Jodi Arias Trial: In Her Own Words.. How I Killed Travis Alexander With HIS Gun and HIS Knife
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Phoenix, Arizona- In today’s highly anticipated morning testimony, Jodi Arias finally “gets there”.
After weeks of what can only be described as the dog ate my defense testimony led by Kirk Nurmi, Jodi Arias explains the events leading up to and during the murder of Travis Alexander.
Arias describes an irate and menacing Travis who bounds from the shower, causing her to drop his new camera and pouncing on her, knocking her to the wet tile floor.
“ A five year old can hold a camera better than you.” Arias stated Alexander screamed at her among other threatening expletives while she struggled to break free.
She then ran to the master bedroom closet and apparently using the Spiderman techniques she absorbed via osmosis from the alleged Valentines gift, retrieved a gun she claimed Travis owned over two feet out of her reach while he was sprinting behind her.
She pointed the gun at him, did not realize it went off and then Travis, still coming at her, stumbles to his knees on the now bloody tile beneath him. ( Editors Note: As I have always said, I believe the order of this injury is true and is important to the charges against her)
Enter gratuitous memory gap.
“I have no memory of stabbing him.” – Jodi Arias
Although Arias admits to having flash backs, she states she cannot remember any other details with the exception of her crouched in the bathroom covered in blood and drops a knife she believes was upstairs used by Travis to cut ropes he used to tie her up to the bed.
She did however, have the presence of mind to grab the ropes, the gun, apparently removes and loses her shoes and has no idea what happened to the knife she used to stab Alexander 29 times and slit his neck from ear to ear.
Next memory she is driving in the desert with the gun she alleges was Travis’s when she pitches it out the window at a random location, then puts the ropes in a dumpster behind a gas station and washes blood off her hands.
Pause for Arias innocuous driving babble and road scenery.
“Why didn’t you call 911 and tell them what happened?” Kirk Nurmi asks his sniffling but tearless client.
” …He attacked you, why did you feel You messed up pretty badly?”
“This time it was different, he had done it before and nothing happened, it was heightened.” Responded Arias.
While approaching a check point in Utah, she feels like she will be apprehended there.
Arias decided to do a “whole bunch of things” to cover up she was ever there.
So .. “I called his phone to leave a voice mail”. For nearly 16 minutes she says she tried numerous times to leave a cheery voice mail to ask as if she was not present in Alexander’s home.
“I just thought they would be listening to his voice mail, so I just thought it would throw the scent off for a while.”
– Jodi Arias
Yes, she actually said that on the stand. Defense Attorney Kirk Nurmi was observed writing a note to co-counsel Jennifer Wilmott to send an assistant out to Sam’s for an industrial size supply of Tums.
I made that part up. Testimony continues following jury lunch break.
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I don’t get this stuff about Chris & Sky Hughes trashing Travis and insinuating he was abusive. I thought they were very supportive of Travis? Maybe Martinez will clarify this, I sure hope so. All the hoopla about his misconduct and the dog and pony show the defense is orchestrating smacks of more desperation on their part.
Jodi has a headache, boo hoo. Hate to sympathize with her, but surely the jail can ensure she has adequate calories to get her through the stress of the trial. I’ve never been a big fan of the US penal system and can’t condone withholding food. The report reads each prisoner receives 2600 calories per day. That is twice what I consume daily, but do they have to distribute it with huge gaps of time between feedings?
Maybe she is stressing this latter part of her trial and the possibility of being stuck in prison forever or facing death. It’s a sad thing, yet simple enough to avoid. Just don’t murder, right? That doesn’t seem like a lot to ask. If she walks, I am still hoping the judge would order mandatory anger management courses for this pitiful person. Between kicking her mother, dog, and slashing Travis to death, this chick needs to get a grip on her nasty temper.
whodunnit, the answer to your question is in the question.
“because we have a moral obligation”
to understand circumstances and apply justice, not leniency.
(Sorry for the break)
Lyla- yep I hope the rebuttal will be epic
Malty says:
March 29, 2013 at 7:53 pm
I find the Jodi who talked to Dt Flores yet another Judi
Even lying to him she seems different in personality
I find his interviews very interesting
Malty- as usual, you are right on the money.
I am re-watching the un-edited interviews and this girl is not just detached.
B
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Blink I am watching them also-
- They are surreal-
Did you get to the part where she starts singing O holy Night?
I am more convinced now than ever that this song has special meaning to her and to the killing in other words it was a ritual of sorts for her—a cleansing – a doing away with– The way she giggles and the lyrics she chooses to sing aloud…
Also she brings up the Hughes and the letter-
It is clear to me in hearing her speak about this that she instigated the whole thing she played them against one another -
JA is and has always been in control she is like a succubus feeding off the input of others.
—These tapes are a peek into the mind of a very disturbed individual.
—I dont think she ever loved or cared about Travis I do not think this killing was over jealousy issues- it was over something that a normal person could never understand –
her motivations are hers and hers alone- its a secret and she will never tell.
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AJMO Peace
I have.
Not to be glib, but I will share with you a comment I made to BOC contributing editor JB- I told her that Jodi Arias makes me believe in the theory of reptilian conspiracy.
One thing I do is listen to the interview without watching body language first, and then with video. In this case it is beyond grueling as you can imagine, but these very bizarre behaviors that occur when she is in the room by herself are definitely response to a stimulus of some kind. Almost like a voice in her head, or a memory.
I will comment more when I complete them totally, but what keeps nagging at me is not something I have seen discussed by Dr. Samuels or LaViolette thus far- I am not seeing PTSD in any of the hours I have watched/heard thus far and had they done this review as well, they should at least have considered those observations in any findings or opinions.
