Jodi Arias Trial: New Witnesses May Reveal Defense Strategy- Prosecution Omissions
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Phoenix, AZ- In a terse exchange prior to the hiatus in the Arias trial, the defense repeated their contention that they want The Honorable Sherry Stephens to order a directed verdict or a mistrial in the State’s case against Jodi Arias.
As reported exclusively by BOC it does seem the prosecution missed quite a bit of potential evidence including a possible motive- the duct tape around Travis’s right arm. Was it the final straw that made Jodi Arias snap as she was allegedly taking photos of Travis in the shower without his knowledge?
There was also an exparte hearing held in Judge Stephen’s chambers, however, the contents of those minutes have not yet been filed- although the docket suggests they have. The defense is now testing Jodi Arias’s canon camera for some undisclosed reason.
With the defense preparing to start its case next week in spite of the outstanding motions before the court- have the prosecution’s actions harmed their case?
The issue at the forefront seems to hinge on something that the prosecution never introduced- On Purpose, says Prosecutor Juan Martinez.
The prosecution’s very first witness, Maria Hall, who was the female friend attending the Cancun trip with Alexander on June 10th, told the court that Travis told her he had been stalked while on a date with another girl and had his tires slashed. The intimation before the court was clear regardless of the defense attempts to point out that Travis never said it was Jodi who was responsible.
Nancy Grace and Jane Velez Mitchell lit up their HLN evening roster discussing Arias’s stalker behavior with several associates of Alexander. Dr. Karl Hiatt said one Sunday he was told that he had his tires slashed and that it was possible that something might escalate and he may not show up for dinner as a result.
Outside the presence of the jury Juan Martinez argued that they did not call the witness who Travis was on that particular date with because he did not want to create “an inflammatory” situation for the jury causing an appellate issue.
However, Martinez also lets it slip that Lisa Andrews Daidone does not want to testify and the defense tells the judge the prosecution has withheld her contact information from them and THEY intend to call her. Daidone recently deleted her FB profile and other social media sites in her name.
Does it make any sense to anyone why a prosecutor would not call a witness who could place a dangerous weapon in the hands of a person committing a destructive and openly violent act who they allege is guilty of doing exactly that for exactly the same reasons in the instant case?
From Daidone’s bog entry in 2008:
”…So because Heavenly Father allowed this to happen, I have grown in such a way that I couldn’t have otherwise, or at least not as quickly. While if you asked me a few months from now if I could go back would I change it, I would say “Absolutely,” I’m not sure how much I would actually change about it. Of course I wouldn’t want Travis to be taken. I might even opt for Jodi to be popped instead. But who am I to decide the fate of the hundreds of people that have been effected by this? It’s hard
to say which way is better. Travis always talked about Opportunity Cost. He spoke of how his time could be used best, to benefit the maximum amount of people. I’m sure he wishes he could have done more while he was here, but I don’t think he regrets leaving. He is doing something amazing up in the Spirit World. I know it. I can feel it. He is continuing to learn and progress. He’s helping others to do the same. He is the same wonderful, creative, spontaneous, caring, gentle, driven, foe- paint-loving, show-tune-singing man that I fell in love with…”
Is it because in the 48 Hours Mystery program so frequently noted by the defense Detective Flores openly states there was no evidence whatsoever that Jodi was involved in that incident after he repeats his theory that Travis was shot first? Both these statements made by the lead detective in the case on national television directly conflict with the prosecution’s case as testified by Esteban Flores.
NO.
Is it because they already know who was responsible for the multiple tire slashing incidents and presenting that information might corroborate a story told to them by Arias in the past?
In her own words, Lisa Andrews Daidone began dating Travis Alexander in July 2007. According to the minutes filed from trial January 16th, the tire slashing incident was in December 2007, both Alexander and Andrew’s tires were slashed and the individual came to the front door . Martinez states Andrews will testify to these facts. Prior to dating Alexander, Daidone was dating a common friend and member of their Mormon ward- Steve Bell. Arias claims she and Travis began dating February 2, 2007.
Daidone will not go into how she and Travis began dating, or why, but there is a Steve Bell connected to this group that has had some serious troubles with the law immediately preceding the break up, and many following.
Could the mystery stalker have been on her end and NOT Arias? If so, you can bet the defense will be bringing that issue into court next week and providing the jury with this eye opening gem- expected to cause further problems with the State’s theory.
That’s not all, unfortunately.
Thomas Brown, a former roommate of Travis Alexander in the home of his murder, was interviewed up to three times by Detective Flores whereby he told them that Jodi had open access to the home when he was around and the Arias he knew was completely shy and somewhat awkwardly withdrawn. He was having a hard time picturing her do this without help and he told cops that.
He also told them something about Travis being shocked to get the call that Jodi Arias was standing outside the home the early morning hours of June 4, 2008 and that he had been up all night performing some sort of protection rite. Brown’s information was not included in any information given to the defense and he was not even aware his name came up in the investigation by Jodi Arias herself. I would expect that issue to surface promptly as well.
Gus Searcy, $100K ring earner for Prepaid Legal Services and now Legal Shield was noticed to be available this week for interview. Travis was scheduled to be on the conference call with Searcy at 6:45PM the evening of his murder.
