral investigation is imperative and probably the only thing that will solve this.
It is important to note that Clint did not speak to the press with “his story”. The accounts came from LE spokespeople or le in the field second or third hand, OR the gaggle of topix hairbrains pretending to be family members or searchers or just plain webberneckers.
His story never changed, and he passed a polygraph. While TBI may not come out and say this publicly, he has been cleared. I can tell you that
If I had to guess, it was not intended to hit the press the purse was found and adjustments were made. That’s all I got.
I am repeating myself. This family needs to hire an atty to understand their rights in the TN system, and then ask for them to be honored.
Why aren’t they?
B
No. 5 @ Jack
“Why aren’t they? B”
In MOO what my take is, is that they are taking advice from everyone but you. I agree they need professional help – private investigator, legal, etc. Why is the perfect question. I am glad to read that Clint is cleared officially. I still believe that this crime was committed by someone(s) that Holly knew and possibly a relative was an associate of the abductor. And, yes, I have read some of the crap on topix and it is “wild” to say the least.
Yes, good question Blink – why aren’t they hiring an atty to help? Do you think they are afraid of someone, or do you think they already know who did this and they just can’t prove it?
Complete supposition on my part, but I think they learned they could not trust some folks around them and may be gun shy. I think it may involve extended family issues and they have concerns about anything they might do getting out, but that is a guess.
I really have no reasonable explanation.
B
Assuming the family continues not to heed this advice about hiring an attorney, does that preclude a resolution in this case?
Depends on the reasons why it is not progressing, but I do believe a proactive approach might progress the case, or perhaps create new leads.
B
Just saw a commercial from news channel 4 in Nashville that said they will be running a story on their Monday newscast at 6:00pm (central standard time) titled “The Holly Bobo Case as You’ve Never Seen It Before.”
I will probably not be able to watch it bc of work, but would be curious to see what kind of info they have to throw out at this point.
Just a heads up for everyone…….
I was unable to watch the newscast, but Channel 4′s (WSMV-Nashville) web site has a short write up on the report. Sorry I cannot provide a link. Unfortunately I’m not that tech savvy. To summarize:
1. Karen Bobo has hired/contacted a private group named “Without Warning-Fight Back” to investigate the case.
2. The group is led by a woman/ PI from Brentwood, TN named Sheila Wysocki who gained fame after she solved her own college roommate’s murder 20 years after it occurred. The group also has a former Los Angeles detective (Lou Leiter) and another private investigator on the case named Liz Beatty.
3. They determined there were no less than 21 registered sex offenders in attendance when Holly sang at the coon hunt ceremony the week before she disappeared. The footage of her singing is apparently the last pictures/footage of her before she disappeared.
4. The abductor did not turn off Holly’s cell phone immediately after the incident, and thru GPS tracking they have determined at some point he returned close to the scene after the incident.
5. Apparently, the news report also contains some new interview and/or discussion with her brother Clint.
That’s all I have from the web site, if anyone saw the actual report or can provide a link to it, it would be interesting to see what other info they have.
The video of the segment is now up on the WSMV web site. Still don’t know how to link but this is what pops up when you watch: http://www.wsmv.com/story/22110225/holly-bobo-case-has-new-clues-new-detectives.
The interview with Clint (held by the Without Warning group, from what I understand) will air tomorrow night at 6PM CST.
The reporter’s name is Dennis Ferrier, I believe.
So Blink, what’s up with the info from the newscast on Nasvhille’s channel 4?
Are there credibility issues with that group of PI’s?
1. I am favor of this decision by the Bobo’s in a big way. As you know I have been in favor of them hiring a PI directly or through an attorney for 2 years. I don’t have any specifics about Ms. Wysocki and her team, but to my general knowledge Ms. Wysocki has a solid reputation.
2. I think this initial approach is solid. It may answer the question about the information on Holly’s bag- it is May sweeps week, so it looks like Ms. Wysocki may have a good handle on how usage of the media can enhance the team’s efforts.
