Isabel Celis Abduction BREAKING NEWS: Docs Show Blood In Bedroom Police Eye Family AND Neighbor
*LIVE TONIGHT On THE DANA PRETZER SHOW Blink Discusses The Isabel Celis Case*
After 550 plus pages of what amounts to discovery in a likely criminal case, Friday afternoon yielded a window to the world of the investigation of missing 6 year old Isabel Mercedes Celis.
Isa, according to the document release consisting of 6 packets of PDF files of police incident and timesheet reports was last seen by her Father who kissed her goodnight and dimmed her bedroom light after showering and braiding of her hair by her Mother Becky in anticipation of her baseball game the next morning with the Diamondbacks.
Isabel’s baseball Jersey number is #4.
The “goodnight kiss” was the first time the public has heard the actual version in his words containing the account that he was the last person to see Isabel before her disappearance as well as confirm that her window was closed when he closed the door.
Certainly not unexpected to hear a loving father’s tender goodnight detail to his baby girl, but most unexpected was the revelation that on Isabel’s bedroom floor was an obvious area of blood.
While it has not been disclosed whose blood was located on the floor of the southeast middle bedroom located on E 12th St, Sergio and Becky Celis were required to provide blood samples under a warrant obtained a few days later.
The Usual Suspects- FAMILY
It is clear from the released reports that a significant amount of time and effort has been spent on investigation of Sergio Celis and Becky’s brothers Bob Rodriguez and Justin Mastromarino as previously reported on www.blinkoncrime.com Mastromarino’s own niece Chelsea and her fiancée Danny Cline told a shoe salesperson and subsequently investigators that they believe he is a drug dealer and owes someone a great deal of money and Isa was taken for some purpose to satisfy that debt.
A truck owned by Bob Rodriguez was removed by warrant from in front of the Celis home without warning and a towel which tested negative for blood but reacted to luminol was taken into evidence as well as a pocket knife from its contents.
Blood evidence was found in the driver’s seat of the Toyota Corolla mostly driven by Sergio Celis and the red inoperable Acura as well as a stained shower curtain and white hat. Keeping in mind, Tucson PD released some documents that are heavily redacted as they are required via a freedom of information act request, by any standard; the completeness of the response teams and first responders to the scene and the surroundings was swift and MASSIVE.
Exactly one week earlier on April 13th, Sergio Celis received several criminal citations to include dogs running at large, without proper vaccinations and licenses. Celis pled not guilty during an arraignment on April 26th and is due back in court on June 4th.
At the risk of inserting a glib remark in the middle of such a macabre subject matter- Who let The Dogs Out? Who, Who Who?
Who prompted the report to Tucson City Police in the first place? Was someone attempting to have the animals removed from the residence a week earlier?
Do all the dogs belong to the Celis’s or are they housing them for a family member who now lives in an apartment and cannot keep a pet?
Perhaps this is an indication that what looks to be a fortified and nearly impenetrable without detection abode is, well, not so much. In a video of Isabel singing and dancing to an Abba song (undated but presumed recent) it is clear that the living room window, which shares the same outside wall as the window next to it separated by the interior wall Sergio references in his 911 call, is clearly open.
Celis LR Open BOC
On May 11, citing a previous CPS involvement in December of 2011 and “to provide time and distance” between Sergio and his two sons, Sergio Celis voluntarily agreed to a no contact order after a CPS meeting which was instigated by the detectives working on Isabel’s case- due to “information they learned in the course of the investigation” into Isabel’s disappearance.
What prompted the concerns exactly has not been made public and the order remains in effect. Becky Celis and Sergio’s sister refuted any allegations that Mr. Celis was anything but a model dog owner, Father and Husband at a public vigil for Isabel.
No doubt Sergio Celis’s use of the word abducted and his inappropriate lack of hysteria during the 911 call has made him a defacto suspect if only in the minds, thoughts… and blogs of those following Isabel’s case.
It is not the only oddity. During his first interview at the scene with police, Sergio states he is aware of the registered sex offender down the street, he knows him, and he does not believe him to be involved.
Is that a natural response of a parent who has knowledge of the sex offender status of a neighbor when he has just learned his child is missing?
That said, in the interviews of Sergio Celis’s employers who have known him for several years, he was found to be an exemplary employee, model husband and family man whose advice one dental surgeon sought often for his own personal situation.
