Jodi Arias Trial: New Witnesses May Reveal Defense Strategy- Prosecution Omissions
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Phoenix, AZ- In a terse exchange prior to the hiatus in the Arias trial, the defense repeated their contention that they want The Honorable Sherry Stephens to order a directed verdict or a mistrial in the State’s case against Jodi Arias.
As reported exclusively by BOC it does seem the prosecution missed quite a bit of potential evidence including a possible motive- the duct tape around Travis’s right arm. Was it the final straw that made Jodi Arias snap as she was allegedly taking photos of Travis in the shower without his knowledge?
There was also an exparte hearing held in Judge Stephen’s chambers, however, the contents of those minutes have not yet been filed- although the docket suggests they have. The defense is now testing Jodi Arias’s canon camera for some undisclosed reason.
With the defense preparing to start its case next week in spite of the outstanding motions before the court- have the prosecution’s actions harmed their case?
The issue at the forefront seems to hinge on something that the prosecution never introduced- On Purpose, says Prosecutor Juan Martinez.
The prosecution’s very first witness, Maria Hall, who was the female friend attending the Cancun trip with Alexander on June 10th, told the court that Travis told her he had been stalked while on a date with another girl and had his tires slashed. The intimation before the court was clear regardless of the defense attempts to point out that Travis never said it was Jodi who was responsible.
Nancy Grace and Jane Velez Mitchell lit up their HLN evening roster discussing Arias’s stalker behavior with several associates of Alexander. Dr. Karl Hiatt said one Sunday he was told that he had his tires slashed and that it was possible that something might escalate and he may not show up for dinner as a result.
Outside the presence of the jury Juan Martinez argued that they did not call the witness who Travis was on that particular date with because he did not want to create “an inflammatory” situation for the jury causing an appellate issue.
However, Martinez also lets it slip that Lisa Andrews Daidone does not want to testify and the defense tells the judge the prosecution has withheld her contact information from them and THEY intend to call her. Daidone recently deleted her FB profile and other social media sites in her name.
Does it make any sense to anyone why a prosecutor would not call a witness who could place a dangerous weapon in the hands of a person committing a destructive and openly violent act who they allege is guilty of doing exactly that for exactly the same reasons in the instant case?
From Daidone’s bog entry in 2008:
”…So because Heavenly Father allowed this to happen, I have grown in such a way that I couldn’t have otherwise, or at least not as quickly. While if you asked me a few months from now if I could go back would I change it, I would say “Absolutely,” I’m not sure how much I would actually change about it. Of course I wouldn’t want Travis to be taken. I might even opt for Jodi to be popped instead. But who am I to decide the fate of the hundreds of people that have been effected by this? It’s hard
to say which way is better. Travis always talked about Opportunity Cost. He spoke of how his time could be used best, to benefit the maximum amount of people. I’m sure he wishes he could have done more while he was here, but I don’t think he regrets leaving. He is doing something amazing up in the Spirit World. I know it. I can feel it. He is continuing to learn and progress. He’s helping others to do the same. He is the same wonderful, creative, spontaneous, caring, gentle, driven, foe- paint-loving, show-tune-singing man that I fell in love with…”
Is it because in the 48 Hours Mystery program so frequently noted by the defense Detective Flores openly states there was no evidence whatsoever that Jodi was involved in that incident after he repeats his theory that Travis was shot first? Both these statements made by the lead detective in the case on national television directly conflict with the prosecution’s case as testified by Esteban Flores.
NO.
Is it because they already know who was responsible for the multiple tire slashing incidents and presenting that information might corroborate a story told to them by Arias in the past?
In her own words, Lisa Andrews Daidone began dating Travis Alexander in July 2007. According to the minutes filed from trial January 16th, the tire slashing incident was in December 2007, both Alexander and Andrew’s tires were slashed and the individual came to the front door . Martinez states Andrews will testify to these facts. Prior to dating Alexander, Daidone was dating a common friend and member of their Mormon ward- Steve Bell. Arias claims she and Travis began dating February 2, 2007.
Daidone will not go into how she and Travis began dating, or why, but there is a Steve Bell connected to this group that has had some serious troubles with the law immediately preceding the break up, and many following.
Could the mystery stalker have been on her end and NOT Arias? If so, you can bet the defense will be bringing that issue into court next week and providing the jury with this eye opening gem- expected to cause further problems with the State’s theory.
That’s not all, unfortunately.
Thomas Brown, a former roommate of Travis Alexander in the home of his murder, was interviewed up to three times by Detective Flores whereby he told them that Jodi had open access to the home when he was around and the Arias he knew was completely shy and somewhat awkwardly withdrawn. He was having a hard time picturing her do this without help and he told cops that.
He also told them something about Travis being shocked to get the call that Jodi Arias was standing outside the home the early morning hours of June 4, 2008 and that he had been up all night performing some sort of protection rite. Brown’s information was not included in any information given to the defense and he was not even aware his name came up in the investigation by Jodi Arias herself. I would expect that issue to surface promptly as well.
Gus Searcy, $100K ring earner for Prepaid Legal Services and now Legal Shield was noticed to be available this week for interview. Travis was scheduled to be on the conference call with Searcy at 6:45PM the evening of his murder.
Artful Dodging
While the trial is in hiatus, one are of Jodi Arias’s life is quite active and well, pecuniary.
Arias, through her family, has taken to EBay to sell her personally rendered offerings the macabre set is snatching up for a few hundred clams a piece during the trial.
It is believed to be managed by Arias’s mother Sandy, who uploaded images to Arias’s MySpace after her incarceration to include one of Gary Alexander- Travis’s older brother.
The defense portion of the Jodi Arias trial for the murder of Travis Alexander led by Kirk Nurmi and Jennifer Willmott will begin its case January 29th.
Check back to blinkoncrime.com for updates.
Jacqueline Beaufort, contributing editor
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I think all these tall tales and lies that JA has spent the past 5 days spinning (with no end in sight) … Is all part of defense strategy.
He’s leading her along to play up a make believe story that JA was a victim of abuse by Travis.
****which is sooo insulting and hurtful to women (and men) who have actually lived thru an abusive relationship****
I watch the way Nurmi leads JA in his questioning … And how she’s playing up the poor little meek JA bull-hockey
storyline to the jury.
It’s straight out out the classic “cycle of abuse wheel” that is employed by psychologists and at women’s safe
houses to help TRUE victims of physical/emotional/sexual abuse realize the trap they are stuck in.
