Susan Powell Search: Unidentified Remains Found
Topaz Mountain, Utah- In a search effort today, based solely on intelligence gained by recent warrants served on Joshua Powell, the husband of missing Utah woman Susan Powell, human remains have been located.
Cadaver dog teams were utilized this afternoon, and confirmed positive alerts in an area Josh Powell is known to “rock hunt”.
The waiting game begins, the remains could not be identified as that of a man or woman, and the medical examiner is enroute. Abc4 , who had been invited by the search effort, was subsequently restricted from the crime scene upon recovery.
Chuck Cox, father of Susan Cox Powell, said he believes police are close to completing their investigation in this case and it is due for a break, but stopped short of confirming if he believes are the remains of his daughter.
“I absolutely believe they have a specific reason for being there.”
Related Posts
Related Posts:
170 Comments
RSS feed for comments on this post. TrackBack URI
It’s so disappointing yet the releases are oddly positive. They haven’t packed the gear and called it done. The wording in one of the releases remarked “recently disturbed” shallow grave so I choose to motor along in the idea that it was a bona fide grave that somebody got a litlle worried about. Maybe that somebody felt an overwhelming, sweatin bullets type of fear and moved their ‘loved one’ to another place?
Tick,tock,tick tock…atta boy cadaver dogs
@ Sue #24. I agree. Does anyone know if Steven Powell has an alibi for the day Susan went missing. It wouldn’t surprise if Steven murdered Susan while Josh took the boys out of the house.
They’re know saying that bones and clothing weren’t found but the dogs are hitting on remains. Maybe there’s decomp fluid or blood in the dirt? Maybe it’s possible Susan was there at one time but since moved…
@Wildflower: “excellent police work”
Whoa there flower of the hinterlands…
I am very much a defender of LE in the vast majority of situations. I am afraid that in this case the best WVPD can do is salvage a pathetic and extraordinarily costly botchery overall. If you could not determine the perpetrator or co-perpetrator in this case within the first 60 minutes of this investigation, if you couldn’t roll the foam peanut brained suspect in this case in the first 24 hours of this inquiry, you are NOT a detective, you are NOT an investigative agency. You should stick to parking tickets. The “husband” is cro-magnon in intellect and sophistication. He is clearly barely capable of base function as an adult human. He makes Miskelly read like Copernicus. Freak-in-law thinks for two with the brain of half from his compound full of failed children.
News reporters including Chris Jones had to completely back off [read: jam on the frickin brakes]in interviews with foam peanut (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCXDpQEfZm8)because they had him ready to confess and they suddenly became aware that they could potentially damage the case by continuing.
Not to put words in reporter Jone’s mouth but obviously he suddenly realized he was one question from a conviction and he surely was thinking this assclown is a wet piece of cardboard & law enforcement will come behind and wrap this up by news at 11.
Not so fast. West Valley City is no Los Alamos. If it were it would have sacked their whole LE apparatus long ago. What has been on display by this agency in this matter is Keystone. This is a case and body recovery that should have taken 72 hours at most to clear and 10 days to wrap-up for any remotely competent small town sheriff or PD. It has now gone so absurdly beyond circus that a legal audit should be performed on all WVPD-related convictions in the last 5 years.
WVPD cannot manage media inquiry, they cannot issue a coherent press release, they clearly can’t professionally interview suspects, they are scared to death of lawyers and churches and they are an embarrassment to the community. They can’t do their job without a pony show. They can’t shut up. They need a sign at the door that says “It’s the you stupid, so shut up already”
Let us hope that somehow they will manage to stumble into an arraignment and conviction before this woman’s children strike out on the chance for an upbringing outside of a den of fools and charlatans. I still think Chris Jones can wrap this up in fifteen minutes if he can catch ole Josh at the donut shop. Lets deputize Mr. Jones and save us all four more years and a couple million in field trips.
Bob Hayward once put a good dent in Ted Bundy right in old WVC. That was good police work. Bob was Utah Highway Patrol if I recall. Maybe Bob can do a little seminar in common sense and suspicion over at the PD.
lizzy says:
August 30, 2011 at 11:12 am
http://www.abc4.com/content/news/blogs/story/Marcos-Ortiz-Wheres-Josh-Powell/qPz7T1oxkk6yK4o3jfIh4g.cspx
Is this for real? Steven Powell says that Josh took off with the two kids at about midnight last Friday to go camping.
