Jodi Arias Trial: In Her Own Words.. How I Killed Travis Alexander With HIS Gun and HIS Knife
Photo Courtesy AP Pool
Phoenix, Arizona- In today’s highly anticipated morning testimony, Jodi Arias finally “gets there”.
After weeks of what can only be described as the dog ate my defense testimony led by Kirk Nurmi, Jodi Arias explains the events leading up to and during the murder of Travis Alexander.
Arias describes an irate and menacing Travis who bounds from the shower, causing her to drop his new camera and pouncing on her, knocking her to the wet tile floor.
“ A five year old can hold a camera better than you.” Arias stated Alexander screamed at her among other threatening expletives while she struggled to break free.
She then ran to the master bedroom closet and apparently using the Spiderman techniques she absorbed via osmosis from the alleged Valentines gift, retrieved a gun she claimed Travis owned over two feet out of her reach while he was sprinting behind her.
She pointed the gun at him, did not realize it went off and then Travis, still coming at her, stumbles to his knees on the now bloody tile beneath him. ( Editors Note: As I have always said, I believe the order of this injury is true and is important to the charges against her)
Enter gratuitous memory gap.
“I have no memory of stabbing him.” – Jodi Arias
Although Arias admits to having flash backs, she states she cannot remember any other details with the exception of her crouched in the bathroom covered in blood and drops a knife she believes was upstairs used by Travis to cut ropes he used to tie her up to the bed.
She did however, have the presence of mind to grab the ropes, the gun, apparently removes and loses her shoes and has no idea what happened to the knife she used to stab Alexander 29 times and slit his neck from ear to ear.
Next memory she is driving in the desert with the gun she alleges was Travis’s when she pitches it out the window at a random location, then puts the ropes in a dumpster behind a gas station and washes blood off her hands.
Pause for Arias innocuous driving babble and road scenery.
“Why didn’t you call 911 and tell them what happened?” Kirk Nurmi asks his sniffling but tearless client.
” …He attacked you, why did you feel You messed up pretty badly?”
“This time it was different, he had done it before and nothing happened, it was heightened.” Responded Arias.
While approaching a check point in Utah, she feels like she will be apprehended there.
Arias decided to do a “whole bunch of things” to cover up she was ever there.
So .. “I called his phone to leave a voice mail”. For nearly 16 minutes she says she tried numerous times to leave a cheery voice mail to ask as if she was not present in Alexander’s home.
“I just thought they would be listening to his voice mail, so I just thought it would throw the scent off for a while.”
– Jodi Arias
Yes, she actually said that on the stand. Defense Attorney Kirk Nurmi was observed writing a note to co-counsel Jennifer Wilmott to send an assistant out to Sam’s for an industrial size supply of Tums.
I made that part up. Testimony continues following jury lunch break.
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“I could not read the artist signature on that sketch.
B”
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Looks like TW 2013.
@ Ode says:
April 4, 2013 at 8:18 pm
“?? Snow White….get past it JM, this is as ridiculous as Lizard vapor. The prosecution is not starting out well with Miss Laviolette. I am disappointed.”
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I was disappointed too. He was verbally abusive to her or as Perry Mason would say “badgering the witness”.
Blink
Based on your reply to me in #40 above, I think you will really appreciate Sandra Brown’s book. She, like Ms. Violette, has been in the field for a long time and has experience in all sides of the issues.
Your example of the woman that lost her life because of one she did not identify and prepare for is a problem women have in multiple relationships. This also fits the problem Jodi had with Travis and Travis had with her. I think she was so angry with him that once the attack started, it took a long time for the anger to play out.
I was amused when I heard Violette’s question to JM of “Are you mad at me”. This was her way of letting him know that she would not get offended by his manner of questioning.
We will see what today brings during the cross examination.
@mom3.0
Thank you for your thoughtful response to my post. The abuse from TA I spoke of was from his written words. I don’t think he was physically abusive at all. I was only stating that Blink was correct..this was a domestic partner violent relationship ending in a horrific slaughter. I had viewed it as scorned woman murder.and while thinking that, it didn’t make the pieces fit in a rational way.
