Jodi Arias Trial: In Her Own Words.. How I Killed Travis Alexander With HIS Gun and HIS Knife
Photo Courtesy AP Pool
Phoenix, Arizona- In today’s highly anticipated morning testimony, Jodi Arias finally “gets there”.
After weeks of what can only be described as the dog ate my defense testimony led by Kirk Nurmi, Jodi Arias explains the events leading up to and during the murder of Travis Alexander.
Arias describes an irate and menacing Travis who bounds from the shower, causing her to drop his new camera and pouncing on her, knocking her to the wet tile floor.
“ A five year old can hold a camera better than you.” Arias stated Alexander screamed at her among other threatening expletives while she struggled to break free.
She then ran to the master bedroom closet and apparently using the Spiderman techniques she absorbed via osmosis from the alleged Valentines gift, retrieved a gun she claimed Travis owned over two feet out of her reach while he was sprinting behind her.
She pointed the gun at him, did not realize it went off and then Travis, still coming at her, stumbles to his knees on the now bloody tile beneath him. ( Editors Note: As I have always said, I believe the order of this injury is true and is important to the charges against her)
Enter gratuitous memory gap.
“I have no memory of stabbing him.” – Jodi Arias
Although Arias admits to having flash backs, she states she cannot remember any other details with the exception of her crouched in the bathroom covered in blood and drops a knife she believes was upstairs used by Travis to cut ropes he used to tie her up to the bed.
She did however, have the presence of mind to grab the ropes, the gun, apparently removes and loses her shoes and has no idea what happened to the knife she used to stab Alexander 29 times and slit his neck from ear to ear.
Next memory she is driving in the desert with the gun she alleges was Travis’s when she pitches it out the window at a random location, then puts the ropes in a dumpster behind a gas station and washes blood off her hands.
Pause for Arias innocuous driving babble and road scenery.
“Why didn’t you call 911 and tell them what happened?” Kirk Nurmi asks his sniffling but tearless client.
” …He attacked you, why did you feel You messed up pretty badly?”
“This time it was different, he had done it before and nothing happened, it was heightened.” Responded Arias.
While approaching a check point in Utah, she feels like she will be apprehended there.
Arias decided to do a “whole bunch of things” to cover up she was ever there.
So .. “I called his phone to leave a voice mail”. For nearly 16 minutes she says she tried numerous times to leave a cheery voice mail to ask as if she was not present in Alexander’s home.
“I just thought they would be listening to his voice mail, so I just thought it would throw the scent off for a while.”
– Jodi Arias
Yes, she actually said that on the stand. Defense Attorney Kirk Nurmi was observed writing a note to co-counsel Jennifer Wilmott to send an assistant out to Sam’s for an industrial size supply of Tums.
I made that part up. Testimony continues following jury lunch break.
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Nana asks if Jodi can’t remember anything after the shooting,, ” how does she KNOW she’s innocent and that it was in self defense”
Nana says:
Here is a question Ive been pondering for a while.
Even though Jodi says she cant remember what happened after the shooting and that she knows she is the one who stabbed Travis…how does she KNOW she’s innocent and that it was in self defense? How can she be so sure of that? After all, she cant remember ANYTHING after shooting him.
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The defense would love the jury to be asking this same question instead of looking at the facts of circumstantial evidence.
The defense would love the jury to be confused by all the amnesia claims. The defense wants the jury to be so confused that they cant make a decision.
@Eloise
Yes, 1pm pdt/4pm est…lol!
@ Pale Rider
My family and I thank you and yours for your service.
Wanna read something interesting?
There is endless debate about how nuts Jodi Arias is, is she a sociopath, is she this that etc, and how that factored into her crime. Some have even asked why she didn’t plead insanity.
Below is a link to the M’Naghten Rule”, the test applied to determine if the criminal was aware of right and wrong when committing the crime. Arias defense team did not plead insanity, but this amnesia thing and the PTSD is a kind of insanity that they hope will get her off
check it out:
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/M'Naghten+Rule
pammy – Inmates are allowed legal papers to accompany them back to their cells. The staff may or may not check the folder. They’re supposed to, but staff is probably so used to her coming and going now from court, that they would view the folder as part of her attire. I would hope that they would randomly flip through the file while she was being strip searched upon re-entry to the jail. Staff cannot read the papers word for word (privacy issues), but they can scan for notes, or money from her mother or boyfriend etc. that should go through the mail for Jodi in jail.