I am qualified to assess and analyze her statements and non-verbal behavior/cues in an interview situation. I am qualified to analyze evidence and design the framework and strategy prior to an interview and make those recommendations to the appropriate LE personnel. I am not qualified to render the observations of her in particular as they correspond or refute a psych evaluation. However, I don’t think one has to to know that a PTSD victim, let’s say for an example, a recent therapist who did two tours in Iraq who eventually committed suicide. Do we think he or anyone like him was asking to see pictures of dead soldiers?
It is incongruent because she does not have PTSD. She knew she deleted pictures so she did not believe they had on her what they say they did.
What is largely missing here and is frequently the case is asking her to write down a statement of her activities June 4th, 2008. I think that was a missed oppty from an analyst perspective as both a person that has been a journal-izer since she was a child, and gleaning information about “HOW” to interview her with a nod to the best chance of success.
Conversely- we know she would have lied on that detail, and it would now be a powerful piece of evidence to refute her “I tell my journal the truth except when I am FOS ” philosophy.
I say this because if anyone knows an artist- in any form or medium- they generally communicate in the most truthful of ways through that effort. I would want to talk to that part of Jodi, because quite clearly, she is seeing the world through that lens in lieu of reality so I want to know what that expression looks and sounds like as it relates to this murder.
B
git dates wrong on CV for LaViolette-
she consulted on a capital offense case ( with jury selection and questions) in 1984-84 and on a murder one in 1997. No record on her CV of what final convictions were in any of the cases.
Is it relevant or even admissible to ask if LaViolette is against the death penalty?
Her presentation is that nothing is black and white, and she is a psychotherapist. if her theories are based on her philosophy that perps of domestic violence are not to be blamed for their actions and if she is against dp, does her testimony automatically have a built in bias?
Elizabeth
Take a look at Jodi’s mother and aunt who are twins. Both are very overweight. The reason I believe is diabetes that may be rooted in heredity. Often people who in their youth have hypoglycemia (low blood sugar) move to diabetes in their late 40′s and 50′s.
When blood sugar is not managed, the opportunity for migraine headaches is there. Some who are diabetic will pass out from too much insulin. Insulin is produced in the pancreas. If a pancreas does not function correctly, it may not produce insulin or it may dump insulin in large amounts with a lot of different side effects.
The long time between meals for Jodi, if insulin is a problem, would bring on migraine headaches that would make one black out.
I know that Jodi has a problem with the truth and is quite capable of doing things to fool people, but this one could be true.
Our Blink just explained in detail what I referred to in my comment that Jodi floats in and out of normal behavior. PTSD is not a reality for Jodi. I believe it is a made-up thing to fit the testimony of both experts working for the defense.
The more I think about the manner that LaViolette presented her analysis, the more I think it is in error. This woman strikes me as one who does not believe in the death penalty and and is trying to find a way to remove it from the jurors minds.
I can almost guarantee that JA is NOT eating the whole meal provided for her. If she was, she would be much heavier. Jail food is very high in fat, carbs and fillers in order to keep inmates’ stomachs feeling fuller – longer. Plus, they buy commissary, which consists of chips and sugar. There is NOTHING healthy about a jail diet, but it has to meet certain guidelines, which most jail diets do in a round-about way. Women gain a lot of weight in jail. They come in rail thin from the streets, and leave rolly-polly in 2 months time. Jodi is picking at her meals and only eating the less fattening parts of her tray. Guaranteed. That’s why she can’t make it from one meal to another.
Continuing with my post number six above: Low blood sugar will produce trembling in the hands and arms. This will happen if someone with the problem, goes too long without food. It will occur about one to two hours beyond the proper time for food intake.
Diets that are too heavy in simple sugars and carbohydrates will cause the person to gain weight. Unless managed, diabetics often consume foods that create this problem. Hypoglycemia will affect the normal behavior of children and teens. It will cause anger and bad behavior. There are several studies about this effect.
I have spent a large amount of time in learning about this because Mrs. ATG has hypoglycemia. We very carefully watch the type and amount of food intake. If we go out to dinner and she consumes a large baked potato and 8 oz. of wine, she often goes to sleep in the car on the way home. She has a blood sugar rise which puts her to sleep. I get the job of carrying her into the house and putting her to bed.
Inmates get a diabetic diet if they are diabetic and if Jodi was hypoglycemic, she would have the proper amount of carbs etc to keep her sugar levels in the appropriate range. Pregnant women get a higher calorie diet than other inmates and extra snacks too. If Jodi is not on a special medical diet, then she is getting normal jail food which is high in fat. The jail is not going to cater to her if she wants a low calorie diet because she is watching her weight. If she is sentenced to many years in prison, and she does an interview for 48 Hrs. or Dateline, we are going to see a much heavier Jodi. She is not going to be able to “eat like a bird” for the rest of her life. She won’t care after a year or two. Prison food may be a little better than jail food, but the food is geared for comfort eating at its best. If you take that away from the majority of inmates, there would be a lot of complaining going on. Food is very important to most inmates.
Sue- I know it was discovered she was not getting her lunches during court from the sheriff’s office. It was addressed at trial, never knew for how long or why. She is definitely on meds, undisclosed, so no way to know if that is deflecting her appetite.
Iirc, she was a light eater from her road trip, and favored carbs
B
Blink very interesting thoughts thanks for sharing. I would very much like to read your final dialysis when you have finished watching the tapes.
