Kyron Horman Missing Case Breaking News: Remains Believed To Be Human Located Off Sauvie Island
Sauvie Island, Oregon-There are unconfirmed
Update 1: As referenced on KOIN, a teenage fisherman believes he snagged a scalp with human hair attached, which he originally thought was horse hair. Columbia County detectives cordoned off the scene last evening and MCSO dive teams entered the water but found nothing. The possible “hair” was sent for testing.
Multnomah County Sheriff Office will not comment on the find, or confirm whether their office has facilitated the removal of same, or forwarded any items to the medical examiner for testing.
Following the disappearance of Kyron Horman, Sauvie Island has been the subject of repeated searchers for the missing Skyline second grader with no results.
It is also the former home of a man considered to be Federal fugitive following a confrontation with a Lincoln City officer with nearly fatal results. Officer Steven Dodds was able to return to duty after extensive rehabilitation.
Durham was a Sauvie Island resident for over 6 years and a volunteer fire fighter until he was removed from duty 6 months prior to the shooting.
David Durham’s dog was recovered injured following what appeared to be an accident in the suspects vehicle and is being cared for by a friend of the family. Mr. Durham has not been seen since his vehicle was recovered in the bay town of Waldport, Oregon.
Please check back to www.blinkoncrime.com for updates to this breaking story.
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Kimberly says:
June 29, 2012 at 6:40 pm
24. T. Ruth says:
June 29, 2012 at 1:07 pm
SNIP>
I have always wondered why Houze/Bunch wanted two years in the first place. Two years seemed a long time to push for abatement. Now they’re getting it, but why two years? Did Houze think it would take that much time to investigate and build Terri’s side of the case? By the time Desiree’s suit gets underway, it would be about the two year mark as well. Maybe we will finally see something happen in this case. I hope so.
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I’ve wondered that myself. I’m wondering if there are some sort of statute of limitations re: a 2 year period that we aren’t aware of?
Blink, is there some sort of Statute that expires at the 2year mark?
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2 years is what Oregon allows for an abatement. I will post a link when I have time to look for it. It can be set aside at any time the parties request it, but it expires at the end of the 2 years if still running. I am not sure if there are any circumstances considered so extraordinary that it could be continued – my guess is that this case, as I know it to be now, wouldn’t qualify for further abatement even if that were a possibility. Remember, at the beginning they only got 3 months from the judge and it was continued later. TH could just go ahead and take the 5th. The only way I can see she could get out of taking psychological exams or releasing medical records would be not to ask for visitation or custody of Kiara.
Again, Tyler Lupoli. Sentenced to two years in prison and out in 10 DAYS! A repeated sex offender and drug user to boot!
http://www.oregonlive.com/hillsboro/index.ssf/2012/06/hillsboro_sex_offender_sent_to.html
(snipped) “In 2006, jurors convicted Miller – who changed his name from Lupoli last year – of molesting several young girls in the daycare center of 24 Hour Fitness in Hillsboro, where he sold memberships. On appeal, his prison term was reduced and he was released last year.
Since his release, he has twice violated his probation. In January, he was found in violation when he returned as a member to the gym where his crimes occurred. Then, in a June 7 hearing, he was found in violation after he admitted to using marijuana and tested positive for methamphetamine.”
I agree, Idaho, the RO is poorly written. There are other Rackner documents that are poorly written in this case as well.
Remember when Kaine Horman made the remark that it may take 10 months or two years? I’m really wondering if we’re missing something about the two year mark. Is there a limit to how long an initial divorce filing can be abated?
Is that what this says here? (a) : (Sorry I’m so lame.)
http://www.scribd.com/doc/35068511/Request-for-Divorce-Delay
@Idahogal
After the shock wore off
I thought sure she is being investigated for MFH and missing Kyron
Everyone knows that
No big deal
Any other crimes we would have heard about them before
At least I live with that
And you are right about the words
Here’s another dumb question. If Terri is protecting someone and Kyron died an accidental death, is there a statute of limitations on when a wrongful death, or whatever it would be called can be filed?
@Amys Sister
What letter at the wall of hope are you referring to?
@Malty says:
June 29, 2012 at 4:07 am
Involvement in violent crimes. ??
Ok
What do you think?
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You’d think after two years into the investigation if TH was involved in violent crimes we’d have heard something. jmo
Just a reminder of what Kaine was saying in May 2011. (My transcription).