Honestly, I think he is effing with LE. They both are.
B
******
Could he have made another trip just recently to look for Gems in Utah? Would he that dumb?
” lizzy says:
September 16, 2011 at 9:31 am
I wonder what, after so long, has produced such a concentration effort on the part of LE in this case. Was someone new brought in to work on it? Some new information come to LE? Because otherwise I don’t see why the warrants, etc., didn’t happen a year ago.”
—————————-
I don’t understand this either. Love and prayers to Susan’s family and friends.
http://www.komonews.com/news/local/129952253.html
Sorry, I’m not sure how to post a link. But above is the latest from the Komo 4 news site. It contains some “explanations” for the sudden switch in info. I agree with others here and wonder if the initial news did have something to do with watching what a certain someone(s) would do. Either way the article makes it sound like authorities are still hopeful.
Wow. The link worked. I feel so empowered now! LOL
@joeamerica
Three words: st. Johns wart
But seriously- there is a lot I agree with in your post, but I have some reservations about your delivery.
I remember the Jones interview vividly , I don’t think Josh was going to confess and I don’t think Jones would have stopped him, but agreed ic that is what WVPD had to work with and now the like of his sleeve dad, I have some concerns about the early work in this case.
If the remains found snafu was some sort of ruse and I am not suggesting it was, I will be the first to say I have no.flipping idea what is going on in this case.
Y’all are sick of me saying this, but small jurisdictions without much Mp case experience should field the case to a taskforce.
@ ode
Yes he is definitely that dumb.
It started raining after LE had dug where dogs hit. They are able to protect the site, thankfully.
Joe,usa.
I agree that the local pd could have done a different job.
Because I’m not an LE professional, I’m not sure how their
interviewing techniques could have been better and netted a
confession, location of body, or been wrapped up in ten days.
I’m sure they believe they are doing the best job they are able to do.
(Without bringing in outside assistance, naturally.)
How did you determine the extent of their interviewing skills?
Chris Jone s interview was definitely an amazing piece. He got lucky that C. Magnon hadn’t gotten his lies together yet. I’ve never seen anyone act more guilty on national television (well, besides some politicians, that is.)
Blink’s joke about cooling some jets: I agree that St. John’s Wort is a good starting place as it is cheap and easy to obtain. However, there are some Major contraindications and drug *interactions* with St John’s Wort, so it behooves one to research well before taking it.
(if you’re taking other depression medicine, have psychosis, anxiety, heart problems, are taking liver-affecting meds (like allegra, digoxin, tons more) or do not take the recommended dosage you can be taking a dangerous little chill pill.
Blink,
My lead photo depicts the ATV LE decapped. Somebody got a problem or are my eyes playing tricks (evil tricks) on me?
Examination halted of shallow ‘grave’ in Susan Powell search
http://www.katu.com/news/national/129952253.html
**Even though this Link is KATU [Portland] – Video is KOMO [Seattle]
Be sure to watch video — shows terrain/SAR w/dogs/ATV – also LE talking about ‘search’
Make note of ‘still photo BEFORE video starts showing LE etc around the ‘site’.
DELTA, Utah (AP) – The excavation of what authorities have been calling a shallow grave in the central Utah desert stopped Friday afternoon as rain and wind combined with limited resources to hamper efforts to examine piles of dirt for human remains.
Authorities have been in the area since Monday searching for any clues in the disappearance of Susan Powell, a mother of two who vanished in 2009. On Thursday, investigators announced they had discovered human remains after cadaver dogs alerted them to the site. But authorities later acknowledged that nothing had yet been found.
New dogs brought to the area Friday hit on the same location, and authorities say they’ll keep digging until the dogs stop signaling.
“It’s slower than we anticipated,” West Valley City Police Lt. Bill Merritt said Friday. “It’s another delay. It’s disappointing. It’s frustrating. We all want to know what’s down there.”
Earlier in the day, Merritt said authorities were “still very confident that there’s some type of remains in that hole.”
