Lisa Irwin Missing: Cell Phone Call Made From Mom’s Phone At 2:30 AM, Taco Quotes Donald Trump, Kids Under Subpoena
Kansas City, MO- In what appears to be the latest revelation of contradictory information coming from the parents of Lisa Irwin, directly- there WAS a call made from Bradley’s cell phone at 2:30 am the morning of Lisa’s disappearance October 4, 2011.
Megan Wright, apparently ready for the breakfast Halloween mixer or the Strawberry Shortcake weekend reunion, was caught outside her home by surprise yesterday.
Ms. Wright was interviewed by Kansas City Police detectives at least four times, and states that she does not know Deborah or the Irwin family and was only “through the neighborhood” with her ex-boyfriend. It would seem that the former suiter in question has Ms. Juggalette changing her Facebook status from “it’s complicated” to single.
Ms. Wright does not know who called her phone and had a 50 second conversation with whomever called from Deborah Bradley’s phone, but she certainly did not say it was stolen, and to my knowledge detectives do not need to interview folks four times if they have no information.
The cell phone call occurs almost to the minute of the dumpster fire a few blocks from the Irwin residence on NE 37th St.
Sources inside the investigation have confirmed to www.blinkoncrime.com that Wright has an association with an extended member of the family, but to their knowledge has never met Deborah, Jeremy, or the couples children.
Ms. Wright’s clown family can be found here.
“YOUR FIRED”
In the words of our affectionately dubbed, double-thatch comb over king, Donald Trump, Joe Tacopina, attorney for Deborah Bradley and Jeremy Irwin gave Cynthia Short her walking papers.
Citing exhaustion, Ms. Short, before coming up short last night, cancelled a media tour and press conference at the Irwin home at 3620 N. Lister Ave yesterday morning.
Taco then cancelled the interviews of the two young boys scheduled to meet with a pediatric specialist to answer questions about the night Lisa went missing. Although Bradley and Irwin’s original story was that one of the children was in bed with her, it has changed to include both boys sleeping in the couple’s bed.
To further complicate matters, Tacopina in a conversation with Judge Jeanine Pirro announced that he had retained the world’s foremost expert on cadaver canines, and was told that a dog trained to alert on human decomposition will also alert on human feces.
Where are Bones and Gerus when you need them, I opine..
What is not clear, is how Taco is practicing law in Missouri in the first place. He is not currently licsened in the state of Missouri so he would have to be operating via an approved pro hac vice order of a local member of the state’s bar.
Let’s hope he gets up to speed quickly, as he is about to run into a learning curve in the road.
www.blinkoncrime.com has learned that although Taco et al has reported that Bradley and Irwin have consented to allow the children to be interviewed after declining for weeks, they had little choice.
While not subject to public disclosure, it is believed the children are the subject of an investigative subpoena.
Missouri is a unique state in this regard, as it has the power to use this investigative tool in lieu of an actual grand jury if the state sees fit, and has little drawbacks- including the fact that it allows the prosecution to compel witnesses and evidence prior to filing any charges, and in some cases, prior to seeking an indictment.
Taco says he will call police next week to reschedule the children’s appointment for an interview, and buccal swabs.
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nana2 (@nana_41) says: November 12, 2011 at 7:05 am
OK the world’s gone money crazy Time magazine has C on their list for possible Person Of The Year. Twitter going a little crazy this morning over this one..
http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,2098471_2098472_2098518,00.html?xid=poywalk-tweet
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Blink, there are real cases and far more important issues than dealing with this. I will tell you in all honesty, my criticism was intended as constructive. I simply have a hard time discerning what you are saying, not knowing what is your humor and what is part of the actual story. We all have a story which affects the manner in which we read into another’s words. You did misinterpret my intention and yes, I was offended at your response as I am 43, middle class, and I don’t generally have such exchanges with others. I prefer to agree to disagree in a repectful manner.