I have not completed them yet either ( thanks to the person/s who uploaded them onto youtube)
So far I am hearing and seeing what you seem to be- but unlike you I dont have the knowledge to understand all that I am hearing and seeing-
I do not understand why both Dt.s kept up with the same strategy which was not working all that well
They did a good job, but just like with the CA tapes it seems (perhaps only ith Hindsight) they might have better results asking a different question or taking a different tact just changing it up-
The “lady” Dt asks Jodi what her weakness is and she says embarrassment-
But noone follows up on this-
IMO they should have followed up I dont think it is embarrassment in the normal sense…and they should have like you hinted played up to her strengths
asked her to write it all down or ask her to draw “snapshots” of the details… let her talk on when she became flustered like when she told the “lady” DT Listen…
The DT. asks PP why did this happen what led to this- and JA says something and then says you wouldnt understand its “trivial”
Another thing that is bothering me is she absolutely refuses to answer the question of whether or not Travis knew she was coming and whether or not she planned to murder him-
Big red flag
All she says is he guilted me into coming or he wanted me to come…
and every time she mentions a “gun” to someone its always followed by the word “toy”
She used this in her dads story with La Violette Ill go get my “toy” and she used this in her grandpas story of he told me it looks like a toy…
and she used it again to describe a .25 she had seen at the gunshop when buying her 9mm she said it looked like a toy gun a squirt gun…
Like they say in CIOTK “this means something”
I agree with you Blink, she is not exhibiting signs of PTSD- again I am interested in your thoughts on her – as she is very strange.
question- did LE enhance the tape to see if they could hear her whisperings with herself like when she was picking her toes?
Last thing LE may have gotten farther if they withheld info about the family on what they were going thru- this is what JA was looking for – my guess is she wanted the stories of “hurt” bad enough that she would have bargained to learn more- you tell me something and Ill tell you something-
AJMO
Peace
dialysis ? Ha I hate auto correct sometimes-
Waiting for your final analysis on the tapes
A Texas Grandfather says:
March 30, 2013 at 3:16 pm
Continuing with my post number six above: Low blood sugar will produce trembling in the hands and arms.
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Maybe this is why she shakes. Certainly not from fear as she claims.
@Mom3.0 says:
@Blink
“I am re-watching the un-edited interviews and this girl is not just detached.
B
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Blink I am watching them also-
- They are surreal-
Did you get to the part where she starts singing O holy Night?
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Do either of you think Jodi knows she’s being taped during the interviews? Her behavior is beyond bizarre. The ninja scenario when she describes Travis’ agonizing death as she’s witnessing the torture inflicted upon this man as he’s fighting to save his life. I think she should have been put away forever as a criminally insane individual. Unfortunately, she’s facing two first degree murder charges and if I were a juror in this particular case I have a problem with DP.
Below is another Arizona case and the shocking outcome.
“Steven Steinberg: In the year 1981, Steinberg was charged with killing his wife Elena with a kitchen knife. Elena was stabbed 26 times. It should also be noted that Steinberg was the one who called the police reporting an attempted burglary gone awry, though the police found no signs of a break in. The case drew much publicity in Arizona not only for the heinous crime, but because it was a case of homicidal somnambulism, or simply known as sleepwalking murder. To quote legal argument, “The defendant was not in his normal state of mind when he committed the act. Sleep walking is a parasomnia manifested by automatism; as such, harmful actions committed while in this state cannot be blamed on the perpetrator.” Steinberg claimed he did not remember the crime and was sleeping at the time, hence the murder while sleepwalking. Not only that, he did not deny the fact that he murdered his wife. In his criminal trial, the jury found him not guilty on the grounds that he was temporarily insane when he committed the crime. Although Steinberg fabricated the story about the intruders, he walked away as a free man. Members of the jury were also quoted later to saying they were aware that they were releasing a killer but he was not criminally responsible for his actions.
http://listverse.com/2012/04/11/top-10-most-notorious-insanity-defense-cases/
No, I do not believe she thought she was being videotaped because she was told she was not.
B
Mom3.0 says:
March 30, 2013 at 4:11 pm
Blink very interesting thoughts thanks for sharing. I would very much like to read your final dialysis when you have finished watching the tapes.
I have not completed them yet either ( thanks to the person/s who uploaded them onto youtube)
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Could someone share a link to the tapes you are referring to? I would like to see them.
Thanks!
Pam
That was my intent. Most people do not know abut this sign of low blood sugar. We have no proof of this regarding Jodi. It may be true for her or not. The only way to absolutely know is to perform a 6 hour glucose tolerance test performed in a medical office.
Anything that causes this girl to shake has been addressed by the medical department in the jail. If she has a medical condition that causes her to shake, and it can be controlled by diet, then the jail has to send her with the appropriate diet lunch to court. If it requires medication, then she is put on meds. I thought I heard the Sgt. at the jail say that she is sent a baloney sandwich – just like the other inmates who go to court. So she must be on a regular diet. If Arias complains enough to the medical dept., then medical can put in for an extra snack or something for her when court takes their afternoon recess. She does put in long days in court and this must be considered and I’m sure it is. Most of the other inmates go to court, but don’t have to put in a whole day unless they’re in trial.
I got the impression that Arias is treated just like any other inmate and is NOT the special person she thinks she is. But, I can’t see her eating a baloney sandwich. I can see her giving her sandwich away and maybe eating a piece of fruit or something, which of course is not enough. So she is causing her own shakiness if this is the case and this could cause a headache. This whole trial is enough to cause a headache. Medical has to listen to her complaints and not make any assumptions that could cause a problem for the inmate.
Perhaps she’s trying to appear fragile in order to gain some sympathy from the jury.