1) Phase #1 … Tension builds (victim feels the need to placate her abuser)
2) Phase #2 … The Incident (verbal, sexual, emotional or physical abuse)
3) Phase #3 … Reconciliation (abuser apologizes or minimizes)
4) Phase #4 … The Calm (often called the Honeymoon Phase)
Nurmi keeps asking her to repeat incidents, then asks her “how did that make you feel?”. JA always makes a point
of saying she “just went along with Travis and his dirty deeds to keep him from becoming angry with her”, and that
she knows that once she gets past whatever pseudo-abuse she’s claiming – that he’ll calm down and they’ll be back
to their normal lovey-dovey relationship.
I sincerely hope I’m not offending any true and real victims of abuse that may be reading. That is not my intent at all.
I’ve been there myself in the past, and know how insidious it is and how extremely difficult it us to break the cycle.
But NONE of these tales of abuse ring true coming from JA.
Totally MOO … But if anyone was abused in their relationship – I believe JA was keeping Travis in that cycle of abuse. She plotted & planned exactly how to “play” Travis.
JA kept returning to Travis to get whatever she could/needed from him.
When she had used and gotten all she wanted from Travis – he needed to be gone so she could move along in her narcissistic life — that equals premeditated murder. MOO
Nurmi’s likely going to claim JA “snapped” after being abused for so long by JA. That’s where these five l-o-n-g days (and more to come) of JA’ s uncanny ability to remember every date, time, color of her shirt, Exact quotes
of conversations from 4+ years ago are leading to.
It’s the only strategy the defense has to keep her arse off death row.
No surprise from me when the time comes for cross from Juan – and JA suddenly cannot remember much of anything.
(wheel of abuse cycle)
http://www.heart-2-heart.ca/men/page5.htm
Sooo..this is what Gus meant by having info that could hurt Jodi ~ IF we can believe Gus (big IF)…..he says Jodi called him in tears at 3am AFTER killing Travis and told Gus that Travis was dead…oh to have been a fly in the focus for that convo…that is to say IF that convo really happened.
What can the prosecution do with this info…assuming they are aware of his appearance on TV this evening?
Check her cell records again to see if there is any record of this call being made?
Ask her on cross why she wasn’t too afraid to call Gus but was too afraid to call the police?
Call Gus as a rebuttal witness and ask him “what was his understanding of why she killed Travis”? (is this even possible)
Can Gus be charged with anything like failure to report a crime or obstruction or anything?
If nothing else it points out yet again that she is a complete pathological liar.
I wonder why the Pros opted not to return Gus’s calls back in 2008? The guy is a total clown in my opinion and likes the attention he is getting..but what if he’s telling the truth…what if?
Do you think the defense will incorporate this in to jodi’s testimony and she will have some planned excuse/lie to soon?
Will the prosecution research this claim and try to confirm/validate the accuracy and use it against her if it proves to be factual?
There’s always new drama each and every day on this case that’s for sure!!
Ok, so Jodi was depressed and suicidal again over the abuse. She says she was suicidal during the 48 hours interview and that is why “mark my words no jury will convict me”. This is not my original thought but one I heard yesterday and I think it is spot on…..She is going to claim she was going to use the gun to commit suicide.
Agreed.
B
Gus skeeves me out. I don’t know why I was watching Dr Drew last night, but Gus made a bee line to any media he could. I loved when he started trying to promote his MLM legal business, and Dr Drew cut him off with a quickness saying something like ‘not what you’re here for’. lol
I “get” why Travis’ family is staying in the courtroom for the entire case, I know its unnerving to Jodi.
But why oh why is HER whole family in there for all of this?? How old is her brother? And why would her dad want to hear that?
Something is off with her mom, after being totally thrown under every bus passing by, she sits there.
I wish Jodi would just end this all and break and say she planned this and just killed him, she was pi$$ed and save everyone from the droning and paper flipping.
I really don’t even know how her attorneys are able to stomach all this.
Twitch, would you please link re the Gus Searcy phone call from Arias? Thank you.
I noted yesterday that Arias has now labelled Travis a “bully”. Trembles when he calls? Please.
I think that to date it has been relatively easy for Arias to lie, slowly guided by her attorney, projecting all of her actions onto Travis. In every web of lies there is a nexus of truth. If Martinez can reveal that nexus her stories will unravel. Note the deer in headlights look when he voir dires her. She is an accomplished liar and will be put to test soon.
BS on the finger. As she eagerly flips through the unilateral text message pages to find her bullying proofs, and when her guard is down and she’s smiling to the jury her hand motions increase and the finger is in line. Even so, Ryan testified that Arias showed up at his home with bandaged fingers. Was it possible to get tapes from stores along her route to Utah, to see what purchases were made? Man, this girl was on the road a lot to be with men.
To recap, we have unilateral texting, nude photos but none of physical abuse, no diary notations of physical abuse and not one friend or confidant stepping forward to testify in that manner, and most notable a sex tape of Arias teasing Travis into sexual desires and proclaiming her delight in their fantasies even after all this physical abuse occurred.
I don’t wish to be insensitive to verbal and emotional abuse. I have been in that situation and know firsthand that it can be more painful than physical abuse. Bruises heal but the mind is powerful… and emotional abuse is difficult to prove. But rational minds don’t commit premeditated murder. They shut down and stay, or walk away. Not once has Jodi testified that she asked Travis not to speak to her in such a way, to stop calling her names and to treat her with respect.
Arias was not married to Travis, had no children with him, and no home or property to divide. He did not oversee her job. By her own words he was not supporting her financially. There was not one single obstacle to her leaving the relationship. She was a free agent, able to walk away at any moment without further obligation or tie. She chose to stay in it. Even when she threatened to leave, she played games for days.
This woman is a sociopath. She will kill again. She needs to be stopped.
@Jden
That was what Gus claimed on Dr. Drew last night near the end of his media exclusive…I don’t know if HLN has episodes posted that you can re-watch?
He wasn’t on for long but that is exactly what he said…Jodi called him at 3am crying and told him Travis was dead…this being the morning immediately following his death.
If that is true, why would the prosecution not call him?
This guy. I have to admit that yesterday when he was not called, and the eyes of Judge Stephens bugged out that Nurmi had no more witnesses, I knew something was up with him.
B
B
I haven’t kept up much with the trial since JA started her endless monologue. Her testimony comes across to me like one of Stephen King’s lesser but longer novel, specifically Under the Dome, which goes on for over a thousand pages and then ends with a deus ex machina whimper. (SK is still one of my favorite authors nonetheless). Even then, Stephen King is a much better author, JA manages to make wild sex seem boring.
I think her testimony leads to a weak conclusion, cross examination is limited, and the real ket to the case is her expert witness who tries to make sense of it. I think Martinez saves his big guns for the cross of the expert and his closing arguments. A long cross of JA may come across as bullying of an under-matched opponent.
I agree on strategy but I do not think Martinez has the capacity to pretend their is no blood in the water. No pun intended.
B
Exactly B!!