@Mynamehere….. Chill ( a bit)… I too an educated, intelligent and initially had the same reaction to Blink, you do.
It is her blog.. I have become accustom to knowing if I post something she doesn’t agree with, getting my head bitten off … Just let it roll off your back it is( usually) worth the rest of the reads. you wont win any banter on the topic!
Taking into consideration that a call was allegedly placed from a Bradley phone to Megan’s at 11:57pm and :
* both Megan and Dane were at the flophouse at that time, as were others
* another flophouse resident claims to have seen a panicked Dane on the phone (or “a” phone) when they arose from bed at midnight
* Megan claims she got her phone back somewhere between 11:30 and midnight, with its entire history erased
Couple of things.
Megan made this claim BEFORE details of the phone records with the 11:57pm call were made public (by the defense team). She also allegedly “relocated” to Springville just before the release of the phone records and has not been back on her Q & A facebook page accordingly as well.
Dane has allegedly “disappeared”.
Blink, yøur thoughts on who made the 11:57pm call and who answered it?
TIA
I can interpret that 2 ways . . .
xoxo’s
I would like to know more about the neighbor Shane and if he could know the mysterious Dane. Look at Shane’s timeline in this story.http://www.examiner.com/crime-in-national/male-neighbor-says-he-smoked-with-baby-lisa-s-mom-on-night-girl-vanished.html.Maybe a call was also made at 8:30pm from lisa’s phone to Dane for some drugs. He came back and talked to samantha brando on deborah’s porch. but where was samantha’s daughter? I read on aol that she was watching tv with deborah’s kids until deb passed out. Deborah and shane could have done drugs together after samantha leaves the scene. The baby had a cold.She would be easy to snuff out. Maybe she started crying just as deb and shane sat down to snort some snow or whatever. Maybe she went bizerko and choked baby lisa then told shane she found her kid dead and it all played out from there. Maybe deb woke phillip up in destress and out of loyalty to his sister helped her.Remember, he found his mom dead on his birthday and deb became his mother hen. Remember deb got kicked out of hazel’s because they couldn’t honor hazel’s rule of no sleeping together.Here’s another link. http:/kansacity.com/2011/11/05/3250061/from-mother-hen-to-media-villain.html. Sorry about the lower case. P.S. I’m from Portland Oregon and things do not look good for Sky Metalwala.Poor Little Soul. I know I can’t say the C-word here, but the mother Julia has that same manic look in her eyes and smile.
This was in response to someone asking Megan how long she had her “current” cell phone number, on “Megan Wright: Q & A, Baby Lisa”:
Megan Wright: Q & A, Baby Lisa—-I had it for 3 or 4 months prior to this happening.
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The reason I noticed it is that Bill Stanton said during an interview that LE has the Bradley/Irwin cell phone records now. He said, according to his “source”, that Megan’s number had not been called or received by the Bradley/Irwin family in the past year.
So my question would be: Is Stanton referring only to Megan’s “current” cell number-or to any other cell number Megan may have had over the past year?
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Add http in front of link:
://www.facebook.com/pages/Megan-Wright-Q-A-Baby-Lisa/157096327722971?sk=wall
So MW has resumed answering questions, including a question on a post she made to her FB on October 4 at 1:36AM
– - – it appears, imo, that MW has learned of the Bradley phone record and the 11:57pm October 3rd call to her phone . . .
(questiom)
megan how did you get on the internet at 1.36am if you did not have your phone it said you were on a mobile thanks
(answer)
Megan Wright: Q & A, Baby Lisa
I have said from the beginning that I got my phone back around 11:30 to midnight. That was just a best guess. It must have been closer to 1:30. Without my phone, I lose track of time because it’s the only thing I had to monitor time with. I’ve told the investigators from day one that my time frames were a best guess, not concrete.
about an hour ago
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Megan-Wright-Q-A-Baby-Lisa/157096327722971
Mary,
I was just going to post this before refreshing the page and seeing your post:
I watched again the fox4c video with footage from earlier in the day of October 4.