Maggie M, here you go-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vE_Ue5rF8QM
Lyla I agree with blink she thought the recorder was off-
the part that you mentioned is weird
especially if you look at part 13 where she is asked by Florez
what was youre intention going there that day?
and she takes a long pause and says:
PP im just trying to remember that week- that whole week and the week prior it had a lot to do with it the weekend or that friday night prior-
then she also mentions Travis “meddling”..in her finances trying to tell her to take responsibility…asking her how she can afford to take a trip anywhere when she owes so much money to….then she talks about owing MM money, her parents her friends..DB–she says for the house and for the “costco” (did DB lend her his costco card is that when she bought the case of water?)
anyway as she is “recounting” that part you noted— she says
PP he (the intruder/Travis?) got into my purse he took 180 dollars I had stashed… He was yelling he held up the (my) registration- he was wagging it at me…he was saying shut up youre that Bitch from California… dont ever talk about this mention this to anyone or else..LEAVE NOW- Just Go- he put the money in his pocket JA makes a gesture to him putting in a side pocket as if on a robe…not to a jeans pocket… Leave…the woman was stern she was intent and hushed.. she was arguing with him…… she said (shell) rat us out… She wanted to kill….He kept saying thats not why were here…
Flores says what happened
She says i left the room…I went downstairs I didnt have my clothes…
Where were they?
She answers travis said I had some clothes and stuff in his closet? i left them i had my backpack and purse…i went in the back yard…
To me its possible this is the “trivial” thing she alluded to with the other DT.
Was it that Travis was arguing with her about the money she owed him. the car situation her finances ..at this point it seems they were in the bedroom he was getting ready to take a shower he had on his robe…he took her stash of money he put it in the robe he told her to get the hellout and not to talk about their tryst maybe or about the tape? She acted like she was gonna leave and she came back- or she asked to take the shower pics and then was gonna leave and attacked him there i think she maybe palnned the whole thing since the May 26th texts she wanted to possibly take the registration of the BMW? the title? IDK but I think they were argueing about the car about the texts about the tape and about the money- all trivial things
Just something to think about.
AJMO
Pece
I believe Travis was miffed at Jodi’s road trip because she owned him money, a check was found for $200 with a date written of may 25, 2008 for car payments April and May. Iirc, when she met Travis’s sister at the memorial, or through a 3rd person, she asked if he had cashed the check or if she knew if it was going to be.
To clarify my position- I don’t believe Jodi ever knew she was being recorded on video. Det lady ( sorry, I am going to use that because I needed a laugh after those hours of review and it reminds me of stepbrothers and the “Miss Human Resource lady”- PanD.) Did tell her she was recording their conversation.
I think we just need to be looking in the backyard for her pod. I am like half kidding. Never seen anything like it.
B
@Maggie M says:
March 30, 2013 at 6:39 pm
“Could someone share a link to the tapes you are referring to? I would like to see them.”
Thanks!
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I hope these links works.
First interrogation video:
http://www.yourepeat.com/watch/?v=vE_Ue5rF8QM&feature=youtube_gdata
Second excerpt of Jodi Arias’ police interrogation on July 16, 2008.
http://www.yourepeat.com/watch/?v=-tqXr2YNShg&feature=youtube_gdata
Thank you lyla.
B
@Maggie M
Here’s the longer version (49 minutes)of the 2nd interrogation..youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoUB2UzWjtI
This is part 17 at the 10:007-10:9 mark is that Jodi saying something in a sing song voice? very weird whoever it is… not sure what is being said but it sounds like its easy to write?
Id appreciate anyoneeles thoughts /interpetations
thanks AJMO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=WfJJRCJUwbk#at=619
Thanks for clarifying Blink and yes we do need some humor-
BTW my referencing the other detective as “lady” was because that is how JA mentioned her, no disrespect intended
You are thinking she is from another planet reptilian…looking for her “pod” in the backyard…i say yep but for me, i keep waiting for her to pull her bottom lip out and for there to be an upside down cross etched into the skin…. or for her to start crawling towards the camera like that freaky little girl from that movie who comes out of your tv…
I think i will have bad dreams tonight because i watched the tapes…7 days…
Lol, yes, she referred to the detective as Det lady.
There are windows to the holes in her background in those hours for sure.
She went to Costa Rica as a foreign exchange student and ends up dropping out of HS.
She moves away for 10 years and claims not one member of her family came to visit her even with a home and pool with a spare bedroom, but in her early interviews talks about how “super close” her family is.
B
She seriously gives me the creeps
I relistened to tape # 5 and that whispering there when she is picking her toes i mentioned earlier it sounds like she says …you still beat me brat… is she talking to her toes? is she having her own session of the vagina monologues? Or is she talking the Dt…or to Travis …its almost as if she believes she absorbed his spirit when she killed him …
Like Renfield is that an actual mental diagnosis like that?
I am seriously starting to wonder if samuels should have went with multiple personalities- not that it would be true, but it seems to fit into JA theatrics alot better than PTSD
Sweet dreams guys-
Prayers to Travis’ family
AJMO
As to her shakes, I personally do not believe she has them. I think she only says she has the shakes to make her abuse story believable. I also do not think that insanity would have been a plea for her. True she is very disturbed, but she knew what she was doing when she planned and carried out the murder of Travis.
From Juror queston to Jodi…
40) You said you reported your cell phone lost in May 2008, when and where was it found?
A: I reported it to the Yreka police as stolen, blah, blah, grandpa’s car, Chinese takeout, don’t lock doors. Stolen was my conclusion.(Jodi asks what was the rest of the question?) It was found in 2010, in my grandfather’s car, my aunt found it, actually she’s sitting right over there in the front row. She gave it to my grandmother.. Objection (Defense) Sustained.
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I wonder if Jodi told Travis that she recorded their phone sex on the phone that she thought had been stolen and this is one of the reasons he sent her those scathing text.
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May 26, 2008 – These 3 are all part of one long text, no replies from JA in between:
05/26/08 at 07:59:15am
I sent you a response to your dire conversation, that I hope you read because you need to read it. Maybe it will spark human emotion in you, something that only seems to exist when it comes to your own problems. But everyone else is just a part of your sick agenda. By the way, your pic comment to Danny Jones makes you look like a pure whore, even more to the people who know you. You should be embarrassed by it. If he knew what I knew
about you he’d spit in ur face. Sow could everyone else. I have never never in my life been hurt so bad by someone. But why do I even say it because you don’t care. It doesn’t serve your evilness.
