Isabel Celis Abduction BREAKING NEWS: Docs Show Blood In Bedroom Police Eye Family AND Neighbor
*LIVE TONIGHT On THE DANA PRETZER SHOW Blink Discusses The Isabel Celis Case*
After 550 plus pages of what amounts to discovery in a likely criminal case, Friday afternoon yielded a window to the world of the investigation of missing 6 year old Isabel Mercedes Celis.
Isa, according to the document release consisting of 6 packets of PDF files of police incident and timesheet reports was last seen by her Father who kissed her goodnight and dimmed her bedroom light after showering and braiding of her hair by her Mother Becky in anticipation of her baseball game the next morning with the Diamondbacks.
Isabel’s baseball Jersey number is #4.
The “goodnight kiss” was the first time the public has heard the actual version in his words containing the account that he was the last person to see Isabel before her disappearance as well as confirm that her window was closed when he closed the door.
Certainly not unexpected to hear a loving father’s tender goodnight detail to his baby girl, but most unexpected was the revelation that on Isabel’s bedroom floor was an obvious area of blood.
While it has not been disclosed whose blood was located on the floor of the southeast middle bedroom located on E 12th St, Sergio and Becky Celis were required to provide blood samples under a warrant obtained a few days later.
The Usual Suspects- FAMILY
It is clear from the released reports that a significant amount of time and effort has been spent on investigation of Sergio Celis and Becky’s brothers Bob Rodriguez and Justin Mastromarino as previously reported on www.blinkoncrime.com Mastromarino’s own niece Chelsea and her fiancée Danny Cline told a shoe salesperson and subsequently investigators that they believe he is a drug dealer and owes someone a great deal of money and Isa was taken for some purpose to satisfy that debt.
A truck owned by Bob Rodriguez was removed by warrant from in front of the Celis home without warning and a towel which tested negative for blood but reacted to luminol was taken into evidence as well as a pocket knife from its contents.
Blood evidence was found in the driver’s seat of the Toyota Corolla mostly driven by Sergio Celis and the red inoperable Acura as well as a stained shower curtain and white hat. Keeping in mind, Tucson PD released some documents that are heavily redacted as they are required via a freedom of information act request, by any standard; the completeness of the response teams and first responders to the scene and the surroundings was swift and MASSIVE.
Exactly one week earlier on April 13th, Sergio Celis received several criminal citations to include dogs running at large, without proper vaccinations and licenses. Celis pled not guilty during an arraignment on April 26th and is due back in court on June 4th.
At the risk of inserting a glib remark in the middle of such a macabre subject matter- Who let The Dogs Out? Who, Who Who?
Who prompted the report to Tucson City Police in the first place? Was someone attempting to have the animals removed from the residence a week earlier?
Do all the dogs belong to the Celis’s or are they housing them for a family member who now lives in an apartment and cannot keep a pet?
Perhaps this is an indication that what looks to be a fortified and nearly impenetrable without detection abode is, well, not so much. In a video of Isabel singing and dancing to an Abba song (undated but presumed recent) it is clear that the living room window, which shares the same outside wall as the window next to it separated by the interior wall Sergio references in his 911 call, is clearly open.
Celis LR Open BOC
On May 11, citing a previous CPS involvement in December of 2011 and “to provide time and distance” between Sergio and his two sons, Sergio Celis voluntarily agreed to a no contact order after a CPS meeting which was instigated by the detectives working on Isabel’s case- due to “information they learned in the course of the investigation” into Isabel’s disappearance.
What prompted the concerns exactly has not been made public and the order remains in effect. Becky Celis and Sergio’s sister refuted any allegations that Mr. Celis was anything but a model dog owner, Father and Husband at a public vigil for Isabel.
No doubt Sergio Celis’s use of the word abducted and his inappropriate lack of hysteria during the 911 call has made him a defacto suspect if only in the minds, thoughts… and blogs of those following Isabel’s case.
It is not the only oddity. During his first interview at the scene with police, Sergio states he is aware of the registered sex offender down the street, he knows him, and he does not believe him to be involved.
Is that a natural response of a parent who has knowledge of the sex offender status of a neighbor when he has just learned his child is missing?
That said, in the interviews of Sergio Celis’s employers who have known him for several years, he was found to be an exemplary employee, model husband and family man whose advice one dental surgeon sought often for his own personal situation.
It is standard protocol for detectives to conduct a parallel investigation of the victims family, in this case where a 6 year old child seemingly disappears from the window of her bedroom sometime between midnight and 6:30AM, with three dogs on the premises, a stranger abduction within the walls of what looks like a mini Alamo replica defies statistics and logic.
Or Does it?