This should be a slam dunk murder conviction. How many murders are caught on tape? Add to that, the defendant’s lies on tape, DNA and finally confession. This should be 100% winnable.the only way a conviction isn’t returned is if the jury dislikes the prosecutor as much as the jury did in the Casey Anthony case.
JA is not a one time murderer as most are. She is much more dangerous than that as shown by her behavior AFTER killing TA. Martinez owes not just his family but future victims, to reign in his ego and prosecute this case in a respectful and focused manner.He presents almost as a parody of little man Hitler syndrome. There is too much at stake here for that.
Blink, are you saying that Jodi saw LaViolette’s lecture online while in the jail and that’s how she is aware of an abused Snow White concept?
No, I am speaking of the artwork only.
B
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This is Jodi’s artwork. She doodled it in the courtroom in early January. This indicates to me that she and Alyce LaViolette discussed the abused Snow White concept and Jodi’s interpretation of that conversation was literal, not as some ‘catchy title’ as LaViolette states. In fact LaViolette has been using this Snow White theme for almost ten years if not more. I’m starting to realize she is more shallow in her understanding of relationship abuse than we have been led to believe.
It seems from the lectures I have watched going back many years that Alyce developed ideas about abuse in the seventies and her understanding hasn’t grown much since then. It seems she is willing to come to conclusions about specific relationships while holding tightly to her aged concepts. She is a woman’s rights advocate (nothing wrong with that) and loves Gloria Steinman (nothing wrong with that, either) but it does bring into question whether or not she could readily consider that it is the man who was the victim of mental and emotional abuse, particularly if she is looking into the eyes of a lying conniving female murderer.
Okay I have a question. Early on it was said that Jodi hacked into TA email and facebook accounts. Am I the only one who is wondering if Jodi herself had sent all those emails to other women to make TA look bad and scare off the competition and is now using those emails against him? If she hacked into his email account she could have sent those emails herself. Anyone’s thoughts? Or am I way off base?
Re 5 hour argument, which LaViolette used to illustrate escalating conflict:
These conflicts were played out in text messages with particpants 100 miles away from each other. NOT the same as if two people shared a house or even were in same town, in person.
NEWSFLASH
if anyone is thinking that LaViolette is NOT behaving badly on the stand:
When JM was pursuing his whole thing about Snow White, ALV acted astounded that he would ask if Snow White was waiting for the prince.
ALV said, ” you mean while she was lying there unconscious?”, as though Martinez was an idiot to suggest such a thing.
However, seconds earlier, in response to JM asking if Snow white had a crummy life, ALV said, she was in a cute cottage and SINGING TO THE BIRDS etc.
Guess what.
The song in the Disney Cartoon that ALV was referring to is, ” Some Day My Prince Will Come”. She sings this as she is doing dishes. YES, Snow white WAS waiting for a Prince.
for a little entertainment, her is link to Snow white singing-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0niwn2pOEno
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0niwn2pOEno
whodunit, that was not the order of the JM AVL exchange, you forgot the part about choked unconcious.
B
Ugh, I try to stay away from the JA trial, I get bored to tears and then have moments of anger at JA for not just pleading the eff guilty.
THEN…
Juror #5. Is she an idiot??
***B Says:
My first reaction to Juror #5 sitting in court today is I hope she is comfortable being the face of the derailing of this case.
I find myself limited in my reaction because I legit have no idea how anyone thinks a former sitting juror sitting in court does not warrant a mistrial. Why not just file the habeas now in prep?
B
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Exactly, why are they allowing her in there? That is jumping the shark at it’s best.
And, really…this trial done jumped it awhile back, but REALLY???
If LaViolette is stating the truth that most DV incidents go unreported, how do we know that Travis did not report incidents he suffered at hands of Arias.
If dv goes unreported and if DV can been seen as a gradual escalation, how did Arias get from doing nothing agressive to shooting stabbing slitting throat.
More smart alec comments from LaViolette:
To illustrate that Snow white had gone to worse circumstances after leaving the castle, he said ” well were there any kids her age for Snow White to play with/”
LaViolette said ” I don’t know the ages of the dwarves”, again with the attitude that JM was an idiot.
here is the link to ” SomeDay My Prince will come”.