Artful Dodging
While the trial is in hiatus, one are of Jodi Arias’s life is quite active and well, pecuniary.
Arias, through her family, has taken to EBay to sell her personally rendered offerings the macabre set is snatching up for a few hundred clams a piece during the trial.
It is believed to be managed by Arias’s mother Sandy, who uploaded images to Arias’s MySpace after her incarceration to include one of Gary Alexander- Travis’s older brother.
The defense portion of the Jodi Arias trial for the murder of Travis Alexander led by Kirk Nurmi and Jennifer Willmott will begin its case January 29th.
Check back to blinkoncrime.com for updates.
Jacqueline Beaufort, contributing editor
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@ SOTT
Better and better everyday! Thanks for the love, lovely friendy. xo
We’re all picking up the contradictions in Jodi’s story from the investigation vs. her testimony.
Let’s hope the jury is picking up on her inconsistenices, too. She can’t have it both ways.
Whats going on with court today?
Palerider thanks for sharing your thoughts on my post much appreciated. I agree with you…and it it will never go away there will always be someone who tends to believe the allegations against Travis…
as to the allowing it in with no evidence..I cant understand it either and it makes me wonder if we will hear some “evidence” of this–will it be as lame as in CA trial with the pics of “caylee” which many thought were doctored and could have been of any little girl supposedly going to show Caylee reaching the doorknob as proof she got out to the pool to accidentally drown?
Joan T-February 7, 2013 at 7:41 pm thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts
I agree that the jury was picked because they said they could be for the dp- so was the CA jury though..
and I agree that the defense has made some strides in humanizing Jodi- – I believe the defense would think of this as a “win” if they could just spare her the DP-
After the CA trial i am never going to think i know what a jury will do or how they will interpret instructions and testimony- unfortunately anything is possible- but in this case if my understanding is correct– think the most that can happen in Jodis favor is a hung jury or LWOP- never just letting her walk as she admits she killed him…
Ragdoll hang in there- I dont blame you for being upset this case is just awful all the way around.
AJMO
Peace
Will we eventually be able to see a transcript of the phone sex tape?
Eventually, yes.
B
Tuned into the trial at 3:45 EST. The only thing that enabled me to get through to the phone conversations was to look at pictures of Kim Il-sung.
LOL. Pass the Hot poker I can still hear on the other side. WOW.
B
Not sure where this afternoon’s audiotape takes things for either the defense or prosecution. TA certainly doesn’t sound stalked. JA doesn’t sound like she’s trying to please someone who’s attracted to little boys.
TA at times almost sounds more doped than tired, however.
Well I think the biggest question I had was how does it go from that to her hacking at the man like a savage, shooting him and then slitting his throat from ear to ear?
Someone better be able to explain that to the jury or we have a problem on both sides, imo.
My heart aches for TA family listening to this, I cannot imagine.
I personally feel/felt TA was under some sort of influence, yes.
B
Phone sex recorded on JA’s phone was May 6 2008 one month before she slaughtered him. Now on the stand she’s saying TA wanted her to record it????. Reeks of premeditation to me.
@B
(snipped) “My heart aches for TA family listening to this, I cannot imagine.
I personally feel/felt TA was under some sort of influence, yes.”
B
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It’s heartbreaking!
According to the autopsy report there was only a small amount of alcohol in his blood, or are you referring to some other influence?
The tape was 2 weeks prior to his death.
B
Watching live stream right now. While testifying about her physical abuse from Travis, Arias held her hand across her cheek, crooked finger extended ala battered woman. Less than 15 minutes later she’s waving her hands around explaining something else and remarkably… the finger lies flat.
I don’t think I can stand to watch her lying eyes anymore today…
Sammy says:
February 11, 2013 at 11:56 pm
My opinion … IF she does truly have some finger deformity, it was likely caused by the bloody, slippery life in her hands the night she brutally murdered Travis. Knife likely slipped and she cut her own finger as she was stabbing Travis. MOO
lyla says:
February 12, 2013 at 11:18 am
@SOTT says:
February 11, 2013 at 10:05 pm
Regarding the broken finger. Probably got broken during the brutally murderous attack on TA. I pray the prosecution nails her to the wall. She belongs in prison without parole. She’s not mentally fit to walk the streets.
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Sammy and Iyla,
AGREED! Also, if I remember correctly, during that same interview between Detective Flores and Arias, after she has him feel her ‘deformed’ finger, he states the very same thing that you have both stated above: i.e. that the injury is comsistent with the type of injury one would receive when they are stabbing someone and the blood makes everything slippery, etc
I swear my ears are bleeding. I’m calling BS on most of today’s allegations against Travis. The phone sex was just about more than I could stomach (I didn’t drive all the way home to throw up in the bathroom, however). The childish voice, the giggling, the pandering to his every statement was simply nauseating and embarrassing. Too many “teehees” and laughingly chiding Travis for “making me feel so dirty, hee hee hee”. Ugh to the babyish voice and double-ugh to her statement that having vaginal intercourse didn’t count if it took place under water. What????!?