@ pammy says:
March 19, 2013 at 9:03 pm
LMAO! Yes I did. WTH was that all about?
She’s up to something and perhaps using strange tactics to appear ‘nuts’ to the jury. God willing, she needs to be off the streets.
Today was not so interesting to me but the jury questions to Samuels should be
Nothing against about Samuels but it seems like Jodi seems to get men to feel for her or confuse them or something
However I can believe she may not remember every detail she remembers the gun and knife and rope
I agree with Blink Travis was fighting for his life. The fight or flight thing after some one shoots him
I find the body slam on a tile floor hard to believe but something happened because he was shot and in shock
Or stabbed in shock which ever
That program After Dark is a waste to watch in my opinion and Baez being on it a waste of time
The Fog …hm…after the shooting it ist getting foggy , according JA.
THAT IS JUST ONE MORE LIE!
I know, you know, Mr Martinez knows. I just hope the jurors know it well.
Mr. Martinez could prove anyway the invalidity of the test wich was based on untruths from the defendant.
The only thing i wonder is why in all this fog JA tells she remembers dropping the knife.? Was it to make her story to sound better, truthfuller? Why? She could have said : and then it came this Fog…
@whodunnit. re “M’Naghten Rule”.
relates to a formal plea which must be made before trial begins.
NaNa says:
March 19, 2013 at 7:47 pm
Here is a question Ive been pondering for a while.
Even though Jodi says she cant remember what happened after the shooting and that she knows she is the one who stabbed Travis…how does she KNOW she’s innocent and that it was in self defense? How can she be so sure of that? After all, she cant remember ANYTHING after shooting him.
Anyone?
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I wondered this same thing. She also testified a number of times that she does not know if Travis was chasing her AFTER she shot him. If I remember right this was also a jury question. So even more so how can it be self defense if he is not coming after her. How does she stab him in the chest, back etc. By her onw testimony that she does not know if he was coming after her, she had to be the one to go after him.
If I had killed someone I proclaimed to love, in self defense, I would NOT be so arrogant.
Yes, I noticed the sly move of the legal pad to Arias’ lap. I think she’s filled with delusions. She’s a star in prison, has unlimited funds for defense, a legal “team” and experts backing her every lie, family and friends in wait daily, lights/cameras, a Lifetime movie (does she get paid for this?), art work selling for hundreds on Ebay. Arias is a legend in her own mind, and mark her words… no jury will convict her.
I read this morning that Travis’ family is suffering with job absences and ongoing costs to attend court daily but there is no other option for them than to be there for Travis. God bless them. I pray that someone with means will assist them through this tragic time in their lives.
Sitting ever so close to JW and looking like her twin only serves to discredit JW. Along with JW whiny, constant objections and rolly eyes. And, what’s with Nurmi laying back and staring at the jury? Really? You’ve had your client up there so long that you need to lay back now?
Arias is devoid of humanness. She is a threat, a liar, a killer. She needs to be put away.
A Texas Grandfather says: I also believe that people come to know one another for a reason. This does not mean an actual physical presence. It can mean by telephone, or electronic means such as this. Our experiences are used to try to make our world a better place.
ATG, about ten yrs ago my father was suffering from Stevens-Johnson Syndrome, a debilitating complication of Herpes Simplex 1 run amok. He nearly died several times when his throat swelled shut and he had to be intubated. His doctors were at a loss. I went on a 72-hour internet marathon and eventually stumbled onto a physician message board at Jacksonville, FL Mayo Clinic. A dermatologist from Ontario had experimentally treated several Stevens-Johnson patients successfully with a gout medication. I emailed this doctor, who wrote me back with instructions to give to a medical center here in Indianapolis. He began treatment and the syndrome has been under control since. I later wrote the doctor an email thanks and he asked to be kept informed of my father’s progress.
What a circuitous route to healing, but it gave me a sense of awe for the life-changing technology we have at our fingertips. While electronic communications seem less personal, they can have profound effects on our lives. As with everything human, it has its dark and light aspects and we should always bear this in mind. BOC, I believe thanks to Blink, brings together people who respect each other and remember the social courtesies essential to good relationships. Thanks, Blink
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Amen, Cadillac.