It is standard protocol for detectives to conduct a parallel investigation of the victims family, in this case where a 6 year old child seemingly disappears from the window of her bedroom sometime between midnight and 6:30AM, with three dogs on the premises, a stranger abduction within the walls of what looks like a mini Alamo replica defies statistics and logic.
Or Does it?
Neighborly Concern
Matching footprints in the soft dirt around a green electric box along the south wall of the Celis home, on the top of the electric box and on a gas meter box – all along on the southeast perimeter of the wall leading to the alley ( S. Jefferson and E. Cooper) were found by a first response mobile team member and described as “wolverine” pattern as opposed to standard police issue work boots.
Alicia Sturdevant, the infamous neighbor lady who heard male voices outside Isabel’s window as well as barking dogs at 6:28 AM the morning of her disappearance, gave that account in her first interview adding to her credibility of a fresh witness account. Someone posting from another neighbor’s face book account belonging to a Chris Pike, an adult child sibling to a playmate of the Celis children seems to think Ms. Sturtevant’s account is untrue, but has not specified why.
By approximately 8:30AM the morning of Saturday April 21, Tucson Police Department has been on scene for several minutes, has completed initial interviews with the family, incident command has been established and officers begin the immediate knock and talk canvases in the hopes of finding Isabel, or information useful to locating her.
They begin next door and proceed door to door, upon reaching the home of Michael Dimitriov, who informs the officer that he is a RSO, one officer is requested to wait there for a detective interview, and requests to search the home and cars.
At approximately 8:40 Officer Bustamonte is greeted at the door by Alicia Gregory. She states she and her boyfriend went to bed at midnight but heard nothing unusual. According to the officer’s notes, he only speaks to Alicia, in fact, he spells her boyfriend’s name phonetically as he heard her say it: Nathan McDonell.
Mr. Nathan McDonald is not at the residence.
Officer Robinson is then directed to go to Freedom Park to continue search efforts for Isabel, as her team was playing the baseball game scheduled for that morning in her absence. Upon arrival, it was learned that only Isabel’s coach had been informed that she was missing during an earlier call from Sergio Celis.
As Robinson is circling back to receive further assignments in continuing efforts to find Isa, he is tasked with keeping track of vehicles leaving the immediate neighborhood of 12th and Van Buren and notes a green Jetta GLS parked to the East of Craycroft on E. 14th St. After running it’s plates to learn it is registered to a Nathan Patrick McDonald, resident of E. 12th St ., the officer informs Sgt. Dana, incident commander. A redacted portion of the conversation appears in the report.
This occurs at 10:15AM. Between 10:15 and 10:35, the officer observes McDonald emerge from the South end of the Wilshire Park field, carrying a large maglite. McDonald crosses through the middle of the field and when he reaches his vehicle, the officer approaches and McDonald confirms that the green Jetta is his vehicle. He tells him he had heard about the missing girl and was out searching tunnels and washes to the north and south where he found nothing.
McDonald “abruptly” informs the officer he must leave to go home to EAT BREAKFAST and leaves the area in his vehicle. BASTA informs ALL radio contact assigned of his exchange with the subject and a call to other officers on duty with orders to record all vehicles, including taking images of all vehicles currently parked on E. 12th st .
By 10:45AM all are instructed to stop, log plate and driver info and request consent search every vehicle coming in or out of the area.
Chris Lutzelberger, a resident of S. Essex St who likely observed the exchange between McDonald and the officer, asked him what all the police presence in the neighborhood was about.
Lutzelberger informed Robinson him that a man matching McDonald’s description was sitting on an electrical box located behind his residence earlier that morning from approximately 9AM-9:30Am at which time he told the individual to leave.
By 11AM, as security was requested by another officer at 11:23AM, a wash no more than 50 yards from where McDonald entered the south end of the park yielded a sheet, bed skirt, and a bag of clothes that were processed at the scene and taken into evidence.
A warrant was secured hours later at the McDonald/Gregory home on E. 12th St. Taken into evidence was a shoeprint on landscaping “fabric” from the backyard. Shoeprints were now collected on 3 other surface areas.