The senior lady with the baseball cap interviewed sitting in front of her own home is ID’d as Beagley, who would be the grandmother of Shane and who’s house, 2 doors down from Irwin’s and right next to SB and JB’s house, is where Shane recently moved in to.
Shown seated first on SB’s stoop with only mid to lower body visible and then again seated next to SB is (99% sure) Shane (not SB’s husband as I originally thought but couldn’t understand the change in hair color/style or how he made it from his work shift so quickly – - recently realized it was because it was Shane, not JB . . . duh on me).
Anyways, Shane wearing sunglasses and SB looking a bit worse for wear (imo) can be seen when a male in a bright blue t-shirt shows the reporter Baby Lisa’s kidnapped flyer (from what I can tell, this man looks very much like DB’s other brother).
Interesting that the reporter says of the family members and friends who had gathered in front of SB’s home next door to Irwin’s: “at the request of Lisa’ parents they did not speak with us”.
video link: replace DOTCOM with .com (add www. before per usual)
fox4kcDOTCOM/2011/10/04/neighbors-concerned-by-babys-disappearance/
ps
If you get a loud buzzing sound on the video, a page refresh/reload will take care of it
With all due respect to everyone:
Anyone remember the name Richard Ricci?
He’s the man police (and many across the nation including myself) believed was involved in the kidnapping of Elizabeth Smart. He was a shady character at best, but he died wrongly accused. I would encourage everyone to take a step back and read the entire article below or google his name and do your own research.
http://nstarzone.com/RICCI.html
The person or persons involved in taking Baby Lisa are who they are. Having a connection to Deborah’s phone is not evidence that Megan Wright knows more than she has told the police. I don’t agree with her lifestyle, but it doesn’t convince me either way. I admit there is so much suspicion surrounding a number of people that seem to have a connection to Deborah and Jeremy, and Megan certainly talked way too much to the media, but if she knows more than she’s told the police, let them figure it out and arrest her. The focus should continue to be on Deborah and Jeremy.
http://nstarzone.com/RICCI.html
Thank You WPG.
Mary,
You’re welcome.
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everyone’s a suspect,
fwiw, I believe the focus is still where it should be, but roads need to be traveled that will lead back to little Lisa’s home. JMO.
new article today . . .
Headline:
“Police want to talk with new witness in Baby Lisa mystery phone case”
(snip)
“Kansas City Police say they can’t find, but want to talk to a new witness that surfaced regarding the mystery phone calls made from one of the missing phones at the home of Baby Lisa.
The man police want to talk with had custody of the phone that received the mystery call the night Baby Lisa disappeared, according to Megan Wright, the phone’s owner.”
(snip)
“”We’d like to talk to him. He’s not a suspect, just another person we believe might have some information we can use,” said Kansas City Police Capt. Steven Young. “Nothing more, or different from the long list of people we’ve spoken to.”
Young declined to identify the man by name.”
http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/news/local_news/investigations/police-want-to-talk-with-new-witness-in-baby-lisa-mystery-phone-case
This just fries me . . . marine cousin wants info from Spellman on Dane:
MikeLeRette FindBabyLisa.com
“@jimspellmancnn: @CaseSignal last week they had nothing to say about Dane.” Thanks for ur work here Jim. Need more info on Dane. DM plz
14 Nov
jimspellmancnn jim spellman
@MikeLeRette @CaseSignal Hi mike…i just followed you. I think you need to follow me to DM or email anytime jim.spellman@cnn.com
7 hours ago
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This person is asking Spellman a good question regarding cousin, imo:
IrideTinMan Brooke
@jimspellmancnn why does Mike reddick want you to dm about Dane?
Shouldn’t that be police stuff? Yes no?
8 hours ago
jimspellmancnn jim spellman
@IrideTinMan sorry…who is muke reddick…where are you seeing that?