Neighborly Concern
Matching footprints in the soft dirt around a green electric box along the south wall of the Celis home, on the top of the electric box and on a gas meter box – all along on the southeast perimeter of the wall leading to the alley ( S. Jefferson and E. Cooper) were found by a first response mobile team member and described as “wolverine” pattern as opposed to standard police issue work boots.
Alicia Sturdevant, the infamous neighbor lady who heard male voices outside Isabel’s window as well as barking dogs at 6:28 AM the morning of her disappearance, gave that account in her first interview adding to her credibility of a fresh witness account. Someone posting from another neighbor’s face book account belonging to a Chris Pike, an adult child sibling to a playmate of the Celis children seems to think Ms. Sturtevant’s account is untrue, but has not specified why.
By approximately 8:30AM the morning of Saturday April 21, Tucson Police Department has been on scene for several minutes, has completed initial interviews with the family, incident command has been established and officers begin the immediate knock and talk canvases in the hopes of finding Isabel, or information useful to locating her.
They begin next door and proceed door to door, upon reaching the home of Michael Dimitriov, who informs the officer that he is a RSO, one officer is requested to wait there for a detective interview, and requests to search the home and cars.
At approximately 8:40 Officer Bustamonte is greeted at the door by Alicia Gregory. She states she and her boyfriend went to bed at midnight but heard nothing unusual. According to the officer’s notes, he only speaks to Alicia, in fact, he spells her boyfriend’s name phonetically as he heard her say it: Nathan McDonell.
Mr. Nathan McDonald is not at the residence.
Officer Robinson is then directed to go to Freedom Park to continue search efforts for Isabel, as her team was playing the baseball game scheduled for that morning in her absence. Upon arrival, it was learned that only Isabel’s coach had been informed that she was missing during an earlier call from Sergio Celis.
As Robinson is circling back to receive further assignments in continuing efforts to find Isa, he is tasked with keeping track of vehicles leaving the immediate neighborhood of 12th and Van Buren and notes a green Jetta GLS parked to the East of Craycroft on E. 14th St. After running it’s plates to learn it is registered to a Nathan Patrick McDonald, resident of E. 12th St ., the officer informs Sgt. Dana, incident commander. A redacted portion of the conversation appears in the report.
This occurs at 10:15AM. Between 10:15 and 10:35, the officer observes McDonald emerge from the South end of the Wilshire Park field, carrying a large maglite. McDonald crosses through the middle of the field and when he reaches his vehicle, the officer approaches and McDonald confirms that the green Jetta is his vehicle. He tells him he had heard about the missing girl and was out searching tunnels and washes to the north and south where he found nothing.
McDonald “abruptly” informs the officer he must leave to go home to EAT BREAKFAST and leaves the area in his vehicle. BASTA informs ALL radio contact assigned of his exchange with the subject and a call to other officers on duty with orders to record all vehicles, including taking images of all vehicles currently parked on E. 12th st .
By 10:45AM all are instructed to stop, log plate and driver info and request consent search every vehicle coming in or out of the area.
Chris Lutzelberger, a resident of S. Essex St who likely observed the exchange between McDonald and the officer, asked him what all the police presence in the neighborhood was about.
Lutzelberger informed Robinson him that a man matching McDonald’s description was sitting on an electrical box located behind his residence earlier that morning from approximately 9AM-9:30Am at which time he told the individual to leave.
By 11AM, as security was requested by another officer at 11:23AM, a wash no more than 50 yards from where McDonald entered the south end of the park yielded a sheet, bed skirt, and a bag of clothes that were processed at the scene and taken into evidence.
A warrant was secured hours later at the McDonald/Gregory home on E. 12th St. Taken into evidence was a shoeprint on landscaping “fabric” from the backyard. Shoeprints were now collected on 3 other surface areas.
Part II publishes Monday June 4
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@Blink
I listened to the DP show. My gratitude for all the new info and your input. Hope you get some rest tonite.
Ty kindly- was it that obvious, lol? This might be my heaviest schedule personally and professionally in a very long time. Thanks for the kind words.
I want this little cherub found.
B
Excellent sleuthing and reporting Blink!!
Good to see so many of the old Morgan posse here
throwing in their two cents.
Ya had me at hello Blink.
Noe like tar heel gal I am also a many times a.
Sigh what can I say. I do have a life.
But after Morgan Harringtons’ demise my eyes were opened.
Now somehow I feel if I remain connected and conscious of this war on our young women
and children I may be able to help in some way or at least encourage the families of the victims by showing I care and that goes for you too dear Blink.
Armchair detective I may be but in a humble way I learn every time I visit this site and read the intelligent compassionate posts therein ……Such an evil tide like to feel a part of a group that is committed to justice.
Poor little Isa prayers for her innocent little soul.
Heart u Madam, as you know. What a mouthful your kind soul reminded us of.