Part II publishes Monday June 4
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Found this link:
http://www.examiner.com/article/police-looking-at-suspects-persons-of-interest-isabel-celis-case
I appreciate this site and read it every day. I appreciate all that Blink does and the commitment to justice. That being said, there is a six year old little girl very missing, and I think the Celis dog infractions have nothing to do with it and find it a total waste of time to even discuss the irresponsiblity of the charges. Millions of people dont license thier dogs, or forget to vaccinate, or mistakenly let them get out. WHO the heck cares. I am more disturbed this sweet baby girl is gone in the thin air, all public attention has seemed to swiftly cease and her parents have not said in a word in a way too long. Thats a topic for discussion. What in the world happened to her and where the heck is she. As of May 17th Sgt Hawke claimed, snipped :snipped: http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/story/18270127/tpd-still-hoping-to-find-isabel-celis-alive
Updated: May 17, 2012 10:15 PM EDT
Sgt. Maria Hawke
Isabel Celis
TUCSON, AZ (Tucson News Now) –
Tucson Police are still working under the assumption that 6-year-old Isabel Celis, reported missing on April 21, can be found alive.
“We have no indication that she’s not OK, that she’s not alive,” Tucson Police Sgt. Maria Hawke said.
If thats the case then where the heck is this kid, and why arent they searching, and why arent the parents talking, and why isnt the TPD getting out there and begging the public to step up. Thats a discussion, who the heck cares about thier freaking dogs.
laura- respectfully, these are the same dogs that were allegedly barking at 6:28AM the morning of Isa’s disappearance. These are canine witnesses as far as I am concerned and I want to know everything about them and their activity and ownership.. You are discounting an important element to this crime whether the actual citations are relevant or not. B
Nurse Sadie says:
June 7, 2012 at 5:18 pm
Laurie O
Yes they do wear shoe covers in the OR during the procedures!But they do not always wear them after they leave the operating suite but are still in an area where they can get things on their shoes. However , in all the the ER’s I have worked they do not wear them in the ER! I dont know the process & procedures here in Tucson or at either place of employment. Some folks ( Nurses etc) change their shoes when they leave but in my experience many wear Croc’s and they wear them in the ER and home. Shoe covers are not as protective as one would think as they are a form of paper.
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Thank you, Nurse Sadie. Gross, but thanks.
Anybody know if Sergio and Becky are allowed to talk to each other or is it just that Sergio is prohibited from contact with the boys?
@ Laura -
It would be nice to know who called LE about the Celis’ dogs – whether animal control officers automatically patrol the area and spotted them or if there’s a vindictive neighbor with a grudge who might have turned them in……..or, as others have suggested, maybe somebody who wanted the dogs to be impounded and no longer guarding the premise. And just why were the dogs running loose to begin with? Did one of the kids accidentally leave the gate open; maybe an intruder had been making visits before the night Isa went missing? (Has it been reported what kind of dogs we’re talking about? Sorry, if I’ve missed it somewhere.) From what some of the posters have said, anyone can call and report suspicions to CPS. Maybe the same person(s) called about the dogs as well.
ktina says:
June 6, 2012 at 9:39 pm
wpg…It makes me upset that noone is speaking out for Isabel as well.
wpg says:
June 6, 2012 at 6:07 pm
It is waaaay beyond concerning and waaaay beyond sad, that no one from 6-year old Isabel’s family is speaking out FOR HER.
NO ONE.
Not her mother, not her grandmothers, not her grandfathers, not the aunt who was said to be close . . . NO ONE.
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Can you imagine what it is like for this little girl to be sitting somewhere, watching TV because her captors let her, and not seeing one single person on the news begging for her return? My mouth could not stay shut if this were my child or the child of anyone I knew. I agree that this is very odd that no one is talking.
In my opinion, they either have a pretty good idea of where she might be and who she is with or they are afraid to talk.