That’s what I don’t get either…Gus says he attempted to reach out to the prosecution numerous times with info and never rec’d a call back. I am very curious as to why the prosecution didn’t seem to have any interest in what he had to offer…even way back in 2008 when Gus supposedly made these attempts.
IF any of what Gus said is true, and again that is a big IF… this would be a major miss for the prosecution IMO.
But…there is ALWAYS a but, I have to wonder if Gus is to be believed since he was supposedly her mentor and friend..it certainly seems he was anxious to sell her out on TV last night.
I can’t decide if he is just spewing forth garbage to keep the media interested so he can get more than his 15 minutes or if he is being truthful and figures at this point, why not tell his big secret to the media as a slap in the face to the prosecution since they couldn’t be bothered with what he had to say..
It will be interesting to see if this comes up in court from either side…the defenses of course will already have a way for Jodi to explain it away like she does with everything else…don’t you just love how she has an answer, excuse, story, or general BS at the ready to easily explain away anything and everything…I doubt she will be as quick on her toes with ready made excuses on cross..but we shall see….eventually, hopefully sometime before the end of this century….
Nurmi moved one day forward and then back 2 weeks..one day forward, back 6 months, one day forward, back 3 years….could we just continue in a forward progression in time, really is that too much to ask? Sorry that has been driving me nuts and I’m being snarky
She not only physically trashed Travis to death, she’s trashing his memory….in front of the world and his family. I hope to God she gets her “comeuppance “. She’s “soul-less”.
FriendLY, up and ‘aboot’, just for you! Verdi on the canuck
@ Malty, thanks for the love, friendy. I officially survived and feel like me old self.
I’ll keep this short and sweet. I cannot wait for the pros to question this sex crazed, underpaid hooker. I want to see her squirm in that chair which she thinks is the spotlight. My personal observation is that she is LOVING this and feeling quite at home on the stand. PLEASE!!!!! MAKE THE SEX GO AWAY!!!!
She has no idea what’s coming and that brings me great gratification.
1. @A Texas Grandfather says:
February 13, 2013 at 5:52 pm
It is strange that so far there is little or no evidence that abuse ever took place. Some abused women will be so ashamed that they will hide the abuse, but they usually have someone that they confide in. Does anyone find it strange that Jodi seems to have no real close girl friends. This is another sign of sociopathy.
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ATG – I was sexually abused by my father for several years as a child. (I also had reason to believe that my mom at least suspected something was going on but never did anything to approach it. More on this below.) As the cycle goes, I grew up and married someone just like him except that he was a mild schizophrenic, alcoholic and extremely abusive in all ways. Extreme violence, emotional and verbal lashings, mental mind games and sexual assault were a daily occurrence. Hiding it was not out of shame. It was fear of retaliation. Abusers isolate their victims. In my father’s case, he managed to turn me against my mom. It took YEARS to realize that and start making amends. In the process, I learned a strong distrust of women that still lingers 30 years later. In my ex-husband’s case, all contact outside of work was strictly forbidden or monitored, when allowed. I don’t necessarily find it strange that she has no close girl friends. I tend to believe IF JA’s shortage of friends is related to abuse that it is related to childhood/teenage abuse. TA didn’t cause something like that in such a short period of time and it doesn’t seem she had female friends before TA. However, if all of the reports of her “close friends” in jail are true, it blows any rational theory out of the water and she’s probably just a sociopath
1. Sammy says:
February 14, 2013 at 12:48 am
I sincerely hope I’m not offending any true and real victims of abuse that may be reading. That is not my intent at all.
I’ve been there myself in the past, and know how insidious it is and how extremely difficult it us to break the cycle.
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Just pre-empting here – no offense taken!
1. Jden says:
February 14, 2013 at 8:11 am
To recap, we have unilateral texting, nude photos but none of physical abuse, no diary notations of physical abuse and not one friend or confidant stepping forward to testify in that manner, and most notable a sex tape of Arias teasing Travis into sexual desires and proclaiming her delight in their fantasies even after all this physical abuse occurred.
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EXACTLY! As I said before, anyone in that situation who has an opportunity to escape runs like hell and never looks back. An abuser can force compliance with his/her needs, wants and desires. What they can’t do is force a seemingly positive, engaging emotional response. Abuse is about control. She was NOT controlled from 1,000 miles away. Change your number, block/un-friend on social media and ignore any contact attempts. It’s not that difficult. I know from whence I speak!
And just one more note on that – Before I was safely able to escape (which required help from my family and a lot of planning), I had attempted twice prior. I don’t need to go into all of that except my point is I finally made the decision to leave based on two factors. One was my kids. The other is that I knew beyond any doubt that one of us was going to die sooner rather than later. I didn’t want to go to the grave or jail, so I left. There is NO WAY anyone is going to convince me this was self-defense or that she was abused by TA and this was her only way out. NO WAY.
Sorry for the length. AJMO
Twitch says:
February 14, 2013 at 1:20 am
(snipped) “Sooo..this is what Gus meant by having info that could hurt Jodi ~ IF we can believe Gus (big IF)…..he says Jodi called him in tears at 3am AFTER killing Travis and told Gus that Travis was dead…oh to have been a fly in the focus for that convo…that is to say IF that convo really happened.”
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I don’t get it…why didn’t Gus promptly call the police with the info? It’s after the fact now she’s admitted she dunnit.
Wait a dog gone minute….Gus the clown on in session today stated that Jodi called him at 3:30am crying hysterically and said Travis is dead..when he asked her where she was she said Northern California and that she was renting a car….what!?!
That makes zero sense…he alluded that he thought she called him immediately after he was killed (well he died late afternoon on June 4th so the call would have been early morning June 5th)…told him she didn’t know what happened i.e. how he was killed but that Travis was dead…at that point she should have been on the way to Utah. Yet she tells Gus that she washing Northern, CA and was going to rent a car when he asked her if she needed a ride anywhere….hmmmm seems to me she was planting info in the event she got caught…anyone else agree?
I would be very interested to see if phone records can confirm this. Gus the clown even said..pull the phone records to confirm this…so if it wasn’t true why tell everyone to check the phone records…he obviously thinks that it can easily be validated as fact.
Don’t get me wrong, I still think there is something completely wonky with Gus…I mean he says he talked to a friend about her call and then AFTER she was arrested he made attempts to contact the prosecutors office, but never made attempts to contact authorities or anyone else previsually…why didn’t he attempt to call anyone after Jodi’s initial hysterical call at 3:30am….why didn’t he call the police back then, even as an anonymous tipster or something..Travis’s body could have been recovered much sooner…
This is craziness…but that seems to be the norm in this case…..
*Yet she tells Gus she was in Northern, CA* not washing…ugh silly tablet touch screens lol!!