Namaste.
B
My neighbor’s boy woke me up by frantically ringing my doorbell. He was ringing doorbells, desperately looking for his sister. After conversations that are frankly none of any of your businesses, I decided to leave my house and search the wash that runs through our neighborhood. This decision ultimately brought the SWAT team to my front door, and has now caused this website to draw wild speculations about me. Some police reports are either slightly inaccurate, or vague.
If you people think I was not run through the ringer by the police, you’re fools. And it ended with an apology from them. Thank you all for extending the worst night of my life.
Ultimately, a little girl is missing, and when I first heard that news from my neighbor, on my doorstep, I left my house to find her. While that decision has caused me tremendous stress, it was the right decision and knowing what I know now, I would make it again. I have nothing to defend nor any explanations owed to any of you. It’s to bad that the publisher of this website, having found my Facebook and posted it (classy, very classy) didn’t simply ask me questions via Facebook. I would have possibly been receptive to answering questions. But seeing now the presentation and the nearly libelous accusations made in my direction, I don’t think so.
LaurieO and all-
Very sorry about getting the blood testing wrong on the celis- I thought I remembered that…along with glucose mentioned-
I have been reading everything I can about this case. including the docs- so its possible I was recalling something else written elsewhere, or not remembering correctly hence my IIRC…
Thanks for correcting my mistake Blink
Laurie O- thanks for sharing your thoughts on blood sugar levels etc-
As for the diabetic stuff I was brainstorming off of Twinkletoes thoughts on the possible reasons why NM would need food right away…- I ofcourse dont know the reasons all mere speculation
Thanks again for helping me to clear it up guys
Hope to read part 2 soon
AJMO
Wpg–thanks for posting the proof text from officer Robinson’s report, Not only does it confirm that Lutzel told him the man was sitting one the box *in the alley* but the description of the white
t-shirt with “Car World” on it.
Correct, observed in the alleyway behind his residence, page 17, 18 packet 3.
B
I am losing sleep waiting for part 2… Did I miss it? Help!
No, I adjusted the piece to change the date for today. Thanks for your patience.
B
@wpg, thanks for the google.maps link. I noticed the large double gate on the back southwest corner of the yard (wooden fence). I thought I’d read the only entrace/exit was through the front door/gate at the front facing driveway. In the google link you provided, from a rear angle street view not overhead view, the gate actually looks slightly ajar at the time this image was taken. This gate is large enough to drive a vehicle into the back yard.
Prayers for Isa.
Compliments BLINK- you did what NO ONE else could do- and believe me- I’ve read it ALL! Can NOT wait until part II- Thank you for all your hard work!
Rose says:
May 30, 2012 at 7:14 pm
“question: does the Sturdavent dog-hearer next door have an electrical box in her yard too?
Or is the only way a peeking Tom could watch her thru her bedroom window atop this box in Celis’ adjacent yard?”
Rose,
It looks like the “perch box” at the Celis fence gives a view to all the windows at the back of the house (the master bedroom, the kitchen nook, the patio windows which would have some view of the family room, and the den), but not to Isabel’s side bedroom.
The next-door residence’s “perch box” further down the alley would be obstructed by the “guest house” addition. Various spots along the breezeway would, as we’ve seen, give direct viewing of Isabel’s window.
There is this snippet from a report prepared by LEO Randall of the Forensics Division, packet2, pgs 16,17:
Location 2) Photographs show overall views of a T-Mobile Blackberry cellular phone belonging to Robert Snyder Rodriguez [redacted} with detailed views showing text messages, call logs, and contact information on the phone. Additional photographs show the location of unit [redacted] located east of the victim’s residence. Overall views from the master bedroom looking west through the horizontal blinds, toward the victim’s residence, located at the listed address. Overall views showing a window on the east side of the victim’s residence, where the resident of [redacted] E. 12th Street, Alicia Stardevant [redacted] stated she heard voices on the morning of the incident.
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Rose, if I recall, there are video shots showing to the right of Isa’s window a water faucet, a garden hose container/reel and (interestingly) a small green sit/step stool.
Word Girl and SouthernMom, you’re most welcome. ♥
from Blink’s article:
“Someone posting from another neighbor’s face book account belonging to a Chris Pike, an adult child sibling to a playmate of the Celis children seems to think Ms. Sturtevant’s account is untrue, but has not specified why.”
That’s interesting.
The father David Pike has been on HLN recently via phone, maybe they can have him back to comment on why there is this thinking.
Just a thought….. he may be a drug-runner. Abnormal behavior like that almost always means something is up!