March 20 @ 814am
How does this case qualify as a killing in self defense? Travis was defending himself as he received 28 stab wounds, a shot to the head, his throat sliced from ear to ear to the spine. And Jodi talks about being humane? The evidence is enough for me to find her GUILTY of first degree murder. I can’t imagine one juror buying the self defense theory.
@ Rose-
What fascinated me about the M’Naghten Rule is the way the defense, though not having entered an insanity plea, is still manipulating the concept of “Insanity= lack of culpability”
They are presenting Arias’ amnesia and ( probably) battered woman syndrome as factors that would allow the jury to believe she was not responsible, that she was incapable of premeditation simply because she was battered and had amnesia… the same way that IF they had entered an insanity plea . But this way, they get to have her be “rational” enough to testify on her own behalf.
@whodunit. TY for your reasoning.
The decision to testify imo was insane.
So was the choice of expert.
To me, the common denominator with the OJ trial and the CA trial was that the trials were long, drawn-out, and spent endless days on minutiae. In the end, in both trials, the plaine facts were drowned out. This seems to be the plan of the defense. Unfortunately for the defense lawyers, they have a client who won’t keep her trap shut.
Sequestration, lest we forget. It does not work. I vote for professional juries.
B
@Jden
(snipped) “Arias is devoid of humanness. She is a threat, a liar, a killer. She needs to be put away.”
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I agree with your entire post Jden.
Here is another really funny video that I found while watching the one SOTT posted. Some of you may have already seen it but for the ones who haven’t, it will crack you up.
Warning: It does have some foul language and sexual content.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTUL6P6mQAg
Re Blink:
Hi thanks for weighing in Blink and please tell your editor I think I am on her side this time
You:
1. First and foremost the STATE has the burden of proof to the exclusion of reasonable doubt to prove the charges as they are charged and that it will result in a successful prosecution. Period. That burden is terrific and at no time should it be seen as some sort of slam dunk when one is presenting the case before a jury, and that means that it needs to know, and seek feedback on where the holes in their case may be.
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I agree with this Blink, no Prosecutor should ever make the mistake of thinking any case is a slam dunk-
I agree the State does have the burden to the exclusion of all REASONABLE doubt
And IMO they met that burden- JMO
TMU,the jury in the CA case chose to go with the OPENING STATEMENTS there was no proof that George was watching Caylee at all that morning- there was no proof that George took her from the pool or that George yelled at CA and took the babys lifeless body from her-and Casey never saw her again NO evidence of this-…
There was no evidence that Caylee drowned accidentally after getting out on her own..oh wait except a pic of some child presumable Caylee TRYING to reach, not opening -reaching the door handle WHILE wearing SHOES (which Caylee was with out shoes that morning to show she could have possibly opened the door
For me, It isnt a matter of whether CA got the death penalty or not – but it sure as hell was proven that CA, he Mommy should have at least received a guilty verdict on childabuse/neglect resulting in death
You:
(Mom3.0 you know this is absolutely going to kill me, I was so pissed last night I penned the CA piece in response)
Understood Blink- thats why i went off on a rant too-
I am not hating baez for sucessfully defending CA
i am just not going to support him or any show that features him as I would see it as rewarding him for lying and hiding the “truth” for years when he should have alerted LE and those searching and praying and hoping for a “live” caylee
You:
However, Baez immediately brought up 2 major and highly significant facts that I have been dancing around somewhat because they absolutely make this case defensible when you add
Blink, FTR I DID NOT watch the presentation- I only looked at the closet remake-
You:
Here’s the thing- I should not have to bring this to the prosecutor’s attention. HLN should not have a bunch of talking heads playing 3D colorforms of a hack murder scene and introducing PLAUSIBLE scenarios that a JUROR will possibly conclude ON THEIR OWN.
In a dp case, a jury is going to want the most plausible and logical explanation to match the evidence in total, and since we already know that some jurors are concerned with forensics- blood evidence does not lie.
Arias does and she is out to save her own ass, but that is not going to fill in the gaps here between why a gun AND a knife and 29 stabs and a neck slice. This was egregious overkill- the case as presented is just not painting that picture in a way the jury can wrap around it, imo.
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Ummm but Blink blood evidence can be altered it can be manipulated it can be masked and Jodi Arias herself has admitted to manipulating the crime scene and attempting to clean-up
The evidence shows that she tried to wash the room the clothes the floors the walls on and on.