Sorry for the multiple posts…but WHY would Travis borrow $$ from Jodi who, pardon my expression, didn’t have a pot to piss in. Has anyone heard if there was any indication if Travis was having any financial issues? I can’t fathom he would have asked her of all people for money even if he was having some kind of financial problems.
I am not following the whole car thing
B
Does Domestic Abuse equal walking on your own free will into your ex-boyfriend’s home (who you were never living with), possessing a gun and a knife, having consensual sex, then proceed to methodically murder him using both weapons, try to cover up the crime, then lie to police about your involvement..? The woman is a nut case. Unfortunately the charges against her don’t include severe mental illness.
Twitch says:
February 14, 2013 at 3:40 pm
Has anyone heard if there was any indication if Travis was having any financial issues?
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Hi Twitch,
Yes, there was testimony by Lisa Andrews that Travis was having financial difficulties. She said that the second time they broke up was because Travis was having financial difficulties and he felt he couldn’t be attentive to her.
@B
Are you talking about not following the car thing Gus said? Or?
We know she was in Mesa on 6/4 and driving a rental car she rented in Redding, CA and headed to Utah soon after the slaughter to meet up with her next victim.
She told Gus in the very early morning hours of 6/5 that she was in Northern, CA at that moment and was going to rent a car when Gus asked her if she needed a ride anywhere…
So…if Gus the Clown is telling the truth….why did she call him of all people the morning after killing Travis and say she was in northern CA and was going to rent a car to get to AZ when she was no where near northern CA, had already been to AZ and was already driving a rental car? Hoping she could work this into an alibi perhaps?
I still think it’s odd Gus didn’t call anyone until AFTER her arrest….
What great posts by everybody. I rushed home from work wondering what I may have been missing in court to see a day off- but it’s so nice to see so much discussion.
Regarding Gus. I see he is talking with jeancasares this afternoon. Martinez thinks he wants the limelight, but I suspect he also finds he has some baggage along with his limelight, because he’s avoiding him like a 10ft pole.
There is definitely, imo, some wacky family dysfunction at the Arias home. Younger brother appears a bit medicated, sister apparently has had drug and or etoh addiction, Jodi has huge issues. And yes, mother hmm, I bet she rules the roost. And Dad is obviously very ill. I suspect 10-15 yrs ago it was rather interesting in that house.
Glad you are safe and sound Survivor.
@ Survivor
…you are! I just want to give you the biggest hug. God bless you and your journey with continued healthy, comfort and love.
One of my favourite quotes for all my BOC friendies:
“Promise me you’ll always remember: You’re braver than you believe, and stronger than you seem, and smarter than you think.”
— Christopher Robin to Winnie the Pooh
@ Lyla….praying you both get better soon!
I just learned TODAY, I HAVE the A strain of H1N1. The hospital neglected to tell me upon discharge. This is the severe strain. Y’all need to stay healthy! Wash your hands frequently; cough/sneeze into your sleeve or into the inside of your shirt/jacket….NOT INTO YOUR HANDS! Stay home and rest, if you’re sick. FLU SHOTS! I wish this on no one. The lethargy goes on. I got it from my son, who also has the same strain. If you don’t have your flu shot but have a sick child….face masks are a good idea. Other than that, I’m better and better. Thank you all for the kindness. I shant bring this up again as it’s irrelevant to Travis’ murder and . My main concern is passing along info that will keep y’all healthy. My only intent <3 <3 <3
Sorry for being off topic
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I'm reeling wrt to defendant's testimony on the stand. Buckle up kids….this girl is feeling the rage.
I don't get why the talking heads aren't getting this. It's so simple. They were 2 people with severe issues. Travis had a hard time saying no to Jodi and Jodi wasn't letting go, despite rejection. I haven't heard the entire 'sexstory', but from what I did hear, there were 2 consenting adults, involved in graphic and derogatory conversation. If Jodi felt Travis crossed lines, well…there's this high tech button on the phone for sitches like this. The off button. Hang up, trollop! As for the texts, we're only seeing a one way conversation. Obviously, it appears Travis is attacking Jodi, unfairly. To assess the convo properly, one needs to see both sides. I have no doubt Jodi enticed and enabled Travis to talk like a sex craved lunatic. She willfully participated. She giggled. She got off (ew ew ew). Even when Travis tried to divert the conversation, Jodi, herself, would leer him back to the sex. I didn't here her complain when he said she had a hot booty. I heard a giggle and a thank you AND attempts to fish 4 more compliments about her body. "Oh stop, I do not have the hottest booty but go on, Travis". Her part was not contrived or put on for Travis' sake or ego. She wasn't scared. She wasn't insulted. She was loving every minute of it. That's what I heard and I pray the jury heard it too. All we got is her word and Travis is dead, so his story can't be told. As we all know, there's always 3 sides; his story, her story and the truth. I just don't see Jodi's testimony as being bankable, solid and saving her life. Then again, anything is possible, but I can't believe the defense is relying on Jodi, alone, to save her life. It's not enough, imho.
I can't wait to see the evidence of physical harm done to her by Travis (snark fest). So far, there's been no evidence of psychological trauma since the woman is an emotional monotone robot, incapable of deep emotion. It's just her words and they're shallow.
Honestly, if I was a juror, the bottom line would be….why did she feel she needed to 'overkill' Travis. At the end of the day, he died a brutal death, and no doubt suffered before expiring. That alone is enough, for me, imho, for her to get the death penalty. If it was Travis who took Jodi's life, despite her being a slutty, easy, good time harlot, I would still feel the same. A human life was taken. It was homicide and it must be punishable. Nothing that Travis allegedly did to her, warrants the end of his life from this earth. Trim the fat, lies and embellishments and keep it to the simple truth…Travis is gone, forever because Jodi killed him. The haunting photos of Travis staring into the camera (it never ceases to make me cry), the blood bath and the one of him dead, slumped at the bottom of his shower, almost headless with 29 butcher wounds AND a bullet in the brain, is everything the jury needs to reach a verdict. I realize Travis is not so innocent, but he doesn't have the luxury of standing up for himself like Gyrating Jodi. AND….just how faithful was she to him? I highly doubt she sat around all faithful n shat whilst Travis was sowing here and there. She can't go for that length of time without 'it', not to mention she needs the male attention. Just something to take the edge of until Travis comes around.
I can't tell y'all how good it feels to pound that out. Totally therapeutic
O my FriendLY- if it makes you feel any better, I have only been getting flu shots for about 5 years after GETTING the flu one Spring. Feel better.
B
I am not sure that the defense is intending that their defense lead the jury to conclude that Jodi is gilty of the crime,but should be given a lesser sentence because she IS mentally unbalanced.