At 3:45:
“We need the truth of what happened that day, and, were just not getting it. It could have been Terri acting alone that day, it could have been someone other than Terri acting alone that day, it could have been Terri with a co-conspirator. There’s really, at this point in time, it’s really hard to tell.”
http://videos.oregonlive.com/oregonian/2011/05/nearly_one_year_later_kyron_ho.html
Just a note, Judgr M married my husband and I on a Saturday so, I guess if it is important enough he will work on a weekend.
Idahogal says:
June 30, 2012 at 10:09 am
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2012/06/kaine_hormans_restraining_orde.html#incart_river_default
Snipped again!>>>
Kaine Horman’s petition for renewing the restraining order also noted, “Respondent is being investigated by law enforcement for her involvement in violent crimes.”
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I’m curious as to why this doesn’t say “for her POSSIBLE involvement” or “for her ALLEGED involvement” in violent crimes.”
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I understand your question. I have no answer, except that I suppose when you present something to a court, and copies go to the other party’s attorneys, it is those attorneys who should be objecting to the wording or responding to anything else about the filing. That’s what you pay them for. But that would require a written response from them and a scheduled hearing to complain about it, I would think, and that’s a door they haven’t wanted to open.
IMO, either the wording stands because it’s true, or because Th’s attorneys didn’t want to speak up about it, or they didn’t notice (which I find almost impossible to imagine).
Why credit unvalidated & untested (as evidence) emails without any transcript
on Kyron yet not same which reportedly implicate JoePa on Sandusky?
(not directed to Blink et al who do neither)
@MockingbirdSings
It’s beginning to sound more like a “cat and mouse” game instead of an investigation. Very frustrating…I can’t forget the Kyron factor.
Here are 2 links for those wondering about the 2-year term for abatement and for those wondering about the RO. The first link is rather long. Of interest are the following if your time is limited:
107.725 Renewal of Restraining Order
107.700 Family Abuse Prevention Act
107.425 re what’s involved in investigating parties in a custody disagreement
http://www.leg.state.or.us/ors/107.html
Chapter 107 — Marital Dissolution, Annulment and Separation; Mediation and Conciliation Services; Family Abuse Prevention
2011 EDITION
http://www.ojd.state.or.us/web/ojdpublications.nsf/Files/Multnomah_SLR_2012.pdf/$File/Multnomah_SLR_2012.pdf
1.015 re abated cases
I hope this is helpful.
Rose says:
June 29, 2012 at 1:24 pm
@MBS. I respectfully disagree complexity dictated case retention.
Many cases are this complex or more so.
It would be utterly narcissistic of KM to think a judicial
colleague was less ept on this or any other complex case.
The divorce case had hardly begun, and had reached no substantive issues.
Had not embarked on the Trial itself. Imo no reason to retain but for CYA on the weaknesses of the RO.
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@Rose – oops. I didn’t mean to suggest that the judge or anyone else including myself thought he was the only one who could handle the case. Sorry.
It is common in Oregon for retired members of the Bar to continue serving in some way. There seems to be a backlog of cases every so often, among other reasons. The woman appointed to fill his position had never been a judge before, but that doesn’t mean she couldn’t jump in and do it. I’m sure Judge M. is quite familiar with the “cast of characters” we’ve been discussing though, and if I were in his place, I’d hate to give this one up. Don’t know – but he probably had his choice of what to do.
“The Honorable Keith Meisenheimer, served as a Multnomah County Circuit judge until 2010. He is now on senior status. This means that even though he is retired, he is called into service from time to time to assist in counties across the state.”
https://sites.google.com/site/paththroughhistory/classroom-news/20120308newsfromclassroomlawproject
Scheduled hearing in pending Horman divorce case is postponed, court staff say
Published: Monday, January 03, 2011, 7:59 PM
Updated: Monday, January 03, 2011, 8:16 PM
Terri Horman’s divorce attorney Peter Bunch argued that a parallel civil divorce case, while the criminal investigation proceeds into Kyron’s disappearance from Skyline School, would jeopardize Terri Horman’s Fifth Amendment rights not to incriminate herself. Bunch argued that law enforcement are trying to obtain discovery through the civil proceeding for the ongoing criminal case.