The jury is going to want the most plausible and logical explanation to match the evidence presented?
Well then the most plausible and logical explanation for all the evidence or LACK there of
is that Jodi Arias- is lying and her version of events can not be relied upon-
The most plausible and logical explanation for all the evidence or LACK there of is :
She attacked Travis Alexander instead of leaving INSTEAD OF
He held up his hands to ward off her blows and still
she was not satisfied until he was dead she went on and on
the sequence between the knife or the gun doesnt matter-
She used both
She is lying to obscure the truth that she murdered him with malice a forethought-
stabbing him in the head, shooting him in the head-stabbing him in the back -in the the heart -in the abdomen until there could be no doubt that he was dead-
and between each-attack- she had time to think- between each stab she had time to think -between the gun and the knife -and the slice to the throat, she had time to think-
at any point she could have stopped but no- she chose to cont on
she stabbed him 27 times and shot him in the temple excution style, and she mercilessly slit his throat-
then after he was dead she stuffed him in the shower, she washed him off- she cleaned the scene- she cleaned herself, she did the laundry- and she packed up the gun the knife etc then went on her merry way to dispose of the incriminating evidence in the desert including the remote for the camera-
(which to me proves she never meant to leave that camera behind just like she never meant to leave that print behind)… -just like she never intended for those pics to be seen.. the ones that show her conveniently wearing socks which would help her gain traction and footing during the attack where as Travis was naked and wet and slippery-
those socks- look to be mens black business socks- Travis’ socks which seem to be on her feet as if she planned it all… and many pairs of these socks were found in the laundry which means she put more than one pair on – as she cleaned the scene…
she lost her shoes? BS- she knows damn well where those shoes are just like she knows where the gun and the remote and the knife are
Foggy BS amnesia BS
I hope this is what a logical jury will conclude
You:
This was egregious overkill- the case as presented is just not painting that picture in a way the jury can wrap around it,
How so?
whats lacking in evidence to prove this was overkill?
just look at the autopsy photos- look at his wounds -look at his defensive wounds– look at her lack of injuries…
is the jury going to believe lying Arias or their own eyes?
Anxiety? Hell yeah she thought she got away with murder first denying she was there- then by claiming intruders
Still she was arrested and when confronted by her lawyer she came up with a newer version it was an accident he was a pedo abuser…it was self defense….i just dont remember
PTSD? well brutally killing a person and trying to outsmart the cops only to be incarcerated and up for the dp is stressful…
You
For the record, I absolutely think there was a struggle on the bathroom floor and it was a struggle Travis waged because he was trying to save his own life, not harm this woman because she dropped a camera. I
I think this is what the jury will deduce also blink- all I am worried about is a juror..or2 sympathizing with Arias and disregarding the evidence because of that sympathy…
You:
I hate to say this again Mom 3.0, but Baden was 100% correct with them throwing Flores under the bus.
Again Blink from the start-and still I do not think the gun first or last makes a difference and i do not think Flores was thrown under the bus but I understand your stance and your concerns- and you may be right it may be that at least one juror is hung up on this issue…and that would not be a good day
You
On a basic level, if you strip away he said she said and look strictly at the crime scene it tells the story nearly every time. This should have been a forensics case, imo, and if it had, this would likely be all over now.
Blink the crime scene was 5 days old—
it had been altered- it had been manipulated, cleaned- – the story it tells us,
is that jodi Arias did her damndest to get rid of the evidence she destroyed it she washed it she bleached it she drenched it- she took it she hid it and she lies about it-
the scene tells us this was a brutal savage killing not a “perfect murder”
You:
I do not think she would have testified if the prosecution presented a strong and congent presentation based on those findings.
The prosecution put on a minimalistic case- it was a simple case yet IMO it did prove the case thru the “basics”–
Still I agree it could have been “stronger” there were holes – and guess what? JA thought she could get up on that stand and fill those holes with lies and innuendo and BS- …
Perhaps that was the Prosecutions hope? The Prosecution has rebuttal and many things were addressed on cross and thru jury questions…
Including Jodi Arias being proven again and and again to be a liar
Juan Martinez came out the victor in the ultimate game of chicken which he played with Arias in taunting her to take the stand
I guess it remains to be seen if this game was worth it For Travis and justice’ sake
You:
Please don’t shoot the messenger peeps- we are on the same team here. You think I want that moonbat in society?