TY wpg. You are reliably detailed. I wondered if the probable Peeping Tom atop electrical box(es) might have been there as the only available perch to watch the young female neighborhood newcomer Sturdavent rather than Isa, and might or might not relate. If I had an electrical box, and lived in the neighborhood, I’d be putting a superglue coating on to catch a shoe , because this behavior is compulsive & will repeat
Where can the documents be found on line? I must have missed the link. Thanks!
@tango
You can find them here
http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/story/18621086/550-pages-released-in-celis-case
@ tango -
wpg says:
May 25, 2012 at 6:54 pm
looks like 6 pdfs were received . . . although I think TucsonNewsNow retitled them – – – because when you open the pdfs they are labeled packet 1, packet 2, etc.. . . .
COMPLETE CELIS DOCUMENTS
Updated: May 25, 2012 4:58 PM CDT
The documents include write-ups from detectives as they responded to tips as well as evidence collected and locations searched throughout the course of the investigation.
http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/
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http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/link/563522/pdf-celis-1-blood-on-seat-testimony-from-neighbor
http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/link/563528/pdf-celis-2-forensics-collected-items-taken-from-home
http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/link/563529/pdf-celis-3-details-on-air-search-boot-prints-found-at-home
http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/link/563532/pdf-celis-4-found-pillow-possible-sightings
http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/link/563536/pdf-celis-5-allegations-of-owed-money-evidence-from-home
http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/link/563539/pdf-celis-6-sandals-found-in-park-dna-from-family
http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/story/18621086/550-pages-released-in-celis-case
When is part II being published?
As often happens in an open investigation I present in more than one part, it generates additional leads or information that must be verified or included in the next release. Let me say I apologize because I am the worst when it comes to forgetting that, and not considering the balance of my caseload as well as my personal family responsibilities. Monday June 4th.
B
Rose
Super glue will dry and not hold a shoe. Just put about an inch of cold roof coating on it with a trowel. That would stop most from getting up on top. In addition, it would capture the tread on any type of shoe. It would also chemically burn the skin of anyone that put their bare body part against it. Worse than “tar baby”. LOL
False Report that Isabel was Found:
http://www.kpho.com/story/18672221/tucson-pd-false-report-of-isabel-found
waa?
No, no record anyone’s glucose was tested, or that anyone is diabetic.
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Thank you for clearing that up, Blink. I simply was going off what Mom3.0 said Ode said. Hope that makes sense.
Mom3.0 says:
May 31, 2012 at 1:32 am
LaurieO and all-
Very sorry about getting the blood testing wrong on the celis- I thought I remembered that…along with glucose mentioned-
I have been reading everything I can about this case. including the docs
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So glad you are, Mom3.0. I wish I had more time to do so. I often think that something that was missed will be found by the average person. No crack on LE, but they must be going nuts trying to find Isabel. It’s good that us commoners can read and maybe help out.
@Blink
Glitter sparkle says:
May 31, 2012 at 9:40 pm
When is part II being published?
As often happens in an open investigation I present in more than one part, it generates additional leads or information that must be verified or included in the next release. Let me say I apologize because I am the worst when it comes to forgetting that, and not considering the balance of my caseload as well as my personal family responsibilities. Monday June 4th.
B
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First things first especially family. Looking forward to your next report. Thanks for the update and know you have the support of your followers.
Looking forward to Monday Blink! Enjoy time with family – it is so precious
Blink–
What is your occupation? You have referred to your “caseload” on several ocassions. Are you a PI? Do you work in the legal field in some capacity?
In that regard, I have begun to wonder why in your recent write-up of the Celis case, you give the impression that you have “insider” information. While I will admit your explanations of the case background and of the documents released by Tucson Police Department are delivered well, you could not possibly have any information that is not already available to the public at large. I guess I’ve just taken some time to realize how ludicrous it would be to consider that you have information the rest of us don’t have!
pueblodweller- I would invite you to read my other coverages. I am an investigative journalist, author, and investigative analyst in private practice. My professional background before that is in advertising, Pharma, PR and Real Estate development.
On many cases, I develop inside sources as you will see if you take the time to review my work. In general, I do not write on any cases I work on as retained. I do not name them, for obvious reasons.
I recall you being new to following cases, so I will not take offense to the ludicrous comment.
That said, if I have private sources, I name them as such, and will not give an interpretable impression.
Thank you for taking the time to ask me. We have been working with development on creating a BIO page.
B
I see my comment has not been posted. It seems bizarre that moderators have decided to post factually inaccurate assumptions by other contributors, but have declined to post the first person account of a participator in events.
I urge the publisher of this website to consider that while 550 documents have been released (of which nearly half look like cover letters), there are very like tens of thousands of documents that are unreleased. Attempting to piecemeal a story based on the amount of information at your fingertips is intellectually dishonest. As a first hand participant in many of the events being discussed on this site and in this article, I can immediately tell that the publisher of this article is lacking a tremendous amount of information.