Most of the dwarves have beards.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0niwn2pOEno
ALV was trying to avoid any conversation about Snow White, stating that JM was mischaracterizing her lecture. She did so with wisecracks , challenges to JM and playing dumb.
ALV claims expertise in the causes and remedies for domestic violence.She testified that people push buttons in relationships and intimates know which buttons to push, in explaining how dv occurs.
She is knowing pushing Martinez’s buttons. She is knowingly provoking him. She is using her time on the stand to provoke the prosecutor with obfuscated responses. Is this truly a peace loving justice seeking witness?
ALV testified she has watched the 48 hours tapes. Sk obviously she knows that Arias is a liar.
It is ALV’s egotism that allows her ( ALV) to believe that Arias is not lying to HER. Arias has lied to police, dectectives, media, lawyers and Travis.What about LaViolette is so special that Arias would not lie to her?
Is it because ALV spent 44 hours with Arias? She didn’t spend 44 hours with Travis, so how does she know for certain what HIS truth is?
ALV testified that Arias was so passive that she ( Arias) didn’t even think of herself as a DV victim UNTIL Arias began talking to ALV.
ALV said this to illustrate how a woman may not even be aware of she is being victimized, and , I believe, to show that she herself (ALV) is a beacon for all downtrodden woman, that she can illuminate domestic abuse where even the victims do not realize it.
Power corrupts, and absolute powers corrupts absolutely. LaViolette is very very interested in power dynamics of relationships, and is determined to have the power on the stand.
Every witness KNOWS that in testifying, you count on your lawyer to come back to yes and no answers that did not tell the whole picture. As an expert witness, ALV knows courtroom protocol very well. ALV is betraying her insecurity by trying to take charge of the prosecutions questions.
Slightly off-topic, but just an observation about Ms. LaViolette ….
From everything I have heard of her testimony, the way she holds herself, the way she speaks about “victims” overall, the fact that she based all of her opinion solely on a known pathological liar and the few snarky little comments she occasionally gets in there regarding men/women’s relationships, my personal impression of her is that she appears to be somewhat of a man-hater.
Honestly … I’m not convinced from everything I have heard from her that if Travis would’ve brought Jodi roses every day, waited on her hand and foot, showered her with praise, support and never-ending love and compassion that Ms. LaViolette still wouldn’t somehow squeak into her statements that he was somehow an abuser. She just does not seem to think very highly of men in general in my opinion. No throwing tomatoes please … just an observation from where I sit and everything I’ve heard. Personally, I am neither impressed nor convinced by her and she has been on the stand way too long.
Amys Sister says:
April 5, 2013 at 11:41 am
(snipped)
This is Jodi’s artwork. She doodled it in the courtroom in early January. This indicates to me that she and Alyce LaViolette discussed the abused Snow White concept and Jodi’s interpretation of that conversation was literal, not as some ‘catchy title’ as LaViolette states. In fact LaViolette has been using this Snow White theme for almost ten years if not more. I’m starting to realize she is more shallow in her understanding of relationship abuse than we have been led to believe.
It seems from the lectures I have watched going back many years that Alyce developed ideas about abuse in the seventies and her understanding hasn’t grown much since then. It seems she is willing to come to conclusions about specific relationships while holding tightly to her aged concepts. She is a woman’s rights advocate (nothing wrong with that) and loves Gloria Steinman (nothing wrong with that, either) but it does bring into question whether or not she could readily consider that it is the man who was the victim of mental and emotional abuse, particularly if she is looking into the eyes of a lying conniving female murderer.
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AMEN, AMEN, AMEN! Does she not appear as if she is somewhat incapable of ever taking the man’s side in anything? I so believe it was actually Travis that was the victim here, in every way, shape and form. Just sayin’ …
Do you think Juror #5 was asked to sit in the court room in order to get a mistrial? Why is it, no one can ask her to beat it? Charlotte, I’ve often wondered if many of those emails weren’t actually originated by Jodi herself. I just don’t understand how this trial has become so one sided. It’s Jodi’s word – period. I still don’t believe a thing she says or has told those on her defense team. For goodness sake, are these people losing sight of what this beech did to TA? He may not have been a saint, definitely played around but he was single and committed to no one.
What I am wondering is if she was not in court ( credit: Jaqueline Beaufort) to attend some meeting/hearing based on her being booted?