3. I personally do not believe this is a RSO, I believe it is someone very local and known to Holly.
If everything presented in that package is correct, this becomes a case that narrows it’s suspect pool immediately, I would think. You have pings and a timeline. At 2+ years they should be releasing that specifically. Keep in mind however, it is also possible Holly was removed from the area and it was just her cell phone without her. It would be an important detail to know if her phone was removed from power or the battery died.
So who in the suspect pool had their phone on and pinging in the same location and whose was off?
Why her, and why that day are the two immediate questions that will find this suspect or suspects.
B
Wow. Another report on tonight’s newscast with more clear and concise information than we have heard to this point. The video still isn’t up, but the written summary is there. Apparently, this is going to be a “series” with yet another report tomorrow evening.
http://www.wsmv.com/story/22123465/holly-bobos-brother-tells-his-side-of-the-story.
Hope the link works. Definitely worth the read. Why wasn’t this information released by TBI?
And Blink, I guess following the timeline of the pings it makes sense that the suspect pool would include someone whose phone also matches her pings, or whose phone was turned off during that time frame.
The only alternative would be that the suspect left his phone at a different location, and left it “on” to throw this theory off……..or that the suspect didn’t have a cell phone at all.
It will be interesting to see what tomorrow night’s report reveals……..
I also still believe it was someone that she knew, and that he threatened to kill her or possibly go inside and kill her brother also if she didn’t follow his instructions.
(Also still amazed it has taken two years for this info to be released).
http://www.wsmv.com/story/22123465/holly-bobos-brother-tells-his-side-of-the-story
I copied the below three paragraphs from this story and they made me pause. The GPS Tracking device was still on her phone and working????
Apparently, LE knows way more that what’s been released, so what’s going on with no updates, nothing. Are they trying to smoke someone out?
“So, Holly Bobo and the man in camouflage disappeared into the woods and vanished. But what about those woods? Did Holly Bobo and her abductor actually disappear into the woods, or did something else happen?
“We believe he may have had a gun or knife, and they continued up this path. On the other side of these woods there is a logging road where you can easily park a vehicle. The dogs, we know, pursued and then stopped. Why would they stop right there? Because the odds are she got into a vehicle,” Mike said.
It’s a theory backed up by, of all things, a map. Holly Bobo’s abductor forgot to turn off her cell phone, so with GPS tracking, that phone can be tracked along a strange, back roads journey that ends in a surprising and upsetting possibility.
The map shows that if police had immediately blocked four roads near the Bobo home, they would have likely caught the abductor in the act.”
Soooo…..we basically have the same few young men as suspects that we had in the very beginning. All of them were well-known to Holly and lived in the area.
I seriously doubt this is an experienced abduction, as an experienced abductor doesn’t take 15-20 minutes to snatch their victim. They also know to cut the victim’s cell phone off.
Seems to me we have a narrow line up of suspects….none of them experienced. All of them spoiled? Protected? Getting skeered? I hope.
I have not had the chance to read or watch Clint’s interview but the Find Holly Bobo facebook page just shared this link and I saw it in my newsfeed. So, I read it really quick. Highly recommend reading it. Every sentence is snip worthy but I did not want to infringe on a copyright- or I would post the whole dang thing.
Blink- you have been spot on this entire time. I am truly shocked (Dr. Pepper says with sarcasm.)
Snip:
“Bobo’s abductor forgot to turn off her cell phone, so with the help of GPS tracking, the location of Bobo’s phone – inside her purse – can be plotted on a map that traces a path through Parsons and through rural Decatur and Henderson counties.
The path appears winding but deliberate. There are no turnarounds, and the abductor even stops at a remote cemetery for about 15 minutes, according to cell phone records.
They had me solidly until the “she was sold part”. I disagree and the profile of a known offender who is stalking someone, accosts them and was not aware of the brother being home is not some black market human trafficking person.