05/26/08 at 08:35:02am
You couldn’t get off your lazy butt to read it could you. That’s the sociopath (I) know so well. it freakin figures
05/26/08 at 09:11:11am
I don’t want your apology I want you to understand what I think of you. I want you to understand how evil I think you are. You are the worst thing that ever happened to me.
krowdkat- are you sure the texts are quotes? I feel like there is some verbiage missing, but I could be wrong.
B
Mom3.0 says…Another thing that is bothering me is she absolutely refuses to answer the question of whether or not Travis knew she was coming and whether or not she planned to murder him-
Big red flag
All she says is he guilted me into coming or he wanted me to come…
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That stuck out like a sore thumb to me as well, Mom3.0.
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In an answer to another Juror question, Jodi indicates that she and Travis didn’t communicate via text or email on June 3 or 4th.
9) How many phone calls, texts and emails were exchanged between you and Travis on Tuesday and early Wednesday morning, June 3 and 4, 2008? What were the times, the length of each communication.
A: I know some of these are duplicates on here, some of the calls are listed twice, the same call. So I am not entirely sure but it looks like somewhere between 5 and 9 I am guessing, because some are duplicated. As far as phone calls, um text messages because I know we
texted back and forth but I don’t know that there are any text messages from the 3rd that were saved or recovered and I don’t think we emailed on the 3rd or 4th.
That is a pretty good indicaton to me that he had NO clue she was coming to his house. Yet, in the police interrogation video (when she finally admits that she wen to Mesa after all her denials) she indicates that Travis had waited up for her.
Mom3.0
Is she singing “Easy write” or “Easy to write”? or “Is he right”?
@blink…I compiled the text messages from trial exhibit snapshots posted at huff and websleuths. Hope that is okay. There very well could be some text missing, but I am not sure. These are what I can see from the photobuckets.
Thanks krowdkat- I asked because I thought I remembered a line in between about Travis calling her a sociopath.
B
The only way to get some sense out of Jodi’s stories is to investigate the background of where she was physically and then all of the various text messages over the time period from January through June of 2008.
I don’t believe Travis was expecting her. She just shows up and either gets into the house without his knowledge or she wakes him up and he lets her in. She could have told him any type of story as to why she is there. Travis is unable to refute anything she says, so her version is all there is.
I don’t believe there was any type of abuse of Jodi by her parents. They just could not handle her lies and decided that grounding was the only way. She probably schemed with some of her school classmates about how to leave her parents home and survive.
I totally agree, ATG. I’m a very linear thinking person and the way Juan M. has bounced around in his prosecution of Jodi (understandibly so in dealing with her), I would really like to see him wrap this trial up with a very succinct timeline of all the pertinent events leading up to Travis’s murder.
For instance, it took me a while to figure out that the grandparent’s gun and DVR etc. was stolen just 2 days after Travis sent those 3 scathing emails to Jodi indicating that she was the worst thing that had ever happned to him.
While I think he did a good job questioning, Jodi, I would really love to see him tie everything together for the nonsociopathic, diabolcal jury before deliberations.
oops, sorry, that should say NONdiabolical jury. LOL
Need more coffee. Have a good Monday, everyone.
THE GUN
@ 14:40
Flores – Where did you get it? Everybody says he didn’t have one. Where did you get it, if you didn’t take it? Did he have one in the house?
Arias – Not to my knowledge.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/29/jodi-arias-complete-interrogation-videos_n_2979658.html?utm_hp_ref=jodi-arias
Sue
I know you have experience with prisons and jails and you know what the correct procedures are for medical problems. Jodi is in the Maricopa County jail system. Sheriff Joe runs a different type of system than do most counties.
Jodi may not know that she has a blood sugar problem and unless she has been checked by a doctor for it, how would the jail know to prepare special food? People with such a problem should eat four to five small meals a day and stay away from carbs as much as possible.
A high protein diet and fruit with complex sugars is the proper way to control the problem.
My experience with jails at the county level are exactly what you stated. Processed meats, cereals for breakfast and plenty of bread and potatoes. All are foods designed to fill the tummy with comfort. The food available via a commissary is no better.
Jodi has some type of mental problem. I don’t think the defense experts have come close to determining what it really is. Whatever it is seems to act in a progressive manner. Anger and defiance as a teen leading to very poor choices as a young adult and finally the crime for which she is being prosecuted.
Could someone please tell me if JM gets to put on a rebuttal. I have seen on BOC and other blogs that he does, but on HLN they keep saying this is the last witness for the defense. After JM crosses her there will be questions from the jury then closing arguments.
Phyllis says:
April 1, 2013 at 3:04 pm
Could someone please tell me if JM gets to put on a rebuttal. I have seen on BOC and other blogs that he does, but on HLN they keep saying this is the last witness for the defense. After JM crosses her there will be questions from the jury then closing arguments.
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yes he will get to do a rebuttal.
A rebuttal is up to the judge as to whether or not is granted, but the point is moot in this case as it is already scheduled. It needs to be used to refute information obtained on cross from the defense’s case- it is not a prosecutorial do-over.
In that case, a sur rebuttal may be granted to the defense. Again, up to the judge, but will likely be granted with limited time constraints in a dp case.
B
Please tell me that they will dismiss juror #5 rather than grant a mistrial! ?!
I can’t imagine they would want to scrap the trial to date and start all over and spend another 2mil to re-try her especially since they have 6 alternate jurors to fill the spot of #5 if dismissed.