Regardless, terrible idea, and if that is not it, and she did so intentionally, all my earlier comments stand.
B
I thought the Judge announced she was in Court as a “member of the public.”
meaning, I can’t bar her & she has that right. I go with Blink comments.
Anyway, can you imagine her in the jury room during deliberations?
Imo, whichever side she’s on, likely
a divisive drama queen, on principle–hers.
ALV ought to go in presuming Jody is lying to her,
and that it’s so ego syntonic, neither Jody nor she
can distinguish the truth without objective corroboration.
LaViolette has based her assessment on Samuels findings, other people interviews, her continuum , aris diary, Travis writings. I fear Martinez will have to go over every single decision ALV made in forming her opinion in order deconstruct her process. Don’t see a short cut, and especially not because she is clearly so biased that she is already jumping at the prosecutor and refusing to give straight answers.
It is really clear that ALV has trouble testifying when the answers are are not spoon fed to her. This is because her real issue is domestic violence in general, not about the murder of Travis Alexander.
My prediction is that ALV will try to avoid any questions that are specifically tied to Alexander and answer in sweeping, hard to dissect generalizations, or say she doesn’t know what Martinez is talking about. YET- she claims she is able to understand Arias fully, and claims the ability the ability to understand Travis fully- and he is dead.
merema- youre welcome and thankyou for adding to your thoughts I totally understand where you are coming from- I see your point
whodunit-I have been reading each and every one of your great posts/and links – I agree with much of what you have written- such as JM will have to address each one of AVLs misinterpretations etc
I look forward to reading more-
Keep up the good work all-
ajmo
whodunit, I believe you are right on and I concur with the LV anti-male persona. Lest we not forget she is being paid to find Travis guilty of abuse (did she say perpetrator aloud in a court of law?). Therefore, it would not behoove her to interview collateral witnesses, family, discern relationships, find additional notes and emails, texts, etc. just in case they bore a positive spin on Travis. So, the absence of that due diligence is conspicuous and will be called out by JM.
I am positive that JW feels LV is their ace in the proverbial Arias hole (couldn’t resist the metaphor). Give JM time, all you doubting Thomases… we see immediately that behind that professional exterior, LV is Arias kool-aid drunk.
I find the whole dog and Jodi show so offensive to reasonable minds. NOthing Arias says can be trusted, ergo, any ASSumption made therefrom cannot be reliable and will not stand.
I think we’ve established that Travis was a playah… so what? He was young, single, handsome and successful. They were neither married, nor co-habitating and did not bear children. Arias could have driven away in a rental vehicle at any time and not ever looked back.
I love where JM left us, to dwell in the thoughts of Arias spinning a web of nothing based on reality. Anxious for Monday. Judge, I object! argumentative, ambiguous, leading, speculative, Disney princesses…
And speaking of Juror #5, she needs to go home and livestream it but she wants to continue her day in the sun. It will be interesting in the end to hear her interview for which she will be paid amply, I’m sure.
The Gift of Fear is one of the number one books written on the power our own intuition gives us. Gavin says humans are the only animals who when fear is sensed,will “”pooh pooh” it . A deer sensing but not seeing a predator will stop eating and then run. Humans, on the other hand, will enter a steel sound proofed elevator alone even though the hairs on the back of their neck are standing up. Our higher developed cognitive thinking skills overrides our deeper danger signals as being foolish.
Travis had this vague intuition as he spoke about wondering if he was involved with an ax murderer, my Space page.Yet, he opened the door at 4AM welcoming in a woman who had twice sliced his tires and then allowed himself to be put in a completely vulnerable position after refusing to take her on the Cancun trip.
You won’t put it down once you begin reading it and it’s one of the few books I keep to reread.
Did he open the door? I am not at all convinced.
B
ATG, I think you mentioned an older man, a sugardaddy, for JA.
Both JA and TA were born in July (9th and 28th) and were only three years apart in age. JA–1980 and TA–1977.
Perhaps it wasn’t you who mentioned this or, possibly, I have your statement wrong, but I thought I’d put it out there before another thought slips away forever!