Never Blink, and I totally appreciate your laying it all out front and center- and you most definitely could be right in everyway…
I just hope you are wrong thats all.
AJMO
Peace
Mom 3.0-
I hope to hell I am wrong also, absolutely.
I have had some network and system upgrades in the last few days and weeks, the last of which is occurring as we speak so I am limited on my abilities to cut and paste and quote your response without running the risk of tripping over the cord here, lol so please indulge my “from memory”.
1. You asserted blood evidence can be altered.
It absolutely can, and in some areas of this case it has. I am focused in particular to those areas that have not, most specifically areas of the double sink that contain aspirated blood as well as the mirror. Simply put, a Henry Lee or equivalent can use their education training and experience to analyze and present this forensic “standard” to best describe the events or event order in this case. In fact, to some degree, it was used in this case ( although I do not believe her credentials qualify her as an expert in a DP case) by the Mesa County CSI tech.
I will counter myself on this point to say that unless their is a video of the events, it is all educated hypothesis supported by physical evidence. That said, if we win the argument on face value finding- this scene, largely the unaltered data that can be considered tells an indisputable story backed by science and algorhythmic and empirical conclusion.
ie: The blood plasma platement decomp pattern- no getting around that.
Wounds I consider were inflicted in a struggle- tabling that for now, I seriously cannot bring myself to put that in writing until this trial is over.
Proved beyond a reasonable doubt already- Mom3.0- I am surprised to hear you say that when this case has not gone to the jury yet.
One cant form an opinion without instruction by the court that I am aware of, teasing- but you get the pic.
B
A Texas Grandfather says:
March 19, 2013 at 9:07 pm
See TGF that is why they should have hired you-
I know you would cross every t and dot every i-
I would trust you to do an actual remake of the room just basd on that post-
you wouldnt cut corners and you wouldnt muck with facts-
Dr. Samuels has testified that he did not find Jodi to be assertive. He is as full of it as he can be. That is what makes a sociopath so destructive to those around them. They are always trying to be the one in charge of people and events. If they cannot convince by conversation to get someone to do what they want, they will hound them by telephone or just by showing up without an invitation or notice and insert themselves into an activity. They have no fear of rejection unless it is by legal authority.
I agree with Blink about the need for professional juries. However, I know this may be a difficult thing to accomplish because of the need for some attorneys to pack a jury with people who may be sympathetic to their cause or client. Trained professional jurors would be looking at facts and not be swayed by half truths and misdirection.
It is literally an affront to the constitution so I hold no hope it could ever happen- could you imagination the red and blue agreeing on a definition for “peers”?
B
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGYHuDDLDQ8&feature=player_embedded
Watch the woman in the orange jacket. She passes something to Jodie’s mother in court. Yeah – even her defense team members are rule breakers. Big no no in the courtroom. Anything Jodie has to say to her mother can be said in a visit, or sent through the mail.
Wow. A law degree and a nice suit do not a professional make. I think someone needs to be reminded that this is a trial, and that the State does have the right to object. May we please exercise a bit of professionalism and decorum? The tattle-tale approach is unbecoming.
Arias cannot keep her eyes off the jury today. Apparently she and Nurmi are on jury watch. And, what was that staredown between Samuels and Arias just before the 5-minute calm down period? Whoa!
I do not wish to buy into the more petty nuances here, however, I am going to agree that Wilmott’s courtroom decorum could use some mentoring.
Imo, she is a plea bargain atty, not a litigator. I say with respect to what I seen in this trial.
B
Anyone know when the trial starts tomorrow?
“As a result of a spectator throwing up in the courtroom the trial has been recessed for the evening. The trial will resume tomorrow at 1:30 p.m. Eastern time.”
Imo the trial has turned into a circus.
I get it Blink and I look forward to your further analysis after the trial.
About your comment:
Proved beyond a reasonable doubt already- Mom3.0- I am surprised to hear you say that when this case has not gone to the jury yet.
One cant form an opinion without instruction by the court that I am aware of, teasing- but you get the pic.
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Blinky Im sorry I confused you as I was referring to the CA trial not this trial.
I am still waiting for all evidence to be presented and argued in this case- as well as waiting for the instructions from the Judge
so yay I did not disappoint you.
Peace
No you did not, and I appreciate your clarification- I think it was my fault I read your comment wrong- appollies.