Her victimology report, assuming there is one, is screaming suspect, imo. This is where I get batty because I know that protocol was not followed and I can tell you even with limited information I can profile this offender and have.
Who responded immediately that was local? Who was on search detail that “found things”? Who clearly wanted the search to move to “out of town”?
Respectfully, here is the problem. It is obvious that the strongest leads this team has is cell ping based. I believe someone said that a few of their POI’s happened to have cells off at that time. Not the way to investigate this case, imo.
What does the ping report say from the local towers activity that coincides with Holly’s? Unfortunately this team will not be given that information from TBI, or Holly’s cell provider. I have personally written successful search warrants that involved prepaid phones in an unrelated case. If they have the cell records, they have a least a segway for process of elimination.
This offender had help in the crime. He had help in the covering up. All of it was home grown.
B
Then, as if the abduction route needed any more credibility, there were genuine clues found all along the route: a lunch box here, a notebook there, and a receipt near Interstate 40.
Most surprising of all is the map shows the abductor appeared to head back toward the area near Bobo’s home.”
Read the entire article or watch the video here:
http://www.wsmv.com/story/22135557/holly-bobos-abductor-traced-on-winding-deliberate-path
Blink, all this new info, new to the public anyway, seems to be really promising. I really hope this means there is a resolution in sight. You’re thoughts on the latest reports today?
Link to third installment: http://www.wsmv.com/story/22135557/holly-bobos-abductor-traced-on-winding-deliberate-path.
At the end of this video, they say there will be an hour-long special on sunday at noon on nashville’s cannel 4.
In regards to this news linked in 17 and 19 above, what happened at the cemetery where the vehicle was stopped for 15 minutes approx.? This information seems vital to me. Were any clues or evidence of a crime found there, car tracks, etc???? Was Holly passed off to another vehicle to be removed from the area for safekeeping or was she already taken from this world and hidden until things cooled down. The abductor returned to assist in the search. The noose is getting tighter…small circle….known abductors and maybe not that big of a surprise when it all unfolds.
I agree with everything you said Cindy except that it will be a surprise. I think the opposite. This case was solvable then, and it is not being solved to date for similar reasons, imo.
Isn’t that cemetery at close proximity to where her phone was found- going strictly from faulty memory here..
I definitely believe an ATV was used to meet another vehicle. That means 2 people, or a vehicle that can tow or haul an ATV. It also means for a time a possibly compliant victim in some manner. Is this where the scream comes in?
A ping map is only as good as the time stamps of the pings that have been verified and the time elapsed. As I stated earlier, unfortunately that could mean Holly’s cell went in one direction and she in another.
Seems unlikely to me considering the map, and what I know and have released in this case.
B
Totally agree Blink. I must have missed the part about it being black market. Will re-read.
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Bobo’s abductor forgot to turn off her cell phone, so with the help of GPS tracking, the location of Bobo’s phone – inside her purse – can be plotted on a map that traces a path through Parsons and through rural Decatur and Henderson counties.
http://www.wrcbtv.com/story/22143658/holly-bobos-abductor-traced-on-winding-deliberate-path
I’m kinda like…..they just decided to check her cell phone pings/maps? This seems like a routine part of investigation these days.
TBI has had this information for 2 years. It was the impetus for warrants or this team would have none of it.
I wonder if her abduction date has been run down for each POI for relevance?
B
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I wonder if her abduction date has been run down for each POI for relevance?
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Probably. We’ll find out in another 2 years. This is exasperating!
Blink
Just an assumption here but if they were at the cementary for 15 minutas. This would mean at some point along that journy the perps would have had to call each other. I find it hard to believe le wouldn’t have checked in their circle of suspects who’s phones were communicated with whoms. So whats hindering arrest and warrents to search cell phone records of the suspects.
2 way with private channel or digitial scramble.