If the people under Travis were not being productive, then he would feel it in the upper tiers of the pyramid. I know Gus Searcy said Prepaid Legal was NOT a pyramid scheme, but the set up is the same. If your people under you are not signing people up and moving the product and taking in money, then your well doth runneth dry at the top. Perhaps Travis was having a dry spell and needed money to pay bills. You can be on top of the world one minute, and the next, the bottom can fall out if your people don’t put effort into selling. That’s why you have to constantly motivate your people and constantly be on the look-out for new blood. Gus Searcy may have been more successful because he put more time in than others. You have to do it full time and then some in order to keep your people motivated. Maybe Travis should have been motivating his people instead of letting JA play sex toy with him? Just sayin’ – perhaps she was dragging him down in more ways than one. She wanted all his attention and he wasn’t in touch with his people under him the way he should have been? It doesn’t take long for the bottom to fall out when your people start dropping out. Did he suddenly decide to become serious about Prepaid Legal again and that’s why he was happy to see Jodi gone? (Well – for a while anyway.)
Thank you @Joan T for clearing that up for me!!
Happy Valentines Guys-
pale rider says:
February 13, 2013 at 2:41 pm
Im sorry to hear about your mishap with the tree-
Thanks for complimenting my thoughts Pale Rider- and for offering up your own pain as proof that JA is a liar.
Survivor and TGF shared much the same thing right about the same time, and that makes me feel better about catching jodi in lies with personal experiences-
TGF called Bs so did survivor and then you weighed in with your own experience- i have to believe that there is one person on that jury that will be able to do the same and expalin the whys to the rest who may have a doubt…
Another thing about this so called “incident”- the finger again it just not true- even if the kick did not hurt her…she wants us to believe her hand was hurt badly,her finger broken- ….UMMMM who could crawl quietly on just such a hand? – her fingers broken – She is hurt- and she crawls over to the doorway to see who Travis is greeting at the door downstairs? but she doesnt yell out or call for help ? NO way
Pammy you wrote:
February 13, 2013 at 9:11 am
Regarding Jodi’s “deformed” finger, I call BS. It was lying perfectly straight when she was not consciously trying to keep it bent.–
-Good observation Pammy (BTW I hope u r feeling better)
i do think JA is trying to play it up for the jury- at the same time i do believe it is not perfectly straight-
Which just doesnt happen when it has been set with Popsicle sticks – thats basically what Drs will do… so if Travis set it, it would be relatively straight – So is that another lie?
TGF brought up an interesting theory if they were rough housing together kick boxing- or something….
I can see Travis hurting her finger and setting it..and i can envision Jodi taking the bandages off wanting it to heal crooked so she could make Travis feel bad and so she could garner sympathy from him and from everyone
IDK what happened but i will never believe JAs lame story about the “incident” on the how and when and why of those injuries
heres the thing- I just dont get-
obviously her finger is not so injured that she cant drive, write, draw- snap pics or masturbate- nor did this injury prevent her from stabbing, slashing or pulling a trigger -
So really the jurys supposed to garner up enough sympathy for her to believe she feared for her life? that she acted in self defense because Travis supposedly once broke her finger?
the facts and common sense just are not backing up JAs remembrances
Besides the cut to JAs hand- and possibly some scratches- JA had no injuries on June 4 no defensive injuries no black eyes- no bruised ribs no bruises period- Remember her little get together with Ryan? She didnt complain about soreness she was agile and seemed just fine.
When did Travis abuse her physically? all we have is her word noone else can remember her with any marks except the finger and once with marks around her throat.
well we know from the phone tape that they were both into role playing- and one of those roles was rapist and victim (common fantasy) perhaps that was how those marks happened(if there were any)
Which brings to mind for me June 4th and may play into premeditation-what Travis said on the tape he was looking forward to pics and taping their escapades and even was thinking costumes and a script etc-
perhaps that is how the desk scene played out in reality- then later the roles were reversed..the duct tape chastity belt was a prop- perhaps they were role playing just such a scenario Travis is the virginal guy Jodi is the evil temptress according to her script..
then later she brings the gun and the knife into the shower and makes him think it is a spontaneous scene… they weapons are “props” and Travis plays along thinking …okay.. right up until the point where she attacks for real..
AJMO
peace
still trying to catch up-
Futureman says:
February 13, 2013 at 1:04 pm
Thanks for the laugh- i hope you succeeded in finding the right V-day present for future woman..Lol
Re-oneilgirl75 says:
February 13, 2013 at 1:17 pm
You wrote in part;
Martinez objects and says something along the lines of “is that the part when she says she likes it” I mean come on people. I think he has been behaving pretty well considering. I say that one was a freebie!
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Yes that was a great moment and pretty much sums up a big cundrum for the jury-
Jodi was immortalized on tape seemingly enjoying every aspect of their sexual relationship-
how was Travis to know when Jodi wasnt “into” it any more? Did they have a safe word? i mean here she is telling us and the jury that she just went along with everything to make Travis happy..okay i get that i can understand that- but How was Travis supposed to KNOW that? I mean she wants us to believe that it was abusive but here she telling Travis be more freaky be more debasing–
truly its just like with faking orgasms to please your partner…if you do that then how are they supposed to learn how to actually please you? How are they supposed to know your likes and dislikes, you know?
If you tell a person hey i really like to be degraded and I love role playing and being a porn star…then how are they supposed to know you really dont ?
Seriously JA has went on for days and days saying how she did all of it everything to please Travis she acted a certain way dressed a certain way —
Cant the same be true for Travis? What if he was trying to please her the same way? trying to be into the things she SAID she was into? Trying to act the way that pleased her in the past?
What a sad notion to ponder.
oneilgirl75 says
February 13, 2013 at 1:38 pm
Thanks onegirl and thank you for walking me off that ledge i do think you are right Nurmi and Jodi could not pull off such theatrics.
AJMO
Peace
@ Ragdoll
Thank you and hugs back to you! I’ve come a long way since then and thanks for providing the most fitting quote.
* conundrum
Jden says:
February 14, 2013 at 8:11 am just noticed you commented on the finger too- interesting POV
sammy great post
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It’s straight out out the classic “cycle of abuse wheel” that is employed by psychologists and at women’s safe
houses to help TRUE victims of physical/emotional/sexual abuse realize the trap they are stuck in.
