Kyron Horman Missing Case Breaking News: Remains Believed To Be Human Located Off Sauvie Island
Sauvie Island, Oregon-There are unconfirmed reports that a teenage boy fishing off of Sauvie Island located a human skull, and potentially other human body parts.
Update 1: As referenced on KOIN, a teenage fisherman believes he snagged a scalp with human hair attached, which he originally thought was horse hair. Columbia County detectives cordoned off the scene last evening and MCSO dive teams entered the water but found nothing. The possible “hair” was sent for testing.
Multnomah County Sheriff Office will not comment on the find, or confirm whether their office has facilitated the removal of same, or forwarded any items to the medical examiner for testing.
Following the disappearance of Kyron Horman, Sauvie Island has been the subject of repeated searchers for the missing Skyline second grader with no results.
It is also the former home of a man considered to be Federal fugitive following a confrontation with a Lincoln City officer with nearly fatal results. Officer Steven Dodds was able to return to duty after extensive rehabilitation.
Durham was a Sauvie Island resident for over 6 years and a volunteer fire fighter until he was removed from duty 6 months prior to the shooting.
David Durham’s dog was recovered injured following what appeared to be an accident in the suspects vehicle and is being cared for by a friend of the family. Mr. Durham has not been seen since his vehicle was recovered in the bay town of Waldport, Oregon.
Please check back to www.blinkoncrime.com for updates to this breaking story.
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LOL, I like, erose, have never seen it verified one way or the other. So now at least we know she is not his wife. Thanks.
So, okay is Elsy RS’s brother’s wife? I think his name was Jaime. (RS’s brother with the carpet cleaning business.) I need a refresher, or maybe just a refreshment
Maybe she was his “companion” and the children belong to both of them?
Rudy was very buff.
Where does he work out, then and now?
Amys Sister says:
July 14, 2012 at 1:14 am
Have you noticed that not a single parent, child or “other” witness has come forward publicly?
There is a reason.
B
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Blink … I’m likely missing something between the lines here, but can you reveal what reason actually is because I honestly don’t don’t get it. My guess is that whoever witnessed SZ is afraid, because that’s all I can come up with, but if true, WHY exactly are they afraid? People are witnesses to crimes everyday and go to the police.
I keep hearing about the South Entrance at Skyline School. Is this the entrance he was seen walking toward with SZ? Is there any particular reason he would leave through the South Entrance i.e. was it secluded from the main parking lot?
The last name Sanchez is a common Hispanic name. Could Elsy Leonor Mejia-Sanchez be RS’s girlfriend/companion and just happen to share the last name? I am probably way off but just wondered.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2012/05/rod_underhill_–_multnomah_cou.html
Reading about Underhill’s past on the job, and “priorities” in above url.
imo he wants to replicate past successes similar to this case. That is, imo he personally wants to try TMH and needed in the past neither a body nor a certain level of evidence. An evidentiary “hook” will do: in the past, phone records. Imo it would be out of character for him to pass the investigation on to FBI without parental outcry and community outcry would likely harden him. Tunnel vision can come from a provincial outlook: never leaving one’s town to live elsewhere awhile, knowing only one job site & supervisor throughout adulthood.
Kaine & Desiree jointly have the funds to hire a Lou Schmitt. I do not see how Kaine can want to advance the case
and trade off the mfh for a poly until the divorce is done & his assets secure.
justice23 says:
July 15, 2012 at 9:29 pm
Amys Sister says:
July 14, 2012 at 1:14 am
Have you noticed that not a single parent, child or “other” witness has come forward publicly?
There is a reason.
B
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I would offer ‘other’ would leave only a school employee. If a teacher, administrator, or facility employee actually witnessed (and at the time thought little of it) Kyron in the company of an adult outside the school or even perhaps entering a vehicle, then some liability and or culpability could be implied and feared. If said school employee has privately relayed this info to LE then obviously liability would not be the concern, but that community panic and or outrage would ensue. Neither is a valid ‘reason’ to limit the scope of the investigation. Quite the contrary IMO.
Bless this child and ALL victims of deranged animals. Sheesh..I just don’t get it.
Was thinking about why Desiree (and Kaine) are not suing the school. Perhaps one of the witnesses, a child, was actually told by Kyron that his mom (Terri) was having someone else pick him up at the school that day. I know at least one child testified before the GJ. Can’t remember the age, but I think the child was quite young and IIRC, testified alone, without a parent. Which I thought was very strange.