B
I am assuming the person was coming back towards the bobo’s to either help in the search or go home. So if the perp was coming back to search for holly, my question would be how did the perp find out. Did someone call the perp and let them know. Again I go back to who’s phones were communicated with whoms.
Blink
I get the impression they were moving her around town so they weren’t detected. However it looks like the perp or perps tried to make it look like she left town. Also who decides which way you go during a search party. It takes a few hours maybe even a day to get cell phone information, so who makes that decesion.
I am learning a lot here. TBI holds GPS map information close to the vest and does not progress the case for two years. This information not released without a warrant for the information? WTH. I wonder if there is any other evidence that is pertinent to this investigation or would the p.i. have gotten everything with warrants? The family should have hired an investigator a lot sooner and no wonder there is a disjoint between LE and the family.
Blink,
Can you tell us what your profile says as to the motivation
Of this abduction?
Motivations as I see the case:
1. Mission Oriented- meaning something about her abduction was relative to a situation it furthered, or ended. This requires at the very least, a victimology profile study. It is also usually ends in a publicly displayed deceased.
2. Unrequited or secret association, romantic or non. Again, requires vic study.
PS: Subject to change or update in the event of new information.
It’s possible the suspect came back to the bobo’s and joined the intial search party. Apparently this person felt that his presence had to be there or people would suspect something was wrong. Does this speak to how close he was to the family. I am not sure if the cell phone pings happened in one day or over a period. Just my thoughts.
We’ve all discussed the possible suspects. But just throwing this out there, what if it were an older man, perhaps related to a scorned son. Or maybe a man who even flirted with Holly himself and she was repulsed by his attentions? And since it looks as though this crime were committed by a duo or more, maybe a father-son combo? In the back of my mind I still think it is possible that a female is involved in some way. It sounds a little crazy, but that would certainly surprise me.
Blink.
Still in moderation on post #27.
Just fyi.
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kimberly-
Thanks for calling me out my friend, I needed to think on how to answer your post and I am knee deep in Arias jury watch. I will respond.
B
Thank ya much my busy friend….
Don’t let your brain explode with the JA insanity,
We need ya with us.
The cell phone pings were said to have been all within an hour according to the news segment, with a 15 minute interval close to the cemetery before they were on the move again…just because it pinged close to the cemetery, doesn’t mean they were AT the cemetery imo, it just means that is the tower that the pings came from. They kinda lead us to believe they were AT that cemetery for 15 minutes. If you look at the map of what property whould use that tower, there is Dodd property very nearby. Any thoughts on that Blink? (the jury does not deliberate again until tomorrow, so hopefully you are to where you can respond )
Blink, let’s see your profile. This is mine… DFJ worked for a company that built & remodeled Hotels in TN. Remember the Motel Keycard that was located on the search but censored by you?
Donnie Frank Jones jr; confessed abductor/murderer of Tn nursing student Megan Sharpton 07/2012.
DFJ, had a felony anhydrous ammonia charge(meth),rape, kidnapping, 2 prison escapes, and attempt to fake his own death, among his 23 total felony charges, since age 12. DFJ was 36 when arrested for felon in possession of a firearm.
DFJ had Means, Motive, Opportunity, in Holly Bobo’s abduction.
DFJ released from parole/probation 04/2011
DFJ worked for a company that built & remodelled Hotels in TN.
DFJ used a ruse to abduct Megan Sharpton (was the 2nd attempt on her)(DFJ attempted the same ruse on another green eyed, blonde haired nursing student, but aborted the plan/mission when she called & said that her mother was coming with her.
DFJ taunted Megan’s family during her murder investigation.
DFJ was an experienced sexual predator sadistic psychopath that was familiar with LE SOPs, shift change time, stalked his victims, purchased multiple track phones & emails, multiple aliases, fits physical profile, etc..
DFJ, is very experienced, calculating, deflective, manipulative, and creative.