However, in spite of that lack of information, someone has made the decision to begin dragging my name through the mud, and attempting to associate me with the most heinous act a human can commit, a crime against a child.
I am a person. An innocent person. I am not a character in the game of Clue. As I said before, I have nothing to defend and no explanations to be made. I do however wish to keep uninformed bystanders from slinging dirt upon me. While Blink has mostly only made insinuations, there are also statements of fact that she has made based on documents released, that are incorrect and are misrepresentations of the information contained in those documents. This means she is either lying, or is confused. I’m guessing confused. Either way, the result is the same. Untrue things are being said about me, and the cost on my end is dear.
If you are unwilling to remove the aspersions you’ve cast in my direction, at least correct the incorrect statements of fact you’ve made in both the article and the interview linked.
Could the man that jumped up on the electrial box have been scared of the dogs? This happened at my daughter’s house when we left to go get some food. A friend of her husband who was in national guard doing yard work when we left. When we returned, a two time Iraq veteran had jumped up on his car because my cute little jack russell terrier had pushed the front door open and was charging him showing teeth, growling. I knew he had a mean strick I guess he did not like strange men.
I’d say with Horman & Sandusky cases on the move this weekend & next week, and end of school year events, it’s a wonder you’re as ahead of the news as you are
Ty
Rose.
@ Lauren, lyla and all.
I sincerly appreciate the patience and understanding.
News is never going to be that kind I know.
Hahaha. You people.
I woke up and left my house. I walked a good amount. I was wearing a tank top for most of it and ended up with a sunburn. I was hot, I hadn’t eaten anything, I had no water, and I’d been out for probably 2 hours at that point. Officer Robinson did not approach me. I saw him, approached (he was not the only law enforcement I encountered that morning). I gave him the same report I’d given others, then I told him I was going to have breakfast. I was hungry and tired.
I can see how a man who just walked several miles in the heat on an empty stomach needing breakfast can seem super suspicious. I hope this puts some of that to rest.
Of course, this comment will likely go unposted, along with my other attempts to open discourse and bring reason to this conversation.
Several miles?
Where did you search?
B
Just a FYI…I really was only making a joke when I mentioned the granola bar although they did bag a granola bar into evidence. It came on the heels of why NM may have had to rush home for breakfast and someone jokingly mentioned diabetic.
Blink, waiting for your pieces have never disappointed us. Thank you so much for wanting to get it right. That is why I am here.
@Mr. Mcdonald.
I have not posted your other comments because I have not been able to confirm this is actually “you”. I felt I owed you the courtesy if you wished to speak on your own behalf this is actually you. Because of the location of one of your posts I have reason to believe this may not, but rather someone associated with you.
I am entirely open to you addressing the issues you wish. If you reply mark the top line private, and tell me the location you are posting from, and it will stay only visible to you and I until I delete it. I will confirm it with what I have.
One thing, I only ask you are respectful and not rude to anyone, I don’t do rude here.
Many thanks.
B
I’m not going to give you my address, I’m at work. Given what I’ve seen so far with how information is handled on this sight, I am very uncomfortable offering any more. My other response was at home. Both are in the city of Tucson.
I can appreciate your desire to keep it cordial. You must understand my position. If I were to channel 1/10th of the emotion the false accusations leveled at me elicits, we would be having different conversations.
As well, I feel that the actions taken by this site and the contributors are beyond rude, they are offensive to common courtesy and logic. This is essentially a collection of individuals with very little information stoking the flames of disinformation. The largest foe of the truth is disinformation, and this site has been fanning that fire. It’s reckless.
It is also comical to me that on a site that is perpetuating unsubstantiated rumors and speculations, suddenly verification of my identity is important. The one thing you are keen on verifying is the identity of the man defending himself. Backtracing my IP address before posting my comments is more important than taking the time to make sure you are not mistaken when suggesting to the entire world that I’ve possibly abducted a child? What kind of perverse set of priorities is that?
I understand my tone, but I won’t apologize for it. This is my life, I will not sit casually by while strangers try to wreck it with lies.
I am not interested in offering any details regarding that morning or day. I have not offered information to anyone regarding the events because I don’t want to compromise the investigation at all. I have continued to do so at the expense of my pride, as others have taken to guessing and accusing. This is because I cannot sleep at night thinking that by protecting myself and compromising the investigation, I’ve compromised the safety of a child.
You will do what you will do. But I can tell you first hand that what you are doing is reckless and benefits no one.
1. At NO TIME, did I make an accusation against you. Period. Respectfully, given your patterns that morning, how can you possibly be upset that a PUBLIC RELEASE of same, would call you into question, as you claimed to search the EXACT same wash where evidence was RETRIEVED in this case, minutes later.