1) Phase #1 … Tension builds (victim feels the need to placate her abuser)
2) Phase #2 … The Incident (verbal, sexual, emotional or physical abuse)
3) Phase #3 … Reconciliation (abuser apologizes or minimizes)
4) Phase #4 … The Calm (often called the Honeymoon Phase)
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Survivor ((hugs))
you wrote in part:
TA didn’t cause something like that in such a short period of time
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You guys are SOOO right-
We have to remember that this was a very short LONG distance romance- I hate to use Jodis terminology but they were only “officially” dating for 5 months- and most of it was apart physically and both were dating – there was no bond formed there was no mental breakdown and rebuilding of her psyche
That cycle takes time to form and both the abuser and the victim play a part. I dont think there was enough time or emotion etc to form such a complex DV relationship-
Jodi admits she was pushing Travis buttons as much ashe was hers
true victims that have been pushed so hard they snap and kill have lived a long time with abuses- they dont push buttons they have learned NOT to. they live walking eggshells from moment to moment- they know that ANYTHING can set the abuser off-
Jodi has let certain things slip like she demanded Travis delete the pics…umm an abuser does not take kindly to anything like a demand and if Travis was an abuser he would not care about Jodis comfort or embarrassment in fact he would have taken any such demand as a challlenfge and he would have denied her the ability to delete the pics just to spite her (even if later for his own safety he would have deleted)
another of jodis stories where she talks of Travis hiding his little boy pics- an abuser wouldnt hide anything he would not need to for his victim would be under his thumb…
another story that doesnt not ring true for an abuser is Travis agreeing to give Jodi his passwords to build trust… build trust- why would he care? he was dating other girls- what trust?
No way – if he would have tricked her like that and then immediately changed his back MAYBE but he didnt- an abuser does not give up or barter with control. they own it
AJMO
Ps my thoughts on gus and why he wasnt called is he is not truthful-
As soon as Travis was discovered IF that story was true gus would have been on the phone or on a plan or at a meeting telling his story to whomever-
Travis was dead and he would now know Jodi knew it before anyone- a woman that stayed at his place a woman who he gave his phone to-
besides sharing his story- he would have been eager to make sure he was not implicated by his association- he is strange but hes not stupid.
AJMO
Peace
Twitch says:
February 14, 2013 at 10:48 am
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Nurmi moved one day forward and then back 2 weeks..one day forward, back 6 months, one day forward, back 3 years….could we just continue in a forward progression in time, really is that too much to ask? Sorry that has been driving me nuts and I’m being snarky
hey Twitch -
This really bugs me too- and I think he may be doing this to confuse the jury about the actual time line and the actual # of incidents to include confusion over the actual short period of time the two dated- etc.
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Phew i am caught up i think- great posts everyone enjoy time with your loved ones today & this weekend-
My prayers to Travis’ family and my prayers to Jodis family also-
AJMO Peace
I think Gus is begging for media attention, mostly because I think Martinez has already scrutinized him thoroughly. I also think Jodi’s cell phone records have been gone over with a fine-toothed comb. If Martinez didn’t know she called him shortly after the murder, he likely does now with all the media hoopla.
I have a good feeling about Martinez, that he is honing his focus on this case and will be good and ready for his cross with Jodi. He has displayed remarkable restraint since she took the stand and it speaks well for him. She will be no match for him; he is no-nonsense and won’t be gentle with her. He will go for the jugular like Jodi went for Travis’ jugular. I don’t think she will be any match for what he has in store for her.
I see psychological issues with Jodi, but not buying that she’s been traumatized into that state. More likely blind to a bigger, better way to live than as a narcissistic, stereotypical female who desperately needs a male to complete her. She obviously has great potential in many areas of life, but squandered it all on sex as a means to romantic love. A very narrow approach to life, which offers so much more in the greater scheme. It is very sad that she was so incapable of reeling in her primal rage before she destroyed the life of another while simultaneously destroying her own. She managed to destroy both in the span of seconds on June 4, 2008.
I would agree with previous comments that she continues to revel in the destruction of Travis’ reputation and character. She is still stabbing him in the back, yet another argument for keeping her behind bars to avoid another similar scenario. She still doesn’t “get it”, she has tunnel vision and cannot see what a blind fool she has been. If she is locked away permanently there will be no chance for redemption for Jodi, but I don’t think she has left the court much choice.
My heart breaks to hear your history of abuse, Survivor, and it is reassuring to know you are a survivor. The world can be so very harsh, but it can also be equally kind and caring. If I had a magic wand, I would use it to take the pain away for all those who have been victimized and leave them whole and free. My mother recently took in a rescue dog who was at death’s door from abuse and neglect. It has taken months, but the little guy who couldn’t play and lived in fear is slowly peeking out from his fear and partaking of the joy life has to offer. There is a sparkle in his eyes and the tail that never knew how to wag has begun to do just that. We are all more resilient than we know.
Thanks for sharing more of your story Survivor. I know how difficult it is to get away from such a situation you found yourself.
My wife has a younger friend that she more or less took under her wing when the friend’s husband at age 24 died from cancer of the liver. About two years later the young woman found a guy that she liked and they got married. Lord what a mistake that was! Within a year he had moved her from Houston were her family and fiends lived to Denver. Then he made her sell her car and she was totally isolated. This guy was really a nut case. He controled everything she did. They had a child together and she was able to send a message to my wife inside the notice of christening of the baby. It was not pretty.
At any rate, they were able to establish communication via notes hidden inside of cards and packages. My wife asked her to go to public telephone and call collect so they could figure out what to do to get her away from the guy.
She planned her escape over a period of months. She packed a small bag for herself and one for the boy. My wife sent her money by Western Union and one night after midnight she took the car keys she had made secretly loaded the bags and the child into the car. She rolled the car down the driveway without turning on the engine and then as per our instruction she drove East into Kansas to eleminate the possibility of him sending the police after her.
She called from a truck stop at 5:00 A.M. in Kansas to let us know she was on her way. She was a mess when she arrived in Houston a day later. So yes, I have experience with the difficulty in escaping such a situation. This was in the early 70′s. She like you got her life together and is now 69 years old. People who care about the well being of others do what is necessary to help with difficult situations.
This story hit my bullseye. How awful, but how wonderful you and Mrs. ATG were able to help her.
Happy Valentines to the original Valentines
B
but you guys…
She baked cookies. They were EVERYWHERE.
SO . MANY . COOKIES .
Sorry, I just couldn’t help myself after that part of her testimony.
In no way was Jodi not the main aggressor in this situation. I don’t doubt that Travis used her, and I don’t think he had any other intention except sex with her.
She is no shrinking violet, and she is no abused woman.
Arias, nailed –
http://sociopathicstyle.com/traits/classic.htm
And –
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Are_sociopaths_capable_of_feeling_sadness_guilt_or_regret_and_do_they_ever_feel_bad_even_if_it_is_only_for_themselves
Martinez has maintained a patient composure. He will be successful in cross by fact checking and nailing her to her statements.
Good cross advice –
http://pathwhisperer.wordpress.com/2010/03/04/quadruple-search-today-how-to-cross-examine-a-sociopath/
Sociopaths often take scenes from movies and books to weave into their stories. Martinez needs to do some research to uncover the portions of Jodi’s story that are taken from fiction and confront her regarding them.
IMO Martinez needs to make Jodi angry on the stand when he gets into the time frame of the murder so that she will in her anger spit out the truth.