On CA- I agree completely. I knew going into trial there were substantive holes in the prosecution’s case- if only they had.
B
So who is aggravated that the Defense has the evening to go over the jury questions now that we had the puke incident on the Arias aisle?
Whodunnit…
My question about how Jodi can know she is innocent was not really a question, but rather a statement. I KNOW she isnt innocent. I am saying, how can she say she is innocent and didnt murder when she says she cant remember what happened? If she cant remember, then we can say she did murder and it was not self defense and she cant really argue that fact because, well, she cant remember (yeah right).
I ignore all the dancing going on up there on that stage and I stay focused on the facts. She stabbed him 29 times, 9 of them in his back, at least 4 of them to his hands – Travis is fighting for his life – stabs to the neck and head, and stabs to his legs and feet. Then, slitting his throat so deeply she almost cut his head off. That says rage, and to that a shot to the face. She wasnt letting him out of there alive.
She tried to cover up the bloody mess so they couldnt tell who did it, but she was sloppy and didnt have enough time.
She says she was in a ‘fog’ but that fog sure lifted quickly because she was able to think through not only covering up at the house (throwing the camera in the washer, washing clothing and sheets, splashing water on the floor, and trying to cover up blood spurts, but she also got rid of the weapons, her bloody clothing, and left fake messages for Travis to “throw off the scent” (her words). Then, drove off to make out with some other guy in another state and appeared completely calm just hours later.
Yeah, I believe it was self defense. You bet. And I also believe she has some swamp land to sell me in Florida. The jury isnt stupid either. Somebody on that jury may feel sorry for her and not want her to die, but they cant reasonably conclude that this was self defense when everything else wreaks of a premeditated murder.
Blink
I don’t think any court in a large city has hope of producing a jury of true peers. For example: In Harris County, Texas there is a call for jury pool every Monday that is between 600 and 1,000 people. Harris County for those that do not know is the home county to Houston.
In Texas, there is a law that gives a judge needing a jury the authority to order the sheriff or deputy to go out on the streets and pick the first twelve people he finds and bring them back to the court to make up a jury. I have actually witnessed that happen at the Harris County Court in Humble.
In the Casey Anthony case the jury was not picked from Orlando or adjoining towns. It was picked from another city on the Florida West coast. Technically, it could be argued that it was not a jury of peers.
The definition of peers when handed over to a bunch of politicians to define would take twenty years and 100,000 pages of rules and conditions.
ATG- interestingly and I do believe a first- the jury was selected out of Pinellas county, FL- under a change of venue motion.
They were then transported to Orlando and put up there. I do believe that Judge Belvin Perry threatened to use that very law, which btw, would include a homeless shelter, when the defense was trying his patience in the vior dire phase.
B
@Blink. I don’t think Wilmott’s performance comes down to
experience or education but comes down to abstract thinking ability
& verbal fluency. I wish today she’d used more Qs with yes/ no answers
prosecutorial-style as Dr Fog’s verbal diarhea is as bad as Arias’.
Good Point.
B
I do think Travis made a statement, but coming from his killer she forgot just one little important word at the beginning,
“YOU’RE f@@king killing me b!!ch”!!!!!!!!!!
TWO THINGS:
1. The lap top belonging to the State’s key expert was reported stolen on Feb 6.
here is a link I just pulled randomly off the internet:
http://www.myfoxphilly.com/story/21010530/2013/02/06/expert-witness-in-arias-trial-has-home-burglarized
2. Does anyone know if they retrieved the bullet from Travis gunshot wound. And if so, is it possible to discern after the fact if a hollow point bullet was used – does the bullet lose its definition upon entering the target, making it impossible to know if it was hollow point in the first place? The report of the theft at Arias’ grandparents house stated that the .25 caliber gun was loaded and contained hollow point bullets.
It was retrieved and taken into evidence- casing located on bathroom floor as we know. I doubt very much it was a hollow point as Dr. Horne testified he could not discern a projectile path and it was lodged in the upper left maxilla, intact. By it’s nature, a hollow point is designed to “mushroom” on impact- no evidence of that I am aware of.
B
I’m curious as to who threw up, which side of the gallery they were on and what note or otherwise Arias passed to her mother just before the afternoon break. It sure bought Arias additional time to review these most important jury questions.