I thought it was pretty ballsy of JA’s Mom & Aunt to wear DV ribbons to court after it was determined inappropriate for others to wear the Justice for Travis ribbons… I’m not saying either are appropriate in court but that was down right rude after the defense throwing a tantrum about the opposing side wearing ribbons…double standard much?
I have tried to watch the unedited interrogation tapes but I find myself looking for a sharp object to ram into my ears… I am perplexed by the outlandish bizarre behavior that is Jodi Arias..so many adjectives pop into my head when it comes to her…a good portion of them aren’t fit to print
I think we all know there was no abuse done TO jodi…however, BY jodi, most likely.
PTSD is an “excuse” not a diagnosis when it comes to jodi.
Sadly, the defense is trying to make chicken salad out of chicken s*@$. I suppose they are trying to make the best out of what they have to work with (proven liar who is diabolic manipulator) which is not a task you could pay me enough to take on…it looks as if the desperation has set in and the “poor me my scrambled brain is migrating” headaches, lack of sufficient feeding, the latest prosecutorial misconduct accusations…blah..blah…blah
Tactics to further delay her fate…delays so the defense can come up with more things to throw out and see what sticks because so far everything is bouncing back instead…
Should I reschedule my vacay in June in the event this trial is STILL going on?
The mistrial motion has legs Twitch- at least as to that juror, imo. If it was important enough to seal, you can bet it is important enough to the movant- in this case Arias.
Because this is a lottery jury, and 18 are hearing the case, it is my “intuitive” opinion that Judge Stephens might excuse juror #5, and deny the mistrial- but this depends on what was said/done rising to the level of misconduct.
Unfortunately, got some recent citation I suspect may come up again.
http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2012/03/jeffrey_martinson_wins_new_tri.php
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The defense is making a motion for a mistrial based on something. This requires another hearing and will eat up additional time.
Maybe JM will get to cross examine LaViolette sometime this week.
HLN is going back over some of the things that are designed to prove or disprove Jodi’s story. They have attempted to recreate some of the acts required to match the actual conditions.
They got the body slam correct showing two possible ways a slam is administered. Then they asked a professional wrestler if a body slam were applied as Jodi claimed, could she get out from under Travis or even get up. His answer was she could not. He stated that in the ring the floor has some flex and they practice so that it does not hurt as much, but on a solid tile floor she would have been incapacitated. More Jodi imagination that cannot fit the story.
Then, they used a training dummy from a fire department. These are used to teach firemen the correct way to move people at a fire or rescue scene. This particular dummy was “estimated” to weigh 180 lbs. It was articulated at the knees,hips,waist, elbows and shoulder. The head was fixed. They did get a young woman who claimed to be
5′-5 1/2″ tall and weighed 130 lbs. who was able to move the dummy across the smooth floor with difficulty including placing it in an open enclosure built to simulate the shower. An actual weight of the training dummy would have been helpful. If it actually weighed 175 or 170 lbs. it would change the conditions and the major thing is a body is not near as stiff as the training dummy. The other thing is the fact that Travis’s wound in the throat would make his head try to roll under if he was dragged on his back. This demo leaves a lot to be desired.
There are two things that may have some bearing on why Jodi was angry with Travis. She had purchased the BMW from Travis and put it on a dolly to move it to California. Unfortunately, she did not take the car out of gear. She left it in gear with the rear wheels on the pavement. On a rear wheel drive, towing in that configuration will couple through the transmission and turn the engine. With the engine not running, the oil in the cylinders will not be replenished and soon the engine will seize and then come apart. This is what happened. Travis blamed Jodi for not properly towing the car and demanded she continue to make the payments. He did try to get some relief through the insurance company, but it had not been resolved when the murder took place.
Then of course the idea that she was not going to be included on the trip to Cancun. There we have another strong motive for the attack. Money and Jealousy could have combined to send Jodi into a fit of rage.
I have to say, I am not at a motive I feel comfortable with that fits the facts and evidence of this murder, not at all.
B
From HLN “Arias defense seeks mistrial
“Jodi Arias wants a new trial because she says juror misconduct has made her current trial unconstitutional.
Arias is on trial for killing her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander on June 4, 2008. Arias’ attorneys base their motion for a mistrial on information about Juror 5’s behavior that was discovered in a sealed hearing last Thursday.
“Ms. Arias takes the position that the statements Juror 5 made in front of her fellow jurors amounts to misconduct,” Arias attorneys wrote. “Given the evidence that came forward on March 28, 2013, it is beyond legitimate dispute that Juror 5 is not fair and impartial making her unfit to continue as a juror.”
Juror 5 is a married, white female in her 30s. Court observers have said she is the most visible juror from the gallery because she has a “unique hair style.”
Judge Sherry Stephens held the sealed hearing last Thursday to discuss with the jurors whether any of them had witnessed prosecutor Juan Martinez posing for pictures with fans outside the courthouse.
Arias’ attorneys want Juror 5 kicked off the jury if the judge doesn’t grant a mistrial.
Removing Juror 5 may be a remedy, because there are 18 jurors right now. Twelve jurors will be chosen before deliberations, and the rest will be alternates that could be called in deliberate if necessary.”
TGF – I am not so sure that Jodi has a mental problem – as you so politely put it. I’m not being crude or rude in my reply to you, and I’m no doctor or psychiatrist, but Travis came into her life when she was escalating in her pathologically disordered brain and he pushed the wrong buttons and the monster emerged and she exploded. A blood bath ensued, she stabbed Travis 29 times, shot him in the head and nearly decapitated him. She is a remorseless, creepy, stalker, murderer, deviant. He was left for dead. She picked herself up after slitting his throat, went into cover-up mode, attempted a clean-up, drove to her new lover’s house and went on with her business, as if it was just another day in the park. When she formally heard that Travis was indeed dead, she sent flowers to his grandmother. She has absolutely NO remorse for what she did, and may have even killed again if she had gone on the camping trip with a couple of guys she really didn’t know very well. She bought a gun just in case she needed to use it; if they got any ideas. She was willing to kill them rather than NOT go on the camping trip. All I can say is that she is very disordered, a threat to society, and very high on the spectrum of evil. I don’t know what else to call her – maybe I left out diabolical.