Police had been waiting Friday for additional forensic specialists to assist in sifting through the dirt, looking for any material that appears out of place, including bone fragments, jewelry, clothing and human tissue.
But they decided to stop for the day and cover the site with tarps to protect it from rain. They planned to resume excavation Saturday morning.
By midday, they had dug several feet but found nothing. Meanwhile, Susan Powell’s father, Chuck Cox, arrived, saying he needed to come to the site.
“I just feel this is a worthwhile investigation and I need to stay until I know what it is they have found,” Cox said, his eyes tearing.
FWIW – adding to Blink’s comment earlier of “Josh’s sunburn/frost burn” -
The area where authorities are now working is in a rugged remote section of Utah’s central high desert surrounded by grasses and sagebrush and punctuated by jagged mountains rising from the flat landscape.
At the time of year Susan Powell vanished, it would have been ***bitter cold, the rocky ground frozen***
Josh Powell was driving a minivan that night. Merritt said the site would have been ***difficult to reach in December but not impossible***
- AND from the POI -
The Powell family put out a statement this week urging police to release more details about what they are finding. Josh Powell hasn’t returned repeated calls from The Associated Press.
[snark attack --- just when 'dumb & dumber' believed THEY held ALL the cards -- how 'dare' the investigation leave THEM out of the loop. so to speak. AMO]
http://www.katu.com/news/national/129952253.html
I wanted to include a little more to my out rage towards ‘step-mother’ Elisa Baker’s ‘plea deal’ for the murder of Zahra.
“Elisa” got a ‘deal’ but STILL was NOT required to ‘confess’ the location of where the ‘rest of Zahra’s remains are’.
The included link/s detail ‘what bones of Zahra’s remains were found & those bones/remains that have never been recovered’.
Why, why, WHY “did not Elisa Baker plea include the requirement to give the location/s of missing remains so Zahra can be truly laid to rest ??? Considering @ trial Elisa had a 30+yr sentence hanging over her head — wouldn’t that be leverage in a plea deal?? Instead she is given max 18yrs & NO requirement to give any further info to locate Zahra’s remains … ”
The state attny gets a ‘win’ in his/her column -but- there is STILL pieces of Zahra that have never been located …. I just do NOT ‘understand the plea’.
AMO
Zahra Baker’s Parents Plead With Elisa Baker for Girl’s Skull
http://abcnews.go.com/US/zahra-baker-parents-beg-elisa-baker-reveal-location/story?id=14527211
The biological parents of Zahra Baker begged Elisa Baker, the stepmother who pleaded guilty to killing and dismembering the disabled North Carolina girl, to tell them the location of the rest of Zahra’s remains.
“I feel there will be no real justice for Zahra,” said Emily Deitrich, the girl’s biological mother who traveled from Australia to see Elisa Baker’s sentencing. “Her life was taken by an evil selfishness … Part of Zahra is still out there… What I truly want to see is Zahra be given the dignity and respect she deserves.”
“If at any time you actually cared for Zahra, please tell us where we can find any more of Zahra’s remains so she can be laid to rest,” said Zahra’s father and Elisa Baker’s husband, Adam Baker.
Zahra Baker had a short, brutal life. She lost a leg and much of her hearing in two bouts with bone cancer, and relatives and friends say she was abused and frequently bruised by her stepmother.
She was reported missing on Oct. 9, 2010. Her prosthetic leg was found Oct. 27, 2010. Portions of her dismembered remains were later found, but her skull, her hands, one leg and an arm are still missing.
Here is LINK/s for ME report & Autopsy *** DISCLAIMER: May be too Graphic for some ***
http://www2.hickoryrecord.com/mgmedia/file/106/medical-examiners-report-zahras-remains/
http://www2.hickoryrecord.com/mgmedia/file/105/zahra-baker-autopsy-report/
________________________________________________________________________________________________
@Carol says:
September 16, 2011 at 6:38 am
OFF TOPIC BUT…
Elisa Baker plead guilty yesterday to killing her daughter Zahara Baker. She will be spending the next 18 years in jail. Not nearly enough time in my opinion.