2. You are right, you did encounter more than one LEO that morning, so under that auspice I will assume this was you, and you are right, that report is forthcoming, as are the ones about your interview, or at least, I am aware of them.
3. I have attempted to corroborate your comment that Sergio Jr rang your doorbell “repeatedly” with TPD, and have not been successful.
4. Im sorry, did I understand you correctly- you came here to clear things up, but do not want to compromise the investigation? You feel there are important and possibly erroneous facts you are offended by but we should what, exactly?
5. Name one lie. Name one mistruth that is not an opinion, if it can be substantiated, I will absolutely correct it without pause. I am not sure how you do that with your fence straddling position, and the fact that you have not referred to Isabel by name whatsoever, but I am open.
6. Again, at not time did I allege you abducted the child you cannot refer to by name although you were compelled to look for her for hours, and endure this ” scrutiny”.
7. While we are at it, and this is a general question- no malice intended. Why were you driving the Jetta that morning and then for the next several days driving the Taurus?
“The largest foe of the truth”- Seriously?
The largest foe of the truth is A liar, I respond to your query- quote me.
B
Blink, I somehow knew this would happen, but expected it might be from Alicia or Nathan to write in and say, hey, I’m innocent!
I must be looking behind the curtain more than I realized. Thanks for giving us a glimpse of what challenges you are up against.
As Ode said, your integrity is why we are here, working for the innocent.
Thank you Kris and Penladu!
First-time poster here, Blink.
This case makes my head spin. I so appreciate your scrutiny of the released LE reports. I keep going back to the documents to research. Overall, the reports confirm an immense amount of work by LE from that first 911 call.
Some peripheral folks are inserting themselves into this case, such as the Pike neighbors and Mr. Vega, the “close family friend” of Nancy Grace fame. Cousin Justin was the first to speak publicly. Where is he now?
I, too, (along with some other posters) have been curious about that green stool(?) pictured near the alleged abduction scene. Neighbor Alicia Stardavant is an attractive young woman; was someone peeping?
I’m reserving judgment on the RSO down the street, but why did Sergio feel the need to clear him as a suspect? I want to know more about that connection.
I want to follow all the rules for posting here, so please let me know if I’m not measuring up.
Anyway, I eagerly await Part II. Is it June 4th yet? Can’t wait!!
Prayers for little Isa.
Welcome Emilie, and thank you- my only rules are that we are civil to each other even in discord, and we source any statements given as “fact”. One hat per customer
B
Thank you, Blink! Your rules are reasonable and achievable! My pleasure.
Does anyone remember reading in the docs that a receipt for a cap was found and taken into evidence, maybe in the park – I can’t remember. It’s probably a long shot, but a white hat from the trunk of the non-operational car was also taken into evidence. Wonder if the receipt was for that hat. One of the posters suggested that the reddish brown stain on the shower curtain could be hair dye. Was someone trying to change Isa’s appearance…..tuck her hair inside a cap? Wasn’t there a tip in one of the docs about a guy and a little girl in a salon somewhere. The guy was getting the little girl’s hair cut short, I think. Hmmm…..
Hopefully, forensic results will be included in the next set of reports released by LE. I read that blood testing can’t withstand additional testing, could be ruined by an onsite test (can’t think of the specific name for the onsite test). So LE bagged the items and sent the dark-stained pieces of evidence to forensics. Personally, I believe it is blood. I haven’t located any forensic results of the bedding removed from the car trunk that first day.
Kris
You are correct about the suposed hair cut. This was checked by one of the officers and the child did not match the photos of Isa and he had the mother confirm the childs I.D. This is found in the second group of release documents iirc. There was another report of a child and a older man. That was cleared as well. The man was the childs grandfather. It was confirmed on one of the officers reports.
I have read through the first three groups completely and portions of the other three about 300 plus pages. Reading on a 15″ screen in less than page view requires constant scrolling. I can read paper twice as fast.
It appears that there were a lot of agencies involved in the search. A lot of man hours for searching over a large area, including using a choper.
I did come to some conclusions about terminology regarding the reporting of things. In Tuscon, apparently a culvert is called a “tunnel” and any open creek or man made ditch is called a “wash”.
I am still uncertain about the description of electrical boxes and a reported gas meter by the police officers. A lot of photos have been taken,but none are released in the material I have read. I did find pole mounted electrical transformers in areas North of Broadway and South of 16th street. These areas also showed convential electrical drops to the buildings.
This is all done with Google Earth. The latest imagery is not yet in use for Tucson. With the new level four imagery, one can read the names on mail boxes in street view.
ATG-
You are completely right about the difference in terminology- agreed.
Did you check the storm drain maps, etc?