There are millions of psychopaths worldwide. While I’m not committing to labeling her a psychopath because I am not a doctor, she does seem to fit. She also fits into other personality disorders, so perhaps she has a dual disorder. Whatever disorder she has, she does not acknowledge being damaged in any way, and like most others like her, she thinks she can outsmart the masses. She is a scary reality of a remorseless personality, who probably thinks Travis had it coming. There are millions more like her out there. Don’t be fooled that she is a female. Evil goes to male and female alike.
When I see her mother and aunt laughing in the courtroom and whooping it up at times, I see that she may have gotten her genes from the maternal side of the family – only she’s higher on the spectrum of evil. This courtroom is not a setting to be laughing and giggling at anything. A man was brutally murdered by her daughter (niece). I feel that they too are remorseless. They should be solemn and humbled, not giddy and animated.
I don’t see a mental problem in her. I see a person without a soul.
On the soul-less part we agree completely. I have nothing but questions about this girl’s potential for psycopathy among other things I have observed, but that is not one of them.
B
Oh jeez, Now the defense wants a mistrial because of juror misconduct?
http://www.azcentral.com/community/mesa/articles/20130401jodi-arias-trial-juror-dismiss.html
@Sobermom says:
April 1, 2013 at 9:50 pm
“Oh jeez, Now the defense wants a mistrial because of juror misconduct?
http://www.azcentral.com/community/mesa/articles/20130401jodi-arias-trial-juror-dismiss.html”
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Look for more delays…$1.5 million and climbing so far for the State of Arizona. I hope there is justice for Travis.
When Jodi is talking to Dt Flores and says she was trying to move on to put Travis’s death behind her
I nearly flipped
This is one dangerous person
I hope they don’t have to do this trial over
Because one juror says something
Blink, is it possible that this juror misconduct is being raised as substance for future appeal(s)?
I read here that the Court can also allow the juror to stay but excuse that juror from consideration of the verdict.
One of the regular trial observers indicated that Arias stares people down. I would imagine that not unlike any animal, Arias has a heightened sense for noticing reluctance or objection in her prey. She is a master manipulator. It is likely that anyone who comes to know Arias will eventually develop a level of fear of her. As Samuels and LV testified in her defense, I sensed a distinct fear in them as they cast a glance toward Arias. A fear of misstepping. Which is what Travis did.
Arias is a diabolical result of the various cults she pursued. She is an animal of prey and uses her sexual prowess to lure her subjects. Watch the unedited tapes. She slinks like a snake. She lies her head, her arms and her body down onto surfaces and brings herself to the ground. Like a serpent, she is tempted with the promise of power. She took Travis’ power from him when she killed him and that pleases her.
“Juror Disqualification and Substitution. The Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure provide for the substitution of alternate jurors to replace “jurors who, prior to the time the jury retires to consider its verdict, become or are found to be unable or disqualified to perform their duties.” 1760 Determination of juror competency is left to the judge’s discretion. 1761 Failure to object in a timely manner to substitution of a juror constitutes a waiver of the objection. 1762
Instead of substitution, the judge may allow the parties to stipulate to a jury of fewer than twelve persons when jurors are excused for just cause. 1763 Once the jury retires to consider its verdict, the trial court in its discretion may excuse a juror for just cause and allow the remaining eleven to return a valid verdict. 1764
Contamination by Extraneous Influences. In Remmer v. United States, 1765 the Supreme Court held that any unapproved private communication, contact, or tampering with a juror …”
Make no mistake. Arias is reveling in the thought of $1.4 million spent in her defense, for in her mind that is substantiated and necessary… she is vindicated of any wrongdoing. Listen to the 48 Hours tape about her reaction to being booked. She recounts the event much like a normal girl would speak about being crowned prom queen.
It’s Tuesday. Any guesses on the defense color pallet?
Jden- I don’t see a ref link to your case, but that is Federal Court, not State court.
But yes, an atty is obligated to argue the motion in good faith, and part of that is based on preservation for appellate relief.
It is my personal belief that if a mistrial is declared the state would be wise to plead this case – I know nobody wants to hear that. This girl is walking into this case overcharged as it relates to evidence the state can provide, as I have said from the beginning.
Make no mistake, I have no doubt Arias is plenty guilty. Proving that in accordance with statute, with 12 people delivering a guilty verdict looks out of reach as presented.
If the State refiles, I hope it is after adding further diligence to it’s case to fill some holes.
Guess: pastels or taupe
B
Thanks B for the link in regards to the Martinson case!
While I hope that in the Arias case the judge would dismiss juror #5 rather than grant a mistrial, in the event a mistrial would be granted, could the defense change the plea in a new trial? Instead of self defense could they claim temporary insanity in the new trial?
My fear is that they are aware that no one seems to buying the current brand of bs and would now try to go down a different path.
Also, with all the national media coverage surrounding this case, what is the likelihood they could find new jurors that can still be considered impartial?
Would they move to sequester the next jury to prevent misconduct? Would a change of venue be in order to try and find an impartial jury?
How long would it take for the new trial to begin?
Sorry for all the? ‘s….I’m just not sure how all this would work should a mistrial be granted. I am sure the AZ taxpayers would be very unhappy about the additional costs associated with a new trial, especially since the current costs to date have become such a point of contention brought out by the media.