8 hours ago
@IrideTinMan Brooke
@jimspellmancnn I said it right the first time
https://twitter.com/#!/jimspellmancnn
Blink – This is just too close for comfort don’t you think? St. Louis? Eeerily similar from this single report.
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2011/11/15/missing_toddler_found_dead_in_st_louis_suburb/
Please report if you think there is any link to these two cases.
Thanks for all you do.
I do not think they are linked, but I could not say the “missing from the crib” concept is unique.
God Bless this sweet child Tyler, in your arms today.
B
Is this a copycat?
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/11/15/dead-child-found-in-st-louis-suburb-near-cemetery/?intcmp=trending
Another sad story of a sweet little baby going missing and found deceased. Story very similar to that of baby Lisa.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/11/15/dead-child-found-in-st-louis-suburb-near-cemetery/?test=latestnews?test=latestnews
His mother Shelby has been arrested for his murder this morning.
B
Hi Blink
do you know why John Tankos court docket # was changed and why its not visible to the public? Do you have any idea of whats going on?
Thank you
Why, why, why?
Tears for Tyler Dasher and his suffering. Unbearable.
To this dear sweet child, rest in heavenly peace.
His mother Shelby has been arrested for his murder this morning.
B
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WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE???? PUT THE BABY DOWN AND WALK AWAY. IT’S NOT ROCKET SCIENCE.
kctv5 news says sources tell them Dane Diggler has returned to KC.
Thanks to Casey , these women think its ok to kill your child and dump them in the woods. God help all the children!
Mary- you cannot make a post like that, most especially of someone that has been cleared by LE. Not here.
B
Sorry to say, but imo the credibility factor of the defense team and their clients hasn’t been there from the beginning.
Even sorrier to say that this is reminding me of the c-word and those defense “tactics”.
Mind you, “tactics” is way too soft of a word to use . . .
OFGS.
Who the flippin’ heck do BillS and JoeP think they are pulling this crap at the expense of a missing baby?
headline:
“$300 Baby Lisa kidnap rumor denied by teen who supposedly implicated handyman in disappearance”
(snip)
Kansas City attorney John Picerno responded to our e-mail inquiry saying, “I’m on vacation out of town.”
Private investigator Bill Stanton said he had not spoken to the witness himself, and wasn’t sure whether the Irwin legal team had interviewed the teen.
“Well, they might have, they may have,” Stanton said. “I’m not sure, but then again. It’s the press that makes the headlines.”
“Until there’s further investigation, I’m going to take him at his word,” Stanton said. “I met his alleged girlfriend and she and her mother were giving this information. While it’s interesting, it may be people who are over zealous.”
Read more: http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/news/local_news/investigations/$300-baby-lisa-kidnap-rumor-denied-by-teen-who-supposedly-implicated-handyman-in-disappearance#ixzz1eDebGZ5W
How flippin’ transparent and full of IT are these guys ????
So sickened and so angry.
Enough is enough.
WHERE IS THE BABY ????
Regarding the cell phones, I don’t recall any official confirmation the phone that DB’s grandfather, DNsr., gave to her on Sunday, October 2 when they were at his home to celebrate JI’s son’s birthday :
* actually had it’s service transferred by DB to her service/account that the bill had not been paid on
* had it’s own records (in the name of DVsr.) checked by LE
There has been no official confirmation that DB’s phone did indeed have alleged “mechanical problems” with it’s speakers, etc., which is the alleged reason for her grandfather giving her his phone or one of his phones. While LE would need the actual phones, I suppose, to confirm, perhaps the usage/frequency of the alleged mechanically-challenged phone per service records may indicate something.
Also those who received calls and/or voice messages from DB may be able to perhaps corroborate or dispell hearing any said mechanical problems.
DB/JI did not or could not pay the phone bill.
IDK if she’s the type to squeeze what one can out of “the system(s)” including a phone company where one has been redlined or squeeze a grandparent out of one of their phones by lamenting their own phone is “not working properly” rather than admitting their phone isn’t working because they didn’t pay their bill. I just don’t know.