But she’s off the streets and unable to harm any other defenseless children.
Douche.
@ Morgan says:
September 16, 2011 at 6:45 am
Riverpearl says:
September 15, 2011 at 12:55 pm
There is something terribly, terribly wrong here! “Up to” 18 years? I’ve not been so angry since Cword walked! Please don’t tell me this piece of trash stepmother will accrue points for good behavior and be out in 18 months! How do they figure 2nd degree murder? Zahra was horribly abused, brutally murdered, purposefully dismembered and scattered all over the place!
Today isn’t working out too well for our victims, is it? Susan hasn’t been found. Justice has only been partially served Zahra. Cword has to reimburse but $100000 of the $500000 it cost to investigate and prosecute this. The SA is entitled to a measly fifty bucks?
I think I’ll go back to bed, pull the covers up over my head and hope that when I wake up all of this headline news stuff will have been but a bad dream.
Word Girl
My photo is complete with head and cap. Shall we get out the magnifying glass? Teasing.
I completely agree with Blink about small town LE personnel. In the first place, the salaries paid are not sufficient to attract quality, well educated people. In the second place, if the college classes relating to criminal justice attract mostly the lower third of the high school graduating classes, as they do in Texas, we will never have top quality people in LE. The standards need to be raised.
The only other way IMO is to create special groups in a state, that are required to have jurisdiction in any missing persons or potential homicide case.
Having driven extensively across the state of Utah, I can say that some of the areas are so remote, that few people go there without a special reason. Just drive out to the area where the two railroads met to complete the transcontinental railroad. It is miles and miles into the desert. The only people who go there are those interested in a piece of history.
Thanks, ATG. My photo subject is now wearing his head again. Must have been a partial page load.
Good information from you and RPearl about Utah. I still don’t know why Josh’s hands were “burned.” I get ‘chapped’ for many reasons. Are we suggesting he set something on fire, besides a s’mores pit?
Josh’s sunburn/frostburn may mean even more now that LE has found charred pieces of wood in the shallow grave they have been sifting through….
“First find at Susan Powell dig: charred wood”
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44563882/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/#.TnU7l9REPJE
Well, charred wood chips would explain the playing with fire situation.
How long would it take to burn a body in those elements?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/17/search-for-susan-powell-m_n_967485.html?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk3%7C96544
Word Girl ~ looks as if “the hive mind” kicked in today ‘cuz I just read:
“Authorities found small charred wood chips that were being taken to Salt Lake City for further examination.”
“They obviously have some type of human decomposition on them because that’s what the dogs are hitting on,” West Valley City Lt. Bill Merritt said “.
“Search continues after three days of futile digging”
LAS VEGAS REVIEW-JOURNAL [site I read from BUT will NOT post w/LINK]
@ Word Girl says:
September 17, 2011 at 4:09 pm
Thanks, ATG. My photo subject is now wearing his head again. Must have been a partial page load.
Good information from you and RPearl about Utah. I still don’t know why Josh’s hands were “burned.” I get ‘chapped’ for many reasons. Are we suggesting he set something on fire, besides a s’mores pit?
LE seems “very postive” ….
Does desert gravesite hold Susan Powell’s remains?
- SALT LAKE TRIBUNE -
Police searching for signs of Susan Cox Powell are continuing to excavate an area where cadaver dogs have indicated there are human remains. West Valley City police Lt. Bill Merritt said Thursday afternoon that U.S. Bureau of Land Management archaeologist Joelle McCarthy determined any remains would neither be ancient nor likely to belong to an American Indian.
Soil at the site showed signs of a recent disturbance indicating remains would be less than 10 years old, Merritt said. Investigators by Thursday evening had dug an area about 2 feet wide and 1 foot deep at the site but did not discover any bones before stopping for the day at 6 p.m.
The dig will continue as long as the cadaver dogs — able to detect remains buried as much as 12 feet deep — are indicating, said Merritt. He said the cadaver dogs alerted their handlers to a location with “upturned soil” Wednesday afternoon.
Nielsen said Thursday he is confident the disappearance will be solved.
“It will be probably one of the most significant things we’ve done in 30 years,” Nielsen said.
@ anyone.