Nurmi’s acting job of trying to point out Jodi’s PTSD is so overplayed and obvious, it’s embarrassing. Her pseudo-pain at everything sexual she participated in is a no-sell. Nurmi’s follow-up questions to try to minimize her enjoyment of the phone sex was transparent. The Jodi-in-the-Andrea-Yates outfits acts wounded, but she was determined he would return her adoration or she’d make sure he never lived to see June 5, 2008.
If Travis was contemptuous of her, it was likely because she had zero self-respect when it came to getting the man she wanted. That he didn’t return her love was construed as his cruelty against her. Somebody forgot to tell her you can’t coerce love out of another. The money she loaned to Travis? I very seriously doubt this. I believe she has twisted any and every detail of her life to make him look bad–to save her own skin. I truly don’t want to see her (or anyone else) executed, but she is too twisted to be turned loose on another unsuspecting man. I think this whole courtroom playback was really bad news for Jodi Arias. Just that she recorded and kept this recording goes to her lack of caring for anyone but herself.
The only thing that made me sit up and take notice was how out of it Travis sounded. He purportedly didn’t drink, but Blink you say you aren’t surprised at this? Do tell…
I didn’t say I was not surprised- but in fact I was. I felt he was under some sort of influence during the conversation.
B
@B
“The tape was 2 weeks prior to his death.
B”
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Thanks for the correction Blink. I think were getting close to her version of what went down on June 4th. IMO the defense has done a good job in securing a conviction….
Anyone know why it took over four years to bring JA to trial?
From one Word Girl to Another:
Here’s a fitting, succinct tribute to Sarah Majoras. I can only add, “Rock On, Sister.”
http://www.nj.com/hunterdon-county-democrat/index.ssf/2013/02/sarah_majoras_kind-hearted_wor.html
“Sarah Charlotte Majoras lived by the Good Book… the O.E.D. (the Oxford English Dictionary). Sarah had a love of words and yet words are too feeble to describe who she was and what she meant to the people who had the good fortune to know her. Only descriptors working in tandem stand a chance. Sarah was a quick-witted, well-read, free-thinking spreader of mirth. She was a whip-smart, kind-hearted, strong-willed and open-minded master of puzzles. Her absence leaves us broken-hearted. While these sentiments may sound cliché, Sarah was certainly not. She was all too rare.
A native of Cleveland, Sarah came to call Lambertville her home. Sarah earned a varsity letter for her volleyball prowess at Cleveland Central Catholic High School and was valedictorian of her class at South Hunterdon Regional High School.
Sarah is survived by her mother, Judy; her life partner, Adam; her dog, Jezza Underfoot; her extended family and friends in Maryland and Ohio; and the scores of friends she made through the verity of her smile.
Sarah’s family is appreciative of the love and support that the Lambertville and New Hope communities have demonstrated during this difficult time. …”
While I agree Sarah is worthy of a tribute, I have to ask- who wrote this? It would seem to me that it is written prior to any obituary or death announcement. But by someone who clearly knows her well, or gives the impression of same.
Arm’s length please- it is in order.
B
Just listened to the sex tape. The defense brought this in? … are you kidding me? Travis was most probably under an influence. IMO this tape blows her 5 days of testimony out of the water. She was ready, willing, urging, teasing, playing… In a baby voice. I might add that once again that finger lay flat.
And, I do believe those were genuine tears streaming as she listened in court… hearing his voice, I think she actually missed him.
If Travis was into kick boxing and really had some training, his so called kick to Jodi’s ribs would have either broken a couple or severly bruised them to the point that she could hardly breath. He outweighed Jodi by at least 60 lbs. Her story is getting less and less believeable each day.
This young woman suposedly left home because she was discplined by her parents and she didn’t like it. Sociopathic behavior in children appears first as made-up stories and manifests itself in resistance to parental suggestions to modify behavior and usually results in an angry encounter with parents.
We are to believe the story that she was grounded at age 15 when her dad took her car away from her. What is a 15 year old doing with a car? She may have had access to a car for learning to drive, but it was not her car. Just more made up stories.
She did show her slightly deformed finger to the court. That break did not come from a kick. It was broken by twisting it or having it caught under something very heavy.
I was hoping that we would finally get to the time where the altercation took place, but maybe tomorrow.
Was Travis into drugs? We don’t have any information that indicates that he was. However, it could have very well been hidden.
Wow. The tape was only TWO WEEKS prior to his death? “Goodnight Honey” and then she brutally killed him two weeks later.
And he was talking about visiting Washington, British Columbia, and Jodi in Northern California. He said she was top of the list of everyone he was visiting. And she was telling him about taking a trip to Utah. I wonder if him canceling his trip to visit her put her over the edge.
Like almost every other thing in this case, the tape worked at least as much FOR the prosecution as the defense. And almost every defense witness worked well for the prosecution. When the prosecution had their time, so much of what they put on seemed to work well for the defense, too. What a weird trial.
Mom3.0 yes I think more than likely it will be LWOP. That’s how it’s looking.
I wonder what the delay was earlier today.
One thing for sure, the ’50 Shades of Grey’ call does not show a timid, shy girl who feels like used toilet paper.
I agree with B. How does the jury fill in the blanks between THAT call and his murder? How could it go so wrong so fast? I’m not even going to make any guesses. I didn’t hear the whole thing but I heard enough and THAT FREAK was into the call just as much as Travis. She was fishing for compliments not to mention it contradicted her testimony, thus far. She’s a sexual pig!