DFJ utilized multiple (3)police jurisdictions in Megan Sharpton’s abduction/rape/murder and set her on fire pre-mortem..
etc…
Threw this preliminary profile together of unknown suspect from observations on 04/13/2011; the morning of Holly’s abduction;
Profile of Unknown Abductor from observations-jmho
aproximate age mid 40s to 50 stranger – sociopath/psychopath
caucausion – transient worker/construction
experienced-gaines immediate compliance of victim-organized-disciplined-antisocial-120+ IQ
selects, recons, & stalks victims-military/hunting experience
prior criminal record/probable RSO – familiar with LE procedures, schedules, response times & forensics-full camo- monitors LE during abduction
sexual predator-lust killer is often driven to kill due to a sexual motivation, living out sexual fantasies & control over the life of the victim-drug induced
Sadistic, bondage, rituals
narcisstic – enjoys the game/taunting
calculating, opportunist, cagey
Vehicle 4 wheel drive PU or SUV small/mid size – Utilizes forests and abandoned structures as safe havens..
“There’s much more that can’t be released due to DFJ jr., rescinding his confession..
Wolfscratch
Oy. Read Here Much? I broke the Donnie Jones
I realize that for reasons I do not understand you like to conspiralize. Megan Sharpton’s case is not related to Holly Bobo’s and I am well aware of your (and others ) attempts to try to make them- to the unnecessary strain of her family member’s I might add.
That’s not a profile that is a laundry list mish mash. What is your deal exactly? You have zero idea what you are talking about- at ALL. Perhaps you might consider you should be scratching something else.
B
Cindy,
I agree with what your saying. I think the key is the person not knowing that clint was home. Who know’s the bobo’s well enough to know their schedule but not well enough to know if their son’s home. Tells me the perps at least see them enough to know when their not home. I always thought the people who did this might be related. It’s kind of hard to establish something without knowing a motive.
Correct. She knew this person. Not just because they were crouched in the garage talking the same place her own blood was found in full view of Clint, but because her own brother saw them, and though it was an intimate conversation. He thought it was a break up. That detail is critical. she knew him, he knew her schedule, he knew the family schedule enough to take the chance.
B
B, you mentioned in a previous post that you prepared a profile of Holly’s abductor.. Please share..
No, the question was wrt to motivations of the profile which I responded to. I am more than on the record in the case- and I am off the record with the appropriate LEA’s as I do strongly believe this is a narrow suspect pool.
You aren’t one of those half-wits who was bothering the family are you?
B
RE: You aren’t one of those half-wits who was bothering the family are you?
B
No B, according to my info, you are….The innocent victims & their families are my only concern..
I am the half wit that located the hotel key card on the Easter afternoon search that wasn’t entered in to evidence, although it was bagged & tagged by the official.
Well then, your info would be false, in fact, several attempts by people claiming to be family and friends of the Bobo’s have requested my assistance in this matter and I have respectfully declined for reasons I perceived as a conflict of interest, and the various other suggestions I had for them which can be found on this site.
Leads developed by myself and by my team were turned over to TBI as appropriate. If you have any legit contacts within, I suggest you verify that yourself. This is an active criminal investigation, as is/was Megan Sharpton’s. Not an outlet for trolls in need of attention.
If it is true victims and families are your concern, then you may wish to get your facts straight and stop with the tin hat nonsense. I do not see how that is helpful. Nor is attacking me because I won’t validate you allegedly found a hotel card key that can be confirmed connected to this case. Or because you can google potential characteristics of various offenders that have nothing to do with this case. Why would you be so desperate for that in the first place?
If you feel you have a potential contribution to Holly’s case I recommend you contact Ms. Wysocki and her team if TBI is not receptive. I do not have the time or inclination to banter with you.
B
I simply asked you a question and you attacked my character and credibility rather than providing a simple answer.