Heart u
B
I’m so glad we were spared testimony on Valentine’s Day. Happy Valentine’s day all.
I came across this article in the Huffington Post, and Dr. Scott Bonn (who was on the Scared Monkeys radio show with Blink talking about this case) is quoted:
“Her [testimony] seems staged and rehearsed, she seems unnatural and plastic,” Dr. Scott Bonn, a crime expert and assistant professor of sociology at Drew University told The Huffington Post. “Her demeanor and emotions on the witness stand do not match the shocking nature of what she is discussing.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/10/jodi-arias-testimony_n_2646928.html
Isn’t that exactly what’s so weird in this?
And even before she killed him, when she was talking to him on the phone on the tape, the last thing you would think would happen two weeks after that phone call would be murder. I wonder if she trembled when Travis got mad at her because of FURY, not fear. Like she kept her demeanor and emotions normal but the fury was bubbling up, making her tremble. It will be really weird if she keeps this measured, calm demeanor when she describes killing him.
From the article:
Similar to Bonn, Dr. Maurice Godwin, a criminal forensic psychologist from Fayetteville, NC, said he sees little emotion in Arias’ testimony.
“Jodi clearly has salient signs of psychopathy,” said Godwin, who has not professionally treated Arias. “She has no affect during the trial or while testifying. The lack of affect is beyond being coached by her defense team. There is a disconnect between the violent nature of her actions, the crime itself and the normal empathy that she should be displaying, especially if it was really self-defense.”
Christy, LOL about the cookies.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0C4GQw5lSSM
Gus Searcy states on Dr. Drew, “The night Travis died, I got a call from Jodi at 330 in the morning crying hysterically that Travis was dead.” She told GS she was in northern California.
@Christy
Omg the cookies LOL!!!
Interestingly enough if you read through any of Lisa Andrews blog from back in the day she talks about baking cookies at Travis’ s place….
Does Jodi have one single original thought in her head? Everything she says seems to be borrowed from other peoples experiences or movies….she is always referring to movies…
jden says:
February 15, 2013 at 10:40 am
jden, I read every single one of the links you posted and wow, how disturbing. Especially the link that said that a sociopathic juror might side with her. To think that there could be sociopathic jurors and sociopaths working in the court system is disturbing enough, but that they SIDE with each other. I don’t know, it seems so complicated and well, disturbing.
I’m trying to figure out if Jodi A. really is a psychopath/sociopath. She seemed to be caring and loving to her ex-boyfriends and to other friends current and from her past. It seems evident that she loves her family very much, especially her younger brother and sister. All of these people seem to love her still and they stand by her. She says she’s always loved animals (although your article said that isn’t part of the description).
As far as the lying goes, I haven’t heard of a history of lying. The only lying she’s done is to cover up murdering Travis, and I guess criminals do that. But she’s not like CA, who lied about everything, sometimes for no apparent reason.
She has zero criminal past. She seems to have been a responsible person until around the time she met Travis, from what her ex-boyfriend says. When her ex-boyfriends cheated on her, or in the case of the most recent, didn’t want to get married, she was upset, but she moved on. She remained friends with them. (I laughed when she pointed out to Det. Flores that they’re all still alive. She would have made the worst defense lawyer.)
She seemed to want what everyone else wants at her age, marriage, a family, and she had realistic goals for her work. She seems to have been able to communicate all of that in the past.
On the other hand, there is that weird disconnect like that Dr. Godwin points out:
“Jodi clearly has salient signs of psychopathy,” said Godwin, who has not professionally treated Arias. “She has no affect during the trial or while testifying. The lack of affect is beyond being coached by her defense team. There is a disconnect between the violent nature of her actions, the crime itself and the normal empathy that she should be displaying, especially if it was really self-defense.”
Plus, going off to meet her new boyfriend and acting like NOTHING happened after she killed Travis seems like a psychopath/sociopath (not sure which one) to me!
According to the links, if she were a psychopath/sociopath, she would have always been one, it’s a neurological thing with the brain and the way information is processed, but she doesn’t seem to have been one in the past. It seems like she became a psychopath/sociopath in 2006, but that’s impossible. She sure does seem like one now.
Do you know why I think she was able to go on the date in Utah with her new boyfriend and act like nothing happened? I think she was glad that she had killed Travis. That she was somehow satisfied. That he had hurt her pride and infuriated her to a point that she may STILL be glad he’s gone. I don’t think she regrets it at all, although she may miss him sometimes. So I guess that’s a psychopath/sociopath. Right? Because if someone else were to cross her, she would do it again, except she’d plan it better. She’s just a mean a$$ed murderer.
UNLESS it really was in self defense, but that sure is looking doubtful. If it WAS in self defense, then she probably would have been mourning like crazy. She loved him after all. She wouldn’t have gone off to Utah and been so enthusiastic about her date and meeting with friends and so on. She would have been clear out of her mind with grief. So really, she’s ODD.
Anyway, sorry for such a long post. I’m wondering if anyone else is confused about whether or not Jodi is a sociopath, and if not, what is she? Thanks for posting those links. They were very interesting.
Wonderful posts from everyone!
Mom3.0 thanks for your sweet words.
Ragdoll glad you made it through the flu.
Survivor, I’m amazed again at your strength and courage.
Has there been any mention of bi-polar illness in JAs family? When I listened to the snippet of the sex phone call, her voice was manic. This is an area I’ve got quite a bit of experience in.
Re-thinking the events so far revealed of JAs and Travis’s history, she exhibits bi-polar, BPD, and maybe even ADD/ADHD traits.
JA has made herself a victim in her mind, but the only person who could claim need of self defense is Travis. JA left him dead in the shower, dead, naked, defenseless. No weapons near him. It was HIS blood found everywhere, not hers.
She left him to be found naked, not covered up.
That tells me she had no love for him, no remorse. She wanted him debased and humiliated. And now she’s doing it all over again.
I do think she’s a monster. How she got there IDK. I do believe she deserves LWOP.
ATG said – IMO Martinez needs to make Jodi angry on the stand when he gets into the time frame of the murder so that she will in her anger spit out the truth.
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Amen!!!
@Joan T. JAs demeanor on the stand also mystifies me. She talks to the jury like she’s describing a regular day in the life of Jodi.
The doctor’s right, her manner is totally incongruent to the events she describes and the heinousness of the crime.
I think Martinez has to get her angry on the stand too, but only about things that really matter. His badgering her about the e-mail the other day, and whether it was forwarded or not, made him seem just ornery about a point that didn’t matter IMO. If the e-mail were forwarded to Travis, it would still say TO: Travis… in the address line. It was a mystery to me as to what he was getting at. I think he has to get her angry at points where we’re all asking the same question at the same point in her testimony. The overkill, for example.