Multnomah County Judge Keith Meisenheimer ruled in October that there’s “substantial overlap of evidence” between the divorce case and the criminal inquiry and parallel proceedings could create a discovery nightmare. But he said he also had to balance Terri Horman’s constitutional rights with Kaine Horman’s right to a prompt resolution of custody, parenting, property and financial matters.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2011/01/post_53.html
Amy’s Sister says:
June 30, 2012 at 12:20 pm
I’ll add that if we’re to take the restraining order at face value we are led to believe that Terri Horman has been linked to violent crimes.
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IMO
Since LE believes there may have been a MFH but can’t prove it and MFH is a violent crime then yes TH has been linked and may still be being investigated for a violent crime. The same goes for the abduction of Kyron (violent crime) probably because LE thinks that Kyron is no longer alive.
I don’t think Rackner is referring to any new crimes or old crimes of Terri’s that we have not heard of yet. And it still remains to be proven that there was an attempted MFH by Terri against Kaine and that Terri was involved in Kyrons disappearance.
I think Rackner is just trying to get the most out of what she has to say about Terri by wording her statement in a way that makes Terri look as bad as possible so the RO can be renewed/continued.
One other thing about what I said concerning abatement – the 2 years to abate cases that I linked previously was from Multnomah County. I am not sure other counties have the exact same provision, but I guess it doesn’t matter since Multnomah County is where the case is ongoing anyway. Just wanted to be clear.
Follow up to my earlier post.
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quizzical says:
June 30, 2012 at 7:03 pm
~snip
“There’s really, at this point in time, it’s really hard to tell.”
~snip
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What was Kaine planning on saying?
My first guess: “There’s really no way to tell”.
@CD
I agree with your words
I think the RO is written to make Terri look bad
As possible
And to discourage her from asking to see Kiara
Giving the impression there is worse to come if she tries
Malty says:
June 30, 2012 at 1:23 pm
@Idahogal
After the shock wore off
I thought sure she is being investigated for MFH and missing Kyron
Everyone knows that
No big deal
Any other crimes we would have heard about them before
At least I live with that
And you are right about the words
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Hi Malty! Normally I would certainly think we the public would have hears about other violent crimes that TH was involved in. However, with the lack of info. and silence from LE in this case, I have to wonder.
What if LE is sitting on some other crime, not making an arrest? Would they do this because bringing charges before finding Kyron, or evidence thereof, would jeopardize Kyron’s case? IDK enough about the legalities of these things, but I’ll bet some of you do, is that even possible?
Malty says:
June 30, 2012 at 1:23 pm
@Idahogal
After the shock wore off
I thought sure she is being investigated for MFH and missing Kyron
Everyone knows that
No big deal
Any other crimes we would have heard about them before
At least I live with that
And you are right about the words
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Hi Malty! Normally I would certainly think we the public would have heard about other violent crimes that TH was involved in. However, with the lack of info. and silence from LE in this case, I have to wonder.
I agree it is likely in reference to the MFH and Kyron’s disappearance. I suppose LE could be waiting to charge her with something, or maybe they just don’t have what they need to do so, which seems more likely as per the grand jury. Speaking of the GJ, what is the current status on that?
@ MBS,
Thank you for the response and links, I should have mentioned in my post that I did understand those timelines for abatement and etc.
What I was trying to convey, is, I’m super curious what and or why, TH’s team would benefit from a 2 year wait? There has to be more to it, (legally) than we know, otherwise I just don’t see them asking for it if she wouldn’t benefit somehow. All JMO
Example,
* does it mean if she isn’t arrested or charged in that time frame
then she’s off the hook? (doubtful)
* Monetary reasons?
* certain information can’t be used against her once the 2 years has passed?
And etc?
@cd
http://www.leg.state.or.us/ors/107.html
Chapter 107 — Marital Dissolution, Annulment and Separation; Mediation and Conciliation Services; Family Abuse Prevention
2011 EDITION
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I believe it says there is no new crime required to renew the RO. So I think you are right except the the “target” for her statement is probably the public rather than the judge who doesn’t need it. Everyone knew some of the media would be watching and would publish whatever came out.
The RO can go on forever – even be continued by Kiara herself after she turns 18 – renewed annually unless TH contests it and wins, or Kaine declines to renew (although I think it can be renewed for the child alone if deemed in her best interest in the future). This is the way Oregon does it. When you think about it, it makes sense. If you have a restraining order that works and there is no contact for a year, it would be illogical, IMO, to say you had to come up with a new crime against you to continue it.