Here is an assortment:
http://www.pagnet.org/programs/library/environmentalplanninglibrary/watershedplanninglibrary/documentsandmaps/watershedplanningmaps/tabid/514/default.aspx
You can see where the base of the “tunnel” is, but there is another at the above intersection I referenced.
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Great post Kris, I caught that info about the receipt for the hat right away because I remembered there was a hat found at the Celis home. Could be strictly coincidence but who knows. I keep thinking about what Becky said, something like once Isabel is back with us all questions will be answered.Like she knew why Isabel is gone. Let’s just hope for some solid evidence soon, I am so tired of guessing.
O/T: Jumps and Grabs ma’am, I so appreciate you. Thanks again, I am quite proud of her. As a freshman in a State Championship Game, she is cool as a cucumber, I am a basketcase.
It is always about a goal, isn’t it, lol?
xoxox
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Pak31, Becky’s statement that you referenced was shocking. She was speaking to a reporter who should have jumped on that with an immediate follow-up: “Why do we have to wait for Isabel to be back with you to have our questions answered?” “When will Isabel be home?” “WHERE is Isabel?” Becky’s cryptic and defensive statements are getting old. It’s not a game.
ITA that it’s time for solid evidence…ideally, DNA evidence from the blood. the dark brown stains in Isabel’s bedroom and on the shower curtain. The forensic evidence will probably be released unless it’s withheld pednding an arrest.
Nathan McDonald says:
June 1, 2012 at 3:03 pm
I’m not going to give you my address, I’m at work. Given what I’ve seen so far with how information is handled on this sight, I am very uncomfortable offering any more. My other response was at home. Both are in the city of Tucson.
I can appreciate your desire to keep it cordial. You must understand my position. If I were to channel 1/10th of the emotion the false accusations leveled at me elicits, we would be having different conversations.
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Nathan, while I am certain that it must be hard to be in your position of being looked at as a possible suspect by the public, please remember that EVERYONE even remotely related to the family (related as in, having some knowledge of the family) will be looked at by LE and by the public. If you are innocent, this would most certainly be unnerving, but understandable.
If you are not familiar with missing persons cases, especially those involving children, maybe you need to read more here on Blink’s site or other places to realize that everyone is looked at-especially males associated with the missing.
I can promise you that the people who post on here want nothing more than for Isabel to be found and the guilty party or parties to be held accountable. No one here delights in an innocent person being accused or harassed or arrested. We all just want justice for Isabel and all the missing.
Thanks, Texas Grandfather, for the info regarding the hair cut tip and the sighting of the child with an older man. I remember reading about them but was fuzzy on some of the details. (I’ve only briefly skimmed the docs once and that was in the wee hours of the morning while fighting to keep my eyes open, lol.) And thanks, too, for all the Google Earth research. I so appreciate all the sharp minds here; ya’ll are great!
@ Laurie O
Thank you for your response. I appreciate your point of view.
I am intimately familiar with the scrutiny of police in this kind of situation, as you can well imagine. Along those lines, I can tell you that no question has been posed by anyone on this site that were not resolved by the police satisfactorily. The police have so much more information than the court of public opinion, and they have never mentioned me until these documents were released.
The court of public opinion, however, has not even a fraction of the information, but they have immediately begun making insinuations in my direction.
Since the day Isabel went missing, I have heard untold rumors, both spoken and on the news, that I know for a fact are untrue. Rumors such as those start with articles such as this.
I truly thank you for your comment. I am not attacking you in any way.
@Blink
This is not a contest. I am not trying to attack you. You have posted only a few of the comments I left and that is your right, it’s your site.
I am unwilling to engage in a debate about what you think might or might not have happened. My sole purpose in posting is to try to impress upon you the recklessness of your pursuit. If you are trying to get to the bottom of this, that is noble. I applaud it. As a man who left his home to search for his neighbor, I can appreciate that. But you are now trying to play connect the dots with hardly any dots to work with. And it is my name you are playing with.
As far as your post, I will respond to some of it.
1. You stated “I have attempted to corroborate your comment that Sergio Jr rang your doorbell “repeatedly” with TPD, and have not been successful.”
I never said that. I said “My neighbor’s boy woke me up by frantically ringing my doorbell. He was ringing doorbells, desperately looking for his sister.”
Your paraphrasing is inaccurate. I never mentioned Sergio Jr. I never mentioned TPD. I never used the word repeatedly. You are putting words in my mouth. I don’t think you are a liar. I think you are confused or misspeaking. Either way the result is the same. You are spreading disinformation.
1. I was paraphrasing, so it is a fair request to use your exact words, and because I commit to my readers that if someone is posting by name, they will be verified by me personally, that is sometimes dependent on my schedule to utilize the tools I need to do that, so again, fair statement on your part and I will make sure everything you posted is actually posted if it has not been already. So you are saying it was not Sergio Jr, but Julian who rang your doorbell and informed you?