She certainly knew her share of men, too. Is that a crime? I say tit for tat (pardon the pun). If character assassination is on the table, it should be fair game.
That’s my FriendLY, up and about ( say with the kanuck accent please, I LOVE it).
I heard quite a bit I hope the prosecution capitalizes on.
B
@ lyla says:
February 12, 2013 at 1:04 pm
She saved those phone calls for herself, imo. I don’t believe it proves premed. How many times did she revisit that conversation for ‘deviant’ purposes?
She could’ve at least gotten paid for all this. Wasted talent (snarkity snark).
@ Christy says:
February 12, 2013 at 12:38 pm
Thank you for your concern, dear friendy. I am doing WAY WAY better. Flu shots on order next year. It’s not worth going through a 2nd time.
Thank you for the love! xo xo xo
@ Christy
PS…hope hubby is on the mend, real fast!
…and no, I’m not a better patient than anyone’s hubby. I’m a miserable ogre.
Martinez will probably bring up the broken finger. He CAN ask her about that, can’t he?
If you make a list of all the things Martinez should bring up, he could be doing his cross for WEEKS.
I don’t think I’ll listen when she gets to the details of the murder. Poor Travis! I don’t want to hear.
My thought too, Travis under some kind of influence. He sounded more than just tired.Maybe he needed a sleep aid on ocassion. Jodi is still acting with revenge in this trial. By putting Travis’ family through this horror she is still trying to get even with Travis. I found it wise of Travis’ family to stay in the courtroom. IMO they showed courage and to jodi she could not embarass and humiliate them. Her answers to Nurmi were ridiculous. To me she is insulting jurors intelligence. I am patiently waiting J.Martinez cross exam as he goes through every inconsistancy.
What an educational day-lol.
Does everybody agree the tantrum this morning was that the Judge decided the whole audio tape was to be played not just the snippets the Defense selected? I think that was great! I do think it was in bad taste for her sister to hear the insults towards the end- but you wonder, do they really know how ugly JA can really be? So to me this call was a set up, a planned phone taping. I wonder when she decided or finalized these plans? I sure wish we could see the jurors expressions to see what their take is on all of this.
True dat, whew. Putting that on my list things I could have my life never knowing.
I think you are correct, but it would surprise me to believe that Nurmi thought he could only play snippets of that tape- it is standard to enter it in it’s entirety and unedited. Could it be about the evidentiary hearing this morning?
B
sorry for being a board hog- trying to catch up-
hey
Eloise I was not responding to any point you made
I apologize if my intent was not clear-
I was attempting to illustrate that the general language such as you used to describe JA -could just as easily be used to attack any other victim of crime such as Morgan- who in death, has been attacked for her possible sexual history as well as clothing etc.
I was not comparing JA to MH I was comparing the language used to question their morals or their character etc.
let me try to explain better-
You posted:
Mom3.0 said:
I just dont want us to use Jodi Arias sex life against her otherwise we are dangerously close to making moral and value judgments against Travis- which is what this Defense WANTS
Eloise: Why is that against Travis?
My response-
if we denigrate Jodi for her past relationships and if we question her morals and character based upon her sex life than that sets Travis up for the same treatment as he too was once in a relationship where he was more “worldly” and he wanted more than his partner -at a faster rate than his partner and he wanted marriage and a family and financial security with someone who was clearly not ready for it a young woman who seemed to be less into him than he was to her ..
AND Jodis sexual liaisons with Travis were WITH Travis -she wasnt dancing with herself alone in the dark-
Regardless if you believe her perspective as the truth or not- clearly Travis was a partner to sexual intimacies with her to some degree- so he isnt Lily white- therefore we are setting him up to be denigrated just as JA has been. see what I mean?
You posted
Eloise:
I guess we have to take the leap to believe all her stories- which I can’t do-
My response:
No I dont believe them either certainly not all not after the tape played today– but we are not talking about “truth” here- my point was we are talking about victims being vilified
such as during rape cases and murder cases and missing persons cases attacked for their past sexual histories or innuendos of same- things that are no different from the kinds of acts JA has described in her past and her relationship WITH Travis… as shown in the tape..
To use these as ammunition against Arias is to set Travis up and essentially agree to the reasoning that having these pasts are bad and show lack of morals or character and thereby makes it easier to perpetuate the actions of defenses coming in and attacking REAL victims inorder to cast doubt upon them, just like JAs defense is trying to do with Travis see what i mean?
You posted
Eloise:
I believe there will be many of these tales that will be countered in rebuttal, so then how do we deal with what is the truth and what is spun to save her life?
My response: i agree with this and again we are not talking about truth or lies we are talking about WE the people essentially helping these defenses that use ones sexual history as a character assassination or an excuse to not vote guilty based upon the victims “propensity to hook up” or be seen by others as wild or slutty etc.