Can someone tell me how we got to burned from chapped?
If seven dogs alerted on burnt worships I have to tell you even some of the best dogs cannot alert through fire damage. There is no doubt there was human decomposition detected at that site.
@Riverpearl
I hope they stay at it. Are they working from aerial comparisons as well I hope ?
Blink~ if the dogs are only alerting to scent left on the burned WOOD would it be possible for the generator to have been used to power a big blowtorch? Would a blowtorch incinerate human bone?
All this is really confusing.
Here’s some information on how long it takes to burn a body. There is a lot more info if you’re interested. In the past, the royalty were buried, the rest publicly cremated; just this past May the former PM of Katmandu was cremated at their famous riverside site.
http://www.zoklet.net/bbs/showthread.php?t=83707
(Some odd answers, but interesting…maybe writer’s research.)
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20101105004004AAAWG6o
(From retired fire investigator.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cremation
I read somewhere that the public cremations burn for a long time but the body is disintegrated in 1.5 to 2 hours…but who knows how hot the fire, air temp, etcetera.
Low priority topic, but I’m still bothered about why A BC was invited to the search effort on Topaz and not other media?
Playing favorites?
LOL…for my question about the blowtorch. I’m sure you’re not a blowtorch savant or anything but you are the go to person for such answers..if not you, some wise other Blinkster. (Or maybe it’s the stupidest thought ever!)
I am hoping and praying Susan’s family has some answers soon.
I have refrained so far from commenting in this news Blink- i was silently sitting by praying.
I want to now extend my prayers to Susans family and to her babes.
- Blink, If this site is the site and the dogs did alert here, a body may not have been found because it was never actually placed there as a permanent spot. Perhaps the killer thought better of leaving her there, but laid her body down for a time while he tried to prepare the spot- perhaps he gave up and took her somewhere else. or God forbid he dismembered the remains and left pieces here and there, and an animal carried off whatever might have been there? IDK
I have to say – even though I agree that some dogs are not trained very well, and their noses may be confused over burnt wood or other- well trained dogs are trained to look for bodies and remains from fire related deaths- recovering the victims from nothing but charred remnants and ashes, so I am not sure if the burnt wood or other is cause of confusion of the dogs. I guess without knowing the training of the dogs its hard to say why….
AJMO
Your exactly right the training of the dogs is critical, and I do not doubt it.
What i articulated very poorly, is that if there were 7 positive alerts, and we are assuming they are referring to this exact location, that I feel strongly that something is there.
In general, arson and carcinogen (bomb making materials, as an example) k9′s do not do “double duty”, they specialize in one or the other.
B
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20529406,00.html
Josh is in an article in the latest iissue of People Magazine. Mainly about what a loving father he is, and how he does not know where Susan is.
#15 – MJ I also was curious about a blowtorch. That could explain the “chapped” skin. I would assume a blowtorch would be able to nearly make a body evaporate? Would the wood show any indication if a blowtorch was used? Jeezie, all these cases are just so sick and sad. All of these poor little children left without a Mom and many times left in the care of the person responsible for her death. God bless us all.
No, a blowtorch would not even be hot enough, or last long enough to do more than char a corpse.
Outside of incineration conditions, it is almost impossible to completely incinerate a person without leaving significant collaterall evidence. A novice, no way.
B
Oh Mary…..please don’t tell me about him being praised for being a loving father. Really, that makes me want to puke. Innocent until proven guilty and all that shyte..the guy is the one that made Susan disappear by himself or with his wacked out father’s help.
There is an epidemic in our country that journalists either don’t research things or they do and see the interest in readership by way of controversy…is there no integrity anymore? killers, killers parents and POI’s are not celebrities. They don’t deserve life stories or human interest spots…they’re barely human.
So if no body is there yet the small charred wood chips show “some type of human decomposition on them because that’s what the dogs are hitting on,” West Valley City Lt. Bill Merritt said “, perhaps the body was not fully burned which allowed the decompostion to seep into the wood after the fire. The body would then have had to be taken by animal or human after that.
Trying again with modified link….