One off topic note: has anyone noticed that they use a filter on Nancy Graces camera but not on any of her guests…I’m positive she doesn’t have a natural softened blur to her appearance outside the studio…at least she doesn’t in the pic I took of her at the muppets red carpet premier in hollywood nov 2011….perhaps they should use that filter on Ms. Rose’s hair?
Lol, yes, Ms. Grace has lighting/lens controls in her contract. I suspect Atty Rose likes her hair just fine, and frankly, she probably gets way more done than I do because of it. But man.
B
The defense in this case is based on nothing more than hope and opportunity. They will try anything that becomes available to extend the idea of not guilty or a mistrial. I hope the judge will dismiss the juror in question and continue the trial. This of course could create a reason for appeal.
The idea that Jodi may be soul-less may be true. When one embraces evil over goodness time after time it turns into iniquity. At that stage we have lost our humanity and are capable of only animal behavior. Animals are all about survival and the “law of the jungle” applies.
Because humans have the ability to reason and learn, this makes the most dangerous type of animal. There is nothing to restrain behaviors that are against the norms of society. The best thing that can happen for society’s safety is to remove them.
@ATG
I saw the HLN reenactment you mentioned using the dummy. This confirmed my position and previous post that Jodi was able to move Travis. I get your points regarding the weight and movement of the dummy. Other things to consider was that the actual floor was a tile floor and was wet and thereby slippery. Also Jodi likely had an adrenaline rush going on. This was her first kill. I do not think it would have been her last. That she had a 9mm (purchased AFTER killing Travis) and a knife when she was arrested, makes me think she had plans to kill again.
Blink, Regarding rebuttal, is the judge deciding on whether or not to have one AZ thing like the jury questions?
general observation:
Arias ALMOST got away with murder. The murder scene was cleaned up- but only a few hair strands, a miraculous recovery of some deleted photos and a hand print forced her confession.
Her background is a mess- high school drop out, runaway at 15, lived serially with men, financially irresponsible and “geographically” unstable, no real identity of her own,social life dependant on whatever man she was involved with,multiple strange religious/spiritual connections, at least three major relationships that ended in break up all before the age of 27, history of confrontation about perceived infidelities, purchased another gun weeks after murdering a man …
We will never fully understand the motive because Arias herself cannot explain it in any way.
Are we watching the trial of a serial killer who got caught her first time out?
Absolutely no evidence that Arias has any marker for serial killer whatsoever. That would definitely qualify as inflammatory, lol.
Respectfully, you are making very broad assumptions about Arias as they relate to criminal conduct- she never had as much as a parking ticket and there are thousands of women that have similar backgrounds and patterns that never kill anyone. As past history is the best indicator of the future, and the facts of this case show- this is a domestic partner homicide.
How it is classified does not matter to me in the sense that her capacity to commit this act in the way she did makes her a danger to society and deserving of appropriate punishment. I don’t agree that Jodi does not know her own motive, she does.
B
Jury # 5 excused..motion for mistrial denied. Here comes Ms. Laviollet.
http://kristinarandle.com/blog/diagnosing-jodi-arias-part-three-of-three/#gsc.tab=0
I found this article and it’s a good one. The author – a clinician – describes what she thinks is a good fit of Antisocial Personality Disorder that describes Jodi Arias. Parts 1 and 2 of the article can be accessed from the links on the page. It’s an interesting read.
Agreed. I was a smidge put off with factual errors in parts 1 and 2, but in the end, I agree it is a good article and agree with her findings.
Thanks Sue, EVERYONE: a must read.
B
I’d love to hear Violette discuss a ‘pattern’ of violence between Jodi and Travis, which is typical of domestic violence. She is an expert and a credible witness for the defense. However, I’ve only her her talk about instances of volatile exchanges between Jodi and Travis, which are not necessarily uncommon in relationships.
I’m not convinced she’s proven Jodi to be a victim of repeated violence. I’m also concerned she’s basing her testimony on Jodi’s word, which is not credible. We know she had the ability to hack into personal accounts. It’s not below her to contrive messages so they appear as if they’re from another party.
The Hugh’s warned Jodi about Travis? Were they not the ones who warned Travis, even before they met her?
Dots aren’t connecting for me, personally. AJMHO
Blink writes:Absolutely no evidence that Arias has any marker for serial killer whatsoever. That would definitely qualify as inflammatory, lol.
Respectfully, you are making very broad assumptions about Arias as they relate to criminal conduct- she never had as much as a parking ticket and there are thousands of women that have similar backgrounds and patterns that never kill anyone. As past history is the best indicator of the future, and the facts of this case show- this is a domestic partner homicide.
How it is classified does not matter to me in the sense that her capacity to commit this act in the way she did makes her a danger to society and deserving of appropriate punishment. I don’t agree that Jodi does not know her own motive, she does.
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——————————————————————————————-Thanks for your response , Blink.
I guess I am so tried of trying to make sense of this mess, so frustrated with the
“see -saw” of defense using the evidence to show innocence, the prosecution using same evidence to illustrate guilt that I am, as your correctly say, making broad assumptions.Reading your response makes me realize that I unconsciously succumbed to the idea that LaViolette seems to be has presenting- that Jodi couldn’t mentally take responsibility for her act. This is really bad, because I beleive Arias is guilty as charged. I really hope that Martinez can give very clear cut linear guide to show premedit
ated murder.
LaViolette is getting boring, everything she says is just repetition of her theories of what contsitutes abuse. I fear Martinez is going to have to cut LaViolette down to the core, show lack of science, lack of relevance to Arias’s case, as well as showing presence of bias in order to have LaViolette’s testimony disregarded.
Yuck.
I think everyone is emotionally vested in this case, and the concern about a successful prosecution is percolating.
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