46. erose says:
June 30, 2012 at 7:23 am
Could the 2 year mark have anything to do with accessing civil litigation? The time frame seems to coincide. Would there be an extension of the RO without the suit DY filed?
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Good question. Maybe I’m overthinking my questions and it’s all
just as simple as this.;)
@MockingbirdSings says:
June 30, 2012 at 10:15 pm
(snipped) “Multnomah County Judge Keith Meisenheimer ruled in October that there’s “substantial overlap of evidence” between the divorce case and the criminal inquiry and parallel proceedings could create a discovery nightmare. But he said he also had to balance Terri Horman’s constitutional rights with Kaine Horman’s right to a prompt resolution of custody, parenting, property and financial matters.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2011/01/post_53.html”
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Maybe you could clarify for me; I wasn’t aware you needed any specific reason for obtaining a divorce in Oregon let alone presenting evidence why you wanted to obtain one. Why can’t the RO/Divorce and criminal case be handled independently? The criminal case may never be solved. I admit I don’t understand the reasoning why the separate cases are intertwined. It seems like it’s all come to a great big halt. Thanks MbS!!
This is a strange incident. Wondering why this guy would shoot himself while being pulled over for an expired plate, reminds me of DAD. Anyway, there’s a picture of his van here, so just putting it here in case anyone recalls any attempted abductions involving a vehicle like this one.
http://www.kptv.com/story/18893222/driver-suffers-gunshot-wound-on-i-5
State police ID man who shot himself on I-5 in Tualatin
Posted: Jun 27, 2012 7:58 AM PDT Updated: Jun 27, 2012 11:15 AM PDT
By FOX 12 Staff – email
TUALATIN, OR (KPTV) -
Oregon State Police are investigating a shooting during the evening rush hour on I-5 near Tualatin.
The shooting happened around 5:15 p.m. Tuesday in the southbound lanes near Nyberg Road. A trooper stopped 59-year-old James Beaver in a blue GMC van for a vehicle license violation. The trooper determined the driver had a suspended license, so he ordered a tow truck to impound the van.
When the tow truck arrived just before 6 p.m., the trooper returned to the van to find the driver with a gunshot wound to his neck and a handgun lying on the front seat.
(snipped, more @ link)
Just a follow up to the stepmom2kids post (the not Red Squirrel post). At the end of that thread there was a follow up by stepmom2kids that showed an evolution in her feelings that some might find worth reading.
Posted by stepmom2kids on Sat, Mar 13, 10 at 18:35
“I hate my step kid too.” ~snip
Posted by stepmom2kids on Fri, Nov 11, 11 at 19:08
“Hi, I posted on here a long time ago, I think my comment was an example of one of the ugliest sides of humanity. What happens when a person really falls away from love and light. I must tell you from my personal experience, it does get so much better.” ~snip
The link won’t post here. If interested, you will have to go to Sassi’s June 15, 2012, 08:54:48 AM post on SM to find it.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9941.msg1529836#msg1529836
For you, Meg:
Link to the letter at the Wall of Hope
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8203.100
lyla says: July 1, 2012 at 1:41 pm
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Oregon is a no-fault divorce state. Why Can’t they just file, have the financials negotiated, and proceed with the divorce? Why “evidence” of any wrong doing would have to come into play is something I don’t understand.
Here’s my guess based on the links I provided before and my experience with a number of divorces in my family – including an RO for one and custody disputes.
In Oregon you can state that irreconcilable differences have led to the divorce and no one is at fault – or really, both are at fault, but fault isn’t pursued by the court. This kind of fault is more of a social agreement, IMO.
This does not mean that if someone tries to burn down your house, for example, or they intentionally wreck your car and ask for another vehicle, that you have to turn around and give it to them in a divorce settlement without an argument before the judge. In other words, I think the court can take other things into consideration, including acts of violence, but you’d have to ask an attorney to be sure.