Because I think that much of what the police have been doing and saying lately is to get some kind of reaction out of Josh and/or Steve Powell, I found this statement in this article meaningful:
“Undeterred by their failure to find any tangible sign of missing West Valley City mother Susan Powell during seven days of searching, police vowed Sunday to continue their efforts in the desert near Delta, but said they were contemplating a two-day break so officers can spend time with their families.”
It’s like an open invitation to Josh: We will be leaving the area for two days-have at it!
I actually laughed out loud and said to myself, “I wonder when they make the announcement, of exactly which two days they are vacating the area, if Josh and his Daddy will make a beeline there?” I bet there are some hidden cameras mounted around the area to catch just this kind of hoped for behavior!
Add http in front of link!
://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/52604453-78/police-powell-susan-searchers.html.csp
A blowtorch requires fuel of some sort. In order of heat are napatha (lighter fluid) Kerosene, gasoline, butane, propane and actelyene.
The last two have enough BTUs to weld steel. Propane is available at many places.
Remember the case of the pregnant Marine that was killed in North Carolina. Her body was placed in the bottom of a fire pit that burned for several hours. The remains were not totally reduced.
Davis.
That “marine” as if any would call him one of their own, yielded an interrogation I am bound not to disclose.
If I did, it would help hone the current activity, KWIM?
B
I wonder if any of the charred wood could turn out to be bone fragments. The reason I mention it is we had a fire on our property about 6 weeks ago, and I found my dogs chewing on what I thought was a burned piece of wood. When I picked it up and looked closer I realized it was a bone.
Of course, these searchers are way more trained about those sorts of things.
If this nut job of a husband and father dumped her in this location they are searching, I would think he HAD to have the grave pre-dug. How would he dig in such cold temperatures with the ground being frozen? Of course, he could have used a blow torch or fire to warm the ground up, but still…
Also, even though dads can be adventurous, I have a hard time believing Susan would just accept her husband taking tiny children out in the cold and dark like that. My husband loves the cold and camping, but no way would he do something like that.
Blink,
I again had a post vanish. This one showed as in moderation last night, but is gone this morning. Is there a problem with including links in comments. I notice that some other posters have been modifying links; is that necessary now?
Please advise us all on this.
Thanks,
lizzy
No lizzy, it’s here.
I will do a double-check, but recently we modified our settings to allow for more linkage, not less, up to 5, iirc are fine without being flagged for spam (has to do with why y’all aren’t seeing viagra or adult diaper or porn posts all day long, lol.)
If you want to do a test, I will be on for a while this morning. As always, thanks for calling it to my attention.
B
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/52604453-75/powell-police-susan-search.html.csp#disqus_thread
I had posted this link, but it is outdated by posts by others since.
The cadaver dogs don’t hit on the site since the wood chips were removed.
Interesting that LE gives such optimistic reports of progress yet, similar to the NV search being “successful” despite no finds. I just don’t have a feeling at all as to the LE approach on this. And why the energy into searches NOW.
okey dokey, I looked all around, and see who I found!
Here is my highly technical opinion: Your correct. I believe if you post the link first, askimet kicks it to spam.
Once that happens, your next post, which also had a link, was “read” by askimet because of that, and kicked to spam, as opposed to the others, which went to the regular pending file.
It looks like once I cleared spam from prior to your recent posts, your fine, so it does not accumulate, if that makes sense.
So I think the moral of the story here, which you so keenly figured out before I, lol, is not to eat spam-
Kidding, it appears we cannot start a post with a link, without text at the beginning because our filter acts like on-line lipitor to the spam. I sincerely appreciate you taking the time to help me figure this out.
ps. A disclosure: My Daddy eats SPAM single serving sandwiches. Sigh.
B
Blink,
After the post at 7:45 am, I posted another with a link.
The 7:45 am post appears in moderation. The one shortly thereafter with a link plus my comments has vanished. Sometimes my posts with links appear in moderation and then vanish. Sometimes they vanish immediately. The “immediately” seems to happen if the post begins with the link as my last missing post did.
I’m going to try another with the post further down in the text now.
got this, and was in the normal pending file, fyi
B
Again, this is a test post with the link, although my comments are still current, others have pointed out this article.