Blink, my applogies, I came across to harsh. I am frustrated for this little girl and disapointed that her parents are not doing more to keep her name headline news. Iam also having a very hard time believing that this little girl was kidnapped in broad day light, and that if the dogs were barking like this so close to the boys rooms, how they didnt hear it to? Also two businesses located almsot directly behind the Celis home have cameras pointed right in the direction of the residence. One was a security store owner who said the camera had a full view and angle of the alley way as well, I am just wondering how the police havent found anything on those tapes. Seems to me if they want to release a statement “they believe she is alive and have no indication she is not ok”, they would’ve had to of seen something to lead them to that conclusion right? I guess I dont put a ton of wieght on these canine witnesses because they are not specially trained, cannot talk to us. We know from previous accounts they would bark alot, and ran loose etc, I just dont know how irresponsible ownership of them plays into the important element of this crime, IMO of course, and totally respecting yours. I have been on the fence the entire time since the case broke about whether this is family vs stranger abduction. It seems to me that if theres blood stains in the house, possible blood on shower curtains, possible bedding missing… on and on quite a bit of stuff must of went down in that house that night! I find it extremely alarming that noone heard a thing and that those dogs didnt go crazy with some stranger inside carrying all this out. As far as a stranger, IMO the footprints on the electrical box could make sense, perhaps they were peeking into the Celis bedroom to see if they were asleep, just very brazen if thats the case, but we have seen stranger things.
@Laurie O I agree with you 100% ! At Kris, very good and valid point. I couldnt find the type of dogs, the one she is holidng in her picture looks like a little type of poddle/lap dog or something. But when I saw footage on this story on Nancy Grace, there was a German Shepard mix in the doorway of the Celis home.
so much of this case is rumor , because the folks that know are so invisible and silent. I agree that they(parents & maybe cops) know where she is either dead or alive and the cops are proofing up the case for an arrest. If she is alive , the parents may have away to communicate with her and they may need to be silent as part of the rules they need to play to get her back. All a bunch of guess work !But we should all pray for her safe return and for the family to reunite if they want that to happen! Families often divorce after these type of events if they can not pull together.
re: the Celis’ dogs, what kind
Can’t say for sure this is the “3rd dog”, but a few seconds of this May 28th Today Show segment/video show Isa’s white dog along with a white/black dog.
I “think” the video was taken at the front of the Celis’ open garage, with the dogs being held in people’s laps.
Starting at the 3:58 time mark will give you a few seconds before the 2 dogs appear:
http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/47588458#47588458
Above link has accompanying transcript of the Today Show segment titled “New docs: Blood found in missing girl’s bedroom”.
Isa’s dog has the physical characteristics of a long-haired Jack Russell terrier.
The white and black dog may also be a Jack Russell or a mix.
Wondering if someone in the neighborhood or someone known to the family has a dog(s) that birthed the litter from where Isa’s puppy is from.
And was Isa in frequent contact with the dog/litter/owner(s) before and after she received her puppy . . .
Blink,
Any knowledge of Becky’s stepfather, Hector Rodriquez or brother, Luis? I read today (http://azstarnet.com) that LE has a Blackberry belonging to Rebecca Celis’ brother and photos of text messages, call logs and contact information.
My dreams/nightmares/visions often tell a story that somehow brings things to light, especially when I dream about people/places I don’t know. Going to the authorities never seems like a good idea because I don’t know the people and can never quite figure out how to explain it all…
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During the night of April 20th/early morning of April 21st, I had a nightmare. I was watching a man who looked like Pee Wee Herman and had a strange laugh who kept forcing a female to come into a bathroom with a door that would not close properly. Then I escaped out of the bathroom and saw the little girl with long dark hair on the wire bed without the mattress. She was covered in blood and her body looked as if it had been burned in places. I was so upset by what I saw that I woke up in terror and crying.
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I went for out for breakfast the next day (Sunday) and that was when I saw the first poster about Isabel Celis missing; later that week I had another dream/vision that the person who hurt her was the man who called her Belle (like Belle in Beauty and the Beast) because it was her favorite movie.
Disclaimer: The pictures referenced below are ONLY for a visual comparison and are in no way indicative of any attempt to suggest that either person shown is in any way responsible for anything.
Herman Image found here: http://blogington.com/21-hilarious-celebrity-mugshots/
Celis Image found here: http://detectivessinfronteras.blogspot.com/2012/05/tucson-az-isabel-mercedes-celis.html
I have no idea why I am allowing this but I am, it is pretty specific.
B
#12 – WOW. I am speechless.
Heroic Ms. Blink, thank you for allowing Dreamer’s post and the link to the 21 hilarious celeb mugshots (with the Pee Wee Herman mugshot Dreamer references)–that mugshot of Bill Gates is absolutely adorable, heeee! I needed that laugh this morning! Very interesting dream, Dreamer. Wonder why I often dream about the Toto-chasing trees from The Wizard of Oz???? Blink, Safe travels on your journeys, STAY HYDRATED, missy! Hope Blinkett’s tourney went well and no bandages or ice packs were necessary. Peace and justice for little Isabel.