Maybe this was the information he/she conveyed to the GJ. If so, then it lets the school off the hook, and would explain why Desiree & Kaine keep saying that Terri knows who took Kyron and why LE also thinks Terri knows. For some reason, this just came to my mind this morning, after two years, LOL. However, if this were the case, wouldn’t Terri be arrested?
@justice23 says:
July 15, 2012 at 9:29 pm
Maybe what you’re missing is that the witnesses have gone to the police, they just haven’t gone public with the information (perhaps at the request of the police) and of course the police haven’t been public about much of anything. Just thinking.
richard ecker’s latest interest. joined 4.25.12:
http://207.58.129.233/~rotary/forum/member.php?u=17681
I’ve thought for a long time now that the medicinal marijuana that is grown in the area has been a haven for drug cartel’s from Mexico. There have been several “gardens” found in the area.
I think TH got mixed up with them, maybe even thought she was “smarter” than they are and Kyron ended up paying the ultimate price for her.
If I were a local, I’d be very afraid to speak up about SZ, or at least I wouldn’t talk about it with anyone other than LE.
I still am not sure how LE can keep saying this was an isolated incident and I would be up in arms about my child’s safety if I was a parent in that school.
I’ve got a horrible feeling there will never be recovery and, like Blink, think this will be unsolvable without one. After all this time though I’m not even sure how much evidence could be obtained if a recovery were made.
Thoughts and prayers are with Kyron, his brothers, sister, friends and classmates
Amys Sister says:
July 14, 2012 at 1:14 am
Have you noticed that not a single parent, child or “other” witness has come forward publicly?
There is a reason.
B
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I think that witnesses have been told by LE not to talk about what they did or did not see on June 4 or somehow get in trouble for interfering with the investigation. Why who saw what would need to be such a big secret is beyond me. I also don’t think that there are that many witnesses that saw anything.
Maybe Desiree’s lawsuit will get some people to open up about what they saw ( if there ever is a trial ). JMO
To refresh memories. (Before TH became a “defacto suspect”)Published June 6,2010
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/still_no_trace_of_kyron_horman.html
@justice23 says:
July 15, 2012 at 9:29 pm
Amys Sister says:
July 14, 2012 at 1:14 am
Have you noticed that not a single parent, child or “other” witness has come forward publicly?
There is a reason.
B
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Could be investigators have asked them not to discuss case details with anyone.
I completely agree that witness safety has to be a priority. The situation is just so frustrating. Not personal, just the whole darn situation. IMO, no one can come forward and admit there is a SZ. Not MSCO, not bio parents, no one. They can’t reveal that there was a SZ, because it would be known that someone obviously told them about SZ, and who would tell them? Witnesses. Full circle. So, IMO, we have to put admitting the presence of SZ aside for now, right?
If we move on from that point, we have what Blink said in this snip from yesterday – “Fwiw, I believe strongly that if MCSO were to request the FBI handle this case, or either one of Ky’s parents, it would move forward.
B”
More frustration. IMO, MCSO needs to put on their big boy underpants and ask the FBI to take the case (as Blink reccomended). Kyron needs to be found. This is outrageous. I want to pull my hair out – but I’m at work, so I won’t.
Thank you Jeff D, T Ruth, cd and lyla for helping to clear up my confusion on the witness matter. I completely overlooked Blink’s ‘other’ detail at first which would make sense I guess if the witness was possibly a school-related employee.
FWIW though, I still think, regardless of who witnessed Ky leaving with SZ that Skyline still has some culpability, no matter how you slice it. He was in their care that day, for the most part during school hours when it’s believed to have happened, with God knows how many other potential strangers and unknown people walking around at the science fair that day which Skyline invited by broadcasting the event to the public on it’s sign. If our school district did that, I think I’d be calling the school pronto with some major concerns on my part, but that’s just me. I have always believed that Skyline from the very beginning has basically been operating under a CYA kind of policy ever since this happened. God Bless Sweet Kyron, wherever he may be.
I wish I could get past this question….Kyron was supposed to be in a Talent Show the day he was last seen. Why didn’t any of Kyron’s parents come to the school to see him in the Talent Show. Terry was home, Kaine was home.
@erose says:
July 15, 2012 at 2:42 pm
(snipped)
“I think part of the sophistication of the crime against Kyron was the perp knew the workings of LE enough to not only put them off the track, but on a different track. Again, JMO.”
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erose, do you think someone in LE is involved in Kyron’s disappearance?