What I DO know is that if there is a disagreement about custody, both parents can be subject to much more scrutiny by the court. TH did not want to give up her parental rights, including the right to ask for custody and visitation later, but she also did not want to take psychological exams, release medical records, and be subject to any other discovery that might be relevant. She wanted an abatement for part of the divorce case. Kaine apparently said no – just abate the whole thing. Why would he do that? Well, IMO, it limits her somewhat she is still married to him, unless she wants to just walk away from everything. It also may continue her on his medical insurance – would be interesting to know. And, if she were arrested and convicted and ended up in prison for life, it would change the balance of what she needed in a divorce settlement – but I don’t see Kaine doing it for that reason. I think he, and possibly LE, were trying to keep as close tabs as possible on her. There is no divorce or formal separation, therefore, technically, he might have a say about some things that he wouldn’t otherwise. (Don’t ask what – just thinking aloud.)
The divorce and a criminal case could be handled separately, theoretically, but some of the discovery used to determine if someone is a fit parent could be related to the criminal acts that are being investigated and visa versa. The RO could be and really is a separate order that can continue whether or not a divorce occurs. The basis for it happens to relate to both issues, however. Bottom line, there is no actual criminal case right now. It’s the investigation and discovery that’s gumming up the works, so to speak.
January says:
July 1, 2012 at 3:32 pm
lyla says: July 1, 2012 at 1:41 pm
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Oregon is a no-fault divorce state. Why Can’t they just file, have the financials negotiated, and proceed with the divorce? Why “evidence” of any wrong doing would have to come into play is something I don’t understand.
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If Terri is a danger to Kiara and custody is an issue in the divorce proceedings then the danger Terri poses may have to wait to be exposed through the divorce proceedings in order not to reveal evidence from the criminal investigation.
Also, if evidence exists that Terri had money hidden or saved then Kaine may want to use that information in the divorce proceedings. If LE is investigating that money trail in relation to criminal activities then they would want as much time to continue their investigation before the civil suit proceeds.
These are just possible scenarios but maybe Kaine doesn’t want to give Terri one penny or belonging or visitation with Kiara more than he has to so proceeding with the divorce before he can expose all the reasons why she shouldn’t have any of that would not be to his benefit.
I can see Terri agreeing to it out of embarrassment… it’s possible she isn’t in any hurry for the public to know the lurid details of her life.
@Idahogal
What always puzzled me was how fast Kaine believed the MFH and how he got himself and Kiara
Out of there
Did he believe she was violent
How could he trust her with children for years
Here is what I hate to think about
When you live with a person
You see and hear the real side of them
Did she talk and act violent
Throwing things ,hitting ,threats and so on
I wonder
Then I believe they asked for a medical evaluation on her
And she withdrew
Correct me if I am wrong
Some body
@January says:
July 1, 2012 at 3:32 pm
lyla says: July 1, 2012 at 1:41 pm
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“Oregon is a no-fault divorce state. Why Can’t they just file, have the financials negotiated, and proceed with the divorce? Why “evidence” of any wrong doing would have to come into play is something I don’t understand.”
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You put it much simpler than I did January. My question is how long can they keep delaying the divorce proceedings..indefinately? What has to happen to move it forward?
IMO I don’t think Terri took Kyron but I don’t think she should be with Kaira until
Until she is ready to be eval by a Dr
And shows interest in getting on her feet
Again
To sit 2 years in silence and not work
At your parents place
Doesn’t seem healthy
IMO
any more on James Beaver? Portland relatives?
Amy’s Sister says:
July 1, 2012 at 4:52 pm
I can see Terri agreeing to it out of embarrassment… it’s possible she isn’t in any hurry for the public to know the lurid details of her life.
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Maybe Kaine is not to anxious to reveal some of the lurid details of his life either
cd says:
July 1, 2012 at 8:12 pm
Amy’s Sister says:
July 1, 2012 at 4:52 pm
I can see Terri agreeing to it out of embarrassment… it’s possible she isn’t in any hurry for the public to know the lurid details of her life.
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Maybe Kaine is not to anxious to reveal some of the lurid details of his life either
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A very real possibility, CD. Something I’ve considered from the beginning.
@Malty. Your comments are unique & appreciated.
Imo someone LE states “is under investigation for violent crimes” cannot get a job.
I foresee no employment until LE “clears” her. Houze will have to sue for that someday.
I think Kaine will cease making public statements after a final divorce. I think the one in need of a psychological in the custody dispute is Kaine, but for whatever reason Meisenheimer kept the case and he has to date not
displayed impartiality.
Isn’t is true that anyone can get a RO on anyone if the defendant is not in court to object?
Would the abatement be postponed because TH is silent wrt the allegations, and KH has hope to use the divorce to proffer information he believes she has about Kyron?