Ty kindly.
B
The PeeWee Herman pic looks like SC
No offense, but this is why I generally do not allow comments like that.
B
Dreams are another facilitator for awareness, at least in my experience. I have very often dreamed of something with no relation to my life, such as an airplane crash or a fire or even an unknown (to me) person, only to awaken to a newscast or a newspaper headline about the very same thing or event. I tend to think of it as enhanced precognition. If only we knew which dreams are precognitive or factually informative, they would be tremendous assets. Unfortunately, most of the time it is only after the fact that the significance of the dream is recognized. I’ve had a couple occurances where my inability to discern what I was seeing had tragic results. I’ve come to hate when I have vivid dreams, particularyly about family.
Dreamer’s account of her dream is indeed specific.
Just a respectful caution, I am no proponent of psychics in criminal casework. I believe in the celestine prophecy theory that there is no such thing as a coincidence, but we are going to stay tight to the double line here.
B
@Blink
Celis Image found here:
http://detectivessinfronteras.blogspot.com/2012/05/tucson-az-isabel-mercedes-celis.html
I have no idea why I am allowing this but I am, it is pretty specific.
B
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Anyone else having trouble with the above website. Keeps crashing on me.
Just an fyi, my quote was in regard to the “dream”.
B
omg, Dreamer! ….creepy amazing. WHEN will we finally find this precious little girl and put the psycho who did this away? It’s SOOO frustrating that she could just disappear into thin air!!! I know the police know more than they’re saying, but hearing nothing day after day is driving me crazy! WHERE IS SHE????
Dreamer:
Thank you for sharing. Blink, I appreciate your decision to allow it. I got very emotional reading this post. I believe something sinister and dark is behind Isa’s disappearance. May God protect Isa and bring her home.
So I am ready the Nogales International newspaper from Friday June 8th and there is a “police report section and one of the segments states they responded to the Family Dollar store in Nogales because a 5 year child that had been kidnapped was dropped off there to be returned to parents and they pick up the child????? I was amazed as the sections read like this was a rather routine event ? So that is my question , is this a common event , are children pawns in the narco crime taking place? Obviously it is crazy and is it why the TPD and the Celis family believes she is alive?
Dreamer and Blink-
Thanks for the description of the dream. I am not into psychics but I do believe that God sometimes sends us messages through dreams.
I had a very unusual dream once on the night someone died and I didn’t know the person had died until 2 days later. I nearly crapped my drawers because of the dream I had. Blew me away. Still does.
I encourage you, Dreamer, to give your dream description to the authorities, just in case it might help them somehow, even if all it does is to verify a gut instinct they have. It may still help somehow, even though it is not actual evidence.
Praying for this little doll and all the missing.
Dreamer, Hello I do not whether or not your dream was precognitive….I have no doubt that the dream was upsetting to you, and I realize that you are very serious as you went to the trouble of including links and going into great detail. I am sorry you were so disturbed.
Everyone from time to time has intuitive thoughts or dreams especially in hindsight. It is usually very hard to prove these precognitive dream/thought episodes happened as most people do not think to share-until some real life event or person sparks the memory after the fact…
Dreamer, if I may I would like to offer a not so paranormal reason for your dream,-
Dreamer if you are following true crime and websites like BOC where missing and murdered children like little Ethan Stacy, Zahra Baker, Jon Benet Ramsey etc are discussed add to that cases like Susan Smith and her little boys – then it is not hard to imagine why you are having vivid nightmares of hurt children and helpless women and men and bad people
I often have some really bad dreams & Honestly I dont know how Blink sleeps covering all these cases….IMO everyone at one time or another has had a dream that seems precognitive in one way or another, and all have had a deja vu moment…
So if you are dreaming of a man trying to hold a woman against her will or dreaming of a scared child- bloody and burned, I dont necessarily see that as strange given the subject matter. Nor do I find it necessarily precognitive either.