Just some guesswork here – from my own research, I’m not an attorney. This does assume there is at least one active journalist left in Portland. I am also assuming that Houze would handle her response to this even if another attorney was brought in to help with the issues of the civil case.
If Houze had a clear cut way to ask for dismissal of the civil case, he would have responded with that argument, and the media would have written about it.
If Houze wanted to object to anything stated in what Desiree’s attorney filed, but not ask for a dismissal, he would have had to present something to the judge to back that up, and the media would have written that he did that.
If Houze has nothing and really does not want the case to go to trial, he could do nothing and take his chances that the judge will review what Desiree presented and dismiss the case, or that the judge will rule against Terri and order a reasonable judgment which would avoid having anyone testify, including Terri. Houze does not seem to be the sort of person who leaves anything to chance, so the option of not responding and then accepting whatever the judge rules without a chance to challenge that seems unlikely to me unless he really has nothing else he can do.
If Houze wanted to delay the trial based on the ongoing investigation, it is my understanding from what I’ve read that he would have to respond within the 30 days, actually go to a hearing, and then present his reasons for asking for a delay to the judge to rule on that. It seems the trial would have to start before it could be declared delayed. Whether that’s true, or whether he could just present it to a judge for a ruling, the media would have written about anything that becomes public record.
If Houze wanted to respond but ask the judge to seal the documents, the fact that he filed something would still be available, and the media would report that.
I have not seen anywhere that you can ask for an extension of time to respond. I cannot imagine such a request being acceptable unless the person was somehow unable to make a decision – in a coma, for example – but even then you wouldn’t need an extension since, IMO, a person who is incapacitated and unable to act on their own behalf couldn’t really be served unless it was acceptable to serve a representative with complete power of attorney (including finances). In other words, the 30 days starts when the person is properly served.
It appears that once again, Houze has skipped an opportunity to declare his client innocent either indirectly through the media accessing court documents or directly to the media in a press statement.
Did I miss any options in my list?
I was looking back at some old Kyron reports and found this post in one of the comments.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/06/14/earlyshow/main6580409.shtml?tag=contentMain;contentBody
“One of the people in my old choir wrote that she used to babysit the boy, and this whole thing has made a mess of her with worry. I hope they find him, but after 10 days he could be anywhere by now.”
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I only bring it up because we’ve all wondered about Kyron’s past babysitters and about whether or not the Horman’s may have regularly attended a church. Doesn’t mean they did, but since this babysitter was in a church choir, makes me wonder if that’s how she knew them and which church it may have been. Has anyone ever found out about any churches or babysitters and I just missed it?
4. People, go after the landscaper, he is the key.
B
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/07/12/kyron-horman-missing-and-endangered-kaine-horman-accuses-terri-of-contempt-with-michael-cook/comment-page-5/#comments
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@Blink, A lot of time has passed since you made the above statement. Do you still think the landscaper is the key? The key to finding Kyron?
If so, may I ask why? If he is not SZ, do you think he knows who SZ is? Or do you think he’s key because he’s lying about the MFH?
join Rod Underhill tonight at a public discussion forum on community policing priorities:
http://www.greshamchamber.org/calendar.php?month=July+2012&date=2012-07-17
what was happening with multnomah county and the DA inMarch 2009?
http://www.google.com/search?q=unsolved+cases+2009+multnomah+county&btnG=&hl=en&client=safari&tbo=d&sa=2
According to urls on this page, obtained by googling unsolved cases multnomah county underhill, Rod Underhill and mcso were making announcements that Match that 8 of 10 cold homicidecases would be re-tackled and a Cold Case Unit was to be set up within MCSO for that purpose. Wonder if 1 of the 8 perps in those cold cases was motivated to divert MCSO & Underhill resources, detectives & all, and wipe out the mcso budget for 8 cold homicide cases a couple months later?
Rudy was involved in a messed up sting on Terri by LE. Rudy came to collect money. Collect money for what? Did he say that he had decided to carry out her wishes to off Kaine, and that he needed money? Did he say that he had hired someone and that now they needed money? Had he hired someone? Had he talked with someone about doing it?
I keep going back to Elsy as I want her disappearance to stop nagging me. We don’t know who she is, but we believe she is related (in some way) to Rudy, Jamie (adult) and/or Ubaldo (adult). Her children’s names are also Jamie and Ubaldo. If Rudy was planning something with regards to Kyron and shared it with Jamie and/or Ubaldo (or anyone) and Elsy overheard something that frightened her, maybe that is why she left.