2. You stated in your interview that I was “approached” and “confronted” by the officer in the park, and you state that a witness approached the officer and said “THAT individual was sitting on an electrical box behind my home”. None of that is in any report that I’ve read. The witness described a man by description and did not reference me specifically (as far as the reports I’ve read). As I said in other posts you haven’t published, I approached the officer in the park. Our entire conversation took place while he sat in his car. What I saw in that wash that day is well documented by the police. You don’t have that documentation. Where I walked that day is well documented by the police, you don’t have that documentation. They released none of it in their documents. I am not going to be the one to do it. Maybe it’s important to their investigation, I don’t know.
Nathan, I defer to my sources on this one, you are correct, it is not in the report. I am going to assume from your comment about “not reading it in the report” that you were never told that Mr. Lutzelberger described you, from sitting on the electrical box, and I note that you do not deny it. I am not suggesting that is anything nefarious, btw.
3. I don’t want my life broadcast on the internet. I’ve done nothing wrong. The police have satisfied any interest they had in me. The above comments are not a competition, I’m not trying to insult you. I am pointing out that you are clearly, clearly, missing so much information. Many of the questions you are asking are easily answered but they are answers that I have not read released by the police. I won’t be the one to release them. The police know infinitely more about Isabel, the Celis family and whatever happened than you or I, because neither of us were involved and neither of us are in the investigation.
Whether or not LE has no further interest in you, is not known by either of us, but they were, and you were and therefore “are” part of this overall investigation. I wrote this piece based on publicly available documents, without making any accusations about you whatsoever. I cover true crime, and I am an advocate. If people form opinions based on that, I cannot help that, but I can do what I am doing, and that is allowing everyone to hear from you. I may excerpt them for the second half of my piece on the case documents.
I am not attacking you. You would not post my comments for over a day and I had to sit idly by, reading comments about me. You have posted the two most recent comments which are obviously full of frustration and irritation.
I am begging you. Take a step back, wait for more information. Engage in a legitimate pursuit. The internet is an uncaged beast. The seeds you are planting here may follow me for the rest of my life. I hope not because I hope Isabel returns home to Sergio and Becky tomorrow. But until the day she is returned safe and sound, you are putting a stain on my name by connecting me with it. Any connection the police thought I had with it was resolved that day. Watch the press conferences, read their releases. They’ve never once mentioned me.
There were 500 documents released, of all of them you chose to write your article about me. If that isn’t an indirect accusation, it sure seems like it.
This is not personal, this is analysis of information presented as is my right, and no offense, but this article is about Isabel Celis and the case of her disappearance to date. We all have a long way to go unfortunately in the goal in the first place- finding her, and finding out what happened to her.
Blink, I think you are very likely a good person. I’m a good person as well, but I am in an untenable situation here.
Nathan, me in bold. Appreciate your response.
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I forgot your question about the Taurus.
The Taurus had a blown head gasket and was running on 5 cylinders. We were saving money to buy another car. The Taurus at that point was only to get me to and from work. We’ve since bought a Camry and we love it.
If anyone wants to buy a 2004 Taurus with a bad engine let me know. It runs, but just barely.
Pretty sure that won’t compromise any investigation. But this also reinforces my point.
I am not here to offer details of my life. I’ve done that, with the police. I answered their questions because the sooner ruled me out, the sooner they can move on to finding Isabel. That is the attitude of everyone on our street.
I know exactly why the police got a search warrant for my house. They didn’t release that information. I’m not going to be the one to do it. Maybe it’s important for other reasons, I just don’t know. And what I don’t know about, I don’t go on the internet recklessly speculating about.
A bedskirt was found in the wash, along with a sheet and a bag of clothes. If this is evidence related to the case then a couple of things should be considered. Bedskirts are not easy to get off as they are under the mattress. Why would an intruder take time to remove the bedskirt? This would lead one to believe someone within the home is responsible for Isa’s diaappearance.
UNLESS the bedskirt is from the home of the intruder. In that case there is the possibility Isa was taken to the home of the intruder or some other location from whence the bedskirt was taken.
Also, to climb in and out her window, with a child in tow, would have created a lot of marks in the dirt outside her window. I wonder if there is another possible point of entrance? It was stated by Becky, I believe, that the doors were all locked.
no.
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Blink, I have a question:
“…upon reaching the home of Michael Dimitriov, who informs the officer that he is a RSO, one officer is requested to wait there for a detective interview, and requests to search the home and cars.
At approximately 8:40 Officer Bustamonte is greeted at the door by Alicia Gregory. She states she and her boyfriend went to bed at midnight but heard nothing unusual.”
Does Michael Dimitriov share a home with Alicia Gregory and McDonald?