Had to fly to Chicago and drive to Milwaukee today so I missed trial..heard about the great vom incident of 2013…did I miss anything else? If Wi-Fi at the hotel didn’t blow I would catch up on you tube….darn work travel is interrupting my trial obsession!
Freezing in WI…hope you are all toasty in your necks of the woods
Ooops, the video posted by Sue on 3/20 at 336pm was from yesterday. Nevertheless, the delay bought Arias plen of time and call me a skeptic, I do not believe a thing said by Arias and team.
ATG and all you stairmasters: Here’s a 215lb. man stepping up on shelving similar to TA’s
http://www.hlntv.com/video/2013/03/19/after-dark-re-enactment-killing-scene?clusterId=1303#videoplayer
A Texas Grandfather says:
Me, Regards the gun. Small caliber and the public cannot get it. All that gun did at impact was stun him for moments and then he went to survival mode. A person has in the past and in his case did survive a gunshot like that.
I really should keep my mouth shut. But….I have read and respect your input regards guns , caliber and bullets.
My thinking, she shot him first, that bullet did not stop him. I say, small calliber, thick skull, strong boy. She did not count on that.
He did fight for his life. She did not know any human was capable of that kind of fight after a gunshot into his skull.
Then the slaughter. Jodi Arias never conceived that she would need to do what she did. But she did. Yet she is SO CALM IN THE COURTROOM.
oh, A Texas Granfather says, I did not quote rightly. I was referring back to guns and your expertise. So sorry, do not want anyone here to think that I was quoting you, not for even one moment.
My post is my thoughts only.
Just watched today’s redirect (day 34). Willmott struggled with her questioning. It’s pretty devastating to the defense with Richard Samuels being the only expert witness for them.
I don’t think the DP is guaranteed yet, though. Juan is going to have to hit the ball out of the park in his closing arguments.
@ Twitch says:
March 20, 2013 at 11:47 pm
For now, it appears it was someone who was there to see the trial. Not a family member or friend. She was an older lady. From what I know, there’s been no word if she was taken to the hospital or examined by medical personal. God bless her and keep her safe xo
myers- I agree IF anything like that was said by Travis your thoughts are more in par with reality than hers-
RD agreed
word Girl—- Disclaimer that is the Baez fiasco you made me click on the link—ARGGGGGGGG
That shelving is not like Travis- except in color
It is shorter than the actual shelves take a lookat the closet photos- see Travis jeans remember Arias had to use the stool before to even reach the shelf-
Those shelves are too close together- they are not deep enough- there are no clothes ot shoes upon them- and that man did not have to jump up to the second or third shelf to step as Arias claims she did-while grasping the top dhef with one hand for balance and feel around for the gun with the other-
That man, he barely put his foot on it for half a second- that is not even close to what Arias claims happened-
baez points- the bullet point possibly… but ummm there was blood throughout that bathroom and that hallway- mostly on the sides- the middle for the most part had been wiped clean either in the cleanup or from dragging Travis back to the shower
the hand print was low but how does that go to show she was crawling away for her life? seems to me it shows she was down low either stabbing Travis or using the floor as leverage to try and pull him back to the bathroom or it shows she leaned on the wall as she got down low to try to wipe the blood away…
The doorways and the wall protuberance are not correct- the closet hallway extended further than that of the bedroom doorway exi
The shower wall separation came out further than that – the closet doorway was caddy corner to the bathroom not a straightaway… that wall was longer than what was shown- the shower door opened toward it and still there was wall between the end of the open door and the beginning of the closet doorway… the mat was not shown – the bathtub was the size of a sink and the sinks were the size of water bowls
That lady was wrong Jodi is familiar with wrestling terms and she had self defense classes etc- –downward facing dog? please that lady is barking at the moon-
JA testified she stopped IN THE MIDDLE of the hallway and extended her arms she did not back up to the wall-
She held that stance and shot as Travis exited the closet and supposedly came at her like a linebacker conveniently turning his right temple toward her..–
how is a woman standing holding a gun extended in front of her enough to show Travis stay away…suddenly lower her arms enough to shoot Travis in the head while he is moving down? if she was telling the truth the shot would have went over his head…
AGAIN I SAY FARCE HLN After dark should be ashamed of themselves
ajmo
correction
JA testified she stopped IN THE MIDDLE of the*bathroom* and extended her arms she did not back up to the wall-
- remember according to JA they fell backward toward the scales and toward the trashcan near the sink-
For that lady to be right Travis would have fallen on her and out the windows not to the floor if JA had to back up to the wall inorder to shoot so the downward trajectory would be even close to correct…
Is that lady Baden? if so yikes she is no longer even recognizable…
AJMO
State expert witness Janeen Demarte’s home broken into. Laptop stolen including psychological profile of Arias. Demarte is a key rebuttal witness for the State. No mention of anything else missing. 3 patrol cars, detectives and a crime scene van (unusual for a break-in). Suspicious.