All sadly used to “prove” there was no brutal raped but instead possibly based upon consenual past interests or experiences even just as innuendo- such as s&M or rough sex etc… or used as in Travis case to show he was into “deviant” sex and a liar because he didnt broadcast his experiences and didnt immediately repent to his bishop which the defense wants the jury to interpet as Travis he was BAD and an abuser
You posted-
Mom3.0 also said:
and we are most definitely on the road to making moral judgments of thousands of victims of rape/murder who have much the same backgrounds and are forced to defend their character and their reputations because of just such a past
Eloise:
I think this already happens. I think it is very awful for the typical rape victim, mainly females, to have to face their attacker & explain why they didn’t ask for it. I have seen where ppl have written and I agree, if Travis was a woman, we wouldn’t be doing this ridiculous dance, the perp. would be arrested and be sentenced already, but bc it is a female on male crime, it just couldn’t be- almost like reverse discrimination. That isn’t fair either. It’s very sad case.
my response :
yes this already does happen and it is awful. But each time we react to a persons/womans sex life as a means to tear her down– WE are perpetuating the problem
In essence saying She is a temptress a slut, worldly, sleazy, easy etc etc- she is somehow less than a good girl… IMO
and in this case the defense is using it to again portray Travis as something deviant -wrong -evil- more than a young man who was sexually active and enjoying it in the moment although possibly regretting it afterwards ..
This case is sad- I agree totally but the same actions we are using against Jodi, a woman – the anal sex the pics- the oral sex- the past relationships etc are the same things in which the defense is trying to use against Travis
Travis it seems engaged with Jodi in these actions as shown in the tape and he seems to be more experienced than previously thought comparing Jodis taste to other women etc.. That doent make him a slut or a pimp or a deviant that makes him human and sexually active at least in phone sex..
Jodis defense is trying to paint him as a pedo etc because we the people tend to look better upon a male being experienced than we do on a female with the same experiences–
regrettably we the people are setting up these defenses because of our moral and value judgments
My point is we have to take this ammunition away from the defenses for both men and women we have to stop making value and moral judgments – we have to stop tearing one another down based on past exploits/sexual experience or rumors innuendos etc -otherwise we again are perpetuating the victim being re-victimized
I hope I better explained my thoughts Eloise thanks for allowing me the chance to try-
Hope you made it through this long post
ajmo peace
FWIW
I Just finished listening to the tape – this tape did not help Jodi Arias’ case in anyway- she came off as an instigator trying to walk Travis into talking bad about other people etc..
This tape made Travis Alexander a living breathing person one who sang off key and had feelings and flaws and wants and needs- a person who had plans and seemed to treat Jodi Arias with kindness and yes with respect- he complimented her and called her his girlfriend and seemed to genuinely care for her-
and as for the 12 year old comment- NO BIG deal
Jodi had just finished asking him to be more freaky and the same for his roping her to a tree anal comment- no big deal
he called her his forest girl and said he liked her braids..
Travis was not virginal and neither was Jodi
this tape IMO shows two consenting adults in a sexual relationship and to me Travis came off as the most kind and genuinely caring of the two of them- and the one who was more easily led
and it also shows jodi was not coerced into things and her language showed her to be quite knowledgeable and she liked the porn star endearment or seemed to…-
Blink I have to respectfully disagree with your take on Travis’ demeanor- to me -he did not seem under the influence of anything other than Jodi and lack of sleep and lust.
In the first 9 minutes he yawns twice-next Travis Alexander says he is not into drinking- he is not slurring his words he is mumbly… this is why I think he is not under the influence..
JMO Blink I dont know if you are correct or not but I had not heard the autopsy showed signs of alcohol- was this from drinking or is more a case of decomp?
jodi was taping this convo doesnt comeoff as a victim…and SHE was leading the discussions i do NOT believe for a minute that Travis knew that this was being recorded- for the simple fact that Travis was not scripted he spoke openly about things and people in a way i dont think he would ever want to hear aloud..
IMO Arias was baiting him-
Travis had no problem calling Jodi Arias his girlfriend-
In fact his friend who testified for him Abe-was a subject of this conversation within the first ten minutes.
Jodi brought him up by saying I know you dont like Abe…and silently waits for Travis to open up… ( remember shes taping) and Travis answers:
yeah…He is soulless he is at the top of that list
jodi laughs and compliments Abe as just focused on business- and then in the course of this discussion we learn why Travis has an issue with his friend and guess why? it is because of Arias…
Travis says
Hes a ghost to me because what am I supposed to say? hey you kissed my girlfriend? What are we supposed to talk about that…
to which JA laughs and says: That was way before i was your girlfriend… youre so cute
and Travis immediately answers back uhh na na (thats not true Jodi) what I am supposed to say? you know what i mean? I just got ripped a new one because some drunk chick fell on me… and now your drunk and trying to hook up with MY GIRLFRIEND 5 minutes later???
jodi asks sickeningly sweet voice: when was that?
and Travis answers:
Oklahoma remember? i was gonna go beat his azz
to which Jodi immediately steers the convo away from this revelation & back to June and more manipulations ensue : OHH he did say something not so nice it was meant to be a compliment to me.. but it was an insult to you… and i should have stuck up for you… all babyish she says: haltingly I ..I.. I… was timid and was
to which Travis is responding and she is still talking they talk over one another and both agree to not discuss the incident anymore as they previously agreed it leads to discontent..