DB’s “team” has talked only sparingly about HER phone record and in a spinning kind of way.
IDK, too, the relationship between JI and his parents or if it’s even relevant. However it does strike a little odd that JI’s son’s birthday was celebrated at DB’s grandfather’s place, especially when recalling that JI’s father told a reporter after they (he and his wife) arrived at the scene October 4 and stood OUTSIDE the crime-scene tape for a while looking on, that they didn’t know about Lisa going missing until THEY SAW THE AMBER ALERT.
Appears JI did not call his own parents to personally tell them about Lisa. Very odd.
I have been following this case from the beginning and still feel unsure where the cell phone bill info came from. I have always thought that there were 3 cell phones, one for JI, one for DB and one as a replacement for DB’s (from her father). It was my understanding that DB’s had a mechanical malfunction and did not work but, both JI’s and the replacement did. If the cell phone bill info only came from DB’s mouth then I am hesitant to believe it anyway. I figured it was something of a theory on why the parents didn’t call 911 immediately from the media and the “spin” team ran with it.
And, on the subject of cell phones, IIRC, JI stated that he couldn’t call DB to let her know he would be late b/c he had left his cell at home – what about the work cell he obviously had access to? And, why not the Starbucks phone. Seriously, if my husband was running 1 hour late with no word to let me know he was still working (let alone 5 hours) I would be so worried I would be calling all over town!!!
WPG, I agree that it is odd that Jeremy didn’t notify his own parents directly and immediately following Lisa’s disappearance.
When reading previous articles, it initially struck me as odd that the couple didn’t notify Debbie’s ex-mother-in-law. While they no longer have a relationship, it seems, this woman acted as a motherly figure to Debbie since her teens. They were at one time close to one another.
http://www.kansascity.com/2011/11/05/3250061/from-mother-hen-to-media-villain.html
I am also curious to know how, when, and by whom Deborah’s father was notified of Lisa’s disappearance. Haven’t been able to find anything about that though.
And since we’re on the topic of JI…
Why there has been no real information revealed about Jeremy Irwin– no statements made by family or friends, and no statements about his personality, character, childhood, interests, etc?
There was a long, revealing article about Debbie, disussing the loss of her mother, her mother’s alcoholism, her devotion to her children, etc. I would like to know such things about Jeremy’s childhood and past too. Perhaps this information would help in understanding his actions–why he has not questioned the possibility of Debbie’s involvement, why the disappearance of his daughter created a “bonding” experience for he and Debbie, and also why he has what seems like a strained or distant relationship with his parents.
Here is an article and a website which discuss the characteristics of adult children of alcoholics and how this could shed light on Debbie’s actions, etc. I wonder if any of these characteristics can be found in JI?
http://news.yahoo.com/missing-baby-lisa-mom-debbie-bradley-enigma-even-200600618.html
http://www.drjan.com/13char.html
Also, why does it seem like no friends have stepped forward or even been seen in the background of this whole terrible saga? Have I missed the showing of support by friends of the couple? Are their friends shy? Distancing themselves from the couple? Are there not many friends to begin with? What is the social circumstances in which these people are operating?
BlackPearl says:
November 22, 2011 at 10:33 am
Also, why does it seem like no friends have stepped forward or even been seen in the background of this whole terrible saga? Have I missed the showing of support by friends of the couple? Are their friends shy? Distancing themselves from the couple? Are there not many friends to begin with? What is the social circumstances in which these people are operating?
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BlackPearl, I wonder those things, too. Could it be that since the mother is still married, and the parents are not married but living together, people have no respect for them? Just a wild guess.
Of course, none of that matters when a baby or child is missing. You find the child, regardless of your opinion of the parents.
Anyone on here from the area? What is the general feeling in the town?