The same goes for the other details you incorporated Belle from Beauty and the Beast – as it is not a stretch to think that any little girl of Isas age would like that movie or a parent would nickname them as such- or any another Disney character – or that their parents would have that theme for their room-
Take for instance Caylee and Winnie the Pooh- and little Jon Benet Ramsey who was also six- and who also loved Beauty and the Beast- and infact had her bed sheets etc covered with B&B and was said to have been taken from her bed and murdered some believe by a friendly Santa, others by a bad stranger others still by a parent or sibling …-
So you see, it would not be uncommon or weird or even extraordinary to incorporate these details into such a dream – as sadly there have been many children who are bloodied and their beds show the signs- such as little Zahra- and there are little children that have been burned such as Ethan Stacy- and sadly it is usually their parents or caregivers who are the culprits or thought to be the culprits-
And as for incorporating someone who laughs like Pee Wee Herman- well- I would say perhaps you think that laugh is scary- some think Santas are scary…and it could go towards you subconsciously thinking someone that a child thinks he knows- “not a stranger” someone they are comfortable with and think of as good like Santa or Mr. Rogers or a Pew Wee Herman would have the perfect guise to lure and harm a child…-
And seeing how “Pee Wee” has had problems with the law…- I do not find it all that strange that in your dream you would have alook alike character in such a role
Dreamer I do not know what happened to little Isa- and I dont know if your dream and your interpretation of it, will prove true… but I hope I helped you & others to see different reason for having the dream other than it being precognitive.
IMO There is often no way to know whether or not a person has had a precognitive dream
– its all highly subjective -
I do thank you for your advocacy and for sharing your thoughts Dreamer and I wish you and all a goodnights sleep
Prayers for Isa-
AJMO
Argg so many mistakes sorry-
Pew Wee Herman seriously?!
Please forgive my mistakes and typos Dreamer and all-
BTW the first sentence should have read:
Dreamer, Hello I do not know whether or not your dream was precognitive
AJMO
Peace
I am into psychics and don’t believe in anyone’s version of God- and I think some people have the ability to “connect”- and in fact it will be scientifically validated shortly (currently being studied at major universities). I think the LE would be open to dreamer’s dream since they took the other womens dream down – part of doc drop- and did not appear to poo poo it- on least on paper. I think they would be open to anything at this point- I wish they would use donations to hire private investigator like in missing New orleans women’s case. Seems to be working there.
Blink, was there a FBI profile of the abductor released for Isabel? This is my first time posting here. I have been reading BOC shortly after Kyron went missing, Bless his heart and his Momma’s too. Thank you for your dedication to all the missing children.
Not released, no.
B
On the subject of dreams. In the reports IIRC one of the doctor’s at SC job had a dream prior to Isabel’s missing and consulted someone about it. I will try and find where the report is in the dump..Argggg
Doctor’s dream from SC work place is in pack 5, page 34 of the Doc. Dump. Go figure, pack 5 and I started searching from pack 1. I did see some other things I had forgotten about. It was a good fast review. Please don’t think I am trying to promote any dream theroy.
@Mom3.0 says:
June 10, 2012 at 1:42 am
(snipped)”I often have some really bad dreams & Honestly I dont know how Blink sleeps covering all these cases….IMO everyone at one time or another has had a dream that seems precognitive in one way or another, and all have had a deja vu moment… ”
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I totally relate to your comments. I need to take a break more often than I do to avoid the nightmares!
Rose, hey. Oh i agree about structure with the two writers. Caught it right away , but thought discussion between the two might have produced that effect.
My eyes are fine, thanks for asking. Today they’re going to take on some glorious West Coast weather!
Ode thx for pulling out the Dr.’s dream to add to the annotation list. Does anyone else have notes to share?
Dreamer says:
(snip)
“later that week I had another dream/vision that the person who hurt her was the man who called her Belle (like Belle in Beauty and the Beast) because it was her favorite movie.”
Dreamer,
When you say “because it was her favorite movie”, I get the impression this was not part of a dream but more a statement based on a known fact.
I’d appreciate if you could please clarify this statement regarding Isabel.
Thank you, Dreamer.
Read an interesting dynamic of comments under the June 5 posting of an article titled “Police on Isabel: There are suspects” on the site
http://www.facebook.com/FindIsabelCelis
Comments are discussing SC – - some in support, some questioning.
There is a post/comment on June 5 from a member of Isa’s family . . . a cousin. However it is in support of another poster’s comments that are in support of SC.
The most recent comment under that discussion (at this time of my post), is most interesting, and appears to be from a member of the female neighbor’s family or someone using their account.
Blink, if the comment is not okay to post, please edit (I’m not posting the name, it can be read at the facebook link).