KH does not want to settle until he finds out what she knows, in the mean time he has their child, house, assets, et al. Being legally married is the one string he still has.
She does not want to settle if she has to talk. Is it because she is guilty or that she will not be believed or that she has crimes of another nature? What ever it is, she must think that after she spills “it” her situation with her child would not improve.
A judge cannot force a divorce to move ahead, in fact, I don’t think a judge can force a divorce at all. One of the spouses must provide the momentum.
The civil case has now become the vehicle in which KH and DY expect to get answers. KH used the term “we” when discussing DY’s civil case, when he was clearly not on the documents. Are KH and DY “attacking” separately to keep from muddying the legal waters?
She never has to talk, and she has already lost everything. May be time for an incentive, instead of hardball.
No, not exparte- some judges rarely will hear them and will r/s it out to give the respondent time.
In this case though, based on the known facts at the time and the wording, etc, it was right imo, to do so.
If the goal is answers they do not have, I am stumped as to why Skyline was not named in the suit.
B
MOO.
JMO – but WHERE was this guy on 06/04/2010??
Man grabs kid, tries to sexually assault him in a Wendy’s bathroom
PORTLAND, Ore. – A registered sex offender barricaded himself inside a Wendy’s restaurant on Sunday after police say he grabbed a 10-year-old boy, pulled him into a restroom, tried to sexually assault the child and then stabbed the boy when he began fighting back.
The incident began around 2 p.m. at the Wendy’s at Northeast 29th and Sandy Boulevard.
According to police, the suspect was standing outside a restroom when a 10-year-old walked up to go to the bathroom. The man forced the boy inside, locked the door and attempted a sexual assault. The boy fought back and the man pulled out a knife, stabbing him several times.
The boy’s father tried to open the door but had to get the manager to unlock it. At that point, the man opened the door, shoved the boy outside and then locked himself inside the restroom. Some people who were in the restaurant held the door shut until police arrived.
When officers got there and tried to talk to the suspect, the man claimed he had a gun and that’s when crisis negotiators and SERT officers were called to the scene. The immediate area was cleared and police set up a perimeter. After a couple of hours of talking to crisis negotiators, the suspect came out and surrendered to police without incident.
[more @ link]
http://www.katu.com/news/local/Man-barricaded-inside-a-Wendys-bathroom-10-year-old-injured-161017355.html
PORTLAND — After a man stabbed a boy in the restroom of a Northeast Portland Wendy’s restaurant, patrons called police and held the door shut so the suspect couldn’t escape.
Police were called just after 2 p.m. to the report of a stabbing at the restaurant, in the 2900 block of NE Sandy Boulevard, according to Sgt. Pete Simpson of the Portland Police Bureau.
“Officers learned that a 10-year-old boy went into the bathroom and the suspect, a male in his 40s not known to the victim, pulled a knife on the boy and cut him,” Simpson said. “The boy came out of the bathroom bleeding and restaurant patrons held the bathroom door shut until police arrived.”
[more @ link]
http://www.kgw.com/news/Stabbing-suspect-hiding-in-NE-Portland-restroom-161014095.html
This is not our guy, but how frightening is that?
Parents: In the event of a single restroom with a locking door, if you are not going to go inside with your child, you need to check it first, and then wait outside.
Take the opportunities to discuss the issue when you can, it has come to that I am afraid.
B
UPDATE:
PORTLAND — A 10-year-old was assaulted with a knife in a Northeast Portland Wendy’s restroom by a man police said was a registered sex offender. Adam Lee Brown, 49, was arrested after he let the wounded boy go, and patrons pushed against the bathroom door, blocking his escape.
Brown was accused of attempted murder, four counts of first-degree assault, first-degree sex abuse, first-degree kidnapping, first-degree arson, coercion, and furnishing false information to a police officer.
The child was taken to a hospital and underwent surgery for his injuries, said Sgt. Pete Simpson. The boy’s injuries would have been life-threatening had he not received immediate attention.
Officers learned that Brown was outside the restroom door and the boy was headed there when he was reportedly grabbed and forced into the bathroom, Simpson said. Brown then tried to sexually assault the boy, who started fighting back, Simpson said.
During the struggle, the boy was stabbed multiple times. The boy’s father tried to open the restroom door, but it was locked from the inside. A manager brought a key, then Brown unlocked the door and pushed the boy out.