RE: Active investigation
Perceived hypothesis is the primary reason that investigations grow cold. Adam Walsh’s case went cold for 3 decades due to this and a less than professional investigation.
Many faulty conclusions were assumed by investigators and others on day one of the Holly Bobo abduction. Another primary reason her case has grown cold, imo, is due to the TBI’s antiquated strategy of silence; squandering their most valuable resource; the American public…
Wolfscratch
Wolfie- That is passive aggressive claptrap. Read your own comments to me. It is you that came to my site, apparently never reading my coverage on Sharpton or any of my comments in this case, baiting me and you know it. Had you taken the time to do so, you would have known that you are out of line and flat out wrong. I have a track record that speaks for itself- if you don’t feel that commands a level of your respect than this is probably not a good venue for you.
We do agree that the TBI is antiquated and that many investigations stall due to LE error. The difference is I have actually done something about it.
B
Blink
The fact that the phone wasn’t shut off right away. Do you think this shows the perps lack of expirence in abduction? Also if this is the case do you think this might give a hint has to the age of the person. To me someone that has a history of doing something like this isn’t going to leave the cell phone on.
I do not believe this is an organized offender, which is what I think you are asking me. I believe Holly’s abduction was precipitated by a triggering event of some kind, either known or unknown to her as to her level of importance in it.
This appears to me to be a combination of pre-planned and impulse/reactive offender behavior. Meaning, the sophistication of the suspect’s own “abilities” supercede the actual. As an example- abducting a person looks easy on TV, right?
Don’t say a word or I will shoot you in the face keep your head down and walk close- right? Bullchit. The fact that Holly was wounded to the point she bled onto the garage floor and she was witnessed crouching closely and heard to say no with a sense of distress in her voice tells me something may have gone wrong from the start. Why not run? The fact that Clint did not hear the scream but the neighbor did makes me wonder if she screamed once she got deeper into the woods and saw another person, or perhaps whatever he may have used to lure her and gain compliance was apparent to her. He is then mobile and here is the thing- we know people were calling and calling and calling her phone at this point- it is pinging.
This means to me she was incapacitated, separated from her phone, the ringer was off, or the phone is with her in a place where the offender cannot hear it ringing to alert him to turn it off.- again, if this was intentional there is no motive for it, and I don’t think it was. This implies to me that once this plan commenced, this suspect panicked, or was immediately operating at heightened distress.
Typically speaking if this was a sexually motivated abduction- that offender has a host of other issues going on but the least of which is not lack of planning and frequent run throughs. It is unlikely that offender picks Holly as his target randomly, and it is unlikely that he is going to take the chance of taking her from her home, which he access from the acreage behind it with a waiting vehicle while walking with her, in broad daylight with no idea that 911 would initiate immediate response.
That type of offender is usually an older male, and will have some light crime in his background but is not an RSO. I don’t think this in play here, but I could not exclude a younger version of him who is escalating early for some reason.
I truly believe LE knows who this is, but may not feel they have sufficient evidence, nor have they recovered Holly, to prosecute. I will also say having just been through the case of Megan Sharpton, and Karen Swift- I can tell you I have NEVER seen an indictment system like that in my life. Prosecutors in that state despise trying cases at all, let alone any they don’t perceive as slam dunks.
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I agree with everything your wrote. I always think three ways in this case. One it was a family friend that did something for her and he thinks that entitles holly to do some kind of favor for him. She rejects him and it leads to this. Two ex/ or current b/f, for obvious reasons. Three this jd everyone talks about but I would need a motive there. They haven’t established one. My last thing would be a RSO. Thats my list so far which is subject to change. I also agree with your last statement about them trying cases.
I have responded in general terms and will continue to do so as this is an active case I have personally been involved in, and because I want to impart the knowledge that even as trained analysts, people can tend to overthink in cases that remain unsolved. Generally people are of the opinion that if it is so obvious and easy as a known local, they would find Holly and/or the suspect would be under arrest. Hell to the No.