(name) “He failed the polygraph twice, he’s being kept away from his boys and wife, his 911 call was more than suspect, he has not yet been cleared, and that is just some of the facts that I know. Not sure how much more proof you really need. I desperately want her home safe with her mom and brothers. They love her very much, as does the community.”
13 hours ago
@wpg says:
June 10, 2012 at 4:02 pm
Read an interesting dynamic of comments under the June 5 posting of an article titled “Police on Isabel: There are suspects” on the site
http://www.facebook.com/FindIsabelCelis
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I’m guessing it’s a relative of the neighbor gal who heard the dogs barking at 8:AM. Boy, she just wrote a mouthful!! Waiting for Blink’s Part 2.
@wpg
Sorry, meant to say dogs barking at 6:30am…(time for my afternoon “siesta”)
Iyla/wpg- thanks for Facebook link- I didn’t know I could read even a link without: 1) having a facebook acoount; 2) being a “friend” on that particular account. This is great! Also, “Dreamer” hasn’t responded to question yet- but my guess is “Beauty and the Beast” being her favorite movie was just part of the dream (but makes sence since Belle is a dark haired character and my mexican neices like her and snow white best because of that characteristic. Last: Ode- what about doctor dream in “pack 5, page 34 of the Doc. Dump.”- anyhing interesting? Thanks
@deb..Below is where I look at the Doc.released. There is a link to all 6 Packs. SM is a sister site to Blink’s. I know it is also posted here somewhere to a link of the Doc. but I can’t find it.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=13112.0
Good Morning, Blink.
How’s that wrapping going?
xoxo’s
Well, I lost the tape. Lol. One down two to go, thanks for your patience.
B
Here is a recently updated question page I found on the “Find Isabel” FB
page. Some rather unusual q&a, imo.
http://bringisahome.com/faq/
Not sure if anyone saw Nathan’s dad’s facebook page, but due to the recent posts about the dead rattlesnake, it caught my eye that he goes by the Facebook name “Tom ‘SnakeBoy’ McDonald”.
Does anyone else find all of the pictures of him with young girls who appear to be his students really odd? I saw that he teaches at the community college, but I dont think its appropriate to be hanging out with so many girls that much younger than him (especially if theyre students) at sporting events, bars, and have entire facebook albums entitled “Girls gone wild Morning Edition” and “Girls Night Out”.
Wayyyy creepy
https://www.facebook.com/SnakeBoy
As quoted from Isabel Celis’ FB page: “Isabel Mercedes Celis’s parents put her to bed on the night of Friday, April 20th around 11pm. Mom woke up before everyone else, got ready for work and left around 6:30am. Dad woke up shortly after and went to wake the children. It was around 8am when he noticed Isa was not in her room. At that time the police were notified. A screen from one of the windows was compromised, the blinds had been shoved aside.”
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My thinking is that when BC left for work at 6:30 am, SC jumped out of bed and was at the side of the house outside Isa’s window with another male talking shortly after BC left for work. The neighbor’s dogs were barking at 6:38 am. The FB page states that SC did not notice Isa was NOT in her room until 8 am, but the FB page clearly states that he went to ‘wake the children shortly after 6:30 am when he got up.’ The comments on FB certainly don’t add up and leave the door open as to what really happened during the hour of 6:30 am and 8 am when he made the 911 call.
While 6:30 am and 8 am on April 21st is crucial, so is the night time version of SC’s timeline story. Falling asleep supposedly on the couch until 5 am when he finally got up and went to bed. What transpired during the night with Isa that had to be finished up outside Isa’s window at 6:38 am after BC went to work?
They need a good interrogator to pull the story out of that crucial time period. They, whoever the writer was for the FB page, tried to ‘gloss’ over the general timeline, but it doesn’t add up and it points to the obvious deception of the Celis’s story. There’s a weak-link right there. JMO
Eloise, I went to the BringIsaHome page and went through the questions. My fav was “Why isn’t the family doing more”?!!! Well, by golly, they ARE searching the answers says! By searching they mean going to the command post sometimes AND arrive at arranged events. Damn, what more could we want from them? Sounds like they need a vacay from all that showing up they are doing! They boil my blood!!! Poor little Isa!
I hope local media requests a public presser from TPD and TPD obliges.