For what it’s worth, I felt ALV’s response to JM’s questioning almost mirrored Jodi’s. She would act clueless in regards to what he was asking,she was argumentative, would answer questions with questions, basically refused to give one word answers and just like Jodi, she wanted to explain her answer or better yet put her spin on it. She had the “mean old man” routine down pact.
I realize she has been coached or prepared for JM’s Pit Bull like approach however the way she reacted to him just intensified my feelings that she is definately on team “Jodi” and that she is unable to give an “unbiased” professional opinion.
B asks ” did he open the door, I’m not convinced.”
Mamere says: well, he either opened it or failed to lock it or change garage code. Common sense things most people do to protect themselves from harm from anyone.
psst..o/t…leather and cuff necklace?
Oy, the ole gray matter is tapped for today- might need a more direct reference, lol
B
I believe in the opening statement by JM he talked about the trouble that those trying to find a way to get in the house had regarding the code of the garage door lock. They were able to find someone with the code and get in. JM stated that Jodi had the code too. I think it was 0187. She could have used the code or she could have used the doggie door again.
Word Girl
You are correct on the differences in age between Jodi and Travis. I picked that up from someone on CNN that Travis was older by ten years or more. We do know that the man she jointly purchased the house with was older than Jodi by a large number of years.
We have to remember that ALV is an expert hired by the defense. It will be JM’s task to refute any conclusions she made in her testimony. She will try to prevent that by not answering yes or no just as did Jodi in her time on the witness stand.
Blink writes:
whodunit, that was not the order of the JM AVL exchange, you forgot the part about choked unconcious.
B
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Oh yes, I did forget-
and thank God Travis used the excuse of ” being scared he couldn’t make it” to see Arias singing. if he would have insulted her singing, think how abusive THAT would have been…. LavIolette has already stated that telling Arias that a five year old could take better pictures than her was so life threateningly abusive to Arias that she had to shoot him and slit his throat.
Did Arias kill anyone else who called her names?
I mention that because it is paramount to the exchange, and it changes the context of your comment- not to mention it’s accuracy.
I get that we are all about not wanting to see Arias get away with any part of this, that is without question.
But if we could steer away from ad lib and keep the dialog one that is based on direct quotes (that we link) I would like to be productive and not subscribe to a lynch mob mentality.
Not picking on you whodunnit- but I have seen some very researched and intelligent contributions to this case discussion from you, stay in that wheelhouse- lol.
I truly believe that we do not know all the facts of this case- and that bothers me.
One thing I want to remind everyone is this- regardless of what you or I think, the goal here is 12 people arriving at the same conclusion, period. Anything but a guilty verdict is a win for Arias. Make no mistake about it. That is the cold splash in your face reality and I promise you there is no such thing as a slam dunk case when it goes high profile.
That is the focus of BOC staffers. Where are the holes and how do we plug them?
B
B
Mamere, that is a great book. I’ve read it. At one time, Arias mentioned that Travis rarely locked his doors. It seemed as if she was always going around the back, or is that where the doggie door is located? I too am not convinced she was a welcome guest.
That was not Arias, that was Det. Flores who made the “I was told he never locks his doors when he is home” comment.
B
A Texas Grandfather,
I wonder if you might be confusing the ages of Jodi and Travis. At the time she butchered him, Travis was 30 and Arias was 28. A woman he dated, Lisa Andrews, was 8 years younger than him. Maybe she is of whom you are thinking.
Kat
Hey all I just realized with my post at 8:43 that I am getting as smart alecky as LaViolette was on the stand. Ddin’t mean to , I got carried away, its so intense I was looking for comic relief!- and I apologize for wasting any time of anyone who is trying to figure all of this out! Thank you for reading my posts, I really appreciate it, I am doing a lot of thinking about it and really appreciate being able to voice my thoughts to such an intelligent community.
So back to more sobering info-
here is an article written in 2011, which states that Battered Woman syndrome is no longer recognized.. that the psychological community no longer recognizes it , rather they think in terms of Post traumatic Stress disorder, which is listed and can be assessed by testing. http://lawmindscience.wordpress.com/2011/02/18/battered-womens-syndrome-and-self-defense-for-women-who-kill-their-husbands/
(Big thing I am seeing over and over agin is that these women have been married , have kids, are financially dependant and abused physically for years)
Much appreciated
B
Samuels FAILED on the PTSD, which is evidently more weighted than the simpler abuse excuse. So now LaViolette has to bring it home on an OLDER theory from which the psych community has moved on. Someone posted that LaViolette was originally intended for the mitigation part of the trial- If true, it is clear that she was brought on the stand to clean up for Samuels, and it is the defenses last hope.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9168432&postcount=679bout
If this is true – What is ALV thinking?