There is a psychic that is gaining some attention who believes she knows where Lisa’s body is hidden. Her name is Stephanie Almaguer and she has a gmail blogger where she is documenting her visions. I guess the reason, in part, that she is being taken very seriously is because she accurately predicated the location where Morgan Harrington was found well before she was discovered. I don’t know how much stock you put into psychics (I am a born skeptic) but this one has me at least curious. Just thought I’d pass it along.
Blink, FYI, I found the site where Jim Spellman talks about James Brando and he has never been cleared. Here’s the link. Read entries 3,4,and 5. Scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=12266.820. Also KCPD spokesperson Young has said “no one has been cleared”. Good Luck.
M, I am also skeptical, but the same psychic has posted that the police are conducting a search tonight, based upon two women checking out the site and smelling a foul odor. I guess whether or not you believe in this, any search of the area within a few miles of the Irwin home could be helpful.
Respectfully, I am so not posting a link to someone that uses a blog to request donations or get paid readings.
B
M says:
November 24, 2011 at 2:06 pm
There is a psychic that is gaining some attention who believes she knows where Lisa’s body is hidden. Her name is Stephanie Almaguer and she has a gmail blogger where she is documenting her visions. I guess the reason, in part, that she is being taken very seriously is because she accurately predicated the location where Morgan Harrington was found well before she was discovered. I don’t know how much stock you put into psychics (I am a born skeptic) but this one has me at least curious. Just thought I’d pass it along.
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I read that as well. It makes me curious, too. While I do not put a ton of stock in psychics, I personally believe strongly that God can work in many ways through many types of people. If a psychic truly believes she had something revealed to her somehow that is helpful to a case, then I say it may be worth it to check it out. Obviously, psychics have spoken on many cases and been incorrect, but I personally see God guiding people all the time. Just my opinion.
Ready to focus on LE’ method & approach:
http://www.kansascity.com/2011/11/22/3281893/kc-police-disband-baby-lisa-command.html
I don’t understand how all these “disappearances” get away: Horman, Swift, Irwin, Bobo, etc.
I thought that Dragnet always triumphs.
35. Rose says:
November 25, 2011 at 8:26 pm
Ready to focus on LE’ method & approach:
http://www.kansascity.com/2011/11/22/3281893/kc-police-disband-baby-lisa-command.html
I don’t understand how all these “disappearances” get away: Horman, Swift, Irwin, Bobo, etc.
I thought that Dragnet always triumphs.
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EXACTLY MY THOUGHTS AS WELL!
And, sick aboutt he message it sends out to other sickos!
Blink, you have said,
from above article:
“Sources inside the investigation have confirmed to http://www.blinkoncrime.com that Wright has an association with an extended member of the family, but to their knowledge has never met Deborah, Jeremy, or the couples children.”
and
in response to GeorgiaDad, October 30, 2011 at 7:31 am:
“To my knowledge Megan Wright Skittles is not related to anyone in the family, associated with an extended member, yes, but that is not known to be relevant at this time I am aware of.
That said, that friend pool is some kinda “off”.
B”
http://blinkoncrime.com/2011/10/28/lisa-irwin-missing-cell-phone-call-made-from-moms-phone-at-230-am-taco-quotes-donald-trump-kids-under-subpoena/comment-page-2/#comments
Blink, since your above comments from a month ago, has MW’s association with an extended family member become relevant?
TIA.
new article with video
(argghhh . . . remove dashes between f-o-x to get the proper link/address)
“Custody Battle for Jeremy Irwin’s Son Moves Forward”
f-o-x4kc.com/2011/11/28/custody-battle-for-jeremy-irwins-son-moves-forward/
Towards the end of the video the reporter says:
“As for the investigation into Lisa Irwin’s disappearance, Jeremy Irwin’s attorney said several Irwin family members got phone calls last week from KCMO Police saying they’d like to meet with all the COOPERATING MEMBERS OF LISA’S FAMILY to give them an update on the case.