I find it interesting the LE still gives out “positive” statements about progress, much as they did after the “successful” NV mine shaft search with no finds. I just don’t understand the LE approach for the search, nor why so much search energy at this time.
Here is the link stating that the dogs no longer hit on the site since the wood chips were removed:
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/52604453-75/powell-police-susan-search.html.csp#disqus_thread
I GOTCHA!!!!! Yay! See my other comment on your post with the “link first”, I do believe that is the issue.
B
Blink,
The post with the link after the text also vanished immediately. But the one last night with the link in the middle of the text did appear in moderation at least momentarily. I logged off right after, so don’t know how long it was there.
So, I conclude that your system is deleting posts with links, or at least some links. Clearly others have deduced the same, with many now modifying the links, or taking off the http, etc., as zeus did at 6:51 pm yesterday. I’ve lost a number of posts this way recently, and I gather that I’m not alone.
Thought you should know before someone again concludes that they are being censored!
lizzy
I was out of town all weekend, and could only moderate from my droid, which will only load a number of posts at a time, I am wondering if that is not the issue, looking into it, thanks again.
B
@Wildflower
Reporter: So where did you go that night?
Josh: To the Pony Express…
Reporter: So, do they have campgrounds there?
Josh: I dont know…I think so…
em…duffus head, YOU DONT KNOW IF THERE ARE CAMPGROUNDS but you took the kids CAMPING?
Yeah, everybody I know gets up in the middle of the night (midnight), in the freezing weather, loads two sleeping kids in the SUV/Van, and waits til morning to eat smores. Wow! That’s a great time! lol
I dont understand either why LE couldnt talk to him. He gets confused so easily…all they had to do was throw questions at him one after the other and then tell him he was mixing things up “first you said this, then you said that…which is it Josh?” He would have confessed right there.
Susan is gone and hopefully in a better place. But those kids have been living with him for how long?
ROTFL
Please quit using my post to tie into your hate.
FYI- When I made the comment “excellent police work” they had just broken news that human remains had been found, which still is the title of this post. That qualifies as excellent police work to me at that time.
I see LE and volunteers very dedicated to finding her and applaud their efforts.
I don’t have time to update my post as info comes out, sorry with working a job and raising a family I am busy. If I did, I would still not berate LE. I hope and pray that the truth comes out soon.
Yes Blink in your reply to my #36 post.
That base commander and the entire chain of command are very lucky that I was not their boss. Some would have been placed in Levenworth and others busted to private first class. A military command that will not protect its troops should not be allowed to exist.
Hey! Spam is ok if you don’t have to eat it every day.
So, Wildfire…I wasnt using your post as ‘hate’ Sometimes I dont like things in writing that depersonalize what you are trying to say. Others cannot see the facial expressions or hear the tones in which something is written.
What I was doing is using something you said and responding to YOU “News reporters including Chris Jones had to completely back off [read: jam on the frickin brakes]in interviews with foam peanut (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCXDpQEfZm8)because they had him ready to confess and they suddenly became aware that they could potentially damage the case by continuing.”
I was ‘agreeing’ that the reporter had him close with his interview…where the guy says he went camping at a specific location, then the reporter said ” do they have camping at that site?” and he answered “I think so”.
The next thing I said was “I dont understand why LE couldnt get a confession out of him…it seemed to me that he was already confused about his own story…he acted that way when the reporter questioned him. He quickly got scared and ran away. So it ‘seemed’ likely to me that if the LE had continued, he would easily have gotten so nervous and confused that he would have confessed.
Hard for me to understand why someone gets so defensive over another person who is thinking and questioning why LE couldnt get a confession; especially when a reporter seemed to get so close so quickly. Quickly enough that the reporter had to back away before ruining it for LE.
My comment made perfect sense to me. It wasnt hate. Im not a hateful person. So, let me apologize if that is how you perceived it.
In the future I will say what i have to say without responding “to” anyone. Deal?
Hang On, unless I missed it, and if I did not Wildfire owes you an apology, she was responding to Joeamerica, not you. In the future I would request wildfire snippet the comment she is responding to as well.
B
Sounds like JP, or his dad, could have burned the body in an another location then picked up the burned chips and buried them in the small grave, therefore the hit by the dogs.