When background checks were done on Rudy, does anyone know if children’s names came up?
He saw them, it would not be anonymous. Respectfully can we get past the need to be right and into reality? Again, that is not what you said, their was no mention of anonymous, and again, a child if a child were so inclined can’t come forward at all. You do not know who saw him and under what set of circumstances so would that not be critical in making such a decision?
B
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Amys Sister says:
July 10, 2012 at 10:57 am
“I would be going public. How can doing so possibly hurt the investigation in any way? I’ve said it before, how would my child be in any danger just by giving a description of this guy? **Me or my child’s identity would never need to be revealed**”
Not in anyway trying to be right, Blink. Just trying to work it out in my own head. I’m in reality. Fully.
You’re right, none of us know who saw him. How much does that matter? Several people saw him in a crowded environment (I’m assuming, maybe it was not in a crowded environment, even if it wasn’t how would he know or recognize who saw him unless he is familiar with the locals?). ‘Someone’ who no one seems to want to publicly acknowledge even exists. Isn’t that ultimately giving him all the power?
I’m not asking you to make me understand, I’m not arguing with you. Just thoughts going through my head is all.
That is all I can ask for, much appreciated. I was responding to you saying that you would go public if your child were a witness and reacted, if that was part of your “thinking out loud” I soooo get that.
No, not giving any power, protecting witnesses. Keep in mind- KH and DY know this, and have since the beginning.
B
@January
January says:
July 17, 2012 at 3:14 pm
(snipped) “Rudy was involved in a messed up sting on Terri by LE. Rudy came to collect money. Collect money for what? Did he say that he had decided to carry out her wishes to off Kaine, and that he needed money? Did he say that he had hired someone and that now they needed money? Had he hired someone? Had he talked with someone about doing it?”
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I think RS blew the whistle on TH by demanding $$$$ from TH to keep his mouth shut re the mfh. TH didn’t bite and refused to talk. She placed a 911 call complaining of being threatened. The sting did indeed backfire much to LE’s chagrin.
IDK. MM does resemble ex-LEO, and a “Sandusky” type in that they would would worship him, perhaps in denial. Not necessarily LE, though, just someone that understands the protocols. What would they do if this happened, how would they respond to that. Perhaps even someone that knew how they would be scheduled that day wrt the funeral in Lake Oswego.
T. Ruth says:
July 17, 2012 at 12:56 pm
@erose: “I think part of the sophistication of the crime against Kyron was the perp knew the workings of LE enough to not only put them off the track, but on a different track. Again, JMO.”
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@T.Ruth: “erose, do you think someone in LE is involved in Kyron’s disappearance?”
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Back to the ex-LE pilot with a similar last name to Horman. He would have firsthand knowledge of the workings of LE, lived on SI, would be aware of the funeral that day, and resembles the man in SF photo who was also called out by the Mayor asking about his identity. Could have blended in with mainstream SF attendees. LE would not call him out until they have solid evidence. We have knowledge of things we wish we didn’t…
Is there any conx between him and DAD?
Would someone kindly post the SZ description once again?
Okay, I’m wondering how this case would move forward if turned over to the FBI. What is MCSO holding back? Former LE culpability?
I’m trying to figure out what good it would do for the case if LE were to publicly release a generic description of SZ. Actually, it might be detrimental to their case particulary if they don’t have sufficient or no evidence to link anyone to the crime. Folks would come down hot and heavy on the school also. I don’t think they’re quite ready to stir the pot.
Yes.
B
@January says:
July 17, 2012 at 3:14 pm
(snipped)
Rudy was involved in a messed up sting on Terri by LE. Rudy came to collect money. Collect money for what? Did he say that he had decided to carry out her wishes to off Kaine, and that he needed money? Did he say that he had hired someone and that now they needed money? Had he hired someone? Had he talked with someone about doing it?
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JMO, but I always figured the demand for the $10K that was set up by LE via RS, was *hush* money. Blackmail. IOW, they went to Terri’s door and Rudy said, Hey, Terri, remember how you wanted me to take out your ol’ man? Well, the cops have been questioning me, and if you don’t give me $10K, I’m gonna’ spill the beans.
It makes sense, because Terri’s 911 call, which was apparently public enough at one time to be listed, was listed as “threats”. I mean would she be so stupid as to call 911 if in fact she’d actually attempted to hire this guy and then report him as a threat? What other threat could Rudy have been using?