Deborah Bradley and Jeremy Irwin were not included in the list of so-called cooperating family members since they declined another interview, their lawyer says.”
Very interesting . . . imo.
Not a facebook member but have been able to follow/read at this open site:
http://www.facebook.com/LisaIrwinUpdates?sk=wall&filter=1
A discussion on JI’s late-night work at Starbucks and Starbucks business hours is taking place . . . a poster made this comment (left the poster’s name off ’cause I don’t know if it’s ok to post, so just used initials):
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[TG]: Jeremy working overnight at Starbucks is normal, they can’t work on the electrical system when the store is open. I’d assume they had to shut the power off.
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That’s a thought about “no power”. Wondering now about any info that’s been “out there” regarding JI being on surveillance video at Starbucks for LE to verify he was there the entire time. How would the cameras operate if indeed power was shut off? Perhaps a separate circuit breaker, but who knows. Hmmmm.
Is it at all possible JI went home to do a check, found his little girl who was visibly beyond medical help, DB passed out and has not told her(DB)?
LE never poly’d JI from what I recall.
That’s weird. Why did I have to re-register here?
Did you apply for a new quilt? lol, teasing, look at your sign in closely, that’s why
B
Ha, ha!
Do love this new color square, though . . . invigorates. 
Forgot I had a provider connection problem/fix earlier which would have made me unrecognizable to the BOC-tech.
(purposedly entered lowercase when re-registering . . . needed a change)
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Argghhh. Where is this little baby ????
Uncle Johnny (DB’s late mother’s brother) has been posting about the generational substance abuse in his family and his belief this is the cause for an accident that took his infant great-niece, Lisa.
No link available to read all his comments – - he eventually deletes his postings on the Lisa Irwin Updates facebook page.
wpg says:
December 1, 2011 at 5:48 pm
[TG]: Jeremy working overnight at Starbucks is normal, they can’t work on the electrical system when the store is open. I’d assume they had to shut the power off.
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That’s a thought about “no power”.
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My guess is that they were able to verify with co-workers and supervisors that he was at work. Also, the surveillance video could have him present at the store before the power was turned off, if indeed it was. JMO
Oops, forgot to add the link…
http://www.newschannel9.com/articles/disappearance-1006947-palmgren-missing.html
I have a few thoughts on this case princessbeth, let me ruminate a bit.
B
Dang it!! That link was supposed to be under my previous comment that I left on the top thread about PSU…durhhh…sorry!
For what purpose?
B
Strange, was just thinking about this relative last night and how nothing has publicly come from her regarding little Lisa
(she’s the mother of cousin Mike, aunt of DB, sister of DB’s late mother, sister of Johnny)
She has just posted on fb:
Cindy Chivalette LeRette
“Have we forgotten what is important here? Baby Lisa is STILL MISSING.
Somewhere out there…somewhere she doesn’t belong.
She is safe, smiling, happy and giggling.
Someone is LOVING HER.
Someone knows something.
She can be ANYWHERE.
FOCUS – PLEASE. There is a $100,00 reward – it doesn’t matter where it came from – It’s there, $100 thousand dollars !
Please HELP BRING HER HOME. We MISS her very much. this is so sad. It’s REALLY IMPORTANT…THANK YOU
YES,YES, YES, We are praying – ALWAYS………
***Please help stop the negative, nasty, evil comments. That’s just wrong!”
5 minutes ago
http://www.facebook.com/LisaIrwinUpdates?sk=wall&filter=1
If a gag order has been put in place regarding the child custody case I take it that means the case is proceeding.
While DB and JI are within their “legal” rights not to speak or cooperate with LE at this point (saying that with gritted teeth), this court case has a whole other set of rules and rights, doesn’t it?
Meaning, if called under oath to answer questions put forth by the attorney of the child’s mother RR . . . DB and JI must answer and cooperate, right?