When police arrived, patrons were holding the door shut, trapping Brown inside, and were told to evacuate the restaurant. Brown told police he had a gun, so the SERT team was activated. He surrendered without incident after about about two hours, Simpson said.
Police found a knife in the restroom believed to be used in the attack. No gun was found.
http://www.kgw.com/news/Stabbing-suspect-hiding-in-NE-Portland-restroom-161014095.html
http://articles.latimes.com/1992-12-06/news/mn-3360_1_adam-brown
Roseburg Oregon 1992….Is this the same Adam Brown?
Yep. He was convicted in 1993 and he was supposed to be under supervised parole- which he apparently previously violated so wth was he not listed as an absconder and the public warned?
This man is and was a highly dangerous offender. I want to see his psych eval allowing him out of the joint- this is just outrageous.
B
What is clear, is the only thing quieter about Kyron than Terri is the school.
erose says:
July 2, 2012 at 4:57 am
snip>
No, not exparte- some judges rarely will hear them and will r/s it out to give the respondent time.
In this case though, based on the known facts at the time and the wording, etc, it was right imo, to do so.
If the goal is answers they do not have, I am stumped as to why Skyline was not named in the suit.
B
quizzical says:
July 1, 2012 at 2:00 pm
Just a follow up to the stepmom2kids post (the not Red Squirrel post). At the end of that thread there was a follow up by stepmom2kids that showed an evolution in her feelings that some might find worth reading.
Posted by stepmom2kids on Sat, Mar 13, 10 at 18:35
“I hate my step kid too.” ~snip
Posted by stepmom2kids on Fri, Nov 11, 11 at 19:08
“Hi, I posted on here a long time ago, I think my comment was an example of one of the ugliest sides of humanity. What happens when a person really falls away from love and light. I must tell you from my personal experience, it does get so much better.” ~snip
The link won’t post here. If interested, you will have to go to Sassi’s June 15, 2012, 08:54:48 AM post on SM to find it.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9941.msg1529836#msg1529836
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@Quizzical and Sassifrass on SM – I appreciate your help, but that is not the email I am thinking of. The one reposted on the Hinky Meter was very hateful, and the referenced stepchild was not a tween that rarely saw his Dad. Also, IIRC the author was Red Squirrel, which is what brought it to Valhall’s attention in the first place.
I’m sure if it had any relation to TH that LE would know about it. I’m putting this one to bed. Thanks again for all of your help, I am not a member at SM, so I would have missed this completely if not for Quizzical.
These kids are really fighting back. This reads like a 10 year old stabbed in the line of duty. How extremely sad, but good at the same time. To me it shows the kids are being educated about their rights to their own bodies and not to comply with adults, if adults are doing something wrong.
My son went w/me (when Dad wasn’t with us) to the ladies room up until he complained. Then we had a talk. I still stood outside of the men’s room, for awhile, and if he took too long I would say his name inside of the door and he knew I expected a response. I also took note who went in and who went out.
I was vigilant, and in some circles considered paranoid, and I knew statistically would probably never happen to him, but I am mathematical that way. But in general, it’s not a one in a million chance, it’s one out of 6 boys molested in their lifetime (and 1 in 3 girls). Granted most do not occur in public restrooms, but I figured if I was inconvenienced a little bit everyday, I might prevent years of pain and suffering. (An Ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure, is how I was raised.) It was a small effort to do my best for the sake of his safety.
When I wrote, I stood by the restroom door “for awhile” I meant for the years before I thought he could begin defend himself. For those years, I stood by the entire time, to be clear. I was his body guard.
@Ode says:
July 2, 2012 at 10:28 am
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Blink … speechless…
A predatory sex offender whose parole barred him from frequenting places where children regularly congregate is scheduled for arraignment Monday afternoon in Multnomah County Court in connection with a sexual assault and stabbing Sunday afternoon in Northeast Portland.
He is being held under a $2 million bond. Brown, whose parole expires in 2020 was also wanted for an outstanding parole violation warrant.He was convicted of three counts of felony sodomy in 1993.
Brown’s arraignment is set for 2:30 p.m.
-oregonian.com
As of November 2010, Brown was a listed as a predatory sex offender in Multnomah County. According to the SO registry at the time, he lived on Alder St. in Portland. His current address is “jail”. Maybe now they’ll keep him there! (I can hope.) Why was this sick F ever let of of jail?