Whatever the heck happened during that sting, it couldn’t have incriminated Terri because she would be in jail right?
I’m brain dead right now, but wasn’t it true that Houze couldn’t even get access to the 911 calls which are usually public record?
protecting witnesses means he knows them, or can remember their faces–adult or child.
Makes me think he DID “chaperone” (falsely) a “group” with Kyron in it for a wee while.
Those group children are the best witnesses, and ones he’d most likely remember.
Kaine & Desiree have lost all credibility with me due solely to how they’ve played this out.
Nothing to do with the abduction, but imo also nothing to do with the remedy, but rather to
distract, diffuse, delay forcing MCSO to be held accountable.
Yes it would do no good to release generic desiption?
or
Yes, folks would come down on school?
or
Yes, it would stir the pot prematurely?
or
Yes, not enough evidence for more?
hello, Lea. Do civil de novo appeals still exist in OR?
http://www.osbar.org/publications/bulletin/06may/stantique.html
Protecting witnesses to me means he is at extremely high risk to offend again and can do so easily and in the same area if he so chooses.
The idea that the perp may be someone from LE actually makes sense after reading your posts TRuth Erose Jden.
Like they know who took Kyron? So the witness is a child? And they need an adult to confirm? They need proof?
@Amys Sister says:July 17, 2012 at 4:46 pmo,
not giving any power, protecting witnesses. Keep in mind- KH and DY know this, and have since the beginning.
B
Like KH and DY know who took Kyron? So the witness is a child? And they need an adult to confirm? They need proof? So LE knows, too, and is just waiting for a slip-up?
Did I read somewhere about TMH being involved with a LE officer (putting something in the trunk of a car)? Sorry, don’t have the link, but it was here somewhere….
Thinking out loud.
@Amys Sister says:July 17, 2012 at 4:46 pmo,
not giving any power, protecting witnesses. Keep in mind- KH and DY know this, and have since the beginning.
B
@Rose says:
July 17, 2012 at 6:16 pm
“protecting witnesses means he knows them, or can remember their faces–adult or child.
Makes me think he DID “chaperone” (falsely) a “group” with Kyron in it for a wee while.
Those group children are the best witnesses, and ones he’d most likely remember.”
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This is EXACTLY what I was thinking today. I’ve been sitting here googling “who was Kyron’s chaperone?” and googling blinkoncrime kyron chaperone, but I couldn’t find a verified answer.
Can you imagine the amount of tips MCSO would receive if they released a “generic” description? Chaos.
@MockingbirdSings says:
July 17, 2012 at 12:57 pm
Thanks MbS. (LOL at your comment about the journalists.)
I found this, when I searched Rosenthal:
Young Desiree/Horman Terri Multnomah 10/13/12 12:00 ICMC INIT CASE MGMT CONF 120606956 Hearing Status Check
Houze is apparently on another case in another county as of 10/12/12, which is as far out as I see for Houze. Doesn’t mean she isn’t going to be represented by a different attorney I guess. Anyone know exactly what a “hearing status check” is?
https://portal.courts.oregon.gov/egov/portal/!ut/p/c5/hY1bDoIwFETX4gJMr7yUzwooKC3UFsT-kCYaA5FHIsHA6q0LUGc-T84Mkki3VWN1V0PVteqBCiSdMk52ricCgOSQ2hAFgjqMcAOOtuYXp_T2OLTWseZGDmBQmzPIuAmR-cc-owKsktebnkxDEc_eKOqZTcRX5tNnQASeqJum1_yUbbEvl8Gq1Y78rP76_HD4EgyIhl1zQ32TjX34WrwBQ5BUyA!!/dl3/d3/L0lDU0lKSmdwcGlTQS9JUFNBQ0lpTXlDb2tBSUFtaWdZWVFPNCEvNEMxYjlXX05yMGdDVWdpSkg0QSEvN19MT0Y5Q1RFMDBPSlA1MElFVE42UU1TMjBDNi83YVVfTDIwMTkwMDk2LzIwMzc4OTQwMTQ2Ng!!/
Hmmm…protecting witnesses….valid maybe in light of SZ’s unknown whereabouts and ID unknown, but what’s up with that anyway?…This guy is not a ghost, he can’t just disappear. They all leave a trail. Tell me they do Blink.
They do. I cannot say we see it all the time, but they always do. Always.