@Mom3.0
I agree…this jumping back and forth by Nurmi is definitely a confusion/stalling tactic. I think he is trying to muddy the minds of the jurors by switching up dates and interactions between Jodi and Travis….creating chaos and confusion in hopes the will dwell on trying to get a bunch of non-essential junk to make sense and possibly lose sight of the more important facts and evidence…or in this case lack of evidence that Jodi is a victim of abuse.
I think at least part of the jury has to be able to see this for what it truly is and it will not sit well with them. No one likes to feel as if they have been”duped” if you will and that is precisely what they are trying to do.
I think the defense knows that Jodi is not making a good or sincere impression on the stand and therefore looking for ways to distract the jury until they can come up with a better game plan….unfortunately for them I think all of the stalling tactics to draw out arriving to the date of the crime is not going to work in their favors. So as much as it pains me to have to listen to all of her ridiculous and unnecessary droning, if it backfires and ends in a conviction, I will gladly endure
@pale rider. I’m not a psychiatrist; haven’t examined her or taken a history, and can ‘t therefore diagnose, but she looks BPD as hell to me, which is enough for ber deed. and I fear both may have had (in her case comorbid) underlying substance issues of some kind.
@Joan T. re “she seems to have been a responsible person until…”
I don’t think so because keep in mind she dropped out of high school despite her intelligence
& verbal fluency and had no GED til in the pokey. And I bet she was sexually promiscuous
in those years as well.
@ A Texas Grandfather says:
February 14, 2013 at 10:21 pm
You and your lovely wife are earth angels. “Well done, good and faithful servant”. His words to your heart.
Thank you for sharing and reminding us that goodness within the human spirit still thrives. I’ve met so many great hearts @ BOC, and it’s been a God send! The state of the world tears at my me everyday. Thank you my dear friendLY and my blinksters for keeping hope and community between each other, alive and abundant. Thank you for caring about me and other strangers, especially those who need your voices of justice and advocacy, the way y’all do. God answered my prayers. True story <3
May God keep you all within His merciful, loving arms. xo xo xo
Did you notice that on the tape when they were talking about their favorite superheroes Travis said Batman and especially the Green Lantern were his favorites but he didn’t mention Spiderman??
Also, if Travis damaged her finger before she moved back to Yrekas, then shouldn’t there be witnesses in Yrekas to say her finger was hurt and crooked in April and May in Yrekas? BEFORE June 4th?
They did discuss SPiderman.
B
All of the talk about past relationships, her hurtful life of abuse (eye roll), and TAs control and sexual preferences is just a side show. She has to get to the facts about the day she killed TA and that’s going to be when the jury sits up to take notice.
Prosecution is going to tear her apart. She’s had a lot of time to talk and the prosecutor has been patiently letting her blather, all the while gathering the inconsistencies.
Since she’s viewed as a psychopath or sociopath, prosecution is going to play her insecurities against her. Calling her a liar and every other negative thing she doesnt want to be called in front of the jury. Liars cant keep their stories straight, that’s part of how it plays out. So it wont be difficult to get her tangled in more (obvious) lies and inconsistencies as she’s questioned.
The methods Prosecution is using fits exactly how to cross-examine a psychopath. The interrogator did the same. As I watched the video of her the interrogator would let her ramble on, draw complex paths all over the house, and sit patiently while she painted a HUGE lie. Then he dropped the bomshell on her that he had evidence to prove she was there and did it. He gave her just enough to let her know he knew…and nothing more, then he would say “I dont believe a word you are telling me Jodi and I never will. You did this. I was hoping you would be honest but you are not.” And then he said “Are you ready to go back to your cell?” So he dismissed her. She had to go back to her cell and think about that. I know it bugged her so much she couldnt stand it. She finally had to come clean and admit she was there and did it…and that’s how the self defense strategy started. But she didnt think it through so she’s going to continue to create the web of lies until she tangles herself completely in it. The jury will see it.
She thinks she is fooling the jury with her act. But what I see and hear reinforces what she did. It doesnt make me think she’s innocent. Of course, defense just needs one juror who feels sorry for her and has some doubt to stop her from being put to death. Just one.
Her emotions do not match what she says on the stand. People who kill in self defense feel remorse…and it’s difficult to talk about trauma…but she’s calm as a cucumber about it. A little too calm. It’s creepy/scary.
Judgement day is coming…soon.
Mom3.0 says:
February 14, 2013 at 9:12 pm
Twitch says:
February 14, 2013 at 10:48 am
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Nurmi moved one day forward and then back 2 weeks..one day forward, back 6 months, one day forward, back 3 years….could we just continue in a forward progression in time, really is that too much to ask? Sorry that has been driving me nuts and I’m being snarky
hey Twitch -
This really bugs me too- and I think he may be doing this to confuse the jury about the actual time line and the actual # of incidents to include confusion over the actual short period of time the two dated- etc.
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Mom and Twitch..
This bothered me as well. It seems he started out in chronologic order and then just as we get to the time weeks before the actual reason everyone is here for he draws us back to earlier dates. It does create confusion and this is why I hope that the prosecution starts out with thanking Miss A on her vivid recollection and then follows with a chronologic account of her testimony. I think the defense showed us her motives not her abuse. I think the prosecution can show this. Jodi was able to give him the sexual favors that many young healthy unmarried men desire. She may not have liked it but for him she did it. She was a beautiful, well spoken, cookie baking, house cleaning, Mormon converted, sexually charged lady. She thought who could ask for more. Maybe Travis thought after her baptism she would be a beautiful, well spoken, cookie baking, house cleaning, Mormon, behaving, lady. She was not any different than before. Her willing sexuality was her undoing for wife material for Travis but it was Jodi’s only unique draw for Travis’ attention. She tried to show him her mental acuity with the proof reading and editing on his book and he did not even give her any credit for it. That had to really pizz her off.
One last thought….When Travis was singing the “Stars Spangle Banner” he comes to the part that says “that star spangle banner still waving” and he says instead that star Spanglish banner still waving…I had to think about the movie Spanglish…I bet Travis liked movies and it makes me feel that the spider man undies were related to the Charlie’s Angels movie. Wouldn’t it be interesting if an inventory of Travis’ videos showed he had that video.
Pale Rider
I agree that Jodi could be bi-polar as well as a sociopath. The ADHD part is IMO not very likely. In fact, I think most of the AHD and ADHD diagnosis are for monetary gain and have nothing to do with a disease.
Sociopaths do not have empathy in their make-up. A bi-polar person can change in an instant from one who is calm and cheerful to one that is very angry. I have direct experience with that behavior.
So far as can be determined, Jodi has not exibited any form of bi-polar behavior. It could be that she is medicated for this behavior during the trial. It may explain some of the unemotional responses as if nothing bad ever happened.