My syllabus is replete with cases that take YEARS to arrest or convict suspect numero uno. I pray that does not happen in this case.
For me this is a solvable case with logical and known suspects lacking the evidentiary requirements to progress it and OR… what I also highly suspect is local LE error compromising a component of the case. Like for example, and this is not something I know in this case, strictly a hypothetical- Maybe the actions of an undertrained officer with good intentions took a voluntary DNA swab from someone he asked for one- and when asked if the individual was considered a suspect in the case, the officer said no, when in fact, he certainly was. He did this off warrant in this scenario. The seeds of that poisonous tree are long and deep.
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I don’t remember seeing this discussed. Have cadaver dogs been involved in any of the searches recently possibly in conjunction with this new map?
To my knowledge they were used long ago. Keep in mind this information is two years old and LE had it before anyone. However, that does not mean she could not be located within this zone. I have personally walked past shrouded evidence in a death investigation and search and found a possible murder weapon at the end of a methane-laden pond. Add to that some searchers were untrained and some planted or attempted to taint searches.
Cadaver k-9′s when trained and handled correctly are A M A Z I N G animals. But in the words of my friend and colleague Monica Caison, they are not miracle dogs. They have to be working within the radius of a suspected possible burial site or crime scene with appropriate biological trace evidence. If I had the right intel, she and her team at CUE would be my first call. Nobody knows SAR better than she.
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I have been following the jessica heerzinga case. A secret service agent just offered them help with dat analysis. Such has analyzing data on cell phones and doing cross checks etc.. If this resource is available in missing person cases why wasn’t it used. Do you think it would be a good resource to use with the data they have
If the TBI has not used every available resource to them they are negligent in this investigation, period. That said, I am aware of the Secret Service Technology and have reviewed it previously. It may not be helpful given the cell ranges in the Bobo case, and as far as reproducing unallocated data, I hope they were consulted.
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Thanks for your answers. I know cases can be a tangled and difficult messes to sort through. I believe this case is solvable and don’t think the LE is dealing with masterminds. I think that is my biggest issue right now and that I don’t think these people responsible are criminal masterminds. It seems like LE has decided to let this case turn cold. Thats my biggest complaint.
You are not hijacking my site and this thread with your delusions of self importance. My best to you.
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B, the TBI was contacted for assistance within minutes by DC Sheriff Wyatt. It was 7 days before a road block was iniated..Do the math..
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Blink, did you happed to read my post and have any thougts on the properties nearby?
Jana, not sure.
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Wink from blink
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I honestly think that everyone is looking into this entirely too much. I think that the answers are right in front of our faces and have been since day one. All of the confusion and lack of information plays a huge role in not being able to stick to one opinion. JMO.
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You should expect if you come to my house to be courteous and respectful to me and my other guests. You will find that if you do, you will be treated the same in return.
You are not welcome to post meritless conspiracy theories of which I have personal first hand knowledge to be false and that you have posted all over the web and were met with similar reaction.
I request that if a reader/poster is going to comment here, that they have read the material of interest as well as the comments and my responses to keep the dialogue progressive.
You contributions were disruptive and time consuming. Last warning.
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Back to the beginning, stolen ATV, white pickup truck seen speeding in the vicinity, searcher possibly part of abduction, planted evidence, phone left on in error so gps mapping, family routine, knowledge of area, …. we actually know a lot of information.
What we don’t know as Blink pointed out above is the Victim’s Profile – did the TBI do one?
Has the TBI requested help from other agencies? What is their role at this point? Are they still investigating of is it still in conjunction with the local LE?
Is the prominence of someone involved or their family making them untouchable or just a little harder to slap the cuffs on?
TOMORROW AT 6 PM EST TV 4 WSMV – Is HOLLY BOBO”S KIDNAPPER TAUNTING HER FAMILY?
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http://www.wsmv.com/