IMO see if Travis was alive to tell his side of this story i think we would hear something much different then jodis interpretations- as it seems that Jodi lit into Travis and “tore him a new one” for that drunken girl falling on him and then she hurt him by kissing Abe that night but it wasnt her fault … much different then the story we heard during her testimony-
Yep i really dont think this tape helped her case.
and her defense seems to be doing the prosecutions job… and I keep thinking of your words Blink regarding a deminsished capacity defense absent “not guilty by rrason of insanity—and that scarsz me for i wander are they going for the “Primal Fear” defense? Is nurmi setting up a moment for jodis craziness to come out?
see here-
Warning graphic- language adult content
clip of “primal fear”- while watching replace bishop rushmands with travis and aaron’s with Jodi..
AJMO peace
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2g4Wr81rz8&list=PL0F3B26A285F16F12
You could be right Mom 3.0, I am not familiar with anyone actually slurring their words just out of being tired, but it is possible. The only alcohol found at autopsy was due to autolysis, or decomposition.
B
sorry Blink my key board is acting up and my thoughts are moving too fast-
that should have read :
and her defense seems to be doing the prosecutions job… and I keep thinking of your words Blink regarding a diminished capacity defense just lacking or absent the plea of “not guilty by reason of insanity”—and that scares me for i wonder… are they going for the “Primal Fear” defense? Is nurmi setting up a moment for jodis craziness to come out?
clip of “primal fear”- while watching replace bishop rushmands with Travis and aaron’s with Jodi..
see here-
Warning graphic- language adult content
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2g4Wr81rz8&list=PL0F3B26A285F16F12
@Ragdoll hope tomorrow you wake up feeling better
Well I didn’t see much in the tapes to save Jodi
She sounded like a young girl with her silly talk
I wonder if that is the way she always acted around Travis
I don’t think this relationship could have lasted long term to bad they didn’t both walk away
I am looking at her finger it is hard to tell how bad it is
I guess she has use of it to draw
I think what Travis family have to hear is just awful but they stay to support him
And Jodi’s mom stays
Sad for all of them
This woman is pathetic. She’s supposedly a skilled photographer. Where are all the pictures of her alleged abuse. Also, if she was recording phone sex, why not be recording all of these supposed abusive arguments. I’m shocked the judge has allowed this trash in a courtroom. It’s so degrading it makes me want to throw up. Hopefully, the jury sees right through the sleezy diversions and is focussed on this gruesome murder. My prayers for Travis’s friends and family. They certainly show their strength in being able to take the high road.
Good morning Blink & Blinksters. I don’t buy JA story about TA maturbating in front of little boys pictures. And as to the Sex tape, it tells me JA knew how to keep TA interest for her, using his weeknesses and his sexuals fantasies. She is not the victim she pretends to be, she is the player in hat matter. Sadly they are putting TA on trial where he can not defend himself, so i hope at least the prosecution will bei abble to give him a voice.
JA use an alibi as why she went back to TA’s home caughting him maturbating in front of a little boy’s picture. If her story was true, the alibi wich was to get back the little angel TA gave her would have been secondary with no needs to explain this long as why she had to come back. She fabricates the backround of a story to tell a story. If you have a fact you go straight on it. Only my opinion.
(It is very possible TA gave her a little angel but for me not in that context )
Blink i am sorry for my typos in my last 2 post.
Maturbating= masturbating
Weekness= weakness
In hat matter = in that matter
Will bei abble = will be able
I tiped too fast and didn’t pay enough attention
It seems to me that Travis was a man that wanted to be sure that his sexual partner was pleasured during sex as much as he was. Does that sound like a sexually abusive person? I do not think so. I heard a woman doing what she could to try and persuade a man that he was not going to be able to find a Morman wife that would take care of his sexual needs like she could. Why was Jodi so upset today before she took the stand. Does anyone think she was upset because her father and brother would not remain in the court showing support for her during this day of trial. More men letting her down. Poor Jodi.
I was at home sick yesterday, so I actually got to watch the trial. Regarding Jodi’s “deformed” finger, I call BS. It was lying perfectly straight when she was not consciously trying to keep it bent.
Last night, on either Nancy Grace or Jane Velez-Mitchell, a friend of both Travis and Jodi was on. He said that Jodi showed up at his house a couple of days after Travis was murdered with that same finger bandaged up. She hurt that finger while she was viciously stabbing Travis.
Poor Travis. Besides being murdered by that psycho bitc*, now his character is being assassinated as well.
@Ragdoll
(snipped) “I agree with B. How does the jury fill in the blanks between THAT call and his murder? How could it go so wrong so fast? I’m not even going to make any guesses. I didn’t hear the whole thing but I heard enough and THAT FREAK was into the call just as much as Travis. She was fishing for compliments not to mention it contradicted her testimony, thus far. She’s a sexual pig!”
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Glad you are doing better Ragdoll!! Now me and my hubby have it just in time for VDay!
I think this is where it goes to premeditation. JA made the phone sex call to Travis and recorded it to boot…why? Was she setting up an alibi for her eventual day in court, i.e. alluding to her appearance of a 12 year old with pigtails thus giving the impression TA was a pedophile. IMO this tape tells me Travis was role playing while JA was planning his demise. We all know what happened subsequently.