http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/story/21010530/2013/02/06/expert-witness-in-arias-trial-has-home-burglarized
Arias attempted to pass cryptic magazine notes to outside prison. Suspicious.
Puking in the courtroom. Suspicious.
I apologize if this was innocent and hope that person feels better, however, this seems like another ploy by Arias. Adults know the signs and symptoms of becoming close to throwing up, and find a restroom, or are at least in the throes of attempting to do so. This is a most critical time for jury questions and responses. Team Arias was all smirks before the afternoon break yesterday. I think they feel they nailed it with Samuels. Arias assuredly has a fan club, some who may be more interested in pleasing her than staying within the confines of the law.
I would say that DB and MM are highly regretting being previously in her clutches and how that plays into their current lives, emotions and fears. I am still very curious to know if the Robert Juarez that was killed the same year Travis was, is the same BJ that was Arias’ “first love”.
Arias is satanic. Regardless of a sentence, her evil will not be contained in the confines of an AZ prison cell. Searcy was spot on when speaking of pheromones. Arias is a seductress, appealing directly to the testosterone and ego of any male that suits her purpose. She is well aware that it’s a strong drug to which many unfortunate men (and women) succumb.
jden says:
March 21, 2013 at 8:20 am
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I’ve been entertaining similar thoughts. A death in someone’s family last Friday, a vomiting spectator, a missing key witness laptop, odd movements at the defense table by Jodi as if she can’t stop herself from being devious, the weakness of Samuels when it came to Jodi, her ex-boyfriend on the stand acting very nervous as she stared him down…
This girl’s got some dark voodoo going on. May it boomerang right back to her.
there”s somethoing not guite right about this case , wouldnt she have premeditated better? this case is so mis -match i cant buy it that the knife was “just there”,to cut a rope . if it was pre meditated ,something went way wrong. did she think he was dead ,but the bullet wasnt big enough ,so the overkill was -to make sure he was dead- like momo3.o said and .not passion kill rage-.my male -older landlord votes not guilty and had been trying to convince me that she is an abuse victim and that along with being crazy changes the trigger for self defense ,when i got i got a big red flag from one of travis’s friends on dr drew , he said travis “threw his phone across the room ” complaining that jodi was smothering him. real men dont do that in front of one guy , do they? ,seems like a ninny move ,and violent indicator,and if it was a result of a jodi phone call, could mean he wanted to throw her across the room, what gives? did the crime play out as cookoo as she is,cuz cookoo created it? if she’s such an actress and maniuplative , why cant she match her court demeanor to a self defense profile?
what is the follow up of the stolen lap top belonging to State ‘s experts witness, Janeene DeMarte?
Did it contain unretrievable,irreplacable information? If lost, how will that impact the case? Will that render DeMarte’s testimony useless?
Haven’t seen anything other than news that the laptop was stolen- never saw any follow up that it was found…
Gotta be honest I am surprised that a prosecution witness and professional with medical records on their laptop does not have remote lock or lojack.
B
Sorry – got a couple of questions. When Dr. Samuels testified yesterday that Jodi was assaulted by knifepoint when she was 13, didn’t he say that her brother told him the story? #1 – Didn’t he testify earlier that he hadn’t interviewed any of her family or friends? How did her brother “tell” Dr. Samuels that story? #2 – He testified that he reviewed all of Jodi’s journals as far back as middle school. IF this really happened, wouldn’t she have written about it in her journal? Or, was she in a “fog”?
Sounds like another lie to me. What kind of hold does this creature have on men? A supposedly respected doctor is making a fool of himself for her. You know his career is going to take a huge hit after this.
. I have been thinking TG the defense was not multiple personality as then Dr Fog would really run on, & he did just say dissociative identity disorder was one of his early hypotheses (discarded). He is an example of having a theory to which he choses he tests & facts.