There are some youtubes that might help break the agony of this trial
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Amk8UNPu-UE
If you’re new to utube, just click on the name of the producer or the number of videos they’ve got going. (as in 11 videos)
@ mamere says:
April 5, 2013 at 7:39 pm
Let’s not forget the doggie shoot. Jodi weasled herself, into TA’s house via Napoleon’s entry.
Everything about this woman tells me she knows nothing about personal space or boundaries. TA’s texts to jodi appear abusive, but she wasn’t getting his message to go away. He had had enough and he was expressing himself in anger. It’s so easy to see those texts as abuse but when you look at the big pic of their relationship, it’s kinda obvious TA had enough of her ‘sociopathy’. Personally, I don’t his responses were abusive. I believe they were defensive….protective, even. She was psychologically messing Travis up. The interrogation tapes w/ Flores prove she is beyond tenacious. She doesn’t back down, ever. Evidence or not, she hears what she wants. She says what she needs and obviously, does what she has to, to get her way.
Arias was by far, the abusive one in this toxic, doomed get together.
I’m saddened that I can no longer believe the jury will do justice by Travis. What should be a slam dunk, is still in the hands of the jurors. We have ZERO idea what evidence they’ll take into consideration and what they’ll dismiss. 12 certain people helped me understand that, a few year ago.
…and please, if JA is going to be compared/referred to as SNOW WHITE, someone gag with a spoon, stat like. Theeee most ridonkulous analogy of an abuse victim. EVER. I mean….she’s animated fiction, or did I watch a totally different movie?
For the love of dopey.
Here’s my thing. After 3+ months of testimony and evidence, NOBODY can say for sure how this June 4th massacre of Travis Alexander happened. My issue with that is there is more than enough physical evidence from the scene to tell that story and for reasons I can only guess about, the state is not.
I personally believe after hearing the questions the jurors have been asking that this jury is going to be thorough, and as you have heard me express concerns about the ‘CSI effect”, analyze forensic evidence and findings. So, to that end, I also believe without reservation that they will conclude there indeed was a struggle between Travis and Jodi.
REGARDLESS OF WHO STARTED WHAT it then becomes a fill in the blanks game and I am so uncomfortable with that, I can’t tell you.
B
Love the Youtubes, wordgirl!
Wordgirl, thxs for posting the videos, they were so funny. I had posted the Jodi Arias: Never Before Seen Testimony video before and I roll everytime I watch it. The best part: Ms. Arias, Do you have any regrets for what you have done? My bangs, My bangs. The girl who plays her in the video needs to be on SNL. Anyways, thxs for the laughs, we needed it!
Blink writes:
That is the focus of BOC staffers. Where are the holes and how do we plug them?
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Biggest hole I see is the lack of blood pattern analysis.
There have been references made to the apearance of the scene as having been cleaned up with water.
But can’t that also be taken into account?
Absolutely, as much of the scene was not diluted. At a minimum, was it all Travis’s blood, or a mixture? Do we really believe that tufts of Jodi’s hair are found mixed in blood on the trim and tile and it was just presented as “her hair” based on DNA analysis? How long was it, were the roots intact- could it be shown it was removed forcefully? Was it removed because she was bent over dragging travis and it stuck to the wall? Nobody ever asked her if she kept her hair in braids all day-
The blood drops leading down the left tile margin of the hallway. Whose blood is it? If that is Travis’s what other evidence tells the story of how it gets deposited that contributes to the chronology of events? If it is Jodi’s what conclusions can be drawn about the chronology of her injury?
The blood evidence in the guest bathroom- whose was it and were any prints found of Jodi’s besides the palm print mixed in her and Travis’s blood?
My own list of specifics as I observed the scene of unanswered questions tops 50. That should never be.