OK. I get it. Defense is trying to explain away what was on memorialized on the tape. Good luck with that. Speaking of which:
“Will we eventually be able to see a transcript of the phone sex tape?
Eventually, yes.”
Excellent! Hopefully before Valentine’s Day. Gotta get Futurewoman in the mood somehow. Last year’s gift–pictures of meat autographed by Nancy Reagan–didn’t go over so well.
Oh boy! For really? I have to say, while listening to that tape I just kept thinking of his sisters having to sit and listen to this tape. I was so shocked (I am a sister as well) I talked to my husband about it (he listens and just shakes his head most of the time) And then I thought of my children. I am sure that Travis had no idea this conversation would end up in open court and on youtube for anyone and everyone to hear. Now that is degrading! Just sayin’!!!!
I have to admit as well that I liked it when Nurmi was questioning her about something having to do with the rear end sex (sorry, for me that is just hard to type) and Martinez objects and says something along the lines of “is that the part when she says she likes it” I mean come on people. I think he has been behaving pretty well considering. I say that one was a freebie!
Do you think that this has backfired on the defensed Blink and friends? My opinion is yes, but then again I thought the Cword was going to be found guilty, case closed!
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Mom3.0 says:
February 13, 2013 at 12:48 am
FWIW
I Just finished listening to the tape – this tape did not help Jodi Arias’ case in anyway- she came off as an instigator trying to walk Travis into talking bad about other people etc..
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I finally had a second to read this Mom3.0 and you have great insight! I also watched the clip, I had seen the movie but its been a while. Well this is not a movie and Nurmi wont get that far in theatrics if you ask me. I think like I said above he will be brought the ground by Martinez with objections like “is that the part where she says she likes it” there is a lot of reality in real life Mr. Nurmi! I hope he can remind the defense that they introduced the tape, hot him!
Thanks Blink i always forget the right terminology- autolysis yes.
Jodi and Nurmi trying to portray this as a “cycle” of abuse and the apologizing and the shaking- where is the proof?
Jodi is a horrible actress- there has to be more than just her word…
it sounds like in prison JA has been interviewing women who were actual survivors- and is trying to duplicate their stories….
I noticed today that Jodi again uses the word “Corrected” when giving the reasons for calling him back after moving..
PP- his facts were wrong so I called him to correct him- \
the way she emphasizes the word “correct” – she did this before during one of the 48 hrs mysteries…
It gives me the creeps and makes me think of the scene in “the Shining”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIMtJo88NCM
Some truth is in every lie I think Jodi every now and then- she lets her anger seep thru her testimony -it leads me to believe she killed him because she was enraged over the “pawning his car off on her” and as a correction for not living up to her expectations etc…
AJMO
mOM3.0 SAID – She wouldnt have been making any “yelps” over her hurt finger she would be in EXCRUCIATING pain from the KICK to her ribs- and Arias would not be holding her finger and crawling to look down at Travis at the doorway- She would be in Excruciating pain just trying to breathe any movement would have sent her head spinning-
Wow, Mom, you’re so right about this! I broke my ribs, actually tore rib cartillage, last August trying to pull a dead tree trunk out of the ground. It broke and I went flying. I couldn’t breathe, cough, laugh without severe pain for 2 weeks. I couldn’t even move for several minutes, lying on the ground, telling my husband not to touch me. Very very astute observation!!!!!
Christy said – Ragdoll…DON’T MAKE ME COME TAKE CARE OF YOU!!
(wait…are you a better patient than my husband??)
*Btw, y’all…hubby is back at work after breaking his leg for the first full day.~~~~~
Yay for hubby!!!!! Hope Ragdoll is still getting better, too!!!!!
at a hotel w/ TV today I finally glimpsed the subject of commentary but only last 10 min. How do you bear watching.
My impression (during sex tape) was the recording she did was either an element in a stalking obsession or part of careful preplanning of the murder as part of an explanatory plan.
I lasted 10 min, that is.
I pity everyone in that Courtroom.
Except her attorney.
I put him on a par with Amendola/Rominger.
They make trouble for themselves.
LOL. Leave it to Rose to sum it up in under 10.
B
I see JA is back smiling at the jury today, unlike yesterday’s hung head, no eye contact.
possibly they were both under the influence
(maybe alcohol plus something else)
when she attacked him, rending him more vulnerable
and her a wild thing overkilling.
I worked inpatient with adjudicated ngri commitments.
She doesn’t rise to that standard imo.
Loni said – Good morning Blink & Blinksters. I don’t buy JA story about TA maturbating in front of little boys pictures. And as to the Sex tape, it tells me JA knew how to keep TA interest for her, using his weeknesses and his sexuals fantasies. She is not the victim she pretends to be, she is the player in hat matter. Sadly they are putting TA on trial where he can not defend himself, so i hope at least the prosecution will bei abble to give him a voice.~~~~~~~~
This is exactly what I’m thinking, Loni! All her coyness, acting like a little girl – it was all to entice him, turn him on.
I didn’t listen to much of the tape. I just couldn’t bear it, but what I did hear sounded much more like JA was the aggressor, the instigator, albeit ever so innocently, so to speak.
She knew exactly what she was doing, trying to hold on to her man. A very dangerous shark.