Their actions on October 3rd and 4th will be under scrutiny and considering DB’s statements about her drinking that night (and weekly frquency), the “it’s possible” response when asked if she could have blacked out, her claim of not remembering if she checked on her sick with a cold and cough baby daughter after 6:40pm, etc and so on, how does DB (as a caregiver to all the children in the home) provide answers that are not seen as detrimental?
What I wonder is, if there is a possibility DB would plead the fifth in any aspect of this custody case or if that would even be accepted by the case judge?
Have absolutely no idea the history of the boy’s mother and JI with the previous custody case, and I feel so sad for the little boy, however as the boy’s mother she does have the legal right to question the care and safety of her son in light of the baby’s disappearance from the same home and under the same caregiver(s), so I do support that intention.
fwiw
LaurieO,
Yeah, you’re probably right about JI’s co-workers, etc..
eeeesh, it’s just that LE hasn’t publicly said or even inferred that JI has an alibi – - – only JI has publicly said that:
(snipped from article/interview of October 7)
“The main problem I think that we’re facing is that everybody (else) has an alibi,” Irwin told the AP. “I was at work. I’ve been cleared. All these other people we were worried about … the FBI said they’ve been cleared. The only one you can’t clear is the mother that’s at home when it happens ’cause there’s nobody else there.”
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/44813949/ns/today-today_people/t/mom-missing-tot-cops-said-you-did-it/#.TuaCO0qIudM
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BlackPearl says:
November 22, 2011 at 10:27 am
“When reading previous articles, it initially struck me as odd that the couple didn’t notify Debbie’s ex-mother-in-law. While they no longer have a relationship, it seems, this woman acted as a motherly figure to Debbie since her teens. They were at one time close to one another.”
True, BlackPearl. But then again the mother-in-law, while saying DB was a loving mother, also provided this type of information:
(snipped)
“Debbie talked of getting her G.E.D. and insisted that her youngest brother, Phillip, graduate. But she didn’t go back to school. Instead, she started leaving the house at night, taking Hazel’s truck without asking when the family slept.
“I never knew for sure where she went or what she did,” Hazel said. They had words. Debbie was again asked to leave.
“It’s just immature things,” she says. “I kept thinking she would settle down.”
Read more: http://newsok.com/from-mother-hen-to-media-villain-the-life-of-debbie-bradley/article/feed/314753#ixzz1gMddRH59
At the Updates Facebook page there are comments/discussion that the Irwin grandparents and aunt NEVER MET BABY LISA ????
Blink, can you please confirm one way or the other if this is true?
Thank you.
It would be fair to know the truth (some truth, anyways).
Sigh, watching again this video:
Lisa Irwin’s Grandparents On Nightline
October 17, 2011
http://www.kmbc.com/video/29509905/detail.html
Grandparents said they found out when LE came to their door just before 5am Monday morning (I’m sure they meant Tuesday).
Yet when they showed up at the scene at the N.Lister home the grandfather said they found out when they saw the amber alert.
What the heck?
Yeah . . . so . . . I just went to get the link for the facebook discussion and the entire thread with it’s 107+ comments has been deleted.
????
STOP THE PRESSES.
This online/video report dated today, December 21, and making the rounds is completely misleading.
They are showing 2 side-by-side photos CLAIMING the one on the right is Baby Lisa and the one on the left is the doppleganger Baby Lucy that has been previously reported about.
http://www.39online.com/entertainment/onlinedish/kiah-online-dish-lisa-irwin-doppelganger-story,0,3050542.story
Uh . . . no.
The 2 photos are BOTH BABY LISA. Both have the same grass background.
BOTH PHOTOS, side-by-side just as in the above video were provided by family for an OCTOBER 11 article (imo, the photos were taken when DB’s Aunt CindyL visited):
http://www.examiner.com/missing-persons-in-national/missing-missouri-baby-lisa-irwin-is-her-mother-guilty-or-being-bullied-picture
Don’t know WHAT is going on with the video report, but it is WRONG.
THUD. Seriously? Thanks for posting wpg