Overall conclusion: the prosecution presented just enough blood evidence to establish their case as charged, and it is limited enough for the defense to maintain it’s defense and hope it is obvious to the jurors looking at the overall scene that there was a struggle.
The defense is not in a position to challenge much, because outside of what it has, smart folks are going to now Jodi is lying about what she remembers. The prosecution fears too much blood evidence and information shows a fierce struggle between these two and leave the jurors plenty of room to think this is more murder 2- which is not an option.
Without knowing exactly what the forensic findings are, which have not been presented ( as is the prosecution’s right) I am really relegated to the pics and my education, training and experience. I can tell you that the blood volume loss in the carpet has to come from wounds bleeding enough to deposit that amount, among other scales we use. There are certain absolutes that can be drawn from the scene that are not in terms of presentation by the prosecution and I am not sure why, unless I answered my own question earlier, lol.
It should be noted that the prosecution failed to show aggravators in every category except F6- which is exactly when the shot last theory emerged.
B
adding to my comment at 3:42 a.m.-
meaning lack of IN DEPTH thorough analysis of blood patterns. Has anyone else been consulted, to delve further and look beyond Medical examiners statements? Has the scene been analyzed by anyone else, by any other means, for the purposes of reconstruction of the attack. Or is it even possible?
It is definitely possible, and if this was not done, I am floored. I was floored that hair and fiber was not more extensive as it is. Shoeprints? Socks on shoes? Where is this work that imo goes a long way to premeditation? If it was preformed, and the prosecution was to use it in it’s case in chief, it is subject to discovery.
B
Juror #5 speaks out…sort of. She doesn’t plan on attending the trial anymore.
http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/story/21895330/2013/04/05/juror-no-5-tells-her-side-of-the-story
Did I miss her saying she would not be attending the trial anymore?
B
@Jeff D
I love the cuff necklace…I would love to have one.
Grr. Clue me in, lol
B
I watched the Day 8 testimony again (the rental car owner) and figured out the “smoke smell” was noted before she ever took the car. It had nothing to do with Jodi, just noted so she wouldn’t be held liable for smoking in the vehicle.
Are you saying that their was testimony on the smoke smell?
B
When this trial started, it looked to me like well,she admitted to doing it,why are they even having a trial and why,oh why, are they televising it. Martinez is so good and Jodi’s lawyers aren’t bad either, considering the facts they have to work with. However, after hearing Samuels, for me 1st degree murder was off the table This was a crime of passion. Now after hearing ALV I’m starting to have reasonable doubts that maybe this was self-defense and,most importantly, after hearing the list of women Travis was involved with(at least 1 of whom was married) there could be a lot of other people who had reason to harm him Even that Ninja story is starting to make sense I know,I’m gullible. Something somewhat similar happened to me years ago when I was the outsider in a town in a different state and someone introduced me to the local charming ‘predator’ Luckily no one got hurt .Some things are better left unsaid This case is so sad. What a waste of such a promising young life(Travis’) and Jodi’s too I’m glad I’m not young anymore -everything is much better now
Jeni- thanks for weighing in- took courage in this room, lol.
Here’s the point- what are the chances out of 18 there are more than one or two juror mirroring Jeni’s sentiment?
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I tried to find her parents’ police interviews in full but was only able to find this mashed up youtube.
What I think is very interesting is Jodi accuses her parents of all the behaviors that she actually exhibits herself.
During her interrogation she tells Det. Flores that her parents probably would not visit her in prison because they never bothered to visit her in the home she owned.
Yet, her parents tell Flores that they weren’t invited to her house because Jodi thought they would snoop through her things.
And, as we all know, Jodi was always snooping around.
Her mother also says something about telling Jodi she needed help because she was delusional about her childhood and how she was raised.
Also, her dad describes Jodi as “verbally abusive” towards her mother.
Another thing that stood out to me is that She told her mother she could prove she wasn’t in Arizon through gas receipts.
I find it so very odd that her mother describes having the best relationship she has ever had with Jodi “after” Travis was murdered.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1B68wSBfOw
She described Jodi as bipolar. That is one heavy statement. I would be surprised by any diagnosis like that, I don’t see it, but it does seem to indicate others have seen serious mood swings and she has given it thought.