Recall Sgt. Pacheco saying something along the lines about another presser if media requests it.
At the past pressers, there were very good and well-thought-out questions from local media, so, imo, coming up with a list of queries – - even updates on past ones such as “Are you (TPD) still in support of Isabel’s parents speaking out publicly?” – - should not be a problem.
Hoping for a Tucson Police Department media presser . . ANY DAY NOW WOULD BE GOOD.
Miss Bri says:
June 13, 2012 at 5:47 am
Not sure if anyone saw Nathan’s dad’s facebook page, but due to the recent posts about the dead rattlesnake, it caught my eye that he goes by the Facebook name “Tom ‘SnakeBoy’ McDonald”.
Does anyone else find all of the pictures of him with young girls who appear to be his students really odd? I saw that he teaches at the community college, but I dont think its appropriate to be hanging out with so many girls that much younger than him (especially if theyre students) at sporting events, bars, and have entire facebook albums entitled “Girls gone wild Morning Edition” and “Girls Night Out”.
Wayyyy creepy
https://www.facebook.com/SnakeBoy
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the comments under one of the pics he is in with a bunch of girls says something about why he has so many female pics and he says he takes the pics with one hand so he isn’t in the pic much. He also says he is usually kissing his male students. Alrighty then.
the pics made me think he might just be kinda weird or eccentric. Maybe those were end of the quarter pics and he went out to eat with his class. but I still find the pics a bit odd.
Obviously the rattlesnake caught my attention because of the connection- thus why I made the comment.
I have a very dear friend from Ontario Mr. Blink and I had dinner with the other night when he was in town, and we have similar political views economically, but vastly different views socially.
He calls me Mr. Kennedy’s emotional mistress, lol.
I call him Berkely.
Proff McDonald reminds me of a Berkely, but I can tell you that if Blinkette was in school and was pictured like that with her Proff, her Daddy would introduce himself, no doubt in my mind.
B
39. Miss Bri says:
June 13, 2012 at 5:47 am
Not sure if anyone saw Nathan’s dad’s facebook page, but due to the recent posts about the dead rattlesnake, it caught my eye that he goes by the Facebook name “Tom ‘SnakeBoy’ McDonald”.
Does anyone else find all of the pictures of him with young girls who appear to be his students really odd? I saw that he teaches at the community college, but I dont think its appropriate to be hanging out with so many girls that much younger than him (especially if theyre students) at sporting events, bars, and have entire facebook albums entitled “Girls gone wild Morning Edition” and “Girls Night Out”.
Wayyyy creepy
https://www.facebook.com/SnakeBoy
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Good gravy, in his photos, the album “Girls gone wild Morning Ed.” have captions indicating they were taken in Jamaica–what kinda community college teacher goes with a class to Jamaica??!!! All of those pics are totally wayyyy beyond creepy.
Miss Bri
a Stanford Baby boomer , which looks like who he is! Site is a little creepy for a guy his age~
This is a cold case ! TPD does not appear interested in solving this case , who is speaking for Isa? This is so sad , her parents have gone underground! No family , grandparents, aunts, etc is speaking out. Are the parents back to work? Is anyone living in the house? If not why? I would want to be close to her things , and in my own home!It appears that the whole extended family have closed the circle of trust and are not speaking out. No Prayer circles, no vigils , no media coverage? I dont understand!
The very sad reality seems to be that in our society, in these times, it really seems pretty easy to get away with murder. One child after another, one woman after another. I know it’s very important to protect the rights of “a person of interest”, but in cases like this, I long for the days when all you needed to get the ball rolling was motive & opportunity. Now it seems if you don’t have solid DNA evidence or a very reliable eyewitness, you ain’t got nothin’~
Like John Walsh said “No body, No crime.” It is sickening and disgussting.
There hasn’t been any news for a long time from the Pima County Sheriffs on the April 30th child assaults/home break-in with the Caucasian suspect in his 20s, green tank top, dark shorts, dark glasses.
IDK, just thought of it to mention.
Proff McDonald reminds me of a Berkely, but I can tell you that if Blinkette was in school and was pictured like that with her Proff, her Daddy would introduce himself, no doubt in my mind.
B
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Hey Blink, you and me both would be peeved beyond acceptable words. BUT let’s remember that these girls are choosing to hang out with him and be photographed that way. I would guess they have not been taught any better or their parents don’t give a damn.