B
SH is also BrianP father and iirc Tanners step grandfather, retired LEO 1999, looks like mystery man who was called out by the mayor, has a houseboat On SI, is a pilot for Horizon Air… would have known the workings of LE, would have known about the funeral that day, possibly would have been at the school any number of times previous to the science fair date with his grandson. Would have blended in to the science fair given that he is known in the community. Would have called Kyron by name.
Could it be that our child witness saw Kyron leave the school with his own grandfather? The witness that was told not to speak to the press but whose grandmother allowed him to.
Is it possible that TH took a picture of SH at the SF on June 3 and then photoshopped Kyron into the picture before posting online on Jun 4?
Is SH Internet smart? I would think anyone in LE would be.
Now, about that stolen GPS…
And can we connect RS to SH? Or does Blink still believe RS is the key? Remember, a key opens the door.
Rose says:
July 17, 2012 at 6:16 pm
protecting witnesses means he knows them, or can remember their faces–adult or child.
Makes me think he DID “chaperone” (falsely) a “group” with Kyron in it for a wee while.
Those group children are the best witnesses, and ones he’d most likely remember.
Kaine & Desiree have lost all credibility with me due solely to how they’ve played this out.
Nothing to do with the abduction, but imo also nothing to do with the remedy, but rather to
distract, diffuse, delay forcing MCSO to be held accountable.
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Interesting idea, Rose. I thought once before that the story of Kyron being seen with a male chaperone and two girls should have been easy enough for LE to confirm. Just find the two girls who were seen with them. However, I am surprised the two girls were not able to give a more detailed description of the man. They would have had more than a glimpse of him.
I was reading back in comments on an earlier thread (please forgive me blink, I don’t have a link)around the time the cameras were installed at Skyline, and there was discussion of the fact that the cameras have facial recognition technology. There was the theory that LE had enough of a description that the cameras would be programmed to recognize SZ should he return, in which case LE should have enough of a description to release (but I understand protecting minors, especially if they don’t think releasing the likeness would generate leads).
Just thinking: TH’s quick turn to 911 to report the “sting” IMO showed a “confidence” in turning to LE. I wonder: Did she have some connections there? Was there someone she “dealt” with who was/ is LE? She was no stranger to dialing 911. Maybe someone who was “helping” her “rescue” or”remove” Ky? Again, just thinking…and praying for a resolution.
@ Rose says:
July 17, 2012 at 6:16 pm
(snipped) “protecting witnesses means he knows them, or can remember their faces–adult or child.
Makes me think he DID “chaperone” (falsely) a “group” with Kyron in it for a wee while.”
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“I left the school at 9 and he was seen with a man ‘chaperone’ and 2 girls after I left. There were no men on the chaperone list. That and it was highly chaotic – had to been 300 people running around – no coordination …”
http://www.katu.com/news/local/100323934.html
Well, the school knows who the chaperones are, because they would have assigned them. Was a LE person in the group, even a part-timer?
If, as Blink says, the landscaper is the key, then there is a connection between him and LE (like if he was some sort of protected witness, or whatever). So LE knows it is someone connected to the landscaper.
They must be just waiting for one final bit of information. Clever perp, probably reads here, is right on top of everything. Jden (7-17, 11:10 pm) writes about SH, who fits this description perfectly. Plus there’s that houseboat where the cadaver dogs scented that never went any farther. (I’ll have to go and find the list because I don’t remember who SH is)…
@39.VLH says: July 17, 2012 at 7:34 pm
@Rose says:July 17, 2012 at 6:16 pm
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This is EXACTLY what I was thinking today. I’ve been sitting here googling “who was Kyron’s chaperone?” and googling blinkoncrime kyron chaperone, but I couldn’t find a verified answer.
You’d think Mrs Porter would’ve noticed a “man” playing the role of chaperone with her class kids when a “man” reportedly was not on her chaperone list. Did she not accompany her class as a group leader on the tour? Teachers usually join the “field trip.” If she did, and had any capacity to notice anomalys, that’s one witness the system would protect.
Terri and Kaine probably got the info there was a male chaperone
from the school, not a parent or child.
Terri treated it as a credible report and repeated it.
The most likely source was a teacher.
a witness to the chaperone.
Imo if SZ “played chaperone,” there are pics somewhere with him in background.
If Kaine & Desiree have known since the beginning, so did Terri. And this is who
Terri mentioned, besides pointing the finger at RS. maybe LE indirectly saw to it
a pic was released via the Mayor.