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Yes I think this jury is going to be thorough as well. WRT the jury in the CA case, IMHO they did not do their job. I think they rushed the decision because one of the jurors had her vacation scheduled and the trial took longer than expected.
There is so much about this case that I do not know. and from the comments the jury does not have all of the important information either.
Reasonable doubt-What would a reasonable person do? Also what makes sense? I can completely toss out the entire defense just on what makes sense. Based on all of the wounds (especially to his back) Self defense makes NO SENSE whatsoever.
I cannot say what the outcome will be, but I can say that I do have more faith in this jury than the CA jury.
I also think JM will get to the point of his cross with AL. He may drive a different kind of vehicle than many others but he gets there none the less. Personally, I have no problem with his style.
Just throwing this out there- but do we think if there is a hung jury or an acquittal in this case we would still be in support of how the prosecution argued their case in chief and tactics used in cross? Or would we blame the jury like was done in the CA case?
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RE: my # 19 comment
Please don’t think I am faulting Travis for allowing JA in or letting her stay if she broke in.
My comment was speaking to the power our own intuition via fear, gives us.He spoke of exactly this fear on his My Space page. Of course, he as most of us do ignored it. It really can save your life even though you may consciously feel you are just being paranoid,silly, or overly dramatic.
It can and it will and I encourage everyone to hone that skill. It does take practice and a bit of discipline. It has never failed me, I say that emphatically.
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Blink, Nancy Grace has been sporting a necklace that shows a small pair of handcuffs. There was even a spoof between her and Anderson Cooper about a possible theft of the necklace after Anderson admired it so. Just a little lightheartedness here but I really did like the necklace and again I would love to have one.
@Jeff D
I love the cuff necklace…I would love to have one.
Grr. Clue me in, lol
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not that I was watching….but…NG Fri eve..
LOL, well now you can see I do not. I will check it out for sure. Mr. Blink used to call her spatula necklace during the CA trial.
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April 5, 2013 at 10:01 am
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@Mom3.0, good to see you, too. Reading your posts, sometimes I think we are twins separated at birth.
Re: Ms. LaViolette, imo, the most striking thing about her testimony is how she presents everything JA told her as fact.
Btw, most court experts realize how important it is to have pristine boundaries when it comes to their interactions with the individuals they are evaluating. Giving the defendant any gift, even books as these two experts did, can be interpreted as a bias toward the defendant and can be used to impeach that expert.
Well I think it can also be construed as treatment, which as you know is an even bigger boundary issue.
Agreed on the overall assumption that LaViolette is operating on the premise that a chronic liar has miraculously now told her the truth- both on her AND Travis’s behalf. I am hopeful that JM changes his track in cross-examining her, because I believe bringing that to bear is far more important to damage her credibility than berating her over her interpretation of a Disney character. If one perceived her reach in this area as juvenile, JM was seen equally then, imo.
I would have started by asking her of her awareness of the difference in JA stories, and her experience in domestic partner or intimate partner domestic violence whereby one is ambushed (objection yes) and had not seen the other in 8 weeks.
Then followed up with the text where she is basically extorting him over something.
You have to break down the nexus to the crime immediately, everyone already knows Jodi is a liar. The key is to develop the motive which nobody really even knows for sure- through the defense’s own witness.
In essence, how does what she know apply to the victim- as in Travis in this case, without her seeing it coming.
That is diligence and skill, and I respectfully submit I am not seeing a bunch of that in Martinez at all.
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Did I miss her saying she would not be attending the trial anymore?
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At the end of the video, the reporter states that Juror #5 told her she wouldn’t be attending the trial anymore.
Thank you krowdkat, I did.
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More on Juror #5.
http://www.azcentral.com/community/mesa/articles/20130405jodi-arias-murder-trial-juror-surprised-by-media-attention.html
More interviews with Juoror #5. Dismissed over a hallway joke.
http://radaronline.com/2013/04/jodi-arias-dismissed-juror-5-i-did-not-do-anything-wrong-video/
I’d say this is pretty alarming considering the two prosecutors who have been gunned down this year.
Arias prosecutor Juan Martinez targeted in YouTube video
I saw that and for obvious reasons I am not allowing posts to that youtube.
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