Well seems I’m a board hog today, lol!
I sure hope Pros Martinez is reading here!
More talk today about abuse and Jodi’s reaction to it even when she is in Yreka Ca. that is in her words 1,000 miles away. That part is true, the distance. The story about the move from Mesa to Yreka with the U-haul truck is just another way to taunt Travis. Anyone who was normal would have loaded the truck and hit the road.
It is strange that so far there is little or no evidence that abuse ever took place. Some abused women will be so ashamed that they will hide the abuse, but they usually have someone that they confide in. Does anyone find it strange that Jodi seems to have no real close girl friends. This is another sign of sociopathy.
The back and forth conversation of Mom3.0 and Erose about the behaviors of victims and how people make evaluations that may or may not be accurate is interesting. I find myself often looking at the dangerous behaviors of both men and women regarding their personal safety. IMO there are things to be learned if they are examined. Condemnation of these behaviors will not bring bring back a victim. However, they can be used to help people to understand that sometimes there are deadly consequences associated with them.
I am not sure if Jodi was plotting all the details of Travi’s set up in court. I do think the last two weeks of his life when she taped that sexual encounter that it was for the purpose of using it against him though. I dont believe for one minute that TA knew she was taping that. Listen to the way she talks on the tape, and the way he talks. She is VERY into the sexual part while he sounds more casual about it and talking about video taping her later.
TA did not sound like he was under the influence of anything to me. He sounded a little tired and someone bored. I think, based on the testimony from her other live-in boyfriend, that she was very aggressive sexually and probably introduced TA to a lot of things that he wouldnt have thought about otherwise.
The talk on the tape didnt sound degrading to me, nor did the text message. The impression I get is that they role played a lot and I think the little girl routine, and the slut/whore routine was role playing. JA Defense team is using all the stuff they know about to build that picture, that TA was this sexual deviant, and way out there, but in reality, when I heard that tape, I heard Jodi being excited by it and into it more than him. She even says that she thinks about having sex with him all the time. She tells him she loves to be oral with him. How can she build a case that says he degraded her and asked for that when clearly she is admitting “in her own words” that she likes it and thinks about it all the time?
Earlier in testimony she tried to play the “Im an innocent woman who would never think about taking a picture of myself for him” routine, but then later, on the sex tape when TA starts talking about making the porn-type video with her, she just laughs and gets into it.
I feel embarrassed that TA family is there listening to what has to be very shocking for them. They never knew their son did and said these kinds of things, and they know JA is using all this to get away with murder. It infuriates me…and makes me so sad for them. It makes me sad that JA Mother hears it too. And Im sorry that the jury has to be subjected to listening, in full detail to someone elses sexual fantasies. It’s disgusting to me that they have to listen to what I know JA loves to hear. She’s proud of all of it…but pretending that she’s not. I would be mortified to think that this would be played in court, but she isn’t. Im not buying any of her acting…and I pray the jury is smart enough to see through the lies and that the truth is revealed.
JA is (in my opinion), not painting a picture of an abused woman who felt like toilet paper, and that’s why she had to kill him as he got worse and worse. I don’t buy it. Maybe Im not as soft hearted as others…I dont think that’s the case. I just think I know human nature better and can see through the deception.
Praying every day that the truth is known and that the jury will think clearly and make the right decision in this case, for Travis and his family. She can rot in prison the rest of her natural life. It wouldnt bother me a bit to send her there, or to sentence her to death. She is terrifyingly evil.
I read an interesting theory today..curious to get all your thoughts on this:
Since Jodi had all of Travis’ passwords or the ability to hack his accts…could it be that SHE logged in and sent those emails to herself from his account, thus appearing as if he sent them?
Why did she conveniently keep texts from Travis but her out going texts to him in reply are non-existent?
I wouldn’t be surprised if this theory were true…regardless of her saying they decided to share passwords as a sign of trust (which I have a hard time believing personally).
It didn’t take Gus long to pimp himself out to the media once the Judge released him from subpoena. I swear he would try and sell the sweat off his ass if he thought someone would buy it! He is gonna say whatever he thinks will get him the most airtime. I also think he had a thing for Jodi..ewwww!! That paints a vivid image doesn’t it…brain bleach!!!
So Blinksters…have I lost it or is this theory plausible?
Fingers crossed we will finally get to the meat and potatoes tomorrow, although I think Nurmi is stuck in reverse ugghh!!!
Jane says:
February 13, 2013 at 3:49 am
This woman is pathetic. She’s supposedly a skilled photographer. Where are all the pictures of her alleged abuse. Also, if she was recording phone sex, why not be recording all of these supposed abusive arguments. I’m shocked the judge has allowed this trash in a courtroom. It’s so degrading it makes me want to throw up. Hopefully, the jury sees right through the sleezy diversions and is focussed on this gruesome murder. My prayers for Travis’s friends and family. They certainly show their strength in being able to take the high road.
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Jane,
That is a great point about her being an avid photographer. I hope someone expresses that with the prosecuter. I heard it said over and over that she always had her camera with her. She photographed everything. She would definitely have photo’s of any abuse that occured. She considered herself an artist in photograpy. This woman really need to stay in jail for ever. I am not for the death penalty, but this woman is scarey.